[00:00] <Raggs> Venim,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1467638
[00:01] <Venim> hmmm
[00:03] <Viking667> hm. Does the xubuntu iso provide for a _update_ rather than a _install_?
[00:05] <Raggs> Viking667, i dont believe so, but there are ways of upgrading from one to a newer one
[00:05] <Venim> Raggs: hmm, that seems like it would be the issue
[00:06] <Venim> but i when i press S, nothing loads
[00:06] <Venim> just black screen
[00:06] <Viking667> I want to actually install xubuntu to a existing Ubuntu 10.04
[00:06] <Viking667> but I have a bit of a problem.
[00:06] <Raggs> Venim, sorry, i just happened upon that, never had that error
[00:06] <Venim> hmm ok
[00:06] <Venim> i'll see what i can do
[00:06] <Raggs> Viking667, what is the problem?
[00:07] <Venim> Raggs: he wants to turn ubuntu->xubuntu
[00:07] <Viking667> things aren't .... working right. 3D programs don't work, and firefox doesn't want to start up either.
[00:07] <Viking667> most other programs seem to work, but those don't. Oh yeah, and Skype gets killed on startup.
[00:07] <Raggs> Viking667, what have you tried so far?
[00:08] <Viking667> Not a lot, as it's obviously something I installed that threw things out.
[00:08] <Raggs> but no idea what that would be?
[00:08] <Viking667> I tried installing the "official" ATI drivers, but they didn't recognise my video card (9550)
[00:09] <Viking667> Well, then I took that back out, then installed something to do with mesa. That's when some of the 3D programs stopped working for me.
[00:09] <Viking667> I don't know what started killing off skype.
[00:10] <Raggs> switching from ubuntu to xubuntu isnt a huge thing
[00:10] <Venim> Raggs: yeah, now i get just blackscreen :/
[00:10] <Raggs> try running skype from the command line
[00:10] <Raggs> Venim, that aint good
[00:11] <Venim> ugh... stupid graphics drivesr
[00:11] <Venim> drivers*
[00:12] <Venim> i really should've gotten ati drivers :p
[00:12] <Venim> a nvidia card*
[00:12] <Venim> anyone using 10.6 drivers for ati cards?
[00:20] <Viking667> sigsev
[00:20] <Viking667> sorry, already tried that.
[00:21] <Viking667> Oh yeah, and the flaming framebuffer doesn't show anything until Xorg comes up
[00:21] <Viking667> back in 9.04, it used to ... can't remember about 9.10
[00:23] <Viking667> hm. A:ctually, that's SIGABRT
[00:24] <Viking667> (for Skype)
[00:25] <Viking667> and as I haven't got the source code, I can't exactly say what's killing it off.
[00:26] <Viking667> the other thing is, the install is a standard Ubuntu, packed out with the Studio packages and quite a few others.
[00:31] <Raggs> Viking667, not sure, sorry
[00:31] <Viking667> no, neither am I.
[00:32] <Viking667> That's why I thought i'd try with installing an Xubuntu over the top of a standard Ubuntu... but I somehow don't see any upgrade in-place option
[00:32] <Raggs> Viking667, do you have a seperate /home?
[00:32] <Viking667> no, in this case.
[00:33] <Viking667> The drive was only 80Gb, and only 60Gb was Ubuntoid.
[00:33] <Viking667> s/was/is/
[00:33] <Raggs> 8G / and the resst  /home would be ok
[00:33] <Raggs> doesnt help you now though
[00:33] <Viking667> heh. I'm not sure. Hang on a minute, I'll check.
[00:38] <Viking667> Hm. Seems my / takes up more than 8Gb, even if I remove /home and /VM
[00:39] <Raggs> Viking667, show me the output of df -h
[00:39] <Viking667> Ah well. It's not helped by the fact that my DVD burner no longer seems to work right, and I've no idea why.
[00:39] <Viking667> it's on the other machine, give me a minute.
[00:39] <Viking667> /dev/sdb2             64522916  57645864   3599392  95% /
[00:40] <Raggs> forgot the -h
[00:40]  * Viking667 blinks
[00:40] <Viking667> Sorry, I'm so used to using the real figure.
[00:41] <Raggs> np
[00:41] <Viking667> comes from being in the Linux world for so long some things set in concrete...
[00:41] <Viking667> like usig grep as arg to find command:  -exec grep pattern {} /dev/null \;
[00:41] <Raggs> well, no seperate home there
[00:42] <Viking667> hm. I meant to add a -n in there somewhere
[00:42] <Viking667> Raggs: that's right. There's no separate home on that drive.
[00:42] <Raggs> how new of an install?
[00:42] <Viking667> It's been around since ..... 8.10, I guess, though I cleaned stuff out.
[00:43] <Viking667> I could always strip back to the bone again, try reinstalling.
[00:43] <Viking667> But that's a good three or four days work to get it back to rights.
[00:43] <Raggs> i would suggest asking in ubuntu first
[00:43] <Viking667> i.e. remove bloody pulseaudio cos it does'nt work jack on my computer.
[00:43] <Viking667> mmm.
[00:44] <Viking667> Tried there, no real answers.
[00:44] <Raggs> ahhh
[00:52] <Raggs> Viking667, i will say that xubuntu is nice
[00:52] <Viking667> I know. I installed it on my wife's computer because it's a bit lighter than the normal fare.
[02:11] <Venim> what's the best way to reinstall x
[03:29] <IncrStorm> I don't need samba server running, I just need to have client access to SMB type shares, any thoughts?
[03:45] <Raggs> IncrStorm, hi again
[03:45] <Raggs> can you remove just the server?
[03:56] <Venim> so... the xubuntu 10.04 install CD doesn't work for me
[03:56] <Venim> perhaps that's why the upgrade didn't work for me as well
[03:57] <Raggs> Venim, from ubuntu right?
[03:58] <Venim> no
[03:58] <Venim> xubuntu
[03:58] <Venim> to xubuntu
[03:58] <Viking667> I've managed to fix Firefox (removed moonlight-plugin-mozilla) and Skype (enabled the partner repository, and upgraded Skype)
[03:58] <Raggs> ok, so that install is messed up?
[03:58] <Viking667> now I'm just working through the 3D issues.
[03:58] <Raggs> Viking667, great
[03:59] <Viking667> Well, not so great. I don't know how to troubleshoot this one.
[03:59] <Venim> Raggs: yes, but i can't even run the live CD
[03:59] <Venim> which shouldn't have anything to do with whats on my HD
[03:59] <Raggs> Venim, have you a flashdrive handy?
[03:59] <Venim> ya
[03:59] <Venim> why
[03:59] <Raggs> i have an idea
[03:59] <Venim> ok
[04:00] <Viking667> ATI Radeon 9550 (rv350), I tried the ATI drivers but they didn't recognise my card. Things went south from there for 3D.
[04:00] <Raggs> Venim, look at this  http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[04:00] <Viking667> Oh yeah. And framebuffer has been blank for me since I upgraded to 10.04
[04:00] <Raggs> Viking667, i have intel stuff on most all my computers
[04:01] <Raggs> brb, need a reboot
[04:01] <Viking667> Heh. It's not ATI or NVidia, so a lot of games don't like me
[04:01] <_Techie_> Viking667, for a radeon 9550 you will want to use the ATI driver
[04:01] <_Techie_> Viking667, rather than fglrx
[04:02] <Viking667> hm? You mean "ati" from opensource?
[04:02] <_Techie_> yez
[04:02] <Viking667> heh. I ad to go back to that
[04:02] <Viking667> weird thing is, I didn't have issues until I tried to install fglrx (as that had worked for me before)
[04:03] <Viking667> Now, my direct rendering speed is a quarter of what it was, and my glxinfo strings differ from what I used to have.
[04:03] <_Techie_> well, with  a card like a 9550 fglrx is bad news.. its aimed at the HD cards
[04:03] <Viking667> meh.
[04:03] <Viking667> wb, Raggs
[04:03] <_Techie_> i use to use a 9600XT and i ran into huge problems with fglrx
[04:03] <_Techie_> used*
[04:03] <Raggs> thanks Viking667
[04:05] <Raggs> Venim what do you think?
[04:06] <Venim> Raggs: i'm tring it now
[04:06] <_Techie_> Venim, may i ask why you need to re install Xubuntu?
[04:06] <Venim> _Techie_: 10.04 upgrade got shitfucked
[04:06] <_Techie_> i see
[04:07] <bazhang> Venim, watch the language
[04:07] <Viking667> heh. I struck that with a 10.04 upgrade of Ubuntu 9.10... things changed, and not for the best.
[04:08] <Venim> bazhang: sry, i'm just quite frustrated
[04:09] <Venim> it seems that my graphics card doesn't work with the 10.04 installer
[04:09]  * Viking667 knows how Venim feels, but hey. 
[04:09] <bazhang> Venim, alternate installer tried yet?
[04:09] <Venim> bazhang: that other iso?
[04:09] <bazhang> !alternate
[04:10] <bazhang> Venim, that does well when the live cd chokes
[04:11] <Venim> ok, i will try
[04:12] <Venim> Raggs: yea... live cd doesn't work period with my graphics card
[04:13] <Raggs> sorry Venim
[04:13] <Venim> stupid ati...
[04:13] <Venim> why did i pick it :p
[04:13] <Venim> i guess i will put an nvidia card in there
[04:15] <_Techie_> Venim, which card is it?
[04:15] <Venim> radeon 5750
[04:15] <_Techie_> aah, nice
[04:15] <Venim> worked just fine in 9.10
[04:15] <Venim> perfectly
[04:16] <_Techie_> i guess ill have to see how the crossfired 5770's go in my new rig when i get the parts
[04:16] <Venim> good luck getting it work <_<
[04:16] <Venim> to work
[04:19] <Venim> i thikn i'm just gonna go and install 9.10
[04:19] <Venim> and forget about updating
[04:22] <Raggs> _Techie_, have you ever used docky?
[04:25] <_Techie_> Raggs, nope
[04:26] <Raggs> ok, trying to figure out how to get a newer version installed
[04:41] <Venim> ok i'm giving up
[04:41] <Venim> i'm just going to reinstall 9.10
[04:41] <Venim> and forget about 10.04
[04:42] <Viking667> Hm. Does anyone actually _have_ a /usr/lib/libGL.so symlink pointing anywhere?
[05:07] <Raggs> hi xubuntu_newbie
[05:07] <xubuntu_newbie> hi @lighta are you still here?
[05:07] <xubuntu_newbie> hi @Raggs
[05:07] <xubuntu_newbie> I'm still looking a way how to change refresh rate to like 85GHz
[05:07] <xubuntu_newbie> :( it's 60GHz now and blinking so fast that I'm going to be blind
[05:07] <Raggs> i am not a great xorg guy, sorry
[05:08] <xubuntu_newbie> haha.. @Raggs, that's fine, it's still good to know there is someone who chats and response even if he/she cannot help much :D
[05:08] <xubuntu_newbie> so @Raggs, this refresh rate has something to do with the XORG?
[05:08] <Raggs> yes, i cant do much, i make a mean cocoa though
[05:09] <xubuntu_newbie> well, friends, I have downloaded the Intel Graphics Controller Driver from Intel.com
[05:09] <xubuntu_newbie> however I really donnu how to install it
[05:09] <Raggs> you have intel?
[05:09] <xubuntu_newbie> i use a Mac and Windows, first time I use Xubuntu. just downloaded it to my computer a few hours ago
[05:09] <xubuntu_newbie> yes, my old PC uses an Integrated Intel Graphics Card
[05:10] <Viking667> heh. 815 or 810 ?
[05:10] <xubuntu_newbie> no, it's a 845G
[05:10]  * Viking667 blinks... wow.
[05:10] <xubuntu_newbie> my computer was bought in around 2004
[05:10] <xubuntu_newbie> well, my desktop is now not with me. i'm at office now
[05:10] <xubuntu_newbie> searching for possible solutions
[05:13] <xubuntu_newbie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26966
[05:13] <xubuntu_newbie> but it didn't say how :(
[05:14] <Raggs> i remember havint to install 915 resolution
[05:16] <xubuntu_newbie> what is 915 resolution?
[05:16] <Raggs> an app to use intel 945 equipment
[05:16] <Raggs> brb
[05:47] <_Techie_> Raggs, did you bail because of xubuntu_newbie?
[05:47] <Raggs> god no
[05:48] <Raggs> i like to help, however i am easily distracted
[05:48] <_Techie_> okay
[05:48] <Raggs> adhd is a pain
[05:49] <Raggs> i hope it didnt look that way, but clearly it did
[05:53] <_Techie_> nah, not really
[05:53] <_Techie_> its what i woulda done though
[05:54] <_Techie_> also he was trolling i do beliefve
[05:54] <Raggs> _Techie_, ok, i would not like to run someone off linux, but if he were a troll ...
[05:56] <_Techie_> Raggs, theres 2 reasons why i didnt even bother talking to him... 1) an intel card couldnt output anything near 85Ghz    2) if it could... the display would just go into standby
[05:57] <Raggs> ok good to know, my intel stuff works well
[07:28] <Raggs> hi all, can someone give me a hand with chroot an installing grub?
[07:29] <Viking667> yup
[07:29] <Raggs> sweet
[07:29] <Raggs> i am in a live cd
[07:29] <Viking667> mount /dev/hdnX /your/dir; cd /your/dir; chroot . /bin/bash
[07:30] <Viking667> you'll have to tweak the mount line of course
[07:30] <Raggs> i have ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo chroot /media/67e26105-b997-4ddb-af4e-63d6c50bb225/
[07:30] <Viking667> ah.
[07:30] <Viking667> no.
[07:30] <Viking667> start with "sudo su -"
[07:30] <Viking667> then go: cd /media/bloody-long-string; chroot . /bin/bash
[07:31] <Raggs> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo su - root@ubuntu:~# cd /media/55f999f4-7258-48eb-b186-8a11cec81f37/ chroot . /bin/bash root@ubuntu:/media/55f999f4-7258-48eb-b186-8a11cec81f37#
[07:32] <Viking667> Then edit your /etc/grub.d/stuff
[07:32] <Raggs> lost me
[07:32] <Viking667> weird.
[07:32] <Raggs> no, i mean i dont know how
[07:32] <Viking667> you don't do it all in one hit.
[07:32] <Viking667> i.e. cd /media/55f999f4-7258-48eb-b186-8a11cec81f37/
[07:32] <Raggs> cant just reinstall grub huh
[07:32] <Viking667> now do:  pwd
[07:33] <Viking667> Well, you could... I'm trying to walk you through.
[07:33] <Raggs> root[/]# pwd / root[/]#
[07:33] <Viking667> ah huh. Is that INSIDE the chroot?
[07:33] <Raggs> yes
[07:33] <Viking667> good. That lsook correct.
[07:33] <Viking667> bah. Looks.....
[07:34] <Viking667> now go edit /etc/grub.d/* to suit your setup
[07:34] <Viking667> you may also have to check /etc/default/grub to see if you need to change anything in there too...
[07:34] <Viking667> I recently went through this when I upgraded the (%)(*@ machine's grub, which was 0.97 at the time.
[07:35] <Raggs> hold on, no grub
[07:35] <Viking667> huh?
[07:35] <Raggs> damn, wrong drive
[07:35] <Viking667> ouch
[07:37] <Viking667> type exit then...
[07:37] <Viking667> that exits the chroot
[07:37] <Raggs> and start over
[07:38] <Viking667> means you'd better umount 55f99....
[07:38] <Viking667> At least you haven't had my problem...
[07:39] <Raggs> root@ubuntu:/# pwd / root@ubuntu:/#
[07:39] <Viking667> I wanted to boot the BSDs natively, only problem is, when I boot the respective kernels bare, they complain they're missing certain information that only seems to show when they're actually booted using their boots.
[07:39] <Raggs> ok here we go again
[07:39] <Viking667> right. Check out /etc/grub.d/*  and /etc/default/grub
[07:40] <Raggs> root@ubuntu:/etc/grub.d# ls 00_header  05_debian_theme  10_linux  20_memtest86+  30_os-prober  40_custom  README root@ubuntu:/etc/grub.d#
[07:41] <Viking667> does 00_header and 10_linux look like it should?
[07:41] <Viking667> Remember, there's programming in grub now, to do the probing of Linux kernels
[07:41] <Raggs> dont know what they should look like
[07:41] <Viking667> that's what 10_linux shows. Any other OSes you want to show up? i.e. Winblows?
[07:42] <Raggs> no, another linux, but we can worry bout that when i can get back into buntu
[07:42] <Viking667> If It's another Linux, it may be picked up and added by 30_os-prober
[07:42] <Raggs> ok
[07:43] <Viking667> I don't know, I don't have more than one Linux on a machine
[07:43] <Viking667> ... so that's something I've never had occasion to test
[07:43] <Raggs> we still need to add grub to the mbr ?
[07:43] <Viking667> check out /etc/default/grub now
[07:44] <Raggs> what am i looking for?
[07:45] <Viking667> Not sure. Check out that the LINUX and LINUX_DEFAULT lines are like you want them to read... especially the UUID of the drive you're booting off.
[07:45] <Viking667> Personally, I'd use root=/dev/hda instead of UUID, but hey.
[07:45] <Raggs> GRUB_DEFAULT=0 #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian` GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
[07:46] <Raggs> the rest is commented
[07:46] <Viking667> hm. I'd remove that quiet and splash
[07:46] <Viking667> that way, you get to see text.
[07:46] <Raggs> i just want it to boot
[07:46] <Viking667> brb... closing door
[07:47] <Viking667> try running "update-grub2"
[07:47] <Viking667> see what results you get in /boot/grub/grub.cfg as a result
[07:48] <Raggs> root@ubuntu:/etc# update-grub2 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?). root@ubuntu:/etc#
[07:48] <Viking667> ooogh
[07:48] <Raggs> that isnt good
[07:49] <Viking667> check if /dev is mounted then
[07:49] <Raggs> how?
[07:49] <Viking667> type "mount"
[07:50] <Viking667> see if one of those is a /dev
[07:50] <Raggs> long output
[07:50] <Raggs> a few are
[07:50] <Raggs> i cant chroot into a unmounted drive can i?
[07:50] <Viking667> no
[07:50] <Viking667> hm.
[07:51] <Viking667> what does ls /dev/[hs]d[a-d]* show?
[07:52] <Raggs> showed i am an idiot
[07:52] <Raggs> ls /dev/[hs]d[a-d]*  /dev/sda   /dev/sda2  /dev/sda6  /dev/sdb   /dev/sdc /dev/sda1  /dev/sda5  /dev/sda7  /dev/sdb1  /dev/sdc1
[07:52] <Viking667> hm. no fstab?
[07:52] <Viking667> oh!  run blkid
[07:52] <Viking667> see if THAT turns up anything recognisable
[07:52] <Raggs> nothing
[07:53] <Viking667> ouch.
[07:53] <Viking667> then you may need to 'tweak' /etc/fstab
[07:54] <Raggs> Viking667: where do you want me to run the comands, in the chroot right?
[07:54] <Viking667> yup.
[07:54] <Viking667> If you don't see blkid working, then you may have to check out the non-chroot's version
[07:55] <Raggs> root@ubuntu:/etc# blkid /dev/loop0: TYPE="squashfs"  root@ubuntu:/etc#
[07:55] <Viking667> uff.
[07:55] <Raggs> uff isnt good is it?
[07:55] <Viking667> nup.
[07:55] <Viking667> you have sda etc, which drive is your /
[07:55] <Viking667> ?
[07:56] <Raggs> sda6
[07:56] <Viking667> hm? A logical partition?
[07:56] <Viking667> not a primary?
[07:57] <Raggs> primary i think
[07:57] <Viking667> sda6 isn't primary
[07:57] <Raggs> i am beginning to think a reinstall would be better huh
[07:57] <Viking667> only sda1-4 are primary
[07:57] <Viking667> I'm not sure that would fix it
[07:57] <Raggs> sure it would
[07:58] <Viking667> let's work with what we have. I'm sure we can fix this
[07:58] <Raggs> hold on, i have an  idea to give you what we are working with
[07:59] <Viking667> okay.
[08:00] <Raggs> my drive layout   http://imagebin.ca/view/aoqMkPPX.html
[08:01] <Viking667> Ahh, so you're dealing with sda5 then.
[08:02] <Viking667> or sda6?
[08:02] <Raggs> 5 is buntu /
[08:02] <Viking667> right.
[08:02] <Raggs> 6 is /home
[08:02] <Viking667> what does your /etc/fstab show (inside the chroot)?
[08:02] <Raggs> 7 is Salix/
[08:02] <Viking667> Salix, huh? That Slack-based or something?
[08:03] <Raggs> yes
[08:03] <Viking667> heh. Thought so. I hadn't heard the name before, thought I'd take an educated guess.
[08:03] <Raggs> pasted in other place
[08:04] <Viking667> wow. Your fstab's been run over by a steam train
[08:04] <Viking667> Right. INto that file, add something like this:    /dev/sda5  /  defaults  1 1
[08:04] <Viking667> oh, hang on. I missed a field
[08:04] <Raggs> buntu does that
[08:04] <Viking667> something like this:    /dev/sda5  / ext4  defaults  1 1
[08:05] <Viking667> We'll get the device showing once we're booted into the OS itself.
[08:05] <Viking667> You may want to add /dev/sda7  /home  ext4  defaults,ro  1 1
[08:05] <Viking667> (so you have any /home files you need)
[08:05] <Viking667> oh, hang on, sda6, not 7
[08:05] <Raggs> done
[08:05] <Viking667> My fingers are cold
[08:06] <Viking667> Write out the file, see what update-grub says now
[08:06] <Raggs> should i take out the other dec/sda5 and 7?
[08:06] <Viking667> huh? Y ouhave them in?
[08:06] <Viking667> show me that fstab again?
[08:06] <Viking667> and paste them as separate lines
[08:06] <Viking667> oh, too late
[08:07] <Viking667> actually, that looks good, I suspect. If you can paste it to a pastebin so I can look at the lines?
[08:08] <Raggs> http://pastebin.ca/1889669
[08:09] <Viking667> Ahhh. stick a # in front of lines 15 and 16
[08:09] <Viking667> We won't possibly need those for the moment.
[08:09] <Raggs> you just had me add those
[08:09] <Viking667> the / uuid looks correct
[08:10] <Viking667> Yeah, now I can see the lines you pasted, they actually look good for the moment.
[08:10] <Viking667> Right, so the fault's not with fstab.
[08:10] <Viking667> What's in /proc/mounts  ?
[08:10] <Raggs> ok, good
[08:10] <Viking667> Well, maybe. We've still got to get grub to agree.
[08:10] <Viking667> Actually, go check out what /boot/grub/grub.cfg says.
[08:10] <Viking667> You'll have to pastebin that, it's  long.
[08:11] <Raggs> nothing in proc
[08:11] <Viking667> wuuh?
[08:11] <Viking667> shyte.
[08:11] <Viking667> mount -t proc /proc proc
[08:11] <Viking667> I _think_ that'll work
[08:11] <Raggs> mount: mount point proc does not exist
[08:12] <Viking667> yeargh.
[08:12] <Viking667> ls /
[08:12] <Viking667> see if proc is at the top of the tree
[08:12] <Viking667> I could have it the wrong way around... that'd figure
[08:12] <Raggs> it is
[08:12] <Viking667> right.   mount -t proc proc /proc
[08:12] <Viking667> see if THAT works
[08:13] <Raggs> it did
[08:13] <Viking667> cat /proc/mounts
[08:13] <Raggs> empty
[08:13] <Viking667> hm.
[08:13] <Viking667> that'll be why grub can't find anything to mount
[08:13] <Raggs> hold on
[08:14] <Raggs> http://pastebin.ca/1889671
[08:14] <Raggs> grub got removed when lilo was installed
[08:14] <Viking667> Oh!
[08:15] <Viking667> You have lilo in place... and you want grub back???
[08:15]  * Viking667 shakes his head... ours not to reason why...
[08:15] <Raggs> lilo is broken
[08:15] <Viking667> heh.
[08:15] <Raggs> so i need to install grub again
[08:15] <Viking667> That mounts comes from the outside of the chroot, I suspect
[08:16] <Raggs> dont know
[08:16] <Viking667> It does. I can tell.
[08:16] <Raggs> ok
[08:16] <Viking667> but anyhow, try running update-grub again
[08:17] <Raggs> > /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[08:17] <Viking667> yeesh.
[08:17] <Viking667> see what's in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[08:18] <Viking667> and pastebin that, please
[08:19] <Raggs> http://pastebin.ca/1889673
[08:19] <Raggs> brb. need a drink
[08:21] <Viking667> hm.
[08:21] <Viking667> seems like it's grub-probe that's complaining
[08:23] <Viking667> Right. I think I've gained a little expert assistance, so I'll drop that into the channel when you come back
[08:24] <Raggs> back
[08:24] <Viking667> Try this:   grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[08:25] <Raggs> > /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?).
[08:25] <Viking667> yeah. That's the error we got the last time.
[08:25] <Viking667> Right. exit the chroot. I think we can do this a different way.
[08:25] <Viking667> You'll need to reboot
[08:25] <Raggs> i bet there shouldnt be a /
[08:26] <Viking667> there SHOULD be a /, your problem is, your mounts shows you have TWO of them
[08:26] <Viking667> ... which is about right for a chroot
[08:26] <Raggs> ok, this isnt a quick fix it seems
[08:26] <Viking667> Might be, might not be.
[08:26] <Viking667> Exit the chroot anyhow.
[08:26] <Raggs> lol, it is 3:30 here
[08:26] <Viking667> ... I found a guide that may help us out
[08:27] <Viking667> and it's only 19:30 here.
[08:27] <Viking667> (on Saturday)
[08:27] <Raggs> saturday here too
[08:27] <Viking667> So I've been up for longer than you have...
[08:27] <Viking667> lol.
[08:27] <Viking667> So. Have you managed to exit the chroot?
[08:27] <Raggs> done
[08:28] <Viking667> Right. You'll have to tailor this next one to fit, replace mnt with media/67-bloodylongstring
[08:28] <Viking667> mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev
[08:29] <Viking667> i.e. you're mounting your live CD's devtree onto the same place as /media/67e26105-b997-4ddb-af4e-63d6c50bb225/
[08:29] <Raggs> Viking667 i thank you for all the help. but itis 3:30 am, i am running out of steam
[08:29] <Viking667> Aww. Almost THERE!!!
[08:29] <Raggs> alright
[08:29] <Raggs> we will see
[08:29] <Viking667> yup. Feel like rebooting?
[08:29] <Viking667> it'll keep the /proc stuff straight.
[08:30] <Raggs> as root rightt
[08:30] <Viking667> as in, reboot the LiveCD and boot off it again
[08:30] <Raggs> do that other stuff first?
[08:31] <Viking667> nope
[08:31] <Viking667> not yet
[08:31] <Raggs> brb
[08:31] <Viking667> cool
[08:33] <Raggs> back
[08:33] <Viking667> 'llo, and wb
[08:33] <Viking667> right. you're booted, obviously
[08:34] <Raggs> must be
[08:34] <Viking667> got your mountpoint set up?
[08:34] <Viking667> i.e. is /dev/sda5 mounted?
[08:34] <Raggs> i have nothing set up
[08:34] <Viking667> Ah well, go mount your /dev/sda5 if it isn't already on /media/67xxyyzz....
[08:34] <Raggs> yep
[08:35] <Viking667> # mount --bind /dev  /media/67e26105-b997-4ddb-af4e-63d6c50bb225/dev
[08:35] <Raggs> they are mounted
[08:35] <Viking667> # mount --bind /proc  /media/67e26105-b997-4ddb-af4e-63d6c50bb225/proc
[08:36] <Viking667> # mount --bind /sys  /media/67e26105-b997-4ddb-af4e-63d6c50bb225/sys
[08:36] <Raggs> as root?
[08:36] <Viking667> er, yeah.
[08:36] <Viking667> otherwise they'd have sudo in front
[08:36] <Viking667> but you'll need to be root to chroot anyhow
[08:36] <Raggs> sudo ...
[08:36] <Raggs> what was that command?
[08:36] <Viking667> which one?
[08:37] <Viking667> "sudo su -"
[08:37] <Raggs> that one
[08:37] <Viking667> I don't usually stuff around with commands-by-commands-sudo... I generally just su into root, do the stuff I need to, then get the )**$% out.
[08:37] <Viking667> So. As root, have you done those three mounts?
[08:38] <Raggs> yes
[08:38] <Viking667> good.
[08:38] <Raggs> no
[08:38] <Raggs> frick
[08:38] <Viking667> wot?
[08:39] <Raggs> done
[08:39] <Raggs> did it wrong the first time
[08:39] <Raggs> ount: mount point /media/55f999f4-7258-48eb-b186-8a11cec81f37/proc does not exist
[08:39] <Viking667> ugh.
[08:40] <Raggs> i am just going to redo the hdd
[08:40] <Viking667> yeah, you need that other digity thing I typed out all for you to type
[08:40] <Viking667> hey he hey.
[08:40] <Viking667> I'm three commands away from updating your grub
[08:40] <Raggs> ok
[08:40] <Viking667> so, you'vedone the three mounts, to the CORRECT mountpoint?
[08:41] <Raggs> no
[08:41] <Viking667> go.
[08:41] <Raggs> mount --bind /dev  /media/55f999f4-7258-48eb-b186-8a11cec81f37/
[08:41] <Raggs> i did that
[08:41] <Viking667> no no no
[08:41] <Viking667> you've got the wrong UUID
[08:42] <Raggs> i know
[08:42] <Raggs> no i dont
[08:42] <Raggs> that is sda5
[08:42] <Viking667> sda5 is your root?
[08:42] <Viking667> or sda6 is your root?
[08:42] <Raggs> i dont know anymore
[08:42] <Raggs> i am going to bed
[08:42] <Raggs> we can finish in about 7 hours
[08:42] <Viking667> According to the picture you pasted back when, 67e2xxxx is your /
[08:43] <Viking667> I wont be here in seven hours
[08:43] <Viking667> I'll be tucked up in bed
[08:43] <Raggs> Viking667: seriously ty
[08:43] <Raggs> i needs sleep
[08:43] <Viking667> then I'll give you a link
[08:43] <Raggs> k
[08:43] <Viking667> http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[08:44] <Viking667> That's what I used to help you through, afore you piked out with sleep <grin>
[08:44] <Raggs> good talking with ya, maybe see you tomorrow evening
[08:44] <Viking667> You have a good sleep
[12:05] <slow-motion> hi
[12:32] <_Techie_> heya slow-motion, how are you tonight?
[12:32] <slow-motion> the night was fine. here is bright day at the moment
[22:31] <Venim> hola
[22:31] <Venim> i just reinstalled xubuntu, and networking is having issues
[22:31] <Venim> my usb dongle won't connect to anything
[22:32] <Venim> i had this similar situation when i was trying to get it working with arch, where I have multiple drivers trying to work
[22:32] <Venim> so i was wondering how to blacklist some drivers
[22:33] <moetunes> !blacklist
[23:28] <Raggs> hi Venim
[23:28] <Venim> hi
[23:29] <Raggs> another day of ubuntu fun huh
[23:29] <Venim> eh sorta
[23:29] <Venim> i tried arch
[23:29] <Venim> then gave up because i'm too lazy to mess with graphics
[23:31] <Raggs> maybe archbang sometime
[23:34] <omega333> Hello everyone
[23:35] <omega333> I have few questions about partitions. I hope someone will be able to help me
[23:35] <Raggs> partitions are goood
[23:36] <omega333> I've got installed opensuse 11.2 beside xubuntu
[23:36] <Raggs> and?
[23:37] <omega333> I was wondering could be possible to use suse /home partition in xubuntu?
[23:37] <Raggs> yes it is possible
[23:37] <omega333> I mean mount as new home partition and delete old one
[23:42] <omega333> ok I think I have found some guidelines about mounting partitions
[23:43] <omega333> I'll try it now
[23:43] <Raggs> ok
[23:43] <omega333> see ya
[23:44] <slow-motion> n8