[02:00] hello guys... [02:00] need lil help)) anybody? [02:01] Do give details, to simplify helping. [02:03] i have a 64 satelite laptop [02:03] running maverick with gnome [02:06] the most anoyng thing that i cant play the video format files..avi, divx and other ones...the sound is payed but there is no proper video at all..tryied different players.. [02:06] i found on forums couple ideas of solving the problem but it didnt work [02:11] I don't have much clue on that myself, but a genreic response is: Search LP for the bug, if nonexistant, gather information and report one yourself. Do mention and link to forum resources if they are relevant (since they didn't work, they might probably not be) [02:13] ok...thanks. is there any safe way to downgrade to 10.04 without losing any data and keep all my settings untouched?/ [02:14] No. [02:15] at least data?? [02:18] Of course you can backup home, reinstall lucid and then copy it back, but that's not downgrading in my mind, but reinstalling. [02:18] Or if you tell the instaler to use current /home but not format it.. [02:21] my bad..reinstalling. hope its gonna work..at least solve my problems with maverick [02:49] Anyone notice Empathy's buddy status icons are monochrome now? [03:14] everyone is seeing the bluetooth and power icons show in the indicator applet when they shouldn't right? is there a bug filed for it yet? [03:35] psusi, Ya, I noticed that. [03:35] Also, the indicator applet and the regular icon panel take up whitespace where icons used to be [03:35] so they're wider than needed. [03:36] seems to be a regression in the new release of indicator-applet... I installed the previous one from lucid-proposed and it's fixed... going to file a bug unless one already exists [03:37] psusi, Go ahead. Search for an existing bug first. And if you file one, paste the link here and I'll subscribe to it [03:38] psusi, do you use empathy? [03:38] lukehasnoname, no [03:38] k [05:36] why is the upgrade today wants to install plasma-netbook and a bunch of games I don't want on my desktop 10.10? [05:37] because they're default maybe? [05:37] this is not a netbook [05:37] are you running netbookremix? [05:37] this is a big box [05:47] ktouch?? why?? [07:04] Ltspadmin [07:04] hi [07:04] on thin client machine not getting 1024x768 resolution ubuntu thin client. motherboard is intel 865gvlf and monitor is 500G [08:05] !search eclipse [08:05] Found: code [08:05] good! [08:05] :p [08:45] yo yo yo [08:45] guys, what is the default font for the system menus etc please [08:51] Got it, nm [09:31] me? === napster_ is now known as napster === schmidtm_ is now known as schmidtm [11:37] how can i upgrade to maverick with update-manager? [11:38] "update-manager -d" [11:39] is not working [11:39] it is work but is not appear the option for upgrade [11:58] vistakiller1: try setting /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades from lts to normal [11:59] ok done it [11:59] wierd, was full-upgrade'ing [11:59] anyone knows to use vi? [11:59] it said it didn't want to install a package which was recommended [11:59] I installed it by hand [11:59] and then upgraded again [11:59] and it didn't have any conflicts.. [12:00] what could cause this? [12:00] vistakiller1: [i] to insert [esc] to cancel [:wq] to write and quit, [:q!] to quit without writing, that what you're asking? [12:01] i try this [12:01] i choose esc first [12:01] but when i try to press w and after q [12:01] mind the [:] as well [12:01] xm [12:02] thanks :D [12:02] i dont see it :P [12:02] thanks a lot because i try to edit a shoutcast radio to my media player machine === om26er_ is now known as om26er [12:23] hi...i am getting a flashing white screen on unity interface...how can i solve this??? [12:29] is there a way to solve flashing white screen in unity interface? [12:37] what the heck is this Ubuntu One bar doing in nautilus? [12:37] I don't even have U1 client installed [12:55] 31642 59396K 59764K 0K 100% nautilus [12:55] gotta love e-sata === eli_ is now known as dotblank [13:18] hello guys im using kernel 2.6.35 im getting this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/454421/ === BUGabundo is now known as BUGabundo_fewd [13:22] FATAL: Error inserting ramzswap (/lib/modules/2.6.35-5-generic/kernel/drivers/staging/ramzswap/ramzswap.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:25] why isnt VLC 1.1 in maverick? [13:26] why isnt Nvidia drivers 256 in maverick? [13:26] nvidia 256 should be in maverick soon [13:26] its not there yet [13:26] it better be [13:26] cuz im waiting ,and its not there [13:26] it's in the x-updates ppa if you really need it [13:26] oh [13:26] windows users already have it, but ubuntu not [13:26] ubuntu is always second-class citizens [13:27] is maverick stable enough yet? [13:27] windows always have the latest software [13:27] and ubuntu only have old legacy outdated software [13:27] yeah, maverick is pretty stable (in my VM) [13:27] mooey: that's not the place to discuss this [13:27] If you need it, package and compile it yourself, the option is always there. [13:28] in windows i never need compile anything myself, why in ubuntu you need compile things yourself? always second-class citizen [13:28] vlc 1.1 isn't even in debian unstable yet, and I don't think we package that ourselves [13:28] well you should have some boys that can do packaging so you dont have to rely on the hard work of debian [13:28] mooey: ask nvidia why they don't supply a .deb package? Their installer is overly forceful and can't be cleanly removed [13:28] mooey: I know Philip5 has it in a PPA https://edge.launchpad.net/~philip5/+archive/extra [13:29] arand, thanks [13:29] !appeals > mooey === BUGabundo_fewd is now known as BUGabundo [14:59] Hurm, whereabout are the daily alternate CDs hiding? [15:00] Seems like there are none on cdimage.. [15:01] arand, only see the amd64 and i386 [15:01] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [15:02] Yea, tha's the live one's I'm after the d-i:s [15:02] not for the past two days it seems [15:02] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ Is completely empty :( [15:03] 6/23 and 6/24 [15:05] And 22 is gone, meep, was just about to take btrfs for a spin :( [15:05] get the DVD [15:05] it has alternate [15:09] DVD was rolled the day before btrfs support was added, it's not possible to update d-i before installing is it? [15:14] ahh [15:14] it should be [15:14] I used to did that before I get dailies === BUGabundo is now known as BUGabundo_writin === BUGabundo_writin is now known as BUGabundoWriting [16:33] Hi [17:32] http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2590/capture22.png > im not sure to like this new nautilus/ubuntuOne feature [17:33] I'd like to see a 'stop bugging me' button. [17:52] zniavre: Won't effect me :) I don't use Ubuntu One :) [18:05] ahhh [18:05] I get that too [18:05] I'm FOOO [18:05] I don't even have u1 client [18:10] heh, I have never seen it bug me [18:11] and mine is disabled and never use it [18:11] started today [18:11] hmm [18:13] BUGabundoWriting: oh so the message will come up saying Ubuntu One is disabled [18:13] even for people who aren't using it? [18:13] yeap [18:13] yep [18:13] heh [18:13] I never EVER used it [18:13] Nince one Ubuntu :D [18:13] BUGabundoWriting: same here [18:14] :( [18:14] mind fileing it? [18:14] * sebsebseb might have to update the vm, just to get the error :D [18:14] * patdk-wk boots maverick to test :) [18:14] patdk-wk: for Ubuntu One message? [18:14] ya [18:14] I guess i'll need to install all the updates first though, before getting such a message [18:14] what do you need? [18:15] BUGabundoWriting: What does who need? [18:15] no idea [18:15] * BUGabundoWriting is lost [18:15] heh, 91 packages to upgrade [18:20] BUGabundo-Writing what? ;) [18:20] what what? [18:20] hey guys [18:20] BUGabundo is Writing what? [18:20] ;p [18:20] an android article for our site [18:20] ooh [18:21] So who will do btrfs in the final? :D [18:21] lol [18:21] sebsebseb: will do? well , you can do now itself ;) [18:21] vish: I know it can be done now [18:21] ,but [18:22] butter [18:22] butterest ;p [18:22] * sebsebseb may never put Ubuntu on this computer ever again, don't know yet [18:22] * sebsebseb wonders how long it will be on other for [18:22] anyway [18:22] heh? [18:22] vm testing of 10.10 [18:22] what you using these days? [18:23] so yeah when I do a alpha 2 vm, i'll do btrfs however [18:23] sebsebseb: ah , i forget that you use arch[?] right ? and like trolling Ubuntu people ;p [18:23] vish: no I don't use Arch [18:23] heh, ubuntuone client upgraded :) [18:24] patdk-wk: Mandriva at the moment, not 100% happy with it, but fine for my computer useage like pretty much any Desktop Linux distro nearly. Also the Plymouth boot is great, works properly and all, unlike Plymouth on other computer :( [18:24] be afraid [18:24] VERY afraind [18:24] there it is, ubuntu one ad displayed :) [18:24] propritary driver or not for nivida, and Plymouth is far from perfect on there [18:24] :( [18:24] BUGabundoWriting: what site? [18:24] hmm, I had very bad stuff from mandriva [18:24] Ian_corne: androidpt.com [18:24] * sebsebseb wonders if Plymouth will be better in 10.10 [18:25] sebsebseb: why wondering? are you going to be installing Ubuntu 10.10? ;) [18:25] patdk-wk: I might go PC Linux OS in the next year or so, or try and install Fedora again or something. don't know yet, I mean on this computer [18:25] vish: the other computer will have 10.10 if its good enough [18:25] if not it will stay 10.04 for now [18:26] and 10.04 on there is also set up to look like before :) yes some of us actsaully like the old human clear looks brown theme the one before 9.10 [18:26] with Gnome icons :) [18:26] sebsebseb: oh , well , lets keep this channel for 10.10 discussion , seems more of off-topic to discuss fedora/mandriva there [18:26] and shut down and log out in the system menu, and automatic shut down feature after a minute, once telling it to shut down, and that kind of thing :) [18:26] s/there/here* [18:26] vish: I only mentioned that since I was asked what I was using [18:26] sebsebseb, when I upgraded, it kept my look, and didn't change mine at all :) [18:27] anyway from what I know about 10.10 so far, I don't think it will be for me that much. However thats great that it will have a even better installer, well from what I read anyway. [18:28] patdk-wk: when I upgraded it moved the icons in the human theme to the left in that odd order as well, but then just apply the theme again, and problem solved :D [18:29] never had that issue [18:29] but I wasn't using the human theme, I have long ago customed it [18:29] does https://launchpad.net/builders/ work for you? tried it the last two days but i always get oopses [18:30] patdk-wk: yeah well I don't want to customize much if at all really, I like good defaults, had that no problem before 10.04, and oh I know 10.10 will come with more stuff that I won't like. so more stuff to remove :( [18:30] above no problem, except for how I had to remove the edited fusa, but other then that yeah [18:30] hmm, that ubuntuone bar is annoying, and don't see any way to remove it (but then this is the ubuntu+1 channel hmm) [18:31] actsually I ended up using blubuntu for GDM before 9.10, and then with 9.10 and 10.04 I use KDM instead :) and I guess it will be like that for 10.10 as well, since GDM 2 really does suck in Ubuntu [18:31] patdk-wk: i'll get the updates [18:32] and I guess its just a bug [18:32] and will disappear soon [18:32] when theres a fix [18:32] * patdk-wk isn't fond of gdm, and using mutlible screens really confuses it (expecially if one isn't on or connected) [18:32] it just randomly sometimes displays on my laptops extra screen port, instead of the main laptop screen [18:33] sooooooooooo [18:33] but I do like gnome, and can't stand kde [18:33] anyone reporting the U1 bug? [18:33] I know its gonna be tagged it's a Feature not a bug [18:33] but this is u1 channel :) [18:33] but I DON'T WANT IT THERE [18:33] no [18:33] this is you+1 [18:33] heh [18:33] *u+1 [18:33] #ubuntuone is another thing [18:33] I know, just playing [18:33] and Plymouth in 10.04 is like alpha/beta software, for loads of us with propritary Nivida or ATI cards, but even when I don't hae the propritary Nivida driver installed, its not always how it should be. Shame Plymouth is half baked or whatever in 10.04. Plymouth is awesome in Mandriva, but I never did with the propritary driver. Anyway nice grpahical boot up or hit esc for the verbose/text mode :) [18:34] * sebsebseb hopes Plymouth will be better in 10.10 for people with propritary drivers or otherwise [18:34] sebsebseb, I just uninstalled plymouth from all my machines [18:34] patdk-wk: yes I done that [18:34] I got the text boot, but [18:34] sebsebseb: dude you are soooo anoying :S [18:35] bug, but he wants windows, where it's all done for him :) [18:35] well text boot instead of plymouth theme is ugly, like how Grub 2 is ugly by default as well [18:35] very black [18:35] * arand never had much problem with plymouth... [18:35] since monitors are black [18:36] I could care less about pretty or ugly, I just need to see the messages scroll, without getting wiped off the screen [18:36] and plymouth doing screen clears annoy me when attempting to find issues [18:36] patdk-wk: Desktop Linux as my primary OS since 2004, and yes a bit before first version of Ubuntu. So Windows no thanks! [18:36] And once upon a time I used tom mind not having boot messages, I don't anymore.. [18:37] patdk-wk: yeah when it boots up, it will say stuff on the screen, but it won't be there for long [18:37] arand, I mind, but then, I'm running it on 40 some servers and several workstation [18:37] patdk-wk: without plymouth theme and such [18:38] patdk-wk: Plymouth is in the server edition as well? [18:38] yep [18:38] wow that sucks [18:38] however [18:38] people on the server edition won't be installing propritary Nivida or ATI drivers [18:38] or not normally anyway [18:38] been using linux since 1994 [18:38] using it for a workstation back then wasn't fun [18:39] patdk-wk: yeah back then, people would have to really know what they are doing with it [18:39] most servers have ati video cards built into the motherboard [18:41] patdk-wk: Anyway as much as Canonical would like companies to use the server edition and even pay for support, business is more likely to use, Debian, CentOS, or even Redhat I guess [18:41] one business I do uses redhat [18:41] I would never use centos [18:42] and the customers are hating redhat, way too long between updates [18:42] * sebsebseb thinks 10.10 will be much more of a netbook OS and well yeah Ubuntu Light OS as well, than a desktop or server OS, from what knows about so far [18:42] everyone is mainly complaining that php is way to old to run their websitesw [18:43] I've also had nothing but issues with redhats subscription yum servers or whatever they are [18:43] ehe [18:43] !offtopic ? [18:43] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [18:43] hehe [18:43] bug, don't want the channel to go to waste :) [18:44] did you open a bug? [18:45] !ot [18:45] #ubuntu+1 handles support for the development version of Ubuntu. Please join #ubuntu for all other Ubuntu support. Chat in #ubuntu-offtopic. [19:07] /ignore #jakilinux all -public -actions [19:07] ? [19:14] any ideas on gnome-shell not starting, getting output about mutter-warning API mismatch for libgnome-shell.so http://paste.ubuntu.com/454612/ [20:59] does anyone else have an ubuntu one bar at the top? [20:59] !info SUNBIRD [20:59] Package SUNBIRD does not exist in maverick [20:59] everyone does :) [21:00] lol [21:00] *everyone* that did todays updates [21:00] well, as of 5hours ago :) [21:00] nice they made indicator-network [21:01] patdk-wk: I got it at 7am GMT [21:01] hmm [21:02] zniavre: don't look now, but *they* also broke the one in pavucontrol [21:02] * BUGabundoWriting should have reported that 4 weeks ago [21:02] it said the package was updated 2.5hours before we started complaining today about it :) === BUGabundoWriting is now known as BUGabundo_Legend === BUGabundo_Legend is now known as BUGa_LegendSeker [21:05] then it's new [21:12] indicator-network is using ConnMan right? [21:12] yes [21:13] mh Network Manager is still nicer imo [21:21] DrHalan: some new network-indicator stuff should be building right around now [21:21] but yeah [21:24] * BUGa_LegendSeker files the paman bug [21:25] hey look.... ubuntu-bug has package name autocomplete [21:25] NICE [21:26] yeah IIRC there is a bug on that, doesnt work well or something like that [21:26] [118982.950070] ata6: reset failed (errno=-11), retrying in 4 secs [21:26] erk [21:26] I hate this kernel :( [21:26] gnomefreak: WFM [21:27] BUGa_LegendSeker: i havent tried it and it was per package as i recall [21:28] [119027.142536] ata6: softreset failed (device not ready) [21:28] [119027.142544] ata6: reset failed, giving up [21:28] stupid disk/kernel [21:28] wake up [21:30] did we ever get a UI to change grub splash? [21:32] I guess there are tools out there, but as far as ubuntu goes, if anything it would be hardcoded ;) [21:33] arand: well last i remember i had to do it by hand but since have forgotten how to [21:34] can anyone confirm please https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pavucontrol/+bug/598260 [21:34] Launchpad bug 598260 in pavucontrol (Ubuntu) "pavu control lost icon" [Undecided,New] [21:34] That's just some hacking in /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme though [21:34] jcastro: wow can you tell me when its uploaded? [21:35] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/maverick-changes/2010-June/002301.html [21:35] it's uploaded just not built [21:35] click on the launchpad link [21:36] and it'll show you if it's built for your arch yet [21:36] DrHalan: whoops, that's for sound, wrong indicator, one sec [21:36] gnomefreak: Dunno if http://members.iinet.net/~herman546/p20/GRUB2%20Splashimages.html still applies [21:36] arand: thanks [21:36] DrHalan: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/maverick-changes/2010-June/002301.html [21:36] maybe ubutu tweak [21:37] jcastro: thats again for sound. thanks anyways. didn't realize they changed something about indicator-sound [21:38] but i dont really get this i have so much space in my top bar why do the put everyhing in submenus?... [21:39] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/maverick-changes/2010-June/002288.html [21:39] DrHalan: sorry, paste fail [21:40] cool thanks [21:40] pidgin doesn't communicate with connmanager though... [21:42] arand: found it it is called startupmanager [21:43] i remembered :) [21:53] forced to reboot to fix a pluged disk :( [21:53] the SHAME [21:54] at least it fixed gwibber/desktopchouch [21:57] couldn't hotswap the disk? [21:59] e-sata [22:02] erk [22:02] so now I can't even mount it via CLI? [22:02] what the heck is happening with todays updates? [22:02] they be roaring [22:07] mount: you must specify the filesystem type [22:07] great [22:07] the disk is dieing? [22:08] e-sata should be hotswap [22:08] unless your using a crappy chipset :) [22:09] hell, I hotswap esata and normal sata without issues on my system [22:09] ich10 based [22:09] unplug, plug [22:09] seems fine now [22:09] a$ dmesg | pastebinit http://paste.ubuntu.com/454679/ [22:10] [ 724.427985] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Unhandled error code [22:10] [ 724.427988] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Result: hostbyte=DID_BAD_TARGET driverbyte=DRIVER_OK [22:10] [ 724.427992] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 3f 00 00 08 00 [22:10] [ 724.428001] end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 63 [22:10] a bunch of this [22:12] is it suppost to be 150? or 300? sata [22:12] wonder if the cable or contacts are bad [22:13] could that be it? [22:13] [ 1037.980259] EXT2-fs (sdb1): warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended [22:13] lol [22:13] if the drive supports 300, yes, and there are no jumpers on it [22:14] guess I need to check it [22:14] I don't have any drives that do 150, well, I never did [22:15] I have computers that only do 150, so you have to jump the drive to force it to 150 mode [22:16] ill check for the jumpers when I turn it off [22:17] erk [22:17] can't umount it [22:17] fun [22:17] nvm [22:17] console in one of them [22:17] wdtvdisk contains a file system with errors, check forced. [22:18] I was so happy I got a crapload of fibre disks and shelf to play with [22:18] and they are as slow as scsi [22:18] fibre channel just doesn't impress me at all [22:18] I max this one out [22:18] at around 50MB/s writes [22:18] the laptop is slower at 5400RPMs [22:19] my sata do 130MB/s writes [22:19] at 7200rpm [22:19] but I mainly go for iops [22:19] Maverick kernel kills my IO [22:19] we had such a nice sheduller in lucid [22:19] I could do 55MB/s and still access my laptop [22:19] now, I'm killed by IO [22:19] darn Baricades on ext4 [22:22] switch to btrfs :) [22:22] I'm waiting to try it [22:23] I should try it now [22:23] been meaning to, just haven't gotten to it [22:23] yep [22:23] me too [22:27] jpds: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/ [22:27] Forbidden [22:29] Nice. [22:30] :p [22:32] the normal cd images work [22:32] i don't really get the sense of replaceing the gnome-clock with the indicator clock [22:32] guys http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/20100615/ [22:33] gnomefreak, so old :) [22:33] its forbidden im assuming lack of daily. im assuming it has the same to do with the daily alt installer not being published [22:33] why are you looking for lucid? [22:34] maybe that is why [22:34] why would we be looking for lucid? [22:34] patdk-wk: look at the link you will see meercat at top and lucid images [22:34] ya [22:34] they are all related not being published [22:34] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [22:34] that is what I'm getting [22:35] yeah it works but the alt goes days without being published they come back for a day then they are not published again for a few days [22:36] when the alts are published they are too big IIRC its 704mb [22:36] don't really care how big [22:37] just reember use a dvd to burn it on to :) [22:37] not going to burn it :) [22:37] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ [22:37] would be a complete waste of money :) [22:37] you burn media? [22:38] I boot from grub, or VMs or usb [22:38] * gnomefreak likes a simple setup doul boot cd/dvd for ISOs [22:38] dual [22:39] have have octo-boot usb sticks [22:39] be back i think im going to make this a bit faster since it is late [22:41] BUGabundo: The person to ask about that 403 is cjwatson. [22:44] [2394:7341:2488680446:ERROR:media/audio/linux/alsa_output.cc(818)] Failed querying delay: Input/output error [22:44] gwibber now tries to play a sound!?? [22:44] gwibber is lonely [22:45] hmm, cd is no good [22:45] no btrfs on it [22:46] hmm, I can install deb's on the live cd, nice, never tried that before [22:46] I knew you could on the usb version [22:47]