[03:46] <rjg_> Everytime I try to stream a video via xine, it says buffering, gets to 100%. Then, instead of playing the video, it just leaves the xine logo where the video should be. can someone help me?
[03:47] <stlsaint> rjg_: do you have codecs to play the video?
[03:47] <stlsaint> rjg_: whats the video format?
[03:48] <rjg_> No idea for either - how would I find that out? I have trouble with any non-flash embedded video (in a web page).
[03:49] <stlsaint> rjg_: where are you streaming from?
[03:50] <rjg_> Anywhere on the web? Here's a random example: http://web.me.com/lalocreme/Lalo_Creme/More-1.html
[03:53] <stlsaint> rjg_: that was a bad example...are you unable to view youtube videos?
[03:53] <rjg_> no, youtube is fine
[03:53] <rjg_> it's only things that require xine that give me issues
[03:54] <stlsaint> rjg_: well really xine isnt *required* for anything that any other media player can do...can you be a bit more specific?
[03:55] <rjg_> any video (Like the link I just posted - can you explain why it's was a bad example? I'll try to find another one) that's embedded in a web page but does NOT use flash, and instead calls in xine does not play.
[03:57] <stlsaint> hello hotfloppy
[03:57] <zkriesse> hi hotfloppy
[03:57] <zkriesse> hey stlsaint
[03:57] <stlsaint> sup
[03:57] <rjg_> stlsaint: Here's another example of a video that refuses to play: http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/ondemand/newtalent/music/sacha_involved?bgc=C0C0C0&nbram=1&lang=en&bbram=1&ms3=4&ms_javascript=true&bbcws=1&size=16x9
[03:57] <zkriesse> stlsaint: you still like wiki?
[03:57] <hotfloppy> hello guys..
[03:57] <hotfloppy> such a warm welcome in here.. i like :)
[03:58] <stlsaint> rjg_: i am missing plugins for this vid...probably whats wrong with yours
[03:58] <stlsaint> rjg_: what browser are you using?
[03:58] <stlsaint> win_2_linux: sup
[03:58] <rjg_> firefox 3
[03:58] <stlsaint> hotfloppy: first time in this channel
[03:58] <stlsaint> ?
[03:58] <stlsaint> rjg_: you have any plugins installed?
[03:59] <rjg_> stlsaint: nope
[03:59] <zkriesse> hotfloppy: cool
[03:59] <hotfloppy> stlsaint: yeap.. just know that theres beginner channel for ubuntu .. lol
[04:00] <stlsaint> rjg_: can you try downloading opening the file via vlc or movie player
[04:00] <stlsaint> rjg_: im really leaning to codecs/plugins missing
[04:00] <hotfloppy> is someone use my nickname in here ?
[04:00] <stlsaint> hotfloppy: yep yep
[04:00] <rjg_> is there any way I can findout which ones are missing and just install them?
[04:01] <stlsaint> hotfloppy: no, its impossible for two identical nicknames to be used
[04:01] <hotfloppy> stlsaint: yeap.. just curious.. i thought someone else use my nickname and do $hit in here.. lol..
[04:02] <stlsaint> rjg_: i think you need a text/html plugin....again i say THINK...not that i know for 100% sure
[04:03] <rjg_> ok, I might be back later - I'm going to go troll synaptic.
[04:03] <zkriesse> hotfloppy: if you want to keep this nick type /msg nickserv help register
[04:03] <hotfloppy> zkriesse: register already :)
[04:03] <zkriesse> ok cool
[04:04] <hotfloppy> zkriesse: just afraid if someone use 60sec period to do something stupid :P
[04:04] <zkriesse> heh
[04:07] <stlsaint> zkriesse: wiki, yea why whats up?
[04:07] <zkriesse> stlsaint: well if you wanna help out with bt wiki stuff join #ubuntu-beginners-wiki
[04:08] <hotfloppy> guys, by using APTonCD, can i just burn everything i already installed or do i need to redownloading ?
[04:09] <hotfloppy> i got a limited bandwidth usage here.. so, its convenient enough if i can put all the archive into the CD/DVD
[04:10] <stlsaint> yes thats what aptoncd does
[04:11] <stlsaint> take packages and install them onto another system, though i think that you will still need internet connection
[04:11] <hotfloppy> stlsaint: means i need to redownloading all those packages again ?
[04:12] <stlsaint> hotfloppy: correction, you can move those packages *without* internet connection
[04:12] <stlsaint> hotfloppy: http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/
[04:14] <stlsaint> hotfloppy: so yes you can backup your programs and install them again (with dependecies) without internet
[04:15] <hotfloppy> stlsaint: thats great.. im going to check it.. be back later..
[04:18] <stlsaint> cool
[04:22] <hotfloppy> got this error while loading the package on APTonCD -> FATAL -> Failed to fork.
[04:23] <hotfloppy> its seem like APTonCD is not Debian based friendly..
[04:23] <hotfloppy> http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/doc-faq.html
[04:25] <stlsaint> hotfloppy: what distro are you running?
[04:26] <hotfloppy> ubuntu 9.04
[04:31] <_CommandeR_> sweden way = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwlATf9xse4&feature=player_embedded
[04:31] <stlsaint> hotfloppy: did you download the tar or deb?
[04:32] <hotfloppy> stlsaint: apt-get
[04:33] <stlsaint> hotfloppy: either network issue on aptoncd's end or on your end
[04:35] <hotfloppy> stlsaint: theres no workaround ?
[04:36] <stlsaint> hotfloppy: download deb and install via it
[04:38] <hotfloppy> stlsaint: okay..
[04:42] <win_2_linux> how do you perm disable touchpad, i've tried synclient touchpadoff=1 and it works for while but the touchpad re activates again
[04:42] <hotfloppy> stlsaint: nothing in http://sourceforge.net/projects/aptoncd/files/ :(
[04:42] <win_2_linux> i prefer to use usb mouse
[04:43] <stlsaint> win_2_linux: the drivers for the touchpad are found via synaptic...maybe removing them will disable it
[04:43] <stlsaint> win_2_linux: does your touchpad not have a lock button on it?
[04:44] <hotfloppy> win_2_linux: try checking on System > Preferences > Mouse. go to TouchPad tab, untick the Enable Touchpad.
[04:45] <hotfloppy> win_2_linux: i'm currently using ubuntu 9.04.. might be different on the latest version ;)
[04:46] <stlsaint> hotfloppy: http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/download.html try from here
[04:48] <hotfloppy> stlsaint: will point to the same address as i gve
[04:48] <hotfloppy> win_2_linux: is your problem fixed ?
[04:49] <stlsaint> hotfloppy: the server must be down atm
[04:50] <stlsaint> hotfloppy: try at another time
[04:51] <hotfloppy> stlsaint: okay.. thanks
[04:54] <stlsaint> hotfloppy: aptoncd has been up and down for quite some time i believe
[04:56] <hotfloppy> stlsaint: so, theres no aptoncd anymore ?
[05:29] <andrei> Hi. How do I make xchat start by connecting auto and connecting to this channel?
[05:29] <duanedesign> to auto connect to channels..
[05:30] <duanedesign> andrei: its been awhile since i used it but does Ctrl+S will give you the networks list.
[05:33] <duanedesign> In the Server list, select the Network you want to auto-connect to, click Edit and turn ON the "Auto connect to this network at startup" checkbox.
[05:33] <andrei> it does. i check Skip network list
[05:33] <andrei> ?
[05:34] <andrei> Ok
[05:34] <andrei> And for the channel?
[05:35] <andrei> And how do I send whisper?
[05:36] <Lalitha> Hi, How do i get the output of the soundcard to the input of audacity so that i can record it ?
[05:38] <duanedesign> andrei: # Open the Xchat and click the Xchat menu (top left), selecting Network list
[05:38] <duanedesign> # Scroll down to Ubuntu Servers, then click edit. Highlight the auto connect button.
[05:38] <duanedesign> # Click the button to the right of the "favourite channels" box
[05:38] <duanedesign> # Close Xchat, reload and check this works for you
[05:38] <duanedesign> # Click add, then type #ubuntu
[05:39] <duanedesign> hello Lalitha , you might try the # Open the Xchat and click the Xchat menu (top left), selecting Network list
[05:39] <duanedesign> # Scroll down to Ubuntu Servers, then click edit. Highlight the auto connect button.
[05:39] <duanedesign> # Click the button to the right of the "favourite channels" box
[05:39] <duanedesign> sorry all
[05:39] <duanedesign> # Click add, then type #ubuntu
[05:40] <duanedesign> Lalitha: you might try padevchooser
[05:41] <duanedesign> Lalitha: it is in the repositories
[05:41] <duanedesign> after you launch it an applet will appear in your top panel. It has a few different control panels
[05:42] <duanedesign> i think the 'Volume Control' is the one you want
[05:44] <duanedesign> start Audacity and open the Volume Control. you can see what app is using what sound card
[05:45] <duanedesign> Lalitha: ^
[05:45] <duanedesign> good luck, off to read a bit
[05:49] <win_2_linux> brb
[05:56] <Lalitha> duanedesign, thanks.
[06:14] <drew212> what makes ubuntu different from debian?
[06:15] <win_2_linux> good question
[06:16] <win_2_linux> well i'm going  bye
[06:33] <Lalitha> drew212, ubuntu was derived from debian.
[06:34] <Lalitha> drew212, If am correct , Ubuntu is by a great company canonical.. but Debian is just managed by the users themselves/
[06:35] <drew212> Lalitha: yeah, i was more looking for the software differences, but there really isn't much difference
[06:35] <Lalitha> drew212, I too am a beginner. But what i know is, whenever in a site that provides a downlaod for debian, it works on ubuntu too.
[06:38] <Lalitha> coolbhavi, "ChanServ gives voice to coolbhavi" what does this mean ?
[06:39] <drew212> Lalitha: yeah, i try to stick with software packaged by ubuntu though, i help with debugging and it makes things easier.
[06:40] <coolbhavi> Lalitha, hi! it gives the voice privilege to a user of the channel.
[06:40] <Lalitha> coolbhavi, voice priv = able to make replies ??  So i too have that pri ? But why didn't that apepar to me when i logged in xchat
[06:43] <Lalitha> coolbhavi, sorry . But i am new to ubuntu. But still, i use #ubuntu and #ubu beginners. will i be banned for using both ?? :'(
[06:44] <coolbhavi> Lalitha, No! donot worry for discussing this topic head over to #ubuntu-beginners-team
[08:07] <Peter____> Anything going on in here? Or are well just staring at blankness?
[08:07] <ibuclaw> !seen bodhi_zazen
[08:07] <ubot2> I have no seen command
[08:08] <ibuclaw> boo!
[08:08] <ibuclaw> Hi there Peter____ :-)
[08:08] <Peter____> hi :)
[08:10] <Peter____> So I was wondering, is this a good place to ask a question about hibernation--I really have searched the hell out of the Ubuntu forums and tried a ton of things with no resolution
[08:12] <ibuclaw> Peter____, hibernation is a wee bit low-level. And I doubt can receive any sort of resolution in short timeframe... at least, not without causing side effects / other quirks to pop up :-)
[08:14] <ibuclaw> Peter____, you can use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspendHibernateResume
[08:14] <ibuclaw> for reporting a bug on your hardware
[16:03] <UbuntUser> Hi everyone! Could you help me? I've donwloaded a Ubuntu 10.4 cd image but I haven't got any CDs on this moment. Is there any problem if I burn it in a DVD-R? (This may seem silly but I've never done before :S) Thanks!!
[16:03] <hobgoblin> that is fine UbuntUser
[16:04] <Silver_Fox_> No issue with that
[16:05] <duanedesign> 'lo all
[16:05] <Silver_Fox_> Please be aware that the DVD will use a higher burn speed
[16:05] <Silver_Fox_> But should be fine :D
[16:06] <UbuntUser> Ok. I'll do it. Thanks you very much
[16:07] <phillw> i use dvd-r's as i cannot get ubuntu to burn a cd at a slow speed :-\
[16:07] <phillw> they work just fine :-)
[16:07] <Silver_Fox_> Think I am just old school then. Slower the better in my book :)
[16:08] <hobgoblin> yep
[16:08] <duanedesign> Silver_Fox_: yeah that is what i have always followed as a general 'rule of thumb'
[16:09] <Silver_Fox_> UbuntUser,  You could also choose to burn to USB
[16:09] <Silver_Fox_> Though that may not be what you would want :)
[16:51] <dragondon> founds this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318789
[16:51] <dragondon> I'm getting "no space left on device" when I run "sudo cp ~/NewBiosFiles/* /tmp/cdr", anyone got a moment to quick review the steps from that link?
[17:01] <hobgoblin> dragondon: I'd be checking the output of df -h first - if it means nothing pastebin it to paste.ubuntu.com
[17:03] <dragondon> yeah, filled up the temp dir....annoying as this is for a CD-rom based flash....ugh...
[17:04] <hobgoblin> dragondon: try this first sudo apt-get autoclean
[17:04] <hobgoblin> might clear enough room - that said you're obviously close to the limit anyway - and also check the trash
[17:05] <hobgoblin> if still not enough room after that you could clear all of the apt cache
[17:05] <hobgoblin> sudo apt-get clean
[17:06] <dragondon> hobgoblin: thanks, am gonna try just cp'ing the only file I need (1MB).
[17:09] <hobgoblin> dragondon: k - well when you get odd issues on boot it could well be the lasck of space - make a note of the commands, you might need them soon anyway :)
[17:10] <dragondon> hobgoblin: thanks, can't make it any worse that the already corrupt BIOS....
[17:28] <andrei> is forwarding all my ports in my router a security hole?
[17:31] <duanedesign> andrei: yes
[17:31] <duanedesign> andrei: A DMZ or De Militarized Zone is a way of forwarding to one PC all ports
[17:32] <duanedesign> this almost always solves the problem in that the ports needed will be opened to the host computer. The considerable downside of this method is that the "dangerous" ports used by hackers to probe and penetrate insecure computers will be forwarded as well.
[17:32] <andrei> i think i saw that in my router admin page (DMZ) but why is it security hole? aren't my ports closed on my machine?
[17:35] <jmburgess> andrei: if you are running a local firewall on your machine and manage it correctly than you are fine
[17:36] <jmburgess> but most people don't run a local firewall if they have a router, putting that machine in the DMZ is really opening it up to the world
[17:38] <andrei> the reason is this. i work as a it technician in a university and my boss suggested i learn linux - that's why i installed it in my home machine. now the network is administered by a firm and if i want to put a linux machine at my workplace to play around with it a little more... i dont want to call them every time i need a port forwarding. that's the reason for the question. will they do it
[17:41] <iceflatline> Another option would be triggered ports and/or UPnP
[17:42] <andrei> port knocking
[17:42] <andrei> ?
[17:46] <jmburgess> upnp is much less secure than dmzing and then just running your own firewall
[17:46] <jmburgess> You can run your own firewall, you just have to be aware of the responsiblitiy of it
[17:48] <jmburgess> Like if this is just a box you want to play around with, it probably makes sense to use it with the DMZ so you can learn firewalls and such
[17:48] <andrei> But an attacker can only damage that perticular computer right? I - actualy we because i have 2 colleagues that we want to set up a linux server and hook 2 3 computers to it just to play around and learn. We have a room full with stacks of old pc's
[17:48] <jmburgess> I mean especially of there isn't anything really important on it, it shouldn't be too bad if you do get hacked
[17:49] <andrei> That ^^^ yes
[17:49] <andrei> gather experience
[17:49] <jmburgess> it depends on the attack, but generally yes, it is possible to spread the hack to windows PCS though
[17:49] <andrei> boss wants us to take over the network administration
[17:49] <jmburgess> .  but those viruses generally come from opening emails and forwarding them to people
[17:50] <andrei> it's a fine piece of os apart that i spent 3 days to get my network and sound running
[17:51] <jmburgess> ouch,
[17:53] <andrei> Why do i have to import music after every shutdown in rythmbox
[17:55] <jmburgess> ummm you shouldn't have to,are you changing the loc. of the music dir
[17:55] <andrei> ok after i import something then all the other music shows
[17:55] <andrei> when i first fire rythmbox nothing is in
[17:56] <andrei> can i play music in terminal?
[17:57] <holstein> check out mp3blaster :)
[17:58] <holstein> http://mp3blaster.sourceforge.net/#screenshots
[17:59] <holstein> if you install vlc player, you can use cvlc from the command line
[18:00] <holstein> !aplay
[18:00] <ubot2> Factoid 'aplay' not found
[18:00] <holstein> hmmm
[18:03] <andrei> Oh oh...what is the linux telnet program
[18:04] <Puck`> Terminal
[18:05] <andrei> Oh no linux has porn popups too
[18:06] <jmburgess> andrei: but they come from websites, not random viruses
[18:08] <andrei> how do i whisper?
[18:08] <andrei> ar is that red text not whisper
[18:26] <andrei> no shockwave in ubuntu? it does not appear in software center
[18:30] <hobgoblin> nope - no shockwave
[18:31] <andrei> windows +1
[18:32] <hobgoblin> I'm not interested in windows, nor what it has or doesn't have,  in the slightest andrei
[18:33] <holstein> actually
[18:33] <holstein> i think its shockwave -1 :)
[18:34] <holstein> send an email
[18:34] <holstein> let whatever site or service know that you cant use there product from linux
[18:54] <todd81> hello, I am new to linux and have a question about conifiguring it on my laptop
[18:55] <todd81> I have a Vaio VGN-FS740/W and i cannot get the function keys on it to work
[18:56] <todd81> There are buttons for controlling the volume, brightness, etc
[18:56] <todd81> I'm using the latest version of Ubuntu.  I just installed it last night
[19:03] <todd81> I searched on the internet about this issue and I cant find any answers for the latest ubuntu version.  It looks like this involves entering commands into the terminal.  I know nothing about the linux command line
[19:06] <mathay> todd81: I'm using a Vaio VGN-FZ190 and my function keys don't work either. They haven't since 7.10.
[19:07] <mathay> todd81: to be honest, I'm not sure if there is a fix. I'll run a quick search.
[19:07] <todd81> thanks
[19:07] <zkriesse> hello todd81 and howdy mathay
[19:07] <mathay> Hey zkriesse
[19:07] <todd81> hi
[19:10] <todd81> Here is a much easier question to answer.  How much RAM should I have for Ubuntu?  I have 512mb right now and I know I need more.  this laptop can handle upto 2gb.  Would 1gb be enough just for basic internet use?  Is 2gb a waste of money?
[19:11] <zkriesse> i'd go with 2
[19:11] <zkriesse> just because if you decide to do a bit more graphic intensive stuff down the road you can
[19:11] <zkriesse> and it never hurts to have more ram
[19:11]  * zkriesse runs on two
[19:11] <todd81> true
[19:13] <mathay> todd81: I'm having trouble finding anything. I know it has been an issue.
[19:15] <todd81> It sounds like a driver problem.  I'll check back later on and see if there is a solution
[19:15] <mathay> todd81: you could always file a bug report/look for the problem on Launchpad. I've been too lazy to do that. ;[
[19:16] <todd81> how do I do that?
[19:19] <mathay> Well, first go to https://launchpad.net/ and sign up/in.
[19:22] <mathay> And then go here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[19:24] <mathay> Look for the problem you're experiencing and you can subscribe to the bug.
[19:24] <mathay> Actually, this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/6628 is the issue I have.
[19:24] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 6628 in Ubuntu Dapper (and 1 other project) "FN keys not working on vaio VGN-FS215E (heat: 11)" [Medium,Invalid]
[19:25] <mathay> It's no longer invalid, according to Launchpad.
[19:26] <zkriesse> hello win_2_linux
[19:26] <mathay> todd81: I hope I haven't sufficiently confused you, lol.
[19:27] <zkriesse> mathay: well if we don't overwhelm him maybe we can recruit!
[19:27] <mathay> zkriesse: to what??
[19:27] <zkriesse> bt
[19:27] <_CommandeR_> wup wup o/
[19:27] <hobgoblin> ly mathay
[19:28] <mathay> zkriesse: I'm not even on the team. :p
[19:28] <goodtime> hey fellas
[19:28] <hobgoblin> evening
[19:28] <hobgoblin> mathay: more not team than team in this channel :)
[19:29] <mathay> hobgoblin: ah, yes. I follow now. I'm moving slow today, haha
[19:29] <hobgoblin> lol
[19:30] <zkriesse> it's the URUKHAI!!!
[19:30] <hobgoblin> always
[19:30] <zkriesse> hehe
[19:30] <zkriesse> how goes it hobgoblin
[19:30] <win_2_linux> when i put down the lid on my laptop and reopen it I can't bring it back up, no matter what setting I use I researched on the web saw some thread but no one seemed to have a solution at that time?
[19:30] <hobgoblin> slowly winding down to nighttime zkriesse
[19:30] <goodtime> keep it open
[19:30] <zkriesse> win_2_linux: are you suspending it?
[19:31] <zkriesse> hobgoblin: ah
[19:33] <todd81> i was away for a few minutes.  I'm going to look into that.  thanks
[19:37] <win_2_linux> can ubuntu handle tar.bz2  files?
[19:38] <ddecator> yah
[19:38] <hobgoblin> win_2_linux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[19:39] <hobgoblin> win_2_linux: your suspend issue will need more information - laptop model might help, ram, swap and what you've done
[19:47] <win_2_linux> hobgoblin dell d600 not sure about swap used wubi to install it to play with it until i can do a total clean install
[19:47] <zkriesse> Oh Wubi eh?
[19:47] <zkriesse> think that might be an issue mathay ?
[19:48] <win_2_linux> yes, wubi lol
[19:48] <ddecator> wubi never had issues back when i used it (until windows messed it up :/)
[19:49] <win_2_linux> how do you compile from source lol i'm trying to install xchat 2.8.8 since the version in the repository is old an dhas a bug in it
[19:54] <win_2_linux> kind of figured so i guess i'll just have it shutdown then
[20:00] <zkriesse> hello aleixosk
[20:00] <aleixosk> hi guys
[20:01] <aleixosk> I asked here a few weeks ago about samba...  somebody gave me this link:
[20:01] <aleixosk> http://reformedmusings.wordpress.com/2010/05/22/samba-file-sharing-in-ubuntu-lucid-10-04-lts/
[20:03] <aleixosk> and well, my pc is still not visible on my local netwotk :-/
[20:05] <aleixosk> if I go to System -> Preference -> Personal File Sharing and click the top choice “Share public files on network”, only my "Public" folder is shared, nothing else...
[20:06] <win_2_linux> how come ubuntu doesn't recognize ./configure
[20:07] <aleixosk> samba has been giving me headaches since I first installed ubuntu... so a little help would be nice :)
[20:09] <aleixosk> win_2_linux, did you browse to that directory?
[20:12] <win_2_linux> aleixosk  it worked sorry
[20:13] <win_2_linux> brb
[20:17] <win_2_linux> is kde better than gnome
[20:17] <jmburgess> win_2_linux: hahahahaha, not a question anybody except for you can answer
[20:18] <jmburgess> aleixosk: what isn't working with samba?
[20:18] <win_2_linux> jmburgess i suspected you would say that lol
[20:19] <jmburgess> win_2_linux: yeah I have switched back and forth throughout the years.  MY current favorite is gnome but I still checkout KDE once and while to see if I like that
[20:20] <jmburgess> I also run a alot of light weight interfaces so I only really run gnome one machine
[20:21] <aleixosk> win_2_linux, you can also compare yourself and see what you like: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kdegnome
[20:25] <aleixosk> jmburgess, my pc doesn't appear on the local network. Well, I'm sharing nothing and I don't know why....
[20:28] <jmburgess> aleixosk:ok are you able to ping that server from another comp?
[20:37] <aleixosk> jmburgess, yes, I am
[20:38] <win_2_linux> i decided to install it
[20:38] <win_2_linux> to check it out
[20:39] <win_2_linux> anyone know how to get text to speech to work for ventrillo?
[20:50] <jmburgess> aleixosk: and are you sure you are sharing things on the server?
[20:51] <aleixosk> err... yes?
[20:52] <aleixosk> jmburgess, at least two folders are being shared...
[21:07] <duanedesign> win_2_linux: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9832
[21:17] <jmburgess> aleixosk: hmmmm have you tried connecting directly to it from windows
[21:18] <jmburgess> such as \\ipaddress
[21:32] <aleixosk> jmburgess: no I haven't.... Should I try it tomorrow?
[21:32] <aleixosk> today it's too late :P
[21:54] <bobo123> ...it is never to late, to push things to tomorrow ;-)
[22:07] <jmburgess> yeah try that tomorrow
[22:16] <aleixosk> jmburgess, ok, I'll try that.... thanks and until tomorrow
[22:27] <zkriesse> ah hello compiledkernel
[22:28] <zkriesse> welcome suprengr
[22:30] <zkriesse> hello Danawar1
[22:49] <suprengr> zkriesse: hi to you too, can't stay... currently in conversation on other channel
[23:07] <bobo123> hi suprengr and zkriesse. nena problema today, or?  :-)
[23:08] <zkriesse> me? have a problem?
[23:08] <zkriesse> no not at all..i help with problems not ask them
[23:08] <bobo123> ahh
[23:10] <bobo123> if my problem is that there are missing features in nautilus filemanager and would like an recommendation of an IDE to use to modify the source, am I beyond beginner then?
[23:10] <zkriesse> Well that depends upon how you define yourself
[23:11] <zkriesse> We help all levels of 'Buntu knowledge here...not just a beginners level
[23:14] <suprengr> bobo123: sorry for delay... any ideas on restoring Firefox default/ normal system fony in Firefox [lucud]???
[23:14] <suprengr> bobo123: fony = font
[23:15] <zkriesse> suprengr: What did you do?
[23:15] <zkriesse> suprengr: Changed the font on yourself and wanna change it back. Is that it?
[23:18] <suprengr> zkriesse:   I use [& have so done through 3 ububun versions witjh no probs].  I noticed after an update that at sign-on i was also offered a KDE session
[23:18] <zkriesse> Ok what now?
[23:21] <suprengr> zkriesse: ...tried it, only use was command line or Alt-F2 so I[using synaptic]also downloaded KDE basic....  tried it.,,, hated it as much as previous KDE live CDs] and ... absoloutelty removed all traces of KDE
[23:22] <zkriesse> what did you try though
[23:22] <zkriesse> what do you use the com line for?
[23:23] <phillw> suprengr: you can head over to http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome to remove all of kubuntu
[23:24] <bobo123> ok good to know. if you know a nice IDE that isn't dependent on java, I like to hear about it.
[23:24] <suprengr> zkriesse: all was removed  ...for some reason however - Firefox is now using a KDE type font for menu-bar, menus and default page dispaly...  it doesnt work with my current pair of eyes so ik'm
[23:25] <zkriesse> suprengr: did you remove the KDE package from the Software Center?
[23:25] <zkriesse> Because if so you really didn't remove it
[23:25] <bobo123> zkriesse: I suppose that any settings change in firefox you make is easily finded and restored to default in the about:console
[23:25] <suprengr> phillw: will have a look and try... cheers
[23:25] <zkriesse> phillw: I was just gonna post that
[23:25] <suprengr> zkriesse: yeh... guessed that...  ;D
[23:26] <zkriesse> phillw: gotta love the cat
[23:26] <phillw> zkriesse: he's one real cool dude :-)
[23:26] <zkriesse> phillw: I think i've talked to him a couple of times...not sure though
[23:27] <phillw> although, as he's a mod, I suppose I should call mib 'Sir' :p
[23:27] <phillw> /s/mib/him
[23:27] <suprengr> ps i used :   sudo apt-get --purge remove kdelibs4c2a kdelibs5-data && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:27] <zkriesse> suprengr: you need to use the WHOLE command
[23:28] <zkriesse> phillw: I forget his nick
[23:28] <suprengr> zkriesse:   que????
[23:28] <zkriesse> suprengr: because if you don't you'll still have leftover packages
[23:29] <zkriesse> unless there is some you wish to keep
[23:30] <phillw> zkriesse: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=416802
[23:30] <phillw> suprengr: the whole command string is quite long !!
[23:30] <suprengr> ...yek i use kpassx& scribus... but never had prob over 3 distros until i got curious...
[23:32] <suprengr> zkriesse: but they can be reinstalled after... on assumption that before my curiousty killed the cat all was ok#
[23:32] <zkriesse> yes
[23:32] <zkriesse> They can
[23:32] <zkriesse> Don't worry. Just ran that same line myself yesterday
[23:32] <zkriesse> and once before on a different time..no issues either times
[23:33] <suprengr> zkriesse: cheers,,, that givesconfidence
[23:33] <suprengr> zkriesse: thanks
[23:33] <zkriesse> :D
[23:33] <zkriesse> No prob
[23:33] <zkriesse> let me know how it goes my friend
[23:34] <suprengr> will do...
[23:35] <suprengr> signing off now to 1/ sleep & 2/ do the dirty7 on kde ;)
[23:35] <win_2_linux> whats the dirty7
[23:36] <zkriesse> and hello to you win_2_linux
[23:37] <stlsaint> win_2_linux: dirty?
[23:37] <stlsaint> aye, i see now
[23:37] <win_2_linux> yeah someone said they were going to do the dirty7 on kde
[23:38] <zkriesse> I'm assuming that means windows 7
[23:38] <win_2_linux> lol
[23:38] <zkriesse> win_2_linux: Hey just a thought..do you wish to keep your current nick?
[23:38] <stlsaint> zkriesse: on kde??
[23:39] <zkriesse> lol
[23:39] <zkriesse> I give up
[23:39] <win_2_linux> it wasn't me
[23:39] <stlsaint> thats impossible, unless your referring to a virtual machine...other than that he is watching porn!
[23:39] <win_2_linux> zkiesse why do you ask
[23:39] <zkriesse> stlsaint: ooh...hey join -wiki again
[23:39] <zkriesse> win_2_linux: just asking because if you do i'd register it with nickserv
[23:41] <win_2_linux> actually i was thinking of changing it, to something like
[23:41] <totallinuxnoob> LOL
[23:41] <stlsaint> totallinuxnoob: thats actually a pretty common name in various forms!
[23:42] <totallinuxnoob> the one i was going to do is rather totallinuxnoobfromwin
[23:42] <totallinuxnoob> butond't want to be ridiculous
[23:42] <totallinuxnoob> if were if i were going ot go with my old nick from years ago it would be /kendoggie
[23:43] <kendoggie> lol had that nick for a long time
[23:43] <stlsaint> kendoggie: first name basis eh?
[23:43] <kendoggie> lol
[23:43] <kendoggie> or my wow name talios
[23:43] <talios> who stole my wow nick
[23:44] <stlsaint> another wow player who came to linux before you
[23:44] <talios> yeah but its the name of my mage there can't be two talio's
[23:44] <zkriesse> talios: please don't do multiple nick changes in channel
[23:44] <talios> hmm
[23:44] <talios> well i can go on my lock
[23:44] <Ezzaravvri> lol
[23:45] <stlsaint> Ezzaravvri: i ask that you do name chosing in another environment and do not spam this channel (please)
[23:48] <stlsaint> aye, didnt mean to shew the poor lad off
[23:49] <zkriesse> stlsaint: aye
[23:49] <Ezzaravvri> you didn't
[23:50] <stlsaint> seymour: hello
[23:50] <Ezzaravvri> so i can't register a nick until i decide which one or one's i'd prefer lol
[23:50] <stlsaint> zkriesse: yes?
[23:51] <zkriesse> hello sey
[23:51] <zkriesse> stlsaint: I mean aye to your above line about scaring him off
[23:51] <stlsaint> Ezzaravvri: to prevent the IRC gurus from coming down on you yes i would suggest only regsitering the nick you choose and maybe a few as grouping nicks
[23:51] <stlsaint> oh
[23:52] <zkriesse> Ezzaravvri: type /msg nickserv help register when you choose you nick of choice
[23:52] <zkriesse> Ezzaravvri: and if you wish to have a different nick you can group it to your account by changing to that nick and if it's not already in use you can type /msg nickserv group