[04:34] <nigelb> popey: No clue what benjamin is trying to say
[06:55] <ara> morning all
[06:57] <nigelb> good morning ara :)
[06:57] <ara> morning nigelb
[07:00] <dholbach> good morning
[07:05] <ddecator> morning ara and dholbach
[07:05] <ara> morning ddecator, dholbach
[07:05] <dholbach> hey ddecator, hi ara
[07:05] <dholbach> how are you all doing?
[07:05] <ddecator> doing good :), yourself?
[07:06] <nigelb> smashing day today, I just learned my latop has motherboard issues :/
[07:06] <dholbach> slowly waking up and doing a bit of sponsoring
[07:06]  * dholbach hugs nigelb
[07:06] <pleia2> nigelb: are you able to get it fixed?
[07:06] <dholbach> that sucks :/
[07:06] <nigelb> pleia2: they'll give it today to the motherboard guys and then give me an estimate if it can be fixed and how it will cost etc
[07:07] <pleia2> nigelb: good luck!
[07:07] <ddecator> sorry nigelb :(
[07:07] <nigelb> pleia2: thanks, I definitely need lots of luck
[07:07] <nigelb> ddecator: thank you :)
[07:07] <nigelb> dholbach: truly sucks, can't package a thing :/
[07:08] <nigelb> For the Record: HP sucks!
[07:08] <ddecator> nigelb: nah, sometimes if you send them a broken comp, it takes them so long to fix it they send you a new one...then the old one repaired :)
[07:09] <nigelb> mine is out of warranty, so its gone to my company's hardware guys
[07:09] <ddecator> then that's not likely :(
[07:10] <nigelb> yeah, I just hope it fixed and it doesn't cost an arm and a leg to fix
[07:10] <ddecator> or they replace it for you
[08:37] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:38] <dholbach> hey czajkowski
[08:38] <czajkowski> dholbach: morning
[08:43] <czajkowski> dholbach: hows you?
[08:43] <dholbach> good good, thanks
[08:43] <dholbach> how 'bout you?
[08:44] <czajkowski> catching up on work
[08:44] <czajkowski> had to put things to the side for last couple of weeks, studying for jobs and interviews
[08:45] <dholbach> yeah, I can imagine
[09:35] <popey> morning all!
[09:36] <dholbach> hey popey
[09:38] <nigelb> popey: good morning :)
[09:48] <dholbach> james_w: who should I pester for a UDD session for UDW? :-D
[09:49] <nigelb> dholbach: I think the target would be james_w ;)
[09:50] <nigelb> he explains it better than anyone :)
[09:50] <dholbach> nigelb: I thought james_w might have some new friends who could do it too :)
[09:51] <nigelb> aha :)
[10:21] <dpm> good morning all!
[10:21] <dholbach> dpm: hi Alter
[10:21] <dpm> hey :)
[10:21] <dholbach> dpm: denkst Du "Extending the Launchpad API" wäre 'ne gute Idee für UDW?
[10:22] <dholbach> dpm: vielleicht könnten wir Adi und Freunde einspannen :)
[10:22] <dholbach> dpm: hast Du gestern Fußball geguckt? :)
[10:22] <dpm> dholbach, ja, aber UDW ist genau in der LP EPIC Woche (LP Sprint)
[10:23] <dholbach> dpm: eine Stunde sollten die Jungs doch Zeit haben :)
[10:23] <dholbach> da sitzen dann alle in einem Raum und können Tipps geben :)
[10:23] <dpm> dholbach, nee, gestern könnte ich nicht, ich hatte die Hochzeit :)
[10:23] <dholbach> ahhhhhhhhh, stimmt!
[10:23] <dholbach> wie wars?
[10:23] <dpm> dholbach, sehr lustig, war sehr cool
[10:23]  * nigelb looks at channel and goes O_O
[10:23] <dholbach> :-)
[10:24] <dpm> dholbach, sie hat um 20:00 angefangen
[10:24] <dholbach> dpm: das Spiel war auch nicht so besonders - gegen England müssen die Jungs sich mehr anstrengen
[10:24] <czajkowski> dpm: how many languages do you speak.....
[10:24] <dholbach> czajkowski: all of them
[10:24] <dpm> hey nigelb :) Nothing secret here, you can use google translate
[10:25] <nigelb> no wonder he's the translations coordinator
[10:25] <dholbach> dpm picks up the slack when the translation teams are lazy
[10:25] <nigelb> dpm: was there something about a wedding?
[10:25] <dpm> czajkowski, Catalan, Spanish, German, English, no more
[10:25] <dpm> dholbach, lol
[10:25] <dholbach> dpm: it was clear that "Catalan" was first
[10:25] <dholbach> dpm: Terrorist!
[10:25] <dpm> nigelb, yeah, I went to a wedding last night
[10:25] <dpm> hahaha
[10:26] <czajkowski> dpm: is there a massive difference in Catalan and Spanish ?
[10:26] <nigelb> The fun starts when we start talking in a language that google translate can't translate :D
[10:27] <randa_> czajkowski: oh yes
[10:27] <czajkowski> nigelb: google never fails :)
[10:28] <czajkowski> randa_: Aloha ;)
[10:28] <randa_> czajkowski: big difference IMO, I speak Spanish and don't understand a word when people speak in Catalan, I understand Portuguese though, easier :)
[10:28] <czajkowski> ahh ok
[10:28] <czajkowski> thanks
[10:29] <dpm> czajkowski, yeah, a bit. The grammar has many common points, but many words are different and are also pronounced differently. People living outside the Catalan-speaking territories don't understand the language unless they've been living for a while there or see it written (when written one can most of the time figure what the different bits mean)
[10:29] <dholbach> czajkowski: try this in google translate "Dir kënnt natierlech och eng Fro stellen oder an der Sandkaul ronderëmspillen. Dir kënnt Iech natierlech och registréieren." :)
[10:29]  * dholbach should go back to recruiting UDW speakers
[10:30] <czajkowski> oh
[10:30] <czajkowski> never seen that happen
[10:30] <czajkowski> dpm: interesting, thanks
[10:34] <nigelb> czajkowski: wanna bet?
[10:34] <czajkowski> nigelb: dholbach just showed me
[10:34] <dholbach> that was luxembourgish :)
[10:35] <czajkowski> odd
[10:35] <nigelb> I can show 2 of the language I speak which don't translate in google but transliterate with google :)
[10:37] <dholbach> jcastro: nice diagram
[10:39] <dholbach> jcastro: should we talk about adopt-an-upstream at UDW? maybe qense would like to participate as well
[10:40] <nigelb> dholbach: I was thinking of a talk about ubuntu and upstream - something comprehensive
[10:40] <dholbach> nigelb: that'd fit in quite well with adopt-an-upstream
[10:41] <dholbach> giving an overview of how to interact with upstreams, then go into detail and see what kind of best-practices the adopt-an-upstream programme gives
[10:41] <nigelb> In that case +1 :)
[10:56] <dholbach> james_w: you think we'll still be friends after Sunday?
[10:58] <james_w> dholbach: lets hope so :-)
[10:59] <popey> :)
[10:59] <dholbach> :)
[10:59] <popey>  /ignore dholbach
[10:59] <popey> "oops"
[10:59] <dholbach> Don't mention the war!
[10:59] <popey> \o/
[10:59] <popey> o/
[10:59] <popey> "
[10:59] <popey> probably highly inappropriate, I'll stop now
[10:59] <dholbach> popey: you're British, you're excused
[11:00]  * popey hugs dholbach 
[11:00]  * dholbach hugs popey back
[11:00] <dholbach> to each their own very specific humour, eh? :)
[11:03] <popey> apparently so :)
[11:16] <czajkowski> bgrin
[11:28] <paultag> dholbach: I think I understood the luxembourgish. Please tell me I'm not halucinating, and that it's kinda like German?
[11:28] <paultag> otherwise my breakfast had some funny stuff in it
[11:28] <paultag> Oh christ, that was German
[11:31] <dholbach> it was luxemburgish, not german
[11:32] <paultag> Iech == Ich ?
[11:32] <paultag> dholbach: well now I feel special :)
[11:33] <paultag> dholbach: sheeet, den i shold lik type lik da kidz 2day do nd say itz anuther language
[11:36] <dholbach> paultag: Iech = you (accusative, 2nd person plural or 2nd person singular in a formal way)
[11:36] <paultag> wie du?
[11:37] <paultag> Hold on, I need to go to work
[11:37] <dholbach> "Sie", but in accusative
[12:00] <paultag> dholbach: odd, is it like that in German as well?
[12:00] <paultag> I've never heard that
[12:04] <dholbach> paultag: yes, Du is 2nd person singular, informal, like if you know that person well
[12:04] <paultag> Well, yes -- als mann "duzen" kann
[12:04] <dholbach> paultag: Sie is 2nd person plural or 2nd person singular, formal
[12:05] <paultag> dholbach: I mean the word "Iech" -- that is Unique to Luxemburgish ?
[12:05] <dholbach> yes
[12:05] <paultag> Ahha
[12:05] <paultag> dholbach: how do they say "Ich" ?
[12:06] <dholbach> "ech"
[12:06] <paultag> Ahha
[12:07] <paultag> must get confusing?
[12:07] <dholbach> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxemburgische_Sprache#Substantive_und_Pronomina
[12:07] <paultag> Ahha, danke dholbach :)
[12:07] <czajkowski> sounds like yer saying ick for something icky/not nice
[12:07] <dholbach> no, I can't write or speak luxemburgish very well, but I gre up close to it
[12:07] <paultag> czajkowski: NO!!
[12:07] <dholbach> czajkowski: 'ch' is like the 'ch' in "Loch Ness"
[12:07] <paultag> czajkowski: I hear so many of the kids in my German class go eeeshhh
[12:07] <dholbach> not 'k'
[12:07] <paultag> czajkowski: and I want to punch them in the face
[12:08] <dholbach> oh, yeah, it can be 'sh' too
[12:08] <dholbach> it's confusing
[12:08] <czajkowski> paultag: you're a tad violent chap aren't you, I see the irony in this coming from
[12:08]  * dholbach should go back to recruiting UDW speakers
[12:08] <czajkowski> heheh
[12:08] <paultag> czajkowski: No no! I'mm quite non-violent, but when I hear that, all bets are off
[12:08] <czajkowski> dholbach: if you tweet about it later on and prmote UDW cna you use #locoteams to let locos know
[12:08] <czajkowski> the tag is taking off
[12:09] <paultag> Oh yeah, I heard LoCo teams rock
[12:46] <greg-g> jcastro: councils within loco teams?
[13:05] <doctormo> Good morning all
[13:05] <paultag> shalom doctormo
[13:05] <nigelb> doctormo: morning :)
[13:05] <doctormo> swa-dee-paultag-kap
[13:06] <paultag> doctormo: how goes?
[13:06] <doctormo> paultag: I've been asleep for at least 18 hours, all it as well as it could be I guess.
[13:07] <paultag> doctormo: well done :)
[13:10] <doctormo> paultag: Although I'm glad someone _finally_ told me how to spell "whether", I was getting sick of spelling it "weather" and knowing it was wrong.
[13:10] <doctormo> Only took 20 years.
[13:10] <paultag> hahahahaha
[13:28] <nigelb> paultag: poke
[13:28] <paultag> nigelb: howdy :)
[13:28] <nigelb> what did you change in the package recently? 1.0 to 3.0 (quilt) ?
[13:28] <paultag> nigelb: that's not on the master branch
[13:29] <paultag> nigelb: there is a source-3 branch we were working on beside the mainline 1.0
[13:29] <nigelb> err, there are only 2 ways I've hit this error
[13:29] <paultag> nigelb: http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/fluxbox.git;a=summary
[13:30] <nigelb> one was when my source package name was wrong and 2 was something to do with moving to quilt
[13:30] <paultag> humm
[13:30] <paultag> tag@wintermute:~/TrashFolder/fluxbox/debian$ cat source/format
[13:30] <paultag> 1.0
[13:31] <paultag> tag@wintermute:~/TrashFolder/fluxbox/debian$ cat README.source
[13:31] <paultag> This package uses debdiff to apply patches to the fluxbox source.
[13:31] <paultag> yeah, it's not quilt
[13:31] <paultag> something else is going wrong, me thinks
[13:33] <nigelb> paultag: what is the name of the source package?
[13:34] <nigelb> paultag: gah, change fluxbox_1.1.1+dfsg2.orig.tar.bz2 to fluxbox_1.1.1+dfsg1.orig.tar.bz2
[13:35] <paultag> nigelb: Dennis ( A DM on this package ) did that
[13:35] <paultag> nigelb: not sure why -- is that causing the issues?
[13:35] <nigelb> paultag: he also corrected it in changelog
[13:36] <nigelb> but he forgot to correct the source package name
[13:36] <paultag> nigelb: in the control, yes?
[13:36] <paultag> that can't be right
[13:36] <nigelb> when you don't have same name as last entry in changelog, it assumes native
[13:37] <paultag> nigelb: I've never delt with this before -- what do I have to change?
[13:37] <nigelb> paultag: change name of source package to match with name in last changelog entry
[13:37] <paultag> Ohhh!!
[13:37] <paultag> I see it now
[13:37] <paultag> nigelb: thanks :3
[13:38] <nigelb> paultag: We all make same mistakes :)
[13:38] <paultag> nigelb: it was friken' dennis
[13:38] <paultag> nigelb: he does not know how to use git and he is making this package so unstable. I don't know how he is a DM
[13:38] <paultag> but I should have caught that, it's as much my fault as his
[13:39] <paultag> nigelb: mind posting that answer to mentors so that people don't jump on me? :)
[13:39] <nigelb> hehe, ok :)
[13:40] <paultag> nigelb: holy shit, that's another issue that is in there
[13:40] <paultag> nigelb: I'm going to kill dennis
[13:41] <paultag> thanks nigelb :)
[13:42] <nigelb> paultag: I think you already got jumped
[13:42] <paultag> yup
[13:42] <paultag> sure did
[13:42] <nigelb> paultag: about time you kicked your team mate ;)
[13:42] <paultag> nigelb: I'm not happy with him, but what can I say. He is a DM and I'm still just a hacker. He must know a bit more then me anyway
[13:43] <nigelb> paultag: Not really.  He conviced someome that he knows more than others which is a bit different from actually knowing it
[13:43] <paultag> true.
[13:43] <paultag> that's why I'm going to wait :)
[13:44] <paultag> no sense in tainting the system because I don't want to wait another few months
[14:28] <cjohnston> dpm: ping
[14:30] <paultag> nigelb: poke
[14:30] <nigelb> paultag: pong
[14:31] <paultag> nigelb: I'm still having issues. I've tried almost every permutation. I've changed the directory I'm working in, source archive name and control file all to values that I understood as sane, and the dsc is still showing up as native
[14:31] <nigelb> damn
[14:32] <nigelb> paultag: ask in #ubuntu-motu?
[14:32] <nigelb> there are a few DDs around all the time :)
[14:32] <paultag> nigelb: I feel like they would get upset because it's debian :)
[14:32] <paultag> Oh, humm
[14:32] <nigelb> paultag: NO WAY
[14:32] <nigelb> if they do, we'll fix that.  Since the package flows down to ubuntu too
[14:32] <paultag> mm.
[14:33] <nigelb> paultag: or ask on oftc #debian-mentors
[14:33] <nigelb> pabs should be around
[14:34] <paultag> nigelb: I got banned from there
[14:34] <paultag> nigelb: I tried to join but I was not identified
[14:34] <paultag> nigelb: first thing I tried to do
[14:34] <nigelb> paultag: meh, about time you registered on oftc ;)
[14:34] <paultag> nigelb: That was the problem
[14:34] <paultag> nigelb: I am, and I have been
[14:35] <paultag> nigelb: but I was using mibbit
[14:35] <paultag> nigelb: and forgot to identify, and it auto-banned me
[14:35] <paultag> so I emailed the list
[14:37] <nigelb> lol
[15:02] <paultag> nigelb: worked it out
[15:02] <paultag> nigelb: turns out the dir structure is fucked
[15:02] <paultag> nigelb: all resolved now :)
[15:11] <dpm> cjohnston, pong
[15:13] <cjohnston> hey there dpm.. any chance of being able to do the info about translations this week for the community contribute page? ;-)
[15:15] <dpm> cjohnston, yeah, I'll see if I can do it tomorrow morning
[15:16] <cjohnston> awesome.. thanks!
[15:20] <dpm> np :)
[15:23] <jcastro> hey dholbach
[15:23] <jcastro> on PatchesForwarding
[15:23] <jcastro> I think there should be a "where to send patches upstream"
[15:58] <doctormo> jcastro: I'm trying to sort out why the design team have created a deviantArt group for the free culture show case instead of using the existing deviantArt community.
[15:58] <doctormo> Do you know anything about the FCSC?
[15:59] <jcastro> I was at the session
[15:59] <czajkowski> akgraner: any idea why https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Abbreviations?action=show  now redirects to a UWN page?
[15:59] <jcastro> as I was keen to hand it off
[15:59] <jcastro> what do you mean by "existing deviantart community"?
[15:59] <jcastro> was there an ubuntu one already on there?
[16:00] <jcastro> anyway, the guy to ask on that is kwwii, he's running that
[16:00] <czajkowski> jcastro: is kwwii anywhere on irc btw
[16:00] <jcastro> sure
[16:00] <jcastro> he's on german time
[16:00] <czajkowski> ah hr ahead of me so
[16:01] <czajkowski> jcastro: what irc channel is best to find him
[16:01] <czajkowski> ?
[16:01] <vish> czajkowski: #ubuntu-artwork
[16:02] <czajkowski> vish: cheers
[16:02] <jcastro> I am glad vish knew
[16:02] <jcastro> wimer is more my real life drinking buddy at UDSes, I don't really talk to him much on irc
[16:02] <jcastro> which is weird
[16:02] <doctormo> jcastro: http://ubuntu-artists.deviantart.com/ <- I've posted this community to the plannet several times
[16:02] <czajkowski> now we all know, didnt know about that chanel
[16:03] <jcastro> doctormo: you should probably let him know
[16:03] <doctormo> Thanks
[16:03] <vish> doctormo: kwwii knows about that group , he is in it as well iirc
[16:06] <vish> i vaguely recall we had thought about using that deviant art group
[16:06] <vish> at the session
[16:06] <doctormo> vish: Did I miss that session?
[16:07] <vish> doctormo: i think so, i dont recall you in it.  but throwil was the one who mentioned the deviant art group iirc
[16:08] <doctormo> vish: I think I had a gc conflict, sorry about that, should have marked it as required.
[16:08] <czajkowski> surely having two groups and two irc channels is a duplication
[16:12] <vish> czajkowski: two irc channels?  , freeculture  has a channel as well?
[16:13] <czajkowski> vish: #ubuntu-artists and #ubutu-artwork
[16:16] <vish> czajkowski: #ubuntu-artists seems non-existent , but #ubuntu-artwork has been there for a *very* long time ,and has always been listed in the artwork wiki http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork , and in the irc channel list
[16:16] <czajkowski> aye
[16:17] <czajkowski> vish: just noticed as it's on that deviantart page
[16:19] <vish> oh
[16:39] <doctormo> I didn't know there was an #ubuntu-artists irc channel
[16:40] <doctormo> The #ubuntu-artists thing on deviantArt is not a channel, it's just the dA terminology for a group there.
[16:45] <dholbach> jcastro: hey
[16:45] <dholbach> jcastro: so… UDW adopt-an-upstream - what do you think?
[16:45] <jcastro> dholbach: just schedule me wherever you want. :)
[16:46] <dholbach> jcastro: do you think qense will be interested too?
[16:46] <dholbach> jcastro: if qense doesn't I'd be up for it as well
[16:46] <jcastro> yeah, but I don't want to volunteer him without him showing interest
[16:47] <jcastro> schedule me for now and when I see him next I'll ask
[16:47] <jcastro> dholbach: while you're hassling DX
[16:48] <jcastro> oh, nm, I was going to say hassle someone about unity
[16:48] <jcastro> but that's probably better for openweek
[16:48] <dholbach> jcastro: alright - I'll put you in there for now and we an add qense or me later on
[16:48] <dholbach> jcastro: which date and time?
[16:48] <jcastro> looking
[16:49] <jcastro> 1800 Friday!
[16:51]  * dholbach hugs jcastro
[16:51] <dholbach> jcastro: I don't think we made enough noise about adopt-an-upstream yet, so that's going to be good :-)
[16:51] <jcastro> dholbach: I have like 3 queued up blog posts on it
[16:51]  * jcastro is aware he is behind today
[16:52] <dholbach> oh nice
[16:52] <dholbach> hey jono
[17:04] <jcastro> jono: may I punt the UDS content stuff to tomorrow? I need to get these work items out for upstream contacts out
[17:06] <czajkowski> jono: I sent you a mail today introducing you to a guy in ireland doing his thesis on Ubuntu, Ubuntu is very new to him
[17:21] <dholbach> ok my friends - I call it a day
[17:21] <dholbach> I have a BBQ to attend
[17:21]  * dholbach hugs you all
[17:21] <dholbach> if you can chase up develop-y people for develop-y sessions for UDW and add them to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Prep beers will be on me next time we meet :-D
[17:37] <jono> jcastro, no worries, tomorrow is fine
[17:37] <jono> thanks czajkowski
[17:38] <czajkowski> jono: Its kinda weird so much stuff I've taken for granted is a new curve for the 2 guys doing their thesis on Ubuntu/open souce tis rather interesting
[17:38] <jono> hehe
[17:39] <jono> I know what you mean
[17:46] <jcastro> jono: sometime today I'd like a quick chat towards the end o the day
[17:49] <jono> jcastro, np
[18:23] <doctormo> czajkowski: Do you know why he decided to do a thesis on Ubuntu and not on FOSS or one of the other easier subjects?
[18:25] <Technoviking> jcastro: ping
[18:26] <jcastro> Technoviking: yo
[18:27] <Pendulum> doctormo: I would think something on FLOSS and FLOSS communitties would be too broad for a thesis
[18:27] <Technoviking> jcastro: Is there anyone at Canonical that works with vendors to add Ubuntu to a supported version of Linux
[18:28] <Technoviking> I'm starting a massive project and want to do it under Ubuntu, but the vendor supports only RedHat
[18:29] <czajkowski> doctormo: I think Ubuntu is easy
[18:29] <Technoviking> This will be the second big Linux project I wanted to use Ubuntu but may have to use RHEL
[18:29] <Technoviking> bleech
[18:29] <jcastro> Technoviking: I think Boris.
[18:29] <jcastro> Technoviking: I'll PM you his email, he'll at least be able to point you in the right direction
[18:29] <Technoviking> jcastro: thanks dude
[18:29] <czajkowski> doctormo: I did wth others talk on open source I chose Ubuntu, others chose ruby, business in floss, but the 2 guys like Ubuntu and I've said I'll help where I can
[18:30] <czajkowski> doctormo: plus I dont go down the route of GNU/FLOSS conversations with new people as they tend to be put off
[18:30] <doctormo> czajkowski: I don't understand your sentence.
[18:30] <doctormo> Your first one
[18:30] <czajkowski> doctormo: sigh 4 of us gave talks on open source to masters students. covering different aspects, 2 guys are now doing their project on Ubuntu/community.
[18:31] <czajkowski> Technoviking: can you moderate two mails to the forums council please
[18:31] <czajkowski> Technoviking: Thank you, and any update on the Hebrew ?
[18:31] <doctormo> Ah I see, two students who you gave talks to are not doing projects on Ubuntu/community.
[18:31] <doctormo> now*
[18:31] <czajkowski> yes
[18:32] <czajkowski> doctormo: I did blog about this both the giving the talks and the projects the 2 guys are doing
[18:32] <Technoviking> czajkowski: no, Ryan is in severe baby mode.. I think the birth can happen anyday now.
[18:33] <czajkowski> Technoviking: grand, thank you
[18:43] <akgraner> czajkowski, have no idea but looks like it's been that way since early 2009 - ask nhandler
[18:46] <Technoviking> jcastro and jono: "Making Ubuntu Support a Choice for Vendors" maybe a good session for the Community/Server tracks at the next UDS
[18:49] <doctormo> Technoviking: One of my friends here in MA is trying to set up a new business for computer support, focusing mostly on Ubuntu. I'm interested to see where it goes.
[18:50] <Technoviking> doctormo: coolness, I'm wanting vendors that make software for Linux consider other options for "offcially support" than RHEL
[18:51] <akgraner> czajkowski, after looking into it further - looks like it redirects b/c UWN now maintains the glossary of acronyms and abbreviations as we come across new ones in our stories/posts/articles and on the mailing lists - let me know if you need more information - see the history of the page as well :-)
[18:51] <doctormo> Technoviking: I believe that's a matter of costing the testing procedures along with the skills required to do it, against the expected revenue.
[19:57] <jcastro> jono: I am available whenever, just lmk which communication method you would prefer
[19:58] <jono> jcastro, cool, lets talk this afternoon, I have calls most of the day
[19:59] <jcastro> no worries
[21:15] <jcastro> doctormo: great job sorting the deviantart stuff!
[21:16] <doctormo> jcastro: Thanks, got everyone who needs it admin access and some nice blog entries.
[22:08] <jcastro> <-- EOD
[22:09] <doctormo> Bye jcastro
[23:27] <akgraner> who hoo - only 7 slots still open for Developer Week :-)
[23:29]  * akgraner looks through the sessions and notes whose proverbial doors need knocking on :-)