ddecatordang, new fail..00:05
Mook_sbthink of it as having some new exciting bug to fix!00:09
Mook_sb(I have to try doing that, otherwise I'd end up stabbing things :p )00:09
ddecatorMook_sb: more practice, right? haha00:10
ddecatoralthough this one is related to a patch we have..00:10
ddecatorah, got it00:18
* ddecator hates huge patches00:23
ddecatordang, didn't fix it...i'm gonna have to look into it later :(00:56
Mook_sbwant to paste the error somewhere in the mean time? :)01:05
ddecatorMook_sb: one of our patches deletes some files related to hunspell, and when i build it complains that it cannot find one of those files, not sure if the patch isn't working properly or if that's a new issue. it's related to xr again, so i'm going to see if i need to get any patches from the xr192 branch later :)01:07
Mook_sbah; okay, you'd have a lot more handle on that (mostly because it involves actually building things to test) :D01:07
ddecatoryah, unfortunately. i'm to the point i have to wait a half hour each time i test :/01:08
micahgddecator: debuild -nc?01:13
ddecatormicahg: what does that do again?01:13
micahgddecator: doesn't clean the build dri01:13
ddecatormicahg: oh yah, but where would it start the build?01:14
micahgddecator: it starts at teh beginning, just doesn't rebuild components that are already built01:15
ddecatormicahg: good to know, but unfortunately nothing is building yet...i need to remember that for when other things break though, i knew there was a way to do that but i couldn't remember :x01:16
micahgddecator: it also, doesn't redo the tarball01:16
ddecatormicahg: would still save time. thanks :)01:17
ddecatorbut i need a break from looking at the computer screen. i'll be back later to try and figure out the cause of the failure01:19
chrisccoulson_awesome, jaunty is nearly completely ready to go :)01:19
asacchrisccoulson_: did you see the question about new extensions on mailing list?01:21
asacmaybe answer there ;)01:21
asac(its about 3.6.4 update and how organizations can be better prepared for it)01:21
chrisccoulson_asac - i did. i've not had time to answer yet though01:21
chrisccoulson_i'm not sure what to do though, as this is how firefox behaves upstream when extensions are updated too01:21
asacjust wasnt sure if you are subscribed to discuss01:21
chrisccoulson_i am, but i generally don't read mails there. micahg pointed me to it earlier01:22
micahggnomefreak point it out to me :)01:22
asacchrisccoulson_: right. but what he wondered is is if he updates the computers from ppa now ... will he get the new extension dialog again when the final rollout happens01:22
asaci would think we can say "typically not ... unless extensions need to be fixed still"01:22
chrisccoulson_ah, i misunderstood that then. no, users won't get the dialog again, as the updates in the archive will be the same as those in the PPA01:23
asacnot sure why he doesnt have a problem in general with that ... probably because we dont update extensions (so system extensions seem to have a value;))01:23
asacthough maybe he disabled the "check for extensions update" checkbox to avoid the on-startup upgrades01:23
asacbtw, sunday is the day ;) ::: GER - ENG :-P01:23
chrisccoulson_i have no confidence in our team anyway ;)01:24
chrisccoulson_i'm surprised we made it to the last 1601:24
asaci am surprised that ENG got that far too ... our team usually sucks (like today) ... but in the end often win ;)01:24
asacusually if you feel disgusted during the game you can be sure we win. if they play nice all is becoming risky ;)01:25
chrisccoulson_it should be an entertaining game01:25
asacyeah. at least its in south africa ... so there wont be riots ;)01:25
asacat least no country vs. country riots... i know that english folks do riots anyway ;) ... which is understandable given how bad they were in the past :-P01:26
chrisccoulson_yeah, sometimes i feel ashamed when our supporters behave so badly ;)01:27
chrisccoulson_fortunately, most of these people have their passports confiscated during major tournaments ;)01:27
asacright. i doubt those are really supporters though. they are just idiots01:27
asacand iirc we have the same ... but ENG is really famous for that ;)01:28
chrisccoulson_heh :)01:28
chrisccoulson_we gave our daughter an england flag this afternoon01:28
chrisccoulson_she just tried to eat it01:28
asacah. she got it right!01:29
chrisccoulson_she's at the age where evereything is edible ;)01:29
asacchrisccoulson_: you are still darth vader in directory btw ;)01:35
asacget a picture01:35
chrisccoulson_asac - yeah, i keep being asked to get a picture01:36
asacthat was long ;)01:36
asaccan your irc client open that ;)?01:36
asaccopy it to firefox01:36
asacguess it was cut off for you ;)01:37
asacshould end with f/9k=01:37
micahg340 char or so01:37
asacyeah. should be more like 1k+01:37
chrisccoulson_yeah, i think it was cut off01:37
asac10k even ;)01:37
asacfor such a small image ;)01:38
asacok nice try ;)01:38
* asac drops out. 'night!01:38
chrisccoulson_'night asac01:39
micahgchrisccoulson_: did you grab fennec yet?01:53
chrisccoulson_micahg - not yet01:53
micahgchrisccoulson_: k01:53
ddecatorhm, the hunspell patch in sb isn't in xr192..04:48
micahgddecator: it's probably opbsolete04:49
ddecatormicahg: do you think i should remove it?04:50
* micahg goes to look at the patch before commenting04:50
ddecatorbecause the issue is a makefile needs one of the files that the patch currently deletes04:50
micahgddecator: comment it out in series for now04:51
micahgddecator: we can probably drop it04:51
ddecatormicahg: sure thing04:51
* ddecator uses debuild -nc :)04:53
ddecatorwell, shoot. sb _should_ be good now, but there is an issue upstream preventing the build from finishing (their bot failed for the same reason) so i'll have to wait until that is fixed -_-05:48
micahgddecator: weave aka sync will now be in FF trunk :)05:49
ddecatormicahg: nice, and webm has been working fairly well (still loads two audio stream for some videos) :)05:50
ddecatori just saw their blog post of linux gui mock-ups for FF405:51
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jdstrandchrisccoulson: hi! do you have an idea when the openjdk-6 packages for jaunty and karmic will be uploaded? I'm trying to decide whether to pull the trigger on hardy/lucid13:10
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - i found an issue on hardy i'm looking at atm13:10
chrisccoulsonthe totem plugin doesn't actually work (although I thought it did, i wasn't really playing media with that plugin)13:11
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - see https://developer.mozilla.org/en/firefox_3.6_for_developers13:11
chrisccoulson"The NPN_GetValue() function no longer provides access to XPCOM through the variable values NPNVserviceManager, NPNVDOMelement, and NPNVDOMWindow. This is part of the work toward making plugins run in separate processes in a future version of Gecko."13:11
chrisccoulsonthat breaks the totem plugin big time :(13:12
jdstrandchrisccoulson: hrmm. that means my tests also didn't use the plugin :(13:13
jdstrandchrisccoulson: what url/filetype did you use to verify totem?13:13
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - yeah, i got caught out by that. if i just open up an mpeg or something on my filesystem, then it doesn't play13:13
chrisccoulsonbut i tested by playing an ogv embedded in a webpage before, which doesn't play in totem13:14
jdstrandchrisccoulson: so you soemthing like file:///<path>.mpeg?13:14
jdstrandchrisccoulson: basically, I want to know what you did exactly so I can update my test :)13:15
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - yeah, i just went to File -> Open File and pointed it to an mpeg. the plugin in the archive won't load that anymore with FF3.6 (it fails with "Failed to get the service manager")13:16
chrisccoulsonand my feeble attempt at rebuilding totem with xul192 in the PPA will actually just make firefox abort completely13:16
jdstrandchrisccoulson: ok, thanks13:16
jdstrandchrisccoulson: so, what is the plan now?13:17
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - i'm cherrypicking bits from the later totem plugin which avoids using the missing API13:17
jdstrandchrisccoulson: ok. sounds good. I won't keep you13:17
chrisccoulsoni expect that will work, but it's just taking a while (I don't really want to backport the whole of totem, else we will end up in the same situation as we did with epiphany-webkit)13:18
chrisccoulsonie, needing half of glib and gtk backporting too ;)13:18
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* jdstrand nods13:29
jdstrandchrisccoulson: so, gnome-chemistry-utils is deleted. sru?13:29
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - there's no need to do even that, the plugin wasn't detected in hardy release13:30
jdstrandk, thanks13:30
chrisccoulsoni only realised that when i went to investigate it not rendering properly after the update13:30
chrisccoulsoni'm glad i tested totem again though :-/13:30
jdstrandchrisccoulson: yes! nice catch13:31
jdstrandchrisccoulson: I will be updating my tests to catch this in the future13:31
jdstrands/this/this sort of thing/13:31
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BUGabundohi asac15:01
BUGabundostill testing with the bot?15:01
BUGabundowhy do you even need 100mbs if they don't work?15:01
asacspecial situation15:13
BUGabundoman ... desktopcouch broken AGAIN15:26
BUGabundowhy can't this peace of software hold for more then 2 weeks?!?!?15:26
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jdstrandchrisccoulson: do you have a bug # for the totem regression?16:56
jdstrandchrisccoulson: or rather, did you file a bug for it?16:56
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - not yet. i've just got it to build with the changes in now, so, going to test it16:56
chrisccoulsonhopefully it will work :)16:56
jdstrandchrisccoulson: k. I created some free avi, mpg and ogv files for QRT, and update my test script to use file:// as well as embedded16:57
jdstrandchrisccoulson: the test catches the regression, so I feel pretty good going forward16:57
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - cool :)17:00
chrisccoulsonit works btw :)17:00
chrisccoulsonfirst time!17:00
jdstrandchrisccoulson: nice! :)17:02
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - the only issue is i have to disable the totem-complex plugin (as that doesn't build)17:03
chrisccoulsonbut that only handles realaudio17:03
chrisccoulsonand it has been removed entirely from jaunty onwards anyway17:04
jdstrandchrisccoulson: I can release note that17:04
chrisccoulsoni will tidy up the changelog and get that in to the PPA now17:04
jdstrandchrisccoulson: of course, that makes helix-player slightly more important I guess ;)17:04
chrisccoulsonyeah, that's a bit of a pain17:04
jdstrandchrisccoulson: but still, not a blocker17:04
jdstrandchrisccoulson: what other plugins work in hardy that can play realaudio?17:06
jdstrand(for the release note, I thought it might be nice to recommend something)17:07
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - i'm not sure. i don't even think there are any in lucid (helix doesn't work there either, and totem doesn't handle it)17:07
chrisccoulsonperhaps VLC?17:07
chrisccoulsonbut that crashes the browser in jaunty :-/17:07
chrisccoulsoni'll test it on hardy and see what happens17:07
* BUGabundoWriting raises an eye brow17:11
jdstrandright, but this release note is only for hardy, and hardy users will upgrade to lucid17:11
BUGabundoWritinganyone knows that maverick codecs are broken?17:11
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - ok, totem uploaded now17:15
jdstrandchrisccoulson: thanks! btw, is vlc broken in jaunty release? I know you told me, but I forgot17:16
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, yeah, the plugin crashes firefox in jaunty release too17:16
chrisccoulsoni'm just about to test that in hardy now17:16
jdstrandwell, it doesn't crash 3.6.4 on hardy17:17
jdstrandand it seems to play the file:// URLs. my plugin detection for my embedded tests failed, but that is y testing17:19
chrisccoulsonhmmm, xine-plugin crashes firefox too17:25
jdstrandchrisccoulson: so if you disable the realaudio support, it obviously will not show up in about:plugins as a supported format. I removed totem-mozilla here and found some x-pn-realaudio content, and was prompted to install xine or gecko-mediaplayer (gmplayer). this is enough for the release note17:33
jdstrandchrisccoulson: and gnome-mediaplayer seems to work17:38
LLStarksrick spencer is wrong. dead wrong.18:37
LLStarksand he's spreading fud about firefox in ubuntu18:37
ddecatorhuh wha?18:39
jdstrandchrisccoulson: I've tested the new hardy/totem, and it is much better. however it still has one regression18:40
jdstrandchrisccoulson: it can't find the location of embedded media for a relative path when using file:// on the url18:41
jdstrandchrisccoulson: eg, go to http://people.canonical.com/~jamie/totem-test/18:41
jdstrandchrisccoulson: if you click on 'embed_full.html', then after a few seconds you will see a movie of the jaunty desktop18:42
jdstrandchrisccoulson: if you do 'Save Link As' for both embed_file_url.html and rfbproxy-jaunty.ogv, then try to open embed_file_url.html via 'File/Open', it won't play18:43
jdstrandchrisccoulson: it does play in jaunty and lucid18:43
jdstrandchrisccoulson: it used to work with 3.0.1918:46
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - ok, will have a look at that in a minute. i'm just testing a few things in hardy release atm18:52
jdstrandchrisccoulson: k18:55
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - ok, having xine-plugin installed makes firefox crash on startup after the upgrade19:01
chrisccoulsonthat's not good :(19:01
jdstrandbummer :(19:01
* jdstrand makes a note19:02
LLStarksdid you guys see rick spencer's comment?19:02
chrisccoulsonLLStarks, where was that?19:03
jcastroLLStarks: I think you should calm down before accusing someone of spreading fud19:05
jcastrowhy don't you just ask him to clarify so he can correct the error?19:06
LLStarkshe's not on freenode19:06
LLStarksi sent him a message on twitter19:06
chrisccoulsonhmmm, LLStarks, your comment on there is completely and utterly wrong19:06
chrisccoulsonrick is well aware of the mozilla policy, and has been involved with it all along19:06
chrisccoulsonLLStarks, well, I work with rick19:07
LLStarksam i wrong about 3.6.4 and 4.0 getting backported?19:07
LLStarksbecause that's what micah and asac told me a few weeks ago19:07
chrisccoulsonLLStarks, no, but that is completely orthogonal to any discussion of a rolling release19:07
chrisccoulsonand i can tell you with 100% certaintly that your comment about rick not being aware of the policy is completely wrong19:08
LLStarksi didn't imply that he didn't know. he just phrased things a bit awkwardly.19:08
chrisccoulsonLLStarks, your words exatly: "As a member of the Ubuntu-MozillaSquad, I can honestly say that Rick has no idea what he's talking about with respect to Firefox."19:09
chrisccoulsonhow do you not imply that he didn't know?19:09
chrisccoulsoni think you should clarify yourself on that blog before you make yourself look a fool19:09
LLStarksi will. i didn't ask andrew to post my stuff.19:10
chrisccoulsonLLStarks, thanks19:13
LLStarksnote to self: don't post on blogs where webmasters actually read comments19:13
chrisccoulsonLLStarks, the comment "It does not make Ubuntu a rolling release. You will not be able to get the latest versions of apps like Firefox, Open Office, etc... from this method" is true though - we won't be distributing new versions of firefox via this method19:14
chrisccoulsonwe will be updating versions in the archive though, but they won't be updated immediately each time a new version comes along19:14
chrisccoulsonthe plan is that firefox will be updated to the next major release as the current version approaches EOL19:14
LLStarksi know that extras isn't the same as main or -updates, i only sought to not many people know about the firefox policy.19:15
LLStarks*sought to clarify19:15
LLStarks*clarify since19:15
chrisccoulsonpeople will know about the firefox policy in the next few days ;)19:16
chrisccoulsonalso, i really hope hardy and karmic don't get 4.0 ;)19:17
chrisccoulsonwe're hoping that 3.6 is supported long enough to see those releases through to the end now19:17
LLStarksare there technical considerations against giving 4.0 to hardy and karmic?19:17
chrisccoulsonit's an incredible amount of effort to introduce the new version, as i'm finding out right now19:18
chrisccoulsonwe don't want to do it again in the next year if we can avoid it19:18
LLStarksi can imagine them being a more of a nightmare than the lucid transition of xulrunner19:18
chrisccoulsonyeah, it is19:18
chrisccoulsoni've been working on the 3.6 transition for weeks now19:18
chrisccoulsonalong with jdstrand and micahg19:19
LLStarksbtw, is the transition for main or updates?19:19
LLStarksi wasn't too sure.19:20
jdstrandLLStarks: it is going through -security19:20
chrisccoulsonLLStarks, main and updates are 2 different things. the update will be published through security, and will affect applications in all components19:20
LLStarkshardy shipping with 3.0 beta 5 is the whole reason for this, right?19:21
chrisccoulsonLLStarks, hardy currently has
chrisccoulson3.0b5 was the release version, but it's been maintained since then19:22
LLStarkswith xulrunner and firefox no longer joined at the hip, will the transitions get easier as releases expire? that is, will it take only 2 week instead of 2 months in 2012 for example?19:27
chrisccoulsonLLStarks, that's what we hope. decoupling them doesn't particularly make the updates that much easier though. what will make the updates easier is reducing in-archive reverse dependencies19:28
chrisccoulsonwhich we alaready started in lucid19:28
chrisccoulsonand also reducing the number of extensions in the archive, as we have a crazy amount to update in the older releases19:28
LLStarkstoo many things rely on specific xulrunner versions19:30
chrisccoulsonyeah, that's a problem19:30
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - micahg posted a mail to tb-planning a few days ago asking about the life of tb3.019:31
chrisccoulsonand we've just had a response saying that it's likely to be supported for significantly less than 6 months19:31
chrisccoulsonso, we might need to start preparing 3.1 for lucid soon ;)19:31
jdstrandwell, that should be far less painful19:32
chrisccoulsonyeah, hopefully19:32
LLStarksi haven't been too impressed with the tb3.1 tarballs. nothing new or earthshattering feature-wise.19:32
chrisccoulsonLLStarks, that's good from a maintenance POV ;)19:33
ddecatortb 3.1 has an add-on for conversation-style threading, so i may switch once that starts working :)19:33
chrisccoulsonwe don't want it to be too different19:33
LLStarksthat's what they said about evolution for lucid19:34
jcastroddecator: wait, what? link!19:35
ddecatorjcastro: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/54035/19:36
chrisccoulsonwe'll get 3.1 in to maverick soon19:36
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - hmmm, firefox works with xine-plugin installed now. perhaps i started it with some media open in another tab previously19:37
LLStarksthunderbird has become such a snooze that i didn't even know 3.1 was released.19:39
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, ok, it crashes when trying to play media. that's not so bad (and this plugin isn't even detected in hardy release)19:40
LLStarkseither the blogs are slow, or there was no hyping19:40
jdstrandchrisccoulson: so in hardy release, the plugin is not detected, but in 3.6.4 it is, but doesn't crash until you try to play media?19:43
ddecatorjust gonna leave this here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIZUdZdFzOo&feature=player_embedded19:43
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - yeah, that's right. so, we probably still need to release note that, in case people wonder why their browser starts crashing ;)19:44
jdstrandchrisccoulson: ok, I'll confirm your findings and adjust19:44
jdstrandddecator: that is fun! :)19:46
ddecatorjdstrand: :)19:47
DBOping fta19:49
ftaDBO, ?19:50
DBOfta, hi I was told you might be a good person to discuss chromium with19:50
ftaDBO, depends. what do you want?19:51
DBOmultiple things, do you mind a private chat?19:51
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, ok, for totem - the plugin is turning the relative path in to an absolute path in your home folder for some reason :-/19:51
chrisccoulsonso it always tries to play $HOME/rfbproxj-jaunty.ogv19:51
ftaDBO, nope, feel free19:52
jdstrandchrisccoulson: I guess it would normally play from cache or /tmp?19:52
* jdstrand hasn't ever looked at how totem works19:53
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - for http URI's, probably19:53
chrisccoulsonbut for file URI's, it just plays them directly19:53
jdstrandI see19:53
chrisccoulson(the plugin passes the file URI to the viewer process)19:53
jdstrandchrisccoulson: I can say that jaunty 3.6.4 and its totem does work, if that is helpful19:54
chrisccoulsonyeah, i suspect it's something to do with my patch ;19:55
jdstrandI wasn't going to say that, but was trying to gently hint ;)19:55
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - hmmm, weird. it breaks in the viewer process rather than the plugin, which my patch doesn't touch20:07
chrisccoulsonyou don't happen to have a machine without the updates on do you?20:07
chrisccoulsoni wouldn't mind seeing the dbus activity on with the old hardy plugin20:08
jdstrandchrisccoulson: I do20:10
jdstrandchrisccoulson: tell my what you want20:11
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - i'm quite interested in the parameters in the OpenURI message that the browser sends20:11
chrisccoulsoni'm going to check them on jaunty after the updates, but it would be useful to see hardy before the update too20:11
chrisccoulsonjust so i can figure out which side is wrong ;)20:12
chrisccoulson(plugin or viewer)20:12
jdstrandchrisccoulson: can you give me the command you want me to run?20:13
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - you can just capture the output of dbus-monitor as you open the html file20:13
ftajdstrand, will you remove chromium from proposed soon?20:14
chrisccoulsonok, so the browser plugin in jaunty behaves the same as in hardy20:16
chrisccoulsoni suspect the behaviour changed between the 2 releases and i need to apply a corresponding change to the viewer in hardy20:17
jdstrandchrisccoulson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/454640/20:18
jdstrandfta: I'm told it gets removed automatically. is it causing a problem?20:18
ftajdstrand, no, i'm just curious20:18
ftajdstrand, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/chromium-daily.html  i see "SUP" :)20:19
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - ah, so the old plugin does behave quite a bit differently20:19
jdstrandfta: cleaning out the -proposed queue is really the ubuntu-sru team's responsibility. I could do it, but I don't want to miss a step in their process (I am not on that team)20:20
ftajdstrand, no worries, it's all fine20:21
jdstrandfta: I did ask fairly recently, and pitti told me it should happen automatically at some point20:21
* jdstrand nods20:21
jdstrandchrisccoulson: I can confirm that xine-plugin and gxineplugin do not register in hardy release20:22
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - thanks20:23
chrisccoulsoni can see where the issues is with totem now20:23
chrisccoulson(it needs some magic to resolve the relative URI in the viewer)20:23
chrisccoulsoni will fix that after dinner20:23
jdstrandcool, thanks20:25
gnomefreakdont mind me i working on something20:28
gnomefreakwhy does it tell you that you are enabled and when you tryt o enable it tells you you cant (nautilus)20:40
gnomefreakthats just stupid20:40
gnomefreaki know who to ask20:40
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gnomefreakits a bug :)20:47
ubot2gnomefreak: I don't recognize you.20:49
gnomefreakof courcse you dont you asshole20:50
* gnomefreak going to regret asking this but is there any chance of getting ubufox to use bing ans a search engine choice. My wife likes it20:56
micahggnomefreak: :P20:56
* gnomefreak never used it20:56
gnomefreakok it is literally worthless IMHO20:58
* BUGabundoWriting trips gnomefreak20:59
gnomefreakalready fell20:59
gnomefreakask and google are a little better so maybe its what im searching for21:01
micahggnomefreak: mozilla 53461721:02
* micahg kicks ubot221:02
* gnomefreak looking for the site that tells you how to make the output of wrong password be funny21:02
ubot2micahg: Error: Could not parse XML returned by Mozilla: The read operation timed out (http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/xml.cgi?id=534617)21:02
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micahgmozilla 53461721:02
gnomefreaki got it21:03
ubot2Mozilla bug 534617 in Search "Bing is not on available search engines" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53461721:03
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - how much work do you think you need to do for us to do the hardy release?21:03
gnomefreaki went into -ops to do it21:03
gnomefreakwhy upstream this isnt something we can add to ubufox?21:03
micahggnomefreak: no reason to21:04
gnomefreakhint upstream didnt enable all the LP ones we have21:04
micahggnomefreak: ubufox should be Ubuntu specific stuff, no need for this to be Ubuntu specific21:04
* gnomefreak doesnt care one way or another she just asked21:04
gnomefreakmicahg: good point21:04
micahggnomefreak: so you can vote on the upstream bug :)21:04
gnomefreakyeah but do i want my name involved with bing :(21:05
micahgheh, does it show who votes?21:05
BUGa_LegendSekerget your wife to do it21:05
gnomefreakdont know but i commented on it since it was talking about default (or at least someone posted that)21:08
gnomefreakwhy she would use my username for upstream21:08
gnomefreaki dont see a "vote*"21:09
gnomefreakyes i do21:09
* ddecator hands gnomefreak my glasses21:09
gnomefreakdebfx: got mine on too :)21:09
micahggnomefreak: tab complete failure :)21:10
jdstrandchrisccoulson: I'm targetting monday for hardy and lucid21:10
gnomefreakoops yeah21:10
jdstrandchrisccoulson: we could probably do it tomorrow, but I'd rather have the week for regressions21:10
gnomefreaktoday is just going oh so frigging great21:10
micahgchrisccoulson: jdstrand: I'll have Seamonkey ready Sat night w/the new changelog21:11
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, yeah, i'd rather not do tomorrow. i'd like a break over the weekend21:11
* gnomefreak be back maybe i can do something that works out right today21:11
micahgTB backports hopefully monday21:11
gnomefreakbut im sure ill burn myself again21:11
chrisccoulsonbut i will be finished on hardy easily by this evening21:11
jdstrandchrisccoulson: how do you feel about monday?21:11
jdstrandmicahg: great!21:11
chrisccoulsonmicahg - thanks21:11
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - monday should be fine21:11
jdstrandchrisccoulson: cool21:11
micahgjdstrand: what's going on with openjdk backports?  do I need to get those up in a PPA so they can be pushed to security PPA?21:12
jdstrandmicahg: yes please. I thought that was how we left it...21:12
micahgjdstrand: k, just verifying21:12
micahgjdstrand: don't know if I can get that before the weekend21:13
jdstrandmicahg: sbeattie will be handling the TCK testing. he is currently getting the environment all set up21:13
micahgjdstrand: k, so If I have it by monday, we're good?21:13
jdstrandmicahg: that should be ok, yes.21:13
micahgjdstrand: k21:14
jdstrandmicahg: thanks :)21:14
Mook_sbgnomefreak: for a single user, in the mean time you can probably do something like http://mycroft.mozdev.org/bing-search-search-plugins.html instead21:14
ddecatorMook_sb: btw, songbird just finished building for me :)21:16
Mook_sbddecator: :D _successfully_ ?21:16
ddecatorMook_sb: well, the debs were made, now i just need to test it. btw, if you guys don't support linux, why do you still have a bot that builds for linux? :p21:16
Mook_sbddecator: we don't have QA people for linux :p21:17
ddecatorMook_sb: just thought it was funny. every time i mention songbird people just say "they don't support it, you can't build it" -_-21:17
Mook_sbddecator: by the same logic, the debian powerpc package for iceweasel doesn't exist either ;)21:19
ddecatorand it works! just gotta figure out the commits..21:19
gnomefreakmicahg: ^^21:19
gnomefreakddecator: you got the python and the ?= worked out?21:20
* micahg wants to add Songbird in Maverick +121:20
* gnomefreak likes the "and it works" [art of that21:20
jdstrandchrisccoulson: I have another totem item for your list: if I go to http://people.canonical.com/~jamie/totem-test/embed_full.html in hardy epiphany, it will play the video fine, but when I close epiphany, it leaves a totem-plugin-viewer process running. this is a regression over hardy release21:20
ddecatorgnomefreak: yah, i just had to make a patch that made it look for python2.6 instead of python2.521:20
ddecatormicahg: sounds good to me :)21:21
gnomefreakddecator: ah21:21
gnomefreakany chance of getting this into the daily PPA in the meantime?21:21
jdstrandmeh, he dropped off21:21
* gnomefreak been wanting to play with this for a long time21:21
ddecatoronce i get everything committed and micah gets time to review21:22
ddecatori also want to setup a stable ppa at some point21:22
gnomefreakddecator: cool21:23
jdstrandchrisccoulson: hey. from scrollback:21:32
jdstrand15:20 < jdstrand> chrisccoulson: I have another totem item for your list: if I  go to  http://people.canonical.com/~jamie/totem-test/embed_full.html  in hardy epiphany, it will play the video fine, but when I  close epiphany, it leaves a totem-plugin-viewer process  running. this is a regression over hardy release21:32
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - ok, i will look at that too21:33
jdstrandchrisccoulson: thanks. those two epiphany issues are the only ones I have on my list as pending for hardy-security21:34
jdstrandchrisccoulson: sorry, those two *totem* issues21:34
chrisccoulsoni'm just about to test the fix for the first issue21:34
ddecatorMook_sb: when i mention you, is it ok if i use your name or do you want me to just use your email?21:41
Mook_sbddecator: just refer to me as Mook should be fine? and pick one of my emails, doesn't matter which :)21:42
ddecatorMook_sb: sounds good :)21:42
ddecatormicahg: not sure if i formatted it all correctly, but i did what i think is right and pushed to the branch, so the merge is updating. i'm guessing you'll have to review later since there are so many changes, just let me know what i need to change when you get around to it21:51
ddecatoranyway, i have to go eat dinner. bbl21:51
Mook_sbddecator: hmm, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ddecator/songbird/fix-songbird-daily-build-20100416/revision/121 the change to the new line 102 is wrong, it should be --enable-debug21:52
Mook_sb(I think this means it won't actually make a debug build when you set WANT_DEBUG_BUILD=1)21:53
Mook_sbddecator: and for http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ddecator/songbird/fix-songbird-daily-build-20100416/revision/119 that can be worked around if you  set PYTHON in XUL_CONFIGURE_ENV I think21:55
gnomefreakwait you commited it <evil grin> be back reboot is needed for test22:02
jdstrandchrisccoulson: interesting. the totem plugin not being close on browser close also affects jaunty epiphany after the upgrade, but not jaunty release22:06
chrisccoulsonheh, that is strange22:07
jdstrandchrisccoulson: that seems to point to a larger 1.9.2/epiphany/totem interaction22:07
jdstrandI'll check karmic and lucid too22:07
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, thanks. those are both using webkit though aren't they?22:08
jdstrandoh, yeah. true22:08
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, and it doesn't get left around with firefox?22:09
jdstrandI don't think so, cause it is python-unit that is hanging cause a child process is still left (and firefox doesn't hang in pyunit), but I'll double check22:11
jdstrandchrisccoulson: it does not get left around with firefox on jaunty22:13
* jdstrand check hardy22:13
jdstrandchrisccoulson: it does not get left around with firefox on hardy22:16
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - ok, thanks. the other problem is fixed now :)22:19
asacchrisccoulson: wonder, did you manage to get mvo help on dist-upgrade testing with the new packages?22:20
chrisccoulsonasac - mvo asked for the link to the PPA a few days ago to do some testing, but i'm not sure if he got round to it yet22:21
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - i will upload totem as it is for now, and maybe investigate this other issue in the morning22:35
jdstrandchrisccoulson: k, thanks22:35
jdstrandchrisccoulson: I do think it needs to be fixed, cause we don't want to leave a bunch of processes laying around with resources getting lost, but if you aren't able to find a fix tomorrow, we can release note it saying that it will be fixed in SRU22:37
gnomefreakha people from mozilla were thinking what i was about spending time on code-names rather than the project23:02
gnomefreakMiramar == tb3.223:03
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - epiphany doesn't shut down properly (NP_Shutdown is never called in the plugin)23:10
BUGabundofta: http://www.stratus0s.org/23:15
BUGabundoeheh he hosts the isos in gdocs :D23:15
ddecatorMook_sb: it still built a -dbg, but maybe it won't continue unless we change that...i'll look it over later, thanks :)23:36
Mook_sbddecator: it'll probably continue, it'll just be a release build pretending to be debug :)23:37
Mook_sbalso; enable-debug isn't what you get in a -dbg package, gcc -g is23:37
Mook_sbenable-debug is "lots of console spew, assertions, and other debug code that makes the app unbearably slow"23:38
micahgddecator: I don't think we want --enable-debug in the dailies23:40
ddecatorwell there we go :)23:40
Mook_sbyeah, it's more useful for local debugging (where you build the app locally too)23:40
micahgchrisccoulson: I'm going to add a note to the firefox-stable PPA to use the mozilla-security PPA for now until 4.0 is released23:46

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