[00:28] hello, I have a rather old computer that uses an IDE hdd and cannot boot to usb (no cd/dvd rom either). so I installed ubuntu server, and when I put it back in I got a grub prompt. a minute or two in #grub and it boots. now I get "Filesystem has errors: /" after "fsck / terminated w/status 4", does anyone know what the problem might be? === unreal_ is now known as unreal [01:37] joshuah: sounds like hard drive failure, how old is it? [01:37] pretty old... pentium 3, just got it from a teacher [01:38] joshuah: capacity? [01:38] 20gb [01:38] oh boy [01:39] with drives that old it's hit or miss [01:39] they built them better then, so the ones that still work tend to work for a while [01:39] but it's so old, that failure is quite likely [01:39] ahh, well fedora+LXDE was doing ok, though a bit laggy w/a couple of crashes while updating [01:40] and I take the hdd out to use another computer to install OSs on, so I had to do that for this one [01:40] the fedora installed asked me what disk(s) I want to install on [01:41] so I don't know if I did it right this time, because the bootloader has remnants of my other computer on it [01:41] well, could be controller failure too [01:41] I suggest getting something like spinrite and testing the disk [01:41] not free software IIRC, though I'm sure there's an alternative [01:42] oh, DFT [01:42] that's free and it'll work with any IDE disk [01:42] on the livecd? [01:43] no [01:43] http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Hard-Disk-Utils/IBM-Hitachi-Drive-Fitness-Test.shtml [01:44] thanks [01:44] kirkland, new cloud-utils uploaded. [02:00] hey guys, I am having a strange problem with one of my sites. I have all my websites in one of my home directories, but one of the sites has been "rooted" and it's showing access denied on a browser [02:01] Daviey, " ccheney, Bisecting: 2 revisions left to test after this" :-) === jjohansen is now known as jjohansen-afk [02:02] so it's WP and I run 'chmod 777 -R /mc' and get a 'Operation not permitted' for every file in the mc/ dir [02:04] I have other sites in the same /home dir that work fine, it's just this one dir I'm having problems with [02:53] Daviey, found the patch causing the problem, not sure what to do about it yet [02:53] kirkland, ^ [03:42] hey all [03:42] how do I tell what users exist on a system? [03:46] cat /etc/passwd [03:47] ty [05:17] ccheney: Daviey: nice work... let's make sure the kernel team advises us on next steps [05:24] kirkland, yea, will be talking to tgardner in the morning [05:24] kirkland, i would know more tonight but was stuck at the grocery store for nearly 2 hours :-\ === amstan_ is now known as amstan === oubiwann is now known as oubiann [06:16] what do i google for if i want to figure out how to use ubuntus enterprise cloud stuff in the server version? [06:19] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC [06:20] thank you. :-) [06:23] You're welcome :) [06:38] is there any way to set up a printer on linux such that the windows machine does not need the driver for the specific printer? im trying to avoid installing the crapware that comes with HP driver packages. [06:40] CppIsWeird: yes, Samba can host the print drivers .. http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/18850.html [06:40] i have it shared in samba. upon "connecting" to the printer it prompted me for windows drivers. [06:40] (i dont know if that link addresses this) [06:42] it appears however that my samba is already set up like that. (refering to what i read in the link) [06:45] minus some packages that i cannot find the the repositorie [06:45] s [06:50] CppIsWeird: So you have all the needed Windows driver files for that printer present on your printer$ share, and the client PC is not using them? Recheck they are all there and all visible and readable from the client PC. If they are there, the client really should be able to use them. [06:52] hmm, there seems to be no printer drives in the folder that the samba config file references. [06:56] Did you put the Windows driver files there, or not? :) [06:57] Samba cannot guess which printer you want to serve drivers for... you have to copy the files there yourself. [06:57] oh [06:57] well if i had the windows drivers in their raw form in the first place i wouldnt be trying to do all of this :P [06:57] Didn't the article pointed to earlier talk about copying the files?? I think it did. [06:58] HP does not realease "drivers" the release this huge install [06:58] i skimmed over it too quickly. sorry. [06:58] CppIsWeird: So install it once, maybe in a Windows virtual machine you can trash later, and grab the files you need from that... [06:59] Just like a Windows admin would... :) [07:03] i'll give it a shot. thanks for the help. [07:17] Urgh. My google-fu is weak. What's the sources.list entry for the lucid "partners" repo? [07:18] jmarsden, so heres a stupid question. once I install the drivers, where do i go to get them in windows? [07:19] Looks like it's deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu lucid{,-backports,-proposed,-updates,-security} partner [07:23] CppIsWeird: you find the printer on the network, and double-click the printer. :) === oubiann is now known as oubiwann [08:02] ttx: good morning [08:03] SpamapS: yo [08:03] SpamapS: how is Velocity ? Did you do your BoF already ? [08:18] MTecknology: this time i install guest 8.04 on host 8.04. but i can't find a way to ssh the client [08:18] the guest [08:18] ttx: yes we did the BoF on Tuesday night [08:19] ttx: it was mostly Ubuntu dev type people Monty Taylor was there for instance.. but we had two users show up, including Jason from Wikia and a gentleman deploying Lucid onto 200+ library servers === oubiwann is now known as oubiann === oubiann is now known as oubiwann-away === oubiwann-away is now known as oubiwann [09:04] if i want to install lite window manager like openbox on ubuntu-server. except apt-get install openbox ... what package should be added? if i need simple gui after start?! [09:05] fishcooker: we don't recommend installing a GUI on servers. [09:05] fishcooker: however, if you want to run a local GUI on the server, you will need both the server (xorg) and client (openbox/xterm/gnome/whatever) components of the windowing system. [09:06] if i insist what package i needed [09:06] ohhh tx twb [09:06] for the quick response [09:07] i mean thanx.you twb for the quick response [09:09] fishcooker, for a lightweight desktop you can just apt-get the xubuntu-desktop package. [09:09] it will install the lightweight xfce package [09:10] or lubuntu-desktop [09:10] which i think is more lightweight than xubuntu-desktop [09:10] Indeed, one of the -desktop metapackages will give you a full desktop environment. [09:11] New bug: #598385 in munin (main) "munin plugin exim_mailqueue has incorrect graph configuration" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/598385 [09:21] Morning [09:40] <_ruben> bah, mailx package went from transitional to virtual package [09:40] <_ruben> breaking my universal preseed file :/ [09:42] CppIsWeird: thanks 4 reply ... u should try openbox... like you i thought xubuntu the fastest but... u can give openbox try [09:42] k [09:42] ill try lubuntu [09:43] asap :D [09:43] xfce has been getting fat lately [09:43] yip2 the mouse is getting fatter and fatter LoL [09:43] morning [09:48] Daviey: how successful have you been with the GWT patch ? [09:57] I don't know why you want X anyway [10:00] ttx: I'm trying it now [10:01] ttx: Do we have an update from ccheney? [10:02] Daviey: they reduced the bisection to a given commit [10:02] some non-obvious non-blocking R/W fix [10:03] There have been "further improvements" recently in the same area by the same author, so I suspect there are two options: back up that commit in recent kernels, or apply the latest crack [10:04] but that's far away from my turf, so I'll let the kernel guys look into it [10:05] ttx: cool, do they think we'll have a resolution today? [10:06] Daviey: the comments from ccheny or rtg didn't really get into that detail, unfortunately [10:06] ttx: ok, /me's hoping [10:54] Daviey: what's the status of bug 588410 ? [10:54] Launchpad bug 588410 in eucalyptus "dynamic block storage should use virtio" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588410 [10:54] ttx: Fix0rd, in bzr [10:55] pending upload ? [10:55] ttx: yah.. Am i right in saying that if this 1.7 works out well, we push 1.7 to maverick? [10:55] yes [10:55] ttx: Ok, will be fixed in this upload :) [10:55] Daviey: could you mark those Fixcommitted with a comment ? [10:55] ttx: The attached patch wasn't quite valid. [10:55] + bug 595421 [10:55] Launchpad bug 595421 in eucalyptus "Eucalyptus doesn't start with latest stable version of "Groovy"" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595421 [10:56] Daviey: right, it was a patch for /their/ build system [10:56] ttx: No, i mean bug 588410 [10:56] Launchpad bug 588410 in eucalyptus "dynamic block storage should use virtio" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588410 [10:57] zul: status of bug 574554 ? [10:57] Launchpad bug 574554 in tgt "tgtd needs init script or upstart job" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/574554 [11:14] I have problems with my ubuntu-server. it will not boot up correctly. I did just remove anything not default in fstab and on boot it "stops" on: fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2 /dev/sda1: clean, 60667/366440 files, 319779/1464576 blocks ,, and nothing more happens appearently... Why does it stop here?? (I can ssh into server though, and server is really up and running..) strange [11:16] is it just doing a diskcheck?? lol .. happens every time i reboot though.. and not possible to enter from ttys.. [11:20] i was installing eucalyptus-cc and i accidently hit enter in the middle of typing the IP subnet. how do i run through that configuration prompt again? [11:33] <_ruben> CppIsWeird: usualy dpkg-reconfigure packagename would do the trick [11:38] _ruben, thats what i thought, but it doesnt prompt me for any information [11:41] hi there guys [11:45] hi too, howdy [11:49] <_ruben> CppIsWeird: could try adding -plow [11:50] <_ruben> or you'd need to dpkg-reconfigure one of it's dependencies (like a -common package or so) [11:52] i got a problem on a server's fstab [11:52] same subnet of another server, same fstab, same nfs partition to mount. One mounts it on reboot...the other won't. [11:54] ps: anyway, the one who doesn't work on startup, works running "mount -a" === Black_Prince is now known as BlackPrince === BlackPrince is now known as Black_Prince [12:12] Short of removing the relvant package, what is the best way to blacklist an upstart service? [12:16] _ruben, i figured it out, apt-get --purge remove packagename [12:25] hallyn: re --without-esx> I don't know the history to that other than to say that we inherit that from Debian starting with 0.7.5-3 [12:26] (so lucid and maverick at present) [12:47] I have problems with my ubuntu-server. it will not boot up correctly. I did just remove anything not default in fstab and on boot it "stops" on: fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2 /dev/sda1: clean, 60667/366440 files, 319779/1464576 blocks ,, and nothing more happens appearently... Why does it stop here?? (I can ssh into server though, and server is really up and running..) [12:50] (this error message is shown in tty7.. I dont even have gdm installed.. strange?) [12:51] <_ruben> its the new graphical splash stuff, probably isnt liking your gfx card or so [12:52] Apparently you're not allowed to remove it because it's a core part of the system [12:52] ...in the same way IE is a "core" part of Windows, I suspect :-/ [12:52] gnoob: do you have any backup of your fstab [12:53] ? [12:53] AFAICT it's main job is to make lucid completely fail to boot on my old systems with i8xx and i9xx GPUs. [13:00] fishcooker :) Thanks I will try to put "quite splash nomodeset" in the grubconfigfile. I really believe there is a chance that this will fix it :) If that doesnt work ill put the fstab file on som pastbin site :) [13:01] <_ruben> or just remove the 'quiet splash' part and have a nice verbose boot experience [13:03] _ruben: you can't prevent lucid *install media* from loading a framebuffer. [13:04] Well, except by running them on a machine that physically has no GPU, but only serial [13:04] nice info _ruben and twb :) thanks a lot [13:07] I don't remember whether removing "splash" from boot options on an installed system did what I wanted; I'm not sure I even *have* a lucid host with nonvolatile storage. [13:18] ttx: i need foundations to look at it still [13:19] it's not obvious you pinged them from the bug status [13:19] could you add a quick comment ? [13:19] sure [13:19] I'll raise it at Release meeting today [13:23] done [13:26] New bug: #598476 in mysql-5.1 (main) "MySQL server fails to load on boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/598476 [13:31] GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nomodeset" now it stops saying: fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2 /dev/sda1: clean, 50667/366480 files, 56543N/6546754N blocks Ill send fstab to pastebin in a sec [13:33] trying to uncomment this line too: #GRUB_TERMINAL=console (strange that this is not uncommented by default on a server edition with no x.. ?? [13:34] hmm maybe this applies only to the grub screen... [13:34] hi guys [13:34] it's me again - more interest in giving server related sessions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Prep ? :) [13:35] morning [13:42] dholbach: im volunteering ttx and SpamapS :) [13:42] zul! [13:42] zul: you have an action down somewhere about giving a session [13:42] http://pastebin.com/cZcUbD7U This is my fstab file [13:42] hello dholbach you mean for monday 12th 16-17utc server rather than dev ? [13:42] zul: ttx is already giving a session [13:43] zul: :P [13:43] lau: I was talking about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Prep [13:43] dholbach: i did the last ubuntu dev week session for server [13:50] Daviey, ttx, rtg has a new server package for me to try, testing it out now [13:54] Daviey, if this test works i think he will be uploading the new package [13:54] serverpronto.com is down.... [13:55] actually i think it already is uploaded, but just yesterday [13:55] anyone heard anything about serverpronto.com ?? [13:56] * ttx wonders how the downtime of serverpronto.com is related to Ubuntu Server [13:58] cos my ubuntu server is on serverpronto! [13:58] although it may be a tad off-topic, just thought someone else might share my pain here [13:59] actually i am not fully awake yet, it is not the version in the archive its a modified version of what was uploaded yesterday [14:01] New bug: #598485 in bacula (main) "package bacula-director-mysql 5.0.1-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/598485 [14:03] zul, ttx you have a suggestion on where to put cloud-init user data wiki page ? should it be on help. or wiki. ? [14:03] like how to use it page? [14:04] smoser: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/... ? [14:04] ttx: i concur [14:05] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/UserData-CloudInit [14:05] sound good ? [14:06] hmmm [14:06] smoser: since this is relevant for EC2 i'm not sure it should be under "UEC" [14:06] Why not https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CloudInit ? [14:07] i believe this is hitting at a discussion on ccloud ml [14:08] i guess i can link to it from under UEC. but i think to improve its "discoverability" it should be findable there. [14:09] smoser: keep CloudInit... and move it once the name changes... not the other way around [14:09] especially if the common name ends up not being UEC [14:10] obviously it is movable, but ok. [14:15] ccheney: Sorry, can you clarify? [14:15] unewbie: I'm guessing you don't know what the ip is either [14:16] Daviey, i'm testing a kernel that is based off yesterdays 2.6.35-6 with the problematic patch removed (i think) [14:17] In pam why is pam_faildelay.so is written at the top of pam.d/login file. When authenticating wouldn't that module be executed first for auth? [14:18] ccheney: Oh nice.. Do you happen to have a url to the patch that was dropped? [14:18] ccheney: Leave it for 2 mins, we'll talk :) [14:18] Daviey, http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=cc56f7de7f00d188c7c4da1e9861581853b9e92f [14:19] brb [14:27] Any opinions on feasibility of loading ubuntu server on an old PII 330 with 256Mb RAM as a lower power personal shell account server? [14:29] i'd rather run arch/gentoo zaaj, but i could work if you got no compilation / hard testing purposes [14:29] semi-last-call: UDW sessions up for grabs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Prep [14:33] d-DIO-t: Yeah, just looking for a place I can log in and look at how things work from outside work's network mostly, so just running console client programs (like an IRC client :-) [14:33] Hello everyone... [14:35] after fixing my problem with dnsmasq, DHCP and DNS are working and I have internet on my linux box, but not internet on the rest of my network? Can someone take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9509066#post9509066 ? Last post has interfaces and iptables where I think problem might be lying. Thanks [14:39] Shinhan: is forwarding turned on in the kernel? [14:39] Yea, friend told me to put 1 in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward [14:39] that? [14:40] Shinhan, yeah that, so that should be OK then. [14:40] That is, if it still says 1 when you "cat" /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward back out [14:41] I'll check it now [14:44] It's been a long time since I've set up a linux masquerading gateway, so I would probably have to start reading some docs on it again, like those in http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/firewall-examples.html [14:47] That URL's main example scrit comments stat that the default action for FORWARD is DROP, so there's more than the two POSTROUTING and one INPUT rule you've added required. [14:48] eh? its 0 now o.O [14:49] I changed it now to 1 and cat says its 1, I'll have to try it now. [14:49] But first, what other rule would I have to add? [14:50] and is it possible that ip forwarding gets somehow turned off on system restart? do I need to add something to rc_init? [14:52] actually, I think I'll just try do what that file says [14:53] one thing, since I have two internal interfaces, can I just duplicate the lines concerning EXTIF to call EXTIF1 and EXTIF2? [14:54] I thing EXTIF should be the External InterFace [14:55] s/thing/think/ [14:55] yeah, i meant INTIF [14:55] in that case, your guess seems reasonable to me without checking the details (like I said, I"d have to read thru that file too) [14:56] ok, disconecting now to try this out [14:58] ttx, http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/j-zerocopy/ [14:59] that mentions java using java.nio.channels.FileChannel transferTo using sendfile [15:21] Daviey, lp:~daviey/new-and-improved-uber-euca2ools [15:21] ? [15:22] * dholbach gives smoser a 'ü' :) [15:23] * smoser tries to turn the ':' key on its side and merge it into the 'u' [15:24] kirkland: for converting daemons from sysv to upstart, what is the process? Do we just do it, or do we go through some m-l to try and get the /etc/init/X.conf file reviewed? [15:24] kirkland: i ask you bc you did the libcgroup merge :) [15:24] * dholbach hands smoser scalpel, drill, rasp, swab, screw driver and tape [15:24] and i'm wondering what the process should be for converting libcgroup, which i think is the right way to address the bug about libvirt not starting until after libcgroup [15:24] hallyn: i usually just "do it" [15:24] zul: ^ [15:25] über [15:25] hallyn: zul is working on doing it for a bunch of server packages [15:25] zul: is libcgroup one of them? [15:25] hallyn, its probably not a bad idea to ask zul to take a look. and if its other than simple, Keybuk [15:25] If so, then i can just comment that in the bug :) [15:25] no...usually after the conversion is done you have to get it reviewed by the review team [15:26] zul - was that 'no' in response to whether you're doing libcgroup? [15:27] hallyn: sorry as in "no" im not doing libcgroup [15:28] that reminds me [15:28] zul: bleh :) [15:28] thanks anyway [15:28] hallyn: no problem :) [15:29] I'll just ask for a bug to be submitted against the libcgroup package, and then probably grab it [15:31] and then i have a documentation question. When there are known shortcomings (like libvirt not properly depending on libcgroup starting) and known workarounds published in the luanchpad bugs, do we consider that sufficient documentation? or is there another step we can take (like release notes or something)? [15:31] kirkland: ^ [15:31] hallyn: release notes, in some cases, are appropriate [15:32] hallyn: particularly for important packages [15:32] what sort of release notes though? per-package? [15:32] hallyn: we also have community driven documentation at help.ubuntu.com/community [15:32] hallyn: let me show you .... [15:32] * kirkland grabs a link [15:32] * hallyn goes to look [15:32] Daviey, is 1.7 ready yet? iirc you wanted me to kick it a bit [15:32] look at that, 'Release notes' [15:33] ccheney: it'll be hitting the archive in an hour or so! [15:33] Daviey, great :) [15:33] hallyn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes [15:33] hallyn: those were the Lucid GA release notes [15:33] and can we add to those at any time? [15:33] anyone have docs on how to setup a local uec install server (tftp i suppose)? [15:33] i can think of at least two things to add off the bat :) [15:33] i'm still using god awful slow usb sticks [15:34] ccheney: faster than cd though no? :) [15:35] ccheney: yeah, you need tftp.. [15:35] hi can somebody help me with ldap? [15:35] hallyn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/TechnicalOverview <--- is the release notes page for Maverick [15:35] when i do a getent passwd i am not getting ldap users at all. [15:35] hallyn, maybe, i'm not sure my usb stick seems slow [15:35] ccheney: you need to set your DHCP Bootp option aswell. [15:35] hallyn: under "Known Issues" [15:35] yay, net is working. thanks for the help :) [15:36] kirkland: ok so i can add things to maverick, but should i also add them to the lucid once if they apply? [15:36] Daviey, can you write me an email explaining it in case i have to redo it later, or point me to a doc? :) [15:36] * ccheney hugs Daviey :) [15:36] ccheney: When are you planning to do it? [15:36] when I do a ldapsearch with the options i get results of users. but when i do getent passwd with ldap.conf options set my logs in auth.log say invalid credentials. [15:37] ccheney / kirkland: We have it in our mission to document this stuff anyway! :) [15:37] also my bind cn contains a domainname\username. [15:38] Daviey, probably once the new 1.7 is in the archive, if you don't have time to document it by then as soon as you can get it to, not super high priority as i can still use usb [15:38] what are flush-1, flush-8, and flush-9, processes? [15:38] ccheney: okay.. i probably won't have time by EoP today.. but can certainly get your in the right direction on Monday? [15:38] i have gige switches at home so i think it should be much faster than my using my usb :) [15:38] Daviey, ok sounds great :) [15:38] ccheney: hands off installation ++ [15:38] I followed http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/firewall-examples.html Since it doesnt seem to have been written with ubuntu in mind, I made /etc/init.d/rc.firewall-iptables instead of /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall-iptables [15:39] But it also says I should put another file into /etc/rc.d/init.d/ which doesnt exists [15:39] where should I put it so it starts up on boot? [15:39] hallyn: not quite ... those pages are "owned" by the release team [15:39] hallyn: there is a procedure for adding items, let me grab that for you ... [15:40] Daviey: can you cc: me onthat email about tftp+dhcp to ccheney? :) [15:40] Daviey, i knew a bit about how tftp, bootp, etc work but its been so long since i last needed it i forgot most of it, used it for installing sparc hardware back in early part of last decade, heh [15:40] hah [15:41] hallyn: okay, in a bug that needs to be release-noted, you click "also affects project" and enter "ubuntu-release-notes" [15:41] TBH, tftp is annoying.. it always breaks when setting it up :( [15:41] kirkland: ok, so in the meantime, is there someplace 'official' where we should put workarounds resulting from launchpad bugs? [15:41] hallyn: and you propose the text [15:41] oh [15:41] hallyn: just in the bug itself [15:41] ok, thanks. [15:41] you bugtask it to release notes iirc [15:41] but yea there is more to it than just that [15:41] can i be pretty liberal with the 'also-affects release-notes' trick? :) or do they get cranky? [15:42] hallyn, probably should look at the wiki page wherever it is [15:42] hallyn, best not to annoy slangasek ;-) [15:43] ccheney / kirkland / smoser: Delay on 1.7.. failing to start. :( [15:46] hi there... anyone who can help with an amazon ec2 problem? [15:48] mgarciaisaia: smoser can :) [15:49] thanks Daviey [15:49] smoser: np [15:49] http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts says the script need to be different, but there is no way I would know how to change it. Is there a version of http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/firewall-examples.html for ubuntu? And how big a problem is missing LSB information [15:49] "don't ask to ask, just ask" (its in the topic, mgarciaisaia ) [15:50] wasn't very sure about this being the place... sorry, smoser [15:50] i need to run a Debian/Ubuntu image in EC2 [15:51] all ubuntu masquerade guides I have since found seems to be much simpler, guess I'll just ignore that lsb warning [15:51] Daviey, fun [15:52] but with some kernel which doesn't have the wine/xen bug they mention at < http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/message.jspa?messageID=144197 > [15:53] while i was focusing on trying a Debian image with different aki's, i tried an Ubuntu image as well, with the same result: the instance simply stops responding after some wine execution [15:53] even if i run it as non-root user [15:55] mgarciaisaia, whihc ubuntu image ? [15:55] if you can reproduce this, then thats wonderful. and you should open a bug with instructions on how to do it. [15:56] ideally, you open a bug using 'ubuntu-bug' from inside an instance of the same image that you can recreate with. [15:56] mgarciaisaia, list of ubuntu images is at http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/ [15:56] hhmmm... let me see if i found the exact ami [15:56] 10.04 would be most interesting [15:57] ie, get the amis from http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/release/ [15:58] Can someone please help me debug these issues: [15:58] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/598182 [15:58] Launchpad bug 598182 in eucalyptus "eucalyptus-cc and uec-component-listener services are not started" [Undecided,New] [15:59] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/598186 [15:59] Launchpad bug 598186 in eucalyptus "Unable to register nodes in eucalyptus" [Undecided,New] [15:59] I need to rebuild my UEC environment and I have been delaying in order to get these bugs confirmed. [16:00] The startup bug should be very easy to confirm/troubleshoot for someone with knowledge about debugging upstart. [16:02] smoser: ok, i can't find what was the exact ubuntu instance... [16:03] i'll retry with any of the instances in the web you gave me [16:03] and then i tell you [16:03] thanks [16:05] New bug: #598537 in cyrus-sasl2 (main) "Saslauthd segfaults (seemingly randomly)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/598537 === Wandrewvious is now known as WALoeIII [16:10] mdz, I believe you authored eucalyptus-cc [16:10] the upstart configuration [16:10] How can I troubleshoot why eucalyptus-cc won't start when I reboot my machine. [16:11] cybrocop: I did some work on it briefly, but kirkland and Daviey are the people to talk to about it now [16:11] OK [16:12] cybrocop: When you restart euca, what do you get in /var/lib/eucalyptus/ ? [16:13] Daviey: /var/lib/eucalyptus contains a bunch of directories and a nodes.list file [16:13] cybrocop: sorry, i mean't /var/log/eucalyptus/* [16:14] Daviey: Is it ok to rm /var/log/eucalyptus/* and do a restart... I know when I do that on the NC, the nc.log file is never re-created. [16:14] cybrocop: Yep.. they are just log files. [16:14] cybrocop: If you do that, and pastebin the whole lot - it'll be easier to work out the issue [16:14] Daviey: When i Do a "stop eucalyptus" is it also supposed to stop all other euca* services? [16:15] is there any special configuration needed for a server that is a dns server named with a name foo.bar that's also a samba server with a netbios name baz? [16:16] cybrocop: it *should* do... i did find inconsistent behaviour when doing it via /etc/init.d/eucalyptus stop and that.. which is REALLY weird [16:16] as it shouldn't be differnet. [16:17] Daviey: OK, so you want me to pastebin contents of all log files or just contents of /var/log/eucalyptus [16:17] cybrocop: if you can do all log files, that would be better... Or upload them to webspace or something. [16:18] Is there a pastebin service that allows easy interaction from a command line via curl? So that I can upload a huge log file? [16:18] ls -al [16:22] Daviey: I'm packaging the logs now. But, I shoudl say that when I do a restart every service starts up properly. (So Bug 598182 can't be troubleshot this way, I think.) The problem in that bug arises when I reboot my server. When it comes up, eucalyptus-cc and uec-component-listener are not started. [16:22] Launchpad bug 598182 in eucalyptus "eucalyptus-cc and uec-component-listener services are not started" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/598182 [16:23] cybrocop: eeek, sounds like some sort of race condition. [16:24] Daviey: yep. But it may give you insight on Bug 598186 [16:24] Launchpad bug 598186 in eucalyptus "Unable to register nodes in eucalyptus" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/598186 [16:24] cybrocop: I'd be suprised if it is, as you'd be the first to notice this.. What sort of hardware are you running it on? [16:25] Daviey: Intel Desktop Board DG945 motherboard. Quad-Core Intel CPU. 4GB ram. I can get the exact CPU model if you wish. [16:27] Daviey: Sorry, that was for my NC machines. I believe the HW for the CC machine is a Gigabyte Mobo, Dual-Core CPU, and 2GB ram. But I don't know the specific. Can I easily query it from command-line? [16:28] cybrocop: Hmm.. i just wanted to check if it was anything seriosuly high class.. like super fast hard disks. [16:28] Daviey: No, nothing like that. [16:28] cybrocop: And have you done *anything* with the configs post installation? [16:29] Daviey: Now while I was conscious. :) [16:30] cybrocop: Can i ask you to raise a fresh bug. Ideally stop euca, remove all the logs - restart and post the logs to the bug (including syslog) [16:30] feel free to redact anything you consider personal.. [16:31] cybrocop: That would be great if you could.. then we can investigate a little furthert [16:31] Daviey: Will try. [16:32] Can I easily trigger my syslog/kern.log/etc... to roll-over? [16:32] Daviey: so that I only upload the new stuff to the bug? [16:35] Daviey: NVM, I figured it out: /usr/sbin/logrotate --force /etc/logrotate.conf === resno is now known as bresnobot [16:38] cybrocop: ahh! :) === bresnobot is now known as resno [16:39] is there any way to get a list of all running services? [16:39] or the status of them all? [16:39] Daviey, only one person saw the bug during a1? [16:39] Daviey, its 100% reproducible for me, maybe i'm just unlucky [16:39] ccheney: Hmm.. i mean, during the A1 testing phase.. only one person mentioned it [16:40] Daviey, ah ok, maybe only one person tested uec? :) [16:40] afterwards is differnet, as they'd be dist-upgrading anyway [16:40] Daviey, it happens every time for me on any kernel newer than 2.6.32 [16:40] except with the patched one that tgardner fixed up [16:40] ccheney: agreed.. but the concern was how to get testings on something that works. [16:40] ok [16:41] what i'm wondering is why this isn't easily reproducible for everyone, must be some sort of race [16:42] Daviey, iirc you said it doesn't happen for you on some of the newer than 2.6.32 kernels? [16:43] i was registering lucid-server-uec-amd64.tar.gz in my test in case it matters [16:43] ccheney: No.. The last good kernel i tries was Lucid.. I said i hadn't tried 2.6.34, but someone had reported it didn't work. I only knew 2.6.35 didn't work. [16:43] tried* [16:43] oh ok [16:43] so then its probably a case of not too many people trying out our images then [16:43] Daviey: I'll upload log files shortly (mostly syslog). The /var/log/eucalyptus directory only contains jetty-request-2010_06_25.log and no other log file, presumably because eucalyptus-cc and uec-component-listener are not running. [16:43] * Daviey sobs with this mess he has infront of him :( [16:44] cybrocop: interesting! [16:44] cybrocop: The team will get notified of your bug.. and we'll try and work out what is causing the issue, and may require further information [16:44] cybrocop: Is it reasonable to ask you to try and reinstall from scratch and see if it is reproduced? [16:44] Daviey: Yep. The eucalyptus service is running which should be the only pre-requisite. [16:45] Daviey: I want to reinstall from scratch but I doubt I will easily encounter this bug. I have reinstalled UEC about 20 times in the past month (due to various issue) :) Actually I want to get to a quick resolution and the only reason I'm refraining from reinstalling is to catch this bug. [16:46] cybrocop: I would appreciate it if you could raise that bug, but then feel free to reinstall. [16:47] cybrocop: I don't want to block you.. so feel free to burn the system away, and at least we'll be aware of an issue, even if we don't have enough data to fix it! [16:47]