[02:51] good morning dfarning [02:52] dipankar, good morning. I tested your package and it worked great! [02:53] Do you have a plan for the mouse bug? [02:53] YAY! It feels so great dfarning, only one more thing: to push the package into ppa [02:53] yep [02:54] dfarning, the problem is, I am not experiencing any kind of problem with mouse [02:55] dipankar, hmmm [02:55] lfaraone, Are you around? [02:56] dipankar, I am searching my email for the recent thread. [02:57] dipankar, it was in a thread called Bug:mouse left click stop working 8 days ago. [02:58] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar/+bug/479179 [03:02] dfarning, I think it has something to do with hardware interfacing [03:03] lfaraone, are you around? [03:04] dfarning, is there any way I can reproduce it on my pc [03:04] dipankar, compiz is a package that adds all of the fancy effects to the scree/window see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compiz [03:04] ? [03:05] dipankar, try going to preferences -> apearences -> visual effects/ [03:06] You should be able to turn on the effects from that panel. [03:07] dfarning, I am using compiz :) After I screwed up something in themes.. I have to use it for proper working [03:09] dipankar, hmm maybe you screwed up something with prevents the bug from happening:) [03:10] Do you work from the office? Ankur we could reproduce the issue. [03:10] dfarning, :).. I am using compiz on my laptop on which USR is not installed. [03:11] We all work from home dfarning [03:11] Also Ankur is unavailable for a couple of days [03:11] ok, I was wondering how that worked [03:11] he expected to be back today [03:12] dfarning, The sugar session still crashes.. [03:12] we have to look into that too [03:13] dipankar, what is the session crash issue? I'll see if I can reproduce it. [03:14] dfarning, I will start from beginning: [03:14] I installed USR from the ISO thats is available at people.sl.org/dfarning [03:15] on virtual box on my desktop [03:15] installation was done successfully [03:15] When I am logging in [03:16] if I choose 'Sugar' as session, it crashes and reverts the session to 'Gnome' [03:16] Ahh yes, I remember that. [03:17] I think this is posted in Launchpad also.. but I am unable to find it [03:17] :( [03:18] Launchpad is really a mess right now.. dfarning [03:18] dipankar, before getting into that, I would suggest uploading your new presence-server package and rebuilding the iso image. [03:18] dfarning, you are suggesting to use the new iso that will be built on Build Machine? [03:19] dipankar, yes. [03:19] that will ensure that everything is fresh. [03:19] ok dfarning, give me 15 minutes. I will do the changes on ppa [03:21] ok, I log out and try to reproduce the issues here I be back in a few minutes. [03:22] dfarning, sure [03:39] dfarning, The new package is getting rejected [03:39] dipankar: what is the error you are gettinng? [03:39] although I have deleted the first one [03:39] I am forwarding you the mail [03:40] dfarning, sent it [03:42] dipankar, you forgot to update the changelog entry from unstable to lucid. [03:42] oh man.. lfaraone told me not to change anything in the change log.. :( [03:43] no problem.. I will do that in a minute [03:45] dipankar: well, you can override the changelog contents with a ppa upload path. [03:45] dipankar: but there's no way you could have known that :) [03:46] dfarning, how to do that?? [03:46] dipankar: see https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Uploading [03:46] dipankar: esp "Using packages from other distributions" [03:49] dipankar, I have be changing the top line of the changelog to end with 'lucid; urgency=low' rather than 'unstable; urgency=low' [03:50] but lfaraone idea also makes sense. [03:51] hmm .. I agree.. It makes sense.. 'why make changes in changelog just to get the 'lucid' ' [03:52] dfarning: I figure if you're not making any other changes in the package, you should avoid making frivilous changes if you can. [03:52] lfaraone, makes sense [03:55] lfaraone, are you able to reproduce the mouse button issue? [03:55] dfarning: I was a little while ago, I haven't tried so recently. [03:56] I still get it every time I start sugar either as a session or using the emulator. [03:56] the graduation went from 12h - 18h. 19h-21h was taking care of the laptop repair queue. and then we get up to now. [03:56] dfarning: was it an issue in metacity or using compiz? [03:57] lfaraone, busy:) [03:57] dfarning: I remember someone (maybe tomeu?) mentioning it may be related to a compiz plugin. [03:57] lfaraone, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar/+bug/479179 [03:58] dfarning: sounds like a gnome / compiz bug. two fixes I see: [03:58] A) have sugar not change metacity keybindings (ugly and probably not useful) [03:59] B) have sugar send an alert to change them back to what they were before it started so compiz picks up on the change. [03:59] C) tell people to disable the gnome-intergretion plugin. [03:59] C.1) file a report against said plugin. [04:03] dfarning: I think C is the way forward :) [04:04] lfaraone, hi good morning. [04:04] dipankar: it's 23h :) [04:05] The time-zones.. :P [04:09] lfaraone, with reference to the site: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Uploading [04:09] I am unable to locate the file : .dput.cf [04:09] I am trying to override the upload method in ppa [04:10] dipankar: you have to create it in ~. [04:11] okay.. in my home directory.. [04:11] dipankar: yeah. you'll want something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/454785/ [04:12] lfaraone, can we programatically disable the plugin/compiz when the session or emulator start? [04:12] dfarning: I'm not sure. [04:13] lfaraone, what does Fedora do? [04:13] dfarning: asking in #compiz or #compiz-dev may be a good idea. [04:13] dfarning: I'm also not sure. This is outside my relm of expertise. [04:13] dfarning: sdz or tomeu would probably be good folks to talk to about that. [04:13] Way beyond mine too. [04:15] lfaraone, Whats the significance of leaving login = anonymous [04:15] ? [04:16] dipankar: that's a FTP setting. it means that LP doesn't care if you authenticate when uploading the package, it only cares if the package's changes file is signed. [04:16] luke, Would you mind helping dipankar talk to sdz and tomeu. I am not sure when they come on irc. I agree they would be the first good contacts. [04:17] dfarning: sure, but it's getting near midnight :) [04:18] Yes, first thing tomorrow will be fine. [04:19] till then, can you guys suggest me how to reproduce the bug.. 'cause I still haven't experienced that [04:20] It will be great to try it out first :) [ For the first time, I am ready to add a bug on my machine :P] [04:21] dipankar: do you use compiz? [04:22] lfaraone: nope, not on USR [04:22] dipankar: okay. well, the bug is "after using sugar my normal GNOME session with Compiz has issues where single clicks are being interpreted as alt-clicks (drags) [04:25] lfaraone, does that mean the bug occurs only after closing the emulator? [04:25] dipankar: I think so. [04:26] lfaraone, one thing that amazes me is "why I am not getting this error"? [04:26] dipankar: well, you won't get it if you're not using compiz. [04:28] as far as I remember both Ankur and Kandarp are not using compiz [04:28] Add neeraj to the list too [04:29] lfaraone, btw I have pushed the packages [forced method] to ppa [04:31] dipankar, I get have USR installed on my desktop as a normal package. I have compiz turned on. I can reproduce the bug whenever I start sugar from the menu. [04:31] dipankar, everything seems to work inside of sugar, but if I click anywhere out side of the sugar window I need to hold down the ALT key. [04:31] dfarning: unrelated, this is a pretty useful page: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/multidistrotools/sugar.html [04:33] dfarning, lfaraone : which version of ubuntu is sid?? [04:34] dipankar: sid is Debian :) [04:34] oops.. [04:34] got that later.. [04:34] my bad :( [It was written on topic of the page [04:36] no worries. [04:36] anyway, I'm off for the night. see you in 9-10 hours :) [04:37] Good night lfaraone... i will try to make sure that package is uploaded properly [04:38] dipankar, do you have stuff to keep you productive until we wake up? [04:39] dfarning, I am assigned by Manu Sir to find as many bugs as possible. And also file in a report of how we removed the start-up bug [04:39] Not much work i guess [04:39] is there any work you want me to do? [04:42] dfarning, ? [04:43] The other thing is would be to look at why when ever one starts the USR.desktop session why the screen is grey and the icons don's show up.... It works with the SUGAR session. [04:46] dfarning, I am not getting it. You mean whenever I log-in through 'sugar' session there is a grey screen and gnome icons don't show up? [04:46] Its like working in Sugar (proper OS)?? [04:48] Hmm it does not work for me. I guess poke around, find and explore bugs then we will come back on in the morning (for us) [04:49] ok dfarning, will look into that too. :) See you in 9-10 hours. [04:49] good night [04:49] good night. [04:51] hi kandarpk [04:51] hi [04:52] you can get attention of any user by typing their ids [04:52] type first two letters and press tab [04:52] you will automatically get their id [04:52] give it a try. [04:52] yeah [04:54] that way you can get their attention : kandarpk [04:54] see the difference? last line came in red color [04:54] ok [04:54] dipankar, got your point [04:55] great. [04:55] you can go through the previous discussions above. [04:57] welcome kandarpk:) I need to get to sleep so I can be back online early tomorrow morning:) [04:57] see you then [04:57] dfarning, sure [04:57] good night [05:01] kandarpk, we have sorted the start-up issue as you may know [05:01] dipankar, could not install USR last night [05:01] will give it a try today [05:02] no problem kandarpk [05:03] kandarpk, we are to start with the mouse click bug now [05:03] the most interesting thing is, I still am not getting the bug [05:04] yeah, thats interesting [05:04] are other people too facing the problem ? [05:05] they are reporting in that using compiz is creating the bug [05:06] hmmm [05:06] is this the same bug that you are facing: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar/+bug/479179 [05:07] exactly the same [05:08] in my case, the value of mouse_button_modifier under metacity was getting modified [05:09] you use compiz? [05:10] yes [05:11] ok.. they were (luke and david) correct then [05:11] using compiz led to the bug [05:11] correct about ? [05:11] ok [05:12] so you found a fix for that? [05:13] what i did was [05:13] either :- [05:14] 1) remove ~/.gconf/apps/metacity [05:14] it had a gconf file which was setting value of mouse_button_modifier to disabled [05:15] so editing that file by replacing lt;Altgt; too solved the problem [05:15] or [05:15] 2) [05:16] in gconf-editor [05:16] set /apps/metacity/mouse_button_modifier to [05:17] which was somehow modified to disabled [05:18] but [05:18] these methods did not fix the issue permanently [05:19] the problem occurs whenever I start sugar-emulator [05:21] ok.. thanks for sharing it here when david and luke get back.. they will find this info here [05:24] ok That means the bug is triggered when we start the emulator [05:24] ? [05:24] kandarpk, ? [05:25] great neeraj [05:25] absolutely [05:25] I m in metro.. [05:26] :) [05:26] metro? like train? [05:26] Hi kandarp sir [05:26] yup.. [05:26] thats great. [05:26] hello Neeraj [05:26] neeraj please try to use the on screen ids.. [05:26] Ok.. [05:27] that way the person whom you are referring is notified. [05:27] dipankar, when is the meeting for fixing the mouse bug? [05:27] neeraj : where are you heading to btw? [05:27] Its right now I guess. [05:28] dipankar, can't we schedule it in eve? [05:28] I am heading to mayapuri, I will be free from there after 6pm or so.. [05:29] we can reschedule it neeraj and kandarpk .. That way david and luke can also join in. But Manu Sir may not be present [05:31] what say kandarpk and neeraj ? [05:32] I dont have any issues [05:32] dipankar, I will be available after 6 for sure.. Just inform me the exact time when u people will meet.. [05:33] I'll be available after 7:30 [05:33] So that i can make sure that I am not sleeping or travelling at that time. [05:33] or before 5:00 [05:36] kandarpk, neeraj : I generally join this IRC around 5-6 pm in the evening and that continues till 10 pm. So it would be great if you could join in that slot. [05:37] and in the morning it is 6 am to 9 am [05:37] If you both can try please try to test the following things today: [05:38] 1. Mouse Bug (high priority): Kandaarp Sir has mentioned some of the important methods to FIX temporarily [05:39] 2. This one is put in by David : The other thing is would be to look at why when ever one starts the USR.desktop session why the screen is grey and the icons don's show up.... It works with the SUGAR session. [05:40] I myself did not get what David said tough.. [05:40] :) [05:40] 3. would be to check the session selection crash. [05:41] neeraj_, you there? [05:41] dipankar, i got dc.. no network in underground route of metro :( [05:42] no problem.. [05:42] it will be there on IRC. [05:42] you can check it out whenever you get network [05:42] dipankar, ok [05:44] about the meeting neeraj_ join us at around 6pm. kandarpk can join us after 7:30pm.. Ok? [05:44] dipankar, fine [05:44] dipankar, this is fine with me.. [05:45] so see you guys after 5pm.. Till then please try to work on the bugs that I have mentioned above ^^ [05:47] bye kandarpk neeraj__ [05:47] bye dipankar [05:48] bye dipankar [07:51] dfarning: around? [11:10] dfarning : around? [11:10] ankurkhurana : Hi Ankur. [11:10] Hi sir [11:11] ankurkhurana : Please start working on the mouse control blocker issue. Kindly ask Dipankar to come online too. [11:12] i have called him [11:12] Dipankar will be online in 3-4 min. [11:13] Thanks Ankur. [11:13] Let us start working on the blocker issue. [11:14] right sir, i was just waiting for dipankar and kandarp to be online === dipankar is now known as dipankard [11:15] Great. Thanks Ankur. [11:15] hello All [11:15] dipankard : Hi Dipankar. [11:15] Hello Manusheel sir [11:16] Hello Dipankar [11:16] Ankur is here. Ankur informed me that Kandarp will join in 3-4 mins. [11:16] Let us start working on the mouse blocker issue. [11:16] sir i informed about Dipankar. [11:16] okay [11:17] is dfarning also with us? [11:17] i called Dipankar [11:17] not Kandarp [11:19] Manusheel, sir.. lets start then.. [11:20] dipankard: Sure. [11:20] Let us start working on the issue. [11:20] dfarning: Around? [11:20] dipankard: I think David is not here. [11:20] I think dfarning will join in later. [11:20] same here [11:21] Ok, no worries. Dipankar, you are familiar with the steps, right. [11:21] I guess so Sir. [11:23] Okay [11:23] BUG: [11:23] Mouse Left click doesn't work when emulator is ran in GNOME [11:23] POSSIBLE REASON: [11:24] Till now lfaraone and dfarning have closed in on compiz [11:24] and some gnome plugin [11:24] it is not compiz, it is more of compiz and emulator interaction [11:25] default settings are being changed when emulator is ran [11:25] okay. ankurkhurana [11:26] dipankard, also one point to note is that, the problem is not universal , as i suppose you are not getting [11:26] same problem on your system [11:26] It seems like a simple bug fix. Dipankar and Ankur, let us arrive at a good conclusion on this issue. Ankur, yes, give it a shot. [11:26] yup ankurkhurana. I guess so [11:27] one second guys.. let me join through my laptop [11:27] Manusheel sir , I would be needing some guidance here [11:28] ankurkhurana, you may explain the steps that you found so far [11:28] ankurkhurana : Sure. [11:28] some initial pointers so that so i can go and work around it [11:28] and fix the bug [11:29] dipankard, I took the bug in starting as my system specific not as emulator driven [11:29] so i tried to workaround it rather than fixing the code. [11:29] as initially i didn't know it was due to emulator. [11:30] Some workarounds(partial, as problem will reoccur when you restart emulator) [11:30] Online [11:31] dipankar, have you received the chat? [11:31] yup ankurkhurana .. sure [11:31] or you have missed in between? [11:31] carry on [11:31] okay [11:31] I am both on my laptop and desktop :) [11:31] okay [11:32] 1.Install compizconfig setting manager. And go to preferences,and select reset to default(note:-select flat file configuration in backend,then press reset. Then again select gconf again and then press reset. Only pressing reset to default wont change anything). [11:32] 2.a)log offb)log inc)go to ->system->preferences->windows manager there select alt as your button or super as your button. Alternating between them.(not a good option to this as logging in and logging off eats lots of time) [11:32] 3. delete .gconf folder(risky, as I currently don't know what side effects it will have on my system). [11:33] see, all of this are way of getting out when we are stuck without mouse click [11:33] none of there address real issue here. [11:33] *them [11:33] dipankar, any inputs on above statements? [11:34] ankurkhurana, I have some info from Kandarp this morning [11:34] just a sec [11:35] following is a similar bug : https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar/+bug/479179 [11:36] Please go through the chat session here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/454917/ [11:36] ankurkhurana, that site was suggested by David too [11:37] Manusheel Sir, please do go through the link I have pasted [11:37] dipankar : Sure. [11:37] Thank you dipankar. [11:38] dipankar, i have gone through your chats. [11:38] it similar to yours [11:38] ankurkhurana, [11:38] with kandarp. but i have one confusion here. AFAIK using compiz is not an option [11:39] ok [11:39] we all use compiz in ubuntu [11:39] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compiz [11:39] hmm.. [11:39] Manusheel, please correct me if i am wrong [11:40] that compiz setting manager is for enhancements which i suggested to install [11:40] ankurkhurana : Yes, we all use compiz in ubuntu. [11:40] ankurkhurana, I thought we have metacity was the default window manager [11:40] Not sure, whether it is a necessity. But, we do need it. [11:40] and in our to get our left click back [11:40] dipankar : Thank you. [11:40] The chats are pretty good. [11:40] thank Manusheel sir [11:41] * ->you [11:42] ankurkhurana, you are correct. We all have compiz pre installed - checked it in synaptic package manager [11:42] i am pasting following line from Wikipedia here:Ubuntu - available in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS and later from in the universe apt repository. A limited version is included by default as "Desktop-Effects" in Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn). Since Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon), Compiz Fusion is enabled by default [11:44] Manusheel sir, any suggestion? [11:44] okay.. now according to kandarp, the mouse_button_modifier under metacity was getting modified [11:45] whenever emulator was started [11:45] ankurkhurana: Let us try and remove Compiz, and give it a shot. We can get it back too. [11:45] Following the hacking strategy. [11:46] If things don't work out, we'll re-install using synaptic package manager. [11:46] what are your thoughts on it? [11:46] worth a try [11:47] Manusheel sir, we can give it a try [11:47] Ok, great, Ankur. Thats' the developer spirit. [11:47] but shouldn't we find the problem from our side [11:47] Sure. [11:47] We must. [11:47] rather than removing compiz, as compiz is working with other things correctly? [11:47] Sure. [11:48] but [11:48] we [11:48] can always remove compiz and see what is the result [11:48] use synaptic package manager to remove compiz.. I guess thats the best way [11:49] and safest too [11:49] which one, all of them or only compiz? [11:49] first try with compiz [11:49] ankurkhurana: It is an open ended question right now. So, try out various approaches. [11:49] it will prompt with the dependencies [11:50] Manusheel sir: we are giving it a try right now.Will David and Luke be joining us later this evening? [11:51] ankurkhurana : They should have joined by now. Dipankar told me that David said 6:00 am. 6:00 am is 3:30 pm, India time. [11:52] However, no problem. We should be here on time, and do our best. [11:52] Manusheel sir: [11:52] removing compiz worked [11:52] I am glad that you and Dipankar are here on time. [11:53] That is a good work culture. [11:53] my left click is working even after i ran emulator [11:53] actually Manusheel sir, David told that time slot a few days back.. may be he doesn't know about this meeting [11:53] i will reinstall compiz and see if that resolves our problem [11:53] great [11:54] Sorry [11:54] dipankar: Ok. [11:54] my mistake: removing compiz didn't work [11:54] great kandarpk has joined us [11:55] i ran it for second time and it messed up with my left clcik [11:55] no problem ankurkhurana , now when did the working stop? [11:55] the point here to note is that [11:55] 1. at first trial:i closed xephyr before it crashed(i havent worked out presence activity yet) [11:56] 2.second trial: it crashed and it changed my left click setting. [11:56] dipankar, please give me some pointers to fix presence activity now [11:56] i have the changed rules file sent by luke with me [11:56] I will have to send the .deb package to all. [11:57] I have sent an e-mail [11:57] to all of you [11:57] please follow that and the start-up bug will be removed [11:58] Manusheel, kandarpk and ankurkhurana : Also I have deleted the s-p-s package from launchpad [11:58] I think there won't be any prompt now [11:59] [PS: I am still stuck with the dput overriden-method... I have to ask lfaraone about it] [12:02] ankurkhurana, Manusheel sir: did you get the mail? [12:02] dipankar, i got the mail, and i am working on the procedure described. [12:03] dipankar: Yes, neat work. Thank you writing the steps very clearly. [12:03] Do document it side by side. [12:03] sure sir.. [12:03] kandarpk: Hi Kandarp. Around? [12:04] yes [12:04] I am here [12:04] kandarp: Great. Kindly investigate the issue at your end too. [12:05] Please send me an update. [12:06] I'll let you know by 8 [12:06] not using my PC right now [12:07] ok, sure. [12:08] Manusheel sir, ankur is setting up emulator in a couple of minutes [12:09] dipankar: Great. Thanks for the update. [12:11]