| Sonsum | I'd like to be an author for the ubuntu manual. I've got TEx Live 2009 all installed but when I try and make Ubuntu-Manual-en.pdf it states that I'm missing en.po | 04:36 |
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| Sonsum | Anybody know what I did wrong? | 04:36 |
| Sonsum | Wow. Nevermind. Got it. Ignore the noobishness. | 04:55 |
| thorwil | good morning! | 07:24 |
| ubuntujenkins | morning | 10:01 |
| thorwil | good morning ubuntujenkins | 10:04 |
| ubuntujenkins | wow we are quite today :) | 15:03 |
| nisshh | ubuntujenkins: must have been because i have been out all day and afk :) | 15:09 |
| ubuntujenkins | heh, i am afk alot at the moment as well | 15:09 |
| nisshh | because of the soccer? | 15:10 |
| ubuntujenkins | no just other bits and bobs to do now i am at home | 15:10 |
| nisshh | yea, iv been busy working on my python fu and also working on some projects of mine | 15:12 |
| nisshh | gonna be exciting over the next few months | 15:12 |
| ubuntujenkins | howdy | 21:09 |
| ubuntujenkins | godbyk: / godbyk-sagan ping | 21:10 |
| ubuntujenkins | the channel is a sleep | 21:11 |
| shrini | :-) | 21:22 |
| flan | A single sleep? | 21:24 |
| ubuntujenkins | hello shrini and flan people are awake. | 21:31 |
| shrini | hello ubuntujenkins | 21:31 |
| ChrisWoollard | I just came across the following link. | 21:46 |
| ChrisWoollard | http://ubuntugeek.tradepub.com/free/w_ubun01/ | 21:46 |
| ChrisWoollard | They are harvesting info to get the download. | 21:47 |
| ubuntujenkins | ChrisWoollard: yep I asked them to add a link to our site a couple of days a go | 21:47 |
| ubuntujenkins | wich is not on the bottom of http://www.ubuntugeek.com/download-free-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx-pdf-guide.html | 21:48 |
| ubuntujenkins | *which | 21:48 |
| ChrisWoollard | Yep. It is a bit cheeky | 21:49 |
| ubuntujenkins | I don't know why people feel the need to harvest info for our work. thats two sites that do it now. Shows our work is good i guess | 21:50 |
| godbyk-sagan | Hey, ubuntujenkins. | 21:51 |
| ubuntujenkins | hey you are alive :P | 21:51 |
| ChrisWoollard | Unfortuanatly personal information is valuable | 21:51 |
| ubuntujenkins | godbyk-sagan: what is happening as far as the font for the greek manual | 21:51 |
| ubuntujenkins | ChrisWoollard: yea they ask for address etc | 21:52 |
| godbyk-sagan | what's up with the fonts in the greek manual? | 21:52 |
| ubuntujenkins | godbyk-sagan: linux libertine gives us 3 errors | 21:52 |
| godbyk-sagan | ubuntujenkins: really? I thought linux-libertine had full greek support. do you have the errors handy? | 21:52 |
| ubuntujenkins | yep | 21:52 |
| ubuntujenkins | http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/elerrors numbers 3,4,6 they are the same error | 21:53 |
| godbyk-sagan | oh, and it seems that both sites I've seen distributing our manual are forwarding to the same underlying site. I can only guess they get some referral fees or something out of it. | 21:53 |
| ChrisWoollard | :( | 21:54 |
| ubuntujenkins | i can't compile here as I get japaniese letters in the evince index pane | 21:54 |
| ubuntujenkins | also kevin can you mail me the ubuntu-manual-el.tex file you are using. as are using one that c7p and i have is not the same as the one for builds.ubuntu-manual.org | 21:56 |
| godbyk-sagan | ubuntujenkins: I think #3 may be okay as long as the Greek looks good (especially the placement of accents, etc.). | 21:56 |
| godbyk-sagan | ubuntujenkins: #1 can be safely ignored. We're not using a bibliography, so no worries. | 21:57 |
| godbyk-sagan | #2 we should attend to and make sure the cross-references are correct. | 21:57 |
| ubuntujenkins | how is that done just build it again? | 21:57 |
| godbyk-sagan | #4 is telling us that there aren't any old-style numbers in italic. I'm not sure where this occurs, so I'll have to look into it. If it's printing the regular lining figures instead, it should be okay. | 21:58 |
| godbyk-sagan | #5 can be ignored. it's just latex being snarky. | 21:58 |
| ubuntujenkins | ok cool, we are very close with greek | 21:58 |
| godbyk-sagan | #6 is the same as #4. | 21:58 |
| * ubuntujenkins nods | 21:59 | |
| godbyk-sagan | and #7 can probably be ignored. | 21:59 |
| * ubuntujenkins nods again | 21:59 | |
| ubuntujenkins | any thoughts on my japanies letters in evince | 22:00 |
| godbyk-sagan | Japanese letters in evince? We're working on a Japanese translation already now? | 22:00 |
| ubuntujenkins | no i get them in the index for what ever language i compile for | 22:01 |
| ubuntujenkins | not sure about english | 22:01 |
| godbyk-sagan | really? | 22:01 |
| godbyk-sagan | that's quite strange. | 22:01 |
| godbyk-sagan | let me give it a shot here. | 22:02 |
| godbyk-sagan | (though I don't know if everything's setup on my laptop or not. guess we'll find out.) | 22:02 |
| ubuntujenkins | I am using the packages, so I don't know what it is. I need to solve it as it is a bug in them effectivley | 22:02 |
| godbyk-sagan | running bzr pull now. could take a while. (my parents' internet connection is slow.) | 22:03 |
| godbyk-sagan | ubuntujenkins: are the indices on the builds.ubuntu-manual.org site okay? | 22:03 |
| ubuntujenkins | yep | 22:04 |
| godbyk-sagan | if so, it may be a problem with your packaged xindy compared to my tug2009 xindy. | 22:04 |
| godbyk-sagan | (didn't you have to jump through some hoops on the xindy stuff. wasn't xindy not packaged originally?) | 22:04 |
| ubuntujenkins | I am just trying an older version of xindy it is in debian | 22:05 |
| ubuntujenkins | c7p: hello | 22:05 |
| godbyk-sagan | okay. | 22:05 |
| c7p | hey | 22:05 |
| c7p | oh godbyk is home :d | 22:05 |
| godbyk-sagan | c7p: only for a little bit. | 22:05 |
| c7p | nice :P | 22:05 |
| godbyk-sagan | I've been swamped at work the past week or two trying to get people up to speed on things before I take off. | 22:05 |
| godbyk-sagan | I'll be leaving tomorrow evening for about a week. | 22:06 |
| c7p | i know :) | 22:06 |
| godbyk-sagan | (Hopefully, I'll return with lots of fun TeX-related things we can make use of.) | 22:06 |
| ubuntujenkins | godbyk-sagan: thanks for fitting us in your secdule | 22:06 |
| godbyk-sagan | ubuntujenkins: lol. no problem. | 22:06 |
| c7p | how much time do you have now? | 22:06 |
| godbyk-sagan | I just got back from running errands today. I'm hanging out at my parents house for a couple days. | 22:07 |
| godbyk-sagan | (So I'm away from work where they can only harass me via IM and email.) | 22:07 |
| c7p | :P | 22:07 |
| godbyk-sagan | I should be around for a few hours (coming and going a little bit). | 22:07 |
| c7p | do you want to chill out or we can arrange some things? | 22:08 |
| godbyk-sagan | I can try to help with some things, but I'm on my laptop, so I'm somewhat limited in what I can do. | 22:09 |
| godbyk-sagan | (I don't think I have everything set up here.) | 22:09 |
| ubuntujenkins | hmm an older version of xindy no help | 22:09 |
| c7p | ok | 22:09 |
| godbyk-sagan | ubuntujenkins: here''s the version of xindy I'm running (on my laptop, at least): | 22:10 |
| godbyk-sagan | $ xindy --version | 22:10 |
| godbyk-sagan | xindy release: unknown | 22:10 |
| godbyk-sagan | xindy script version: 1.13 | 22:10 |
| godbyk-sagan | xindy kernel version: 2.3 | 22:10 |
| godbyk-sagan | xindy run time engine: x86_64-linux-gnu, version 2.2 | 22:10 |
| godbyk-sagan | CLISP version 2.48 (2009-07-28) (built on pcl321.mppmu.mpg.de [134.107.3.54]) | 22:10 |
| godbyk-sagan | architecture: X86_64 | 22:10 |
| ubuntujenkins | godbyk-sagan: this is what i get http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/90026/__________________ubuntu_10_04_012_N7SQXq.png | 22:10 |
| ubuntujenkins | this is what i just tried | 22:10 |
| ubuntujenkins | xindy release: unknown | 22:10 |
| ubuntujenkins | xindy script version: 1.08 | 22:10 |
| ubuntujenkins | xindy kernel version: 2.3 | 22:10 |
| ubuntujenkins | xindy run time engine: x86_64-linux-gnu, version 2.2 | 22:10 |
| ubuntujenkins | CLISP version 2.44 (2008-02-02) (built on excelsior.roeckx.be [83.143.242.5]) | 22:10 |
| ubuntujenkins | architecture: X86_64 | 22:11 |
| godbyk-sagan | ubuntujenkins: weird. | 22:11 |
| godbyk-sagan | so it's the pdf index. | 22:11 |
| godbyk-sagan | that's not a xindy thing. | 22:11 |
| godbyk-sagan | that'd be from the hyperref package. | 22:11 |
| ubuntujenkins | yea sorry, should have explained better | 22:11 |
| c7p | godbyk concerning the greek manual I think we are finished | 22:12 |
| c7p | have you read a message that I sent you before some days about the todo things ? | 22:12 |
| ubuntujenkins | c7p: / godbyk-sagan we have two pages to remove from before the index | 22:13 |
| c7p | ubuntujenkins: actually topo fixed all these bugs | 22:13 |
| godbyk-sagan | c7p: I glanced at it and then flagged it for review later. :) | 22:13 |
| c7p | ok :) | 22:14 |
| godbyk-sagan | ubuntujenkins: yeah, there's some odd bug in the \printindex command or somewhere along the way. | 22:14 |
| godbyk-sagan | ubuntujenkins: I had to jump through some hoops to fix it in the final English edition, as I recall. | 22:14 |
| ubuntujenkins | yea i recal you saying | 22:15 |
| godbyk-sagan | there are other customizations I made to the final English edition that didn't get reincorporated to the translated editions. (and I didn't want to anger the translators by updating the pot file so late in the game.) | 22:17 |
| godbyk-sagan | that's why we have all these little things to do by hand. | 22:17 |
| c7p | godbyk-sagan: so is there any material that needs translation for the official release of the translated manual ? | 22:20 |
| ubuntujenkins | hmm, godbyk-sagan I have gone back to older packages and no luck on this japanise letters | 22:24 |
| * c7p brb | 22:25 | |
| godbyk-sagan | I don't recall what extra stuff has already been translated. | 22:26 |
| godbyk-sagan | We have the new copyright page text in there? | 22:26 |
| godbyk-sagan | And the colophon text. | 22:27 |
| godbyk-sagan | I think those are the two big things that I added. | 22:27 |
| c7p | godbyk-sagan: yes have translated these stuff | 22:29 |
| ubuntujenkins | any suggestions on the letter problem | 22:30 |
| ubuntujenkins | *other | 22:30 |
| c7p | have you installed the latest version of xindy ? | 22:31 |
| godbyk-sagan | ubuntujenkins: not yet. It seems like it may have to do with either the fonts or with hyperref. | 22:32 |
| ubuntujenkins | yea i am thinking fonts i am trying to guess at what to install rather than the whole texlive-full and blowing th edownload limit at home | 22:32 |
| godbyk-sagan | ubuntujenkins: try a different font for your UI stuff. | 22:33 |
| ubuntujenkins | surely that will make no diffence if the builds.ubuntu...org ones work? | 22:34 |
| godbyk-sagan | ubuntujenkins: ah, good point. | 22:35 |
| ubuntujenkins | I am trying texlive-fonts-extra | 22:35 |
| godbyk-sagan | I don't expect that's have an effect, since we're not using the tex fonts. | 22:36 |
| ubuntujenkins | hmm | 22:36 |
| godbyk-sagan | ubuntujenkins: I just built it on my laptop and the bookmarks look okay. | 22:39 |
| ubuntujenkins | are you using the packages or source? | 22:40 |
| godbyk-sagan | ubuntujenkins, c7p: another thing we have to translate [for all translations]: the word 'Colophon' (as it appears in the bookmarks list). | 22:41 |
| godbyk-sagan | [I think there's another couple bookmarks I added to the final English addition. I'm gonna check as soon as I get the code checked out on my laptop.] | 22:42 |
| ubuntujenkins | also license its the only thing that is still ok in mine | 22:42 |
| ubuntujenkins | the word "license" | 22:42 |
| godbyk-sagan | ubuntujenkins: where do you see that? | 22:43 |
| ubuntujenkins | don't worry i think that may be done. I messed up and lost the *el.tex file. i did make clean | 22:44 |
| godbyk-sagan | okay, I'm feeling like an idiot. do you see the lucid-e1-en branch (or lucid-1e-en.. however I spelled it)? | 22:45 |
| godbyk-sagan | ubuntujenkins: ah, right. just run 'bzr revert ubuntu-manual-el.tex' to get it back. | 22:45 |
| godbyk-sagan | brb | 22:46 |
| ubuntujenkins | I have the file in an e-mail as c7p sent me a newer one | 22:46 |
| ubuntujenkins | godbyk-sagan: can you run me a list of what packages you have installed which start with ttf please | 22:52 |
| ubuntujenkins | don't worry its not a font as the others look ok | 22:53 |
| godbyk-sagan | back now | 22:58 |
| c7p | godbyk-sagan: should i mail you the translation of the word "Colophon" or should I tell it to you here on channel ? | 23:02 |
| godbyk-sagan | c7p: Email it to me. (Just to ensure irc doesn't mangle it.) | 23:05 |
| dutchie | irc is awesome at unicode | 23:06 |
| godbyk-sagan | dutchie: fair enough. but is xchat? or my xchat font? | 23:07 |
| godbyk-sagan | :) | 23:07 |
| dutchie | ønły 1 wæy ŧø finð øúŧ | 23:08 |
| godbyk-sagan | Heh.. now see, that makes no sense. ;-) | 23:08 |
| dutchie | wfm in irssi | 23:08 |
| godbyk-sagan | It works here, too. | 23:09 |
| dutchie | ŧ←þ→nŋ ł→ŧħ ŧħe ¢øµþøße ĸe← ħełð ðøłn łøøĸß æłeßøµe | 23:09 |
| dutchie | ”↓ŧ ↓n¶eæðæ”łe | 23:09 |
| godbyk-sagan | nice! | 23:10 |
| c7p | lol it's greek to me hahaha | 23:11 |
| dutchie | haha | 23:11 |
| ubuntujenkins | I see a mess of letters | 23:13 |
| c7p | so do I, dutchie how did you managed to type these characters ? | 23:14 |
| godbyk-sagan | dutchie: which key have you set as the compse key? | 23:14 |
| dutchie | alt-gr | 23:14 |
| godbyk-sagan | That might work, I don't think I ever use that key. Or maybe the Windows context menu key or something. That definitely never gets used. | 23:14 |
| ubuntujenkins | what is that key for? I ahve never ever used it | 23:15 |
| c7p | well i can't find it on keyboard ! | 23:15 |
| godbyk-sagan | which one? the windows context menu key? it pulls up the right-click menu for whatever thing has focus. (on windows at least.) | 23:15 |
| dutchie | the windows key is used for shortcuts (and is generally called "super") | 23:16 |
| dutchie | try super+a for example | 23:16 |
| c7p | ah we call it with other name :P | 23:17 |
| ubuntujenkins | godbyk-sagan: am i using the script you gave c7p to compile it or am i using make *el.tex | 23:19 |
| godbyk-sagan | ubuntujenkins: you *should* be able to use make blah-el.pdf | 23:20 |
| godbyk-sagan | the compile script is obsolete now and shouldn't be used. | 23:20 |
| ubuntujenkins | I feel I am asking idiotic questions but I am getting "make: `ubuntu-manual-el.tex' is up to date." what do i remove to make it run again? | 23:22 |
| ubuntujenkins | doing make *el.tex | 23:23 |
| godbyk-sagan | pdf not tex | 23:23 |
| ubuntujenkins | Its late :) | 23:24 |
| godbyk-sagan | excuses, excuses! | 23:24 |
| c7p | that's exactly what I thought :P ubuntujenkins | 23:24 |
| ubuntujenkins | I have to get up early tomorrow :/ | 23:24 |
| c7p | haven't you finished the exams? | 23:25 |
| ubuntujenkins | yea, I have some stuff for my job | 23:25 |
| ubuntujenkins | you have to love the crossover guys, I am not even a paying customer i a just trialing and they are letting me test a nighly build. Their service is great | 23:26 |
| ubuntujenkins | they have be very helpfull with my problems | 23:26 |
| godbyk-sagan | Found it! https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual/lucid-1e-en | 23:27 |
| godbyk-sagan | I'm not crazy after all! | 23:27 |
| dutchie | night all | 23:27 |
| c7p | g' night dutchie | 23:27 |
| godbyk-sagan | Launchpad was filtering the list of branches (and only showing the active branches). | 23:27 |
| godbyk-sagan | G'night, dutchie. | 23:27 |
| ubuntujenkins | night dutchie | 23:27 |
| godbyk-sagan | Cool. What're you using crossover for, ubuntujenkins? | 23:28 |
| * ubuntujenkins wispers office 2007 and macros | 23:30 | |
| ubuntujenkins | I have office due to uni | 23:30 |
| ubuntujenkins | and there is a cool excel thing that i have found | 23:30 |
| godbyk-sagan | oh? | 23:31 |
| ubuntujenkins | I am a scout leader and there is a very good spread sheet to help with organising. Cross over apears to be the best way to save rebooting | 23:31 |
| godbyk-sagan | Aha. | 23:32 |
| godbyk-sagan | I just run Office under Windows under Virtualbox OSE. | 23:32 |
| ubuntujenkins | they are the only place that supports macros but it takes, 90 mins to load the spread sheet this nigthly takes 2-3 aparently | 23:32 |
| godbyk-sagan | (I had to purchase a copy of Office the other day because we have to use some Word doc forms for uni and OOo wasn't saving them very well.) | 23:32 |
| godbyk-sagan | nice! | 23:33 |
| ubuntujenkins | my laptop would die doing that. virtual box | 23:33 |
| godbyk-sagan | yeah, it's pretty resource intensive. | 23:33 |
| ubuntujenkins | I e-mailed them and he said it does open honest it takes 10+ minutes though. | 23:33 |
| godbyk-sagan | I only use it on my new PC (which has lots of CPU cores and processors). | 23:33 |
| ubuntujenkins | my laptop will do linux boxes in vm but its not a fan of lots of installs in a row | 23:34 |
| c7p | g' night guys and kevin have a nice time at the latex evening :) | 23:44 |
| godbyk-sagan | c7p: thanks! see ya later. | 23:45 |
| ubuntujenkins | wow it did load faster but the macros do not work :( "out of memory" | 23:48 |
| godbyk-sagan | ah, bummer. | 23:48 |
| godbyk-sagan | time to upgrade. :) | 23:48 |
| ubuntujenkins | I wish I have to buy loads of stuff before i start my job | 23:48 |
| godbyk-sagan | where's your job again? (I think you told me before.) | 23:48 |
| dutchie | i'm not very good at going to bed | 23:49 |
| ubuntujenkins | dutchie: I do that all the time | 23:49 |
| godbyk-sagan | dutchie: Me neither (among so very many other things). | 23:50 |
| ubuntujenkins | godbyk-sagan: enginerring student at cummins | 23:50 |
| ubuntujenkins | big engines | 23:50 |
| godbyk-sagan | ubuntujenkins: ah, cool. | 23:50 |
| dutchie | beats my prospective job at carphone warehouse | 23:51 |
| dutchie | stupid android and it's long "Starting download" time | 23:52 |
| dutchie | er, its | 23:52 |
| dutchie | stuff it, bedtime | 23:53 |
| dutchie | actually this time | 23:53 |
| godbyk-sagan | are they ever going to release froyo? | 23:54 |
| ubuntujenkins | I thought it was out? I am sure fab was on about it on linux outlaws | 23:55 |
| godbyk-sagan | well, I think people have been downloading an unofficial version. | 23:55 |
| godbyk-sagan | but they haven't pushed the update over the air yet. | 23:55 |
| ubuntujenkins | i see, you and your nexus one :) | 23:57 |
| godbyk-sagan | yep! :) | 23:57 |
| godbyk-sagan | btw, if anyone has any good recommendations for a linux-based tablet or an awesome (open) ebook reader, let me know. | 23:58 |
| godbyk-sagan | I bought a netbook/tablet the other day, but have to send it back as the battery won't recharge. | 23:58 |
| ubuntujenkins | get a wee tab, when they come out | 23:59 |
| ubuntujenkins | we-tab actually | 23:59 |
| godbyk-sagan | when are they due out? | 23:59 |
| ubuntujenkins | ages :( | 23:59 |
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