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joshuahhello, I have a rather old computer that uses an IDE hdd and cannot boot to usb (no cd/dvd rom either). so I installed ubuntu server, and when I put it back in I got a grub prompt. a minute or two in #grub and it boots.  now I get "Filesystem has errors: /" after "fsck / terminated w/status 4", does anyone know what the problem might be?00:28
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pmatulisjoshuah: sounds like hard drive failure, how old is it?01:37
joshuahpretty old... pentium 3, just got it from a teacher01:37
pmatulisjoshuah: capacity?01:38
joshuah20gb01:38
pmatulisoh boy01:38
qman__with drives that old it's hit or miss01:39
qman__they built them better then, so the ones that still work tend to work for a while01:39
qman__but it's so old, that failure is quite likely01:39
joshuahahh, well fedora+LXDE was doing ok, though a bit laggy w/a couple of crashes while updating01:39
joshuahand I take the hdd out to use another computer to install OSs on, so I had to do that for this one01:40
joshuahthe fedora installed asked me what disk(s) I want to install on01:40
joshuahso I don't know if I did it right this time, because the bootloader has remnants of my other computer on it01:41
qman__well, could be controller failure too01:41
qman__I suggest getting something like spinrite and testing the disk01:41
qman__not free software IIRC, though I'm sure there's an alternative01:41
qman__oh, DFT01:42
qman__that's free and it'll work with any IDE disk01:42
joshuahon the livecd?01:42
qman__no01:43
qman__http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Hard-Disk-Utils/IBM-Hitachi-Drive-Fitness-Test.shtml01:43
joshuahthanks01:44
smoserkirkland, new cloud-utils uploaded.01:44
vorianhey guys, I am having a strange problem with one of my sites.  I have all my websites in one of my home directories, but one of the sites has been "rooted" and it's showing access denied on a browser02:00
ccheneyDaviey, "<tgardner> ccheney, Bisecting: 2 revisions left to test after this" :-)02:01
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vorianso it's WP and I run 'chmod 777 -R /mc'  and get a 'Operation not permitted' for every file in the mc/ dir02:02
vorianI have other sites in the same /home dir that work fine, it's just this one dir I'm having problems with02:04
ccheneyDaviey, found the patch causing the problem, not sure what to do about it yet02:53
ccheneykirkland, ^02:53
Smaughey all03:42
Smaughow do I tell what users exist on a system?03:42
qman__cat /etc/passwd03:46
Smaugty03:47
kirklandccheney: Daviey: nice work...  let's make sure the kernel team advises us on next steps05:17
ccheneykirkland, yea, will be talking to tgardner in the morning05:24
ccheneykirkland, i would know more tonight but was stuck at the grocery store for nearly 2 hours :-\05:24
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CppIsWeirdwhat do i google for if i want to figure out how to use ubuntus enterprise cloud stuff in the server version?06:16
jmarsdenhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC06:19
CppIsWeirdthank you. :-)06:20
jmarsdenYou're welcome :)06:23
CppIsWeirdis there any way to set up a printer on linux such that the windows machine does not need the driver for the specific printer? im trying to avoid installing the crapware that comes with HP driver packages.06:38
SpamapSCppIsWeird: yes, Samba can host the print drivers .. http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/18850.html06:40
CppIsWeirdi have it shared in samba. upon "connecting" to the printer it prompted me for windows drivers.06:40
CppIsWeird(i dont know if that link addresses this)06:40
CppIsWeirdit appears however that my samba is already set up like that. (refering to what i read in the link)06:42
CppIsWeirdminus some packages that i cannot find the the repositorie06:45
CppIsWeirds06:45
jmarsdenCppIsWeird: So you have all the needed Windows driver files for that printer present on your printer$ share, and the client PC is not using them?  Recheck they are all there and all visible and readable from the client PC.  If they are there, the client really should be able to use them.06:50
CppIsWeirdhmm, there seems to be no printer drives in the folder that the samba config file references.06:52
jmarsdenDid you put the Windows driver files there, or not? :)06:56
jmarsdenSamba cannot guess which printer you want to serve drivers for... you have to copy the files there yourself.06:57
CppIsWeirdoh06:57
CppIsWeirdwell if i had the windows drivers in their raw form in the first place i wouldnt be trying to do all of this :P06:57
jmarsdenDidn't the article pointed to earlier talk about copying the files??  I think it did.06:57
CppIsWeirdHP does not realease "drivers" the release this huge install06:58
CppIsWeirdi skimmed over it too quickly. sorry.06:58
jmarsdenCppIsWeird: So install it once, maybe in a Windows virtual machine you can trash later, and grab the files you need from that...06:58
jmarsdenJust like a Windows admin would... :)06:59
CppIsWeirdi'll give it a shot. thanks for the help.07:03
twbUrgh.  My google-fu is weak.  What's the sources.list entry for the lucid "partners" repo?07:17
CppIsWeirdjmarsden, so heres a stupid question. once I install the drivers, where do i go to get them in windows?07:18
twbLooks like it's deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu lucid{,-backports,-proposed,-updates,-security} partner07:19
SpamapSCppIsWeird: you find the printer on the network, and double-click the printer. :)07:23
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SpamapSttx: good morning08:02
ttxSpamapS: yo08:03
ttxSpamapS: how is Velocity ? Did you do your BoF already ?08:03
unewbieMTecknology: this time i install guest 8.04 on host 8.04. but i can't find a way to ssh the client08:18
unewbiethe guest08:18
SpamapSttx: yes we did the BoF on Tuesday night08:18
SpamapSttx: it was mostly Ubuntu dev type people Monty Taylor was there for instance.. but we had two users show up, including Jason from Wikia and a gentleman deploying Lucid onto 200+ library servers08:19
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fishcookerif i want to install lite window manager like openbox on ubuntu-server. except apt-get install openbox ... what package should be added? if i need simple gui after start?!09:04
twbfishcooker: we don't recommend installing a GUI on servers.09:05
twbfishcooker: however, if you want to run a local GUI on the server, you will need both the server (xorg) and client (openbox/xterm/gnome/whatever) components of the windowing system.09:05
fishcookerif i insist what package i needed09:06
fishcookerohhh tx twb09:06
fishcookerfor the quick response09:06
fishcookeri mean thanx.you twb for the quick response09:07
CppIsWeirdfishcooker, for a lightweight desktop you can just apt-get the xubuntu-desktop package.09:09
CppIsWeirdit will install the lightweight xfce package09:09
CppIsWeirdor lubuntu-desktop09:10
CppIsWeirdwhich i think is more lightweight than xubuntu-desktop09:10
twbIndeed, one of the -desktop metapackages will give you a full desktop environment.09:10
uvirtbotNew bug: #598385 in munin (main) "munin plugin exim_mailqueue has incorrect graph configuration" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59838509:11
Jeeves_Morning09:21
_rubenbah, mailx package went from transitional to virtual package09:40
_rubenbreaking my universal preseed file :/09:40
fishcookerCppIsWeird: thanks 4 reply ... u should try openbox... like you i thought xubuntu the fastest but... u can give openbox try09:42
CppIsWeirdk09:42
fishcookerill try lubuntu09:42
fishcookerasap :D09:43
CppIsWeirdxfce has been getting fat lately09:43
fishcookeryip2 the mouse is getting fatter and fatter LoL09:43
huatsmorning09:43
ttxDaviey: how successful have you been with the GWT patch ?09:48
twbI don't know why you want X anyway09:57
Davieyttx: I'm trying it now10:00
Davieyttx: Do we have an update from ccheney?10:01
ttxDaviey: they reduced the bisection to a given commit10:02
ttxsome non-obvious non-blocking R/W fix10:02
ttxThere have been "further improvements" recently in the same area by the same author, so I suspect there are two options: back up that commit in recent kernels, or apply the latest crack10:03
ttxbut that's far away from my turf, so I'll let the kernel guys look into it10:04
Davieyttx: cool, do they think we'll have a resolution today?10:05
ttxDaviey: the comments from ccheny or rtg didn't really get into that detail, unfortunately10:06
Davieyttx: ok, /me's hoping10:06
ttxDaviey: what's the status of bug 588410 ?10:54
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 588410 in eucalyptus "dynamic block storage should use virtio" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58841010:54
Davieyttx: Fix0rd, in bzr10:54
ttxpending upload ?10:55
Davieyttx: yah.. Am i right in saying that if this 1.7 works out well, we push 1.7 to maverick?10:55
ttxyes10:55
Davieyttx: Ok, will be fixed in this upload :)10:55
ttxDaviey: could you mark those Fixcommitted with a comment ?10:55
Davieyttx: The attached patch wasn't quite valid.10:55
ttx+ bug 59542110:55
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 595421 in eucalyptus "Eucalyptus doesn't start with latest stable version of "Groovy"" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59542110:55
ttxDaviey: right, it was a patch for /their/ build system10:56
Davieyttx: No, i mean bug 58841010:56
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 588410 in eucalyptus "dynamic block storage should use virtio" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58841010:56
ttxzul: status of bug 574554 ?10:57
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 574554 in tgt "tgtd needs init script or upstart job" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57455410:57
gnoobI have problems with my ubuntu-server.  it will not boot up correctly. I did just remove anything not default in fstab and on boot it "stops" on:    fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2   /dev/sda1: clean, 60667/366440 files, 319779/1464576 blocks          ,,  and nothing more happens appearently...   Why does it stop here??     (I can ssh into server though, and server is really up and running..)   strange11:14
gnoobis it just doing a diskcheck?? lol    ..   happens every time i reboot though..  and not possible to enter from ttys..11:16
CppIsWeirdi was installing eucalyptus-cc and i accidently hit enter in the middle of typing the IP subnet. how do i run through that configuration prompt again?11:20
_rubenCppIsWeird: usualy dpkg-reconfigure packagename would do the trick11:33
CppIsWeird_ruben, thats what i thought, but it doesnt prompt me for any information11:38
e-DIO-thi there guys11:41
fishcookerhi too, howdy11:45
_rubenCppIsWeird: could try adding -plow11:49
_rubenor you'd need to dpkg-reconfigure one of it's dependencies (like a -common package or so)11:50
e-DIO-ti got a problem on a server's fstab11:52
e-DIO-tsame subnet of another server, same fstab, same nfs partition to mount. One mounts it on reboot...the other won't.11:52
e-DIO-tps: anyway, the one who doesn't work on startup, works running "mount -a"11:54
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twbShort of removing the relvant package, what is the best way to blacklist an upstart service?12:12
CppIsWeird_ruben, i figured it out, apt-get --purge remove packagename12:16
jdstrandhallyn: re --without-esx> I don't know the history to that other than to say that we inherit that from Debian starting with 0.7.5-312:25
jdstrand(so lucid and maverick at present)12:26
gnoobI have problems with my ubuntu-server.  it will not boot up correctly. I did just remove anything not default in fstab and on boot it "stops" on:    fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2   /dev/sda1: clean, 60667/366440 files, 319779/1464576 blocks          ,,  and nothing more happens appearently...   Why does it stop here??     (I can ssh into server though, and server is really up and running..)12:47
gnoob(this error message is shown in tty7..  I dont even have gdm installed..  strange?)12:50
_rubenits the new graphical splash stuff, probably isnt liking your gfx card or so12:51
twbApparently you're not allowed to remove it because it's a core part of the system12:52
twb...in the same way IE is a "core" part of Windows, I suspect :-/12:52
fishcookergnoob: do you have any backup of your fstab12:52
fishcooker?12:53
twbAFAICT it's main job is to make lucid completely fail to boot on my old systems with i8xx and i9xx GPUs.12:53
gnoobfishcooker :)   Thanks I will try to put "quite splash nomodeset" in the grubconfigfile.   I really believe there is a chance that this will fix it :)   If that doesnt work ill put the fstab file on som pastbin site :)13:00
_rubenor just remove the 'quiet splash' part and have a nice verbose boot experience13:01
twb_ruben: you can't prevent lucid *install media* from loading a framebuffer.13:03
twbWell, except by running them on a machine that physically has no GPU, but only serial13:04
gnoobnice info _ruben and twb  :) thanks a lot13:04
twbI don't remember whether removing "splash" from boot options on an installed system did what I wanted; I'm not sure I even *have* a lucid host with nonvolatile storage.13:07
zulttx: i need foundations to look at it still13:18
ttxit's not obvious you pinged them from the bug status13:19
ttxcould you add a quick comment ?13:19
zulsure13:19
ttxI'll raise it at Release meeting today13:19
zuldone13:23
uvirtbotNew bug: #598476 in mysql-5.1 (main) "MySQL server fails to load on boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59847613:26
gnoobGRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nomodeset"      now it stops saying: fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2  /dev/sda1: clean, 50667/366480 files, 56543N/6546754N blocks    Ill send fstab to pastebin in a sec13:31
gnoobtrying to uncomment this line too:  #GRUB_TERMINAL=console  (strange that this is not uncommented by default on a server edition with no x.. ??13:33
gnoobhmm maybe this applies only to the grub screen...13:34
dholbachhi guys13:34
dholbachit's me again - more interest in giving server related sessions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Prep ? :)13:34
sommermorning13:35
zuldholbach: im volunteering ttx and SpamapS :)13:42
dholbachzul!13:42
dholbachzul: you have an action down somewhere about giving a session13:42
gnoobhttp://pastebin.com/cZcUbD7U    This is my fstab file13:42
lauhello dholbach you mean for monday 12th 16-17utc server rather than dev ?13:42
dholbachzul: ttx is already giving a session13:42
ttxzul: :P13:43
dholbachlau: I was talking about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Prep13:43
zuldholbach: i did the last ubuntu dev week session for server13:43
ccheneyDaviey, ttx, rtg has a new server package for me to try, testing it out now13:50
ccheneyDaviey, if this test works i think he will be uploading the new package13:54
wallydodoserverpronto.com is down....13:54
ccheneyactually i think it already is uploaded, but just yesterday13:55
wallydodoanyone heard anything about serverpronto.com ??13:55
* ttx wonders how the downtime of serverpronto.com is related to Ubuntu Server13:56
wallydodocos my ubuntu server is on serverpronto!13:58
wallydodoalthough it may be a tad off-topic, just thought someone else might share my pain here13:58
ccheneyactually i am not fully awake yet, it is not the version in the archive its a modified version of what was uploaded yesterday13:59
uvirtbotNew bug: #598485 in bacula (main) "package bacula-director-mysql 5.0.1-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59848514:01
smoserzul, ttx you have a suggestion on where to put cloud-init user data wiki page ? should it be on help. or wiki. ?14:03
zullike how to use it page?14:03
ttxsmoser: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/... ?14:04
zulttx: i concur14:04
smoserhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/UserData-CloudInit14:05
smosersound good ?14:05
ttxhmmm14:06
ttxsmoser: since this is relevant for EC2 i'm not sure it should be under "UEC"14:06
ttxWhy not https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CloudInit ?14:06
smoseri believe this is hitting at a discussion on ccloud ml14:07
smoseri guess i can link to it from under UEC. but i think to improve its "discoverability" it should be findable there.14:08
ttxsmoser: keep CloudInit... and move it once the name changes... not the other way around14:09
ttxespecially if the common name ends up not being UEC14:09
smoserobviously it is movable, but ok.14:10
Davieyccheney: Sorry, can you clarify?14:15
MTecknologyunewbie: I'm guessing you don't know what the ip is either14:15
ccheneyDaviey, i'm testing a kernel that is based off yesterdays 2.6.35-6 with the problematic patch removed (i think)14:16
nascentmindIn pam why is pam_faildelay.so is written at the top of pam.d/login file. When authenticating wouldn't that module be executed first for auth?14:17
Davieyccheney: Oh nice.. Do you happen to have a url to the patch that was dropped?14:18
Davieyccheney: Leave it for 2 mins, we'll talk :)14:18
ccheneyDaviey, http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=cc56f7de7f00d188c7c4da1e9861581853b9e92f14:18
ccheneybrb14:19
zaajAny opinions on feasibility of loading ubuntu server on an old PII 330 with 256Mb RAM as a lower power personal shell account server?14:27
e-DIO-ti'd rather run arch/gentoo zaaj, but i could work if you got no compilation / hard testing purposes14:29
dholbachsemi-last-call: UDW sessions up for grabs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Prep14:29
zaajd-DIO-t: Yeah, just looking for a place I can log in and look at how things work from outside work's network mostly, so just running console client programs (like an IRC client :-)14:33
fremapesuaHello everyone...14:33
Shinhanafter fixing my problem with dnsmasq, DHCP and DNS are working and I have internet on my linux box, but not internet on the rest of my network? Can someone take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9509066#post9509066 ? Last post has interfaces and iptables where I think problem might be lying. Thanks14:35
zaajShinhan: is forwarding turned on in the kernel?14:39
ShinhanYea, friend told me to put 1 in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward14:39
Shinhanthat?14:39
zaajShinhan, yeah that, so that should be OK then.14:40
zaajThat is, if it still says 1 when you "cat" /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward back out14:40
ShinhanI'll check it now14:41
zaajIt's been a long time since I've set up a linux masquerading gateway, so I would probably have to start reading some docs on it again, like those in http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/firewall-examples.html14:44
zaajThat URL's main example scrit comments stat that the default action for FORWARD is DROP, so there's more than the two POSTROUTING and one INPUT rule you've added required.14:47
Shinhaneh? its 0 now o.O14:48
ShinhanI changed it now to 1 and cat says its 1, I'll have to try it now.14:49
ShinhanBut first, what other rule would I have to add?14:49
Shinhanand is it possible that ip forwarding gets somehow turned off on system restart? do I need to add something to rc_init?14:50
Shinhanactually, I think I'll just try do what that file says14:52
Shinhanone thing, since I have two internal interfaces, can I just duplicate the lines concerning EXTIF to call EXTIF1 and EXTIF2?14:53
zaajI thing EXTIF should be the External InterFace14:54
zaajs/thing/think/14:55
Shinhanyeah, i meant INTIF14:55
zaajin that case, your guess seems reasonable to me without checking the details (like I said, I"d have to read thru that file too)14:55
Shinhanok, disconecting now to try this out14:56
smoserttx, http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/j-zerocopy/14:58
smoserthat mentions java using java.nio.channels.FileChannel transferTo using sendfile14:59
smoserDaviey, lp:~daviey/new-and-improved-uber-euca2ools15:21
smoser?15:21
* dholbach gives smoser a 'ü' :)15:22
* smoser tries to turn the ':' key on its side and merge it into the 'u'15:23
hallynkirkland: for converting daemons from sysv to upstart, what is the process?  Do we just do it, or do we go through some m-l to try and get the /etc/init/X.conf file reviewed?15:24
hallynkirkland: i ask you bc you did the libcgroup merge :)15:24
* dholbach hands smoser scalpel, drill, rasp, swab, screw driver and tape15:24
hallynand i'm wondering what the process should be for converting libcgroup, which i think is the right way to address the bug about libvirt not starting until after libcgroup15:24
kirklandhallyn: i usually just "do it"15:24
kirklandzul: ^15:24
smoserüber15:25
kirklandhallyn: zul is working on doing it for a bunch of server packages15:25
hallynzul: is libcgroup one of them?15:25
smoserhallyn, its probably not a bad idea to ask zul to take a look. and if its other than simple, Keybuk15:25
hallynIf so, then i can just comment that in the bug :)15:25
zulno...usually after the conversion is done you have to get it reviewed by the review team15:25
hallynzul - was that 'no' in response to whether you're doing libcgroup?15:26
zulhallyn: sorry as in "no" im not doing libcgroup15:27
zulthat reminds me15:28
hallynzul: bleh :)15:28
hallynthanks anyway15:28
zulhallyn: no problem :)15:28
hallynI'll just ask for a bug to be submitted against the libcgroup package, and then probably grab it15:29
hallynand then i have a documentation question.  When there are known shortcomings (like libvirt not properly depending on libcgroup starting) and known workarounds published in the luanchpad bugs, do we consider that sufficient documentation?  or is there another step we can take (like release notes or something)?15:31
hallynkirkland: ^15:31
kirklandhallyn: release notes, in some cases, are appropriate15:31
kirklandhallyn: particularly for important packages15:32
hallynwhat sort of release notes though?  per-package?15:32
kirklandhallyn: we also have community driven documentation at help.ubuntu.com/community15:32
kirklandhallyn: let me show you ....15:32
* kirkland grabs a link15:32
* hallyn goes to look15:32
ccheneyDaviey, is 1.7 ready yet? iirc you wanted me to kick it a bit15:32
hallynlook at that, 'Release notes'15:32
Davieyccheney: it'll be hitting the archive in an hour or so!15:33
ccheneyDaviey, great :)15:33
kirklandhallyn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes15:33
kirklandhallyn: those were the Lucid GA release notes15:33
hallynand can we add to those at any time?15:33
ccheneyanyone have docs on how to setup a local uec install server (tftp i suppose)?15:33
hallyni can think of at least two things to add off the bat :)15:33
ccheneyi'm still using god awful slow usb sticks15:33
hallynccheney: faster than cd though no?  :)15:34
Davieyccheney: yeah, you need tftp..15:35
nascentmindhi can somebody help me with ldap?15:35
kirklandhallyn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/TechnicalOverview <--- is the release notes page for Maverick15:35
nascentmindwhen i do a getent passwd i am not getting ldap users at all.15:35
ccheneyhallyn, maybe, i'm not sure my usb stick seems slow15:35
Davieyccheney: you need to set your DHCP Bootp option aswell.15:35
kirklandhallyn: under "Known Issues"15:35
Shinhanyay, net is working. thanks for the help :)15:35
hallynkirkland: ok so i can add things to maverick, but should i also add them to the lucid once if they apply?15:36
ccheneyDaviey, can you write me an email explaining it in case i have to redo it later, or point me to a doc? :)15:36
* ccheney hugs Daviey :)15:36
Davieyccheney: When are you planning to do it?15:36
nascentmindwhen I do a ldapsearch with the options i get results of users. but when i do getent passwd with ldap.conf options set my logs in auth.log say invalid credentials.15:36
Davieyccheney / kirkland: We have it in our mission to document this stuff anyway! :)15:37
nascentmindalso my bind cn contains a domainname\username.15:37
ccheneyDaviey, probably once the new 1.7 is in the archive, if you don't have time to document it by then as soon as you can get it to, not super high priority as i can still use usb15:38
CppIsWeirdwhat are flush-1, flush-8, and flush-9, processes?15:38
Davieyccheney: okay.. i probably won't have time by EoP today.. but can certainly get your in the right direction on Monday?15:38
ccheneyi have gige switches at home so i think it should be much faster than my using my usb :)15:38
ccheneyDaviey, ok sounds great :)15:38
Davieyccheney: hands off installation ++15:38
ShinhanI followed http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/firewall-examples.html Since it doesnt seem to have been written with ubuntu in mind, I made /etc/init.d/rc.firewall-iptables instead of /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall-iptables15:38
ShinhanBut it also says I should put another file into /etc/rc.d/init.d/ which doesnt exists15:39
Shinhanwhere should I put it so it starts up on boot?15:39
kirklandhallyn: not quite ... those pages are "owned" by the release team15:39
kirklandhallyn: there is a procedure for adding items, let me grab that for you ...15:39
hallynDaviey: can you cc: me onthat email about tftp+dhcp to ccheney?  :)15:40
ccheneyDaviey, i knew a bit about how tftp, bootp, etc work but its been so long since i last needed it i forgot most of it, used it for installing sparc hardware back in early part of last decade, heh15:40
Davieyhah15:40
kirklandhallyn: okay, in a bug that needs to be release-noted, you click "also affects project" and enter "ubuntu-release-notes"15:41
DavieyTBH, tftp is annoying.. it always breaks when setting it up :(15:41
hallynkirkland: ok, so in the meantime, is there someplace 'official' where we should put workarounds resulting from launchpad bugs?15:41
kirklandhallyn: and you propose the text15:41
hallynoh15:41
kirklandhallyn: just in the bug itself15:41
hallynok, thanks.15:41
ccheneyyou bugtask it to release notes iirc15:41
ccheneybut yea there is more to it than just that15:41
hallyncan i be pretty liberal with the 'also-affects release-notes' trick?  :)  or do they get cranky?15:41
ccheneyhallyn, probably should look at the wiki page wherever it is15:42
ccheneyhallyn, best not to annoy slangasek ;-)15:42
Davieyccheney / kirkland / smoser: Delay on 1.7.. failing to start. :(15:43
mgarciaisaiahi there... anyone who can help with an amazon ec2 problem?15:46
Davieymgarciaisaia: smoser can :)15:48
smoserthanks Daviey15:49
Davieysmoser: np15:49
Shinhanhttp://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts says the script need to be different, but there is no way I would know how to change it. Is there a version of http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/firewall-examples.html for ubuntu? And how big a problem is missing LSB information15:49
smoser"don't ask to ask, just ask" (its in the topic, mgarciaisaia )15:49
mgarciaisaiawasn't very sure about this being the place... sorry, smoser15:50
mgarciaisaiai need to run a Debian/Ubuntu image in EC215:50
Shinhanall ubuntu masquerade guides I have since found seems to be much simpler, guess I'll just ignore that lsb warning15:51
ccheneyDaviey, fun15:51
mgarciaisaiabut with some kernel which doesn't have the wine/xen bug they mention at < http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/message.jspa?messageID=144197 >15:52
mgarciaisaiawhile i was focusing on trying a Debian image with different aki's, i tried an Ubuntu image as well, with the same result: the instance simply stops responding after some wine execution15:53
mgarciaisaiaeven if i run it as non-root user15:53
smosermgarciaisaia, whihc ubuntu image ?15:55
smoserif you can reproduce this, then thats wonderful. and you should open a bug with instructions on how to do it.15:55
smoserideally, you open a bug using 'ubuntu-bug' from inside an instance of the same image that you can recreate with.15:56
smosermgarciaisaia, list of ubuntu images is at http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/15:56
mgarciaisaiahhmmm... let me see if i found the exact ami15:56
smoser10.04 would be most interesting15:56
smoserie, get the amis from http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/release/15:57
cybrocopCan someone please help me debug these issues:15:58
cybrocophttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/59818215:58
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 598182 in eucalyptus "eucalyptus-cc and uec-component-listener services are not started" [Undecided,New]15:58
cybrocophttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/59818615:59
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 598186 in eucalyptus "Unable to register nodes in eucalyptus" [Undecided,New]15:59
cybrocopI need to rebuild my UEC environment and I have been delaying in order to get these bugs confirmed.15:59
cybrocopThe startup bug should be very easy to confirm/troubleshoot for someone with knowledge about debugging upstart.16:00
mgarciaisaiasmoser: ok, i can't find what was the exact ubuntu instance...16:02
mgarciaisaiai'll retry with any of the instances in the web you gave me16:03
mgarciaisaiaand then i tell you16:03
mgarciaisaiathanks16:03
uvirtbotNew bug: #598537 in cyrus-sasl2 (main) "Saslauthd segfaults (seemingly randomly)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59853716:05
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cybrocopmdz, I believe you authored eucalyptus-cc16:10
cybrocopthe upstart configuration16:10
cybrocopHow can I troubleshoot why eucalyptus-cc won't start when I reboot my machine.16:10
mdzcybrocop: I did some work on it briefly, but kirkland and Daviey are the people to talk to about it now16:11
cybrocopOK16:11
Davieycybrocop: When you restart euca, what do you get in /var/lib/eucalyptus/ ?16:12
cybrocopDaviey: /var/lib/eucalyptus contains a bunch of directories and a nodes.list file16:13
Davieycybrocop: sorry, i mean't /var/log/eucalyptus/*16:13
cybrocopDaviey: Is it ok to rm /var/log/eucalyptus/* and do a restart... I know when I do that on the NC, the nc.log file is never re-created.16:14
Davieycybrocop: Yep.. they are just log files.16:14
Davieycybrocop: If you do that, and pastebin the whole lot - it'll be easier to work out the issue16:14
cybrocopDaviey: When i Do a "stop eucalyptus" is it also supposed to stop all other euca* services?16:14
panfistis there any special configuration needed for a server that is a dns server named with a name foo.bar that's also a samba server with a netbios name baz?16:15
Davieycybrocop: it *should* do... i did find inconsistent behaviour when doing it via /etc/init.d/eucalyptus stop and that.. which is REALLY weird16:16
Davieyas it shouldn't be differnet.16:16
cybrocopDaviey: OK, so you want me to pastebin contents of all log files or just contents of /var/log/eucalyptus16:17
Davieycybrocop: if you can do all log files, that would be better... Or upload them to webspace or something.16:17
cybrocopIs there a pastebin service that allows easy interaction from a command line via curl? So that I can upload a huge log file?16:18
cybrocopls -al16:18
cybrocopDaviey: I'm packaging the logs now. But, I shoudl say that when I do a restart every service starts up properly. (So Bug 598182 can't be troubleshot this way, I think.)  The problem in that bug arises when I reboot my server. When it comes up, eucalyptus-cc and uec-component-listener are not started.16:22
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 598182 in eucalyptus "eucalyptus-cc and uec-component-listener services are not started" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59818216:22
Davieycybrocop: eeek, sounds like some sort of race condition.16:23
cybrocopDaviey: yep. But it may give you insight on Bug 59818616:24
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 598186 in eucalyptus "Unable to register nodes in eucalyptus" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59818616:24
Davieycybrocop: I'd be suprised if it is, as you'd be the first to notice this.. What sort of hardware are you running it on?16:24
cybrocopDaviey: Intel Desktop Board DG945 motherboard. Quad-Core Intel CPU. 4GB ram. I can get the exact CPU model if you wish.16:25
cybrocopDaviey: Sorry, that was for my NC machines. I believe the HW for the CC machine is a Gigabyte Mobo, Dual-Core CPU, and 2GB ram. But I don't know the specific. Can I easily query it from command-line?16:27
Davieycybrocop: Hmm.. i just wanted to check if it was anything seriosuly high class.. like super fast hard disks.16:28
cybrocopDaviey: No, nothing like that.16:28
Davieycybrocop: And have you done *anything* with the configs post installation?16:28
cybrocopDaviey: Now while I was conscious. :)16:29
Davieycybrocop: Can i ask you to raise a fresh bug.  Ideally stop euca, remove all the logs - restart and post the logs to the bug (including syslog)16:30
Davieyfeel free to redact anything you consider personal..16:30
Davieycybrocop: That would be great if you could.. then we can investigate a little furthert16:31
cybrocopDaviey: Will try.16:31
cybrocopCan I easily trigger my syslog/kern.log/etc... to roll-over?16:32
cybrocopDaviey: so that I only upload the new stuff to the bug?16:32
cybrocopDaviey: NVM, I figured it out: /usr/sbin/logrotate --force /etc/logrotate.conf16:35
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Davieycybrocop: ahh! :)16:38
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cybrocopis there any way to get a list of all running services?16:39
cybrocopor the status of them all?16:39
ccheneyDaviey, only one person saw the bug during a1?16:39
ccheneyDaviey, its 100% reproducible for me, maybe i'm just unlucky16:39
Davieyccheney: Hmm.. i mean, during the A1 testing phase.. only one person mentioned it16:39
ccheneyDaviey, ah ok, maybe only one person tested uec? :)16:40
Davieyafterwards is differnet, as they'd be dist-upgrading anyway16:40
ccheneyDaviey, it happens every time for me on any kernel newer than 2.6.3216:40
ccheneyexcept with the patched one that tgardner fixed up16:40
Davieyccheney: agreed.. but the concern was how to get testings on something that works.16:40
ccheneyok16:40
ccheneywhat i'm wondering is why this isn't easily reproducible for everyone, must be some sort of race16:41
ccheneyDaviey, iirc you said it doesn't happen for you on some of the newer than 2.6.32 kernels?16:42
ccheneyi was registering lucid-server-uec-amd64.tar.gz in my test in case it matters16:43
Davieyccheney: No.. The last good kernel i tries was Lucid.. I said i hadn't tried 2.6.34, but someone had reported it didn't work.  I only knew 2.6.35 didn't work.16:43
Davieytried*16:43
ccheneyoh ok16:43
ccheneyso then its probably a case of not too many people trying out our images then16:43
cybrocopDaviey: I'll upload log files shortly (mostly syslog). The /var/log/eucalyptus directory only contains jetty-request-2010_06_25.log and no other log file, presumably because eucalyptus-cc and uec-component-listener are not running.16:43
* Daviey sobs with this mess he has infront of him :(16:43
Davieycybrocop: interesting!16:44
Davieycybrocop: The team will get notified of your bug.. and we'll try and work out what is causing the issue, and may require further information16:44
Davieycybrocop: Is it reasonable to ask you to try and reinstall from scratch and see if it is reproduced?16:44
cybrocopDaviey: Yep. The eucalyptus service is running which should be the only pre-requisite.16:44
cybrocopDaviey: I want to reinstall from scratch but I doubt I will easily encounter this bug. I have reinstalled UEC about 20 times in the past month (due to various issue) :)  Actually I want to get to a quick resolution and the only reason I'm refraining from reinstalling is to catch this bug.16:45
Davieycybrocop: I would appreciate it if you could raise that bug, but then feel free to reinstall.16:46
Davieycybrocop: I don't want to block you.. so feel free to burn the system away, and at least we'll be aware of an issue, even if we don't have enough data to fix it!16:47
Davieycybrocop: Then if someone else raises it, we will be familar with an issue.16:47
cybrocopDaviey: I've raised the bug already. Which log files in /var/log do you need? /var/log/syslog is enough?16:47
Davieycybrocop: should be16:48
cybrocopDavie: OK, I'll try to do same for the other bug.16:49
cybrocopDaviey: I uploaded my syslog for Bug 598186.16:53
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 598186 in eucalyptus "Unable to register nodes in eucalyptus" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59818616:53
cybrocopI doubt it contains anything useful though.16:53
* ccheney found a way to follow up on old list mail, just import the mbox from the archive :)17:01
ccheneygrr evolution windows aren't modal to their own app17:02
* ccheney may be using the wrong word apparently17:03
Davieyccheney: I was going to suggest mbox, but i thought it overkill :)17:04
ccheneyyea, it seems very easy to do :)17:04
Davieycybrocop: awesome, thanks17:04
Davieyccheney: wget then mbox to maildir on your mail server :)17:05
ccheneywell my mail server is the canonical one still atm, so i got mbox and imported into imap via evolution17:06
* ccheney is going to test their test case on my box before sending the email17:23
ccheneyhmm installed lots of stuff to be able to do that, hopefully it won't affect the test17:25
RFlemingGreetings.  I've got a problem and I hope I can get some help17:28
RFlemingI've got an ubuntu server running with md and LVG17:29
RFlemingat boot, it says that md1 raid array not clean17:29
RFlemingthen I get a kernel panic saying that /sbin/init can't be found.17:29
RFlemingbooting into an ubuntu server CD in recover broken system mode, the arrays look fine17:29
RFlemingthe VG's look fine, and I can mount them without issue17:29
RFlemingI even checked the filesystems in the VG and they come back fine as well.17:30
RFleminganyone with any suggestions?17:31
dotnettedhey all - I'm trying to get openldap/samba working to authenticate users on ubuntu 10.04 - I'm using "smbldap-useradd/smbldap-passwd" to add a user w/ a password and used "auth-client-config" to configure PAM to use an ldap profile - pamtest is failing to authenticate - what's the best way to track down the problem? thanks17:34
ccheneyDaviey, appears their test case works regardless17:37
ccheneyDaviey, i'm doing a last test with the known broken version and then will send out the email along with the script attached that I used to replicate it17:38
ccheneyyea works even on known broken kernel17:40
Davieyccheney: this week gets better and better! :)17:43
RFleminganyone with any ideas?17:44
ccheneyDaviey, message sent, should be there soon17:47
ccheneybrb sending a fax17:47
Davieyhggdh: Awesome work on bug 566792 test package.. wanted to check 2 things:17:56
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 566792 in eucalyptus "metadata service returns empty data with 200 OK" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56679217:56
Daviey1) did you find out why the system burned yesterday?17:56
Daviey2) can you update the bug with the results of the test package17:56
Daviey-- if that works out well, we'll SRU.17:57
RFlemingHi everyone.17:57
RFlemingwhen run-init /sbin/init returns a no such file or directory error and the kerne panics and doesn't sync ... how do I go about resolving that?17:58
xperiahello to all. i have two ubuntu web servers behind a router with one static ip. everytime i want to call a domain that is hosted on the second router i get a error message or the first server respond. people have told me this happen becouse both servers are listening on the same port 80 and i need somehow to tweak both server configs so both can work with no problem. does anybody know how ?17:58
xperiaRFleming: hmm do you have this file in sbin ?17:59
RFlemingyeah, I do17:59
RFlemingI'm running fake raid with LVG on top18:00
xperiawell then it must has to do with the exec preferences18:00
RFlemingthe system freaks on boot, but on recovery the raid and the LVG are fine18:00
xperiaprobably this file need to be given execute rights18:00
xperiatry this18:00
RFlemingone thing though, I can't seem to launch a shell from the lvg in recovery mode18:00
xperiacd sbin18:00
xperiaand do run-init init18:00
xperiadoes thia works18:00
xperiaproblem is the error message "no such file or directory" first18:01
xperiathis message normally appera if you want to execute or handle a file/programm that can not be found probably becouse a path is wrong18:02
ccheneyDaviey, does the email seem sufficient?18:02
xperiaor the system dont know where to find this files18:02
RFlemingthe file has execute rights18:03
RFlemingit appears that the lvg isn't mounting the root file system18:03
RFlemingbecause everything is as it should be.18:04
RFlemingdo UUID's change? :)18:04
xperiaand what happen when you go inside this dir where the file is with "cd /sbin" and run the command "run-init init" ? do you get the same error18:04
ccheneyDaviey, do you know what steps i need to do to do the manual bundling that is mentioned in the comment 10?18:05
xperianormally this should now not happen18:05
RFlemingthere is no run-init on the recover a broken system18:05
ccheneyDaviey, it looks like the documentation for 9.10 might have the manual way listed18:05
RFlemingerr option18:06
RFlemingit appears that /dev/md1 is resyncing18:09
RFlemingalthough I fail to see how that would impact booting18:09
RFlemingthis server ran fine for 427 days and now pfft...18:09
RFlemingsomeone unplugs the wrong box18:09
xperiahmmmm really bad to hear18:10
ccheneyon the manual method i see which part is causing the problem18:10
ccheneyEMI=$(euca-register $BUCKET_IMAGE/$UEC_IMG.img.manifest.xml | grep "^IMAGE" | awk '{print $2}') && echo $EMI18:10
ccheneywhich makes sense18:11
xperiaanybody here how can answer me the question related for runnig two servers behind one router but only one deliver the content ?18:11
Davieyccheney: Sorry buddy.. i've got to get away from this for the day - before my head explodes.18:11
ccheneyok np18:11
ccheney"Cat the parts together in the right order to obtain the encrypted image." anyone know what right order means?18:12
xperiahmmm it looks i need somehow to forward the requests from the one server to the second one as the router just send the whole want traffic at one server18:12
ccheneyah nm i see there are a bunch of tmp files in the /tmp dir18:12
RFlemingxperia, you need a reverse proxy18:13
xperiayeah that is the problem. router send all wan requests to the first server and becouse of that the second server ont answer18:13
RFlemingyou set up a reverse proxy and all requests get directed to it18:14
RFlemingthen your reverse proxy config tells the proxy where to get content from18:14
xperiahow can i solve this traffic forwarding when host request are not related to the first server and need to be forwaded18:14
xperiahmmm reverse proxy never heared that yet18:15
RFleming!reverseproxy18:16
xperiaRFleming: thank you a lot18:17
xperiahave found something on the web need to study it more18:18
RFlemingyou're welcome18:18
* ccheney going to lunch, bbl18:19
Krazyderekdoes anyone know how to setup backuppc for a backup on the same pc, not over the network?18:36
socommGot a question. That asterisk next to an executable's name what does it mean. Whenever I do 'ls -l' I see asterisk next to the executable files.18:37
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CppIsWeirdi just cant see to get anything on ubuntu enterprise to work with eucalyptus19:00
CppIsWeirdcan anyone tell me why http://127.0.0.1:8773 comes back at me with a 500 internal server error?19:01
CppIsWeirdor why Elasticfox will not let me add a region no matter what19:01
hggdhDaviey: still there?19:13
* ccheney is back and working tgardner on another kernel image19:16
hggdhDaviey: I am updating the bug, but it failed on the longer test19:18
hggdhDaviey: well, actually, it is still failing, the stes is still running19:18
CppIsWeirdcan anyone tell me why http://127.0.0.1:8773 comes back at me with a 500 internal server error?19:36
Davieyhggdh: :(19:37
Davieyhggdh: thanks for letting us know19:37
hggdhDaviey: yes, rather drepressing results, are they not?19:38
Davieyhggdh: seems it, glad i didn't upload it to the archive now :)19:38
hggdhDaviey: heh, so am I19:39
Davieyhggdh: having a look at your branch you linked to19:39
Davieyhggdh: Did you find out what burned the system yesterday?19:39
hggdhDaviey: I did not, and all traces are now gone due to reinstall. But I suspect witches19:40
Davieyhggdh: /me decides hallyn is a witch and burns him.19:42
hggdhDaviey: /me brings alcohol19:42
Daviey\o/.. a good ol' time awaits.19:43
hggdhnow, just a bit of wisky, and we are all set19:43
socommCppIsWeird: sounds like a config issue with your HTTPD server19:45
CppIsWeirdsocomm, nah, it just sounds like ubuntu enterprise blows.19:52
socommCppIsWeird: personally, i'd never pay for an OS20:00
socommwait doesn't enterprise come with paid support or something?20:01
CppIsWeirdits not paid for its the whole cloud computing with the nonfunctional eucalyptus20:01
socommi think I tried eucalyptus once, didn't like it20:03
socommcould be diff software though20:03
CppIsWeirdso far as i can tell its a pos. been screwing with it for about 8-10 hours straight.20:04
CppIsWeirdfollowing every tutorial in the book20:04
socommheh20:04
CppIsWeirdfor mysterious reasons, it doesnt work20:04
socommbeen doing long enough where I can tell you its probably something retardedly simply that's not making it work20:05
socomms/simply/simple/g20:05
CppIsWeirdi completely believe you.20:05
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nubeI've been playing with samba and ssh for a file server.  Haven't used cron but as far as I can tell it shouldn't be that difficult to create bash scripts to make local and remote backups.  Is their any reason not to implement in that manner.  I know their exist expensive services that basically do just that e.g., mozy, but why waste the $?21:18
zenmowerrsync21:25
nubety readin man page now21:26
nubeahh i c21:28
SpamapSsmoser: ping?21:35
smoserhere21:38
smoserSpamapS,21:38
SpamapSsmoser: is this done? [clint-fewbar] (1)run instance and wait into cloud-utils: INPROGRESS21:40
nascentmindHi. In pam why do they put pam_faildelay at the top rather than at the bottom of the auth stack? Doesn't pam check the stack sequentially?21:40
smoserSpamapS,  i guess so, yeah.21:41
SpamapSsmoser: (3)util for kill all instances: TODO21:45
RFlemingGreetings!21:48
RFlemingMy ubuntu server decided it wasn't going to boot today21:48
RFlemingimmediately after checking for a resume image (and not finding one), the run-init complains that /sbin/init can't be found, the kernel panics without syncing saying it's attempting to kill init21:49
RFlemingI've checked the MD raid, I've checked the LVM VG and all the partitions in the VG through the server CD recover a broken system boot option, but the system won't start.21:50
RFlemingIs it my initramfs that's pooched?21:50
RFlemingis that where /sbin/init that it can't find is located?21:50
SpamapSRFleming: can you try booting with init=/bin/bash ?21:50
RFlemingsure.  Give me a moment21:51
SpamapS64 bytes from 65.98.207.160: icmp_seq=9 ttl=52 time=2252.162 ms21:51
SpamapSI love it when a router queues packets for 2.2 seconds :)21:51
RFlemingSpamapS, run-init: /bin/bash: No such file or directory21:53
RFlemingagain, like /sbin/init ... this is immediately after kinit realises there's no resume image and proceeds to do a normal boot21:55
SpamapSRFleming: yeah it does seem lke your initramfs is kinda broken. Can you boot from a liveCD?21:57
RFlemingI've been booting off the server install cd in 'Recover a broken system' mode21:57
RFlemingI can't remember wich version of Ubuntu this is21:57
RFlemingI think it's 8.04 LTS21:57
RFlemingCan I use any desktop livecd?21:58
guntbertRFleming: yes, of course21:58
RFlemingalright, burning a 9.10 desktop amd64 cd to boot from21:59
RFlemingdoes the LiveCD support fakeraid?22:00
RFlemingI have LVM on top of fakeraid22:00
guntbert!fakeraid | RFleming22:00
ubottuRFleming: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto22:00
RFlemingguntbert, hehe, that helps how?  Are the fakeraid modules included on the livecd for 9.10? :)22:01
RFlemingfakeraid is already installed and configured :)22:01
guntbertRFleming: sorry, I don't know how to handle fakeraid, but there you *should* find out if the modules are there22:02
SpamapS"Warning22:03
SpamapSFakeRAID is not supported by Ubuntu. Trying to install Ubuntu on such a partition could easily result in the loss of all your data."22:03
SpamapSDOH22:03
RFlemingI'm not so worried.  When it works it works22:03
RFlemingfakeraid is fine, checked it22:03
RFlemingLVM is fine too, checked that as well22:03
RFlemingso are all the partitions22:03
RFleminghow do I go about rebuilding the initramfs image?22:04
RFleming(in recovery mode) :)22:04
SpamapSmkinitrd maybe22:04
guntbertRFleming: I guess for that you need a chroot environment, that reminds me: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover%20Grub%202%20via%20LiveCD is an instruction for grub2 but it details how to set up a chroot22:07
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