[02:36] dfarning, around? [02:36] lfaraone, around? [02:52] dfarning, ?? [03:13] dipankar, goodmorning [03:13] goodmorning dfarning [03:13] just saw your email [03:14] happy that work has been divided [03:14] :) [03:14] Does it make sense? [03:14] yup sure. Actually Manu Sir explained me before hand on phone [03:15] Ah great. I really didn't understand until I wrote it down. [03:16] dipankar, whenever you are ready we can start poking at the mouse patch. [03:17] yup [03:17] dfarning, we can start right now. I think we have an hour or so. [03:18] before you and Luke go to sleep :) [03:18] great are you familar with the patch system? [03:19] no dfarning, I am not aware of that. Have documentation by Chirag, but not clear. [03:20] dipankar, ok the standard way to share modification in linux is via 'patches' [03:20] ok [03:20] the little piece of code that we solveing the mouse issue was called a patch. do you still have the link for it? [03:22] dipankar, can you review the explanation of patch at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patch_(Unix) [03:25] dfarning, I lost the link. Let me check the logs [03:25] ok I found the patch example at http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1544#comment:16 [03:26] dipankar, found it ^^ [03:27] dfarning, got it [03:28] http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/jhconvert/repos/mainline/blobs/master/patches/0.86/1544.patch [03:28] oops.. didn't see yours.. :) [03:32] ok dfarning, I went through the wiki page [03:32] does it make a little sense? [03:33] I guess I got the idea. Its similar to patches for computer games. They release patches to fix some bugs. [PS: I used to play __a lot__] [03:34] if we look at the existing patch we see that the changed file is in /usr/bin/sugar-session [03:34] :) [03:34] so we need to get the source for that package [03:35] we can use the command apt-get -u source sugar-session-0.88 to get it [03:35] one second David. I need to be on desktop [03:35] dipankar, ok just ping me when you are ready [03:36] actually USR installed on Desktop [03:36] David.. how about icome in 5 minutes.. [03:37] fine [03:44] dfarning, I am on my desktop :) [03:45] ok try download the source with the command given above. [03:46] ok.. dfarning let me first check the sugar-session file [03:47] dfarning, something opened up, but nothing is coming onit [03:47] dipankard, what do you mean? [03:48] dfarning, Its like, when I did above $cd /usr/bin/ [03:49] then $sugar-session [03:49] a window opened up [03:49] like the sugar [03:49] but icons on it [03:50] ok you went to the /usr/bin dir and ran the command 'sugar-session' [03:51] yes [03:51] and the session failed to start? [03:51] no [03:51] it started [03:51] but with no icons [03:51] only gray background [03:51] Ahh.. I see its the bug you told me [03:52] ahh. are you in a terminal in gnome? [03:52] yup [03:53] dfarning, I am not getting the directory you are mentioning [03:53] ok then that is the problem sugar-session will not run properly inside gnome. Instead you have to sugar-emulator [03:53] :( [03:54] sugar-emulator is a thin 'wrapper' which set up the sugar session with the existing gnome session. [03:54] ok.. sugar-emulator is working great [03:56] when you sellect the sugar 'session' from the log in screen it directly calls sugar-session [03:57] ok lets use an editor to look at the sugar-session file [03:57] ok [03:57] got it [03:58] opened it [03:59] ok now let's look at what changed in the patch [03:59] ok [03:59] client.set_string('/apps/metacity/general/mouse_button_modifier', [03:59] 7 - 'disabled') [03:59] 8 + '') [04:00] the - and + mean that the stuff on line 7 was replaced with the stuff on line 8 [04:00] so now we need to go to the sugar-session file and look for that line [04:01] hmmm looks similar to line 233. [04:01] what in on line 232 and 233 in your file? [04:02] I lost track dfarning, Let me rewind a bit. The first part line 7 and 8 are from patch file? [04:02] right? [04:02] yes [04:02] my bad.. I was looking at sugar-session file :( [04:03] got it now? [04:03] yup. on both files [04:04] what in on line 232 and 233 in your file? [04:04] yes David. 232 and 233 [04:04] * lfaraone is back. [04:05] hi lfaraone [04:05] does line 233 contain 'disabled') [04:05] yes David. 233 contains 'disabled' [04:07] hey lfaraone glad you are back I was starting to explain patching a packaging by show what we are trying to change in the /usr/bin/sugar-session file. [04:07] dipankard, the entire point of our patch is to change that line to '') :) [04:08] ok.. :) But why? I mean what does client.get_string() actually do? [04:09] lfaraone, would you mind walking dipankard though the process of creating a package patch? [04:10] dipankard I am not exactly sure, in this instance we are just using a existing patch written by alsroot to fix our package :) [04:10] ohk.. dfarning.. [04:11] I guess the file name in consideration is written on the top of the patch file [04:11] followed by the line no. where the modification is to be done [04:11] and finally what is the modification required. [04:12] yes and the third line is the line number of the orginal changes [04:12] dipankard: yes. rather than being written by hand, it's generated programmatically. [04:12] lfaraone, ok I'll shut up and listen:) [04:12] ok lfaraone, like we have dch for changelog entry [04:13] dipankard: yes. git has built-in support for patch generation. [04:13] ok [04:14] dipankard: so you have the unpacked sources of the Debian package in your current directory, right? [04:15] lfaraone, : I think no. which package shall I download? [04:15] using debcheckout? [04:15] lfaraone, we were look at the file in /usr/bin (its final install detestation) rather than as part of a package [04:16] dipankard: sugar-0.88, I think. [04:18] ok lfaraone just a minute [04:20] btw lfaraone, how do you delete whole folder in Ubuntu? [04:20] I always get a msg : 'Folder not empty' while doing 'shift + del' [04:21] dipankard: I have not seen that message. [04:22] :) [04:22] lfaraone, It will take sometime (slow internet speed here) [04:23] ^^ Package downloading [04:25] dipankard: okay, in the interim, I'll go into some explanation. [04:25] sure lfaraone, that will be great [04:26] dipankard: there are a variety of ways to modify upstream sources in Debian packages. The most obvious is to change the file directly in the source package. [04:26] dipankard: This is seen as a poor practice by many because it both creates problems when rebasing on a new upstream version (you lose the changes) and makes it harder to inspect the chagnes made. [04:27] ok [04:27] dipankard: therefore, a number of patch systems have been created. [04:27] dipankard: a quick overview of them is at http://wiki.debian.org/debian/patches [04:28] dipankard: the one that people seem to be standardizing on now is "3.0 (quilt)" [04:28] dipankard: this uses a patch system called quilt that Debian's dpkg now supports natively. Therefore, it requires no additional dependencies during build. [04:29] dipankard: when you look at the page I linked, you see a column, "Accepts diff -u output" [04:29] ok [04:29] dipankard: diff is the program typically invoked to create diffs. (and is used by git to create diffs). What does the '-u' option do? [04:31] I think it is to decide the file type or something related to unicode [04:32] I am unable to recall it 'unicode' or 'unified'.. something like that lfaraone [04:32] dipankard: well, according to the man page for diff(1), it outputs a "unified diff". This is what we're seeing in the patch that was linked. [04:32] dipankard: in the future, if you're unsure about a command option, running "man " and looking through the resulting page is usually a good way to start. [04:32] ok [04:33] got it lfaraone [04:33] dipankard: so according to the table, 3.0 (quilt), the patch system we're using in sugar-0.88, accepts that output without any modifications. [04:34] lfaraone, a doubt here.. by 'accepts' what are you referring? [04:34] :) lfaraone runs a tight ship when he is teaching. I wouldn't want to miss and assignments for him:) [04:34] s/and/any/ [04:35] dipankard: you can provide that as a patch to the application. [04:36] dipankard: We store patches for Debian packages in a folder debian/patches/ [04:36] yup.. [04:37] dipankard: so since we know that the patch that we're working with is accepted natively by 3.0 (quilt), we can just include the file in debian/patches/. [04:37] dipankard: so that quilt knows the order in which to apply patches, we also have to add the patch file name to debian/patches/series. [04:38] ok. [04:38] got it [04:38] dipankard: I'll be back in 15 minutes. Try and download the patch, add it to the series, and attempt a build of the pacakge. (hint: for the package build you'll need to use "git-buildpackage --git-ignore-new" to avoid git complaining about the lack of a commit) [04:39] ok lfaraone I will try [04:41] dfarning, I am setting up clocks to be in sync with you [04:42] can you please tell me your city [04:42] >? [04:42] also time zone can be useful.. [04:42] I am in the same time zone as chicago -- Central Standard Time [04:44] dipankar you can set the clock in gnome to point to several areas. [04:44] dfarning, done that.. :) [04:44] I have set clocks for Luke and yours [04:45] cool I use it all the time (no pun intended) [04:45] my.. you have one hour time difference among yourselves.. :) [04:47] yes nearly neighbors. well halfway across the country [04:47] :) [04:49] dfarning, How do make a .patch file.. its so confusing [04:49] have to take care of line numbers too [04:49] ? [04:51] dipankar in this case I think that you can just download the one alsroot make and stick in the the /debian/patches/ dir [04:51] where is the download dfarning ? I seem to not find it on that page [04:51] http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/jhconvert/repos/mainline/blobs/master/patches/0.86/1544.patch [04:53] lfaraone, might have a clever way of doing it.... but I would just click 'raw blob data' and cut and paste the results in to a file on my local machine [04:54] :) [04:54] dfarning: I just cd'd into the releveant directory and did "wget http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/jhconvert/repos/mainline/blobs/raw/fad664ab8f1b068f4f38a3871944a7dd3aa6284b/patches/0.86/1544.patch" [04:57] lfaraone, you must forgive me. I am almost 40 and technology confuses me:) [04:57] :) [04:57] ok dfarning, copied the patch [04:58] now shall I add it at the end of the series file? [04:58] yes. [05:00] then I think you will be ready to run git-buildpackage with the proper flags. [05:00] dfarning: add the file name to the series file, yes. putting the patch itself in its own file in debian/patches/ :) [05:00] * dipankard [05:02] lfaraone, Then the build system just iterates though the list of patches in the series files and applies them in order when the package is being built? [05:02] dfarning: Yes. [05:03] ok lfaraone / dfarning : done with the first two steps: [05:03] now to run the packaging [05:03] dipankard: aside, you should read http://pkg-perl.alioth.debian.org/howto/quilt.html at some point so you understand how quilt works in general. [05:05] hey lfaraone : shouldn't we use -S too with the flags? [05:05] dipankard: use -S when you want to do a source upload. In this case, we want to check that the patch was applied when the package is built. [05:06] ok [05:09] dipankar you are going to have to slow down. You are nearly done with you and neeraj's work queue:) [05:09] ok lfaraone : some error on dependencies.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/455295/ I think I missed something [05:10] dfarning: okay, so install the missing dependency listed, right? [05:10] i suppose luke is referring to me :) [05:11] python empy [05:11] yes [05:11] that is correct [05:12] :( How do I add the dependency now. I only know they are in debian/control file [05:12] dipankard: you should install them on your local system using apt-get. [05:13] ohk [05:13] lfaraone: What is the use of 'python-empy' [05:13] ? [05:14] dipankar: that's a good question. I've no idea off the top of my head, but it's needed for Sugar to build :) To find out the utility of a package, use "aptitude show " [05:15] lfaraone: ok.. :) This is very __big__ package.. [05:15] http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=python-empy [05:17] dfarning: I had a talk with neeraj [05:17] dipankar yes [05:17] last night [05:17] he told me he may not be able to join us before 4pm IST [05:18] so he told if patching is urgent then I continue with it [05:19] ok, that is fine it will give you the chance to teach him how to upload a package:) [05:19] yeah sure [05:20] I always to document every new process that I learn here so that team members can go through it too. :) [05:20] *have to [05:20] ok lfaraone: I am left with signing now [05:20] debsign :) [05:21] dipankar on my matrix I tried to identify special skills so that person can teach others as the team grows. [05:21] ohk.. [05:22] dfarning, I guess from next week (after this week's work) we will have to stick to the matrix then :) [05:22] no problem :) [05:23] dipankar well we still need manu to agree that it is a sane way of organizing our efforts:) [05:23] dfarning / lfaraone : I had a question in mind : the dependencies that the packages are associated with. Are they needed to be installed on my local machine while building? [05:24] dipankar: build-deps do. [05:25] ok that means there are more than one dependencies : packages and build.. [05:26] lfaraone, I thought build-deps were automatically installed at build time if they are listed in the control file? [05:26] package dependencies are not required to be installed on local machine while building a package [05:26] dipankar: on the build daemons, yes. but on the machines of us mere mortals, no. [05:26] dipankar: Yeah. There are a set of deps for the source package, and a different set of deps for each bin package. [05:26] dipankar there are two types of dependencies build time and run time [05:26] :) [05:27] ok, [05:27] dfarning, I am done with the package. [05:28] need some one to try it (test) for mouse bug removal :) [05:28] kandarpk, are you around? [05:28] yes [05:29] dipankar you can just install the package in our your own system and make sure that line 232 of /usr/bin/sugar-session is the new value. [05:29] hi kandarpk Sir, can you please try the package? I am sending it over to you. [05:30] We proved that change worked a couple of hours ago. [05:30] dipankar: you can also use file-roller to inspect the deb. all a deb is is an archive with some other files worked. [05:30] oh yeah.. [05:30] forgot about file roller [05:30] dipankar: basically, inside a deb, there is a data and a control archive. look in data then in usr/bin/sygar-session. [05:31] * lfaraone is out for the night, it's 00h30 here. [05:32] kandarpk, are you going to try to install a debian test system today? [05:32] dfarning, yes [05:32] dipankar how does the archive look? [05:32] lfaraone, : what was the syntax for file roller? file-roller [05:32] I'll install a debian system [05:33] kandarpk, great ping me if you have questions [05:33] dfarning, thanks [05:34] I'll ask if face any problem [05:34] dipankar yes that is correct [05:34] dfarning, strange it is not opening.. [05:34] dipankar, couldn't receive the files you sent [05:35] dipankar try clicking on the file in the file manager. [05:35] I am sending it through here, It is showing me connection error [05:36] dipankar, are they meant to fix the mouse problem ? [05:36] yes [05:38] ok [05:38] dipankar I think you have to install the binutils for fileroller to open .deb files [05:38] binutils package [05:38] dipankar, my problem was fixed yesterday so wont be able to test them [05:38] ohk.. [05:39] kandarpk.. [05:39] :) [05:39] you can mail them to ankur [05:39] dfarning, this is strange.. which tarball to open?? [05:41] dipankarit will be named something like sugar-.88 and end with .deb [05:43] dfarning, shoould I install the stable release or the testing distribution of debian ? [05:43] dfarning, [05:43] lfaraone, [05:43] checking done [05:43] patch was successful [05:44] dipankar, well done :) [05:44] thanks kandarpk , [05:44] kandarpk, we want to test against the testing distro [05:44] dfarning, lfaraone : I am signing the package and uploading them to ppa [05:44] ok [05:45] dipankar nice. did you edit the changelog to indicate that you added a patch and then increased the version number [05:48] dfarning, nope.. just tested. I guess I have run the buildpackage again with source only so that it can be uploaded to PPA. [05:48] *have to [05:49] dipankar those build flags confuse me:( [05:50] :) I am too confused with them a bit [05:50] I guess -S is for the source only. [05:50] and is important for ppa upload [05:53] dfarning, I see you sent it new tasks :) [05:54] dipankar I had to add the activity circle or you would be done by noon:) [05:54] haha :) I was thinking of taking sometime off [05:55] no problem [05:55] I will work a little bit slower this time [05:55] :) [05:55] I sent manu a list of other bugs that I think he will assign today or tomorrow. [05:56] ok dfarning :) [05:58] I guess you should have some sleep :) dfarning Its nearing 0000 hrs there [05:59] dipankar I was going to stay up until you uploaded the package and then go to bed:) [05:59] ohk.. [05:59] I am changing the changelog [06:00] making the source only package [06:01] dipankar your successes are creating the momentum for the rest of the team and project. It does not hurt that Luke is a savant:) [06:03] dfarning, I am glad that I am living up to team's expectations. Luke and you are very experienced. I am very happy to be working with you guys [06:05] dipankar yes, I think that I will go to bed now so that I can be up by 6 in case anyone else needs help tomorrow. [06:05] good night [06:05] dfarning, the package is rejected.. :P [06:06] I will try to solve this myslef now [06:06] you can have some rest :) [06:06] ggod night [06:06] *good [06:07] dfarning, good night [06:08] kandarpk sir, you around? [06:08] yup [06:08] will you try patching? [06:08] and uploading the package to ppa? [06:11] wont be able to do that [06:11] have to leave at 11:15 [06:11] no problem :) [06:11] send me the link [06:11] lets to the package [06:12] actually its all in IRC (here only) [06:12] you have open-up the log and follow up the steps :) [06:12] send me the package then [06:12] ok [06:13] I guess I should handle it :), after all its already 10:45 [06:13] hmm [06:13] sorry [06:13] I hope you don't mind that :) [06:14] see you in the evening then :) [06:14] bye sir [06:14] ok [06:14] bye [11:49] good afternoon neeraj_gupta [11:51] good afternoon dfarning [11:53] I am ready for completing the mouse-bug task. [11:54] Please let me know exactly how should I proceed..? [11:55] neeraj_gupta, hmmm how far did dip get this morning? [11:55] hmm.. I don't know.. I haven't talked to him since last night.. [11:56] hmm.. should I ask him? and if lfaraone guided him.. then I can look at the ubuntu-sugar seeta log.. [11:57] neeraj_gupta, looks like he uploaded the package and it sucessfully built about two hours ago:) [11:57] see https://launchpad.net/~sugarteam/+archive/ppa/+packages [11:57] oh.. great :) [11:58] I will ask him the procedure.. or read the documentation to clear my doubts :) [11:59] Yes, we worked then channel so everything should be logged. [12:01] neeraj_gupta, do you have something else you want to learn or work on? [12:07] dfarning, I am going through the log and will try to do these things first.. I guess it will take max to max 20-30 min.. [12:08] If u have something on which I can work or learn right now [12:08] then tell me.. [12:09] I have a lots of free time till Monday morning :) [12:10] neeraj_gupta, ok, I will be around most of the day, just ping me. I am looking into the the issue of why starting the usr.desktop leaves the desktop grey. we can start on that when you are ready. [12:11] I am ready now :).. I don't think I have any important work for the next 6-8 hrs :) [12:12] Whenever you feel like that we can start fixing then ping me :) preferably first on seeta id.. My vm remains minimized mostly :) [12:13] neeraj_gupta, ok :) Can you start by upgrading your system so we pull in the latest packages. [12:13] hmm.. I just updated my whole lucid and USR.iso installation.. [12:15] neeraj_gupta, have you updated lucid since dipankar upload the new sugar session package? [12:17] I updated my lucid(on which USR is installed) like 3-4 hrs ago.. let me run it again.. apart from running upgrade and update command do I need to check anything? [12:18] like in software sources? [12:19] neeraj, have you update software sources to include ubuntu-proposed to fix the gdm bug we were talking about yesterday? [12:20] k [12:22] sugar-session package is getting upgraded.. [12:22] ubuntu-proposed ? pre-released update? [12:24] dfarning, for including ubuntu-proposed fix, which filed I should check in software-sources.. [12:24] As far as I am able to figure out, you are telling me about pre-released updates(under updates) [12:24] neeraj_gupta, I would select -updates, -proposed, and -backports [12:25] k.. :) [12:27] neeraj_gupta, yes that is correct -proposed is the bleed edge fixes, -updates is stuff that has lived in -proposed for a couple of weeks and not caused any problems and -backports is work that has been done for the next release of ubuntu (10.10) and then backported to 10.04 [12:28] ok.. thanks for elaborating :).. [12:28] I will get dc for a min.. I am switching to high speed connection for downloading these updates.. [12:39] dipankar, good after noon:) [12:39] hi dfarning, good morning :) [12:40] dipankar, are you ready to help neeraj fix the problems with the usr.desktop? [12:41] dfarning, okay, but is it possible if we could move slow a bit? [12:41] dipankar, I can explain what is wrong and you can work together to fix it. With the emphasis on you explaining and neeraj doing:) [12:42] dfarning, okay.. [12:42] dipankar, sure. is your mind full from working with lfaraone? [12:43] dipankar, neeraj the problem that we are working on is the fact that when you run usr.desktop the desktop is grey. [12:44] going to the logs it shows that some thing is wrong with the icons [12:44] this makes us wonder why the Sugar desktop works while the usr remix fails [12:46] for this we track down where the files which start the xsession live. /usr/share/xsessions [12:46] dfarning, how do we run usr.desktop? is it similar to running sugar-emulator? [12:48] from there we compare the contents of Sugar.desktop and usr.desktop and see that the problem is the sugar.desktop correctly calls a 'wrapper' script called sugar instead of directly call sugar session. [12:48] change the calles to sugar-session to sugar and it will work:) [12:48] how was that for slow:) [12:49] dipankar, you run usr.desktop from the login screen... the package ubuntu-sugar-remix must be installed [12:49] oops [12:50] got it [12:50] has the session bug been removed? [12:51] sugar is actully a thin wrapper to sugar-session the exact same way sugar-emulator is a wrapper to sugar-session. [12:51] dipankar, if you update to -proposed the gdm bug is automatically fixed [12:52] confused :( [12:52] okay [12:52] I am running updates [12:52] done dfarning [12:53] dipankar, make sure [12:53] you have checked pre released updates [12:53] how do I log out now?? :) [12:53] I am stuck in the icon less environment :P [12:54] So to system->administrator->software sources-> pre-released updates [12:54] dipankar, I just power cycle the machine when that happens :( [12:54] So*-> Go [12:54] hehe.. [12:55] neeraj, I will try that in a minute [12:57] neeraj, I will be here to answer any questions. But let's see if you guys can work through this issue together. to debuggin and fixing process is almost the same as what dipankar did yesterday and earilier today to fix the mouse button issue. [12:58] neeraj, while we are waiting for dipankar to update. Can you: [12:58] 1 clear your log dir [12:59]