_pg_ | does anyone here use ubuntu studio for anything other than audio? | 02:14 |
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_pg_ | like graphics or video | 02:14 |
_pg_ | or web | 02:14 |
holstein | i know they do | 02:14 |
holstein | i think the audio guys tend to be in here more often though | 02:15 |
_pg_ | im trying to find out if there is any advantqage over a vanilla ubuntu plus the apps installed after | 02:15 |
holstein | nah | 02:15 |
holstein | its the same end result | 02:15 |
_pg_ | then what eh hem is the point lol | 02:15 |
holstein | the vanilla on is for normal folks | 02:16 |
holstein | desktop folks | 02:16 |
_pg_ | or anyone not doing audio= | 02:16 |
holstein | and the studio version is for us | 02:16 |
holstein | so we dont have to install all the extra packages | 02:16 |
holstein | they just come on it | 02:16 |
holstein | and its an official distro | 02:17 |
holstein | with a nice theme and all that | 02:17 |
holstein | but, you end up with the same thing | 02:17 |
_pg_ | holstein: i guess. it just seems like 90% for audio and 10% for everything else | 02:17 |
holstein | its getting better | 02:17 |
holstein | BUT for a while, thats about how it was | 02:17 |
_pg_ | how so? | 02:17 |
holstein | for all opensource software available | 02:18 |
holstein | multi-media wise | 02:18 |
holstein | about %10 video and graphics | 02:18 |
* zus likes it, and is still downloading his favorite programs that werent included with ubuntustudio nor lucid... | 02:18 | |
holstein | zus: you can suggest ont he mailing list i would think | 02:19 |
zus | would have been nice if the threw kdenlive in there,...mailing list | 02:19 |
holstein | sometimes they just dont get included if they are not stable | 02:19 |
holstein | zus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio | 02:20 |
zus | you should have sseen my applications list when i first tried ubuntu... | 02:20 |
holstein | the mailing list info is there somewhere | 02:20 |
holstein | cant hurt to ask :) | 02:20 |
holstein | OH | 02:21 |
holstein | bbl | 02:21 |
* holstein gotta run to the store before it closes :) | 02:21 | |
zus | i had just about 3 of everything trying what i liked and whathaveyou....the vanilla cut 80% of that in half the hunting for thins that is,.. | 02:22 |
zus | thins= things or should have been.. | 02:22 |
holstein | we have a channel for audio | 02:56 |
holstein | #opensourcemusicians | 02:57 |
holstein | it would be nice to find those kind of channels for video and graphics | 02:57 |
holstein | eh | 02:57 |
holstein | _pg_ is gone anyways | 02:57 |
zus | holstein, i have heard some sample demos from lmms, i find it a bit too how can i put it "computer-y" not bad though maybe with equipment i can get more natural sound...least i got this far | 03:15 |
holstein | zus: try and get [lsd] talking about gear | 03:15 |
holstein | over in #opensourcemusicians | 03:15 |
holstein | he does VERY nice musical sounding things with sequencers and MIDI | 03:16 |
holstein | all in FOSS | 03:16 |
zus | what is lsd? and im in the chan now | 03:16 |
Lalitha | Hi. How do i install ubuntustudio on my ubuntu lucid lynx with all tools and plugins ? | 05:26 |
Lalitha | P.S : I am an absolute beginner. | 05:27 |
holstein | hey Lalitha | 05:27 |
holstein | what are you running now? | 05:27 |
Lalitha | holstein, Hi | 05:27 |
Lalitha | holstein, ubuntu lucid lynx 10.04 | 05:28 |
holstein | OK | 05:28 |
holstein | you can add whatever you want to your current lucid install | 05:28 |
Lalitha | holstein, i just want to record a music that is played in a site. | 05:28 |
holstein | read this | 05:28 |
holstein | !vanilla | Lalitha | 05:28 |
ubottu | Lalitha: To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation | 05:28 |
holstein | Lalitha: you dont have to get all of that though | 05:29 |
Lalitha | holstein, but i don't have vanilla. I have lucid lynx | 05:29 |
holstein | yup | 05:29 |
holstein | thats what that refers to | 05:29 |
holstein | just plain old vanilla ubuntu ) | 05:29 |
holstein | :) | 05:29 |
Lalitha | holstein, Ok. Thanks. | 05:29 |
holstein | not ubuntusutio or kubuntu | 05:29 |
Lalitha | holstein, ok. | 05:29 |
holstein | Lalitha: your wanting to record the audio from a site? | 05:30 |
Lalitha | Lalitha, yes. | 05:30 |
holstein | you might want to just try audacity | 05:30 |
holstein | theres really nothing in ubuntustudio that will make that easier | 05:30 |
Lalitha | Lalitha, to record the audio played by firefox 3.6's plugin. | 05:30 |
Lalitha | holstein, to record the audio played by firefox 3.6's plugin. | 05:30 |
holstein | we have a pretty heavy sound server called JACK | 05:30 |
holstein | and right now | 05:30 |
holstein | that suspends pulse audio | 05:30 |
holstein | that will not allow FF audio to be recorded | 05:31 |
holstein | yet* | 05:31 |
holstein | i would suggest trying audactiy | 05:31 |
Lalitha | holstein, ok. Does audocity record from firefox? | 05:31 |
holstein | or just gnome sound recorder | 05:31 |
Lalitha | holstein, thanks for helping me | 05:31 |
holstein | its going to be an issue of routing | 05:31 |
holstein | and that all depends on your hardware really | 05:32 |
holstein | and how ubuntu interfaces with it | 05:32 |
holstein | i would fire up 'sound preferences' | 05:32 |
Lalitha | holstein, i installed audacity. | 05:32 |
holstein | and look at the switches | 05:32 |
holstein | and sliders | 05:32 |
Lalitha | holstein, sound preferences is in system > admin > ? | 05:33 |
holstein | you can get to it from 'soudn recorder' too | 05:33 |
Lalitha | holstein, in sound preferences icon in task bar ? | 05:33 |
holstein | sure | 05:33 |
Lalitha | holstein, hardware is : internal audio 1out/1in analog stereo duplex | 05:33 |
holstein | yup | 05:34 |
Lalitha | input is "internal audio analog stereo" | 05:34 |
Lalitha | output is ^ | 05:34 |
holstein | your going to have to figure out how to get the output of your sound card to the input of audacity | 05:34 |
holstein | or sound recorder | 05:34 |
Lalitha | holstein, How ? | 05:34 |
holstein | this is the way to go | 05:34 |
holstein | ubuntustudio is really not for this kind of thing | 05:34 |
holstein | not that you shouldnt check it out :) | 05:35 |
holstein | Lalitha: im not sure | 05:35 |
Lalitha | holstein, I must go to #ubuntu ? | 05:35 |
holstein | you'll have to google around for your specific hardware i think | 05:35 |
holstein | Lalitha: try #ubuntu-beginners | 05:35 |
holstein | thats usually a little slower paced | 05:36 |
Lalitha | I asked both in ubuntu and in beginners channels | 05:36 |
Lalitha | holstein, Is there a simple app that just records output in one click ? | 05:37 |
holstein | not from the web like that | 05:37 |
holstein | it could be a copy-right violation | 05:37 |
holstein | but, sound recorder will do it | 05:38 |
holstein | you just have to figuer out how to get whats coming from your speakers to go to your input | 05:38 |
* holstein has never tried | 05:38 | |
holstein | i just create :) | 05:38 |
zus | with audacity i tried to record what was being played through the sound card for captureing streaming music, (like lastfm) but i didnt understand the tutorial enough and it wasnt working for me, how ever you could use a cable that plugs into your headphone and then plug the other end into the mic, and have audacity record that,....didnt have a cable for that either so i cant confirm. but i imagine it should work | 05:42 |
holstein | good call zus | 05:45 |
holstein | that would work | 05:45 |
holstein | should be a software solution though | 05:45 |
* zus nods | 05:45 | |
zus | it just used gnomes default sound recorder through the mic, | 05:46 |
holstein | i wanted to grab an idea real quick earlier | 05:47 |
holstein | and i used the gnome sound recorder to make an ogg | 05:47 |
zus | i got to learn how to cut up an mp3 and move the sections around, | 05:49 |
holstein | audactiy is probaly the easiest way | 05:50 |
holstein | ardour does all that too though | 05:50 |
holstein | can be overkill for editing a little stereo file though | 05:50 |
zus | lol its a movie trailer,... | 05:54 |
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ubufool | how do i update from 10.4 to ubuntustudio? | 08:02 |
zus | ubufool, from ubuntu 10.04? | 08:17 |
ubufool | yes | 08:20 |
zus | you can use synaptic package manager and install the ubuntustudio packages, | 08:21 |
zus | !vanilla | 08:22 |
ubottu | To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation | 08:22 |
zus | ubufool, i just did it myself... :) | 08:23 |
ubufool | yea i tried yesterday, but ran out of space and completely messed up the previous install.. i had to re-install ubuntu just to do anything.. | 08:25 |
ubufool | i feel this is a bug.. it should have attempted to use swap to resume function..not crap out on me... | 08:26 |
ubufool | maybe a furter version will think ahead about running out of hd space and ask to incorporat other partitions or free up sapce =c | 08:27 |
zus | it seemed to me it just added extra applications and themes and what not, i still retained my lucid items,... but then thats why its vanilla, plain old ubuntu withnothing else.... | 08:28 |
ubufool | it installs a real-time kernal and many other multimedia geared apps and modifications..adds 2gb+ to the kernal, includeing media apps | 08:30 |
ubufool | theres probably more i haven't found out about it yet xD | 08:30 |
zus | yeah ya should have seen my ubuntu when i first began,... i had like every music player just to try em all out, i wish i'd known about ubuntustudio before.. | 08:31 |
ubufool | yea me too...plain ubuntu can be slow..it chooses what to handle first etc.. runs stuff in bg... conserves swap ...not exactly performance oriented | 08:33 |
ubufool | i wonder if it even uses all cores available.. | 08:34 |
zus | not too sure, ive been on karmic for 4 months and kubuntu for2 and now this,...its still new to me.. | 08:35 |
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ubufool | same..been around since ubu 8.04 used xubuntu...but still learning how to unlock things and check things.. | 08:36 |
ubufool | linux comands are very new to me... | 08:36 |
ubufool | the caps thing has messed me up numerous times | 08:37 |
ubufool | and i've chmod-x my /home directory once xD it will denied access to everything and pretty much locks whatever isnt already open | 08:38 |
zus | i dont mess with the cli much. | 08:38 |
ubufool | thankfully some leet ubuntu geek gave me a command to run in console to fix it lol | 08:38 |
ubufool | only updated to 10.4 cause it is said that it is more secure? | 08:39 |
zus | it is a very good comminity i tell you that | 08:39 |
zus | in my opinion, everyone one will say that,.. | 08:40 |
zus | 10-10 will be more secure than 10.04,.... | 08:40 |
zus | what got fixed or is new that wasnt around 6 months ago or can be implemented in older releases..? | 08:41 |
ubufool | that and my 8.04 machine made an un authorised ping to my windows pc during a dos attack...i have yet to upgrade that machine tho..it's an old cleron 800mhz.. hp on a cognac board.. so i'm not sure if it will run 10.4 | 08:41 |
zus | how ever,.. i wouldnt take security lightly either | 08:42 |
ubufool | nope never have...i'm thinking about takeing some ethical hacker courses to better protect myself and friends | 08:43 |
ubufool | obviously whatever i knew is no longer good enough.. | 08:44 |
ubufool | the newst exploits and "storm" use linux to attack xp =c | 08:44 |
ubufool | i found out later the "storm" is more then just a ddos attack... | 08:45 |
zus | i dont use windows anymore, really | 08:45 |
ubufool | lol.. i only used it for gameing | 08:46 |
zus | and i have to say i've been quite lucky in my run with windows.- | 08:46 |
ubufool | i thought the attacks originated from KOS but it first breached IE... | 08:47 |
ubufool | which is needed to load the game, and you can't close IE until after the game loads... | 08:47 |
ubufool | lol i disconnected the nic, physically.. and it install PPPOE | 08:47 |
ubufool | XD | 08:48 |
zus | lol ie has always been a magnet for trouble hasnt it | 08:48 |
ubufool | after that i powered down the router...and called my isp...and they said yea,buddy ...who'd you piss off? | 08:48 |
zus | soon as i heard about FF i used it outta curiosity | 08:49 |
ubufool | it wasnt just me...media outlets were also attacked the same way.. glen beck's website was shut down via "storm" poweroutages...w/e the hell "storm" is... it's not good and very very lethal.. | 08:50 |
ubufool | it seemed to of found vulnerabilites in syn packets.. to initiate attacks before IE failed.. | 08:51 |
ubufool | i'm told ubuntu is protected from these kinds of attacks in many ways xD | 08:51 |
zus | hmm? | 08:52 |
zus | when this all occur? | 08:52 |
ubufool | um, maybe 4 days ago..thurs-friday last week...i'd been shut down everyday that week...eventually i could no longer install anti-v or fw's in xp... | 08:53 |
ubufool | so i deleted all permissions in the registry xD and locked myself out..hehe now i need a new xp cd... | 08:54 |
ubufool | but if my favorite games get ported well...i'll stay with ubuntu xD | 08:55 |
ubufool | combat arms is one of my favorite f2p mmo games | 08:56 |
zus | yeah wow is the only game i played,... | 08:56 |
ubufool | xD | 08:56 |
ubufool | metin2 is pretty good too..kinda like wow | 08:56 |
ubufool | free | 08:57 |
ubufool | xD | 08:57 |
zus | id like to try a fps on linux.. | 08:57 |
ubufool | i'm trying to find ways to get game time in wow | 08:57 |
zus | for ubuntu? | 08:57 |
ubufool | tremulous is worth checking out | 08:57 |
ubufool | it is both windows and lnux | 08:57 |
ubufool | i love that hehe | 08:57 |
ubufool | a bit of a leraning curve but very addictive i think | 08:58 |
zus | are these in the repositories? | 08:59 |
ubufool | yes, but the new beta version, which is not required to play.. is available on the website...and needs to be installed manually | 08:59 |
ubufool | most people still play 1.1 | 09:00 |
ubufool | it is very much a work in progres non-the less.. but is very playable...sometimes huge relentless battles xD | 09:00 |
zus | i'd like a good online offline game,,, should see if neverwinternights is able to work | 09:00 |
ubufool | lol, thats a paid to play too isnt it? | 09:01 |
zus | i dont know i only played it offline,....but now that wifi is more popular,... | 09:02 |
ubufool | i've been focusing on free to play for the past year...and promoting the good ones | 09:02 |
ubufool | lol | 09:02 |
zus | runes of magic,....with wine,...i was actually gonna download it but i never got to it | 09:02 |
ubufool | wifi n is good enough for gaming...anything less is pointless | 09:03 |
ubufool | hmm | 09:03 |
ubufool | grr | 09:04 |
zus | most ppl still have g cards from what i understand n slows down to the lowest speed ,...other than the extra range n gets you i wouldnt go for it just yet. | 09:04 |
ubufool | anyone know anything about re-installing an onboard nic? | 09:04 |
ubufool | g card won't go above 54mbps...most do not have dual-band /dual channel....and often don't keep 100% signal strengths | 09:05 |
ubufool | this is what lags out | 09:05 |
ubufool | most online games will not be playable | 09:06 |
ubufool | wifi-n has speeds up to 10gigbytes...are designed for hd media...and constant signal... | 09:06 |
zus | lol usb here im at 54% signal i dont know the speed though,... | 09:07 |
ubufool | wifi-n is more then just range dude | 09:07 |
zus | we've got a n router but everone's laptop has g cards and my pc has the usb key. | 09:08 |
ubufool | i tried to play all kinds of games with wifi-g..even at 100% signal and very low distortion... i was warping everywhere...popping up on people..and it was horrible... | 09:08 |
ubufool | that should be good enough there | 09:08 |
zus | lol untill we update the boxes the n router is a bit of a waste. | 09:08 |
ubufool | the router should keep a great signal and bandwidth... | 09:08 |
ubufool | naw naw.. it'll actually be able to help regardless wifi-n is backward compatable.. and much better equiped to handle media..even if the adapter end is wifi-b/g | 09:09 |
ubufool | it'll actully be able to work on both b and g over the wifi-g adapters... improveing everything... | 09:10 |
ubufool | which is probably why you can game with your wifi xd | 09:11 |
ubufool | i've been able to load multiple wifi-g cards in ubuntu and have them wrk as well.. | 09:12 |
zus | hmmm, prolly so. didnt think of it that way.. | 09:12 |
zus | brb | 09:12 |
ubufool | kk | 09:12 |
zus | ubufool, i had no idea just how late it is... | 09:18 |
ubufool | yea man... | 09:18 |
ubufool | i'm sopposed to beup at 6am lol | 09:19 |
zus | i hate the internets sometimes, they rob you of so much... | 09:19 |
ubufool | lol, it's your pernal responsibility not the internet or game makers lol | 09:19 |
ubufool | or me xD | 09:19 |
zus | not me but i do have a lot to do, and im not an early kinda guy | 09:19 |
ubufool | me neither... | 09:20 |
ubufool | i'ma go to sleep now tho | 09:20 |
zus | aint no ones fault | 09:20 |
ubufool | peaces tttyl | 09:20 |
zus | one minute it's 5pm next dinner then email nextthing you know the alarm is going off and you coffee makers goes on,... | 09:21 |
zus | im outta here too, laters all | 09:21 |
ubufool | how do i check and make sure ubuntu studio is properly installed and configured? | 11:51 |
ubufool | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu < i installed from this | 11:51 |
ubufool | and followed all steps | 11:51 |
ubufool | k i'm back ^^^ | 11:53 |
AutoStatic | ubufool: what is it you'd like to do with Ubuntu Studio? | 12:02 |
ubufool | anything possible xD digital content creation..video, 3d models, animation, sound editing, video editing | 12:03 |
ubufool | game level design..structureal design, schematics... | 12:03 |
ubufool | video must have cpu priorities... | 12:05 |
ubufool | last i checked before ubuntustudio install it had a set latency of 255 =c | 12:05 |
AutoStatic | 255 seconds, hours, milliseconds? ;) | 12:06 |
AutoStatic | And how did you check? | 12:06 |
ubufool | probably nanoseconds...using a program called tweakd? | 12:06 |
ubufool | this is how the os scheduals cpu priority of it's devices... | 12:07 |
AutoStatic | tweakd? never heard of it | 12:07 |
ubufool | in windows i would make video devices 1..nic's 2 audio 3 / 4 most other devices are automatic and variable | 12:07 |
AutoStatic | That's possible with Ubuntu too | 12:08 |
ubufool | i haven't been able to save it yet tho...probably needs to be run as root to do so | 12:09 |
AutoStatic | Save what? What needs to be run as root? | 12:09 |
AutoStatic | Can't find no reference at all on tweakd | 12:10 |
AutoStatic | What is it that you're trying to achieve? | 12:10 |
ubufool | what is ubuntu studio control? | 12:11 |
AutoStatic | It's a tool to set some basic settings | 12:11 |
AutoStatic | Like raw access to Firewire devices | 12:11 |
ubufool | aww digital vibrance glitched... | 12:12 |
AutoStatic | ? | 12:13 |
ubufool | yup..it consistantly glitches... | 12:13 |
AutoStatic | What glitches? | 12:14 |
ubufool | i can't adjust my digital vibrance in nvidia xconfig setting gui... it's glitches and closes | 12:14 |
ubufool | ^nvidia xserver settings^ | 12:14 |
ubufool | nvidia 5500 fx | 12:14 |
AutoStatic | That's something completely different | 12:15 |
AutoStatic | I know close to nothing about configuring nvidia GPU's | 12:15 |
AutoStatic | So I'm sorry, can't help you with that | 12:16 |
ubufool | just letting people know xD | 12:16 |
ubufool | i'll repeat it later xd | 12:16 |
ubufool | and you'll need to use synaptic to get tweaked | 12:23 |
ubufool | oh crap..it's not there? | 12:25 |
ubufool | one downside to updateing to ubu10...we lost 3rd party downloads.... | 12:28 |
ubufool | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu <<>> do i need to restart after i do this? | 12:31 |
ubufool | hey this is niice | 12:53 |
ubufool | still can't adjust digital vibrance tho | 12:53 |
ubufool | it crashes | 12:53 |
ubufool | what would enableing nice do in ubuntu studio controls? | 13:18 |
Blank__ | i think that allows you to change process priorities...? | 13:19 |
* Blank__ doesn't really know | 13:19 | |
AutoStatic | Nice doesn't really do much | 13:29 |
AutoStatic | That's why it's uncommented by default | 13:29 |
AutoStatic | sorry, commented out | 13:30 |
AutoStatic | http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2010-March/067902.html | 13:31 |
AutoStatic | And | 13:31 |
AutoStatic | http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2010-March/067904.html | 13:31 |
AutoStatic | so for audio one should stick to using rtprio | 13:31 |
AutoStatic | not sure about video | 13:31 |
AutoStatic | Guess the same adaggio applies, also because rtprio is the strongest method of the two | 13:32 |
ubufool8 | this already with linux or do i need to d/l it? | 13:33 |
AutoStatic | nice you mean? | 13:33 |
ubufool8 | rtprio...pci latency timeings?? | 13:34 |
AutoStatic | you don't need an actual rtprio program | 13:35 |
AutoStatic | it does exist somewhere, | 13:35 |
AutoStatic | but you don't need it | 13:35 |
AutoStatic | rtprio is part of the kernel scheduler | 13:35 |
ubufool8 | it's sooo nice having a gui to do it tho.. i had one named tweakd... | 13:36 |
AutoStatic | You probably mean Ubuntu Tweak? | 13:39 |
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