[02:14] <_pg_> does anyone here use ubuntu studio for anything other than audio?
[02:14] <_pg_> like graphics or video
[02:14] <_pg_> or web
[02:14] <holstein> i know they do
[02:15] <holstein> i think the audio guys tend to be in here more often though
[02:15] <_pg_> im trying to find out if there is any advantqage over a vanilla ubuntu plus the apps installed after
[02:15] <holstein> nah
[02:15] <holstein> its the same end result
[02:15] <_pg_> then what eh hem is the point lol
[02:16] <holstein> the vanilla on is for normal folks
[02:16] <holstein> desktop folks
[02:16] <_pg_> or anyone not doing audio=
[02:16] <holstein> and the studio version is for us
[02:16] <holstein> so we dont have to install all the extra packages
[02:16] <holstein> they just come on it
[02:17] <holstein> and its an official distro
[02:17] <holstein> with a nice theme and all that
[02:17] <holstein> but, you end up with the same thing
[02:17] <_pg_> holstein: i guess. it just seems like 90% for audio and 10% for everything else
[02:17] <holstein> its getting better
[02:17] <holstein> BUT for a while, thats about how it was
[02:17] <_pg_> how so?
[02:18] <holstein> for all opensource software available
[02:18] <holstein> multi-media wise
[02:18] <holstein> about %10 video and graphics
[02:18]  * zus likes it, and is still downloading his favorite programs that werent included with ubuntustudio nor lucid...
[02:19] <holstein> zus: you can suggest ont he mailing list i would think
[02:19] <zus> would have been nice if the threw kdenlive in there,...mailing list
[02:19] <holstein> sometimes they just dont get included if they are not stable
[02:20] <holstein> zus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio
[02:20] <zus> you should have sseen my applications list when i first tried ubuntu...
[02:20] <holstein> the mailing list info is there somewhere
[02:20] <holstein> cant hurt to ask :)
[02:21] <holstein> OH
[02:21] <holstein> bbl
[02:21]  * holstein gotta run to the store before it closes :)
[02:22] <zus> i had just about 3 of everything trying what i liked  and whathaveyou....the vanilla cut 80% of that in half the hunting for thins that is,..
[02:22] <zus> thins= things or should have been..
[02:56] <holstein> we have a channel for audio
[02:57] <holstein> #opensourcemusicians
[02:57] <holstein> it would be nice to find those kind of channels for video and graphics
[02:57] <holstein> eh
[02:57] <holstein> _pg_ is gone anyways
[03:15] <zus> holstein,  i have heard some  sample demos from lmms, i find it a bit too how can i put it "computer-y" not bad though maybe with equipment i can get more natural sound...least i got this far
[03:15] <holstein> zus: try and get [lsd] talking about gear
[03:15] <holstein> over in #opensourcemusicians
[03:16] <holstein> he does VERY nice musical sounding things with sequencers and MIDI
[03:16] <holstein> all in FOSS
[03:16] <zus> what is lsd? and im in the chan now
[05:26] <Lalitha> Hi. How do i install ubuntustudio on my ubuntu lucid lynx with all tools and plugins ?
[05:27] <Lalitha> P.S : I am an absolute beginner.
[05:27] <holstein> hey Lalitha
[05:27] <holstein> what are you running now?
[05:27] <Lalitha> holstein, Hi
[05:28] <Lalitha> holstein, ubuntu lucid lynx 10.04
[05:28] <holstein> OK
[05:28] <holstein> you can add whatever you want to your current lucid install
[05:28] <Lalitha> holstein, i just want to record a music that is played in a site.
[05:28] <holstein> read this
[05:28] <holstein> !vanilla | Lalitha
[05:29] <holstein> Lalitha: you dont have to get all of that though
[05:29] <Lalitha> holstein, but i don't have vanilla. I have lucid lynx
[05:29] <holstein> yup
[05:29] <holstein> thats what that refers to
[05:29] <holstein> just plain old vanilla ubuntu )
[05:29] <holstein> :)
[05:29] <Lalitha> holstein, Ok. Thanks.
[05:29] <holstein> not ubuntusutio or kubuntu
[05:29] <Lalitha> holstein, ok.
[05:30] <holstein> Lalitha: your wanting to record the audio from a site?
[05:30] <Lalitha> Lalitha, yes.
[05:30] <holstein> you might want to just try audacity
[05:30] <holstein> theres really nothing in ubuntustudio that will make that easier
[05:30] <Lalitha> Lalitha, to record the audio played by firefox 3.6's plugin.
[05:30] <Lalitha> holstein,  to record the audio played by firefox 3.6's plugin.
[05:30] <holstein> we have a pretty heavy sound server called JACK
[05:30] <holstein> and right now
[05:30] <holstein> that suspends pulse audio
[05:31] <holstein> that will not allow FF audio to be recorded
[05:31] <holstein> yet*
[05:31] <holstein> i would suggest trying audactiy
[05:31] <Lalitha> holstein, ok. Does audocity record from firefox?
[05:31] <holstein> or just gnome sound recorder
[05:31] <Lalitha> holstein, thanks for helping me
[05:31] <holstein> its going to be an issue of routing
[05:32] <holstein> and that all depends on your hardware really
[05:32] <holstein> and how ubuntu interfaces with it
[05:32] <holstein> i would fire up 'sound preferences'
[05:32] <Lalitha> holstein, i installed audacity.
[05:32] <holstein> and look at the switches
[05:32] <holstein> and sliders
[05:33] <Lalitha> holstein, sound preferences is in system > admin > ?
[05:33] <holstein> you can get to it from 'soudn recorder' too
[05:33] <Lalitha> holstein, in sound preferences icon in task bar ?
[05:33] <holstein> sure
[05:33] <Lalitha> holstein, hardware is : internal audio 1out/1in analog stereo duplex
[05:34] <holstein> yup
[05:34] <Lalitha> input is "internal audio analog stereo"
[05:34] <Lalitha> output is ^
[05:34] <holstein> your going to have to figure out how to get the output of your sound card to the input of audacity
[05:34] <holstein> or sound recorder
[05:34] <Lalitha> holstein,  How ?
[05:34] <holstein> this is the way to go
[05:34] <holstein> ubuntustudio is really not for this kind of thing
[05:35] <holstein> not that you shouldnt check it out :)
[05:35] <holstein> Lalitha: im not sure
[05:35] <Lalitha> holstein, I must go to #ubuntu ?
[05:35] <holstein> you'll have to google around for your specific hardware i think
[05:35] <holstein> Lalitha: try #ubuntu-beginners
[05:36] <holstein> thats usually a little slower paced
[05:36] <Lalitha> I asked both in ubuntu and in beginners channels
[05:37] <Lalitha> holstein, Is there a simple app that just records output in one click ?
[05:37] <holstein> not from the web like that
[05:37] <holstein> it could be a copy-right violation
[05:38] <holstein> but, sound recorder will do it
[05:38] <holstein> you just have to figuer out how to get whats coming from your speakers to go to your input
[05:38]  * holstein has never tried
[05:38] <holstein> i just create :)
[05:42] <zus> with audacity i tried to record what was being  played through the sound card for captureing streaming music, (like lastfm) but i didnt understand the tutorial enough and it wasnt working for me, how ever  you could  use a cable that plugs into your headphone and then plug the other end into the mic, and have audacity record that,....didnt have a cable for that either so i cant confirm. but i imagine it should work
[05:45] <holstein> good call zus
[05:45] <holstein> that would work
[05:45] <holstein> should be a software solution though
[05:45]  * zus nods
[05:46] <zus> it just used gnomes default sound recorder through the mic,
[05:47] <holstein> i wanted to grab an idea real quick earlier
[05:47] <holstein> and i used the gnome sound recorder to make an ogg
[05:49] <zus> i got to learn how to cut up an mp3 and move the sections around,
[05:50] <holstein> audactiy is probaly the easiest way
[05:50] <holstein> ardour does all that too though
[05:50] <holstein> can be overkill for editing a little stereo file though
[05:54] <zus> lol its a movie trailer,...
[08:02] <ubufool> how do i update from 10.4 to ubuntustudio?
[08:17] <zus> ubufool,  from ubuntu 10.04?
[08:20] <ubufool> yes
[08:21] <zus> you can use synaptic package manager and install the ubuntustudio packages,
[08:22] <zus> !vanilla
[08:23] <zus> ubufool,  i just did it myself... :)
[08:25] <ubufool> yea i tried yesterday, but ran out of space and completely messed up the previous install.. i had to re-install ubuntu just to do anything..
[08:26] <ubufool> i feel this is a bug.. it should have attempted to use swap to resume function..not crap out on me...
[08:27] <ubufool> maybe a furter version will think ahead about running out of hd space and ask to incorporat other partitions or free up sapce =c
[08:28] <zus> it seemed to me it just added extra applications and themes and what not, i still retained my lucid items,... but then thats why its vanilla, plain old ubuntu withnothing else....
[08:30] <ubufool> it installs a real-time kernal and many other multimedia geared apps and modifications..adds 2gb+ to the kernal, includeing media apps
[08:30] <ubufool> theres probably more i haven't found out about it yet xD
[08:31] <zus> yeah ya should have seen my ubuntu when i first began,... i had like every music player just to try em all out,  i wish i'd  known about ubuntustudio before..
[08:33] <ubufool> yea me too...plain ubuntu can be slow..it chooses what to handle first etc.. runs stuff in bg... conserves swap ...not exactly performance oriented
[08:34] <ubufool> i wonder if it even uses all cores available..
[08:35] <zus> not too sure, ive been on karmic for 4 months and kubuntu for2 and now this,...its still new to me..
[08:36] <ubufool> same..been around since ubu 8.04 used xubuntu...but still learning how to unlock things and check things..
[08:36] <ubufool> linux comands are very new to me...
[08:37] <ubufool> the caps thing has messed me up numerous times
[08:38] <ubufool> and i've  chmod-x my /home directory once xD it will denied access to everything and pretty much locks whatever isnt already open
[08:38] <zus> i dont mess with the cli  much.
[08:38] <ubufool> thankfully some leet ubuntu geek gave me a command to run in console to fix it lol
[08:39] <ubufool> only updated to 10.4 cause it is said that it is more secure?
[08:39] <zus> it is a very good comminity i tell you that
[08:40] <zus> in my opinion, everyone one will say that,..
[08:40] <zus> 10-10 will be more secure than 10.04,....
[08:41] <zus> what got fixed or is new that wasnt around  6 months ago or can be implemented in older releases..?
[08:41] <ubufool> that and my 8.04 machine made an un authorised ping to my windows pc during a dos attack...i have yet to upgrade that machine tho..it's an old cleron 800mhz.. hp on a cognac board.. so i'm not sure if it will run 10.4
[08:42] <zus> how ever,.. i wouldnt take security lightly either
[08:43] <ubufool> nope never have...i'm thinking about takeing some ethical hacker courses to better protect myself and friends
[08:44] <ubufool> obviously whatever i knew is no longer good enough..
[08:44] <ubufool> the newst exploits and "storm" use linux to attack xp =c
[08:45] <ubufool> i found out later the "storm" is more then just a ddos attack...
[08:45] <zus> i dont use windows anymore, really
[08:46] <ubufool> lol.. i only used it for gameing
[08:46] <zus> and i have to say i've been quite lucky in my run with windows.-
[08:47] <ubufool> i thought the attacks originated from KOS but it first breached IE...
[08:47] <ubufool> which is needed to load the game, and you can't close IE until after the game loads...
[08:47] <ubufool> lol i disconnected the nic, physically.. and it install PPPOE
[08:48] <ubufool> XD
[08:48] <zus> lol ie has always been a magnet for trouble hasnt it
[08:48] <ubufool> after that i powered down the router...and called my isp...and they said yea,buddy ...who'd you piss off?
[08:49] <zus> soon as i heard about FF i used it outta curiosity
[08:50] <ubufool> it wasnt just me...media outlets were also attacked the same way.. glen beck's website was shut down via "storm"  poweroutages...w/e the hell "storm" is... it's not good and very very lethal..
[08:51] <ubufool> it seemed to of found vulnerabilites in syn packets.. to initiate attacks before IE failed..
[08:51] <ubufool> i'm told ubuntu is protected from these kinds of attacks in many ways xD
[08:52] <zus> hmm?
[08:52] <zus> when this all occur?
[08:53] <ubufool> um, maybe 4 days ago..thurs-friday last week...i'd been shut down everyday that week...eventually i could no longer install anti-v or fw's in xp...
[08:54] <ubufool> so i deleted all permissions in the registry xD and locked myself out..hehe now i need a new xp cd...
[08:55] <ubufool> but if my favorite games get ported well...i'll stay with ubuntu xD
[08:56] <ubufool> combat arms is one of my favorite f2p mmo games
[08:56] <zus> yeah wow is the only game i played,...
[08:56] <ubufool> xD
[08:56] <ubufool> metin2 is pretty good too..kinda like wow
[08:57] <ubufool> free
[08:57] <ubufool> xD
[08:57] <zus> id like to try a fps on linux..
[08:57] <ubufool> i'm trying to find ways to get game time in wow
[08:57] <zus> for ubuntu?
[08:57] <ubufool> tremulous is worth checking out
[08:57] <ubufool> it is both windows and lnux
[08:57] <ubufool> i love that hehe
[08:58] <ubufool> a bit of a leraning curve but very addictive i think
[08:59] <zus> are these in the repositories?
[08:59] <ubufool> yes, but the new beta version, which is not required to play.. is available on the website...and needs to be installed manually
[09:00] <ubufool> most people still play 1.1
[09:00] <ubufool> it is very much a work in progres non-the less.. but is very playable...sometimes huge relentless battles xD
[09:00] <zus> i'd like a good online offline game,,, should see if neverwinternights is able to work
[09:01] <ubufool> lol, thats a paid to play too isnt it?
[09:02] <zus> i dont know  i only played it offline,....but now that wifi is more popular,...
[09:02] <ubufool> i've been focusing on free to play for the past year...and promoting the good ones
[09:02] <ubufool> lol
[09:02] <zus> runes of magic,....with wine,...i was actually gonna download it  but i never got to it
[09:03] <ubufool> wifi n is good enough for gaming...anything less is pointless
[09:03] <ubufool> hmm
[09:04] <ubufool> grr
[09:04] <zus> most ppl still have g cards from what i understand  n slows down to the lowest speed ,...other than the extra range n gets you i wouldnt go for it just yet.
[09:04] <ubufool> anyone know anything about re-installing an onboard nic?
[09:05] <ubufool> g card won't go above 54mbps...most do not have dual-band /dual channel....and often don't keep 100% signal strengths
[09:05] <ubufool> this is what lags out
[09:06] <ubufool> most online games will not be playable
[09:06] <ubufool> wifi-n has speeds up to 10gigbytes...are designed for hd media...and constant signal...
[09:07] <zus> lol usb here im at 54% signal i dont know the speed  though,...
[09:07] <ubufool> wifi-n is more then just range dude
[09:08] <zus> we've got a n router but everone's laptop has g cards and my pc has the usb key.
[09:08] <ubufool> i tried to play all kinds of games with wifi-g..even at 100% signal and very low distortion... i was warping everywhere...popping up on people..and it was horrible...
[09:08] <ubufool> that should be good enough there
[09:08] <zus> lol untill we update the boxes the n router is a bit  of a waste.
[09:08] <ubufool> the router should keep a great signal and bandwidth...
[09:09] <ubufool> naw naw.. it'll actually be able to help regardless wifi-n is backward compatable.. and much better equiped to handle media..even if the adapter end is wifi-b/g
[09:10] <ubufool> it'll actully be able to work on both b and g over the wifi-g adapters... improveing everything...
[09:11] <ubufool> which is probably why you can game with your wifi xd
[09:12] <ubufool> i've been able to load multiple wifi-g cards in ubuntu and have them wrk as well..
[09:12] <zus> hmmm, prolly so. didnt think of it that way..
[09:12] <zus> brb
[09:12] <ubufool> kk
[09:18] <zus> ubufool,  i had no idea just how late it is...
[09:18] <ubufool> yea man...
[09:19] <ubufool> i'm sopposed to beup at 6am lol
[09:19] <zus> i hate the internets sometimes, they rob you of so much...
[09:19] <ubufool> lol, it's your pernal responsibility not the internet or game makers lol
[09:19] <ubufool> or me xD
[09:19] <zus> not me but i do have a lot to do, and im not an early kinda guy
[09:20] <ubufool> me neither...
[09:20] <ubufool> i'ma go to sleep now tho
[09:20] <zus> aint no ones fault
[09:20] <ubufool> peaces tttyl
[09:21] <zus> one minute it's 5pm next dinner then email nextthing you know  the alarm is going off and you  coffee makers goes on,...
[09:21] <zus> im outta here too, laters  all
[11:51] <ubufool> how do i check and make sure ubuntu studio is properly installed and configured?
[11:51] <ubufool> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu < i installed from this
[11:51] <ubufool> and followed all steps
[11:53] <ubufool> k i'm back ^^^
[12:02] <AutoStatic> ubufool: what is it you'd like to do with Ubuntu Studio?
[12:03] <ubufool> anything possible xD digital content creation..video, 3d models, animation, sound editing, video editing
[12:03] <ubufool> game level design..structureal design, schematics...
[12:05] <ubufool> video must have cpu priorities...
[12:05] <ubufool> last i checked before ubuntustudio install it had a set latency of 255 =c
[12:06] <AutoStatic> 255 seconds, hours, milliseconds? ;)
[12:06] <AutoStatic> And how did you check?
[12:06] <ubufool> probably nanoseconds...using a program called tweakd?
[12:07] <ubufool> this is how the os scheduals cpu priority of it's devices...
[12:07] <AutoStatic> tweakd? never heard of it
[12:07] <ubufool> in windows i would make video devices 1..nic's 2 audio 3 / 4 most other devices are automatic and variable
[12:08] <AutoStatic> That's possible with Ubuntu too
[12:09] <ubufool> i haven't been able to save it yet tho...probably needs to be run as root to do so
[12:09] <AutoStatic> Save what? What needs to be run as root?
[12:10] <AutoStatic> Can't find no reference at all on tweakd
[12:10] <AutoStatic> What is it that you're trying to achieve?
[12:11] <ubufool> what is ubuntu studio control?
[12:11] <AutoStatic> It's a tool to set some basic settings
[12:11] <AutoStatic> Like raw access to Firewire devices
[12:12] <ubufool> aww digital vibrance glitched...
[12:13] <AutoStatic> ?
[12:13] <ubufool> yup..it consistantly glitches...
[12:14] <AutoStatic> What glitches?
[12:14] <ubufool> i can't adjust my digital vibrance in nvidia xconfig setting gui... it's glitches and closes
[12:14] <ubufool> ^nvidia xserver settings^
[12:14] <ubufool> nvidia 5500 fx
[12:15] <AutoStatic> That's something completely different
[12:15] <AutoStatic> I know close to nothing about configuring nvidia GPU's
[12:16] <AutoStatic> So I'm sorry, can't help you with that
[12:16] <ubufool> just letting people know xD
[12:16] <ubufool> i'll repeat it later xd
[12:23] <ubufool> and you'll need to use synaptic to get tweaked
[12:25] <ubufool> oh crap..it's not there?
[12:28] <ubufool> one downside to updateing to ubu10...we lost 3rd party downloads....
[12:31] <ubufool> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu <<>> do i need to restart after i do this?
[12:53] <ubufool> hey this is niice
[12:53] <ubufool> still can't adjust digital vibrance tho
[12:53] <ubufool> it crashes
[13:18] <ubufool> what would enableing nice do in ubuntu studio controls?
[13:19] <Blank__> i think that allows you to change process priorities...?
[13:19]  * Blank__ doesn't really know
[13:29] <AutoStatic> Nice doesn't really do much
[13:29] <AutoStatic> That's why it's uncommented by default
[13:30] <AutoStatic> sorry, commented out
[13:31] <AutoStatic> http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2010-March/067902.html
[13:31] <AutoStatic> And
[13:31] <AutoStatic> http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2010-March/067904.html
[13:31] <AutoStatic> so for audio one should stick to using rtprio
[13:31] <AutoStatic> not sure about video
[13:32] <AutoStatic> Guess the same adaggio applies, also because rtprio is the strongest method of the two
[13:33] <ubufool8> this already with linux or do i need to d/l it?
[13:33] <AutoStatic> nice you mean?
[13:34] <ubufool8> rtprio...pci latency timeings??
[13:35] <AutoStatic> you don't need an actual rtprio program
[13:35] <AutoStatic> it does exist somewhere,
[13:35] <AutoStatic> but you don't need it
[13:35] <AutoStatic> rtprio is part of the kernel scheduler
[13:36] <ubufool8> it's sooo nice having a gui to do it tho.. i had one named tweakd...
[13:39] <AutoStatic> You probably mean Ubuntu Tweak?