[01:06] <Viper550> Is there a quote icon in breathe?
[07:24] <thorwil> good morning!
[07:31] <kwwii> thorwil: guten morgen
[07:32]  * thorwil had quite a bit of vuvu in the neighborhood yesterday evening
[07:40] <kwwii> thorwil: I can imagine
[07:41] <thorwil> people are suddenly so musical. enough for a single note and no discernible rhythm :)
[07:41] <kwwii> lol, it's like the samba groups
[07:42] <kwwii> there is always one idiot with a whistle
[07:44] <zniavre> :o)
[07:57] <knome> kwwii, lol :D
[09:09] <Hund> Im having problem with a Murrine theme. Im trying to use a image for the "Active" (?) function, like when someone sends me a message via Pidgin the button should change image, for now the text just gets bold. My panel.rc file: http://pastebin.com/nawLVJZK
[09:12] <zniavre> Hund,  did you try prelight instead of active ?
[09:14] <Hund> zniavre: Im not a experienced user at the coding part. So I have no clue what youre meaning. :P
[09:16] <zniavre> ho sorry, but i do not know if what you want is possible easily
[11:01] <kwwii> Hund: you need to use the pixmap engine if you want to load an image
[11:04] <Hund> kwwii: Okey. Im almoust finished with the theme, the other images are working but I cant get that function to work. The image only appeare (and starts fading as it should) once I hovered my mouse.
[11:04] <kwwii> hrm
[11:04] <kwwii> not sure if you can do what you want with changing code
[11:12] <Hund> kwwii: It works with other themes. But it will do with a color to. I just dont want a bold text, its easy to miss it if you have like 1 billion windows on the panel. :)
[11:12] <vish> Hund: you can specify text style
[11:13] <Hund> vish: The text is fine. I want some kind of background to. pixmap or color doesnt really matter.
[11:14] <vish> oh..
[11:55] <thorwil> holy shit: http://alittlebitweird.com/_blog/The_A_Little_Bit_Weird_Blog/post/Amazing_What_You_Can_Do_With_A_Ball-Point_Pen/
[12:00] <kwwii> wow
[12:00] <knome> nice, but i've seen similar stuff before
[12:00] <knome> :|
[12:00] <knome> after internet, not even internet can amaze you
[12:05] <thorwil> knome: feeling desensitized today? i heard inhaling through the wide end of a vuvuzela helps
[12:05] <knome> eww
[12:06] <knome> i'm actually waiting to out of this city
[12:06] <knome> oops, missed the verb
[12:06] <knome> "get"
[12:15] <thorwil> knome: where to?
[12:16] <kwwii> mallorca!
[12:28] <thorwil> i heard tuvalu is great if you like to swim
[12:39] <knome> thorwil, countryside
[12:41] <thorwil> knome: cool. does that involve some elk riding?
[12:44] <knome> thorwil, no, i'm afraid
[12:44] <thorwil> too bad
[12:45] <knome> thorwil, grilling, sauna, swimming in a lake, boardgames, good company, maybe a beach...
[12:46] <knome> hmm, must not forget beer
[12:46] <thorwil> hmm, yeah, that sounds good
[12:46] <knome> not much, but some
[13:34] <thorwil> kwwii: i just saw ivanka added lilypond to the tools mentioned on the FCShowcase wiki page. isn't that a bit too removed from actually producing the stuff we want?
[13:35] <thorwil> if not, i have someone who would like to see his pet project in there, too. http://www.denemo.org
[13:41] <kwwii> thorwil: yeah, I kinda thought the same thing
[13:41] <kwwii> thorwil: you might mention it to her :-)
[13:43] <thorwil> would, if she was on irc.
[13:45] <kwwii> or read her email :p
[13:45] <thorwil> what, she does do that?
[14:38] <knome> why in the earth has wacomcpl been removed from lucid
[15:14] <thorwil> knome: there's no wacom-tools in lucid, seems to be have been merged in. linuxwacom dropped serial support for the version you need for the newer x-server
[15:14] <thorwil> so i had a lot of fun finding about about that, to then build a patched driver module
[15:30] <knome> lucid fails.
[16:03] <doctormo> kwwii: Hello
[16:06] <kwwii> doctormo: hi
[16:07] <doctormo> kwwii: I figured we better stay in touch about the free culture show case on dA
[16:07] <doctormo> kwwii: Thanks for the affiliation request
[16:08] <kwwii> doctormo: indeed
[16:09] <kwwii> doctormo: it seemed logical :-)
[16:09] <kwwii> doctormo: I'd like to get the word out, going to blog about it and such
[16:09] <doctormo> kwwii: Sorry I missed the UDS session, I think I was in another room.
[16:09] <doctormo> kwwii: Otherwise I would have recommended just setting up a new gallery folder in the existing group.
[16:09] <kwwii> doctormo: no worries, I think we have a good plan of attack, we just need to get the word out
[16:10] <kwwii> doctormo: yeah, I thought about that but we need to be able to end the process, etc
[16:10] <kwwii> maybe in the future that would be a better way to go
[16:10] <doctormo> kwwii: How will you end the process in this instance?
[16:11] <kwwii> doctormo: at some point in time we will cut off submissions and vote on the short-list
[16:11] <kwwii> from which the finalists will be chosen
[16:13] <kwwii> doctormo: essentially, we will run it like we did the flickr photo contest in the past
[16:14] <doctormo> kwwii: I think I can show you how to set that up with just a gallery folder
[16:15] <kwwii> hrm, I'd need to talk to ivanka about changes
[16:15] <kwwii> I am afraid we've already announced it, etc
[16:16] <kwwii> doctormo: the plus point of creating a gallery folder in #ubuntu-artists is that there are already members
[16:16] <kwwii> doctormo: the down-side for Canonical is that we don't own that group
[16:16] <kwwii> although generally speaking that should not be a problem :-)
[16:17] <doctormo> kwwii: OK if you look at the galleries: http://ubuntu-artists.deviantart.com/gallery/
[16:18] <doctormo> kwwii: I've set it up so that all the existing galleries are same, you have to be a member to submit to them and they get approved before going through.
[16:18] <doctormo> But the new gallery folder is different, anyone can submit and they get automatically approved, 4 per day max.
[16:18] <kwwii> hrm, the 4 per day is a limitation
[16:20] <doctormo> kwwii: I can set it to anything, unlimited is also an option
[16:20] <kwwii> doctormo: I think ideally we want to allow as many as possible to anyone
[16:21] <kwwii> myself and others will have to patrol it daily
[16:21] <doctormo> kwwii: That would be 4 per person, per day.
[16:21] <kwwii> that sounds like enough
[16:21] <kwwii> 4 per person is certainly enough, on a per day basis
[16:22] <doctormo> But you could easily duplicate these settings for your new group, or I can make you an admin of the current group.
[16:23] <kwwii> doctormo: but would you give us the rights to also control things?
[16:24] <kwwii> doctormo: I have to cook dinner for my son, he is singing in the chior this evening....will you be online a bit later?
[16:24] <doctormo> kwwii: Of course, you want control rights over just the folder or more than that, it's up to you, I know your accountable and you've signed the CoC right?
[16:24] <kwwii> (and hour or so)
[16:24] <doctormo> OK
[16:24] <kwwii> doctormo: lol, yeah
[16:24] <doctormo> I will be online
[16:24] <kwwii> cool, I will ping you when I am back
[16:24] <kwwii> thanks
[16:53] <ivanka> hi doctormo
[16:53] <ivanka> doctormo: it would be very cool if we could send up the Ubuntu Free Culture Showcase as a gallery in the ubuntu-artwork group
[16:54] <ivanka> doctormo: kwwii mentioned
[17:06] <doctormo> ivanka: Yep, we've got the basic thing there http://ubuntu-artists.deviantart.com/gallery/25667683
[17:10] <ivanka> doctormo: I know it is within the ubuntu-artists group, but is it worth calling it the Ubuntu Free Culture Showcase gallery? For the purposes of talking about it etc?
[17:11] <doctormo> ivanka: Of course, call the gallery what ever you like.
[17:11] <ivanka> doctormo: do I have rights and the like?
[17:11] <doctormo> Anyone can add to it, no one has to be a member of ubuntu-artists first, so it doesn't really matter how it's advertised.
[17:13] <doctormo> ivanka: I've sent out admin invitations to you and kwwii now, you'll be able to manage the gallery and see various admin pages.
[17:14] <ivanka> doctormo: thank you
[17:14] <ivanka> I will update my blog post and wiki page
[17:27] <kwwii> re
[18:37] <thorwil> ivanka: good evening. i saw you added lilypond to the FCShowcase wiki page. i think it is a bit far away from the results that we want. rather for an optional step, not an immediate part of the workflow
[18:38] <ivanka> thorwil: I just added it as a creative tool,  maybe we could make composing a sub-section of audio?
[18:39] <thorwil> ivanka: if you want a long list and not just a few pointer to the most important tools
[18:42] <thorwil> ivanka: also, i have to wonder if the tools should be spun off that page. we already have https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/Software , though that is admittedly a bit hidden
[18:43] <ivanka> thorwil: The tools do make that page rather long
[18:44] <ivanka> thorwil: so I think it would be better to make more of a big deal out of them somewhere else
[18:44] <ivanka> thorwil: but I would like to keep lilypond
[18:44] <thorwil> ivanka: ok, i'll add denemo to your lilypond :)
[18:45] <ivanka> thorwil: ok :-)
[18:47] <thorwil> ivanka: if you don't mind, i will take the tools and merge it them to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/Software. and afterwards look into moving the link in Documentation to the top
[18:48] <ivanka> thorwil: that seems very sensible
[18:50] <ivanka> thorwil: what are your thoughts on how we classify all the audio and video stuff?
[18:51] <thorwil> ivanka: hmm, you'll see my thoughs once i moved stuff ;)
[18:51] <ivanka> thorwil: :-)
[18:51] <ivanka> thorwil: ok - I will leave you to weave magic
[19:10] <coz_> has anyone seen darkmatter recently??
[19:12] <knome> coz_, logs say last said something may 28th
[19:13] <coz_> oooo
[19:13] <coz_> hope he is ok
[19:13] <knome> mmh
[20:54] <doctormo> kwwii: Is this acceptable blog entry: http://doctormo.org/2010/06/24/free-culture-gallery/
[20:55] <kwwii> doctormo: looks perfect
[20:55] <doctormo> Published to the planet
[20:56] <kwwii> excellent, thanks!
[21:01] <doctormo> kwwii: Does this Culture Showcase have a theme?
[21:26] <kwwii> doctormo: no, it can be anything and everything
[21:26] <kwwii> well, within reason that is :p
[21:29] <doctormo> kwwii: It helps to give people a prod with inspiration, so I've done this: http://ubuntu-artists.deviantart.com/blog/33090159/
[21:31] <kwwii> doctormo: sounds good
[22:23] <Viper550> hello