[00:08] <bazhang> heads up on georgij
[00:18] <bazhang> he's an incessant troll in multiple channels
[00:44] <niko> |littlebear| [~|littlebe@CPE00045adf0380-CM0012c99a372c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] seems to have a broken client
[00:46] <IdleOne> I don't remember what channel we forward to
[00:46] <niko> ##fix_your_connection
[00:47] <niko> is a good target
[00:47] <IdleOne> thank you
[00:47] <IdleOne> seems alright now
[01:43] <bazhang> nerdy_kid, hi
[01:44] <nerdy_kid> sry quassel auto joined me to the channel
[01:44] <IdleOne> hmm odd
[01:46] <bazhang> razernok?
[02:16] <IdleOne> Razernok: I apologize for having had to kick/forward you here
[02:16] <IdleOne> Razernok: I apologize for having had to kick/forward you here
[02:17] <Razernok> stop this rude ass shit
[02:17] <IdleOne> but I need to speak with you and I hope you will be willing to listen
[02:17] <IdleOne> Razernok: first off. Please watch the language
[02:17] <Razernok> I'm only on here for help which no one has yet to provide
[02:17] <IdleOne> I am speaking to you politely, no need to curse
[02:17] <IdleOne> Razernok: I understand that and I am trying to help you get the help you need
[02:18] <IdleOne> are you willing to talk calmly?
[02:18] <Razernok> they haven't once helped
[02:18] <IdleOne> Razernok: let's forget about what was said and done before, let's take it from this point on ok
[02:18] <Razernok> w/e
[02:19] <Razernok> jerks never change anyways
[02:19] <IdleOne> I believe that if you join #mysql and state your issue they will be able to help you
[02:19] <IdleOne> but your attitude needs some serious readjusting
[02:19] <Razernok> its a linux problem not windows
[02:20] <IdleOne> Razernok: if you arte not willing to try and help yourself then nobody is going to be able to help
[02:20] <IdleOne> aren't*
[02:20] <Razernok> all i asked was to allow my other network computer the ability to remotely connect to mysql
[02:21] <IdleOne> and iceroot was trying to help but you did not seem to be paying attention to what he was telling you
[02:21] <Razernok> and they have to be jerks from the start and provide no help
[02:21] <IdleOne> the only person I saw being a "jerk" was you to be honest.
[02:22] <IdleOne> 3 people at least tried to guide you, asked you questions about your setup and asked more then once. You ignored them and kept repeating I'm lost
[02:22] <Razernok> simple to help without being mean, did they try that? no
[02:22] <IdleOne> yes they did
[02:23] <IdleOne> Razernok: I need you to Please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines and  http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:24] <IdleOne> those two links will explain what we expect from every user who joins Ubuntu irc channels
[02:25] <IdleOne> I also still think your best bet for help is #mysql but I assure you they will not tolerate a bad attitude any more then we will in #ubuntu
[02:25] <Razernok> its a linux system not windows
[02:26] <IdleOne> what does windows have to do with mysql?
[02:26] <Razernok> as the system is linux
[02:27] <IdleOne> Razernok: you are just not trying to help yourself. I am not going to be able to lift the ban in #ubuntu until you agree to respect guidelines and the code of conduct
[02:27] <Razernok> I have been
[02:28] <Razernok> I'm not rude, they are rude towards me
[02:28] <IdleOne> Razernok: join #mysql
[02:28] <IdleOne> ask them politely
[02:28] <IdleOne> and be patient
[02:28] <Razernok> my system is linux not windows
[02:28] <IdleOne> fine
[02:28] <IdleOne> don't try asking them.
[02:29] <Razernok> so going to a windows based help room does me no good
[02:29] <IdleOne> ban stays, you can come back here in 24 hours to discuss the removal
[02:30] <IdleOne> Razernok: Please part the channel and return in 24 hours to discuss the removal of your ban. Thank you
[02:32] <IdleOne> Razernok: Just FYI mysql is not Ubuntu related which makes your question off topic for the channel but we still tried to help you.
[02:33] <Razernok> I'm using ubuntu server with mysql so it is the right channel
[02:33] <IdleOne> No it isn't
[02:33] <Razernok> they were only jerks
[02:33] <IdleOne> your issue is mysql and not Ubuntu related.
[02:33] <IdleOne> Please return in 24 hrs
[02:33] <Razernok> its ubuntu
[02:34] <Razernok> as thats the server running
[02:34] <Razernok> they are only jerks
[02:44] <Razernok> great, because no one is helping me I just broke the server and must now reinstall ubuntu
[02:45] <Razernok> thanks alot to yall not helping me
[05:14] <mneptok> IdleOne: for the record, Razernok's question would *not* have been off-topic in #ubuntu-server
[05:31] <Flannel> Er
[05:31] <Flannel> IdleOne, mneptok: It's not offtopic in #ubuntu either
[05:32] <mneptok> well, remote connectivity to a mysqld process is going to get a lot more traction in -server
[05:33] <Flannel> Looks like he got help in #u, and wasn't too accepting of that help
[05:34] <Flannel> Wasn't the best help, but him getting grumpy like that wasn't warranted
[06:28] <bazhang> joobong, hi
[06:30] <joobong> hi
[06:30] <bazhang> joobong, we said 24 hours, remember?
[06:31] <joobong> ok
[07:13] <joobong> bazhang: if i have to enter at the same time yesterday it is 12 o clock PM
[07:17] <joobong> ubottu:hi
[07:18] <mneptok> joobong: you have 15 hours to go
[07:18] <joobong> bazhang: hi if i have to enter here again at the same time yesterday it is 12o'clock PM
[07:18] <mneptok> joobong: you have 15 hours to go
[07:19] <mneptok> 15:12 <+bazhang> see you in 24 hours
[07:19] <mneptok> 15:12 < joobong> ok
[07:19] <mneptok> 00:18 <+mneptok> joobong: you have 15 hours to go
[07:19] <mneptok> note timestamps
[07:19] <joobong> what i am not in your country whenever you are
[07:20] <joobong> mneptok: i am in kuwait and now it is 9:20 AM
[07:20] <ikonia> is this still going on ?
[07:20] <ikonia> joobong: come back any time AFTER 24 hours then
[07:21] <mneptok> joobong: the time zone does not matter.
[07:21] <ikonia> joobong: eg: come back any time "1 day later"
[07:21] <joobong> ikonia: i already waited for half a day
[07:21] <mneptok> joobong: you were told at 1512 to come back in 24 hours. it's now 0021.
[07:21] <ikonia> joobong: you where told to wait "1" day
[07:21] <ikonia> joobong: so you have failed to follow instructions
[07:21] <ikonia> joobong: come back any time after 24 hours from "now" - not before
[07:21] <ikonia> do you understand ?
[07:22] <ikonia> joobong: I'm looking for yes/no only
[07:22] <joobong> ikonia: why is there instructions that you made up
[07:22] <ikonia> joobong: I'm looking for yes or no only
[07:22] <ikonia> it's not a discussion
[07:22] <joobong> yes all right and gase ommk
[07:22] <ikonia> ok - see any time after 24 hours then - bye
[07:24] <ikonia> phew
[07:25] <ikonia> joobong: ok - you now have a ban for 48 hours
[07:25] <ikonia> joobong: nothing will be discussed for 48 hours
[07:25] <ikonia> joobong: please come back here after 2 days (48 hours) and not before
[07:25] <joobong> ikonia: i already waited for 24 hours come on man
[07:26] <ikonia> joobong: now you are just wasting peoples time - so it's going to go up every time you come here
[07:26] <ikonia> joobong: go away - come back in 48 hours and not before
[07:26] <ikonia> yes or no, that's the only answer I'm looking for
[07:26] <joobong> ikonia: what are you
[07:26] <ikonia> joobong: 36 hours
[07:26] <ikonia> yes or no
[07:27] <joobong> ikonia: why do you try to control me
[07:27] <ikonia> joobong: last chance - go away and come back in 36 hours (3 days) and not before and we can resolve the ban
[07:27] <joobong> ikonia: you do not have the right to ban me
[07:27] <ikonia> yes or no is the only response I want
[07:27] <ikonia> this discussion is over now - for a week
[07:27] <ikonia> !ops
[07:27] <ikonia> please remove joobong from the channel
[07:28] <ikonia> the ban is now 1 week
[07:29] <joobong> all right you fucking bitches i will go out of this friggin channel and i will never come back and you ikonia you are a bitch or bastard
[07:29] <ikonia> ok - that works fine
[07:29] <ikonia> bye
[07:30] <ikonia> @mark
[07:32] <tonyyarusso> On a minor note, 36 hours != 3 days ikonia ;)
[07:32] <ikonia> oops
[07:32] <ikonia> 72 always works better
[07:32] <ikonia> it's early here
[07:33] <ikonia> just remove straight away
[07:33] <ikonia> XYLITOL: leave
[07:33] <XYLITOL> why i do not want to
[07:33] <XYLITOL> ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
[07:33] <ikonia> you just said you would never come back - leave
[07:33] <XYLITOL> no
[07:33] <XYLITOL> no
[07:33] <XYLITOL> no
[07:33] <XYLITOL> no
[07:33] <XYLITOL> no
[07:33] <XYLITOL> ono
[07:33] <XYLITOL> no
[07:34] <ikonia> mneptok:
[07:34] <XYLITOL> no
[07:34] <XYLITOL> no
[07:34] <XYLITOL> no
[07:34] <XYLITOL> no
[07:34] <XYLITOL> no
[07:34] <XYLITOL> no
[07:34] <XYLITOL> no
[07:34] <XYLITOL> no
[07:34] <XYLITOL> no
[07:34] <XYLITOL> no
[07:34] <ikonia> !ops
[07:34] <XYLITOL> no
[07:34] <XYLITOL> nono
[07:34] <XYLITOL> noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[07:34] <XYLITOL> nononononononono
[07:34] <ikonia> thank you
[07:34] <ikonia> I can go to work now :)
[07:34] <ikonia> back in an hour
[07:34] <jussi> no not yet
[07:35] <jussi> I need something from you
[07:35] <ikonia> oh - ok
[07:35] <ikonia> be quick
[07:35] <ikonia> (not to be rude)
[07:35] <jussi> ikonia: please see pm
[07:35] <ikonia> ok
[07:36]  * tonyyarusso looks for "jussi" in CPAN
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> Clearly I need to step away from the Perl dependencies at work...
[07:36] <ikonia> laters all,
[07:43] <XYLITOL> ikonia: i am sorry but why do i have to exit chat
[07:44] <jussi> !idle | XYLITOL
[07:44] <XYLITOL> ok i have something to ask
[07:44] <XYLITOL> can i
[07:44] <XYLITOL> y or n
[07:44] <XYLITOL> just answer
[07:45] <XYLITOL> now
[07:45] <jussi> can you what?
[07:45] <XYLITOL> ask question about ubuntu
[07:45] <XYLITOL> h
[07:47] <XYLITOL> how can i go through my system in terminal
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> No.  You can't.  You were banned.  If you want support from the community, you have to wait until you can behave in a way that lets you be part of the community.  So, for the next week you are out of luck.  I would suggest consulting https://help.ubuntu.com/ and http://www.google.com/linux in the meantime.
[07:49] <mneptok> someone remmeber to -b that Kuwaiti ISP in 120m or so?
[07:50] <tonyyarusso> Too bad ubottu doesn't have a function for that.
[07:52] <tsimpson> if someone wants to rewrite Bantracker, please do :)
[07:53] <mneptok> i'll rely on the community. both to re-write BT and to remove that wide ban in a few hours. ;)
[07:54] <tsimpson> well, for ubottu that "community" is all of 2 people
[07:54]  * mneptok will take what he can get
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> tsimpson: work longer hours then, slackers!
[10:25] <bazhang> guest32778 giving out more suspect/useless advice in #ubuntu
[10:56] <bazhang> no response via PM
[14:01] <ikonia> not again
[14:02] <ikonia> !ops | joobong again
[14:02] <joobong> i am very very very very very very very very very very very sorry
[14:02] <ikonia> joobong: leave now
[14:03] <joobong> can you forgive me please
[14:03] <ikonia> joobong: leave now.
[14:03] <joobong> can you forgive me please
[14:03] <joobong> can you forgive me please
[14:03] <joobong> can you forgive me please
[14:03] <joobong> can you forgive me please
[14:03] <joobong> can you forgive me please
[14:03] <joobong> can you forgive me please
[14:03] <joobong> can you forgive me please
[14:03] <joobong> can you forgive me please
[14:03] <joobong> can you forgive me please
[14:03] <joobong> can you forgive me please
[14:03] <joobong> can you forgive me please
[14:03] <joobong> can you forgive me please
[14:03] <joobong> can you forgive me please
[14:03] <joobong> can you forgive me please
[14:03] <ikonia> !ops
[14:03] <ikonia> can we please leave this ban in place for longer than an our
[14:03] <ikonia> hour
[14:03] <gnomefreak> hes startin gway too damn early
[14:04] <gnomefreak> he comes back and i will ban him
[14:04] <gnomefreak> unless some else wants too ;)
[14:05]  * gnomefreak talking to ubottu in PM 
[14:05] <ikonia> oh come on
[14:06] <ikonia> sorry: leave
[14:06] <sorry> gnomefreak: hi
[14:06] <gnomefreak> hi and you are?
[14:06] <sorry> joobong
[14:06] <gnomefreak> sorry: please leave and come back in 24 more hurs
[14:06] <gnomefreak> hours
[14:06] <ikonia> gnomefreak: no -
[14:07] <ikonia> gnomefreak: 7 days
[14:07] <ikonia> that we the agreement
[14:07] <sorry> gnomefreak: i did
[14:07] <gnomefreak> sorry: ok come back in 7 days
[14:07] <sorry> how about 24
[14:07] <sorry> hours
[14:07] <ikonia> no
[14:07] <sorry> or 100
[14:07] <sorry> hours
[14:07] <ikonia> 7 days
[14:07] <ikonia> that is the only option for you
[14:07] <ikonia> 7 days or not at all
[14:07] <gnomefreak> sorry: how about 7 days. we can make it loger if you wish. pleae /part and come back in 7 days
[14:07] <sorry> or 1000000000000000hours
[14:07] <ikonia> ok - end this
[14:08] <gnomefreak> damn my typing sucks
[14:08] <gnomefreak> s/pleae/please
[14:08] <sorry> why do you guys try to part me
[14:08] <sorry> i am sorry
[14:08] <gnomefreak> sorry: i did due to your spamming
[14:09] <gnomefreak> sorry: now pleae /part
[14:09] <gnomefreak> dam
[14:09] <sorry> i swear to god that i will never spam you
[14:09] <gnomefreak> please
[14:09] <ikonia> remove + ban
[14:09] <ikonia> I'm fed up of this
[14:09] <sorry> sorry
[14:09] <sorry> sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:09] <gnomefreak> sorry: i dont like banning/removing/muting users so i would rather not have to do it to you if i can advoid it
[14:10] <ikonia> here we go again
[14:10] <gnomefreak> ikonia: no worries i have it under control
[14:10] <sorry> i wont do anything
[14:11]  * gnomefreak getting really tired of him
[14:12]  * gnomefreak thinks of a comment on ban now, i have no nice way to say it
[14:13] <x0x> hello why i am banned in ubuntu ?
[14:14] <gnomefreak> ikonia: you care to take this, i didnt ban him from #u
[14:14] <ikonia> gnomefreak: no problem
[14:14] <ikonia> x0x: give me two minutes and I'll have a look
[14:14] <gnomefreak> ikonia: thanks
[14:16] <ikonia> x0x: won't keep you a moment
[14:17] <bazhang> its jungli
[14:17] <ikonia> oh
[14:17] <ikonia> in that case discussion over
[14:17] <bazhang> also blockcold
[14:17] <x0x> no no
[14:17] <ikonia> x0x: you know exactly why you're banned
[14:17] <x0x> sorry but i don't know that why i am banned :(
[14:18] <ikonia> x0x: you do, the same reason you pm'd me a few minutes ago - this now makes sense
[14:18] <ikonia> olha bruder, etc
[14:18] <x0x> pm'd why i pm'd you ?
[14:18] <Pici> (is that the same person?)
[14:18] <ikonia> Pici: not %100 certain, but the mask is pretty much the same, it's an assumption not a fact
[14:18] <ikonia> x0x: I could be wrong on that
[14:19] <x0x> but give the stable reson for banning ?
[14:19] <bazhang> olha bruder would be balzac would it not
[14:19] <ikonia> either way, the user jungli is a known problem user, and you are him and you know your banned why
[14:19] <ikonia> bazhang: ahhh interesting, same ip range today
[14:19] <ikonia> happened 15 minutes before balzac joined
[14:20] <x0x> make me banned there as much you wish bye
[14:20] <ikonia> be
[14:20] <ikonia> bye
[14:21] <bazhang> [blockcold] (~x0x@122.161.26.19): x0x
[14:21] <ikonia> bazhang: I refuse to play this stupid game with someone who knows his actions are unacceptable and is now trying to evade and pretend he's not the same person
[14:22] <ikonia> when someone is willing to be honest about things, then we can progress it
[14:22] <ikonia> x0x: and versioning me will do nothing
[14:22] <ikonia> x0x: as you said, "bye" so please leave the channel
[14:23] <x0x> ikonia, are you girl ?
[14:23] <Pici> Why does it matter?
[14:23] <ikonia> that doesn't matter
[14:23] <ikonia> x0x: if you are not willing to be honest, please leave the channel as this will go no-where
[14:23] <x0x> ikonia, your nick pretend so
[14:23] <ikonia> x0x: good bye
[14:23] <gnomefreak> please tell me he isnt the same user as above.
[14:23] <ikonia> gnomefreak: no, it's not
[14:24] <Pici> no.
[14:24] <gnomefreak> ok good thanks
[14:24] <bazhang> gnomefreak, nope that was joobong
[14:24] <gnomefreak> bazhang: i thought x0x was him
[14:24] <gnomefreak> ill be back shortly
[14:25] <x0x> plz unbanned me in ubuntu :)
[14:25] <ikonia> x0x: please leave the channel unless you have something else to discuss
[14:25] <ikonia> x0x: no
[14:25] <ikonia> x0x: not until you can be honest with us
[14:26] <x0x> you ppl are annoy a good user i am not xyz troll
[14:26] <x0x> lots of ppl respect me in freenode
[14:26] <ikonia> just leave
[14:26] <ikonia> this is going nowhere
[14:27] <x0x> how much day banned to me ?
[14:27] <ikonia> until you can be honest with us
[14:27] <ikonia> and we can resolve your behaviour issues
[14:27] <x0x> i love ubuntu :)
[14:28] <bazhang> x0x, please /part the channel
[14:28] <x0x> no untill you ppl unbanned me in ubuntu
[14:28] <x0x> i am a nice guy
[14:28] <x0x> you ppl shooting the wrong guy
[14:29] <bazhang> x0x, that won't happen today.
[14:29] <bazhang> x0x, by staying and here and pushing it, the ban will be extended, so please /part the channel
[14:30] <ikonia> super
[14:30] <bazhang> had an hour long PM with him earlier today, he said to let him join ##linux and don'
[14:31] <bazhang> err don't bother him and he would stop ban evading in #ubuntu
[14:31] <ikonia> I don't care what he does in ##linux
[14:31] <bazhang> nor do I
[14:31] <ikonia> they have similar rules so he'll get removed from there
[14:31] <bazhang> he has been many many times
[14:31] <ikonia> just changed nick in #-ot
[14:32] <bazhang> yep
[14:32] <ikonia> can't stand the blatent lies/timewasting
[14:32] <Pici> I don't think its fair for this channel to be the next step in getting a ban resolved, but when the user joins for us to basically say "No, go away"
[14:32] <bazhang> the whole bit about no support in -ot though, is not written in stone
[14:32] <ikonia> Pici: until he starts admiting it rather than wasting time - what's the point
[14:32] <ikonia> why am I banned - you know why your banned, I am not him - he changes nick to the other nick name as soon as he leaves
[14:33] <bazhang> Pici, feel free to spend multiple days in PM with him, then have him lie to your face
[14:33] <ikonia> if he's straight up and sorry, I have no issue resolv ing it
[14:33] <bazhang> Pici, as I have just done
[14:33] <ikonia> but why do we need to do the dance with him every time when he's just here to waste time with lies
[14:34] <bazhang> Pici, he knows very well why he is banned, has been explained to him many times.
[14:34] <Pici> bazhang, ikonia: Thats why we have other operators here for them to talk to.  There would be no point in having -ops be on the appeals page if you were going to be speaking to the same operator that banned you in the first place.
[14:34] <ikonia> Pici: it's not about other ops
[14:34] <bazhang> Pici, feel free to unban
[14:34] <ikonia> Pici: someone who is hear to just lie and waste peoples time over and over, what's the point, when he's honest about it, we can resolve the issue
[14:35] <bazhang> he is a repeat, chronic troll in multiple channels
[14:35] <bazhang> I have tried to ask him nicely in PM to resolve this over the course of many days, with several hours spent doing so
[14:37] <ikonia> bazhang: pici has a point that if he's here to resolve a ban, then he should get the chance, my point is that if he comes in telling lies and wasting time again, why does another operator have to go through the whole lies again
[14:38] <Pici> Lets say this was some other user, not x0x.  The point of this place being the next step after talking to the operator that banned you is that someone else who is outside the situation can take a look
[14:39] <Pici> Er, not sure that second sentence made sense though...
[14:40] <bazhang> Pici, 100% in agreement
[14:42] <gnomefreak> +1
[14:42] <Pici> bazhang: Hiya
[14:42] <Pici> er, BluesKaj hiya
[14:42] <bazhang> about the first part
[14:42] <bazhang> not the not making sense part
[14:42] <Pici> bazhang: :P
[14:42] <bazhang> :)
[14:42] <BluesKaj> hi Pici
[14:44] <BluesKaj> you guys must be bored :)
[14:45] <ikonia> why ?
[14:45] <bazhang>  blockcold is now known as Jungli
[14:46] <Pici> BluesKaj: What can we do for you today?
[14:46] <topyli> BluesKaj: is there something you want to talk about? :)
[14:47] <BluesKaj> chastiising on regulars for helping in offtopic to me is a bit picky
[14:47] <BluesKaj> if some oone is banned from a (k)ubuntu chat then ban them from allrelated ones as well
[14:48] <gnomefreak> that is way over the edge IMHO
[14:48] <topyli> help is ok in general, but it's not fair to troll #ubuntu and move to -ot for support
[14:48] <BluesKaj> including offtopic
[14:48] <ikonia> BluesKaj: it's just sensible to not support a user that's been banned from a support channel
[14:48] <ikonia> that doesn't mean he can't chat in offtopic
[14:48] <ikonia> but it's a bit silly to allow him support in -ot if he's banned from #ubuntu and refusing to change his beahviour to get back in
[14:49] <ikonia> it's nothing against you supporting anyone, some great discussions have come out of support and vice/vesrsa
[14:49] <ikonia> BluesKaj: I worded my comments to you badly, and for that I apologies
[14:49] <BluesKaj> usually ppl are banned for misconduct , they should be in offtopic as well if they have been misbehaving
[14:50] <BluesKaj> ok ikonia apopolgy accepted
[14:50] <ikonia> BluesKaj: they are two seperate channels, with different rules
[14:50] <ikonia> can't ban from both for no reason
[14:50] <Pici> We don't believe in pre-emptive banning
[14:51] <BluesKaj> Pre-emptive ? heh, that's a ggod one ;0
[14:51] <BluesKaj> err good
[14:51]  * BluesKaj shakes his head ...
[14:51] <topyli> BluesKaj: if a user is known to be maliscious in all channels, then it's a freenode network issue and not up to ubuntu operators
[14:52] <BluesKaj> alright then you guys do your thing ..bye
[14:52] <Pici> You too ;)
[14:52] <Pici> darn
[14:52] <bazhang> okay got jungli in PM again
[14:52] <ikonia> that was my fault for bad wording
[14:53] <topyli> alls well that ends well
[14:53] <ikonia> he's even using the same nick after being in here denying it was him
[14:53] <ikonia> that's what frustrates me, if he was willing to resolve his ban, he would be honest
[14:53] <bazhang> I asked him the truth and stop lying
[14:53] <bazhang> err to stop
[14:53] <ikonia> not waste time saying "I'm not him, it's the wrong guy"
[14:53] <ikonia> I'm leaving him be now, it's up to someone else to resolve his ban
[14:53] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj has been very helpful in past
[14:54] <ikonia> gnomefreak: no question
[14:54] <bazhang> I remember him from my early kubuntu days with jucato
[14:57] <topyli> yeah i like blueskaj
[15:06] <abhi_nav> hello
[15:06] <bazhang> hi
[15:06] <abhi_nav> whats the procedure to bring my personal bot for my own uses in ubuntu channel?
[15:07] <bazhang> !botclone
[15:07] <abhi_nav> no no
[15:07] <bazhang> whoops
[15:07] <abhi_nav> i am using mozbots
[15:07] <bazhang> abhi_nav, why do you need a bot in ubuntu channels
[15:08] <abhi_nav> actually, for some issue. most commond is for greeting. then that look alike nick issue then my many frnds in #ubuntu-in dont have general knowledge of linux. so i have to introduce them some basic concept. i have to type so many lines. thats why
[15:08] <bazhang> abhi_nav, a speaking bot like that is not allowed
[15:09] <abhi_nav> not allowed at all? :(
[15:09] <bazhang> nope
[15:09] <abhi_nav> so I only use supybot?
[15:09] <Pici> I'm confused.
[15:09] <bazhang> abhi_nav, there is already ubottu
[15:09] <abhi_nav> ^^^
[15:09] <Pici> abhi_nav: What channel do you want to bring your bot into?
[15:09] <abhi_nav> but ubottu dont have factoids for basic or common concepts
[15:10] <bazhang> sure it does
[15:10] <abhi_nav> Pici, both in #ubuntu, #ubuntu-in and my personal pm
[15:10] <abhi_nav> bazhang, can you again give me that factoid link then?
[15:10] <bazhang> abhi_nav, the factoid link? or the botclone one
[15:10] <abhi_nav> factoid of ubottu
[15:10] <abhi_nav> i tell you all e.g.
[15:10] <Pici> abhi_nav: We only control #ubuntu here, you would need to talk to the operators in #ubuntu-in for their decision.
[15:11] <bazhang> !factoid > abhi_nav
[15:11] <abhi_nav> e.g. lots of my new comer friend dont know that .exe is nothing to do with linux. so to tell them the difference i have to type so many lines. like that
[15:11] <Pici> abhi_nav: If your bot is interacting with users in #ubuntu then we could not allow that.
[15:11] <abhi_nav> ok
[15:12] <Pici> abhi_nav: It doesn't matter if its a supybot or a mozbot or whatever.
[15:12] <jussi> !wine
[15:12] <abhi_nav> Pici, no no. it wll not automaticaly interact. it wll interact only when I told him to do so.
[15:12] <abhi_nav> where is .exe explaination here?
[15:12] <Pici> "WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux"
[15:13] <abhi_nav> no but they new comer thing that .exe is standard and linux dont have support for it. actually .exe is not standard. its notihng to do with linux. its win file format. that i have to tell
[15:13] <abhi_nav> ok btw
[15:14] <abhi_nav> still my bot is not allowed if he is not interacting with users automatically? it wll only interact when i told him  so? then also not allowed?
[15:14] <Pici> abhi_nav: Not in #ubuntu.
[15:14] <abhi_nav> in #ubuntu-in?
[15:15] <Pici> abhi_nav: You'd need to contact the operators there to discuss it.
[15:15] <abhi_nav> they are not here? I mean this is comman channel for all ubuntu ops, isnt it? correct me if i am wrong
[15:16] <Pici> abhi_nav: This channel is only for operators of the core Ubuntu channels.  International (Loco) channel operators may be found in #ubuntu-irc
[15:16] <abhi_nav> ok I wll ask them now.
[15:16] <abhi_nav> thank you all.
[15:16] <abhi_nav> :)
[15:16] <Pici> You're welcome
[15:16] <ikonia> abhi_nav: if you message chanserv with access #ubuntu-in list
[15:16] <abhi_nav> ikonia, yah sure. thanks
[15:16] <abhi_nav> bye. :)
[15:16] <ikonia> abhi_nav: you'll get a list of the ubuntu-in operators, who you can contact directly
[15:16] <abhi_nav> hmm
[15:17] <abhi_nav> ok i go now
[15:17] <Pici> ok
[15:17] <ikonia> I've just joined #ubuntu-in as I thought there was a bot in there - there is, lubot2 is there
[15:17] <bazhang> so I made clear to jungli no more lying, no more harassing users, being offtopic etc
[15:18] <bazhang> we'll see if it takes
[15:19] <Pici> Well, he has a chance to be 'normal' in -offtopic
[15:19] <bazhang> yep
[15:20] <bazhang> he admits it all by the way
[15:20] <ikonia> I wonder how it would feel if we wasted his time
[15:20] <ikonia> when he asked why he's banned asked "who are you"
[15:20] <ikonia> when he says jungli say "I don't know him, who what did he do"
[15:21] <ikonia> and just play as dumb back, I wonder how that would take for hiim
[15:21] <gnomefreak> shouldnt matter what "he" did unless he == jungli
[15:21] <gnomefreak> but my opinion
[16:04] <h00k> my f-bomb hilight didn't work, apparently
[16:05] <bazhang> seems to be team trolling
[16:05] <Pici> I was just catching my hilight
[16:44] <h00k> I have that on hilight, apparently. I wonder why it didn't show
[16:45] <h00k> /hilight WORDGOESHERE -channels #ubuntu,ubuntu-offtopic -word
[16:45] <h00k> yes?
[16:45] <Pici> h00k: no, WORDGOESHERE needs to be the last argument
[16:45] <h00k> ooh, dangit.
[16:45] <h00k> /hilight -channels #ubuntu,ubuntu-offtopic -word fuck
[16:45] <h00k> ...
[16:45]  * h00k facepalms
[16:46] <Pici> yes, like that
[16:46] <h00k> Yeah, I didn't mean to throw that out.
[16:46] <Pici> I know
[16:46]  * Pici pats
[16:46] <h00k> cool, I have some wrong hilights in there, but whatever
[16:47] <h00k> I kan lurn somday
[17:28] <h00k> !censorship is ~= free speech
[17:28] <bazhang> heh
[17:29] <bazhang> x3 and twisted are a handful
[17:29] <h00k> yes
[17:29] <h00k> twisted has been warned twice about language.
[17:29] <h00k> I'm not messing around now :(
[17:29] <bazhang> yep
[17:30] <h00k> I think that's the right alias for an alias, anyway.
[17:31] <bazhang> thought it was !factoid is <alias> xyz
[17:31] <Pici> it is
[17:31] <h00k> !free speech
[17:32] <Pici> =~ / ~=  is for doing sed style factoid modifications.
[17:32] <h00k> ooh.
[17:32] <h00k> !censorship is free speech
[17:32] <h00k> heh
[17:32] <funkyHat> !censorship is <alias>free speech
[17:32] <bazhang> war is peace!
[17:33] <h00k> oh, eah, I for got alias.
[17:33] <h00k> and can not ty pe today
[17:33] <Pici> freedom is slavery
[17:33] <Pici> ignorance is strength!
[17:33] <funkyHat> Pici: ⢁)
[17:33] <bazhang> hehe
[17:34] <bazhang> !1984
[17:34] <h00k> http://friendsofirony.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/129085098846493290.jpg
[17:34] <funkyHat> That is my favourite factoid name
[17:37] <bazhang> osmodivs the gnaa guy?
[17:38] <Pici> Not everyone in mexico is.
[17:38] <bazhang> true
[17:38]  * h00k facepalms
[17:43] <Pici> howowowos
[17:44] <bazhang> he seems to be imssing a verb
[17:44] <bazhang> err missing
[17:44] <h00k> or two
[18:11] <IdleOne> afternoon
[18:11] <bazhang> hi
[18:11] <IdleOne> h00k: isn't it so sad that we have to set those highlights :/
[18:11] <IdleOne> sup bazhang
[18:12] <bazhang> IdleOne, you pinged me earlier sorry I was not around
[18:12] <IdleOne> was last night I believe
[18:12] <bazhang> well time zones, but yeah
[18:12] <IdleOne> no worries. mneptok ended up removing the person from this channel if I read the scroll back correctly
[18:13] <bazhang> razornok or the like
[18:13] <IdleOne> yeah
[18:14] <bazhang> he went on to another channel and continued there as well, got banned too
[18:15] <IdleOne> Well as was pointed out to me his question was on topic BUT the reason he was removed and forwarded here was his attitude and unwillingness to help others help him
[18:16] <bazhang> yep, refused to read any docs
[18:16] <IdleOne> or answer any questions
[18:16] <Jungli> i love you ubuntu
[18:16] <bazhang> Jungli, hi
[18:16] <IdleOne> Jungli: Hello. How can we help you today?
[18:16] <bazhang> Jungli, you know why you were banned, correct?
[18:20] <IdleOne> Jungli: In order for the ops team to be able to do our job effectively it requires that when users join this channel they state the reason they have joined and also answer any questions asked of them
[18:20] <IdleOne> darn!
[18:20] <bazhang> hah
[18:41] <Pici> IdleOne: Did you still need me (you pmed me some time last night)
[18:41] <IdleOne> Pici: nope all good now
[18:42] <h00k> IdleOne: that was a lot of text for saying "Whaddya want?!"
[18:42] <IdleOne> reason why I pinged you and bazhang last night was because I was looking for some sort of backup with that razernok person.
[18:42] <IdleOne> h00k: yeah it was
[18:42] <IdleOne> but much less abrasive :)
[18:58] <ikonia> operators, can you put some thought into if bzshells should be allowed in ubuntu without moderation, the same way as tor/freenode webchat etc
[18:58] <ikonia> bzshells is getting to be a host for more and more bandodging and mocking of a ban, the staff of bzshells do not respond to complaints so I am raising this issue
[18:59] <bazhang> ikonia surumply from earlier? (balzac)
[18:59] <ikonia> that's one of the reasons yes
[19:00] <ikonia> have a think about your stance on it as I'm going to raise it as an issue shortly
[19:17] <topyli> ikonia: i am unaware of this. would you like to write up something on the mailing list?
[19:18] <topyli> Jung_Lee: please pick a nick and tell us how we can help
[19:19] <Jung_Lee> topyli: plz unbanned me in Ubuntu
[19:20] <topyli> Jung_Lee: why are you banned? what was your nick back then when you were banned?
[19:20] <Jung_Lee> my nick Is Jungli i am banned for using word ubantards :(
[19:21] <topyli> nobody gets banned for just that
[19:21] <Jung_Lee> no only this i am banned i say sorry to ubuntu channel for that
[19:22] <Jung_Lee> plz unbanned me and give one more chance at there :)
[19:22] <Jung_Lee> i love ubuntu :)
[19:22] <h00k> Jung_Lee: the last I saw, you were ban evading
[19:23] <h00k> Jung_Lee: You'll want to speak with Pici
[19:23] <Jung_Lee> if ppl banned me there is alright but after a wwek plz unbanned me
[19:24] <h00k> Jung_Lee: Do you understand why you were banned in the first place?
[19:24] <Jung_Lee> no !
[19:25] <h00k> Jung_Lee: perhaps you should /part, read the !guidelines, and come back later.
[19:25] <h00k> !guidelines > Jung_Lee
[19:25] <h00k> Jung_Lee: when you can understand what you did wrong.
[19:26] <Jung_Lee> ok ;)
[19:26] <h00k> Jung_Lee: for instance, trolling, foul language, ban evading.
[19:27] <Jung_Lee> ok lets chat
[19:27] <h00k> I don't have anything else to discuss with you in this channel.
[19:27] <Jung_Lee> h00k: whats your first girlfriend name ?
[19:27] <h00k> Please /part and return when you understand the !guidelines.
[19:28] <Jung_Lee> ok i don't mind if you ban me there
[19:28] <Jung_Lee> lets chat
[19:28] <Jung_Lee> or tell me ...
[19:28] <Jung_Lee> any channel for chatting ?
[19:28] <topyli> Jung_Lee: please leave the personal questions and concentrate on your behavior on #ubuntu
[19:29] <Jung_Lee> topyli: i say at above i don't mind if you ban me there
[19:29] <Jung_Lee> lets chat
[19:29] <h00k> Jung_Lee: As per the /topic, you need to /part now, unless you'd like to discuss your behavior in #ubuntu.
[22:08] <Blayzin> How can I give my linux server a free domain? (don't care which one [i.e. .com .net .org .info])
[22:09]  * h00k points Blayzin to the /topic
[22:09] <h00k> Blayzin: this isn't a support channel, perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic could better help you
[22:10] <Blayzin> I came into the ubuntu channel dummy
[22:10] <Blayzin> my problem is on ubuntu
[22:10] <h00k> Blayzin: this isn't an Ubuntu support channel
[22:10] <Blayzin> I entered #ubuntu so yes it is
[22:11] <h00k> Blayzin: this is #ubuntu-ops
[22:12] <h00k> Blayzin: were you forwarded here by somebody?
[22:12] <funkyHat> @btlogin
[22:13] <h00k> Blayzin: It looks like IdleOne forwarded you here, you'll have to speak with him
[22:15] <h00k> ubottu: tell Blayzin about guidelines
[22:18] <Blayzin> I typed /join #ubuntu so I am in the ubuntu channel
[22:20] <h00k> Blayzin: it looks like IdleOne had you forwarded here to discuss conduct in #ubuntu
[22:23] <jussi> Jordan_U: hi?
[22:23] <h00k> Blayzin: from what I see, you had a bit of a conversation with iceroot yesterday, he wasn't very helpful to you, IdleOne wanted to /query (personal message) you about it
[22:24] <h00k> Blayzin: am I understanding this correctly?
[22:27]  * h00k pokes Blayzin 
[22:31]  * jussi prods Jordan_U
[22:32]  * jpds pokes jussi.
[22:34] <h00k> Blayzin: If you're around, we can take care of this and get you back into #ubuntu
[22:58] <Blayzin> I am in ubuntu
[22:58] <Blayzin> I typed /join #ubuntu so I am in the ubuntu channel
[22:58] <Blayzin> DUH
[23:06] <funkyHat> Blayzin: if you type /topic you will see that you are in fact in the #ubuntu-ops channel. You are banned from #ubuntu in such a way that you will automatically join this channel if you try to join #ubuntu.