| zkriesse | hello nisshh | 02:22 |
|---|---|---|
| nisshh | zkriesse: hey | 02:23 |
| zkriesse | nisshh: and how are you this fine day/afternoon/evening | 02:24 |
| nisshh | zkriesse: really good actually, im planning on playing some urban terror then im going out and then ill be writing some code | 02:24 |
| nisshh | zkriesse: how about you? | 02:25 |
| zkriesse | eh editing some manual stuff, trying to move my knee as little as possible | 02:25 |
| zkriesse | I'm Zach btw...new 'round the manual team | 02:25 |
| nisshh | zkriesse: right, didnt think id seen you in here before | 02:26 |
| zkriesse | just popped in the other night | 02:26 |
| nisshh | zkriesse: im Ryan, iv been working on the manual since the start | 02:26 |
| zkriesse | Well nice to meet ya's | 02:26 |
| nisshh | you too | 02:26 |
| nisshh | :) | 02:26 |
| zkriesse | Fortunately I know a few of ya's on the project | 02:27 |
| zkriesse | cjohnston: for one | 02:27 |
| nisshh | yea | 02:28 |
| zkriesse | and pleia2 | 02:28 |
| zkriesse | I work with her on the Learning/Classroom stuff | 02:28 |
| nisshh | oh cool | 02:29 |
| zkriesse | I think so anyway | 02:29 |
| nisshh | its like 3 teams in one now, huh? | 02:29 |
| zkriesse | Least she asked me to do a User Day course so.... | 02:29 |
| nisshh | meh | 02:29 |
| zkriesse | Sad part is I had the outline for my "speech" all written up, switched back to my 'buntu after a windows period and forgot to save the darn file | 02:30 |
| zkriesse | so now i gotta start over | 02:30 |
| nisshh | zkriesse: oh, that happens i guess, i dont even use windows anymore | 02:31 |
| nisshh | never needed it | 02:31 |
| zkriesse | I was for a while | 02:31 |
| nisshh | zkriesse: yea, doing stuff like that was what taught me the importance of backups | 02:32 |
| zkriesse | he | 02:32 |
| zkriesse | vish: ya round? | 02:40 |
| zkriesse | nisshh: how bout u | 02:41 |
| nisshh | zkriesse: whats that? | 02:46 |
| nisshh | sorry i was busy | 02:46 |
| zkriesse | nisshh: ok fixing a manual bug | 02:47 |
| zkriesse | I'm using Bazaar Explorer | 02:47 |
| zkriesse | To commit the bug fix what do i put in the "Bug" field | 02:47 |
| nisshh | zkriesse: oh, i have no idea, iv never used BE | 02:48 |
| zkriesse | ok what about the terminal | 02:48 |
| nisshh | zkriesse: oh thats easy | 02:48 |
| zkriesse | I'm typing in bzr commit but now i don't know what to type | 02:48 |
| nisshh | zkriesse: bzr commit -m "Fixed bug LP:<bug number from launchpad goes here> | 02:49 |
| nisshh | zkriesse: bzr commit -m "Fixed bug LP:<bug number from launchpad goes here>" | 02:49 |
| zkriesse | ok | 02:49 |
| brandonj | also you can add the --fixes option | 02:49 |
| zkriesse | lemme try that | 02:49 |
| nisshh | brandonj: good point | 02:49 |
| brandonj | bzr commit --fixes=lp:<bug #> -m "Fixed bug lp:<bug #>" | 02:49 |
| nisshh | yea thats it | 02:50 |
| zkriesse | bzr commit --fixes=lp:<bug #596853> -m "Fixed bug lp:<bug "596853>" that look right? | 02:51 |
| brandonj | no no | 02:51 |
| brandonj | haha | 02:51 |
| brandonj | no <'s or >'s | 02:51 |
| zkriesse | ok | 02:52 |
| brandonj | and don't put | 02:52 |
| brandonj | bug #596853 | 02:52 |
| brandonj | just do | 02:52 |
| brandonj | bzr commit --fixes=lp:596853 -m "Fixed bug lp:596853" | 02:52 |
| brandonj | sorry for the confusion | 02:52 |
| zkriesse | Ok i did that...now how will i know it's fixed? | 02:55 |
| brandonj | did you push it? | 02:55 |
| zkriesse | yes | 02:55 |
| brandonj | it should show up here: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual/lucid-e2 | 02:56 |
| brandonj | are you sure you did `bzr push`? | 02:56 |
| zkriesse | I think so | 02:57 |
| brandonj | ok | 02:57 |
| zkriesse | wait.... | 02:57 |
| zkriesse | nope i did the commit part | 02:57 |
| brandonj | right | 02:57 |
| zkriesse | now i need to do bzr push | 02:57 |
| brandonj | so after you commit you need to push | 02:57 |
| zkriesse | Using saved push location: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual/lucid-e2/ | 02:58 |
| zkriesse | bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual/lucid-e2/.bzr/branch/lock): Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir() | 02:58 |
| zkriesse | wait | 02:58 |
| brandonj | um | 02:58 |
| zkriesse | fixed it | 02:58 |
| zkriesse | i think | 02:58 |
| brandonj | what was the issue? | 02:58 |
| brandonj | it seems to be working, the page says 'updating branch' now | 02:59 |
| zkriesse | 6. Finally, run: | 02:59 |
| zkriesse | bzr push | 02:59 |
| zkriesse | If you've never pushed code to this branch before, bzr will | 02:59 |
| zkriesse | complain. You can run: | 02:59 |
| zkriesse | bzr push lp:ubuntu-manual/lucid-e2 | 02:59 |
| zkriesse | to satisfy it. From that point on, bzr will remember the location | 02:59 |
| zkriesse | and you should be able to simply run 'bzr push'. | 02:59 |
| zkriesse | that bzr manual on lists.lp | 02:59 |
| zkriesse | godbyk: sent that to me | 02:59 |
| brandonj | right | 02:59 |
| brandonj | ok | 02:59 |
| brandonj | you've got revisions 115 & 116 | 03:00 |
| brandonj | oh I see. You did a commit earlier today, but didn't push it afterwords | 03:00 |
| zkriesse | yeah | 03:00 |
| zkriesse | I thought i did | 03:00 |
| zkriesse | still learning | 03:00 |
| brandonj | no big deal | 03:00 |
| zkriesse | so now i can change the bug status of the one i fixed | 03:01 |
| zkriesse | right? | 03:01 |
| brandonj | to "fix commited" | 03:01 |
| brandonj | not "fix released" | 03:01 |
| zkriesse | ok | 03:02 |
| zkriesse | i guess i'll just skip using that Bazaar explorer and just use the terminal | 03:03 |
| zkriesse | Terminal is better anyway is it not | 03:03 |
| brandonj | I haven't used a gui for it, so I can't really say | 03:04 |
| zkriesse | ah | 03:04 |
| brandonj | but the cli gets the job done | 03:04 |
| zkriesse | well i need to take a shower..when i come back i'll have some more questions if that's ok? | 03:04 |
| brandonj | sure | 03:04 |
| zkriesse | cool | 03:04 |
| zkriesse | thanks dude | 03:05 |
| brandonj | no problem | 03:06 |
| zkriesse | brandonj: ping | 04:25 |
| brandonj | hi | 04:27 |
| brandonj | zkriesse: pong | 04:27 |
| zkriesse | brandonj: when i try to unlock my ubuntu-manual to update i get "The lock for '/home/zach/Projects/ubuntu-manual' is in use and cannot be broken" | 04:28 |
| zkriesse | Any idea on how to fix that? | 04:28 |
| brandonj | I've never encountered that problem | 04:29 |
| zkriesse | hmm | 04:29 |
| brandonj | maybe it has something to do with the gui you're using? | 04:29 |
| zkriesse | eh not using it now | 04:30 |
| zkriesse | using terminal | 04:30 |
| brandonj | what command did you use that produced that error? | 04:30 |
| zkriesse | wasn't a terminal command at first | 04:31 |
| zkriesse | in the ubuntu-manual folder i choose to update and it caved | 04:31 |
| zkriesse | but i think that update button is there cause of the GUi | 04:31 |
| zkriesse | so i think i'm gonna uninstall that | 04:31 |
| brandonj | 'bzr pull'? | 04:31 |
| zkriesse | bzr pull produces no issues | 04:35 |
| zkriesse | i think it's the GUI causing issues | 04:35 |
| brandonj | ok | 04:35 |
| zkriesse | I'll just use the terminal | 04:36 |
| brandonj | I once tried a similar gui for svn and it just caused me problems | 04:36 |
| zkriesse | Any commands that you can give me? | 04:36 |
| brandonj | well basically the only commands you really need are pull, commit, and push | 04:36 |
| zkriesse | ok | 04:36 |
| zkriesse | pull does what | 04:36 |
| brandonj | you can always type 'man bzr' to read the man page | 04:36 |
| brandonj | bzr pull downloads newer revisions from launchpad | 04:37 |
| zkriesse | how do i edit pages and such via the terminal? | 04:37 |
| brandonj | you don't have to do that in the terminal if you don't want to | 04:37 |
| zkriesse | Ok | 04:38 |
| zkriesse | Well how do i edit a page | 04:38 |
| brandonj | just open them in gedit or whatever | 04:38 |
| zkriesse | ok | 04:38 |
| zkriesse | Are the pages in the different folders in /Projects/ubuntu-manual? | 04:38 |
| brandonj | every chapter has a folder | 04:39 |
| zkriesse | ok | 04:39 |
| brandonj | so you can see there are folders for "installation" "commandline" "around-desktop" etc | 04:39 |
| brandonj | each of those corresponds to a chapter | 04:39 |
| zkriesse | ok | 04:39 |
| brandonj | each folder has one or more .tex files that contain the actual text | 04:40 |
| zkriesse | yup | 04:40 |
| brandonj | you're familiar with latex? | 04:40 |
| zkriesse | ah no | 04:40 |
| brandonj | so if you open up one of the tex files you'll see they're all writen in latex | 04:41 |
| zkriesse | Ah | 04:41 |
| zkriesse | that's the format | 04:41 |
| brandonj | right | 04:41 |
| zkriesse | I wondered about that | 04:41 |
| brandonj | latex is what generates nice pdfs | 04:41 |
| brandonj | so there is a style guide somewhere that will give you a quick intro to what you need to know about that | 04:41 |
| brandonj | let me find it | 04:41 |
| * zkriesse waits | 04:42 | |
| brandonj | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual/StyleGuide | 04:42 |
| brandonj | so theres some basic latex stuff there | 04:43 |
| zkriesse | ok | 04:43 |
| brandonj | oh ignore that style guide | 04:44 |
| brandonj | this is the better one | 04:44 |
| brandonj | http://files.ubuntu-manual.org/style-guide.pdf | 04:44 |
| zkriesse | yup got that already | 04:45 |
| brandonj | so theres basic latex stuff in there | 04:45 |
| zkriesse | ok cool | 04:45 |
| brandonj | you should be able to build the manual by typing 'make ubuntu-manual-en_US.pdf' | 04:46 |
| brandonj | its usually a good idea to test that it still works after you make changes | 04:46 |
| zkriesse | I keep seeing alot of LaTeX Marginpar error on page "" | 04:47 |
| zkriesse | is that bad? | 04:47 |
| brandonj | there will be lots of warnings | 04:47 |
| zkriesse | ok | 04:47 |
| brandonj | did you install the latest version of latex like is says on the website? | 04:47 |
| zkriesse | you mean the one to compile from source? yes | 04:49 |
| brandonj | ok. did your pdf build correctly? | 04:50 |
| zkriesse | meaning? | 04:50 |
| brandonj | did it say "Success! Wrote 165 pages"? | 04:50 |
| zkriesse | oh yeah | 04:51 |
| brandonj | ok, good | 04:51 |
| zkriesse | :D | 04:51 |
| zkriesse | sorry for being such a noob at this | 04:51 |
| brandonj | not a problem | 04:51 |
| zkriesse | All I really edit is wiki stuff | 04:51 |
| brandonj | oh look at that | 04:53 |
| brandonj | there is a readme.txt file that has some useful info in there | 04:53 |
| zkriesse | ok | 04:53 |
| zkriesse | pardon me for just a few, i've got to go ask my team if theyve been doing anything for the SoD project lately | 04:54 |
| zkriesse | back | 04:59 |
| brandonj | ok | 05:01 |
| zkriesse | was going to change that Mac OS X issue | 05:02 |
| zkriesse | I think it should be caps | 05:02 |
| brandonj | hm i dont know much about that | 05:03 |
| zkriesse | Eh | 05:03 |
| zkriesse | I think godbyk is working on it anyway | 05:03 |
| zkriesse | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+bug/556425 | 05:18 |
| zkriesse | what do you think about that one | 05:18 |
| brandonj | if you'd like to start working on it go ahead | 05:19 |
| brandonj | I think the idea for the maverick release is to be more noob friendly | 05:20 |
| zkriesse | ah | 05:20 |
| zkriesse | which is good | 05:20 |
| brandonj | ilya haykinson is the author coordinator, so you might give him a heads-up too | 05:20 |
| zkriesse | any way that you know of that i can contact by? | 05:21 |
| brandonj | on here | 05:21 |
| brandonj | or email | 05:21 |
| brandonj | https://launchpad.net/~haykinson | 05:22 |
| zkriesse | thanks | 05:22 |
| brandonj | np | 05:22 |
| JamesMR | http://omgubuntu.co.uk/ | 05:53 |
| JamesMR | post on the book stats | 05:53 |
| brandonj | awesome | 05:54 |
| JamesMR | by humphreybc | 05:54 |
| humphreybc | :) | 05:54 |
| humphreybc | Original stats gathered and summarized by godbyk :) | 05:54 |
| JamesMR | OmgBot announces when new posts are made on the OMG! | 05:55 |
| humphreybc | heh | 05:55 |
| brandonj | it would be silly of him not to | 05:55 |
| humphreybc | possibly the most useful thing OmgBot does, apart from the ability to give people a beer | 05:55 |
| JamesMR | haha | 05:56 |
| brandonj | if only they were real | 05:56 |
| JamesMR | there is another one that he does which I forget | 05:56 |
| JamesMR | I should know, I wrote it | 05:56 |
| humphreybc | lol | 05:56 |
| JamesMR | !digest | 05:58 |
| JamesMR | that's the one | 05:58 |
| abhi_nav | is kevin godby here? | 06:50 |
| abhi_nav | hello | 06:55 |
| nisshh | ooh: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/pytask-task-manager-is-simple.html thats my app | 08:08 |
| nisshh | :) | 08:08 |
| nisshh | humphreybc: that was a touching comment on omgubuntu, thanks for that! | 08:20 |
| c7p | Hello, do anyone have the pictures of the upcoming personas stuff that humphreybc showed us a month ago ? | 11:05 |
| nisshh | c7p: personas? | 11:24 |
| nisshh | c7p: i have no idea what you mean | 11:24 |
| nisshh | someone else might know | 11:25 |
| c7p | nisshh: I'm not sure if that's the word (i.e persona) that he mentioned, "personas" (or whatever he called it) are some quickstart guides for different imaginary characters e.g Student, Entrepreneur, teenager etc | 11:28 |
| c7p | nevermind :) | 11:31 |
| c7p | cu later | 11:32 |
| dutchie | http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2010/06/26/s03e10-the-fresh-air-cure/ # featuring our very own humphreybc | 12:40 |
| thorwil | dutchie: does he say anything new or outrageous in there? :) | 12:47 |
| dutchie | not really | 12:53 |
| === ZachK_ is now known as zkriesse | ||
| humphreybc | godbyk: ping | 15:13 |
| dutchie | humphreybc: he's probably still on the train | 15:22 |
| dutchie | why am i in a permanent state of having no battery? :( | 15:23 |
| humphreybc | awh | 15:23 |
| humphreybc | where's godbyk off to/ | 15:23 |
| dutchie | wonder what i should do about the buttons for my dad's new 10.40 install | 15:23 |
| dutchie | humphreybc: TeX conference in SF | 15:24 |
| humphreybc | ahh, yes, he's super excited about that | 15:26 |
| humphreybc | read the comment about the german translation: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/some-fun-stats-from-ubuntu-manual.html | 15:26 |
| humphreybc | We need to get translated editions out ASAP | 15:26 |
| godbyk-android | I have AC power on the train, but no Internet. | 17:34 |
| godbyk-android | Sitting at the Denver station right now. | 17:35 |
| ubuntujenkins | hey godbyk-android | 17:38 |
| godbyk-android | Hey, ubuntujenkins. | 17:38 |
| dutchie | 15:13:56 < humphreybc> godbyk: ping | 17:39 |
| dutchie | dunno what he wanted | 17:39 |
| dutchie | i suspect: | 17:39 |
| dutchie | 15:26:42 < humphreybc> We need to get translated editions out ASAP | 17:40 |
| godbyk-android | I don't think my net connection (via my phone) will last for too long once we leave Denver. | 17:40 |
| godbyk-android | Ah, so nothing new. :-) | 17:40 |
| dutchie | X appears to have heplfully crashed 79% through the install of 10.04 onto my dad's computer | 17:40 |
| godbyk-android | I might try to work on some of the latex coding things for the translations while I'm on the train. We'll see how it goes. | 17:41 |
| dutchie | someone was complaining about RTL support in an OMG Ubuntu comment | 17:43 |
| dutchie | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/some-fun-stats-from-ubuntu-manual.html | 17:43 |
| godbyk-android | Yeah, I haven't designed the rtl version of the manual yet. | 17:44 |
| godbyk-android | It's a lower priority given the state I'd those translations, I think. | 17:45 |
| ubuntujenkins | godbyk-android: I worked out that we are using differnet drivers to build some parts of the manual. One of them being that h* word | 17:45 |
| godbyk-android | hyperref? | 17:46 |
| zkriesse | hey gents | 19:35 |
| ubuntujenkins | hello zkriesse | 19:38 |
| zkriesse | ah hi ubuntujenkins | 19:38 |
| ubuntujenkins | quite in here | 19:40 |
| zkriesse | yeah | 19:42 |
| ubuntujenkins | dutchie: is there a meeting tonight? | 19:43 |
| zkriesse | ubuntujenkins: there was a meeting the other day | 19:43 |
| zkriesse | don't know if that's the one you're thinking of | 19:43 |
| zkriesse | Wait...sorry | 19:43 |
| zkriesse | I'm thinking of the docs meeting | 19:43 |
| ubuntujenkins | no worries | 19:43 |
| ubuntujenkins | pleia2: are we having the docs/manual/learning meeting soon? | 19:45 |
| zkriesse | ah vish ya round? | 19:59 |
| zkriesse | godbyk: how bout u | 19:59 |
| ubuntujenkins | zkriesse: godbyk is on a train as far as i know | 19:59 |
| zkriesse | ah | 19:59 |
| zkriesse | ok | 19:59 |
| zkriesse | ubuntujenkins: Well I'm Zach..just started out wit you guys | 19:59 |
| dutchie | ubuntujenkins: no idea | 20:00 |
| ubuntujenkins | hello Zach Kriesse right? | 20:00 |
| zkriesse | yes | 20:00 |
| ubuntujenkins | what would you like help with? | 20:00 |
| ubuntujenkins | if anything :) | 20:00 |
| zkriesse | Well the https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+bug/556425 | 20:00 |
| zkriesse | I'm trying to figure out how much info do we want on the actual kernel itself | 20:00 |
| zkriesse | too much can overwhelm the person(s) reading it...and from what godbyk told me it's going to start getting aimed at the much newer noob user | 20:01 |
| ubuntujenkins | well personally i would say very little the manual is for people who are moving over from windows /getting started.( what godbyk said) | 20:02 |
| zkriesse | Exactly | 20:02 |
| ubuntujenkins | something like... | 20:02 |
| zkriesse | and describing a kernel is going to be like, an overload of huge proportions | 20:02 |
| ubuntujenkins | yea | 20:03 |
| brandonj | come up with simple analogy & stick with that | 20:03 |
| zkriesse | ah hey brandonj | 20:03 |
| brandonj | hi | 20:03 |
| ubuntujenkins | hello brandonj | 20:03 |
| zkriesse | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel | 20:04 |
| zkriesse | I found that....think you could pull the good info and i'll paste it in there? | 20:04 |
| zkriesse | I'm not too familiar with the kernel myself | 20:04 |
| zkriesse | I know WHAT it is but not a whole lot | 20:04 |
| brandonj | the reader doesn't need to know a whole lot, or even a little lot | 20:05 |
| ubuntujenkins | hmm best to write it yourself. i think about three lines is all we need if anything | 20:05 |
| zkriesse | Ok | 20:05 |
| thorwil | do our readers need to know anything about the kernel, actually? | 20:05 |
| ubuntujenkins | thats what i am thinking | 20:05 |
| zkriesse | Let me think of what I'd write then I'll paste it here for review before i commit it | 20:05 |
| ubuntujenkins | they just need ubuntu to work | 20:05 |
| zkriesse | True | 20:06 |
| ubuntujenkins | 8thinking/leaning towards | 20:06 |
| brandonj | I think they should be aware of its presence, so if somebody else mentions it they aren't completely confused | 20:06 |
| zkriesse | Using Ubuntu itself is going to be a lot itself so a little will still be quite a bit | 20:06 |
| ubuntujenkins | zkriesse: we write in us english which has confused me as i am in the uk | 20:07 |
| ubuntujenkins | just in case no one had said :) | 20:07 |
| zkriesse | ubuntujenkins: ah | 20:07 |
| ubuntujenkins | I can't write anything that makes sense | 20:09 |
| zkriesse | lol | 20:10 |
| ubuntujenkins | all my stuff would just confuse people more than not telling them about it | 20:11 |
| brandonj | is UK english more confusing than US english? | 20:12 |
| ubuntujenkins | they are very similar but some spelling is different, which is harder to rember | 20:13 |
| ubuntujenkins | *remember if you forget spelling easily like me. | 20:13 |
| brandonj | yeah but that wouldn't confuse and reasonable person | 20:13 |
| brandonj | any* | 20:13 |
| ubuntujenkins | of course not but we try and make it all the same and then we translate to english uk | 20:14 |
| brandonj | right | 20:14 |
| ubuntujenkins | ChrisWoollard: how is the english uk manual going? | 20:15 |
| brandonj | builds.u-m.org says 100% | 20:15 |
| ubuntujenkins | yea but then there is lots of extra tweaks and adjustments to get the layout spot on | 20:16 |
| brandonj | oh | 20:16 |
| ubuntujenkins | we like it looking smart and neat | 20:16 |
| zkriesse | hehe | 20:17 |
| ubuntujenkins | like margin note in the correct place they can some times be slightly out of place. also we don't want them over two pages also there is a whole list of other things | 20:17 |
| ubuntujenkins | http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/translationtodo | 20:18 |
| ubuntujenkins | thats the list of stuff | 20:19 |
| ubuntujenkins | plus check fonts, and i have to sort the index rules if it is not supported by xindy | 20:19 |
| pleia2 | ubuntujenkins: let me touch base with doctormo and get back to you re: meeting... hopefully I'll plan it on a day which isn't a holiday this time :) | 20:49 |
| zkriesse | hey pleia2 | 20:49 |
| pleia2 | ubuntujenkins: sounds like none of the teams have settled on document format, I've been working with docbook some though | 20:50 |
| pleia2 | doh | 20:53 |
| pleia2 | morning zkriesse | 20:53 |
| zkriesse | :D | 20:53 |
| zkriesse | brandonj: hey | 21:43 |
| zkriesse | question | 21:43 |
| zkriesse | trying to convert a .tex file to .pdf | 21:43 |
| zkriesse | my own file of course | 21:43 |
| brandonj | hi | 21:45 |
| brandonj | um | 21:45 |
| brandonj | read 'man pdflatex' | 21:45 |
| dutchie | zkriesse: does "pdflatex <file>.tex" not work? | 21:45 |
| zkriesse | dutchie: no | 21:45 |
| zkriesse | it says it can't find the file | 21:46 |
| zkriesse | I cd'd to my desktop where the file is | 21:46 |
| zkriesse | wait hold on | 21:46 |
| zkriesse | one sec | 21:46 |
| ubuntujenkins | hello again all | 21:47 |
| zkriesse | This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (TeX Live 2009) | 21:47 |
| zkriesse | entering extended mode | 21:47 |
| zkriesse | (./WikiGuidelines.tex | 21:47 |
| zkriesse | LaTeX2e <2009/09/24> | 21:47 |
| zkriesse | Babel <v3.8l> and hyphenation patterns for english, usenglishmax, dumylang, noh | 21:47 |
| zkriesse | yphenation, german-x-2009-06-19, ngerman-x-2009-06-19, ancientgreek, ibycus, ar | 21:47 |
| zkriesse | abic, basque, bulgarian, catalan, pinyin, coptic, croatian, czech, danish, dutc | 21:47 |
| zkriesse | h, esperanto, estonian, farsi, finnish, french, galician, german, ngerman, mono | 21:47 |
| zkriesse | greek, greek, hungarian, icelandic, assamese, bengali, gujarati, hindi, kannada | 21:47 |
| zkriesse | , malayalam, marathi, oriya, panjabi, tamil, telugu, indonesian, interlingua, i | 21:48 |
| zkriesse | rish, italian, kurmanji, latin, latvian, lithuanian, mongolian, mongolianlmc, b | 21:48 |
| zkriesse | okmal, nynorsk, polish, portuguese, romanian, russian, sanskrit, serbian, slova | 21:48 |
| zkriesse | k, slovenian, spanish, swedish, turkish, turkmen, ukenglish, ukrainian, upperso | 21:48 |
| zkriesse | rbian, welsh, loaded. | 21:48 |
| zkriesse | ! Undefined control sequence. | 21:48 |
| zkriesse | l.3 \chapter | 21:48 |
| zkriesse | {Wiki Editing} | 21:48 |
| zkriesse | ? | 21:48 |
| zkriesse | ok what do i do? | 21:48 |
| brandonj | rather than pasting that in here can you use a pastebin? | 21:48 |
| zkriesse | oops sorry | 21:48 |
| zkriesse | forgot | 21:48 |
| brandonj | heh its ok | 21:48 |
| zkriesse | as many times as i've told people to use pastebin i should know better | 21:49 |
| brandonj | can you post your .tex file as well? | 21:49 |
| zkriesse | you mean the one i wish to convert? | 21:49 |
| brandonj | yes | 21:49 |
| dutchie | i bet you need to \documentclass{book} | 21:50 |
| brandonj | that could be it | 21:50 |
| zkriesse | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/455626/ | 21:51 |
| brandonj | yes, add \documentclass{book} | 21:52 |
| dutchie | zkriesse: you need a load of stuff around that | 21:52 |
| zkriesse | ok what | 21:52 |
| dutchie | \begin{document} wouldn't go amiss | 21:52 |
| dutchie | hang on | 21:52 |
| zkriesse | ok | 21:52 |
| zkriesse | Ugh...hate being a noob | 21:52 |
| dutchie | http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Absolute_Beginners#The_LaTeX_source for a minimal LaTeX document | 21:53 |
| dutchie | that wikibook is rather good iirc | 21:53 |
| zkriesse | ok so what do i do | 21:54 |
| zkriesse | I'm more than new to this so... | 21:54 |
| zkriesse | ah wait | 21:54 |
| zkriesse | hold on lemme look | 21:54 |
| dutchie | zkriesse: you want something like http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/455628/ | 21:56 |
| zkriesse | it still didn't work | 21:57 |
| dutchie | what was the error now? | 21:58 |
| zkriesse | one sec | 21:58 |
| brandonj | \gls isn't defined I don't think | 21:59 |
| brandonj | so that should give you an error | 22:00 |
| zkriesse | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/455631/ | 22:03 |
| brandonj | did it work? | 22:04 |
| zkriesse | no | 22:04 |
| zkriesse | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/455631/ | 22:05 |
| brandonj | it says Output written on WikiGuidelines.pdf | 22:05 |
| zkriesse | yeah but the pages are all messed up | 22:05 |
| dutchie | try running it a few times | 22:05 |
| dutchie | that sometimes sorts it out | 22:05 |
| zkriesse | nope | 22:06 |
| zkriesse | it's all messed up | 22:06 |
| zkriesse | blank pages and such | 22:07 |
| brandonj | those are meant to be there I think | 22:07 |
| brandonj | from the book class | 22:07 |
| zkriesse | I really didn't want a book | 22:08 |
| zkriesse | just a page | 22:08 |
| brandonj | try \documentclass{article} instead | 22:09 |
| zkriesse | i did and it said it's missing a slash | 22:09 |
| zkriesse | \ | 22:09 |
| brandonj | remove the table of contents | 22:11 |
| brandonj | and change \chapter to \section | 22:11 |
| brandonj | \chapter doesnt exist in the article class | 22:11 |
| brandonj | you can change the other sections to \subsection | 22:12 |
| brandonj | and \subsubsection as appropriate | 22:12 |
| zkriesse | ok now it's getting there | 22:14 |
| zkriesse | how do i add a text link? | 22:15 |
| zkriesse | or is that not possible | 22:15 |
| brandonj | http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Hyperlinks | 22:15 |
| dutchie | a text link to what? | 22:15 |
| zkriesse | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide | 22:15 |
| brandonj | if you put \usepackage{hyperref} in the preamble (the part before \begin{document}) you can use \url{url} | 22:16 |
| brandonj | or you can do \href{url}{text} | 22:17 |
| zkriesse | ok think i got it | 22:19 |
| zkriesse | I want to push it up to my project on lp | 22:20 |
| zkriesse | oh it put WikiGuidelines.toc on my desktop. | 22:20 |
| zkriesse | can i delete that stuff? | 22:21 |
| brandonj | yeah | 22:21 |
| zkriesse | ok pushing it up to lp | 22:21 |
| brandonj | i don't know a whole lot about launchpad | 22:22 |
| brandonj | do you already have a branch you're using? | 22:22 |
| zkriesse | yeh | 22:23 |
| zkriesse | THink i got it | 22:23 |
| brandonj | i think you can just do bzr add file.tex | 22:24 |
| zkriesse | many thanks getns | 22:25 |
| zkriesse | "gents | 22:25 |
| brandonj | I'm off to study for the gre | 22:31 |
| brandonj | bye | 22:31 |
| godbyk-android | Passing through Glenwood Springs, Colorado, now. | 23:51 |
| godbyk-android | Will see how long the cell phone reception lasts. | 23:52 |
| zkriesse | godbyk-android: cool | 23:53 |
| godbyk-android | Some mother keeps screaming at her baby to stop crying; the baby's paying no mind. | 23:55 |
| godbyk-android | (Not entirely sure how she expected that to work.) | 23:55 |
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