[00:09] <gustavo__> ?
[00:11] <Ezros> Hey everyone, can someone help me get my games to work on Kubuntu?
[00:11] <Ezros> O
[00:11] <Ezros> I'm trying to play Heroes of Newerth and it won't load.
[00:11] <Ezros> Well, it loaded once and then it crashed
[00:11] <Ezros> And now it just won't load
[00:11] <Ezros> Super laggy
[00:12] <murky> interprice
[00:13] <murky> 9.10 server on muysql
[00:27] <Ezros> Can someone help me do this: Linux Supp: Also add glxinfo, uname -a, /etc/X11/xorg.conf ( glxinfo | grep -i "opengl\|direct\|server\|client"; lspci | grep -i vga; uname -a for summary)
[00:38] <Cay> Hey guys!
[00:39] <Cay> I just bought a Sony Vaio VPCF127FX and tried slapping ubuntu on it, all was well and file except I couldn't do multi-monitor and my touchpad didn't work. That was till I decided to install the nvidia drivers, now I cannot get video to display on my laptop :(
[00:39] <Cay> hap hap
[01:14] <TN-048> Anyone know of a keyboard status applet that accually works?
[01:22] <H2OyJaBoN> hello!
[01:38] <QpSmiley> I am running Kubuntu 64 bit, how do I install 32bit chrome?
[01:39] <Typos_King> QpSmiley:    I'd think you'd just simply install it the same way any other app :)
[01:40] <QpSmiley> When I get the chrome 32bit .deb package it says wrong architecture i386
[01:40] <QpSmiley> (I'm a linux noobie :D_
[01:42] <Typos_King> do they have a 64bit .deb?
[01:42] <QpSmiley> yes but there is no 64 bit flash player
[01:42] <QpSmiley> =[
[01:44] <Typos_King> QpSmiley:     any 32bit app should be able to run just fine on a 64bit hardware, there's backward compatibility, soooo, you should be able to install chrome 32bit anyway, using dpkg -i PACKAGENAME;, however, you should also be able to just use the 32bit libflashplayer.so as well
[01:45] <QpSmiley> will 32bit flash player work in a 64bit browser?
[01:46] <QpSmiley> so i sudo cd to my directory
[01:46] <Typos_King> should, sure
[01:46] <QpSmiley> and then dpkg -i chrome-install.deb
[01:46] <Typos_King> yes, don't forget to 'sudo' :)
[01:49] <QpSmiley> is cd the thing that moves you between directories
[01:50] <Typos_King> yes
[01:50] <Typos_King> you can just launch Dolphin and use that
[01:51] <QpSmiley> i dont understand
[01:51] <QpSmiley> nvm
[01:52] <QpSmiley> I understand
[01:52] <Typos_King> Dolphin, is the file manager
[01:53] <QpSmiley> it says  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[01:53] <tsimpson> you need to use "sudo dpkg --force-architecture -i ..." to install a 32bit package in a 64bit system
[01:54] <Typos_King> QpSmiley:     yeah, tsimpson  is correct, so ^
[01:55] <QpSmiley> okay lets see if that worked brb
[01:57] <QpSmiley> can you say the force architecture command again
[01:57] <QpSmiley> sorry xD
[01:59] <Typos_King> sudo dpkg --force-architecture -i PACKAGENAME
[02:34] <Pavel_10> can anyone teach me how to find a crash log?
[02:56] <DarthFrog> Pavel_10: Check /var/log
[06:42] <CQ> hello, I just upgraded from karmic to lucid, and now my home server is stuck at the moving dots screen at bootup... no prompt, no errors on the alt-f1 console, same for older kernels ... any ideas?
[06:57] <DarthFrog> Try booting into recovery mode and see if any errors are reported.
[07:06] <CQ> no errors, I'm in an old debian partition though so I can probably do maintenance
[07:09] <CharlesOberg> I have a question, and yes I am ignorant as I am not PC savvy.
[07:09] <CharlesOberg> Is there a Kubuntu Manual I can download somewhere so I can learn more about before Iload Kubuntu to my old PC?
[07:14] <CQ> CharlesOberg: the best way to do it if you don't need anything on the old pc is to just install it.... else use http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ to install a live distro to a USB stick and test it first
[07:15] <CharlesOberg> That is an awesome idea.
[07:15] <CharlesOberg> I will try the stick first, just to mesh it out.
[07:15] <CharlesOberg> I am ready to throw Winblows out the window.
[07:17] <CQ> CharlesOberg: what you can do is install virtualbox and run windows in a virtual machine... really easy, and you do need ot for some tools I've found
[07:18] <CQ> CharlesOberg: best of both worlds that way
[07:19] <CharlesOberg> Ah, okay.I am looking up virtualbox right now.
[07:31] <ar> hello all
[08:50] <h4nnibal> Hai! all, I have installed many useful apps and configured it well.I would like to make a Live CD/DVD for my current installation.Is there any script that automates the process?
[08:50] <h4nnibal> Please help.
[08:53] <tsimpson> !customlivecd | h4nnibal
[09:02] <ofirk> Are there any major differences between the CD image and DVD image?
[09:04] <tsimpson> ofirk: the DVD image has both the live installer and the alternate installer
[09:04] <tsimpson> that's about it
[09:05] <ofirk> tsimpson: I read a post on ubuntuforums says that the DVD as all main on it so you don;t need an internet connection while installing...
[09:05] <ofirk> so there are 2 benefits to the DVD
[09:05] <tsimpson> you don't need a internet connection when installing from the CD either
[09:05] <tsimpson> and no, it does not have all of main on it
[09:05] <tsimpson> you read a post from someone who is misinformed
[09:06] <ofirk> so there is 1 benefit...
[09:06] <ofirk> I am working on the new download page for kubuntu.org
[09:06] <ofirk> and I am trying to explain way we offer a DVD
[09:06] <tsimpson> the only benefit while installing is that you have the option to use the live installer, or the alternate installer
[09:06] <tsimpson> it also has the core packages needed (usable by apt-get) on the DVD
[09:07] <tsimpson> so you can use it for some packages when you don't have an internet connection
[09:07] <ofirk> It seems that avg. users won't understand the differences...
[09:08] <ofirk> I think I will just point to the images with no explanations to avoid confusion
[09:08] <ofirk> tsimpson: what do you think?
[09:08] <h4nnibal> ubottu: Thanks for your help.
[09:09] <tsimpson> ofirk: just mention that it combines the Live install and alternate install I guess
[09:09] <ofirk> tsimpson: yeah, thanks for your time!
[09:09] <tsimpson> :)
[09:51] <[ade]> moinmoin. i'm trying to set up dual-head in kubuntu 10.04. using systemsettings, I can get the layout right, but this isn't preserved across reboots -- after a reboot i'm back to cloned monitors. is there a way of making the dual-head setup persistent (short of just writing an /etc/X11/xorg.conf -- I know i can bang it into shape that way)
[09:57] <apparle> hello guys
[09:59] <apparle> I am able to connect with my BSNL EV-DO USB modem with wvdial, but how to connect using knetworkmanager
[11:37] <CQ> hello, i just upgraded to lucid and the system hangs permanently at the startup screen with the logo and white dots... no consoles or error messages on teh other terminals, ctrl-alt-del reboots so the kernel isn't hung....
[11:38] <CQ> i have a live dist booted so I can edit config files etc.
[11:50] <[ade]> CQ: i had something like that just today where i had messed up xorg.conf, so no display or anything. when the machine is up, can you ping it or ssh in to it? that'd give you access to the logfiles and dmsg of the running system.
[11:50] <CQ> [ade]: I get no login prompt on any text consoles....
[11:51] <[ade]> obviously ping or ssh would only work if you have another machine on the same network, yeah.
[11:51] <CQ> ssh is not the problem, the problem is that logins aren't enabled yet, even with the recovery boot at that time
[12:04] <CQ> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ureadahead/+bug/523484 this was the problem....
[12:07] <apparle> CQ: you could boot with quiet and splash removed so that you can see the boot messages
[12:09] <CQ> apparle: ureadahead in /var on a separate filesystem is the problem...
[12:10] <apparle> CQ: I don't understand that
[12:32] <lumm> someone ever got the remote for vlc working with iphone ?
[12:33] <lumm> http://hobbyistsoftware.com/VLCSetup-linux.php according to this setup. my phone claims that there is vlc running but it cant axs it.
[12:37] <lumm> got it to work now ;)
[13:29] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[13:38] <evilsherpa> hey all, should gnome-system-monitor be running, and should it be using 90%+ of my cpu?
[13:58] <Torch> evilsherpa: no and no ;-)
[14:18] <pinoyoragon> wicd 1.7.0 doesn't work in wired on kubuntu 10.04 any help please?
[14:24] <BluesKaj> pinoyoragon, does network manager work (knetworkmanager)
[14:26] <pinoyoragon> BluesKaj: i removed it because its inconsistent and most of the time doesnt work in wifi, im an avid fan of wicd but when i upgraded my system to 10.04 and installed wicd 1.7.0 suddenly i cant connect to wired
[14:36] <BluesKaj> pinoyoragon, ok , what we should try is to use a purist approach , no guis just settings in /etc/network/interfaces, you'll need to diable wicd for this to work. http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[14:37] <BluesKaj> err disable wicd
[14:38] <BluesKaj> pinoyoragon_, i use this setup on 2 ethernet connected linuxboxes without any probs
[14:51] <odla> can the kubuntu iso be dd on to a usb?
[14:53] <ArGGu^^> odla you want to boot the kubuntu install from usb?
[14:53] <ArGGu^^> *installer
[14:54] <odla> ArGGu^^: yup ... i could use unetbootin but i prefer dd ... if it isn't an option i'll use unetbootin
[14:54] <howlymowly> hi.. i just wanted to ask..  in the kubuntu 10.04 pre-release version there was a program, i think its name was: "playmouth-set-theme" , to change the plymouth theme... seems like it is gone since the LTS version was released..  is it possible to change the plamouth bootloader theme somehow?
[14:55] <howlymowly> *plymouth
[14:55] <ArGGu^^> odla never tried but it might work
[14:55] <BluesKaj> !plymouth
[14:56] <BluesKaj> !info plymouth
[14:58] <ArGGu^^> odla I mean that dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/usbstick. Might work.
[14:58] <howlymowly> odla: that's easy... just use the program "usb-creator"
[14:59] <ArGGu^^> but unetbootin will definitely work
[14:59] <BluesKaj> howlymowly, dunno there may be different themes , but I don't see it unril I shut down , you can change the lofin manager look and splashscreens in system settings
[14:59] <howlymowly> there exist versions for kde and gtk:  usb-creator-kde, usb-creator-gtk
[15:00] <howlymowly> odla: usb-creator-kde  is available via packet manager
[15:00] <howlymowly> BluesKaj: that's right.. but plymouthg is not about the login manager.. its about the bootsplach directly after grub
[15:01] <BluesKaj> howlymowly, I don't see the bootsplash on mine ..
[15:02] <BluesKaj> just the login
[15:02] <howlymowly> odla: usb-creator takes an iso loads it onto an usb deivce and makes that device bootable.. ..  fits for almost all linux live cds
[15:02] <howlymowly> BluesKaj: why is that :)?
[15:03] <BluesKaj> howlymowly, good question, but I think the login theme might take over from it if it's not default , but different
[15:03] <howlymowly> BluesKaj: well.. it doesn't on my computer :) .. but that isn#t such a bad idea anyway.. i'll look on google how to disable plymouth boot manager...
[15:03] <BluesKaj> howlymowly, at least that's what I'm seing anyway
[15:04] <BluesKaj> plymouth isn'treally a manager
[15:04] <skamster> hello all.. i've got some problems with xorg..
[15:05] <skamster> i've installed a second screen, what works, but xorg is now very very fast on 100%
[15:05] <skamster> i've the 256.35-driver for my nvidia-card
[15:06] <skamster> and as graphiccard a quadro fx 1600m
[15:06] <skamster> i also used the repo-drivers first..
[15:09] <skamster> hope, someone could help me..
[15:10] <skamster> this is my xorg.conf
[15:10] <skamster> http://pastebin.com/neYZ8BtJ
[15:17] <slow-motion> hi
[15:22] <skamster> no one here who knows xorg?
[15:30] <ToxinPowe> skamster: nop, I have dual screen and nvidia 195, sry
[15:31] <skamster> and it works good?
[15:31] <ToxinPowe> yes
[15:31] <ToxinPowe> 8600GT
[15:31] <skamster> mmh..
[15:32] <skamster> strange.. i don't think that my card should be so slow..
[15:32] <ToxinPowe> of course not =)
[15:33] <BluesKaj> skamster, check your framerate with glxgears , with your card it should up around 15k in 5 secs
[15:34] <BluesKaj> full screeen should still be around 3-4k
[15:35] <ToxinPowe> apt-get install mesa-utils for glxgears =)
[15:36] <skamster> Result in initialscreen: 46457 frames in 5.0 seconds
[15:36] <skamster> and in fullscreen: 3949 frames in 5.0 seconds
[15:36] <skamster> (a average)
[15:37] <skamster> isn't glxgears in the nvidia-sw? ;)
[15:37] <ToxinPowe> nop
[15:37] <skamster> ok.. then i learned something new today :D
[15:39] <skamster> BluesKaj: so i think, this result is normal.. but not the cpu-usage on normal (2d) working
[15:39] <skamster> :s
[15:42] <skamster> ah, i've seen, that one of my cpu-cores is down on 800Mhz..
[15:42] <skamster> but it shouldn't.. maybe..?
[15:51] <duster1959> 256 users
[16:21] <duster1959> is any people here
[16:26] <Quintasan> duster1959: if you have a question just ask it, ppl sit here all the time so someone will answer it
[16:27] <duster1959> oke, how to insert nick by button
[16:27] <duster1959> in quassel
[16:29] <Hazamonzo> Hey folks. ATI support for kubuntu still pretty poor? Or is it just me? I have a pretty new card and have problems with both the flgrx and radeon HD drivers :(
[16:30] <Hazamonzo> I found this thread and its the same card as i have. As you can see the last post says the card is working correctly as of.,.. April 15th
[16:31] <Hazamonzo> I have thr flgrx drivers installed already. And i update my system everytime im prompted. Should i have the latest and greatest flgrx drivers?
[16:51] <BluesKaj> Hazamonzo, just give thanks that your fglrx drivers are still working properly :)
[16:52] <Hazamonzo> BluesKaj: Heheh. define "properly"?
[16:53] <BluesKaj> uhm, not crashing to a black creen and blinking cursor :)
[16:54] <Hazamonzo> BluesKaj: Ouch
[16:57] <BluesKaj> my box with ati onboard x200m is running W7 , ..very poor graphics on lucis
[16:57] <BluesKaj> err lucid
[16:58] <BluesKaj> the other computers have nvidia graphics, one with an old 7600gt which still serves as a media server in the TV room
[17:23] <Kuwanger> avihay: Good news (and bad news).  I suffered the same problem again.  And I think I know the cause.
[17:24] <Kuwanger> avihay: I think the problem is linked to ureadahead.  I say this because I had the same problem again after uninstalling avahi-daemon and samba.  Those, I believe, change /etc/init[.d]/ and cause a rescan to occur.
[17:24] <Kuwanger> avihay: Having said that, I'm looking over the ps listing.  As far as I can tell, the missing memory isn't in processes.  Perhaps it was in shared memory?
[17:26] <Kuwanger> I think I'll reinstall avahi-daemon and restart and use ipcs to get shared memory information.
[17:27] <Kuwanger> Any other ideas on where to look for possible memory usage?
[17:29] <Kuwanger> bbs
[17:32] <naigi> ...
[17:35] <Kuwanger> Yep, reinstalling avahi-daemon caused it to happen again.  Unfortunately, the leak isn't in shared memory. :/
[17:46] <Kuwanger> I also found a bug report matching my problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ureadahead/+bug/501715
[17:50]  * Kuwanger sees if the shrinking the tracing buffer trick works.
[17:55] <Kuwanger> Well, that was it.  And I was able to reset the tracing buffer size.
[17:56] <Kuwanger> Though, /var/lib/ureadahead/debugfs is still seemingly mounted.
[17:59] <odla> how can i create a bootable live usb? i've tried dd but that doesn't seem to work
[18:01] <bazhang> odla, unetbootin
[18:01] <odla> bazhang: unetbootin doesn't seem to work ... it says unetbootin when i reboot then the screen is blank
[18:02] <bazhang> odla, then it was a bad 'burn' ; sometimes takes me a couple of tries to get it right
[18:05] <36DAASUXO> does anyone have any idea when 4.5RC1 will packets will be released?
[18:05] <avihay> Kuwanger: Well, good work, the launchpad bug page is already full with discussions, looks like you were also right on the money
[18:05]  * Kuwanger is going to see how much ureadhead helps.
[18:06] <Kuwanger> avihay: Shame it's some obtuse kernel setting, though.  That just makes it harder to diagnose. :/
[18:06] <Kuwanger> Well, thanks for letting me rant.  At least now I know of a workaround.
[18:37] <Kuwanger> Well, playing around with bootchart and ureadahead as suggested by one of the people who worked on it...I've discovered that ureadahead doesn't help my startup time at all.
[18:49] <ragnarok_> Anyone here?
[18:49] <DarthFrog> nobody but us chickens.
[18:51] <ragnarok_> Any ideas as to why kubuntu wont recognise my monitors max resolution?
[18:51] <DarthFrog> Perhaps your video driver doesn't support that rez?
[18:53] <ragnarok_> >.>
[18:54] <DarthFrog> The new way that X is configured is great when it gets it right.  But it can be ... difficult when it gets it wrong.
[18:55] <DarthFrog> To get the max rez, if it isn't autodetected, might well involve you having to set the modeline manually in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[18:55] <ragnarok_> not only is the resolution smal, but everything looks ugly
[18:55] <ragnarok_> fonts look kinda blurry
[18:55] <DarthFrog> What video card do you have?
[18:56] <ragnarok_> uhm
[18:56] <ragnarok_> h/o
[18:57] <ragnarok_>  Graphics:  Card nVidia NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] X.Org 1.7.6 Res: 1024x768@0.0hz
[18:57] <ragnarok_> works almost fine with gnome
[18:57] <ragnarok_> at least when i dont have the propritary driver enabled
[18:57] <DarthFrog> And what driver are you using now?
[18:58]  * ragnarok_ Shrugs
[18:58] <ragnarok_> just installed kubuntu-desktop from gnome
[18:59] <DarthFrog> Then it's not a KDE vs. GNOME issue.
[19:00] <ragnarok_> Any ideas on what to do?
[19:00] <DarthFrog> Try setting the rez using krandr.
[19:01] <DarthFrog> or SystemSettings.
[19:01] <ragnarok_> it show the max resolution as 1024x768 no matter what i do
[19:01] <DarthFrog> then it's a limitation of the video driver.
[19:02] <ragnarok_> heh
[19:02] <ragnarok_> any way to check what driver im using?
[19:03] <DarthFrog> Yeah.  Scan /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:05] <ragnarok_>  heh
[19:05] <ragnarok_> what exactly am i looking for
[19:05] <ragnarok_> text is really hard to read
[19:07] <DarthFrog> One of the load module lines will be the video driver.  look for "Module class: X.Org Video Driver"
[19:09] <ragnarok_> ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0
[19:09] <ragnarok_> (II) LoadModule: "nv"
[19:09] <ragnarok_> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nv_drv.so
[19:09] <ragnarok_> (II) Module nv: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[19:09] <FloodBotK1> ragnarok_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:10] <DarthFrog> The floodbot will ban you if you do that again.
[19:10] <DarthFrog> You have the open-source 2D driver.
[19:10] <ragnarok_> yeah i noticed
[19:10] <ragnarok_> >.>
[19:11] <ragnarok_> heh
[19:11] <ragnarok_> i need to reboot but cant for like an hour
[19:11] <DarthFrog> You could try the open-source 3D driver, nouveau. (which doesn't work) or the prop. nvidia drivers.
[19:11] <DarthFrog> !nvidia | ragnarok_
[19:11] <ragnarok_> heh
[19:11] <ragnarok_> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so
[19:13] <ragnarok_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/455110/
[19:13] <lamozx> всем привет. тут помогают нубам?)
[19:13] <DarthFrog> !ru | lamozx
[19:14] <lamozx> oh, sorry)
[19:14] <[Screamo]> heh
[19:15] <DarthFrog> I wonder what that actually says?  :-)
[19:16] <[Screamo]> lol
[19:16] <[Screamo]> DarthFrog, did you look at that link i posted?
[19:16] <DarthFrog> Who are you??
[19:16] <[Screamo]> erm
[19:17] <[Screamo]> the guy with vid driver issue
[19:17] <[Screamo]> dont remeberwhatmy nick was
[19:17] <DarthFrog> Ah.  You were ragnarok_?
[19:17] <[Screamo]> and my space bar isnt workingcorrectly
[19:18] <[Screamo]> oh yeah
[19:18] <DarthFrog> In which case, you are using the nouveau driver and that is likely the source of your problem.
[19:18] <[Screamo]> heh
[19:18] <[Screamo]> how do i switch
[19:18] <DarthFrog> So, if it were me, I'd "sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau" and reboot.
[19:19] <DarthFrog> And cross my fingers. ;-)
[19:19] <[Screamo]> heh
[19:19] <[Screamo]> bbl
[19:19] <DarthFrog> Actually, that's not all I'd do.  I'd configure the xorg.conf file to use the nv driver.
[19:24] <[Screamo]> heh
[19:24] <DarthFrog> So did it work?
[19:24] <[Screamo]> got my resolution back :D
[19:24] <[Screamo]> didnt have to remove thr drivers
[19:24] <[Screamo]> well
[19:25] <[Screamo]> i removed the prop drivers from gnome, then installed kubuntu-desktop, then switched without rebooting
[19:31] <cuco> when i run the Users and Groups Administration the GUI has no option to modify the users. I assume running it using "sudo" will work, but how can I get privilegies from the GUI?
[19:33] <DarthFrog> As a work around, press ALT-F2 and type "kdesu systemsettings".
[19:33] <cuco> DarthFrog: I assume there is a bug open about this issue?
[19:33] <DarthFrog> I have no idea.  And it's perhaps not a bug so much as a missing feature. :-)
[19:34] <cuco> arg... if I click on the icon in system-settings, it does ask for a password
[19:34] <cuco> if I run it manually it does not. nice.
[20:06] <Whisky`> KBluetooth was greyed out so I quit it, how do I start it again?
[20:24] <Whisky`> ?
[20:25] <Quintasan> Whisky`: go to Menu -> Internet -> KBluetooh
[20:25] <Quintasan> Whisky`: or just press ALT+F2 and type kbluetooth there
[20:26] <Whisky`> thanks Quintasan  :)
[20:26] <Quintasan> Whisky`: no problem :D
[21:12] <anthony_> hi
[21:13] <anthony_> fr ? i have a probleme ?
[21:20] <BluesKaj> !fr | anthony
[21:22] <c3l> why doesnent wine in kubuntu have EsounD Drive?
[21:22] <c3l> it does in ubuntu
[21:35] <ZidaneT> Hi guys, quick question.  how does quassel measure up against xchat?  i'm a long term user of xchat, and noticed the shiny quassel client came installed by default.
[21:39] <ZidaneT> uh-oh, too late, time to restart for updates. :)
[22:07] <c3l> why doesnent wine in kubuntu have EsounD Drive?
[22:07] <c3l> as sound driver
[22:41] <ricardo_> oi
[22:49] <[Screamo]> Why is there no clock on the panel =/
[22:56] <c3l> why doesnent wine in kubuntu have EsounD Drive as sound drive??
[23:06] <Nerran> Hi guys, is there a way to disable the auto reopening of all programs which were open at shutdown?
[23:06] <[Screamo]> Nerran, Yes, hold on a sec
[23:08] <avihay> Nerran: system settings -> advanced tab -> session manager
[23:09] <[Screamo]> Nerran, Menu> Computer> System Settings> Advanced tab> session manager
[23:09] <[Screamo]> damn it
[23:09] <[Screamo]> >.>
[23:09] <Nerran> ah thanks :)
[23:09] <[Screamo]> Lag =/
[23:09] <avihay> [Screamo]: it got removed somehow and you can just ad a new one
[23:09] <avihay> :->
[23:09] <avihay> ad->add
[23:09] <[Screamo]> yeah but it would not let me add another one
[23:09] <avihay> then tell it to remove the old one?
[23:10] <avihay> ok, I don't see how
[23:10] <[Screamo]> the old one wasnt there =/
[23:11] <avihay> ok, is your panle locked?
[23:11] <[Screamo]> No
[23:11] <[Screamo]> i should mention i figured it out
[23:12] <avihay> double click, right?
[23:12] <[Screamo]> the panel ended up crashing and restarting
[23:12] <[Screamo]> then it let me add it
[23:13] <avihay> well, chalk it up to great software engineering!
[23:14] <[Screamo]> =/
[23:15] <[Screamo]> that would make the 3rd time in one hour the panel crashed
[23:18] <avihay> mine crashes on average once a month
[23:21] <[Screamo]> gnome panel never crashes on me =/
[23:21] <Torch> on me neither.
[23:21] <Torch> never use it.
[23:21] <avihay> :->
[23:22] <Torch> kde4 doesn't even have a panel process that could crash
[23:38] <makerprofaze> hi all
[23:39] <makerprofaze> can someone tell/point me the way to make direct panel widgets/shortcuts that open folder windows?
[23:39] <makerprofaze> (to panels)
[23:39] <makerprofaze> (plasma panels)
[23:40] <luix182> hola
[23:40] <luix182> hi?
[23:41] <makerprofaze> I hit add widgets, drag icons from app launch menu, then change icon settings/application/command then go back and change icon/delete supported file types
[23:41] <makerprofaze> howdy luix182
[23:41] <luix182> amm any speak spanish??
[23:41] <makerprofaze> if anyone knows a faster way, do tell
[23:42] <makerprofaze> It seems I'll have to do this for anything that doesn't actually show up in the application launch menu
[23:42] <luix182> uuhhmm
[23:43] <luix182> bye xD
[23:44] <slow-motion> n8
[23:51] <makerprofaze> is this actually kde/plasma/dolphin or kubuntu related?
[23:53] <makerprofaze> hhmm...