[02:51] <dipankar> good morning dfarning
[02:52] <dfarning> dipankar, good morning.  I tested your package and it worked great!
[02:53] <dfarning> Do you have a plan for the mouse bug?
[02:53] <dipankar> YAY! It feels so great dfarning, only one more thing: to push the package into ppa
[02:53] <dfarning> yep
[02:54] <dipankar> dfarning, the problem is, I am not experiencing any kind of problem with mouse
[02:55] <dfarning> dipankar, hmmm
[02:55] <dfarning> lfaraone, Are you around?
[02:56] <dfarning> dipankar, I am searching my email for the recent thread.
[02:57] <dfarning> dipankar, it was in a thread called Bug:mouse left click stop working 8 days ago.
[02:58] <dfarning> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar/+bug/479179
[03:02] <dipankar> dfarning, I think it has something to do with hardware interfacing
[03:03] <dipankar> lfaraone, are you around?
[03:04] <dipankar> dfarning, is there any way I can reproduce it on my pc
[03:04] <dfarning> dipankar, compiz is a package that adds all of the fancy effects to the scree/window see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compiz
[03:04] <dipankar> ?
[03:05] <dfarning> dipankar, try going to preferences -> apearences -> visual effects/
[03:06] <dfarning> You should be able to turn on the effects from that panel.
[03:07] <dipankar> dfarning, I am using compiz :) After I screwed up something in themes.. I have to use it for proper working
[03:09] <dfarning> dipankar, hmm maybe you screwed up something with prevents the bug from happening:)
[03:10] <dfarning> Do you work from the office? Ankur we could reproduce the issue.
[03:10] <dipankar> dfarning, :).. I am using compiz on my laptop on which USR is not installed.
[03:11] <dipankar> We all work from home dfarning
[03:11] <dipankar> Also Ankur is unavailable for a couple of days
[03:11] <dfarning> ok, I was wondering how that worked
[03:11] <dipankar> he expected to be back today
[03:12] <dipankar> dfarning, The sugar session still crashes..
[03:12] <dipankar> we have to look into that too
[03:13] <dfarning> dipankar, what is the session crash issue?  I'll see if I can reproduce it.
[03:14] <dipankar> dfarning, I will start from beginning:
[03:14] <dipankar> I installed USR from the ISO thats is available at people.sl.org/dfarning
[03:15] <dipankar> on virtual box on my desktop
[03:15] <dipankar> installation was done successfully
[03:15] <dipankar> When I am logging in
[03:16] <dipankar> if I choose 'Sugar' as session, it crashes and reverts the session to 'Gnome'
[03:16] <dfarning> Ahh yes, I remember that.
[03:17] <dipankar> I think this is posted in Launchpad also.. but I am unable to find it
[03:17] <dipankar> :(
[03:18] <dipankar> Launchpad is really a mess right now.. dfarning
[03:18] <dfarning> dipankar, before getting into that, I would suggest uploading your new presence-server package and rebuilding the iso image.
[03:18] <dipankar> dfarning, you are suggesting to use the new iso that will be built on Build Machine?
[03:19] <dfarning> dipankar, yes.
[03:19] <dfarning> that will ensure that everything is fresh.
[03:19] <dipankar> ok dfarning, give me 15 minutes. I will do the changes on ppa
[03:21] <dfarning> ok, I log out and try to reproduce the issues here I be back in a few minutes.
[03:22] <dipankar> dfarning, sure
[03:39] <dipankar> dfarning, The new package is getting rejected
[03:39] <lfaraone> dipankar: what is the error you are gettinng?
[03:39] <dipankar> although I have deleted the first one
[03:39] <dipankar> I am forwarding you the mail
[03:40] <dipankar> dfarning, sent it
[03:42] <dfarning> dipankar, you forgot to update the changelog entry from unstable to lucid.
[03:42] <dipankar> oh man.. lfaraone told me not to change anything in the change log.. :(
[03:43] <dipankar> no problem.. I will do that in a minute
[03:45] <lfaraone> dipankar: well, you can override the changelog contents with a ppa upload path.
[03:45] <lfaraone> dipankar: but there's no way you could have known that :)
[03:46] <dipankar> dfarning, how to do that??
[03:46] <lfaraone> dipankar: see https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Uploading
[03:46] <lfaraone> dipankar: esp "Using packages from other distributions"
[03:49] <dfarning> dipankar, I have be changing the top line of the changelog to end with  'lucid; urgency=low' rather than 'unstable; urgency=low'
[03:50] <dfarning> but lfaraone idea also makes sense.
[03:51] <dipankar> hmm .. I agree.. It makes sense.. 'why make changes in changelog just to get the 'lucid' '
[03:52] <lfaraone> dfarning: I figure if you're not making any other changes in the package, you should avoid making frivilous changes if you can.
[03:52] <dfarning> lfaraone, makes sense
[03:55] <dfarning> lfaraone, are you able to reproduce the mouse button issue?
[03:55] <lfaraone> dfarning: I was a little while ago, I haven't tried so recently.
[03:56] <dfarning> I still get it every time I start sugar either as a session or using the emulator.
[03:56] <lfaraone> the graduation went from 12h - 18h. 19h-21h was taking care of the laptop repair queue. and then we get up to now.
[03:56] <lfaraone> dfarning: was it an issue in metacity or using compiz?
[03:57] <dfarning> lfaraone, busy:)
[03:57] <lfaraone> dfarning: I remember someone (maybe tomeu?) mentioning it may be related to a compiz plugin.
[03:57] <dfarning> lfaraone, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar/+bug/479179
[03:58] <lfaraone> dfarning: sounds like a gnome / compiz bug. two fixes I see:
[03:58] <lfaraone> A) have sugar not change metacity keybindings (ugly and probably not useful)
[03:59] <lfaraone> B) have sugar send an alert to change them back to what they were before it started so compiz picks up on the change.
[03:59] <lfaraone> C) tell people to disable the gnome-intergretion plugin.
[03:59] <lfaraone> C.1) file a report against said plugin.
[04:03] <lfaraone> dfarning: I think C is the way forward :)
[04:04] <dipankar> lfaraone, hi good morning.
[04:04] <lfaraone> dipankar: it's 23h :)
[04:05] <dipankar> The time-zones.. :P
[04:09] <dipankar> lfaraone, with reference to the site: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Uploading
[04:09] <dipankar> I am unable to locate the file : .dput.cf
[04:09] <dipankar> I am trying to override the upload method in ppa
[04:10] <lfaraone> dipankar: you have to create it in ~.
[04:11] <dipankar> okay.. in my home directory..
[04:11] <lfaraone> dipankar: yeah. you'll want something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/454785/
[04:12] <dfarning> lfaraone, can we programatically disable the plugin/compiz when the session or emulator start?
[04:12] <lfaraone> dfarning: I'm not sure.
[04:13] <dfarning> lfaraone, what does Fedora do?
[04:13] <lfaraone> dfarning: asking in #compiz or #compiz-dev may be a good idea.
[04:13] <lfaraone> dfarning: I'm also not sure. This is outside my relm of expertise.
[04:13] <lfaraone> dfarning: sdz or tomeu would probably be good folks to talk to about that.
[04:13] <dfarning> Way beyond mine too.
[04:15] <dipankar> lfaraone, Whats the significance of leaving login = anonymous
[04:15] <dipankar> ?
[04:16] <lfaraone> dipankar: that's a FTP setting. it means that LP doesn't care if you authenticate when uploading the package, it only cares if the package's changes file is signed.
[04:16] <dfarning> luke,  Would you mind helping dipankar talk to sdz and tomeu. I am not sure when they come on irc.  I agree they would be the first good contacts.
[04:17] <lfaraone> dfarning: sure, but it's getting near midnight :)
[04:18] <dfarning> Yes, first thing tomorrow will be fine.
[04:19] <dipankar> till then, can you guys suggest me how to reproduce the bug.. 'cause I still haven't experienced that
[04:20] <dipankar> It will be great to try it out first :)  [ For the first time, I am ready to add a bug on my machine :P]
[04:21] <lfaraone> dipankar: do you use compiz?
[04:22] <dipankar> lfaraone: nope, not on USR
[04:22] <lfaraone> dipankar: okay. well, the bug is "after using sugar my normal GNOME session with Compiz has issues where single clicks are being interpreted as alt-clicks (drags)
[04:25] <dipankar> lfaraone, does that mean the bug occurs only after closing the emulator?
[04:25] <lfaraone> dipankar: I think so.
[04:26] <dipankar> lfaraone, one thing that amazes me is "why I am not getting this error"?
[04:26] <lfaraone> dipankar: well, you won't get it if you're not using compiz.
[04:28] <dipankar> as far as I remember both Ankur and Kandarp are not using compiz
[04:28] <dipankar> Add neeraj to the list too
[04:29] <dipankar> lfaraone, btw I have pushed the packages [forced method] to ppa
[04:31] <dfarning> dipankar, I get have USR installed on my desktop as a normal package.  I have compiz turned on.  I can reproduce the bug  whenever I start sugar from the menu.
[04:31] <dfarning> dipankar, everything seems to work inside of sugar, but if I click anywhere out side of the sugar window I need to hold down the ALT key.
[04:31] <lfaraone> dfarning: unrelated, this is a pretty useful page: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/multidistrotools/sugar.html
[04:33] <dipankar> dfarning, lfaraone : which version of ubuntu is sid??
[04:34] <lfaraone> dipankar: sid is Debian :)
[04:34] <dipankar> oops..
[04:34] <dipankar> got that later..
[04:34] <dipankar> my bad :( [It was written on topic of the page
[04:36] <lfaraone> no worries.
[04:36] <lfaraone> anyway, I'm off for the night. see you in 9-10 hours :)
[04:37] <dipankar> Good night lfaraone... i will try to make sure that package is uploaded properly
[04:38] <dfarning> dipankar, do you have stuff to keep you productive until we wake up?
[04:39] <dipankar> dfarning, I am assigned by Manu Sir to find as many bugs as possible. And also file in a report of how we removed the start-up bug
[04:39] <dipankar> Not much work i guess
[04:39] <dipankar> is there any work you want me to do?
[04:42] <dipankar> dfarning, ?
[04:43] <dfarning> The other thing is would be to look at why when ever one starts the USR.desktop session why the screen is grey and the icons don's show up.... It works with the SUGAR session.
[04:46] <dipankar> dfarning, I am not getting it. You mean whenever I log-in through 'sugar' session there is a grey screen and gnome icons don't show up?
[04:46] <dipankar> Its like working in Sugar (proper OS)??
[04:48] <dfarning> Hmm it does not work for me.  I guess poke around, find  and explore bugs then we will come back on in the morning (for us)
[04:49] <dipankar> ok dfarning, will look into that too. :) See you in 9-10 hours.
[04:49] <dipankar> good night
[04:49] <dfarning> good night.
[04:51] <dipankar> hi kandarpk
[04:51] <kandarpk> hi
[04:52] <dipankar> you can get attention of any user by typing their ids
[04:52] <dipankar> type first two letters and press tab
[04:52] <dipankar> you will automatically get their id
[04:52] <dipankar> give it a try.
[04:52] <kandarpk> yeah
[04:54] <dipankar> that way you can get their attention : kandarpk
[04:54] <dipankar> see the difference? last line came in red color
[04:54] <kandarpk> ok
[04:54] <kandarpk> dipankar, got your point
[04:55] <dipankar> great.
[04:55] <dipankar> you can go through the previous discussions above.
[04:57] <dfarning> welcome kandarpk:)  I need to get to sleep so I can be back online  early tomorrow morning:)
[04:57] <dfarning> see you then
[04:57] <kandarpk> dfarning, sure
[04:57] <kandarpk> good night
[05:01] <dipankar> kandarpk, we have sorted the start-up issue as you may know
[05:01] <kandarpk> dipankar, could not install USR last night
[05:01] <kandarpk> will give it a try today
[05:02] <dipankar> no problem kandarpk
[05:03] <dipankar> kandarpk, we are to start with the mouse click bug now
[05:03] <dipankar> the most interesting thing is, I still am not getting the bug
[05:04] <kandarpk> yeah, thats interesting
[05:04] <kandarpk> are other people too facing the problem ?
[05:05] <dipankar> they are reporting in that using compiz is creating the bug
[05:06] <kandarpk> hmmm
[05:06] <dipankar> is this the same bug that you are facing: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar/+bug/479179
[05:07] <kandarpk> exactly the same
[05:08] <kandarpk> in my case, the value of mouse_button_modifier under metacity was getting modified
[05:09] <dipankar> you use compiz?
[05:10] <kandarpk> yes
[05:11] <dipankar> ok.. they were (luke and david) correct then
[05:11] <dipankar> using compiz led to the bug
[05:11] <kandarpk> correct about ?
[05:11] <kandarpk> ok
[05:12] <dipankar> so you found a fix for that?
[05:13] <kandarpk> what i did was
[05:13] <kandarpk> either :-
[05:14] <kandarpk> 1) remove ~/.gconf/apps/metacity
[05:14] <kandarpk> it had a gconf file which was setting value of mouse_button_modifier to disabled
[05:15] <kandarpk> so editing that file by replacing lt;Altgt; too solved the problem
[05:15] <kandarpk> or
[05:15] <kandarpk> 2)
[05:16] <kandarpk> in gconf-editor
[05:16] <kandarpk> set /apps/metacity/mouse_button_modifier to <Alt>
[05:17] <kandarpk> which was somehow modified to disabled
[05:18] <kandarpk> but
[05:18] <kandarpk> these methods did not fix the issue permanently
[05:19] <kandarpk> the problem occurs whenever I start sugar-emulator
[05:21] <dipankar> ok.. thanks for sharing it here when david and luke get back.. they will find this info here
[05:24] <dipankar> ok That means the bug is triggered when we start the emulator
[05:24] <dipankar> ?
[05:24] <dipankar> kandarpk, ?
[05:25] <dipankar> great neeraj
[05:25] <kandarpk> absolutely
[05:25] <neeraj> I m in metro..
[05:26] <neeraj> :)
[05:26] <dipankar> metro? like train?
[05:26] <neeraj> Hi kandarp sir
[05:26] <neeraj> yup..
[05:26] <dipankar> thats great.
[05:26] <kandarpk> hello Neeraj
[05:26] <dipankar> neeraj please try to use the on screen ids..
[05:26] <neeraj> Ok..
[05:27] <dipankar> that way the person whom you are referring is notified.
[05:27] <neeraj> dipankar, when is the meeting for fixing the mouse bug?
[05:27] <dipankar> neeraj : where are you heading to btw?
[05:27] <dipankar> Its right now I guess.
[05:28] <neeraj> dipankar, can't we schedule it in eve?
[05:28] <neeraj> I am heading to mayapuri, I will be free from there after 6pm or so..
[05:29] <dipankar> we can reschedule it neeraj and kandarpk .. That way david and luke can also  join in. But Manu Sir may not be present
[05:31] <dipankar> what say kandarpk and neeraj ?
[05:32] <kandarpk> I dont have any issues
[05:32] <neeraj> dipankar, I will be available after 6 for sure.. Just inform me the exact time when u people will meet..
[05:33] <kandarpk> I'll be available after 7:30
[05:33] <neeraj> So that i can make sure that I am not sleeping or travelling at that time.
[05:33] <kandarpk> or before 5:00
[05:36] <dipankar> kandarpk, neeraj : I generally join this IRC around 5-6 pm in the evening and that continues till 10 pm. So it would be great if you could join in that slot.
[05:37] <dipankar> and in the morning it is 6 am to 9 am
[05:37] <dipankar> If you both can try please try to test the following things today:
[05:38] <dipankar> 1. Mouse Bug (high priority): Kandaarp Sir has mentioned some of the important methods to FIX temporarily
[05:39] <dipankar> 2. This one is put in by David : The other thing is would be to look at why when ever one starts the USR.desktop session why the screen is grey and the icons don's show up.... It works with the SUGAR session.
[05:40] <dipankar> I myself did not get what David said tough..
[05:40] <dipankar> :)
[05:40] <dipankar> 3. would be to check the session selection crash.
[05:41] <dipankar> neeraj_, you there?
[05:41] <neeraj__> dipankar, i got dc.. no network in underground route of metro :(
[05:42] <dipankar> no problem..
[05:42] <dipankar> it will be there on IRC.
[05:42] <dipankar> you can check it out whenever you get network
[05:42] <neeraj__> dipankar, ok
[05:44] <dipankar> about the meeting neeraj_ join us at around 6pm. kandarpk can join us after 7:30pm.. Ok?
[05:44] <kandarpk> dipankar, fine
[05:44] <neeraj__> dipankar, this is fine with me..
[05:45] <dipankar> so see you guys after 5pm.. Till then please try to work on the bugs that I have mentioned above ^^
[05:47] <dipankar> bye kandarpk neeraj__
[05:47] <neeraj__> bye dipankar
[05:48] <kandarpk> bye dipankar
[07:51] <Manusheel> dfarning: around?
[11:10] <Manusheel> dfarning : around?
[11:10] <Manusheel> ankurkhurana : Hi Ankur.
[11:10] <ankurkhurana> Hi sir
[11:11] <Manusheel> ankurkhurana : Please start working on the mouse control blocker issue. Kindly ask Dipankar to come online too.
[11:12] <ankurkhurana> i have called him
[11:12] <ankurkhurana> Dipankar will be online in 3-4 min.
[11:13] <Manusheel> Thanks Ankur.
[11:13] <Manusheel> Let us start working on the blocker issue.
[11:14] <ankurkhurana> right sir, i was just waiting for dipankar and kandarp to be online
[11:15] <Manusheel> Great. Thanks Ankur.
[11:15] <dipankard> hello All
[11:15] <Manusheel> dipankard : Hi Dipankar.
[11:15] <dipankard> Hello Manusheel sir
[11:16] <ankurkhurana> Hello Dipankar
[11:16] <Manusheel> Ankur is here. Ankur informed me that Kandarp will join in 3-4 mins.
[11:16] <Manusheel> Let us start working on the mouse blocker issue.
[11:16] <ankurkhurana> sir i informed about Dipankar.
[11:16] <dipankard> okay
[11:17] <dipankard> is dfarning also with us?
[11:17] <ankurkhurana> i called Dipankar
[11:17] <ankurkhurana> not Kandarp
[11:19] <dipankard> Manusheel, sir.. lets start then..
[11:20] <Manusheel> dipankard: Sure.
[11:20] <Manusheel> Let us start working on the issue.
[11:20] <Manusheel> dfarning: Around?
[11:20] <Manusheel> dipankard: I think David is not here.
[11:20] <dipankard> I think dfarning will join in later.
[11:20] <dipankard> same here
[11:21] <Manusheel> Ok, no worries. Dipankar, you are familiar with the steps, right.
[11:21] <dipankard> I guess so Sir.
[11:23] <dipankard> Okay
[11:23] <dipankard> BUG:
[11:23] <dipankard> Mouse Left click doesn't work when emulator is ran in GNOME
[11:23] <dipankard> POSSIBLE REASON:
[11:24] <dipankard> Till now lfaraone and dfarning have closed in on compiz
[11:24] <dipankard> and some gnome plugin
[11:24] <ankurkhurana> it is not compiz, it is more of compiz and emulator interaction
[11:25] <ankurkhurana> default settings are being changed when emulator is ran
[11:25] <dipankard> okay. ankurkhurana
[11:26] <ankurkhurana> dipankard, also one point to note is that, the problem is not universal , as i suppose you are not getting
[11:26] <ankurkhurana> same problem on your system
[11:26] <Manusheel> It seems like a simple bug fix. Dipankar and Ankur, let us arrive at a good conclusion on this issue. Ankur, yes, give it a shot.
[11:26] <dipankard> yup ankurkhurana. I guess so
[11:27] <dipankard> one second guys.. let me join through my laptop
[11:27] <ankurkhurana> Manusheel sir , I would be needing some guidance here
[11:28] <dipankard> ankurkhurana, you may explain the steps that you found so far
[11:28] <Manusheel> ankurkhurana : Sure.
[11:28] <ankurkhurana> some initial pointers so that so i can go and work around it
[11:28] <ankurkhurana> and fix the bug
[11:29] <ankurkhurana> dipankard, I took the bug in starting as my system specific not as emulator driven
[11:29] <ankurkhurana> so i tried to workaround it rather than fixing the code.
[11:29] <ankurkhurana> as initially i didn't know it was due to emulator.
[11:30] <ankurkhurana> Some workarounds(partial, as problem will reoccur when you restart emulator)
[11:30] <dipankar> Online
[11:31] <ankurkhurana> dipankar,  have you received the chat?
[11:31] <dipankar> yup ankurkhurana .. sure
[11:31] <ankurkhurana> or you have missed in between?
[11:31] <dipankar> carry on
[11:31] <ankurkhurana> okay
[11:31] <dipankar> I am both on my laptop and desktop :)
[11:31] <ankurkhurana> okay
[11:32] <ankurkhurana> 1.Install compizconfig setting manager. And go to preferences,and select reset to default(note:-select flat file configuration in backend,then press reset. Then again select gconf again and then press reset. Only pressing reset to default wont change anything).
[11:32] <ankurkhurana> 2.a)log offb)log inc)go to ->system->preferences->windows manager there select alt as your button or super as your button. Alternating between them.(not a good option to this as logging in and logging off eats lots of time)
[11:32] <ankurkhurana> 3. delete .gconf folder(risky, as I currently don't know what side effects it will have on my system).
[11:33] <ankurkhurana> see, all of this are way of getting out when we are stuck without mouse click
[11:33] <ankurkhurana> none of there address real issue here.
[11:33] <ankurkhurana> *them
[11:33] <ankurkhurana> dipankar, any inputs on above statements?
[11:34] <dipankar> ankurkhurana, I have some info from Kandarp this morning
[11:34] <dipankar> just a sec
[11:35] <ankurkhurana> following is a similar bug : https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar/+bug/479179
[11:36] <dipankar> Please go through the chat session here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/454917/
[11:36] <dipankar> ankurkhurana, that site was suggested by David too
[11:37] <dipankar> Manusheel Sir, please do go through the link I have pasted
[11:37] <Manusheel> dipankar : Sure.
[11:37] <Manusheel> Thank you dipankar.
[11:38] <ankurkhurana> dipankar, i have gone through your chats.
[11:38] <dipankar> it similar to yours
[11:38] <dipankar> ankurkhurana,
[11:38] <ankurkhurana> with kandarp. but i have one confusion here. AFAIK using compiz is not an option
[11:39] <dipankar> ok
[11:39] <ankurkhurana> we all use compiz in ubuntu
[11:39] <ankurkhurana> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compiz
[11:39] <dipankar> hmm..
[11:39] <ankurkhurana> Manusheel,  please correct me if i am wrong
[11:40] <ankurkhurana> that compiz setting manager is for enhancements which i suggested to install
[11:40] <Manusheel> ankurkhurana : Yes, we all use compiz in ubuntu.
[11:40] <dipankar> ankurkhurana, I thought we have metacity was the default window manager
[11:40] <Manusheel> Not sure, whether it is a necessity. But, we do need it.
[11:40] <ankurkhurana> and in our to get our left click back
[11:40] <Manusheel> dipankar : Thank you.
[11:40] <Manusheel> The chats are pretty good.
[11:40] <dipankar> thank Manusheel sir
[11:41] <dipankar> * ->you
[11:42] <dipankar> ankurkhurana, you are correct. We all have compiz pre installed - checked it in synaptic package manager
[11:42] <ankurkhurana> i am pasting following line from Wikipedia here:Ubuntu - available in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS and later from in the universe apt repository. A limited version is included by default as "Desktop-Effects" in Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn). Since Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon), Compiz Fusion is enabled by default
[11:44] <ankurkhurana> Manusheel sir, any suggestion?
[11:44] <dipankar> okay.. now according to kandarp, the mouse_button_modifier under metacity was getting modified
[11:45] <dipankar> whenever emulator was started
[11:45] <Manusheel> ankurkhurana: Let us try and remove Compiz, and give it a shot. We can get it back too.
[11:45] <Manusheel> Following the hacking strategy.
[11:46] <Manusheel> If things don't work out, we'll re-install using synaptic package manager.
[11:46] <Manusheel> what are your thoughts on it?
[11:46] <dipankar> worth a try
[11:47] <ankurkhurana> Manusheel sir, we can give it a try
[11:47] <Manusheel> Ok, great, Ankur. Thats' the developer spirit.
[11:47] <ankurkhurana> but shouldn't we find the problem from our side
[11:47] <Manusheel> Sure.
[11:47] <Manusheel> We must.
[11:47] <ankurkhurana> rather than removing compiz, as compiz is working with other things correctly?
[11:47] <Manusheel> Sure.
[11:48] <ankurkhurana> but
[11:48] <ankurkhurana> we
[11:48] <ankurkhurana> can always remove compiz and see what is the result
[11:48] <dipankar> use synaptic package manager to remove compiz.. I guess thats the best way
[11:49] <dipankar> and safest too
[11:49] <ankurkhurana> which one, all of them or only compiz?
[11:49] <dipankar> first try with compiz
[11:49] <Manusheel> ankurkhurana: It is an open ended question right now. So, try out various approaches.
[11:49] <dipankar> it will prompt with the dependencies
[11:50] <ankurkhurana> Manusheel sir: we are giving it a try right now.Will David and Luke be joining us later this evening?
[11:51] <Manusheel> ankurkhurana : They should have joined by now. Dipankar told me that David said 6:00 am. 6:00 am is 3:30 pm, India time.
[11:52] <Manusheel> However, no problem. We should be here on time, and do our best.
[11:52] <ankurkhurana> Manusheel sir:
[11:52] <ankurkhurana> removing compiz worked
[11:52] <Manusheel> I am glad that you and Dipankar are here on time.
[11:53] <Manusheel> That is a good work culture.
[11:53] <ankurkhurana> my left click is working even after i ran emulator
[11:53] <dipankar> actually Manusheel sir, David told that time slot a few days back.. may be he doesn't know about this meeting
[11:53] <ankurkhurana> i will reinstall compiz and see if that resolves our problem
[11:53] <dipankar> great
[11:54] <ankurkhurana> Sorry
[11:54] <Manusheel> dipankar: Ok.
[11:54] <ankurkhurana> my mistake: removing compiz didn't work
[11:54] <dipankar> great kandarpk has joined us
[11:55] <ankurkhurana> i ran it for second time and it messed up with my left clcik
[11:55] <dipankar> no problem ankurkhurana , now when did the working stop?
[11:55] <ankurkhurana> the point here to note is that
[11:55] <ankurkhurana> 1. at first trial:i closed xephyr before it crashed(i havent worked out presence activity yet)
[11:56] <ankurkhurana> 2.second trial: it crashed and it changed my left click setting.
[11:56] <ankurkhurana> dipankar, please give me some pointers to fix presence activity now
[11:56] <ankurkhurana> i have the changed rules file sent by luke with me
[11:56] <dipankar> I will have to send the .deb package to all.
[11:57] <dipankar> I have sent an e-mail
[11:57] <dipankar> to all of you
[11:57] <dipankar> please follow that and the start-up bug will be removed
[11:58] <dipankar> Manusheel, kandarpk and ankurkhurana : Also I have deleted the s-p-s package from launchpad
[11:58] <dipankar> I think there won't be any prompt now
[11:59] <dipankar> [PS: I am still stuck with the dput overriden-method... I have to ask lfaraone about it]
[12:02] <dipankar> ankurkhurana, Manusheel sir: did you get the mail?
[12:02] <ankurkhurana> dipankar, i got the mail, and i am working on the procedure described.
[12:03] <Manusheel> dipankar: Yes, neat work. Thank you writing the steps very clearly.
[12:03] <Manusheel> Do document it side by side.
[12:03] <dipankar> sure sir..
[12:03] <Manusheel> kandarpk: Hi Kandarp. Around?
[12:04] <kandarpk> yes
[12:04] <kandarpk> I am here
[12:04] <Manusheel> kandarp: Great. Kindly investigate the issue at your end too.
[12:05] <Manusheel> Please send me an update.
[12:06] <kandarpk> I'll let you know by 8
[12:06] <kandarpk> not using my PC right now
[12:07] <Manusheel> ok, sure.
[12:08] <dipankar> Manusheel sir, ankur is setting up emulator in a couple of minutes
[12:09] <Manusheel> dipankar: Great. Thanks for the update.
[12:11] <dipankar> Manusheel Sir, are you having USR installed?
[12:11] <ankurkhurana> Manusheel sir:it will take couple of minutes more
[12:16] <dipankar> Manusheel sir.. you there?
[12:17] <ankurkhurana> @all
[12:17] <ankurkhurana> removing compiz didn't work out
[12:18] <ankurkhurana> so striking out that option
[12:18] <ankurkhurana> and thanks dipankar  for the help
[12:18] <dipankar> anytime ankurkhurana
[12:19] <dipankar> so compiz is not the problem
[12:19] <Manusheel> dipankar: Sorry, got a call.
[12:19] <Manusheel> I am back now.
[12:19] <dipankar> no problem Manusheel sir
[12:19] <Manusheel> dipankar: Yes, I do have USR on my machine.
[12:19] <Manusheel> I have it on my machine since a long time :-)
[12:20] <Manusheel> dipankar: I wish to re-set up USR on my mac pro machine too.
[12:20] <Manusheel> Let me check the steps.
[12:20] <Manusheel> ankurkhurana: Sure, thank you.
[12:22] <dipankar> Correct me if I am wrong, compiz has an option which temporarily make left button work as it is
[12:22] <dipankar> OR
[12:22] <dipankar> compiz has an option for workaround that doesn't make left button work as it is.
[12:22] <dipankar> ?
[12:23] <ankurkhurana> compizconfig setting manager has an option of resetting everything to default
[12:24] <ankurkhurana> making left click work like left click
[12:26] <dipankar> hmm.. Manusheel Sir.. any lead?
[12:28] <Manusheel> dipankar: Not really. I am not well versed with this part. We'll have to try both the options.
[12:29] <Manusheel> dipankar: What are your thoughts on it?
[12:29] <Manusheel> ankurkhurana: What do you think could be a good strategy?
[12:30] <ankurkhurana> Manusheel sir, we need to investigate code.
[12:30] <Manusheel> ok, sure Ankur.
[12:30] <ankurkhurana> when we are done with color choosing part
[12:31] <ankurkhurana> of xephyr, the left click changes
[12:31] <ankurkhurana> that is the part when it happens
[12:32] <dipankar> Manusheel sir, I was thinking of examining the .gconf folder closely
[12:32] <dipankar> t keep a track what changes in that folder when xephyr is turned on
[12:32] <dipankar> * t -> to
[12:33] <dipankar> Manusheel Sir, Can't we get a log file similar to the shell.log in the .sugar/defaults/logs/
[12:33] <dipankar> ?
[12:33] <ankurkhurana> dipankar,
[12:33] <dipankar> which might relate the mouse click to something
[12:34] <Manusheel> dipankar: Sure. Examining the .gconf folder makes sense.
[12:34] <Manusheel> dipankar: I think we can.
[12:35] <Manusheel> Did you have a word with Luke about it?
[12:36] <dipankar> Not till now. It was decided this morning (night for them) that Luke and David will start working on this bug this evening (morning for them)
[12:37] <dipankar> How about I post their conversation of IRC
[12:39] <Manusheel> dipankar: sure.
[12:39] <Manusheel> That would be helpful.
[12:41] <dipankar> Manusheel Sir, here  is the conversation that might be helpful
[12:41] <dipankar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/454942/
[12:43] <ankurkhurana> Manusheel sir, i think we should investigate .gconf file on our end see what happens.
[12:43] <ankurkhurana> and get back to you and team with the results
[12:43] <dipankar> dfarning, you around?
[12:44] <Manusheel> ankurkhurana: Sure.
[12:47] <dipankar> Manusheel sir, any lead?
[12:47] <Manusheel> dipankar: on?
[12:48] <ankurkhurana> Manusheel, I will get back to you with results as i investigate them.Can i ask for permission to leave as of now?
[12:48] <dipankar> on the next step sir/..
[12:50] <Manusheel> ankurkhurana: I'll be on IRC. Let us try to fix the issue by 8:00 pm today.
[12:50] <Manusheel> dipankar: Let us work on the user interface issue.
[12:51] <dipankar> the session bug?
[12:51] <Manusheel> dipankar: Yes.
[12:51] <Manusheel> We should work on that. Are you able to reproduce the issue at your end?
[12:52] <dipankar> no problem sir
[12:52] <Manusheel> dipankar: Were you able to see the issue on your machine?
[12:53] <dipankar> yes sir
[12:53] <dipankar> on the USR I downloaded from people.sl.org/dfarning
[12:53] <dipankar> Manusheel sir: But I am unable to find it in mail
[12:54] <dipankar> the bug on launchpad
[12:54] <Manusheel> dipankar: Didn't get you. Could you please repeat.
[12:55] <dipankar>  Manusheel sir: But I am unable to find it in mail
[12:55] <dipankar> the bug on launchpad
[12:55] <dipankar> I mean the mail in which this bug was taken up
[12:56] <Manusheel> dipankar: Let us check the ubuntu sugar mailing list.
[12:56] <Manusheel> I believe this would have been reported there.
[12:56] <dipankar> Manusheel sir.. I found it
[12:56] <dipankar> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar-0.88/+bug/542338
[12:57] <Manusheel> Ok, great. Dipankar, neat.
[12:57] <dfarning> good morning
[12:57] <dipankar> hey dfarning good morning
[12:58] <dfarning> dipankar, tested sugar again and my mouse is screw up:) I need to log off and log back in to fix it:( one minute.
[13:02] <dipankar> dfarning, Manusheel Sir is online
[13:02] <dipankar> too
[13:02] <Manusheel> dfarning: Good morning David.
[13:03] <dfarning> Yes, I was just reading the backlog.... good morning Manusheel
[13:03] <dipankar> :)
[13:04] <dfarning> My nephew pinched his finger in a door.... had to take him to the doctor to get stitches:(  Thing have been strangly busy for the last couple of weeks!
[13:05] <dipankar> thats sad..
[13:05] <dipankar> poor guy.. how is he right now dfarning ?
[13:06] <dfarning> dipankar,   yes, he is doing fine.  was up by 5:30 am.... running around full speed again.
[13:07] <dfarning> dipankar, how are you coming on the bug?
[13:08] <dipankar> :) Kids..
[13:08] <Manusheel> dfarning: Sorry to hear. Glad he is running around with full speed again.
[13:08] <dipankar> About the bug : We tried removing compiz, but that did not help much
[13:09] <dfarning> yes, they are impressively healthy and bound back....
[13:09] <dipankar> :)
[13:10] <dipankar> also dfarning , we are got info from ankur that if we reset from compiz manager. the left click works again
[13:10] <dfarning> dipankar, I would suggest that you ping tomeu on #sugar he is guy who knows the most about gnome -> sugar interaction
[13:10] <dfarning> dipankar, he is online now:)
[13:11] <dipankar> ok dfarning, so shall we start with the session bug then?
[13:11] <dipankar> oh sorry.. my bad
[13:11] <dipankar> We are taking up the mouse click bug. :)
[13:12] <dfarning> yes:)
[13:12] <dipankar> didn't read your last line properly . dfarning :)
[13:15] <dipankar> dfarning, I guess he is AFK
[13:15] <dipankar> tomeu
[13:15] <dfarning> dipankar, yes it often takes a while for people to respond.
[13:15] <dipankar> :) I get it
[13:16] <dipankar> dfarning, in the meantime. Can you help me with the package uploading of s-p-s. It will be a great help
[13:17] <dfarning> while we are waiting it might be helpful to ask sebastion about the problem he is the lead developer SoaS project.  may be he faced the same issue
[13:17] <dipankar> SoaS project??
[13:18] <dfarning> the normal way of doing that is to ask sdz did you face this issue ^^ with SoaS
[13:18] <dfarning> dipankar, SoaS is Sugar on a Stick. it is a fedora based distro which runs Sugar from a USB stick
[13:19] <dfarning> the ^^ are little up arrows refering to a previouse conversation:)
[13:19] <dipankar> sure.
[13:20] <dfarning> sure, what is the issue with the s-p-s package?
[13:21] <dipankar> tomeu replied back dfarning
[13:21] <dfarning> dipankar, great
[13:24] <dipankar> dfarning, please do correct me while having conversation with tomeu.. I am still a beginner :) Also I am not facing the problem myself :(
[13:25] <dfarning> dipankar, certainly you are doing great.
[13:25] <dipankar> dfarning, thanks you.
[13:25] <dipankar> * thanks -> thank
[13:29] <dipankar> dfarning, tomeu really takes some time to reply
[13:30] <dfarning> dipankar,   yes, he might be doing something else or reviewing the bug.
[13:30] <dipankar> hmm.. dfarning : about the s-p-s package problem
[13:31] <dipankar> I tried uploading with the new method (bypass one), but unsuccessful
[13:31] <dfarning> dipankar, one suggestion is to read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html  It is kind of the standard for asking questions on mailing lists and IRC
[13:32] <dipankar> this time I again got rejected and the reason this time is : Launchpad failed to process the upload path '~sugarteam/archive/ubuntu/lucid':
[13:32] <dipankar> Could not find a PPA named 'archive' for 'sugarteam'.
[13:32] <dipankar> ok sure dfarning
[13:32] <dfarning> dipankar, what command did you use and what was the error?
[13:33] <dipankar> dfarning, I will explain the steps in details:
[13:33] <dipankar> 1. I made a file ~/.dput.cf
[13:34] <dfarning> oops I am too slow.  I would suggest making the change to the first line of the change log and trying again.  Just to narrow  down where the problem lies.
[13:34] <dipankar> What about Luke's method?
[13:35] <dipankar> in which he suggests of not changing the changelog but still upload the package.. I am stuck on this method :)
[13:36] <dfarning> He method is good.  As part of the debuging process we need to figure out which part of the upload is failing.  That can be trial and error.
[13:37] <dipankar> ok
[13:37] <dipankar> dfarning, sorry to divert again
[13:37] <dipankar> alsroot has helped us:
[13:37] <dipankar> http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1544#comment:16
[13:39] <dfarning> dipankar, no need to apologize.  IRC is confusing because it works like people think:)  jumping from one topic to another as they wait for results on the various projects they are working on.
[13:41] <dipankar> dfarning, the page is very confusing, need help a bit
[13:42] <dfarning> dipankar,  I am reading the bug.   Alsroot is _very_ smart.  He is more of a computer scientists than a computer engineer:)  Always working on innovations and new ideas.
[13:45] <dipankar> i guess alsroot already has the solution
[13:45] <dipankar> he has provided the patch too
[13:48] <dfarning> dipankar, yes.  his patch looks good.  I would suggest trying to apply it to the package in the Sugar Tree.
[13:49] <dipankar> But dfarning, I am not having this issue :) Can you please try that out? Please..
[13:49] <dfarning> dipankar, oops I meant the Ubuntu tree.
[13:49] <dfarning> dipankar, sure one minute
[13:50] <dipankar> thanks dfarning
[13:55] <dipankar> Manusheel Sir, Can you provide the spreadsheet link?
[13:56] <dipankar> on which we are to maintain the bugs listing?
[13:56] <dfarning> dipankar, ok, I made the change to line 232 of /usr/bin/sugar-session -- now I need to log off and log back into sugar. one minute please.
[13:56] <Manusheel> dipankar: Right now, you can just send me an e-mail. I'll add it to the spreadsheet. I have been doing it offline right now. Will be importing it to google spreadsheet over this weekend.
[13:57] <Manusheel> dipankar: Will that be alright with you?
[13:59] <dfarning> dipankar, awesome! It worked:)
[14:00] <Manusheel> dipankar, dfarning: That is great.
[14:00] <dipankar> Manusheel Sir, Thats perfectly fine. Just wanted to look at it.
[14:00] <dipankar> :)
[14:01] <dipankar> dfarning: YAY! Another bug nearing its solution
[14:01] <dfarning> dipankar, Lets thanks tomeu and alsroot on #sugar and tell them the fix worked.
[14:02] <Manusheel> dipankar: Sure.
[14:02] <Manusheel> dfarning: Yes, we should.
[14:02] <dipankar> now we have to just patch it in sugar package
[14:02] <dfarning> dipankar, would you like to take a step back from this bug and finish uploading s-p-s before we forget?
[14:03] <dipankar> sure
[14:03] <dipankar> dfarning, I made the .dput.cf file in ~/ dir
[14:04] <dfarning> can you cut and paste your /dput.cf file so I can look at it?
[14:04] <dipankar> with the entries: http://paste.ubuntu.com/454973/
[14:06] <dipankar> then I ran : dput sugarteam-lucid sugar-presence-service-0.88_0.88.0-1_i386.changes
[14:06] <dipankar> and then the package was rejected
[14:07] <dipankar> forwarded you the rejection mail
[14:08] <dfarning> dipankar, ok I think the incoming line in dput should be ~sugarteam/ppa
[14:09] <dipankar> it should be just "~sugarteam/ppa"??
[14:09] <dipankar> I am also having a confusion with that only dfarning
[14:10] <dfarning> yes this is something canonical changes every couple of months:(
[14:10] <dfarning> dipankar, what is you confussion?
[14:10] <dipankar> the input line :)
[14:11] <dfarning> dipankar, I think that line needs to match the instruction for uploading to ppa found on page https://launchpad.net/~sugarteam/+archive/ppa
[14:12] <dipankar> dfarning, I think that not specifically mentioned there.
[14:12] <dipankar> https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Uploading
[14:12] <dipankar> hi neeraj
[14:13] <neeraj> hi dipankar
[14:14] <dfarning> i think it should match dput ppa:sugarteam/ppa  -> so we need to use ~sugarteam/ppa maybe ~sugarteam/ppa/ubuntu or something similar.
[14:14] <dipankar> neeraj, here is a quick update: We have solved the mouse click bug, using a patch by alsroot
[14:14] <dfarning> dipankar, I am pretty sure the we don't need to add the lucid on the end.
[14:15] <neeraj> ok, I read the log.. I will go through the #sugar log for details
[14:16] <dipankar> dfarning, okay. But the next problem is whenever I change the .dput.cf file and again try to run the command dput.. I get this message:
[14:16] <dipankar> Package has already been uploaded to sugarteam-lucid on ppa.launchpad.net
[14:16] <dipankar> Nothing more to do for sugar-presence-service-0.88_0.88.0-1_i386.changes
[14:17] <dfarning> dipankar, progress:)
[14:18] <dipankar> dfarning, I did not get it :).
[14:19] <dipankar> <I didnot get what you are trying to say>
[14:19] <dfarning> dipankar, this time it found the correct place to put the package....  but now it says a version of that package allready exits.
[14:20] <dfarning> dipankar, we either need to 'bump' up the version number or delete the existing package from the ppa.
[14:20] <dipankar> dfarning, I have already deleted the package
[14:22] <dfarning> dipankar, try using the dput -f .... -f is a force flag.  It will tell dput that 'yes, I really want to do this.'
[14:23] <dipankar> ok dfarning, I am giving it a try
[14:23] <dipankar> dfarning, successful
[14:23] <dipankar> now have to wait for approval
[14:24] <Manusheel> neeraj: I would like to assign you and Dipankar the session bug.
[14:24] <Manusheel> neeraj: Please start investigating this blocker.
[14:24] <dipankar> Manusheel Sir. okay sir no problem
[14:25] <neeraj> Manusheel Sir, ok
[14:25] <dfarning> dipankar, great.  Somehow either dput or launchpad recoginized that the version had allread been uploaded and was rejecting it until you told it you knew what you we doing by upload the same version again.
[14:25] <Manusheel> dipankar: Please have a discussion with Dipankar. I'll be back after a meeting. We'll try and get this issue fixed soon.
[14:25] <Manusheel> neeraj*
[14:26] <Manusheel> Sorry for the typo.
[14:26] <dipankar> :) No Problem Sir
[14:26] <dipankar> right on
[14:26] <Manusheel> dipankar : :-)
[14:27] <neeraj> Manusheel :np :)
[14:27] <dfarning> Manusheel, I am going to make a cup of coffee and be back in a few minutes.  dipankar is make great progress
[14:27] <Manusheel> neeraj : :-)
[14:27] <dipankar> dfarning, again rejected. The same first error. :) have fwded you the email
[14:28] <Manusheel> dfarning: You'll now see Neeraj in great action too.
[14:29] <Manusheel> dipankar: Not a good news.
[14:29] <dfarning> dipankar, look like we are back to the Unable to find distroseries: unstable
[14:29] <dfarning> Further error processing not possible because of a critical previous error.
[14:29] <dfarning> sugar-presence-service-0.88 (0.88.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
[14:29] <neeraj> Manusheel, thanks for your faith.. I am just having a little problem in settling down..
[14:30] <dipankar> Manusheel Sir : Its just a new method we are trying out. We have the old method as back-up :) No worries :)
[14:30] <dipankar> dfarning, I guess it is not getting pushed to Lucid
[14:30] <Manusheel> dipankar and neeraj: Will be back after the meeting. Leave me a message if there is any urgent issue. I'll try my best to make myself available.
[14:30] <dfarning> dipankar, did you use both the -f flag and the --force-lucid flag
[14:31] <dipankar> no only the -f flag.
[14:31] <dfarning> dipankar, we need both.
[14:31] <dfarning> the incoming path tells us where the package should go
[14:32] <dipankar> aww... how come I missed that.. :P
[14:32] <Manusheel> dipankar: Thanks for the assurance :-) Hope we arrive at a good conclusion soon.
[14:32] <dfarning> the -f flag tells us we are doing something that we know LP is going to be mad.
[14:32] <dipankar> :)
[14:33] <dfarning> the --force-lucid flag tells us to build against the lucid distro
[14:33] <dfarning> a lot of stuff:)
[14:33] <dipankar> I didn't get that flag in help :)
[14:33] <dipankar> :)
[14:35] <dipankar> ok! Now a new thing: unknown option --force-lucid
[14:35] <dipankar> where should I put this flag exactly?
[14:35] <dfarning> yes, I found a reference to the -f flag at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/28584
[14:37] <dfarning> was --force-lucid the exact flag lfaraone said to use... I might have a typo in there.
[14:37] <dipankar> I can't recall Luke Mentioning that.. Wish Luke was online. :)
[14:41] <dfarning> dipankar, I am looking at $ dput my-ppa-force-hardy  P_V_source.changes
[14:42] <dipankar> dfarning, the 'my-ppa-force-hardy' is the first line in the .dput.cf file in brackets
[14:42] <dfarning> from https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Uploading#Using packages from other distributions
[14:45] <dfarning> dipankar, ahh got it.  The stuff in brackets is the human readable name for the ppa.... it does not actually do anything:)
[14:46] <dipankar> dfarning, told you that!
[14:47] <dfarning> dipankar, I would just change the top line in changelog.... We can go back to lfaraone shortcut once we know that we have something working:)
[14:48] <dipankar> hehe.. the last resort!
[14:48] <dipankar> no problem!
[14:48] <dipankar> dfarning, will be done in a Jiffy
[14:48] <lfaraone> dipankar / dfarning there's no "force flag" that you pass to dput. dput has no idea what hardy or intrepid or karmic is.
[14:48] <dipankar> hey luke is back
[14:48] <lfaraone> dipankar: what you have to do is create a new target for dput to upload to which has a custom path.
[14:50] <lfaraone> dipankar: like I mentioned before, put something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/454785/ in your ~/.dput.cf file. then run "dput sugarteam-lucid <Changes File Goes Here>".
[14:50] <dfarning> lfaraone, I am not understanding how the custom path and -f flag are interacting with the dput.cnf file.
[14:51] <lfaraone> dfarning: the -f flag does something different, it forces an upload that has already been performed.
[14:51] <dfarning> lfaraone, yes dipankar is facing that issue also becuase he is reusing a version number.
[14:52] <lfaraone> dfarning: the custom path is specified in the ~/.dput.cf file so that dput doesn't put it in the default location
[14:54] <lfaraone> dfarning: okay, then he needs to change the version number. I'd use something like "0.88.1really0.88.0-1~ppa1".
[14:54] <dfarning> lfaraone, Is the custom path actually a location or is LP striping the 'lucid' off the end of the path and using it to identify the distro.
[14:55] <lfaraone> dfarning: yes. :)
[14:56] <dfarning> lfaraone, anyway.  I'll just listen again while you and dipankar work this out.
[14:58] <dfarning> lfaraone, we found a useable patch for the mousebug issue and neeraj has joined us.  A good idea might be to have dipankar talke neeraj through the process of applying the patch and uploading the packages
[14:58] <lfaraone> dfarning: basically, LP looks at the first part of the upload path for the user / team the PPA belongs to. The second identifies the PPA itself. The third, if present, overrides the distro. If you use a ftp client, you'll see that none of these directories actually exist :)
[14:59] <lfaraone> dfarning: you could dput to ~example.invalid/windows/vista on ppa.launchpad.net and it would hapilly allow you to upload, but the queue management software would reject it :)
[15:00] <dfarning> lfaraone, teaching is one of the best ways of learning.  Then you can help explain stuff if diankar gets confused
[15:02] <dfarning> lfaraone, ok got it.  Then I think the path name should be ~sugarteam/ppa/ubuntu/lucid  instead of ~sugarteam/archive/ubuntu/lucid because our ppa is named ppa.
[15:04] <lfaraone> dfarning: yeah, I think archive only works if you have a single PPA :)
[15:04] <lfaraone> dfarning: I just tested and got "Could not find a PPA named 'archive' for 'sugarteam'."
[15:05] <dfarning> neeraj, it looks like we lost dipankar are you ready to apply a patch to fix the mouse button bug?
[15:05] <dfarning> lfaraone, yes that makes sense.
[15:06] <lfaraone> dfarning: okay, I just did a test upload of the GNU Hello (world) package. working dput entry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/454995/
[15:07] <dfarning> lfaraone, great that all make sense now:)
[15:10] <dfarning> lfaraone, this morning dipankar talked to tomeu and alsroot about the mouse button problem.  alsroot suggested that we use the patch at http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/jhconvert/repos/mainline/blobs/master/patches/0.86/1544.patch as a workaround until upstream fixes the issue.
[15:10] <dipankar> dfarning, I still did not get what lfaraone was saying..
[15:10] <ankurkhurana> Hello David ,Luke
[15:11] <dipankar> dfarning, are you there?
[15:12] <dfarning> hello ankurkhurana. dipankar. He can re-explain it:) the developers at LP did something clever.  That is a little hard to understand:(
[15:12] <dipankar> oh.. ankurkhurana , dfarning has left for coffee he was mentioning about a couple of minutes back :)
[15:12] <neeraj__> dipankar, can u guide me in creating a patch for fixing that mouse
[15:12] <ankurkhurana> I have joined right now and it seems that you are working on presence service
[15:12] <dipankar> yup ankurkhurana
[15:13] <ankurkhurana> As you are going for it, i think i should start for session bug
[15:13] <dipankar> neeraj__, sorry buddy. I also don't know about patching
[15:13] <ankurkhurana> as it might not be a very good thing to jump in between
[15:14] <ankurkhurana> neeraj, there was a documentation about patching, sent in by chirag.
[15:14] <dipankar> please do have a look at the patch at : http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/jhconvert/repos/mainline/blobs/master/patches/0.86/1544.patch
[15:15] <ankurkhurana> you might have a look at it.http://paste.ubuntu.com/455001/
[15:15] <ankurkhurana> http://paste.ubuntu.com/455001/
[15:15] <dipankar> neeraj you can try patching, but please don't upload the package until you are 100% sure of it
[15:16] <neeraj__> dipankar, ok
[15:16] <dfarning> dipankar, are any of the seeta guys who have done patches for packages around now?  Or should we wait till lfaraone returns to work on that
[15:17] <neeraj__> I will be back in 15-20 min.. :)
[15:17] <dipankar> dfarning, patching guys are not around at the moment
[15:17] <dipankar> :(
[15:18] <ankurkhurana> dipankar,  can we give it a try?
[15:18] <dipankar> ankurkhurana, ok
[15:19] <dfarning> dipankar, lets set that aside until luke gets back.
[15:19] <dipankar> but ankurkhurana, complete process till packaging only. Once done, try installing the .deb that is created on machine
[15:20] <dipankar> if the package serves the purpose then only upload it.
[15:20] <dfarning> dipankar, are you ready to finish upload s-p-s?
[15:21] <dfarning> weird... I am now getting really long lags
[15:21] <dfarning> somethime over a minute.
[15:21] <dipankar> dfarning, I am ready with the package. But ppa is rejecting them everytime I try to upload
[15:24] <lfaraone> dfarning: back.
[15:24] <lfaraone> dfarning: what command are you using to upload? what is the contents of your dput.cf file?
[15:25] <dfarning> lfaraone, dipankar is doing the uploads
[15:25] <lfaraone> dipankar: see above.
[15:26] <lfaraone> dfarning: sorry, meant that to go to dipankar but autocompletion steered me wrong :)
[15:26] <dfarning> I often send things to bert instead of bernie:(
[15:26] <dipankar> lfaraone, the contents of my .dput.cf files:http://paste.ubuntu.com/455007/
[15:27] <dipankar> :)
[15:27] <dipankar> command for upload: dput -f sugarteam-lucid sugar-presence-service-0.88_0.88.0-1_i386.changes --force-lucid
[15:27] <dipankar> ignore the --force-lucid part
[15:27] <lfaraone> dipankar: okay. "--force-lucid" doesn't do anything, you know :)
[15:28] <lfaraone> dipankar: so the error you're getting is?
[15:28] <dipankar> yeah..
[15:28] <dipankar> lfaraone, the uploading is rejected
[15:28] <dipankar> by ppa
[15:29] <lfaraone> dipankar: okay. what error is the PPA software giving you?
[15:30] <dipankar> Rejected:
[15:30] <dipankar> Unable to find distroseries: unstable
[15:30] <dipankar> Further error processing not possible because of a critical previous error.
[15:30] <dipankar> lfaraone, just a minute, let me try once more
[15:32] <dipankar> lfaraone, : Now a new problem is arising: when I run the command dput.. i get the follwinf o/p:
[15:33] <dipankar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/455008/
[15:34] <lfaraone> dipankar: look at the last message, line 11.
[15:34] <lfaraone> dipankar: what does that seem to mean to you?
[15:35] <dipankar> lfaraone, : I guess it is due to wrong address in input?
[15:35] <lfaraone> dfarning: well, that's possible. it also could be a transient problem with your local internet connection.
[15:35] <ankurkhurana> dipankar,  can't it mean connection error?
[15:36] <lfaraone> * dipankar
[15:36] <dipankar> hmm... well there are possibilities
[15:36] <lfaraone> dipankar: hm. I'm getting the issue too. Launchpad must be having problems at the moment.
[15:37] <dipankar> that explains the lag here too.. we all were facing some kind of lag.. may be its due to some internet problem only
[15:38] <lfaraone> dipankar: Canonical folks are looking into it, we'll find out soon enough.
[15:39] <dipankar> lfaraone, that is great
[15:39] <ankurkhurana> dipankar(FYI), this is for you,run ping 59.179.243.70 in different terminal window.It will work for your ISP, .Just check that whenever you give command, you are connected.this time it might not be case, but in case u need.
[15:39] <dipankar> dfarning, can you please help ankurkhurana getting started with the session bug
[15:40] <dipankar> thanks ankurkhurana ... handy tip!
[15:41] <dipankar> ankurkhurana, its working fine
[15:41] <dipankar> 0% packet loss
[15:41] <ankurkhurana> good, just keep it runnning :), it is always handy.
[15:41] <dipankar> :)
[15:41] <lfaraone> dipankar: it should work now.
[15:42] <dipankar> I will give it a try
[15:43] <dipankar> lfaraone, dfarning, ankurkhurana : Package uploaded. Now to wait for approval
[15:43] <ankurkhurana> dfarning, lfaraone  can you help me get started with the session bug
[15:43] <ankurkhurana> ?
[15:44] <lfaraone> ankurkhurana: the mouse one?
[15:44] <dipankar> lfaraone, The mouse bug is solved. Used a patch workaround by alsroot
[15:45] <lfaraone> dipankar: did you apply the patch to Sugar and upload it?
[15:45] <dipankar> that part is left
[15:45] <ankurkhurana> no,
[15:45] <lfaraone> dipankar: and have you forwarded the patch upstream to Debian? :)
[15:45] <ankurkhurana> i was talking about the sugar session crash
[15:45] <dipankar> nope :(
[15:45] <ankurkhurana> when selected at log in window
[15:46] <dipankar> lfaraone, rejected again: fwded you the e-mail
[15:47] <lfaraone> dipankar: okay. read the first line: "Upload rejected because it contains binary packages. Ensure you are using `debuild -S`, or an equivalent command, to generate only the source package before re-uploading"
[15:48] <dipankar> okay
[15:48] <lfaraone> dipankar: when you build a package for upload to a PPA, it needs to be a source upload.
[15:48] <dipankar> ok
[15:49] <lfaraone> dipankar: so instead of "git-buildpackage", you need to do tell git-buildpackage to do a source-only build.
[15:49] <dipankar> hm. okay
[15:49] <lfaraone> dipankar: what would you pass to git-buildpackage to tell it that?
[15:50] <dfarning> ankurkhurana, , would you like to switch to channel #seeta and we can get started on the session bug while luke and dipankar finish up here?
[15:50] <ankurkhurana> yes
[15:50] <ankurkhurana> definetly
[15:50] <lfaraone> dipankar: (remember that git-buildpackage ignores parameters it doesn't understand and passes them along unmodified to debuild)
[15:50] <ankurkhurana> *definitely
[15:51] <dfarning> ankurkhurana, ok just ping me in #seeta when you are set.
[15:51] <dipankar> in that case lfaraone I would use git-buildpackage -S
[15:52] <lfaraone> dipankar: good, that's correct.
[15:52] <dipankar> :)
[15:52] <dipankar> thanks for the hint
[15:55] <dipankar> lfaraone, I forgot how to use the git-buildpackage command
[15:55] <dipankar> can you show it once again?
[15:57] <lfaraone> dipankar: well, you just invoke "git-buildpackage -S" inside the directory that contains the unpacked sources and the debian/ folder.
[15:57] <dipankar> I am doing that.. But I am getting s-p-s not in git repository
[15:58] <dipankar> ls .git returned nothing
[15:59] <lfaraone> dipankar: is this inside the folder that you checked out from git with debcheckout?
[15:59] <dipankar> lfaraone, : I forgot where I did that.. :( there are so many files on the home folder
[16:00] <lfaraone> dipankar: "find | grep .git" should list all of the paths that contain ".git"
[16:01] <dipankar> lfaraone, started
[16:01] <lfaraone> dipankar: hm?
[16:01] <dipankar> lfaraone, I made a new folder 'work10' and did debcheckout and copied the .orig tarball there
[16:02] <lfaraone> dipankar: mk.
[16:02] <dipankar> okay..
[16:02] <dipankar> now the debsign part
[16:03] <lfaraone> dipankar: it's in the channel logs. see http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/06/24/%23ubuntu-sugarteam.html#t15:20
[16:04] <dipankar> lfaraone, done
[16:04] <dipankar> :)
[16:04] <dipankar> I was just saying my status on terminal
[16:04] <dipankar> I remember the steps to debsign. :)
[16:06] <dipankar> lfaraone, uploaded the package. now to wait for the approval
[16:08] <dipankar> kandarpk, you can join ankurkhurana dfarning and neeraj on # seeta
[16:08] <kandarpk> ok dipankar, thanks
[16:09] <dipankar> no problem kandarpk. :)
[16:12] <dipankar> lfaraone, Finally!!!
[16:12] <dipankar> the package is accepted!!
[16:12] <lfaraone> dipankar: cool.
[16:13] <dipankar> thanks to you and david
[16:13] <dipankar> :)
[16:13] <dfarning> nice
[16:13] <dipankar> btw lfaraone :do you happen to be in school right now?
[16:13] <lfaraone> dipankar: no, had my terminal final on Wed.
[16:14] <dipankar> lfaraone : oh.. i see.. :) nice
[16:14] <dipankar> lfaraone: we should mention about this in mailing list as mentioned
[16:15] <lfaraone> dipankar: which?
[16:15] <dipankar> so that users can remove the s-p-s and revert back to 0.88.0-1 from 0.88.0-2
[16:17] <lfaraone> dipankar: okay. The command is "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install sugar-presence-service=0.88.0-1"
[16:18] <lfaraone> dipankar: if you think it'd be useful, would you write up an email explaining the problem and illustrating the solution? Send it to me when you're done and I'll look it over to ensure it's accurate, and we can then send it out to the list. Sound good?
[16:20] <dipankar> sure lfaraone, but it would take sometime :(
[16:20] <dipankar> lfaraone : but I will definitely do it
[16:20] <lfaraone> dipankar: would you rather I write it? (I don't mind, I just thought you might find it a good exercise to explain what we did today)
[16:22] <dipankar> I will write it lfaraone, its just that I am sitting here for 5 hrs straight now :) and need to have dinner. After that I will send in the e-mail before I go to sleep
[16:22] <lfaraone> dipankar: heh, by all means.
[16:23] <dipankar> lfaraone: :). Next task is the patching I guess
[16:23] <lfaraone> dipankar: yeah. \
[16:23] <lfaraone> hey Ian_Daniher.
[16:24] <dipankar> lfaraone, I am off for dinner. be back in half an hour :)
[16:28] <lfaraone> dipankar: okay. when you're back, I drew up a draft of the email at http://openetherpad.com/7gazEqwLOB. If you compose the mail there, we can work on it in real-time.
[16:33] <dfarning> lfaraone, have you seen the bug where the sugar session crashes immediately after starting.  I have not seen it for a while.
[16:35] <dfarning> lfaraone, it seems to crash before creating any logs in .sugar
[16:37] <lfaraone> dfarning: nope. in that case, ~/.xsession-errors is a good place to look methinks.
[16:37] <lfaraone> dfarning: btw, I'll probably be afk for an hour, I have to prep for the imminent delivery of a new refrigerator.
[16:38] <dfarning> lfaraone, ok see you then.  And yep you are right.  IIRC the problem has something to do with the way ubuntu created new xsessions.
[18:02] <dipankar> lfaraone, you online?
[18:02] <dipankar> *around?
[18:32] <lfaraone> dipankar: yep, what's up?
[18:33] <dipankar> I am working on the e-mail.
[18:33] <dipankar> lfaraone, please tell me if I am going in the right direction? I haven't written a mail like this before.:P
[18:34] <lfaraone> dipankar: give me a sec.
[18:35] <dipankar> sure lfaraone
[18:40] <lfaraone> dipankar: I'm making a few changes, mostly stylistic. What I've read so far is accurate technically.
[18:40] <lfaraone> (which is what I was looking for. I wasn't expecting /Fairwell to Arms/)
[18:44] <dipankar> lfaraone, sorry about the last line /farewell to arms/.. I didn't get it..
[18:45] <lfaraone> dipankar: I meant what you wrote was good.
[18:47] <dipankar> oh... thanks lfaraone
[18:49] <lfaraone> dipankar: okay, I think it's ready to send out. want to mail it to the list?
[18:50] <dipankar> lfaraone, just to clarify, what is GDM? I have heard of it in session selection
[18:51] <lfaraone> dipankar: GDM is the GNOME Display Manager
[18:51] <lfaraone> dipankar: the "user picker"
[18:52] <dipankar> hm.. ohk..
[18:53] <dipankar> Don't get me wrong, I am not sure of the link of s-p-s to GDM.
[18:53] <dipankar> lfaraone, the session bug still exists
[18:54] <dipankar> even after using the proper packages of s-p-s
[18:54] <dipankar> :)
[18:54] <lfaraone> dipankar: the session bug. I'm not familiar.
[18:56] <dipankar> lfaraone, kandarp and ankur are working with David on the session selection bug only right now
[18:56] <lfaraone> dipankar: that's been fixed...
[18:56] <lfaraone> dipankar: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/542345
[18:57] <dfarning> hey luke, can you log into channel #seeta
[19:05] <dfarning> hey dipankar looks like you have this pretty wrapped up... do you want to wait until monday to work on the mouse patch? or poke at it tomorrow:)
[19:06] <dipankar> anytime you feel like dfarning :)
[19:07] <dfarning> Ok,  ill be here this evening.... when you get up:)
[19:09] <dipankar> sure dfarning, just last thing: what is the mailing list address and what should be the subject?
[19:11] <dfarning> ubuntu-sugarteam@lists.ubuntu.com whatever you what is good for a subject.
[19:13] <dipankar> how about : Sugar Start-UP bug SOLVED??
[19:14] <dfarning> dipankar, sounds good:)
[19:14] <dipankar> dfarning, sent it.. you will be receiving it soon
[19:15] <dfarning> dipankar, thanks and good work again today:)
[19:17] <dipankar> Thanks dfarning, Glad that I am contributing to Open Source world. I always had a dream to do so. I am glad I chose to work with you guys
[19:19] <dfarning> dipankar, get it is rather satisfying:)
[19:19] <dipankar> :)
[19:19] <dipankar> good night dfarning
[19:20] <dipankar> see you in 8 hrs :( loong time.. :(
[19:20] <dfarning> good night