[02:14] <_pg_> does anyone here use ubuntu studio for anything other than audio? [02:14] <_pg_> like graphics or video [02:14] <_pg_> or web [02:14] i know they do [02:15] i think the audio guys tend to be in here more often though [02:15] <_pg_> im trying to find out if there is any advantqage over a vanilla ubuntu plus the apps installed after [02:15] nah [02:15] its the same end result [02:15] <_pg_> then what eh hem is the point lol [02:16] the vanilla on is for normal folks [02:16] desktop folks [02:16] <_pg_> or anyone not doing audio= [02:16] and the studio version is for us [02:16] so we dont have to install all the extra packages [02:16] they just come on it [02:17] and its an official distro [02:17] with a nice theme and all that [02:17] but, you end up with the same thing [02:17] <_pg_> holstein: i guess. it just seems like 90% for audio and 10% for everything else [02:17] its getting better [02:17] BUT for a while, thats about how it was [02:17] <_pg_> how so? [02:18] for all opensource software available [02:18] multi-media wise [02:18] about %10 video and graphics [02:18] * zus likes it, and is still downloading his favorite programs that werent included with ubuntustudio nor lucid... [02:19] zus: you can suggest ont he mailing list i would think [02:19] would have been nice if the threw kdenlive in there,...mailing list [02:19] sometimes they just dont get included if they are not stable [02:20] zus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio [02:20] you should have sseen my applications list when i first tried ubuntu... [02:20] the mailing list info is there somewhere [02:20] cant hurt to ask :) [02:21] OH [02:21] bbl [02:21] * holstein gotta run to the store before it closes :) [02:22] i had just about 3 of everything trying what i liked and whathaveyou....the vanilla cut 80% of that in half the hunting for thins that is,.. [02:22] thins= things or should have been.. [02:56] we have a channel for audio [02:57] #opensourcemusicians [02:57] it would be nice to find those kind of channels for video and graphics [02:57] eh [02:57] _pg_ is gone anyways [03:15] holstein, i have heard some sample demos from lmms, i find it a bit too how can i put it "computer-y" not bad though maybe with equipment i can get more natural sound...least i got this far [03:15] zus: try and get [lsd] talking about gear [03:15] over in #opensourcemusicians [03:16] he does VERY nice musical sounding things with sequencers and MIDI [03:16] all in FOSS [03:16] what is lsd? and im in the chan now [05:26] Hi. How do i install ubuntustudio on my ubuntu lucid lynx with all tools and plugins ? [05:27] P.S : I am an absolute beginner. [05:27] hey Lalitha [05:27] what are you running now? [05:27] holstein, Hi [05:28] holstein, ubuntu lucid lynx 10.04 [05:28] OK [05:28] you can add whatever you want to your current lucid install [05:28] holstein, i just want to record a music that is played in a site. [05:28] read this [05:28] !vanilla | Lalitha [05:28] Lalitha: To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation [05:29] Lalitha: you dont have to get all of that though [05:29] holstein, but i don't have vanilla. I have lucid lynx [05:29] yup [05:29] thats what that refers to [05:29] just plain old vanilla ubuntu ) [05:29] :) [05:29] holstein, Ok. Thanks. [05:29] not ubuntusutio or kubuntu [05:29] holstein, ok. [05:30] Lalitha: your wanting to record the audio from a site? [05:30] Lalitha, yes. [05:30] you might want to just try audacity [05:30] theres really nothing in ubuntustudio that will make that easier [05:30] Lalitha, to record the audio played by firefox 3.6's plugin. [05:30] holstein, to record the audio played by firefox 3.6's plugin. [05:30] we have a pretty heavy sound server called JACK [05:30] and right now [05:30] that suspends pulse audio [05:31] that will not allow FF audio to be recorded [05:31] yet* [05:31] i would suggest trying audactiy [05:31] holstein, ok. Does audocity record from firefox? [05:31] or just gnome sound recorder [05:31] holstein, thanks for helping me [05:31] its going to be an issue of routing [05:32] and that all depends on your hardware really [05:32] and how ubuntu interfaces with it [05:32] i would fire up 'sound preferences' [05:32] holstein, i installed audacity. [05:32] and look at the switches [05:32] and sliders [05:33] holstein, sound preferences is in system > admin > ? [05:33] you can get to it from 'soudn recorder' too [05:33] holstein, in sound preferences icon in task bar ? [05:33] sure [05:33] holstein, hardware is : internal audio 1out/1in analog stereo duplex [05:34] yup [05:34] input is "internal audio analog stereo" [05:34] output is ^ [05:34] your going to have to figure out how to get the output of your sound card to the input of audacity [05:34] or sound recorder [05:34] holstein, How ? [05:34] this is the way to go [05:34] ubuntustudio is really not for this kind of thing [05:35] not that you shouldnt check it out :) [05:35] Lalitha: im not sure [05:35] holstein, I must go to #ubuntu ? [05:35] you'll have to google around for your specific hardware i think [05:35] Lalitha: try #ubuntu-beginners [05:36] thats usually a little slower paced [05:36] I asked both in ubuntu and in beginners channels [05:37] holstein, Is there a simple app that just records output in one click ? [05:37] not from the web like that [05:37] it could be a copy-right violation [05:38] but, sound recorder will do it [05:38] you just have to figuer out how to get whats coming from your speakers to go to your input [05:38] * holstein has never tried [05:38] i just create :) [05:42] with audacity i tried to record what was being played through the sound card for captureing streaming music, (like lastfm) but i didnt understand the tutorial enough and it wasnt working for me, how ever you could use a cable that plugs into your headphone and then plug the other end into the mic, and have audacity record that,....didnt have a cable for that either so i cant confirm. but i imagine it should work [05:45] good call zus [05:45] that would work [05:45] should be a software solution though [05:45] * zus nods [05:46] it just used gnomes default sound recorder through the mic, [05:47] i wanted to grab an idea real quick earlier [05:47] and i used the gnome sound recorder to make an ogg [05:49] i got to learn how to cut up an mp3 and move the sections around, [05:50] audactiy is probaly the easiest way [05:50] ardour does all that too though [05:50] can be overkill for editing a little stereo file though [05:54] lol its a movie trailer,... === Dominus is now known as Guest12137 [08:02] how do i update from 10.4 to ubuntustudio? [08:17] ubufool, from ubuntu 10.04? [08:20] yes [08:21] you can use synaptic package manager and install the ubuntustudio packages, [08:22] !vanilla [08:22] To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation [08:23] ubufool, i just did it myself... :) [08:25] yea i tried yesterday, but ran out of space and completely messed up the previous install.. i had to re-install ubuntu just to do anything.. [08:26] i feel this is a bug.. it should have attempted to use swap to resume function..not crap out on me... [08:27] maybe a furter version will think ahead about running out of hd space and ask to incorporat other partitions or free up sapce =c [08:28] it seemed to me it just added extra applications and themes and what not, i still retained my lucid items,... but then thats why its vanilla, plain old ubuntu withnothing else.... [08:30] it installs a real-time kernal and many other multimedia geared apps and modifications..adds 2gb+ to the kernal, includeing media apps [08:30] theres probably more i haven't found out about it yet xD [08:31] yeah ya should have seen my ubuntu when i first began,... i had like every music player just to try em all out, i wish i'd known about ubuntustudio before.. [08:33] yea me too...plain ubuntu can be slow..it chooses what to handle first etc.. runs stuff in bg... conserves swap ...not exactly performance oriented [08:34] i wonder if it even uses all cores available.. [08:35] not too sure, ive been on karmic for 4 months and kubuntu for2 and now this,...its still new to me.. === Dominus is now known as Guest77012 [08:36] same..been around since ubu 8.04 used xubuntu...but still learning how to unlock things and check things.. [08:36] linux comands are very new to me... [08:37] the caps thing has messed me up numerous times [08:38] and i've chmod-x my /home directory once xD it will denied access to everything and pretty much locks whatever isnt already open [08:38] i dont mess with the cli much. [08:38] thankfully some leet ubuntu geek gave me a command to run in console to fix it lol [08:39] only updated to 10.4 cause it is said that it is more secure? [08:39] it is a very good comminity i tell you that [08:40] in my opinion, everyone one will say that,.. [08:40] 10-10 will be more secure than 10.04,.... [08:41] what got fixed or is new that wasnt around 6 months ago or can be implemented in older releases..? [08:41] that and my 8.04 machine made an un authorised ping to my windows pc during a dos attack...i have yet to upgrade that machine tho..it's an old cleron 800mhz.. hp on a cognac board.. so i'm not sure if it will run 10.4 [08:42] how ever,.. i wouldnt take security lightly either [08:43] nope never have...i'm thinking about takeing some ethical hacker courses to better protect myself and friends [08:44] obviously whatever i knew is no longer good enough.. [08:44] the newst exploits and "storm" use linux to attack xp =c [08:45] i found out later the "storm" is more then just a ddos attack... [08:45] i dont use windows anymore, really [08:46] lol.. i only used it for gameing [08:46] and i have to say i've been quite lucky in my run with windows.- [08:47] i thought the attacks originated from KOS but it first breached IE... [08:47] which is needed to load the game, and you can't close IE until after the game loads... [08:47] lol i disconnected the nic, physically.. and it install PPPOE [08:48] XD [08:48] lol ie has always been a magnet for trouble hasnt it [08:48] after that i powered down the router...and called my isp...and they said yea,buddy ...who'd you piss off? [08:49] soon as i heard about FF i used it outta curiosity [08:50] it wasnt just me...media outlets were also attacked the same way.. glen beck's website was shut down via "storm" poweroutages...w/e the hell "storm" is... it's not good and very very lethal.. [08:51] it seemed to of found vulnerabilites in syn packets.. to initiate attacks before IE failed.. [08:51] i'm told ubuntu is protected from these kinds of attacks in many ways xD [08:52] hmm? [08:52] when this all occur? [08:53] um, maybe 4 days ago..thurs-friday last week...i'd been shut down everyday that week...eventually i could no longer install anti-v or fw's in xp... [08:54] so i deleted all permissions in the registry xD and locked myself out..hehe now i need a new xp cd... [08:55] but if my favorite games get ported well...i'll stay with ubuntu xD [08:56] combat arms is one of my favorite f2p mmo games [08:56] yeah wow is the only game i played,... [08:56] xD [08:56] metin2 is pretty good too..kinda like wow [08:57] free [08:57] xD [08:57] id like to try a fps on linux.. [08:57] i'm trying to find ways to get game time in wow [08:57] for ubuntu? [08:57] tremulous is worth checking out [08:57] it is both windows and lnux [08:57] i love that hehe [08:58] a bit of a leraning curve but very addictive i think [08:59] are these in the repositories? [08:59] yes, but the new beta version, which is not required to play.. is available on the website...and needs to be installed manually [09:00] most people still play 1.1 [09:00] it is very much a work in progres non-the less.. but is very playable...sometimes huge relentless battles xD [09:00] i'd like a good online offline game,,, should see if neverwinternights is able to work [09:01] lol, thats a paid to play too isnt it? [09:02] i dont know i only played it offline,....but now that wifi is more popular,... [09:02] i've been focusing on free to play for the past year...and promoting the good ones [09:02] lol [09:02] runes of magic,....with wine,...i was actually gonna download it but i never got to it [09:03] wifi n is good enough for gaming...anything less is pointless [09:03] hmm [09:04] grr [09:04] most ppl still have g cards from what i understand n slows down to the lowest speed ,...other than the extra range n gets you i wouldnt go for it just yet. [09:04] anyone know anything about re-installing an onboard nic? [09:05] g card won't go above 54mbps...most do not have dual-band /dual channel....and often don't keep 100% signal strengths [09:05] this is what lags out [09:06] most online games will not be playable [09:06] wifi-n has speeds up to 10gigbytes...are designed for hd media...and constant signal... [09:07] lol usb here im at 54% signal i dont know the speed though,... [09:07] wifi-n is more then just range dude [09:08] we've got a n router but everone's laptop has g cards and my pc has the usb key. [09:08] i tried to play all kinds of games with wifi-g..even at 100% signal and very low distortion... i was warping everywhere...popping up on people..and it was horrible... [09:08] that should be good enough there [09:08] lol untill we update the boxes the n router is a bit of a waste. [09:08] the router should keep a great signal and bandwidth... [09:09] naw naw.. it'll actually be able to help regardless wifi-n is backward compatable.. and much better equiped to handle media..even if the adapter end is wifi-b/g [09:10] it'll actully be able to work on both b and g over the wifi-g adapters... improveing everything... [09:11] which is probably why you can game with your wifi xd [09:12] i've been able to load multiple wifi-g cards in ubuntu and have them wrk as well.. [09:12] hmmm, prolly so. didnt think of it that way.. [09:12] brb [09:12] kk [09:18] ubufool, i had no idea just how late it is... [09:18] yea man... [09:19] i'm sopposed to beup at 6am lol [09:19] i hate the internets sometimes, they rob you of so much... [09:19] lol, it's your pernal responsibility not the internet or game makers lol [09:19] or me xD [09:19] not me but i do have a lot to do, and im not an early kinda guy [09:20] me neither... [09:20] i'ma go to sleep now tho [09:20] aint no ones fault [09:20] peaces tttyl [09:21] one minute it's 5pm next dinner then email nextthing you know the alarm is going off and you coffee makers goes on,... [09:21] im outta here too, laters all [11:51] how do i check and make sure ubuntu studio is properly installed and configured? [11:51] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu < i installed from this [11:51] and followed all steps [11:53] k i'm back ^^^ [12:02] ubufool: what is it you'd like to do with Ubuntu Studio? [12:03] anything possible xD digital content creation..video, 3d models, animation, sound editing, video editing [12:03] game level design..structureal design, schematics... [12:05] video must have cpu priorities... [12:05] last i checked before ubuntustudio install it had a set latency of 255 =c [12:06] 255 seconds, hours, milliseconds? ;) [12:06] And how did you check? [12:06] probably nanoseconds...using a program called tweakd? [12:07] this is how the os scheduals cpu priority of it's devices... [12:07] tweakd? never heard of it [12:07] in windows i would make video devices 1..nic's 2 audio 3 / 4 most other devices are automatic and variable [12:08] That's possible with Ubuntu too [12:09] i haven't been able to save it yet tho...probably needs to be run as root to do so [12:09] Save what? What needs to be run as root? [12:10] Can't find no reference at all on tweakd [12:10] What is it that you're trying to achieve? [12:11] what is ubuntu studio control? [12:11] It's a tool to set some basic settings [12:11] Like raw access to Firewire devices [12:12] aww digital vibrance glitched... [12:13] ? [12:13] yup..it consistantly glitches... [12:14] What glitches? [12:14] i can't adjust my digital vibrance in nvidia xconfig setting gui... it's glitches and closes [12:14] ^nvidia xserver settings^ [12:14] nvidia 5500 fx [12:15] That's something completely different [12:15] I know close to nothing about configuring nvidia GPU's [12:16] So I'm sorry, can't help you with that [12:16] just letting people know xD [12:16] i'll repeat it later xd [12:23] and you'll need to use synaptic to get tweaked [12:25] oh crap..it's not there? [12:28] one downside to updateing to ubu10...we lost 3rd party downloads.... [12:31] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu <<>> do i need to restart after i do this? [12:53] hey this is niice [12:53] still can't adjust digital vibrance tho [12:53] it crashes [13:18] what would enableing nice do in ubuntu studio controls? [13:19] i think that allows you to change process priorities...? [13:19] * Blank__ doesn't really know [13:29] Nice doesn't really do much [13:29] That's why it's uncommented by default [13:30] sorry, commented out [13:31] http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2010-March/067902.html [13:31] And [13:31] http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2010-March/067904.html [13:31] so for audio one should stick to using rtprio [13:31] not sure about video [13:32] Guess the same adaggio applies, also because rtprio is the strongest method of the two [13:33] this already with linux or do i need to d/l it? [13:33] nice you mean? [13:34] rtprio...pci latency timeings?? [13:35] you don't need an actual rtprio program [13:35] it does exist somewhere, [13:35] but you don't need it [13:35] rtprio is part of the kernel scheduler [13:36] it's sooo nice having a gui to do it tho.. i had one named tweakd... [13:39] You probably mean Ubuntu Tweak?