[03:03] <gbillings> will ubuntustudio run well with an integrated ATI graphics card 2gb ram 1.6ghz processor and 250gb hd?
[04:13] <zus> what program do i run to hook up an M-audio midi controller my buddy is using ubuntu 9.10
[05:31] <holstein> hey zus
[05:32] <holstein> what controller?
[05:32] <zus> hostein hey bud
[05:32] <holstein> :)
[05:32] <zus> it was an M-audio
[05:32] <holstein> USB?
[05:32] <zus> was just talking about ya
[05:33] <zus> i believe so it's my buddy's midi controller he wanted to record something and was on a friends mac
[05:33] <zus> but he rools ubuntu 9.10
[05:34] <holstein> it might just plug and play
[05:35] <holstein> you can plug it in
[05:35] <holstein> and run lsusb
[05:35] <holstein> and if it shows up, you can go from there
[05:35] <zus> he is the only ubuntu user in my town, that i know of..
[05:35] <holstein> i use a package called madfuload
[05:35] <zus> but he dont care about anything else about the "opensourceness"
[05:36] <holstein> for an maudio transit USB device
[05:36] <holstein> if it doesnt just show up automagically
[05:36] <holstein> i would try that package
[05:36] <holstein> and then go from there
[05:37] <zus> ty
[05:38] <tucemiux> must be a really really small town 0_o
[05:38] <holstein> the local LUG here is just blowing up really
[05:39] <holstein> we probably average 12 at the meetings
[05:39] <holstein> we had about 18 linux users though at one of the meetings
[05:39] <tucemiux> greetings holstein
[05:39] <holstein> hey tucemiux :)
[05:39] <zus> yeah i want a lug but id have to start it and well one other person who isnt interested aint gonna work
[05:39] <tucemiux> that must've been a record
[05:39] <holstein> i helped a couple guys in hte LUG get JACK running in ubuntustudio
[05:40] <holstein>                          the* ^^
[05:40] <holstein> im going to see if i can figure out how to use the projector there
[05:40] <holstein> with my portable rig
[05:40] <holstein> and do a presentation
[05:41] <zus> i tried to open frebirth notthing happened and then zynaddsubfx wasnt making any sound,... so what began as looking for tutorials resulted in watching videos on billy sheehan play bass. with steeve vai
[05:41] <holstein> hehe
[05:42] <holstein> you got JACK running right?
[05:42] <holstein> zynadd is funky
[05:42] <holstein> theres a new one, yoshimi
[05:42] <holstein> a fork of it
[05:42] <holstein> but, i still havent gotten it to build ;P
[05:45] <zus> i dont know if jack is running right
[05:45] <zus> i had it open too and nothing came out
[05:45] <tucemiux> so it's Idiots Dont Play Loud Music At Lakes?
[05:45] <holstein> tucemiux: yup :)
[05:46] <holstein> ionian dorian phrygian lydian mixolydian aeolian locrian
[05:46] <holstein> but the names dont matter much really
[05:46] <tucemiux> I got the ionian, which one do you suggest I shoot for next?
[05:46] <holstein> dorian
[05:47] <tucemiux> dorian it is!
[05:47] <holstein> and mixolydian are both used alot
[05:47] <holstein> mixolydian probably a little more often than major
[05:47] <holstein> zus: we should troubleshoot your JACK set up sometime
[05:48] <zus> splendid holstein
[05:48] <holstein> having that running solid can really simplify things
[05:48] <holstein> some of the software is set up to depend on JACK
[05:48] <holstein> and either wont work, or wont start without JACK running
[05:49] <holstein> im not sure, but freebirth could be one of those
[05:49] <zus> hmm. that would be a problem hehe
[05:52] <zus> if we do it tonight, gimme a few minuites  i have to finish up some work...
[05:52] <holstein> we'll get it sometime for sure
[05:52] <holstein> i might crash here in a bit
[05:53] <tucemiux> is it normal for the dorian mode to give you deja vu memories?
[05:54] <holstein> hmmm...
[05:54] <holstein> sure, why not
[05:54] <zus> tucemiux,  what are you guys talking about? scales?
[05:54] <holstein> in a good way?
[05:54] <holstein> yup
[05:55] <tucemiux> zus, yes
[05:55] <tucemiux> im just looking at the numbers and i think ive seen that pattern before, just never practiced it
[05:55] <holstein> its handy
[05:55] <holstein> dorian
[05:56] <holstein> minor scale with a flat 7
[05:56] <tucemiux> i still havent covered that yet, first ill learn the basics and practice it, then start figuring out what a 7 is
[05:57] <holstein> say we're in C
[05:57] <holstein> the key of C
[05:57] <tucemiux> i got lost somewhere
[05:57] <holstein> we use roman numerals to talk about the chords
[05:57] <tucemiux> can you translate it into spanish?
[05:57] <holstein> nah
[05:57] <holstein> i'll go slower though
[05:57] <holstein> and try to be more clear
[05:58] <zus> all i know of scales are th pattern for cmajor is the  same patern  for all the major notes
[05:58] <tucemiux> yeah we can continue next week, i got my day's lesson already
[05:58] <holstein> hehe
[05:58] <holstein> tucemiux: :)
[05:58] <tucemiux> zus, do you play an instrument?
[05:58] <holstein> zus: its really the same shapes on the string instruments
[05:58] <holstein> like bass
[05:58] <zus> i play bass and guitar, but only began teaching myself music theory  3 months ago
[05:58] <holstein> you want to transpose
[05:58] <holstein> you just move up a frett
[05:59] <holstein> fret*
[05:59] <holstein> it gets more complex on a piano
[05:59] <holstein> well, different
[05:59] <holstein> arguably more complex
[06:00] <zus> by teahcing myself music theory i mean going beyond playiong my favorite songs and jamming with friends, i want to know  what (for example) the band leader means when he shouts "play till the 5" in the middle of a progression
[06:00] <holstein> sure
[06:01] <holstein> you know what 'the five' means?
[06:01] <zus> tucemiux,  what do you play?
[06:01] <tucemiux> zus, once you know the scales and their modes it gives you a very good arsenal to work with
[06:01] <tucemiux> zus, im learning guitar
[06:01] <zus> holstein,  i belive that means play to the fitfth in a I IV V prograssion
[06:01] <holstein> pretty much
[06:02] <holstein> the five would be the V chord
[06:02] <holstein> LIKE
[06:02] <holstein> in the key of C
[06:02] <holstein> the V is G7
[06:02] <zus> f
[06:02] <zus> g7
[06:02] <holstein> its a little confusing
[06:02] <holstein> because of the 2 number systems going on
[06:02] <zus> oops  was i missing a finger?
[06:02] <holstein> we use roman numerals for the chords
[06:03] <holstein> and numbers for the scale degrees
[06:03] <holstein> and you would say 'five chord'
[06:03] <holstein> and would probably say 'the fifth'
[06:03] <holstein> if you want to talk about the 5th note of the scale
[06:03] <holstein> FOR EXAMPLE
[06:03] <holstein> in C
[06:03] <zus> the 7 means its the 7th tone of the scale so one would know where on the fret board to look for and not hit the "E" on the 3rd fret?
[06:03] <holstein> F is the 4th
[06:04] <holstein> if you go up the the 'five chord
[06:04] <holstein> to G7
[06:04] <holstein> C is the 4th then
[06:04] <holstein> zus: pretty much
[06:04] <holstein> in C
[06:04] <holstein> B is the 7th
[06:04] <holstein> and Bb is the 'flat 7th'
[06:05] <holstein> we call chords with a flat 7th 'dominant 7th' too
[06:05] <holstein> its al just terms though
[06:05] <holstein> all*
[06:05] <holstein> no big deal
[06:06] <holstein> just take them in when you can as you go
[06:06] <zus> i spent all day teaching my self wild word by cat stevens, the song was looped 8 hours of "oh baby its a wild world" which is in c
[06:06] <holstein> OH yeah
[06:06] <holstein> I V IV
[06:06] <tucemiux> holstein, you still havent told me how long you believe i should practice scales? 30 minutes? 45 minutes?
[06:06] <holstein> i like that tune
[06:06] <holstein> tucemiux: just keep it fun
[06:07] <holstein> you dont want to get burned out
[06:07] <zus> if i may suggest,
[06:07] <holstein> and i suggest to students to spend an equal amount of time making music
[06:07] <tucemiux> holstein, im not getting any younger
[06:07] <holstein> not just ramming scales
[06:07] <holstein> if you play scales for 10 minutes
[06:07] <holstein> play a tune for 10 minutes
[06:07] <holstein> too
[06:07] <holstein> in time
[06:07] <holstein> without stopping
[06:07] <holstein> just like your performing it
[06:08] <tucemiux> holstein, i notice that when I practice scales I can play better, my ear improves as well
[06:08] <holstein> its good practice
[06:09] <tucemiux> so a song that i practiced and practiced and practiced and somehow it didnt  sound right?  Then I practiced my scales then went back and tried the song again, all of a sudden the sound sounded more proper, more in time, crispier
[06:09] <zus> tucemiux,  play as long as ya can but not till your fatigued it does more damage when your fingers cant move...
[06:10] <tucemiux> zus, i cant get to that point, i usually fall asleep before I feel any pain
[06:10] <holstein> thats great zus
[06:10] <holstein> oops
[06:10] <holstein> tucemiux: ^^
[06:10] <holstein> thats the way it should be
[06:10] <holstein> your practice time helping your performances
[06:11] <zus> lol more drills and practice the less bloodshed in the war
[06:11] <tucemiux> what I really enjoy is practicing my scales and then when little nephew comes around and he starts singing a little tune of his own  i look up for the tab and can play along with him, im going to record him the next time he comes and visit
[06:12] <holstein> nice
[06:17] <zus> i get board on scales though, to be honest
[06:17] <zus> i need to learn them though
[06:17] <zus> apparently i can get a grove but my rhythm suffers...i dont get playing with a click track, i feel its a distraction ( i dont know how to play with one lol) but if i had a great drummer i fall in to the pocket
[06:18] <holstein> if you can keep it interesting somehow
[06:18] <holstein> scale practice
[06:19] <holstein> get a funk groove going in hydrogen or something
[06:19] <holstein> and play scales along with it in syncopated rhythyms
[06:19] <holstein> or something to keep it fresh
[06:20] <tucemiux> well good night, time to hit the sack
[06:22] <zus> yeah i was messing with hydrogen,
[06:24] <zus>  i like drums its a  un - investigated curiosity. i have no rhythm lol i'd be lost behind a kit, though i should be much more in tune with drums than i am now.
[06:33] <zus> nighters holstein
[10:22] <c7p> hello all
[10:22] <c7p> Where can I find the conexant fusion  878a tv card drivers ?
[13:19] <databridge> hey guys
[13:20] <databridge> i want to connect tuxguitar with zynasubbfx - it works but only the first instrument is played
[13:29] <rlameiro> i never used tux guitar
[13:29] <rlameiro> i dont know how to help you
[13:32] <databridge> do you know something else?
[13:32] <rlameiro> what is tuxguitar suposed to do?
[13:33] <databridge> its a guitar tab software with midi output
[13:33] <rlameiro> so, you want to play sounds from the tab in zynaddsub? is it?
[13:34] <databridge> true
[13:34] <databridge> just want to hear how it sounds
[13:34] <rlameiro> ok, why do you want to use zynadsub? any special reason?
[13:34] <rlameiro> ahh, ok
[13:34] <rlameiro> well, zynaddsub is a synthetizer
[13:34] <rlameiro> you have some sound patch already there, so you may choose them from the instrument button
[13:35] <rlameiro> but, when you say the first instrument are you refering to the tablature?
[13:36] <rlameiro> because if you need more then one sound at a time, you need to setup the synth to receive each instrument on each midi channel
[13:36] <rlameiro> else the synth will never guess wich instrument to play
[13:36] <rlameiro> i do not now if zynaddsub supports multichannel
[13:36] <databridge> i also don`t know
[13:36] <databridge> but maybe i need so select the channels i didnt do thast
[13:37] <rlameiro> well, usually they go to channel 0 or 1 by default
[13:37] <databridge> i have not too much knowledge of midi
[13:38] <databridge> i got it working with fluidsynth now
[13:38] <rlameiro> if you start another and connect it to tuxguitar, you need to change the second zynaddsub to match another channel, so it could play another voice
[13:38] <rlameiro> yea, fluidsynth does that
[13:38] <rlameiro> i was going to recommend you that
[13:38] <databridge> can i send the instruments to my keyboard so that it does the playback?
[13:38] <rlameiro> but if you want to play zynaddsub, i dont know another way
[13:38] <databridge> its a very old one from 1990
[13:39] <rlameiro> is it midi?
[13:39] <databridge> yes
[13:39] <rlameiro> does it have some GM logo
[13:39] <databridge> its from general music
[13:39] <rlameiro> no, general midi
[13:39] <databridge> cd-1
[13:39] <databridge> yes its also general midi
[13:39] <rlameiro> ok
[13:40] <rlameiro> it should play
[13:40] <rlameiro> but, i dont know if it will use the correct sounds, but it should play4
[13:40] <databridge> i connect it with jack but there comes no sound
[13:40] <rlameiro> at least with piano sound
[13:40] <databridge> hm
[13:41] <rlameiro> well, make sure all you cables are well connected
[13:41] <databridge> i can play on my keyboard through zynasubbfx
[13:41] <databridge> that works fine
[13:41] <rlameiro> so, it works
[13:42] <rlameiro> you need to connect tuxguitar midi out, to your keyboard midi in and it should work
[13:43] <databridge> i did that but maybe the keyboard has its midi in disables i don`t know i also have no manual for it
[13:43] <databridge> its too old :D
[13:43] <databridge> i got it from my old school 10 years ago
[13:44] <rlameiro> well, maybe you should check in with channels is tuxguitar sending out midi info
[13:44] <rlameiro> and then send the info to channel 0
[13:45] <databridge> ok i try
[13:46] <rlameiro> if you have problems hang on this channel
[13:46] <rlameiro> someone wil eventualy answer and help you
[13:46] <databridge> yes thx
[13:46] <rlameiro> i am sure that here are people better suited to answer midi questions than me
[13:47] <rlameiro> well, i need to go now
[13:47] <rlameiro> cya and good luck
[13:49] <databridge> :)
[14:50] <Mahjongg> hello, I am looking for an application to manually decode conversations in an audio. I am specifically looking for the future to play the audio faster and slower than normal. Would you recommend me any application that can do this?
[15:04] <Mahjongg> what's that feature called that enables playing the voice slower or faster?
[15:04] <Mahjongg> is it the pitch
[17:07] <Mahjongg> any voice recorder applications that can do faster/slower play that you may suggest?
[17:24] <holstein> hey Mahjongg
[17:25] <Mahjongg> hey
[17:25] <holstein> one of the easiest i could suggest is using audacity
[17:29] <Mahjongg> holstein, audacity speed adjustment is not the easiest
[17:29] <Mahjongg> I am looking for a knob to slide for speed
[17:30] <holstein> do you use JACK?
[17:30] <Mahjongg> no, I have default ubuntu installation
[17:30] <Mahjongg> lucid
[17:30] <holstein> in my opinion, audacity is the easiest way for you
[17:31] <Mahjongg> is this not something trivial, I am surprised that noone ever needed this feature
[17:31] <holstein> the other ways require learning other software to get to the pitch correction tools
[17:31] <Mahjongg> holstein, I am absolutely looking for the easiest way, this is for my mom
[17:31] <holstein> yup
[17:31] <holstein> audacity
[17:32] <Mahjongg> in audacity you change speed through the effects, am I correct
[17:32] <holstein> if i remember correctly
[17:32] <holstein> you import the file you want to look at
[17:32] <holstein> and you can select the area you want to effect
[17:33]  * holstein looking
[17:34] <Mahjongg> thank you
[17:35] <holstein> yeah
[17:35] <holstein> under effects
[17:35] <holstein> theres change pitch
[17:35] <holstein> and change speed too
[17:35] <holstein> and a preview button
[17:36] <holstein> there are plenty of other tools really
[17:36] <holstein> some real time processing options
[17:36] <holstein> but nothing i feel like i could even explain the functionality of to my mother ;)
[17:37] <holstein> Mahjongg: let us know if it doesnt work out, and we'll try something else
[17:39] <Mahjongg> holstein, all right thank you for your help but I think audacity will not cut it
[17:39] <Mahjongg> when I cahnge the speed it resamples the source
[17:40] <Mahjongg> I do not think it is usable for decoding conversations
[17:44] <Mahjongg> holstein, could you let me know what real time processing options are there
[17:45] <Mahjongg> It is ok if they allow only raw data
[17:45] <Mahjongg> I can convert
[17:48] <holstein> hmmm
[17:48] <holstein> Mahjongg: what do you mean my 'resamples the source' ?
[17:48] <Mahjongg> the change in speed is not instant
[17:49] <Mahjongg> it processes the source file
[17:49] <holstein> yeah, you'd have to apply it to the track
[17:49] <Mahjongg> and only then you hear it, she will need to constantly change the speed she is working on the file
[17:49] <holstein> hmmm
[17:49] <Mahjongg> I really need a know that she can keep her hands on
[17:50] <Mahjongg> a knob...
[17:50] <holstein> you going to be around for a bit?
[17:50] <holstein> i'll look around
[17:50] <Mahjongg> yes
[17:50] <Mahjongg> thank you very much, I really appreciate it
[17:50] <holstein> JACK and the other pro-atudio tools are just not an option in my opinion
[17:51] <holstein>                        ^^ audio*
[17:51] <Mahjongg> I would certainly not prefer since they would scre her
[17:51] <Mahjongg> scare...
[17:53] <holstein> Mahjongg: SO
[17:54] <holstein> just to be clear
[17:54] <holstein> she doesnt need to really save the file correct?
[17:54] <Mahjongg> no
[17:54] <holstein> cool
[17:54] <Mahjongg> just play
[17:56] <holstein> Mahjongg: do you have VLC installed?
[17:57] <Mahjongg> yes
[17:57] <Mahjongg> does it do that?
[17:57] <holstein> check it out and see
[17:57] <holstein> its speed control
[17:58] <Mahjongg> yep, I am checking
[17:58] <holstein> you can get to it from the playback menu
[17:58] <holstein> OR
[17:58] <holstein> the 1.00x
[17:58] <holstein> you click on that and you get a slider
[17:59] <Mahjongg> holstein, cool, thanks so much I should have tried VLC the first place, it is such a cool project
[17:59] <holstein> yeah, i like VLC
[17:59] <holstein> Mahjongg: you think that'll do it?
[18:00] <holstein> if not, a player plugin is probably the way to go
[18:00] <Mahjongg> it'll certainly do iy
[18:00] <Mahjongg> it...
[18:00] <holstein> :)
[18:00] <Mahjongg> actually, exactly what I was looking for
[18:00] <holstein> and that should be mom-friendly too :)
[18:00] <Mahjongg> I couldn't come up with the correct keywords for searching
[18:00] <Mahjongg> speed I searched pitch I searched but both are very broad keywords
[18:01] <holstein> i actually saw an xmms plugin in my first search
[18:01] <holstein> and that made me think to check VLC
[18:02] <Mahjongg> cool, thanks again
[18:02] <holstein> :)