[00:11] <rbelem> ScottK, and how often get a new snapshot? when it brings nice new features or bug fixes?
[00:11] <ScottK> rbelem: Yes.  Use your judgement on this.
[00:21] <rbelem> cool
[00:22] <rbelem> thanks ScottK :-)
[00:22] <ScottK> No problem.
[00:23] <ScottK> NCommander: Could you rescore qt4-x11 to about 99999?  Riddell uploaded it a bit ago and until it gets built on the slow archs, KDE 4.4.90 is going to FTBFS when it's ready.  Please don't score it higher than the python2.6 build for ia64 though.
[00:25]  * shadeslayer faints seeing the build score
[00:25] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1142881 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/workerinstallprogress.cpp Silence two warnings only present in release mode
[00:57] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1142887 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (MainWindow.cpp StatusWidget.cpp) Don't show held packages in the upgrade count, and don't count them when seeing if we should enable the "upgrade" toolbar button. Also, switch-ify the questionOccurred() function. (Should have committed that earlier)
[00:58] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1142888 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/PackageModel/PackageProxyModel.cpp We don't need to invalidate the model here. It sorts just fine without calling it. Unnecessary sorting--
[01:01] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1142889 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MuonStrings.cpp Switch from the [] operator to .at(). If at() fails in our hash, it will return an empty QString by default, so we don't have to check before hand, and then construct a whole other empty QString if true.
[01:02] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1142890 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (5 files) Make a few more constructors explicit. Also, foreach const correctness
[01:08] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1142892 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (FilterWidget.cpp MuonStrings.cpp) Correct KUIT flags. Sorry for all the fuzzies again, guys :(
[01:08] <shadeslayer> :P
[01:19] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1142894 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/workerinstallprogress.cpp More QString const correctness fixes
[01:21] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1142895 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/globals.h Remove "Debconf" entry from the WorkerQuestion enum since our Debconf support doesn't use the WorkerQuestion API. (Warning Breaks ABI). Also add a non-fatal FetchFailedWarning enum member to the WarningCode enum
[01:24] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1142896 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/ (worker.cpp worker.h workeracquire.cpp workeracquire.h) Implement an API for emitting warnings from the worker, using the values of the WarningCode enum. When items fail to download in WorkerAcquire, emit a FetchFailedWarning.
[01:24]  * JontheEchidna really should have committed a lot of this earlier :s
[01:38] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1142900 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (MainWindow.cpp MainWindow.h) Implement warningOccurred function for LibQApt's new warning API
[01:38] <JontheEchidna> A file failing to download is no longer fatal \o/
[01:38] <JontheEchidna> (Though it may cause a fatal-to-the-operation error later if it is needed for a commit)
[01:45] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1142901 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/ (worker.cpp worker.h) Turns out you can forward signals more than 3 times. But not if you call your receiver signals slots. (And you couldn't figure that out until Qt 4.7 got sweet new runtime errors for signals/slots) ^.^
[01:45] <JontheEchidna> <3 Qt 4.7
[01:46] <JontheEchidna> Perhaps the non-buggiest minor release of Qt I've ever seen (Not too hard considering 4.5 and 4.6)
[01:49] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1142902 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/worker.cpp Last commit was premature. Finish the job of fixing signal forwarding. Sometimes you just get so giddy when you remove 50 lines of code and it compiles...
[02:04] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: despite its grey-screen hang on start, muon still gets to a usable interface faster than synaptic ^.^
[02:08] <JontheEchidna> mem. usage is comparable to both adept and synaptic
[02:09] <lex79> almost all qt/kde apps have grey-screen hang on start here
[02:11] <JontheEchidna> this lasts for around a second and a half on a warm start
[02:13] <lex79> ah, it's different then :)
[02:36] <ScottK> This is not good:
[02:37] <ScottK> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[02:37] <ScottK> libnotify1 libstartup-notification0 notification-daemon zenity
[02:38] <JontheEchidna> Ha. Muon has a better startup time than dolphin, though ^.^
[02:38] <lex79> uhm
[02:39] <ScottK> Let me know when you have a better startup time than Chromium.  Then I'll be really impressed.
[02:39] <ScottK> ;-)
[02:39] <lex79> :D
[02:41] <lex79> kubuntu-desktop Recommends im-switch
[02:41] <lex79> which depends on zenity
[02:41] <lex79> ScottK ^
[02:42] <lex79> libnotify1 is a dependency of vlc
[02:42] <ScottK> Need to see which seed thatt's coming from.
[02:43] <ScottK> No way can we ship Gnome notification system.
[02:43] <shadeslayer> lex79: you only noticed that now?
[02:43] <lex79> yes
[02:43] <shadeslayer> :P
[02:43] <shadeslayer> saw it 2 days back
[02:44] <lex79> shadeslayer: I uploaded plasma-scriptengine-googlegadgets
[02:44] <shadeslayer> oh ok
[02:44] <shadeslayer> :D
[02:44] <lex79> shadeslayer: I pushed to bzr your packages
[02:44] <shadeslayer> \o/
[02:44]  * shadeslayer huggles lex79 
[02:45] <lex79> :)
[02:45] <CIA-99> [messages] lranghetti * 1142907 * trunk/l10n-kde4/pt_BR/messages/ (5 files in 5 dirs) translated by Aracele Torres
[02:46] <lex79> who is?
[02:46] <lex79> :P
[02:49] <JontheEchidna> ^somebody translating muon
[02:49] <JontheEchidna> in to Brazillian Portugese
[02:50] <lex79> -.-
[02:54] <ScottK> libstartup-notification0 is Firefox and libnotify1 and notification-daemon are due to im-switch.
[02:58] <JontheEchidna> libnotify1 shouldn't recommend notification-daemon
[02:58] <ScottK> Riddell: We need to look into im-switch.  The latest update from Debian it now depends on zenity and other Gnomish stuff.
[02:59] <JontheEchidna> libnotify1 has no dependency on it nor suffers any from not having the daemon installed
[02:59] <ScottK> zenity is still an issue.
[03:01] <ScottK> libsexy2 too
[03:01] <ScottK> Although that's brought in by notification-daemon
[03:02] <ScottK> Which KDE binary has the KDE notification stuff in it?
[03:03] <ScottK> It looks like libnotify1 recommends all the other possibilities but that as an alternative.
[03:03] <JontheEchidna> kdebase-runtime
[03:03] <JontheEchidna> and it looks like notify-osd provides notification-daemon? :s
[03:03] <JontheEchidna> that packaging is screwed
[03:04] <lex79> ^.^
[03:05] <JontheEchidna> libnotify1 only recommends notification-daemon
[03:05] <JontheEchidna> and since notify-osd is seeded in ubuntu that satisfies it :s
[03:06] <ScottK> So if kdebase-runtime provided it too, that would be that.
[03:06] <JontheEchidna> yeah
[03:06] <ScottK> Technically, I believe it would be correct to have it do that now.
[03:07] <ScottK> I've got no keys to touch bzr or packages with me.  Would you please take care of it?
[03:07] <JontheEchidna> Sure
[03:07] <ScottK> Still need to get zenity off, but that's a start.
[03:09] <claydoh> is there going to be any pulseaudio integration for maverick? or any work along those lines? trying to clarify some things in a mailing list thread
[03:10] <CIA-99> [ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100626021010-ydajbojefthephix * debian/ (changelog control) Make kdebase-runtime provide notification-daemon since it implements the FD.o notification spec
[03:10] <JontheEchidna> claydoh: all done
[03:10] <JontheEchidna> integrated and seeded, by default as of alpha 2
[03:10] <JontheEchidna> Phonon, KMix, the works
[03:11] <claydoh> ok :) thanks
[03:13] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1142909 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/backend.cpp This isn't needed
[03:15] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: We need a Qt/KDE alternative to zenity anyway to make bulletproof X work again.
[03:16] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: like kdialog?
[03:19] <ScottK> Dunno.
[04:50] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1142921 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/backend.cpp We aren't using this struct anymore since we merged Xapian code with Synaptic.
[05:13] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1142922 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (cache.cpp cache.h) Const correctness for QApt::Cache
[05:17] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1142923 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp cache.h) Forward declaration cleanup
[08:16] <CIA-99> [messages] yurchor * 1142945 * trunk/l10n-kde4/uk/messages/ (6 files in 5 dirs) SVN_SILENT Ukrainian translation update
[09:51] <CIA-99> [summit] okushi * 1142989 * trunk/ (37 files in 19 dirs) SVN_SILENT: summit merge
[10:35] <Quintasan> brb, testing upgrade to 4.4.90
[10:38] <Quintasan> hmm no conflicts
[10:38] <Quintasan> :D
[10:52] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: :D
[11:00]  * shadeslayer is wondering if he should learn python as awell
[11:10] <Quintasan> no
[11:13] <tsimpson> learn ruby instead :)
[11:29] <shadeslayer> anyone see the mail in kubuntu-devel ML
[11:29] <shadeslayer> they have some pretty good suggestions :)
[11:30] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: ok :P
[11:58] <Quintasan|Szel> hmm
[11:59] <Quintasan|Szel> lex79, Riddell: no problems with 4.5 RC1 upgrade on Lucid
[11:59] <Quintasan|Szel> good job!
[12:00] <Quintasan|Szel> kubotu: cookies for lex79 
[12:00] <Quintasan|Szel> gah
[12:00] <Quintasan|Szel> kubotu: order cookies for lex79 
[12:00]  * kubotu slides a whole bunch of world's finest cookies down the bar to lex79.
[12:02] <Quintasan|Szel> apachelogger: google gadgets work too!
[12:03] <Quintasan|Szel> microbloggin patch works too
[12:03] <Quintasan|Szel> shadeslayer: thanks for doing that for me :P
[12:03] <shadeslayer> Quintasan|Szel: i didnt do it ;)
[12:03] <Quintasan|Szel> well, whoever did that, thanks
[12:03] <shadeslayer> Quintasan|Szel: a|wen took care of it
[12:03] <Quintasan|Szel> :P
[12:04] <Quintasan|Szel> hm
[12:04] <shadeslayer> i had a huge headache from Qt :P
[12:04] <Quintasan|Szel> kubotu: order cookies for a|wen 
[12:04]  * kubotu slides a whole bunch of world's finest cookies down the bar to a|wen.
[12:04] <Quintasan|Szel> me is going to get some pizza
[12:04] <Quintasan|Szel> bbl
[12:04]  * shadeslayer wonders if i get cookies
[12:04] <shadeslayer> Quintasan|Szel: bye :D
[12:09] <shadeslayer> Can someone upload KDE 4.4.90 to archives then>
[12:09] <shadeslayer> since Quintasan|Szel just confirmed that the upgrade went well
[12:09] <shadeslayer> oh wait.. thats for lucid ^_^
[12:10]  * ulysses wants to upgrade to KDE 4.4.90
[12:11] <shadeslayer> ulysses: patience ...
[12:11] <shadeslayer> ulysses: it wont be much different from 4.4.85 :P
[12:12] <ulysses> it contains some translations from me that musz be checked:P
[12:12] <shadeslayer> well.. new wallpapers too
[12:13] <ulysses> „Emotion” is my favourite this time
[12:16]  * a|wen happily munches the cookies
[12:16] <a|wen> Quintasan|Szel: my pleasure
[12:21] <shadeslayer> a|wen: btw what should i install for a base KDE install? kdebase,kdelibs and kdepimlibs right?
[12:22] <a|wen> shadeslayer: is it an environment for building stuff, or for running stuff?
[13:00] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1143078 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/package.cpp d->state is not necessarily going to be up-to-date. (The user could mark it for install for example.) For all cases where a To* state is checked, get the state again.
[13:26] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1143087 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp Reload action states if we wish to not continue when presented with unauthenticated packages
[13:26] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1143089 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp m_updateAction may be disabled when we call reloadActions. Re-enable it.
[13:34] <CIA-99> [muon] sitter * 1143091 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/muon.desktop Boot terminal setting from desktop file (defaults to false anyway), instead add proper Categories
[13:50] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1143092 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/package.cpp Don't count manually held packages as upgradeable.
[14:31] <CIA-99> [messages] zepires * 1143099 * trunk/l10n-kde4/pt/messages/ (6 files in 5 dirs) Finished HEAD for now
[14:51] <shadeslayer> a|wen: running stuff... anyways i sorta figured it out ;)
[14:51] <a|wen> shadeslayer: okay ... cool
[16:31] <claydoh> wow I was gonna resign my mailing list moderation job, until I just now noticed we have over 1300 subsrcibers! ;D
[16:31] <claydoh> it wan't that long ago we had 150
[16:32] <claydoh> its still a thankless job, though :)
[16:46] <jussi> claydoh: I hear you. do you use listadmin?
[16:47] <claydoh> no, its the users that get me down
[16:47] <jussi> btw, can someon etest something for me?
[16:48] <jussi> open chromium with some flah playing - ie youtube or some other streaming flash
[16:48] <jussi> then open another instnce, and open facebook. does the flash crash for you?
[16:57] <blueyed> jussi: which chromium?
[16:57] <blueyed> and which flash?
[16:58] <jussi> chromium-browser:
[16:58] <jussi>   Installed: 6.0.450.0~svn20100625r50809-0ubuntu1~ucd2~lucid
[16:58] <blueyed> does not crash for me with chromium daily and flash from lucid
[16:59] <jussi> flashplugin-installer:
[16:59] <jussi>   Installed: 10.1.53.64ubuntu0.10.04.1
[16:59] <jussi> blueyed: thats what Im using also
[16:59] <blueyed> I have flash 10.1.53.64ubuntu0.10.04.2 though
[16:59] <blueyed> no crash
[17:00] <jussi> curious - why dont I have that?
[17:00] <jussi> no, Ive just updated the browser, lets try again
[17:02] <blueyed> jussi: I have it via lucid-proposed
[17:02] <jussi> ahh
[17:03] <jussi> I dont think ive proposed enabled - IM not  _that_ crazy :P
[17:03] <blueyed> not as bad as using maverick.. ;)
[17:04] <jussi> yeah...
[17:04] <blueyed> should not make a difference, only a prerm fix in there.
[17:04] <blueyed> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging does not load?
[17:24] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: synaptic does not have you ;)
[17:24] <apachelogger> also synaptic is GTK+ware so it will not ever get a usable UI anyway :P
[17:33] <blueyed> wiki.kubuntu.org is still down for me.
[17:34] <blueyed> Is work being done on the rc1 packages already? Could not find anything in the beta ppa
[17:35] <ulysses> the whole ubuntu wiki is down?:'(
[17:40] <ScottK> blueyed: Work is being done, but it hasn't been published yet.
[17:40] <blueyed> ScottK: can I help out in some way?
[17:41] <ScottK> I'm not particularly working on it myself, so I'm not sure.  I bet lex79 knows.
[17:58] <ScottK> In the latest archive rebuild, 11 packages FTBFS with a "call of overloaded 'QString(int)' is ambiguous" error.  I'm going to guess either a Qt 4.7 bug or an incompatible API change.  In either case, I think it's worth looking at.  See http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~lucas/ubuntu-nbs/32/konq-plugins_4:4.4.0-0ubuntu5_lubuntu32.buildlog or http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~lucas/ubuntu-nbs/32/choqok_0.9.55a-0ubuntu2_lubuntu32.buildlog for details.
[18:05] <debfx> ScottK: these are QStrings initialized with 0, in qt 4.7 QString has a new constructor QString(const QChar * unicode) so the compiler doesn't know if it should use that one or QString(const char * str)
[18:06] <ScottK> debfx: So these packages need to be ported to the new API then.
[18:06] <debfx> I suspect most of these cases are fixed in upstream vcs
[18:06] <debfx> at least that's true for konq-plugins and choqok
[18:07] <ScottK> OK.  Cool.
[18:07]  * ScottK tosses http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~lucas/ubuntu-nbs/32/kubuntu-notification-helper_10.10ubuntu1_lubuntu32.buildlog at apachelogger then.
[18:08] <ScottK> debfx: Could you check out the others? http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi
[18:08] <debfx> ScottK: knh is also fixed in bzr
[18:08] <ScottK> Excellent.
[18:09] <ScottK> That one issue is 2% of the total rebuild failures in the archive.
[18:19] <debfx> JontheEchidna: is there something wrong with my kde-style-bespin fix? it's the only that hasn't been uploaded from the KDECMakeBuildDependTransition
[18:19] <JontheEchidna> debfx: must have not seen it
[18:22] <JontheEchidna> debfx: uploaded
[18:25] <blueyed> kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 has been removed for 4.5, or before already?
[18:27] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1143148 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/package.cpp r1143092 broke things, revert it
[18:27] <blueyed> See my commit in lp:~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-dev-tools/trunk (r86): "Depend on kdebase-runtime instead of kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 (KDE 4.5)" - I hope that's correct
[18:28] <lex79> it's correct
[18:30] <apachelogger> ScottK: hm?
[18:30]  * shadeslayer wonders if lex79 remembers about qt4-demos
[18:30] <lex79> yes
[18:30] <lex79> :)
[18:31] <shadeslayer> man..adjam hasnt been in #rekonq for the past 2 days.. im all stuck :P
[18:31] <shadeslayer> lex79: good :D
[18:31] <JontheEchidna> ScottK, apachelogger: I can take care of that ftbfs
[18:31] <JontheEchidna> (It's a class I wrote anyways) ;)
[18:32] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: I do not get no FTBFS at all withthe branch
[18:32] <ScottK> Great.
[18:32] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: the ctor argument should be const QString & while you are at it ;)
[18:32]  * shadeslayer tires to make head and toe of apachelogger's comments on Revu
[18:32] <ScottK> debfx: Let me know what needs sponsoring to fix the others.
[18:33] <apachelogger> Could not bind to LDAP server: Invalid credentials
[18:33] <apachelogger> kolab hates me -.-
[18:33] <apachelogger> \o/
[18:33] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: :P
[18:35] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw i installed arch :D
[18:35]  * shadeslayer runs in other direction
[18:35] <CIA-99> [kubuntu-notification-helper] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100626173509-omu8ost9laoe7ayz * src/daemon/installevent/ (installevent.cpp installevent.h) Take a const QString in the constructor
[18:38] <shadeslayer> oh man...
[18:38] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: poke
[18:38] <apachelogger> hum?
[18:38] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: do you have my package downloaded?
[18:38] <apachelogger> somewhere
[18:38] <shadeslayer> well... find it and open src/LGPLHEADER
[18:39]  * shadeslayer thinks upstream is evil ...
[18:39] <debfx> how do I fix the docbook 4.1 errors properly? is there a script to convert them to 4.2?
[18:39] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: yeah, whats with it?
[18:39] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: This file is part of Foobar.
[18:39] <shadeslayer> Foobar! :P
[18:40] <apachelogger> so? :P
[18:40] <apachelogger> the file does not contain anything but a license statement ... so ...
[18:40] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: isnt it supposed to read qipmsg?
[18:40] <shadeslayer> hmm...
[18:40] <apachelogger> the file is suppose to not be there
[18:40] <shadeslayer> yes...
[18:40] <shadeslayer> delete it?
[18:40] <apachelogger> no
[18:40] <shadeslayer> hmm
[18:41] <apachelogger> poke upstream to delete it in next release
[18:41] <apachelogger> s/in/for
[18:41] <shadeslayer> hmm .. ok :)
[18:41] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw  : * There are two files with different copyright holder and different license that are still not mentioned in debian/copyright : which two files?
[18:42]  * apachelogger points shadeslayer towards the deb-* scripts in http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/scripts/ to find such stuff more easily
[18:42] <CIA-99> [kubuntu-notification-helper] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100626174224-5qic8c2x4qsw05rm * (debian/changelog src/daemon/installevent/installevent.cpp) Merge with trunk
[18:42] <shadeslayer> didnt know :P
[18:43]  * shadeslayer bookmarks the link
[18:47] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1143151 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (MainWindow.cpp StatusWidget.cpp) So it turns out that apt considers anything that is not marked for a status change to be "held", so subtracting that from upgradeable packages will always end up as zero...
[18:48] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: what happened to project timelord?
[18:48]  * lex79 steals a patch from fedora, thanks fedora !
[19:02] <CIA-99> [docmessages] ecuadra * 1143152 * trunk/l10n-kde4/es/ (27 files in 10 dirs) SVN_SILENT Spanish translation update by Cristina Yenyxe Gonz?\195?\161lez Garc?\195?\173a & Kira J. Fern?\195?\161ndez. CC_MAIL: the.blue.valkyrie@gmail.com,kirajfdez@gmail.com
[19:02]  * JontheEchidna hands CIA QString::fromUtf8() :P
[19:04] <shadeslayer> lex79: if we could only steal the users as well ;)
[19:04] <lex79> :)
[19:05] <shadeslayer> im bored...
[19:05] <shadeslayer> kubotu:  dance
[19:05] <shadeslayer> :P
[19:11] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1143155 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (package.cpp package.h) Add a NotInstalled item to the PackageState enum, since APT considers anything that hasn't been changed to be kept, so we can't use that for detecting not-installedness
[19:12] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1143156 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp Ensure the back button gets turned back to the "preview changes" button if we error out from the ReviewWidget
[19:13] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1143157 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (FilterWidget.cpp MuonStrings.cpp) Make the "Not Installed" filter use the new QApt::Package::NotInstalled flag to determine package installedness
[19:13] <JontheEchidna> ~dance
[19:13] <JontheEchidna> hmm, must be only insanity that can shake it
[19:13] <JontheEchidna> (insanity == amarok irc bot)
[20:18] <lex79> uhm I updated the kcm root patch in -workspace but if I want change something in kdm kcm says this: http://imagebin.ca/view/MuYm7x.html
[20:18] <lex79> :(
[20:19] <lex79> same issue if I start systemsettings with sudo
[20:42] <a|wen> Riddell: will you be doing kde-l10n for kde 4.4.5 ?
[20:53] <a|wen> neversfelde: how is kdeartwork doing? ... all other packages is in the ppa now, a few of them still building, so look like we are ready to test soon :)
[20:54] <neversfelde> a|wen: doing the local testbuild at the moment
[20:54] <a|wen> cool!
[20:54] <neversfelde> should be uploaded within the next hour I think
[20:55] <a|wen> so we can starting to find some willing volunteers for testing ;)
[20:55] <shadeslayer> a|wen: kdeartwork for 4.4.5?
[20:55] <a|wen> shadeslayer: jup
[20:56] <shadeslayer> hmm
[20:56] <a|wen> shadeslayer: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging/4.4.5 :D
[20:56] <shadeslayer> a|wen: i know ;) was just confirming 
[20:56] <a|wen> heh
[20:57] <shadeslayer> lex79: poke
[20:57] <shadeslayer> lex79: can you check the kdeartwork for 4.5? i think a few wallpapers are missing
[20:57] <shadeslayer> either in the original sources or in the tarball i downloaded
[20:57] <lex79> ok
[20:59] <lex79> shadeslayer: you didn't add any wallpapers...http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdeartwork/ubuntu/revision/70
[20:59] <lex79> are there new wallpapers in this release?
[20:59] <shadeslayer> yes
[20:59] <shadeslayer> shouldnt they be installed in /usr/wallpapers ?
[20:59] <shadeslayer> from the wallpapers.install file?
[21:00] <lex79> usr/share/wallpapers
[21:00] <shadeslayer> yes
[21:00] <lex79> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdeartwork/ubuntu/annotate/head:/debian/kdewallpapers.install
[21:00] <shadeslayer> yeah 
[21:00] <lex79> no need to add the new wallpapers in that file since we have usr/share/wallpapers/
[21:01] <shadeslayer> i havent :)
[21:01] <shadeslayer> lex79: http://blog.uninstall.it/2010/06/24/kde-sc-4-5-wallpapers/
[21:01] <shadeslayer> lex79: im saying that when i downloaded and extracted the sources the last 2 wallpapers featured there were missing
[21:02] <lex79> ok I will check then
[21:02] <shadeslayer> thanks :D
[21:02] <shadeslayer> my bandwidth is sorta dedicated to arch atm :P
[21:13] <debfx> ScottK: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/plasma-widget-drop2ftp_0.6-0ubuntu5.debdiff
[21:13] <debfx> and http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/qdevelop_0.28-0ubuntu1.dsc
[21:14] <ScottK> debfx: I'm just headed out the door.  I should be back in ~ an hour.
[21:14] <debfx> could you sponsor both qt 4.7 fixes (and new qdevelop upstream version)?
[21:14] <debfx> okay
[21:21] <Riddell> a|wen: 4.4.5?!
[21:24] <a|wen> Riddell: sure ... we are almost done packaging in staging
[21:25] <Riddell> wow, upstream like to keep us busy
[21:25] <Riddell> good job
[21:25] <Riddell> yes I can do kde-l10n unless anyone else had better bandwidth
[21:26] <a|wen> jup ... 4.4.90 for lucid + maverick and 4.4.5 for lucid all at the same time
[21:26] <a|wen> Riddell: official release is not until tuesday; so hopefully your bandwidth will suffice for that
[21:27] <Riddell> it will, although it's mostly magic, my phone line actually got cut off a month ago
[21:27] <shadeslayer> Riddell: lex79 has tested the upgrades for 4.4.90,im just waiting for confirmation that kdeartwork is good to go :)
[21:27] <Riddell> time for me to upgrade to 4.4.90 too then 
[21:28] <shadeslayer> some of the wallpapers were missing in the untarred sources.... 
[21:28] <Riddell> in kdeartwork?  probably just means the artists have been changing things around
[21:29] <shadeslayer> Riddell: no i mean 2 whole wallpapers were missing,whereas they were supposed to be released with 4.4.90
[21:29] <shadeslayer> http://blog.uninstall.it/2010/06/24/kde-sc-4-5-wallpapers/
[21:29] <shadeslayer> the last two in the matrix
[21:30] <shadeslayer> hm... any idea as to how to open a project with kdevelop ? i have the git checkout
[21:31] <shadeslayer> hmm.. wait.. i think i found it
[21:34] <neversfelde> a|wen: uploaded and currently building
[21:35] <a|wen> neversfelde: nice
[21:35]  * a|wen updates his sources.list and gets ready to upgrade
[21:36] <neversfelde> maverick here, so I cannot test atm
[21:37] <a|wen> I've stayed on lucid, and plan to stay here until 4.4.5 is in updates (if we can manage that?) ... might need some ironing
[21:38] <lex79> shadeslayer: kdeartwork looks good
[21:38] <shadeslayer> lex79: ok so the last 2 wallpapers are there?
[21:38] <lex79> they are not ready, they will be in the next release
[21:40] <shadeslayer> ok cool :)
[21:41] <shadeslayer> just thought i might have corrupt sources :P
[21:41] <lex79> nope ;)
[21:44] <shadeslayer> phew.. :P
[21:44] <a|wen> debfx: plasma-widget-drop2ftp sponsored. Thanks for your contribution to Kubuntu!
[21:44] <a|wen> ScottK: FYI ^^
[21:57] <a|wen> 4.4.5 ready for testing :D
[22:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can you modify http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntututorialdays according to https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay
[22:08] <shadeslayer> i made some changes which arent reflected 
[22:08] <shadeslayer> omg.. i get 1 hour... last packaging session i gave was of 2 hours :P
[22:08] <a|wen> smooth upgrade to 4.4.5 ... i'm back in a little while if everything has gone well ;)
[22:09] <shadeslayer> a|wen: :D
[22:12] <apachelogger> kubotu: order party
[22:12]  * kubotu gives everyone a party hat and a hand full of conffeti.
[22:12]  * kubotu turns on tha most funky party music as well as the all shiny disco ball.
[22:12] <kubotu> apachelogger: wanna dance with me? :-)
[22:12]  * kubotu starts shaking her tight ass
[22:12] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna, shadeslayer ^
[22:12] <shadeslayer> :o
[22:13] <ulysses> :D
[22:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: w00t :P
[22:13]  * apachelogger goes to bed and points out that he is feeling way too tired and sleeping way too much these days :/
[22:13] <apachelogger> well, nighties everyone o/
[22:14] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: bye
[22:14] <shadeslayer> heh.. im learning Qt through wikipedia + Kdevelop + rekonq code
[22:14] <shadeslayer> + Qt docs
[22:25] <ScottK> debfx: qdevelop diff looks good.  Test building now and I'll upload it after it finishes.
[22:27] <shadeslayer> a|wen: \o
[22:27] <a|wen> hi again shadeslayer
[22:27] <shadeslayer> hows the upgrade?
[22:27] <a|wen> upgrade to 4.4.5 went all smooth
[22:27] <shadeslayer> :)
[22:31] <Riddell> upgrade to 4.4.90 all good on maverick here
[22:31] <a|wen> cool :)
[22:32] <a|wen> now we just need some news to get the bits released
[22:33] <Riddell> some news?
[22:33] <a|wen> for kubuntu.org
[22:33] <Riddell> has it been uploaded?
[22:34] <a|wen> Riddell: 4.4.5 is a ppa release, so that one does not need uploading ... i don't think 4.4.90 is uploaded, no
[22:35] <Riddell> 4.4.5 isn't out yet by upstream, can't announce it
[22:35] <Riddell> and needs copying to updates ppa anyway
[22:35] <a|wen> sure
[22:35] <Riddell> I think I'm too tired to upload 4.4.90 tonight I'm afraid 
[22:35] <Riddell> needs to be tomorrow
[22:36] <shadeslayer> :)
[22:36] <a|wen> Riddell: have you heard about any regressions in 4.4.4 (compared to 4.4.2) that we need to check if they have been fixed in 4.4.5?
[22:37] <ScottK> a|wen: Thanks (got your ping).
[22:37] <ScottK> Riddell: buildd's are pretty jammed anyway, so I think waiting would be prudent.
[22:38] <a|wen> ScottK: np ... qdevelop is all yours though
[22:38] <ScottK> a|wen: No problem.  It's building now.
[22:39] <ScottK> Actually it's not.  It's done.
[22:39] <a|wen> heh :)
[22:40] <ScottK> debfx: qdevelop uploaded.  Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu.  You might want to consider getting that one in Debian if you are interested.
[22:41] <a|wen> do we have a plan for putting 4.4.5 in -updates through -proposed at some point?
[22:41] <ScottK> We've talked about it.
[22:41]  * ScottK looks at Riddell.
[22:41] <ScottK> My thought would be upload it to -proposed and see if it gets rejected.
[22:42] <ScottK> But I'm pretty far in the "It's better to ask for forgiveness than permission" camp.
[22:43] <a|wen> sounds reasonable ... my experience with the 4.4.x point releases until now is, that they have contained good fixes, and no regressions
[22:44] <a|wen> (i'm still trying to find just a single little regression ... but have miserably failed until now :) )
[22:47]  * valorie still doesn't have a working plasma desktop
[22:47] <valorie> that's in Lucid, 4.4.85 (KDE 4.4.85 (KDE 4.5 Beta2))
[22:47] <valorie> widgets won't appear
[22:48] <valorie> desktop settings disappear (aren't saved)
[22:52] <ScottK> Odd.  Working here.  Try creating a new user and see if it works there.
[22:53] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1143205 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp We get a new download and commit widget each time we use one (efficient memory management ftw!) so we don't need to clear them before we start
[22:58] <valorie> ScottK: I hadn't thought of trying that
[22:58] <valorie> will do
[23:22] <a|wen> nn everyone
[23:23] <a|wen> do go test 4.4.5 if you have the chance
[23:42] <debfx> ScottK: I'm not really interested in qdevelop (happy qt creator user atm)
[23:42] <ScottK> debfx: OK.  Just checking.
[23:49] <lex79> ScottK: I think this change says the python module have to go in site-packages/
[23:49] <lex79> http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/cmake/modules/FindPythonLibrary.cmake?r1=1141934&r2=1141933&pathrev=1141934
[23:50] <lex79> seems wrong...
[23:50] <lex79> line 63
[23:52] <ScottK> I agree.
[23:52] <lex79> and then this change: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/generic/scriptengines/python/CMakeLists.txt?r1=1141934&r2=1141933&pathrev=1141934
[23:53] <lex79> in -workspace, says plasmascript.py should go in the wrong place
[23:55] <ScottK> I guess we need to set PYTHON_SITE_PACKAGES_INSTALL_DIR 
[23:58] <ScottK> lex79: /usr/share/python/python.mk will have some useful macros for determining the correct locations.
[23:58] <lex79> ok thanks
[23:58] <ScottK> lex79: Also pyversions -h might be helpful.