/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/06/25/#ubuntu-ops.txt

bazhangheads up on georgij00:08
bazhanghe's an incessant troll in multiple channels00:18
niko|littlebear| [~|littlebe@CPE00045adf0380-CM0012c99a372c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] seems to have a broken client00:44
IdleOneI don't remember what channel we forward to00:46
niko##fix_your_connection00:46
nikois a good target00:47
IdleOnethank you00:47
IdleOneseems alright now00:47
bazhangnerdy_kid, hi01:43
nerdy_kidsry quassel auto joined me to the channel01:44
IdleOnehmm odd01:44
bazhangrazernok?01:46
ubottuiceroot called the ops in #ubuntu (Razernok)02:11
ubottudominicdinada called the ops in #ubuntu (Razernok)02:14
IdleOneRazernok: I apologize for having had to kick/forward you here02:16
IdleOneRazernok: I apologize for having had to kick/forward you here02:16
Razernokstop this rude ass shit02:17
IdleOnebut I need to speak with you and I hope you will be willing to listen02:17
IdleOneRazernok: first off. Please watch the language02:17
RazernokI'm only on here for help which no one has yet to provide02:17
IdleOneI am speaking to you politely, no need to curse02:17
IdleOneRazernok: I understand that and I am trying to help you get the help you need02:17
IdleOneare you willing to talk calmly?02:18
Razernokthey haven't once helped02:18
IdleOneRazernok: let's forget about what was said and done before, let's take it from this point on ok02:18
Razernokw/e02:18
Razernokjerks never change anyways02:19
IdleOneI believe that if you join #mysql and state your issue they will be able to help you02:19
IdleOnebut your attitude needs some serious readjusting02:19
Razernokits a linux problem not windows02:19
IdleOneRazernok: if you arte not willing to try and help yourself then nobody is going to be able to help02:20
IdleOnearen't*02:20
Razernokall i asked was to allow my other network computer the ability to remotely connect to mysql02:20
IdleOneand iceroot was trying to help but you did not seem to be paying attention to what he was telling you02:21
Razernokand they have to be jerks from the start and provide no help02:21
IdleOnethe only person I saw being a "jerk" was you to be honest.02:21
IdleOne3 people at least tried to guide you, asked you questions about your setup and asked more then once. You ignored them and kept repeating I'm lost02:22
Razernoksimple to help without being mean, did they try that? no02:22
IdleOneyes they did02:22
IdleOneRazernok: I need you to Please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines and  http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/02:23
IdleOnethose two links will explain what we expect from every user who joins Ubuntu irc channels02:24
IdleOneI also still think your best bet for help is #mysql but I assure you they will not tolerate a bad attitude any more then we will in #ubuntu02:25
Razernokits a linux system not windows02:25
IdleOnewhat does windows have to do with mysql?02:26
Razernokas the system is linux02:26
IdleOneRazernok: you are just not trying to help yourself. I am not going to be able to lift the ban in #ubuntu until you agree to respect guidelines and the code of conduct02:27
RazernokI have been02:27
RazernokI'm not rude, they are rude towards me02:28
IdleOneRazernok: join #mysql02:28
IdleOneask them politely02:28
IdleOneand be patient02:28
Razernokmy system is linux not windows02:28
IdleOnefine02:28
IdleOnedon't try asking them.02:28
Razernokso going to a windows based help room does me no good02:29
IdleOneban stays, you can come back here in 24 hours to discuss the removal02:29
IdleOneRazernok: Please part the channel and return in 24 hours to discuss the removal of your ban. Thank you02:30
IdleOneRazernok: Just FYI mysql is not Ubuntu related which makes your question off topic for the channel but we still tried to help you.02:32
RazernokI'm using ubuntu server with mysql so it is the right channel02:33
IdleOneNo it isn't02:33
Razernokthey were only jerks02:33
IdleOneyour issue is mysql and not Ubuntu related.02:33
IdleOnePlease return in 24 hrs02:33
Razernokits ubuntu02:33
Razernokas thats the server running02:34
Razernokthey are only jerks02:34
Razernokgreat, because no one is helping me I just broke the server and must now reinstall ubuntu02:44
Razernokthanks alot to yall not helping me02:45
mneptokIdleOne: for the record, Razernok's question would *not* have been off-topic in #ubuntu-server05:14
FlannelEr05:31
FlannelIdleOne, mneptok: It's not offtopic in #ubuntu either05:31
mneptokwell, remote connectivity to a mysqld process is going to get a lot more traction in -server05:32
FlannelLooks like he got help in #u, and wasn't too accepting of that help05:33
FlannelWasn't the best help, but him getting grumpy like that wasn't warranted05:34
bazhangjoobong, hi06:28
joobonghi06:30
bazhangjoobong, we said 24 hours, remember?06:30
joobongok06:31
joobongbazhang: if i have to enter at the same time yesterday it is 12 o clock PM07:13
joobongubottu:hi07:17
ubottuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu-ops! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!07:17
mneptokjoobong: you have 15 hours to go07:18
joobongbazhang: hi if i have to enter here again at the same time yesterday it is 12o'clock PM07:18
mneptokjoobong: you have 15 hours to go07:18
mneptok15:12 <+bazhang> see you in 24 hours07:19
mneptok15:12 < joobong> ok07:19
mneptok00:18 <+mneptok> joobong: you have 15 hours to go07:19
mneptoknote timestamps07:19
joobongwhat i am not in your country whenever you are07:19
joobongmneptok: i am in kuwait and now it is 9:20 AM07:20
ikoniais this still going on ?07:20
ikoniajoobong: come back any time AFTER 24 hours then07:20
mneptokjoobong: the time zone does not matter.07:21
ikoniajoobong: eg: come back any time "1 day later"07:21
joobongikonia: i already waited for half a day07:21
mneptokjoobong: you were told at 1512 to come back in 24 hours. it's now 0021.07:21
ikoniajoobong: you where told to wait "1" day07:21
ikoniajoobong: so you have failed to follow instructions07:21
ikoniajoobong: come back any time after 24 hours from "now" - not before07:21
ikoniado you understand ?07:21
ikoniajoobong: I'm looking for yes/no only07:22
joobongikonia: why is there instructions that you made up07:22
ikoniajoobong: I'm looking for yes or no only07:22
ikoniait's not a discussion07:22
joobongyes all right and gase ommk07:22
ikoniaok - see any time after 24 hours then - bye07:22
ikoniaphew07:24
ikoniajoobong: ok - you now have a ban for 48 hours07:25
ikoniajoobong: nothing will be discussed for 48 hours07:25
ikoniajoobong: please come back here after 2 days (48 hours) and not before07:25
joobongikonia: i already waited for 24 hours come on man07:25
ikoniajoobong: now you are just wasting peoples time - so it's going to go up every time you come here07:26
ikoniajoobong: go away - come back in 48 hours and not before07:26
ikoniayes or no, that's the only answer I'm looking for07:26
joobongikonia: what are you07:26
ikoniajoobong: 36 hours07:26
ikoniayes or no07:26
joobongikonia: why do you try to control me07:27
ikoniajoobong: last chance - go away and come back in 36 hours (3 days) and not before and we can resolve the ban07:27
joobongikonia: you do not have the right to ban me07:27
ikoniayes or no is the only response I want07:27
ikoniathis discussion is over now - for a week07:27
ikonia!ops07:27
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ubottuikonia called the ops in #ubuntu-ops ()07:27
ikoniaplease remove joobong from the channel07:27
ikoniathe ban is now 1 week07:28
joobongall right you fucking bitches i will go out of this friggin channel and i will never come back and you ikonia you are a bitch or bastard07:29
ikoniaok - that works fine07:29
ikoniabye07:29
ikonia@mark07:30
ubottu(mark [<channel>] <nick|hostmask> [<comment>]) -- Creates an entry in the Bantracker as if <nick|hostmask> was kicked from <channel> with the comment <comment>, if <comment> is given it will be uses as the comment on the Bantracker, <channel> is only needed when send in /msg07:30
tonyyarussoOn a minor note, 36 hours != 3 days ikonia ;)07:32
ikoniaoops07:32
ikonia72 always works better07:32
ikoniait's early here07:32
ikoniajust remove straight away07:33
ikoniaXYLITOL: leave07:33
XYLITOLwhy i do not want to07:33
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ikoniayou just said you would never come back - leave07:33
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ikonia!ops07:34
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ubottuikonia called the ops in #ubuntu-ops ()07:34
XYLITOLno07:34
XYLITOLnono07:34
XYLITOLnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo07:34
XYLITOLnononononononono07:34
ikoniathank you07:34
ikoniaI can go to work now :)07:34
ikoniaback in an hour07:34
jussino not yet07:34
jussiI need something from you07:35
ikoniaoh - ok07:35
ikoniabe quick07:35
ikonia(not to be rude)07:35
jussiikonia: please see pm07:35
ikoniaok07:35
* tonyyarusso looks for "jussi" in CPAN07:36
tonyyarussoClearly I need to step away from the Perl dependencies at work...07:36
ikonialaters all,07:36
XYLITOLikonia: i am sorry but why do i have to exit chat07:43
ubottuIn #ubuntu, Joshmuffin said:    !anything is funny07:43
jussi!idle | XYLITOL07:44
ubottuXYLITOL: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.07:44
XYLITOLok i have something to ask07:44
XYLITOLcan i07:44
XYLITOLy or n07:44
XYLITOLjust answer07:44
XYLITOLnow07:45
jussican you what?07:45
XYLITOLask question about ubuntu07:45
XYLITOLh07:45
XYLITOLhow can i go through my system in terminal07:47
tonyyarussoNo.  You can't.  You were banned.  If you want support from the community, you have to wait until you can behave in a way that lets you be part of the community.  So, for the next week you are out of luck.  I would suggest consulting https://help.ubuntu.com/ and http://www.google.com/linux in the meantime.07:48
mneptoksomeone remmeber to -b that Kuwaiti ISP in 120m or so?07:49
tonyyarussoToo bad ubottu doesn't have a function for that.07:50
tsimpsonif someone wants to rewrite Bantracker, please do :)07:52
mneptoki'll rely on the community. both to re-write BT and to remove that wide ban in a few hours. ;)07:53
tsimpsonwell, for ubottu that "community" is all of 2 people07:54
* mneptok will take what he can get07:54
tonyyarussotsimpson: work longer hours then, slackers!07:55
bazhangguest32778 giving out more suspect/useless advice in #ubuntu10:25
bazhangno response via PM10:56
ikonianot again14:01
ikonia!ops | joobong again14:02
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ubottuikonia called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (joobong again)14:02
joobongi am very very very very very very very very very very very sorry14:02
ikoniajoobong: leave now14:02
joobongcan you forgive me please14:03
ikoniajoobong: leave now.14:03
joobongcan you forgive me please14:03
joobongcan you forgive me please14:03
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ikonia!ops14:03
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ubottuikonia called the ops in #ubuntu-ops ()14:03
ikoniacan we please leave this ban in place for longer than an our14:03
ikoniahour14:03
gnomefreakhes startin gway too damn early14:03
gnomefreakhe comes back and i will ban him14:04
gnomefreakunless some else wants too ;)14:04
* gnomefreak talking to ubottu in PM 14:05
ikoniaoh come on14:05
ikoniasorry: leave14:06
sorrygnomefreak: hi14:06
gnomefreakhi and you are?14:06
sorryjoobong14:06
gnomefreaksorry: please leave and come back in 24 more hurs14:06
gnomefreakhours14:06
ikoniagnomefreak: no -14:06
ikoniagnomefreak: 7 days14:07
ikoniathat we the agreement14:07
sorrygnomefreak: i did14:07
gnomefreaksorry: ok come back in 7 days14:07
sorryhow about 2414:07
sorryhours14:07
ikoniano14:07
sorryor 10014:07
sorryhours14:07
ikonia7 days14:07
ikoniathat is the only option for you14:07
ikonia7 days or not at all14:07
gnomefreaksorry: how about 7 days. we can make it loger if you wish. pleae /part and come back in 7 days14:07
sorryor 1000000000000000hours14:07
ikoniaok - end this14:07
gnomefreakdamn my typing sucks14:08
gnomefreaks/pleae/please14:08
sorrywhy do you guys try to part me14:08
sorryi am sorry14:08
gnomefreaksorry: i did due to your spamming14:08
gnomefreaksorry: now pleae /part14:09
gnomefreakdam14:09
sorryi swear to god that i will never spam you14:09
gnomefreakplease14:09
ikoniaremove + ban14:09
ikoniaI'm fed up of this14:09
sorrysorry14:09
sorrysorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!14:09
gnomefreaksorry: i dont like banning/removing/muting users so i would rather not have to do it to you if i can advoid it14:09
ikoniahere we go again14:10
gnomefreakikonia: no worries i have it under control14:10
sorryi wont do anything14:10
* gnomefreak getting really tired of him14:11
* gnomefreak thinks of a comment on ban now, i have no nice way to say it14:12
x0xhello why i am banned in ubuntu ?14:13
gnomefreakikonia: you care to take this, i didnt ban him from #u14:14
ikoniagnomefreak: no problem14:14
ikoniax0x: give me two minutes and I'll have a look14:14
gnomefreakikonia: thanks14:14
ikoniax0x: won't keep you a moment14:16
bazhangits jungli14:17
ikoniaoh14:17
ikoniain that case discussion over14:17
bazhangalso blockcold14:17
x0xno no14:17
ikoniax0x: you know exactly why you're banned14:17
x0xsorry but i don't know that why i am banned :(14:17
ikoniax0x: you do, the same reason you pm'd me a few minutes ago - this now makes sense14:18
ikoniaolha bruder, etc14:18
x0xpm'd why i pm'd you ?14:18
Pici(is that the same person?)14:18
ikoniaPici: not %100 certain, but the mask is pretty much the same, it's an assumption not a fact14:18
ikoniax0x: I could be wrong on that14:18
x0xbut give the stable reson for banning ?14:19
bazhangolha bruder would be balzac would it not14:19
ikoniaeither way, the user jungli is a known problem user, and you are him and you know your banned why14:19
ikoniabazhang: ahhh interesting, same ip range today14:19
ikoniahappened 15 minutes before balzac joined14:19
x0xmake me banned there as much you wish bye14:20
ikoniabe14:20
ikoniabye14:20
bazhang[blockcold] (~x0x@122.161.26.19): x0x14:21
ikoniabazhang: I refuse to play this stupid game with someone who knows his actions are unacceptable and is now trying to evade and pretend he's not the same person14:21
ikoniawhen someone is willing to be honest about things, then we can progress it14:22
ikoniax0x: and versioning me will do nothing14:22
ikoniax0x: as you said, "bye" so please leave the channel14:22
x0xikonia, are you girl ?14:23
PiciWhy does it matter?14:23
ikoniathat doesn't matter14:23
ikoniax0x: if you are not willing to be honest, please leave the channel as this will go no-where14:23
x0xikonia, your nick pretend so14:23
ikoniax0x: good bye14:23
gnomefreakplease tell me he isnt the same user as above.14:23
ikoniagnomefreak: no, it's not14:23
Picino.14:24
gnomefreakok good thanks14:24
bazhanggnomefreak, nope that was joobong14:24
gnomefreakbazhang: i thought x0x was him14:24
gnomefreakill be back shortly14:24
x0xplz unbanned me in ubuntu :)14:25
ikoniax0x: please leave the channel unless you have something else to discuss14:25
ikoniax0x: no14:25
ikoniax0x: not until you can be honest with us14:25
x0xyou ppl are annoy a good user i am not xyz troll14:26
x0xlots of ppl respect me in freenode14:26
ikoniajust leave14:26
ikoniathis is going nowhere14:26
x0xhow much day banned to me ?14:27
ikoniauntil you can be honest with us14:27
ikoniaand we can resolve your behaviour issues14:27
x0xi love ubuntu :)14:27
bazhangx0x, please /part the channel14:28
x0xno untill you ppl unbanned me in ubuntu14:28
x0xi am a nice guy14:28
x0xyou ppl shooting the wrong guy14:28
bazhangx0x, that won't happen today.14:29
bazhangx0x, by staying and here and pushing it, the ban will be extended, so please /part the channel14:29
ikoniasuper14:30
bazhanghad an hour long PM with him earlier today, he said to let him join ##linux and don'14:30
bazhangerr don't bother him and he would stop ban evading in #ubuntu14:31
ikoniaI don't care what he does in ##linux14:31
bazhangnor do I14:31
ikoniathey have similar rules so he'll get removed from there14:31
bazhanghe has been many many times14:31
ikoniajust changed nick in #-ot14:31
bazhangyep14:32
ikoniacan't stand the blatent lies/timewasting14:32
PiciI don't think its fair for this channel to be the next step in getting a ban resolved, but when the user joins for us to basically say "No, go away"14:32
bazhangthe whole bit about no support in -ot though, is not written in stone14:32
ikoniaPici: until he starts admiting it rather than wasting time - what's the point14:32
ikoniawhy am I banned - you know why your banned, I am not him - he changes nick to the other nick name as soon as he leaves14:32
bazhangPici, feel free to spend multiple days in PM with him, then have him lie to your face14:33
ikoniaif he's straight up and sorry, I have no issue resolv ing it14:33
bazhangPici, as I have just done14:33
ikoniabut why do we need to do the dance with him every time when he's just here to waste time with lies14:33
bazhangPici, he knows very well why he is banned, has been explained to him many times.14:34
Picibazhang, ikonia: Thats why we have other operators here for them to talk to.  There would be no point in having -ops be on the appeals page if you were going to be speaking to the same operator that banned you in the first place.14:34
ikoniaPici: it's not about other ops14:34
bazhangPici, feel free to unban14:34
ikoniaPici: someone who is hear to just lie and waste peoples time over and over, what's the point, when he's honest about it, we can resolve the issue14:34
bazhanghe is a repeat, chronic troll in multiple channels14:35
bazhangI have tried to ask him nicely in PM to resolve this over the course of many days, with several hours spent doing so14:35
ikoniabazhang: pici has a point that if he's here to resolve a ban, then he should get the chance, my point is that if he comes in telling lies and wasting time again, why does another operator have to go through the whole lies again14:37
PiciLets say this was some other user, not x0x.  The point of this place being the next step after talking to the operator that banned you is that someone else who is outside the situation can take a look14:38
PiciEr, not sure that second sentence made sense though...14:39
bazhangPici, 100% in agreement14:40
gnomefreak+114:42
Picibazhang: Hiya14:42
Picier, BluesKaj hiya14:42
bazhangabout the first part14:42
bazhangnot the not making sense part14:42
Picibazhang: :P14:42
bazhang:)14:42
BluesKajhi Pici14:42
BluesKajyou guys must be bored :)14:44
ikoniawhy ?14:45
bazhang blockcold is now known as Jungli14:45
PiciBluesKaj: What can we do for you today?14:46
topyliBluesKaj: is there something you want to talk about? :)14:46
BluesKajchastiising on regulars for helping in offtopic to me is a bit picky14:47
BluesKajif some oone is banned from a (k)ubuntu chat then ban them from allrelated ones as well14:47
gnomefreakthat is way over the edge IMHO14:48
topylihelp is ok in general, but it's not fair to troll #ubuntu and move to -ot for support14:48
BluesKajincluding offtopic14:48
ikoniaBluesKaj: it's just sensible to not support a user that's been banned from a support channel14:48
ikoniathat doesn't mean he can't chat in offtopic14:48
ikoniabut it's a bit silly to allow him support in -ot if he's banned from #ubuntu and refusing to change his beahviour to get back in14:48
ikoniait's nothing against you supporting anyone, some great discussions have come out of support and vice/vesrsa14:49
ikoniaBluesKaj: I worded my comments to you badly, and for that I apologies14:49
BluesKajusually ppl are banned for misconduct , they should be in offtopic as well if they have been misbehaving14:49
BluesKajok ikonia apopolgy accepted14:50
ikoniaBluesKaj: they are two seperate channels, with different rules14:50
ikoniacan't ban from both for no reason14:50
PiciWe don't believe in pre-emptive banning14:50
BluesKajPre-emptive ? heh, that's a ggod one ;014:51
BluesKajerr good14:51
* BluesKaj shakes his head ...14:51
topyliBluesKaj: if a user is known to be maliscious in all channels, then it's a freenode network issue and not up to ubuntu operators14:51
BluesKajalright then you guys do your thing ..bye14:52
PiciYou too ;)14:52
Picidarn14:52
bazhangokay got jungli in PM again14:52
ikoniathat was my fault for bad wording14:52
topylialls well that ends well14:53
ikoniahe's even using the same nick after being in here denying it was him14:53
ikoniathat's what frustrates me, if he was willing to resolve his ban, he would be honest14:53
bazhangI asked him the truth and stop lying14:53
bazhangerr to stop14:53
ikonianot waste time saying "I'm not him, it's the wrong guy"14:53
ikoniaI'm leaving him be now, it's up to someone else to resolve his ban14:53
gnomefreakBluesKaj has been very helpful in past14:53
ikoniagnomefreak: no question14:54
bazhangI remember him from my early kubuntu days with jucato14:54
topyliyeah i like blueskaj14:57
abhi_navhello15:06
bazhanghi15:06
abhi_navwhats the procedure to bring my personal bot for my own uses in ubuntu channel?15:06
bazhang!botclone15:07
ubottuUbottu uses supybot, which is available in the main !repositories, with additional plugins that are available at http://ubottu.com/clone.html15:07
abhi_navno no15:07
bazhangwhoops15:07
abhi_navi am using mozbots15:07
bazhangabhi_nav, why do you need a bot in ubuntu channels15:07
abhi_navactually, for some issue. most commond is for greeting. then that look alike nick issue then my many frnds in #ubuntu-in dont have general knowledge of linux. so i have to introduce them some basic concept. i have to type so many lines. thats why15:08
bazhangabhi_nav, a speaking bot like that is not allowed15:08
abhi_navnot allowed at all? :(15:09
bazhangnope15:09
abhi_navso I only use supybot?15:09
PiciI'm confused.15:09
bazhangabhi_nav, there is already ubottu15:09
abhi_nav^^^15:09
Piciabhi_nav: What channel do you want to bring your bot into?15:09
abhi_navbut ubottu dont have factoids for basic or common concepts15:09
bazhangsure it does15:10
abhi_navPici, both in #ubuntu, #ubuntu-in and my personal pm15:10
abhi_navbazhang, can you again give me that factoid link then?15:10
bazhangabhi_nav, the factoid link? or the botclone one15:10
abhi_navfactoid of ubottu15:10
abhi_navi tell you all e.g.15:10
Piciabhi_nav: We only control #ubuntu here, you would need to talk to the operators in #ubuntu-in for their decision.15:10
bazhang!factoid > abhi_nav15:11
ubottuabhi_nav, please see my private message15:11
abhi_nave.g. lots of my new comer friend dont know that .exe is nothing to do with linux. so to tell them the difference i have to type so many lines. like that15:11
Piciabhi_nav: If your bot is interacting with users in #ubuntu then we could not allow that.15:11
abhi_navok15:11
Piciabhi_nav: It doesn't matter if its a supybot or a mozbot or whatever.15:12
jussi!wine15:12
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu15:12
abhi_navPici, no no. it wll not automaticaly interact. it wll interact only when I told him to do so.15:12
abhi_navwhere is .exe explaination here?15:12
Pici"WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux"15:12
abhi_navno but they new comer thing that .exe is standard and linux dont have support for it. actually .exe is not standard. its notihng to do with linux. its win file format. that i have to tell15:13
abhi_navok btw15:13
abhi_navstill my bot is not allowed if he is not interacting with users automatically? it wll only interact when i told him  so? then also not allowed?15:14
Piciabhi_nav: Not in #ubuntu.15:14
abhi_navin #ubuntu-in?15:14
Piciabhi_nav: You'd need to contact the operators there to discuss it.15:15
abhi_navthey are not here? I mean this is comman channel for all ubuntu ops, isnt it? correct me if i am wrong15:15
Piciabhi_nav: This channel is only for operators of the core Ubuntu channels.  International (Loco) channel operators may be found in #ubuntu-irc15:16
abhi_navok I wll ask them now.15:16
abhi_navthank you all.15:16
abhi_nav:)15:16
PiciYou're welcome15:16
ikoniaabhi_nav: if you message chanserv with access #ubuntu-in list15:16
abhi_navikonia, yah sure. thanks15:16
abhi_navbye. :)15:16
ikoniaabhi_nav: you'll get a list of the ubuntu-in operators, who you can contact directly15:16
abhi_navhmm15:16
abhi_navok i go now15:17
Piciok15:17
ikoniaI've just joined #ubuntu-in as I thought there was a bot in there - there is, lubot2 is there15:17
bazhangso I made clear to jungli no more lying, no more harassing users, being offtopic etc15:17
bazhangwe'll see if it takes15:18
PiciWell, he has a chance to be 'normal' in -offtopic15:19
bazhangyep15:19
bazhanghe admits it all by the way15:20
ikoniaI wonder how it would feel if we wasted his time15:20
ikoniawhen he asked why he's banned asked "who are you"15:20
ikoniawhen he says jungli say "I don't know him, who what did he do"15:20
ikoniaand just play as dumb back, I wonder how that would take for hiim15:21
gnomefreakshouldnt matter what "he" did unless he == jungli15:21
gnomefreakbut my opinion15:21
h00kmy f-bomb hilight didn't work, apparently16:04
bazhangseems to be team trolling16:05
PiciI was just catching my hilight16:05
h00kI have that on hilight, apparently. I wonder why it didn't show16:44
h00k/hilight WORDGOESHERE -channels #ubuntu,ubuntu-offtopic -word16:45
h00kyes?16:45
Picih00k: no, WORDGOESHERE needs to be the last argument16:45
h00kooh, dangit.16:45
h00k/hilight -channels #ubuntu,ubuntu-offtopic -word fuck16:45
h00k...16:45
* h00k facepalms16:45
Piciyes, like that16:46
h00kYeah, I didn't mean to throw that out.16:46
PiciI know16:46
* Pici pats16:46
h00kcool, I have some wrong hilights in there, but whatever16:46
h00kI kan lurn somday16:47
h00k!censorship is ~= free speech17:28
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, h00k said: !censorship is ~= free speech17:28
bazhangheh17:28
bazhangx3 and twisted are a handful17:29
h00kyes17:29
h00ktwisted has been warned twice about language.17:29
h00kI'm not messing around now :(17:29
bazhangyep17:29
h00kI think that's the right alias for an alias, anyway.17:30
bazhangthought it was !factoid is <alias> xyz17:31
Piciit is17:31
h00k!free speech17:31
ubottuPlease don't pepper the channel with cries of buzzwords like "free speech!", especially when you don't know what they mean nor are they applicable to the current situation.  See http://tonyyarusso.com/politics/what-free-speech-isnt for more information.17:32
Pici=~ / ~=  is for doing sed style factoid modifications.17:32
h00kooh.17:32
h00k!censorship is free speech17:32
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, h00k said: !censorship is free speech17:32
h00kheh17:32
funkyHat!censorship is <alias>free speech17:32
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, funkyHat said: !censorship is <alias>free speech17:32
bazhangwar is peace!17:32
h00koh, eah, I for got alias.17:33
h00kand can not ty pe today17:33
Picifreedom is slavery17:33
Piciignorance is strength!17:33
funkyHatPici: ⢁)17:33
bazhanghehe17:33
bazhang!198417:34
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/17:34
h00khttp://friendsofirony.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/129085098846493290.jpg17:34
funkyHatThat is my favourite factoid name17:34
bazhangosmodivs the gnaa guy?17:37
PiciNot everyone in mexico is.17:38
bazhangtrue17:38
* h00k facepalms17:38
Picihowowowos17:43
bazhanghe seems to be imssing a verb17:44
bazhangerr missing17:44
h00kor two17:44
IdleOneafternoon18:11
bazhanghi18:11
IdleOneh00k: isn't it so sad that we have to set those highlights :/18:11
IdleOnesup bazhang18:11
bazhangIdleOne, you pinged me earlier sorry I was not around18:12
IdleOnewas last night I believe18:12
bazhangwell time zones, but yeah18:12
IdleOneno worries. mneptok ended up removing the person from this channel if I read the scroll back correctly18:12
bazhangrazornok or the like18:13
IdleOneyeah18:13
bazhanghe went on to another channel and continued there as well, got banned too18:14
IdleOneWell as was pointed out to me his question was on topic BUT the reason he was removed and forwarded here was his attitude and unwillingness to help others help him18:15
bazhangyep, refused to read any docs18:16
IdleOneor answer any questions18:16
Junglii love you ubuntu18:16
bazhangJungli, hi18:16
IdleOneJungli: Hello. How can we help you today?18:16
bazhangJungli, you know why you were banned, correct?18:16
IdleOneJungli: In order for the ops team to be able to do our job effectively it requires that when users join this channel they state the reason they have joined and also answer any questions asked of them18:20
IdleOnedarn!18:20
bazhanghah18:20
PiciIdleOne: Did you still need me (you pmed me some time last night)18:41
IdleOnePici: nope all good now18:41
h00kIdleOne: that was a lot of text for saying "Whaddya want?!"18:42
IdleOnereason why I pinged you and bazhang last night was because I was looking for some sort of backup with that razernok person.18:42
IdleOneh00k: yeah it was18:42
IdleOnebut much less abrasive :)18:42
ikoniaoperators, can you put some thought into if bzshells should be allowed in ubuntu without moderation, the same way as tor/freenode webchat etc18:58
ikoniabzshells is getting to be a host for more and more bandodging and mocking of a ban, the staff of bzshells do not respond to complaints so I am raising this issue18:58
bazhangikonia surumply from earlier? (balzac)18:59
ikoniathat's one of the reasons yes18:59
ikoniahave a think about your stance on it as I'm going to raise it as an issue shortly19:00
=== x0x is now known as International-Ju
topyliikonia: i am unaware of this. would you like to write up something on the mailing list?19:17
=== International-Ju is now known as Jung_Lee
topyliJung_Lee: please pick a nick and tell us how we can help19:18
Jung_Leetopyli: plz unbanned me in Ubuntu19:19
topyliJung_Lee: why are you banned? what was your nick back then when you were banned?19:20
Jung_Leemy nick Is Jungli i am banned for using word ubantards :(19:20
topylinobody gets banned for just that19:21
Jung_Leeno only this i am banned i say sorry to ubuntu channel for that19:21
Jung_Leeplz unbanned me and give one more chance at there :)19:22
Jung_Leei love ubuntu :)19:22
h00kJung_Lee: the last I saw, you were ban evading19:22
h00kJung_Lee: You'll want to speak with Pici19:23
Jung_Leeif ppl banned me there is alright but after a wwek plz unbanned me19:23
h00kJung_Lee: Do you understand why you were banned in the first place?19:24
Jung_Leeno !19:24
h00kJung_Lee: perhaps you should /part, read the !guidelines, and come back later.19:25
h00k!guidelines > Jung_Lee19:25
ubottuJung_Lee, please see my private message19:25
h00kJung_Lee: when you can understand what you did wrong.19:25
Jung_Leeok ;)19:26
h00kJung_Lee: for instance, trolling, foul language, ban evading.19:26
Jung_Leeok lets chat19:27
h00kI don't have anything else to discuss with you in this channel.19:27
Jung_Leeh00k: whats your first girlfriend name ?19:27
h00kPlease /part and return when you understand the !guidelines.19:27
Jung_Leeok i don't mind if you ban me there19:28
Jung_Leelets chat19:28
Jung_Leeor tell me ...19:28
Jung_Leeany channel for chatting ?19:28
topyliJung_Lee: please leave the personal questions and concentrate on your behavior on #ubuntu19:28
Jung_Leetopyli: i say at above i don't mind if you ban me there19:29
Jung_Leelets chat19:29
h00kJung_Lee: As per the /topic, you need to /part now, unless you'd like to discuss your behavior in #ubuntu.19:29
BlayzinHow can I give my linux server a free domain? (don't care which one [i.e. .com .net .org .info])22:08
* h00k points Blayzin to the /topic22:09
h00kBlayzin: this isn't a support channel, perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic could better help you22:09
BlayzinI came into the ubuntu channel dummy22:10
Blayzinmy problem is on ubuntu22:10
h00kBlayzin: this isn't an Ubuntu support channel22:10
BlayzinI entered #ubuntu so yes it is22:10
h00kBlayzin: this is #ubuntu-ops22:11
h00kBlayzin: were you forwarded here by somebody?22:12
funkyHat@btlogin22:12
h00kBlayzin: It looks like IdleOne forwarded you here, you'll have to speak with him22:13
h00kubottu: tell Blayzin about guidelines22:15
ubottuBlayzin, please see my private message22:15
BlayzinI typed /join #ubuntu so I am in the ubuntu channel22:18
h00kBlayzin: it looks like IdleOne had you forwarded here to discuss conduct in #ubuntu22:20
jussiJordan_U: hi?22:23
h00kBlayzin: from what I see, you had a bit of a conversation with iceroot yesterday, he wasn't very helpful to you, IdleOne wanted to /query (personal message) you about it22:23
h00kBlayzin: am I understanding this correctly?22:24
* h00k pokes Blayzin 22:27
* jussi prods Jordan_U22:31
* jpds pokes jussi.22:32
h00kBlayzin: If you're around, we can take care of this and get you back into #ubuntu22:34
BlayzinI am in ubuntu22:58
BlayzinI typed /join #ubuntu so I am in the ubuntu channel22:58
BlayzinDUH22:58
funkyHatBlayzin: if you type /topic you will see that you are in fact in the #ubuntu-ops channel. You are banned from #ubuntu in such a way that you will automatically join this channel if you try to join #ubuntu.23:06

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