[00:01] ':%!xxd' - neato! === imrahil is now known as imrahjl [00:34] hello === imrahjl is now known as imrahil [00:34] some body? [01:00] anyone here [01:01] hi ! [01:01] hello there [01:01] hello [01:01] how's your day [01:01] occasionally, in kubuntu LL, I get a fully black "background" [01:01] good :) [01:01] the background goes over my widgets [01:01] and I can add icons to it [01:02] so it appears to be a "widget" that covers all other widgets [01:02] don't know how to get rid of it though [01:02] it does cover both monitors, but not the 2nd desktop [01:02] probably the widget layer [01:03] could be [01:03] how do I get rid of it? [01:03] no idea [01:03] rebooting works, but I don't want to reboot now [01:03] look at your htop [01:03] pff there's so much things I need to "fix" on this distro [01:03] see if anything strange is going [01:04] what's htop? [01:04] activity [01:04] system activity [01:04] press alt-f2 and then press the wave [01:04] the wave? [01:05] ah I see [01:05] top + ncurses? eeuw [01:05] I just use top, don't see anything really stragne [01:06] oh well sorry, out of ideas [01:06] ok [01:06] thx anyway [01:07] np === debrisrat is now known as DebrisRat [01:07] the alt+F1 and alt+F2 was new for me [01:07] alt+f1 is very useful, sometimes my mouse stops working [01:08] that is, the buttons stop working, cursor still works === root is now known as Guest90440 [01:27] hi [01:27] hi [01:27] does kubuntu support disk encryption using the ubiquity installer? [01:27] no idea, sorry [01:28] k [01:48] patcito: not sure if this answers your question, but when I installed 10.04 from CD the other day it offered to encrypt my home directory [01:49] Alumin, desktop CD? [01:49] yup, just the main one from the Web site [01:52] k, thanks [02:15] Questions from a beginner: What program does Kontact use to sync with Palm Pilots? Can Kontact sync with UbuntuOne like Evolution does? === poet is now known as pansz [02:46] kpilot [02:47] Please forgive me if you answered this Kubuntu beginner's question already -- I lost my connection. How do you sync Kontact with a Palm Pilot and can you sync Kontact w/ UbuntuOne like Evolution does? [02:47] kpilot [02:48] DarthFrog: do you have experience w/ kpilot? Is it still working in Lucid does anyone know? [02:49] I have no idea; I don't have a Palm device. Nor do I use Kontact. :-) [02:49] DarthFrog: ok, thank you. [02:51] also I don't see kpilot in the current repository, so it made me wonder if it was still functional or if there was an alternative? [02:55] nUboon2Age: I just did "apt-cache search kpilot" and it came back with korganizer and a library. So give korganizer a try. [02:55] Oh, the author of kpilot stopped making it. It's not around anymore :( [02:56] DarthFrog: okay i'll check korganizer out, and thanks JontheEchidna for the info. Do you know a current alternative? [02:56] Unfortunately no :( [02:57] maybe gnome-pilot [02:57] I've never had a Palm, so I've never run either kpilot or gnome-pilot [03:03] JontheEchidna: DarthFrog: Good news for me: I checked and found another irc channel (#kpilot) here, and asked and they said there's a couple of people who are starting to develop it again. [03:03] nice === Silfur_Bunny is now known as RabbitMan [03:53] irc://irc.synirc.net/jpopsuki-support === DT[AtWork] is now known as DT` [04:01] has anyone ever used a cellphone as a 3g modem via bluetooth? [04:06] !bluetooth [04:06] For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup [05:00] hi [05:34] why is the upgrade today wants to install plasma-netbook and a bunch of games I don't want on my desktop 10.10? [06:26] I've downloaded Wicd, but it didn't auto-remove knetworkkanager. Both are currently running. How can I safely remove knetwork manager? [06:31] anyone good with AWK? [06:34] ok ok I give up. now what did I do to break my flash? [06:34] and what's it going to take to fix it? [06:35] uninstall gnash? [06:40] I'm having troubles deleting some files that got interrupted during a transfer to my external HDD. Getting "Cannot remove Input/output error" [06:46] I've downloaded Wicd, but it didn't auto-remove knetworkkanager. Both are currently running. How can I safely remove knetwork manager? [06:57] trask_, run fsck or whatever tool it is these days [06:59] !fsck [06:59] fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot [07:31] How do I launch the KDE configuration tool from the command line? [07:35] got a question [07:38] Kuwanger: did u mean 'systemsettings' ? [07:39] directory www has the following permissions drwxrwxr-x 2 root www-data 4096 2010-06-23 18:21 www [07:39] my user is in the www-data group [07:40] but still cannot write to the directory [07:40] If systemsettings is the program, I don't seem to have it on my system. [07:41] Manyfold: Did you login the user after adding the user to the www-data group? [07:42] Kuwanger: no [07:43] Manyfold: That's probably the problem. [07:43] yeah now it works, i just recently loggen in again [07:44] yeah now it works, i just recently logged in again === Cariyla is now known as Gerwin [08:12] hallo [09:25] I've got an odd problem. For some reason, over 100MB of memory just seems used and I can't find the source. Including all resident memory, buffers, and cache doesn't approach the 240MB supposedly used. [09:28] Hello happy friends, I've a little problem and I hope someone could give advice. You know after you've done a kernel update, then you have to re-Activate the NVIDIA drivers through Hardware Drivers. When I open Hardware Drivers however, I get a Jockey crash. How can I re-activate my NVIDIA drivers in the Shell? [09:32] Does anyone know what would cause Cairo Dock to kill out the video playback in Dragon Player? === jtheuer_ is now known as jtheuer [10:22] hi there. can anybody say.... if i use gparted to repartition a drive, wil i lose grub 2. (i think it's associated with the linux distro on the partition to be changed) [10:24] sounds like you will anthony_ [10:25] How do i reinstall grub. I assume i could use a live cd (usb)? [10:25] moetunes: thanks for the reply [10:25] anthony_: if you're using 10.04 kubuntu you need to read up on grub2 [10:26] !grub2 [10:26] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [10:26] moetunes: most recently i installed linux mint, but want to use the kubuntu exclusively, that installed previously on a different partition. [10:26] moetunes: right. i will. thanks. === schmidtm_ is now known as schmidtm [10:33] moetunes: i am reading up. Do you think i could boot to the live disk and just install it via synaptic? does synpatic work in live cd? (maybe not) [10:34] anthony_: it wouldn't save to the hdd from the livecd [10:35] moetunes: thanks again. there is no rush, as i can still use the storage space with mint, and get to it from kubuntu. just want everything set just right. i'll spend some time reading. Thanks again. [10:35] anthony_: you could set up the grub from the os you want to keep using [10:36] moetunes: if i set it up, while there is another one, would it just replace it? also i'm noticing that in synaptic, it shows grub is already installed in this distro... [10:37] moetunes: don't know how to boot to Kubuntu if grub gets disabled [10:38] anthony_: if you aren't going to format a partition grub should still be there to work [10:38] grub is installed to the disk (not a partition) by default [10:39] and reads its' config from /boot [10:39] but the partition it looks at is configurable [10:40] and you can install thing in the LiveCD, and it's not stored to disk but in compressed RAM [10:40] *things [10:40] moetunes: the truth is, i tried to repartition before, couldnt boot, and then reinstalled mint. (all i could think to do to get to the other os's [10:41] tsimpson: thanks. how do i just do grub from the live cd without continuing with install. (i thought i heard that was possible) [10:41] anthony_: you can always reinstall grub from a live cd [10:42] do i just cancel after the partitioning part of the install process? [10:42] the grub installer is already installed on the CD [10:42] just run it manually [10:42] anthony_: no. don't boot the installer option, run the live cd ("try out kubuntu"9 [10:42] yeah. but just alt/f2 grub? [10:43] thanks for all the help, by the way. sorry to be a dummy [10:43] anthony_: run a konsole session. the command is grub-install , but i'm not sure if this suffices if you're in a live cd environment [10:43] * Torch would have to look that up. [10:44] anthony_: i don't do that everyday ;-) [10:44] torch: don't sweat it. i haven't spent the appropriate time looking it up..... i will [10:44] !grub [10:44] grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards. [10:45] see the first link, and we use regular grub rather than grub2 afaik [10:45] good one from the bot! [10:45] tsimpson: it's grub2 if you didn't upgrade from earlier kubuntu versions [10:45] * Torch has grub2 on his new install. [10:46] !info grub2 [10:46] grub2 (source: grub2): GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (dummy package). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.98-1ubuntu6 (lucid), package size 2 kB, installed size 308 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386 hurd-i386 kopensolaris-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64 lpia powerpc sparc mipsel) [10:46] but it's in universe [10:46] so it should not be pre-installed [10:47] tsimpson: no idea about that. i have it. [10:48] then https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover%20Grub%202%20via%20LiveCD would help [10:49] thanks everybody. yeah. grub2- running 10.4, i will try from the tutorial. (though i may just leave mint, as it seems like a big project). but most of all, thanks for the help. later. [10:51] ugh, konversation has gotten a little confusing lately [10:55] that's odd. when i fire up konversation, a channel i have vop access in doesn't seem to recognise me access, yet all works fine in xchat :s [11:03] j800r: create a raw log and show it to the devs on #konversation [11:06] which vpn client would you guys suggest i use in kubuntu 10.04 ? [11:08] Torch, that's if anyone's awake in #konversation lol. seems like a ghost town in there atm [11:11] j800r: well, you know, some people need to make some money from time to time ;-) [11:12] lol, i'm aware [12:01] boringgg [12:01] hahhaha [12:26] Hello [12:35] this channel is always DEAD! === ToxinPowe is now known as ToxinPowe_ === ToxinPowe_ is now known as ToxinPowe__ [13:08] So... My sound is stuck at like the lowest volume. And when I try to use the keyboard shortcut to increase it nothing works (on a laptop). New Linux user here. :/ [13:13] anyone got any thoughts? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:26] BrotherDave: did you check the controls in kmix? [13:27] I don't think so. :/ How to I get to kmix? [13:28] 能发汉语么？ [13:30] Testing.anybody there? just reply a letter.this is first time to use this. [13:32] BrotherDave: it's in the system tray, but hidden per default. click on the small gray triangle-shaped arrow left of the system tray to make it visible (along with the other hidden icons) [13:32] BrotherDave: kmix is the one looking like a loudspeaker. click on it. then click on the mixer button. [13:34] I'm not seeing this small gray triangle thing. [13:34] ziyu: don't talk to people in private without asking first. [13:35] Torch:sorry,just first time to use it.don't know about it too much. [13:36] congratulations Kubuntu team. 10.04 is more polished than openSUSE 11,2. No small feat. [13:38] Still can't find kmix, Torch. :/ [13:39] kubuntu.org claims KOffice 2.2.0 is available in backports, but http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=koffice&searchon=names&suite=lucid-backports§ion=all says otherwise. what gives? [13:40] BrotherDave: do you see the system tray? [13:40] Yes [13:40] BrotherDave: press alt+f2 and type in kmix [13:40] daedaluz: that only works if it's not running [13:40] daedaluz: if it's running and hidden nothing will happen at all [13:40] Yeah, no dice. [13:41] ps -A |grep kmix, see number, kill it, alt+f2 type kmix [13:41] BrotherDave: and there's absolutely no small grayish arrow (looks like a triangle in a circle) to the left of your system tray? [13:42] daedaluz: if kmix isn't buggy it will again start up hidden. [13:42] Only thing to the left on my systems try is "places" "applications" and a little foot icon. [13:42] BrotherDave: er.... [13:42] BrotherDave: you're in gnome. [13:42] Oh... yes lol. [13:42] also, kmix has nothing to do with this problem, check keyboard shortvuts [13:42] s/shortvuts/shortcuts [13:43] * daedaluz smacks BrotherDave. [13:43] get out, now [13:43] :( [13:43] daedaluz: now this is the third time you're giving out really bad advice. [13:43] BrotherDave: either install and run KDE or ask in #ubuntu. [13:44] LjL: apt-cache disagrees with packages.u.c [13:44] 1:2.2.0-0ubuntu1~lucid1 is in lucid-backports [13:44] I have KDE, and everything works fine. I just like the feel on gnome better and was oping I could get it working on here. :/ [13:44] tsimpson: uhm well i'm not on Lucid myself... but this guy in #ubuntu says he can't get it even after enabling backports :| i guess i'll ask him whether he actually ran apt-get update [13:44] It was working all untill I downloaded some crappy audio editor. [13:45] !info koffice lucid-backports [13:45] koffice (source: koffice): KDE Office Suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.2.0-0ubuntu1~lucid1 (lucid-backports), package size 12 kB, installed size 52 kB [13:45] LjL: ^ === keffie_jayx_ is now known as keffie_jayx === radsis is now known as rat === t is now known as Guest35696 === rat is now known as rat87 [13:54] 'Morning folks [13:54] hello world :) [13:55] Hi! It seems that for some reason KDE isn't using PulseAudio. In the sound settings, PA doesn't appear as an option, and knotify4 has the /dev/snd files open, so it's using ALSA. Is there a package that's missing, perhaps? [13:57] as long as you have pulseaudio installed, KDE should detect it [13:57] daleglass, lucid ? [13:57] BluesKaj: yep [13:59] daleglass, I noticed that PA wasn't included when I did a clean install 2 weeks ago , even after updates it didn't come down the pipe .Maybe the devs got the message that pci audio cards benefit more than the onboards so it's become optional in the repos. [14:01] PA is running, though [14:01] Kubuntu never used pulse by default, only if you installed it manually or also have ubuntu/gnome installed [14:01] http://imagebin.ca/view/11zW-8.html [14:02] hmm, that is odd. I think some gnome app might have pulled PA in === DRT[AtWork] is now known as DT` [14:03] !ndiswrapper [14:03] Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [14:06] Do any of you wisemen know how to change Konversation Tray Icon? [14:07] well, right now sound on my laptop is broken, and it seems ALSA and PA are conflicting. So, how would I convince KDE to use PA? [14:10] has anyone ever used a cellphone as a 3g modem via bluetooth? [14:10] daleglass, PA works best with pci cards that have more extaensive options/capabilities than laptop audio , PA is basically redundant on a laptop , providing another layer of unnecessary audio processing . You might consider removing PA becuase it's probly conflicting with alsa. [14:23] hi [14:24] i have a problem with the suspend /resume mode of lucid. whom /how can I tell sth about that? [14:24] i have never gotta suspend/resume to work from 7.10 on up. good luck with that one [14:25] is there a repo app for PCB design? [14:25] !info geda [14:25] geda (source: geda-gaf): GPL EDA -- Electronics design software (metapackage). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.6.1-1 (lucid), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB [14:26] thank you. but it works nearly fine... and worked sometimes in past [14:26] so... if someone can help me... [14:30] jimmy51_: "apt-cache search pcb" certainly shows a few. i suppose also KTechLab might be useful if you want a KDE app. [14:30] hmmm [14:31] i'll check that [14:31] i just installed geda but haven't tried it yet [14:34] ok, i just updated and now my wireless card is GONE [14:39] how do i find out which chipset my wifi card uses? [14:39] if I use suspend mode in lucid, system comes up, just after it seems to sleep. can someone help me? [14:39] or tell me, how I can send a bug report for that? [14:45] DT`, lspci in the terminal , and look for Wireless Network Adapter [14:45] yeah, i was able to find it [14:45] also found out i'm not the only guy who can't get his atheros to work :/ [14:47] hello. i turned on my laptop today and the bluetooth icon on the system tray is grey, and all the context menu options are disabled. this didn't happen before [14:49] rav: do you have a switch to turn bluetooth on or off? [14:49] DT`: it's the same as the wireless switch, and i'm on wifi right now [14:50] odd, normally there are two switches, one for each [14:50] DT , lsmod | grep ath , does it show ath9k ? [14:50] BluesKaj: didn't show me anything [14:50] just went to the next line [14:51] ok ,try ath9k [14:52] same thing [14:53] hello [14:53] ok, then you ptobly need to look for the ath9k driver in your package manager [14:54] where can I get kubuntu lucid altenate installer so I can encryupt partitions? [14:54] on the kubuntu page I don't see anyting off the bat pertaining to this [14:55] BluesKaj: search for ath9k gets me nothing [14:55] and the "regular" cd just allows you to encrypt your home dir [14:55] you can set your partition so that only root can mount them === zelta is now known as Sixclan [15:08] DT`, maybe your network is hidden , if so ,sudo lshw -c Network , should show it . You'll need help from some more knowledgable than me to enable it. [15:10] http://pastebin.org/356344 [15:10] what does that mean "unclaimed" ? === geek is now known as Guest91609 [15:16] DT`, alt + f2, kdesudo kate /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state make sure these are set : NetworkingEnabled=true and WirelessEnabled=true [15:17] BluesKaj: yep, both are set to true [15:19] well i have to leave, guess i'll fight with it some more later [15:27] hi [15:28] can somebody help me with claws mail? If i want to download mails via imap it doesnt do anything, no protocol entry, no crash, no nothing [15:50] hi [15:51] hi [15:51] 안녕하세요 [15:51] nice font [15:52] !kr | jwc44 [15:52] 네 [15:52] jwc44: English, please. [15:52] ok [15:53] !ko [15:53] 도움이 필요하시면 다음 채널에 조인하십시오. /join #ubuntu-ko [15:55] Cairo was in the dock for Kubuntu [16:09] hie frnds [16:09] any1 here ? [16:10] !ot [16:10] #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! [16:11] pici , hieee [16:12] otherday someone here asked me about blank black screen appeared after login, and i got solution for that [16:13] k bye guys , am leaving [16:17] hi all! Im having issues with my audio device. I used not to... I can't read the message that popups up, but it basically get stuck sometimes or skip. is there anywhere I can check for the messages Kde shows? [16:18] trakinas: what version of kubuntu? [16:18] 9.04 [16:18] never had troubles before. is started about a month or so. [16:19] hmm, in 10.04 there is the feature to check the old notifications by clicking the "i" button in the tray, but that's probably not in 9.04 [16:20] yeah. I thought about clicking there, but there is nothing there. [16:20] you could try hitting the "Prt Scr" button on the keyboard really quickly when the error pops up, so that it would take a screenshot [16:21] heheheh. the trouble is how to reproduce it... it shows up once and never again. [16:22] it says something about Amarok not being able to use the audio device. [16:22] though I can play... is it just annoying that it does not play smoothly.... [16:56] can somebody help me with claws mail? If i want to download mails via imap it doesnt do anything, no protocol entry, no crash, no nothing [17:01] hello guys [17:02] can anybody help me with unpacking rar in ark? [17:03] clarnist, use unp , it decompresses anything [17:04] but i wonna to use the gui [17:04] !ark [17:04] Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression [17:06] i have a number of plasmoids running (i can see then 'ticked' when i filter 'running' in the widget adder) and I cant see them on the daskboard nor any workspace nor desktop... whats the best way to kill them off? [17:07] The default network manager is giving me lip. Is there an alternative? [17:10] !wicd [17:10] thanks [17:10] guess it doesn't know or doesn't like me [17:11] !pure kde [17:11] :-) [17:11] seriously, how can something that was working flawless sometime a go stop working properly from day to night? [17:11] !purekde [17:11] If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE » === joseph is now known as Guest13093 === Guest13093 is now known as cannonfodder [17:23] anyone there? [17:25] well [17:25] there are some.. [17:30] hi, what should i do/install/change after upgrading from 9.10 to 10.04? like i've just found out that there is kmozillahelper for firefox integration, search bar in dolphin..... what else? [17:35] for mozilla there is also a oxygen theme [17:35] and plasma notify [17:40] <_2> ? [17:45] <_2> /ban *quassel@* [17:45] Uh. No. [17:47] bendersteed: how do i get them ? (oxygen theme and plasma notify... theme i think mozilla website, the other? is a plugin or a package?) [17:48] it is a plugin, and a theme both from firefox addons site [17:49] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/12196/ [17:50] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59338/ [17:50] there you are both of em and firefox is sweet [17:51] bendersteed: i kinda already have the oxygen theme, but it's not installed, the icons are them though........ anything else i should install ? (for firefox or kubuntu in general) [17:52] well I like softtasks plasmoid for task manager, really customizable. And konversation instead of quassel.. [17:53] i use colibri notifications instead of the native ones. They are like ubuntu notifications [17:55] ok, thank you :) === lyhana8 is now known as yug === yug is now known as lyhana8 [18:09] For some reason, on first startup, my system reports about 49MB free with "free -m" (the right column of the "-/+ buffers/cache:" line). If I restart the system, my system reports about 160MB free with "free -m". It's like the first startup is leaking ~110MB. [18:11] humm, it would be nice to have a detailed memory usage by process, and run a diff on it [18:12] avihay: Like ps axu? [18:13] yhe, I'm just going over the man page [18:16] yes, looks detaild enough, now you just need to reinstall :-> [18:17] * Kuwanger tries the diff idea. [18:17] bbiab === test is now known as Guest50464 [18:26] well? [18:26] Well, now it's not doing it. :/ I guess it's less shutdown/reboot related as random startup related. [18:32] I'll try restarting/shutting down a few more times to see if I can trigger it again. [18:45] hi [18:46] anyone know how to easily extract a iso from multiplae rar archives? .r00 and crap? [18:49] no one? [18:55] is there a "pastebin" for files? [19:04] hola a todos [19:19] avihay: No luck. I guess I'll just have to keep track and hope it happens again (or, well, never happens again, but I doubt that). [19:25] hey guys [19:25] i have some issue [19:25] is there anybody can [19:25] help me [19:25] I have dell E5400 laptop [19:26] i install kubuntu 10.04 on [19:26] everything going smooth [19:26] but the problem with the Audio [19:26] it so noise [19:27] any Idea === ward is now known as wardl === wardl is now known as WardLoockx === WardLoockx is now known as Wardl [20:23] Scherenhaenden: we can talk here if you want :D [20:30] hello, how do I manually restart the upgrade to lucid after having stopped it earlier? [20:30] kupdate-something I think it was? === plassy is now known as plassy_cooking === plassy_cooking is now known as plassy === swdixon is now known as warriorx99 === warriorx99 is now known as warriorX === warriorX is now known as wwx22 [21:00] anyone know anything about shared libs? I run file and it says a particular executable file is linked against Gnu/linux 2.6.9 and it doesn't execute [21:00] I'm assuming I'm missing a package or something [21:03] Just (possibly foolishly) updated to the latest and greatest as suggested by the update manager, and on restart X11 complains and want's to open in Low Graphics mode. Any suggestions? [21:05] You can try backing up you /etc/X11/xorg.conf file by copying to something like xorg.conf.bak. [21:05] 10.04 should be able to run without an xorg.conf now by autodetecting everything [21:07] which works decently well on single monitor machines. I have trouble with it on my dual monitor setup. I have to create an xorg.conf that properly sets up the two displays [21:41] when i logout and try to do remote login to a different box with xdmcp active it doesnt show up. what do i need to do to make kdm see that broadcast === magical_trevsky is now known as magical [21:46] kdm is not seeing xdmcp broadcasts [21:47] whats the name of the kubuntu dev channel? [21:49] Hmm. What is a good tool for drawing things like diagrams? I'd like something that can draw polygons, arcs, triangles, etc, precisely. Like being able to specify the exact angles in a triangle [21:50] Dia is almost like visio [21:51] snarkster: I mean like: http://www.mathsrevision.net/gcse/trig2.gif [21:52] something where I don't have to draw approximately, but can actually say "that angle has to be 60 degrees" [21:52] hmm [21:52] some sort of graphing program. [21:53] nothing pops up when i do a search. [21:53] good luck [22:02] I want to run this script/code everytime I login to my account in Kubuntu: [22:02] for p in kdevplatform kdevelop kdevelop-pg-qt php php-docs quanta; do [22:02] cs $p [22:02] cmakekde [22:02] done; [22:02] oxymoron: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [22:02] kbuildsycoca4 [22:03] lol [22:04] Sorry I meant this bashcode: http://pastebin.com/MJaJy6xk === promulo_ is now known as promulo [22:14] movie [22:28] so...since I upgraded to lucid, my machine can't properly interact with my dvd drives. [22:29] to verify that the problem was ubuntu, I successfully did a clean re-install, and the machine had no difficulty booting from the drives, or installing from cdrom media. [22:29] but I can't read or write cdroms from kde. [22:29] [ 36.409160] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 357048 [22:29] [ 40.028076] sr 2:0:0:0: [sr0] Unhandled sense code [22:29] [ 40.028081] sr 2:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE [22:29] [ 40.028085] sr 2:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Medium Error [current] [22:29] [ 40.028091] sr 2:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: L-EC uncorrectable error [22:29] Apollonovich: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [22:29] [ 40.028096] sr 2:0:0:0: [sr0] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 05 72 b8 00 00 01 00 [22:30] ok, I posted the /var/log/messages output at http://paste.ubuntu.com/454690/ [22:37] the wallet always asking for a pw for wifi connect after login, is getting boring...any fixes out there ? [22:45] ok, seriously? the QC on lucid blows. since I upgraded, things have broken left and right. So I spent half my work day today reinstalling and getting everything set back up. And my original problems are still there, only now the nvidia binary driver is also acting up. this is retarded. yeah, I get it, it's free, but don't put out a release until you test crap a little more. I'm going back to suse. [22:45] * bongfrog is having serious issues with network-manager and it's continuning insistance that it is unmanaged. I have googled for two days now. I though I had it working yesterday (well it was working but then I had to reboot) any tips? [22:56] * bongfrog is running 10.04. Everything was great until a reboot a couple of days ago then boom. I thought that network-manager problems were fix after 9.04. I have changed managed=true in /etc/Networkmanager/nm-system-settings.conf, played with /etc/networking/interfaces GOOGLE has no more solutions that I can find. Help [23:01] what exactly happened to the grub configuration on 10.04? I can't find menu.lst, nor can I figure out how to get to a grub prompt or otherwise configure it. [23:05] Apollonovich: grub2 is very different. Look at the ubuntu wiki for grub2 [23:06] * bongfrog is not sure if grub2 is a ste forward.... [23:06] er step [23:06] !grub2 | Apollonovich [23:06] Apollonovich: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [23:07] bongfrog: yeah, I just noticed the /etc/grub.d directory. it's much more opaque than the old grub. i'm really starting to miss the simplicity of the days of slackware 7. [23:08] I mean, I use ubuntu cause I no longer have time to tinker with everything and just want things to work. It's kind of infuriating when I upgrade and find everything broken. [23:09] (moreover, when things have changed so much since the days when I *did* have time to tinker that I have to relearn everything in order to do so) [23:11] * bongfrog also missed the simpler day of only using certain hardware that was known to work and just a commandline for networking. grin [23:12] hehehehe [23:13] on that topic...i'm finding in the googlesphere that apparently all_generic_ide=1 is a solution to my non-functioning dvd-ram drives -- are you familiar with this option? it makes me leery, since it sounds like the sort of thing that will cripple my SATA drives in order to make the legacy systems work. [23:13] Apollonovich: the wiki has a good description of what to change for dual boot and such. Not all that bad if you forget all you know of grub(1) [23:13] I'm afraid the efforts to develop a new release every 6 mos is misguided. It just creates too may problems for those using kubuntu on the job and at home. [23:14] Apollonovich: sorry bro, I have not had to fight that battle yet. Guess it is not so bad to have an old laptop sometimes. grin [23:15] BluesKaj: agreed. I don't mind as much on my home machine, where bleeding edge is sometimes nice, but I'm really leaning towards just buying a SLES license for the office. [23:16] BluesKaj: I agree especialy since 10.04 is a LTS release and should have a bit more testing and a bit less new features (read as: use 9.10 and just the stable important fixes) [23:16] SLES license ? sorry I'm a home user and retired , so I'm not familiar with that. [23:17] BluesKaj: suse enterprise == well tested commercial linux with KDE desktop. [23:18]