[00:00] <lex79> I have already debian/pyversions file in -workspace
[00:00] <ScottK> OK.
[00:57] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1143213 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/DetailsWidget.cpp (log message trimmed)
[00:57] <CIA-99> Work around http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-2533 by forcibly
[00:57] <CIA-99> resetting the CharFormat Fixes a bug where you'd click on the launchpad link,
[00:58] <JontheEchidna> QTextEdit is busted v,v
[00:59] <JontheEchidna> If you click on a link, QTextEdit::clear doesn't reset the QTextCharFormat, and when you set new text all lines will be hyperlinks to the old link :/
[01:00] <JontheEchidna> Creating/setting a new QTextCharFormat fixed it: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=1143213
[01:26] <lex79> http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/bizarre_cathedral_69
[01:26] <lex79> :D
[02:05] <ofirk> ping to all
[02:05] <JontheEchidna> pong
[02:05] <ofirk> I have done setting the staging site for the new kubuntu.org website
[02:05] <ofirk> and I want you to bullet proof it 
[02:05] <ofirk> http://staging.www.kubuntu.org/
[02:09] <ofirk> please send your notes to my email klinger.ofir@gmail.com
[02:11] <ryanakca> ofirk: On the feature tour, some of the images get cut on the right
[02:12] <ofirk> ryanakca: hi! which?
[02:12] <ryanakca> Images?
[02:13] <ryanakca> Just a sec
[02:14] <ryanakca> The one with the cards, the Kopete one is just a few pixels from getting cut and Amarok 
[02:17] <ofirk> you mean the thumbnails, right?
[02:18] <ryanakca> The screenshots
[02:18] <ofirk> yes
[02:18] <ofirk> the thumbnails of the screenshots suppose to be in a fixed size
[02:18] <ryanakca> The big ones next to paragraphs, not the little thumbnails under paragraphs.
[02:19] <ofirk> oh
[02:19] <ryanakca> *nod*. They get cut by the border / a fraction is missing
[02:19] <ofirk> lol
[02:19] <lex79> this: http://imagebin.ca/view/D-ashrP.html
[02:19] <ofirk> this is meant to be
[02:20] <ryanakca> Ah
[02:20] <ofirk> I borrow it from apple (shame on me): http://www.apple.com/macosx/refinements/
[02:22] <JontheEchidna> ofirk: If you run the "optimizegraphics" utility from kdesdk-scripts on the images directory, you can lossesly optimize all the .pngs and save a few kilobytes
[02:22] <JontheEchidna> Also, "http://staging.www.kubuntu.org/themes/kubuntu10.04/images/bg-navigation-item.png" referenced by style.css returns a 404, dunno if that is intended or not
[02:23] <ofirk> JontheEchidna: fixed. thanks!
[02:25] <ofirk> I am looking into the optimizegraphics script you suggested
[02:25] <JontheEchidna> I <3 optimizegraphics :D
[02:30] <ofirk> it looks like a serious script
[02:30] <ofirk> what exactly it does?
[02:35] <JontheEchidna> Basically it's a script that KDE periodically runs over its source tree to losslessly optimize the .png and .svgz files in the source tree. (It uses optipng for pngs)
[02:35] <JontheEchidna> !info optipng
[02:35] <JontheEchidna> http://optipng.sourceforge.net/
[02:36] <ofirk> nice
[02:38] <ofirk> can someone read the download page to see if there are any grammer mistakes? http://staging.www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
[02:40] <ofirk> I just checked the site under IE8 (blah) and it looks good (except some weird IE problems like black backgrounds for pngs)
[02:40] <JontheEchidna> "This CD does not include the Live CD" <- I'd change that to "This CD does not include the Live Installer"
[02:41] <JontheEchidna> oh, and
[02:41] <JontheEchidna> ", instead it uses a text-based installer. -> 
[02:41] <JontheEchidna> bla
[02:41] <JontheEchidna> ", instead it uses a text-based installer. -> ", but instead uses a text-based installer"
[02:42] <ofirk> changed
[02:42] <ofirk> .. and changed
[02:42] <ofirk> thanks!
[02:45] <JontheEchidna> In the "About the Alternate CD" section, "text based" should be hypenated, as was done above. (Same with officially supported in the Wubi section)
[02:46] <ofirk> I am going to sleep.
[02:46] <ofirk> Everyone: you can send me notes to my email (in topic).
[03:04] <valorie> ofirk - I noticed the the games screen shown isn't what I see anymore
[03:05] <valorie> it used to be a lovely warm brown
[03:05] <valorie> now is sort of icky green, since the KDE upgrade
[03:06] <valorie> oops, I'll send email
[04:24] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1143253 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/DetailsWidget.cpp Use proper KUIT tags rather than raw html markup now that I've got things working with regard to that...
[04:26] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1143255 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/ (3 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[04:26] <CIA-99> PackageDelegate optimizations: - Make the icon a member that is
[04:26] <CIA-99> initialized/thrown on the heap once, rather than at each paint - When
[04:29] <JontheEchidna> ^results in one KIcon always on the heap that wasn't there before, but it should be quite tiny (and speed up painting of the view)
[04:35] <JontheEchidna> especially since it avoids trips in to KIconLoader each paint
[06:28] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1143262 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (package.cpp package.h) It turns out that the NotInstallable flag is really a NotDownloadable flag. Rename it, and fix all the invalid usages of it that were based on the assumption that it meant "invalid"
[06:29] <valorie> JontheEchidna: when will muon be ready?
[06:29] <JontheEchidna> when its ready ;)
[06:29] <valorie> it's already looking better than synaptic, which is what I use now
[06:30] <valorie> usually
[06:30] <JontheEchidna> Probably not 10.04
[06:30] <valorie> I've heard so much good about Mav alpha
[06:30] <JontheEchidna> *10.10
[06:30] <valorie> I probably will get the beta
[06:31] <JontheEchidna> I'll put it in a PPA for 10.10, at the very least. Perhaps get libqapt + the batch util in to replace install-package for 10.10
[06:32] <valorie> so much cool stuff coming down the pike
[06:41] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1143263 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/package.cpp Can't call Downloadable() on packages with no candidate version without a crash, as silly as that seems :s
[06:46] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1143264 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/package.cpp (log message trimmed)
[06:46] <CIA-99> We're only using the cached state in one convenience function. The overhead
[06:46] <CIA-99> savings for calculating the state each time in the constructor are worth
[06:48] <JontheEchidna> *for not calculating
[08:20] <ofirk> shadeslayer: ping
[08:20] <apachelogger> yay
[08:20] <apachelogger> \o/
[08:21] <ofirk> apachelogger: how are you?
[08:22] <apachelogger> a bit pissed
[08:22] <apachelogger> as usual
[08:22] <apachelogger> "Access to desktopcouch requires authentication, so that only the owner of the desktopcouch can see the data in it. Authentication is through two-legged OAuth. The OAuth token and token secret should be retrieved from the keyring when required; do not cache these tokens, but request them when needed. (They may change; if the ini file is deleted, it will be regenerated with new tokens and the keyring will be updated.) Libraries that access
[08:22] <apachelogger>  desktopcouch should seamlessly access these tokens and use them to OAuth-sign requests without bothering the user."
[08:22] <apachelogger> now, despite this piece coming from freedesktop.org please read gnome-keyring when you read keyring there
[08:22] <apachelogger> they just suggest that this works with any keyring
[08:22] <apachelogger> in fact it does only work with the author's keyrings system
[08:23] <apachelogger> gotta love this
[08:23] <ofirk> I'm afraid I can't help you with that :(
[08:23] <apachelogger> yeah well, life sucks -.-
[08:23] <ofirk> but you know what will cheer you up? reviewing the new kubuntu site at http://staging.www.kubuntu.org/
[08:23] <ofirk> :)
[08:23] <apachelogger> ofirk: how is the website coming along? :D
[08:23] <ofirk> lol
[08:23] <apachelogger> well, will it ever go live ;)
[08:23] <ofirk> it is done
[08:24] <ofirk> I hope in the next couple of days
[08:24] <apachelogger> oh
[08:24]  * apachelogger keeps fingers crossed
[08:24] <ofirk> I just want a feedback from kubuntu devs
[08:24] <apachelogger> ofirk: get rid of the ktorrent icon
[08:24] <apachelogger> otherwise love it
[08:24] <jussi> ofirk: I never got around to reporting this/bugging you, but I mentioned the other day that it woulb be a good thing for us to link to Kubuntu stuff in the canonical store, no?
[08:24] <ofirk> I know you hate it but it fits well
[08:25] <apachelogger> ofirk: dude, it looks like horrible, how can it fit :P
[08:25] <apachelogger> at best it is irritating since it suggests that the download is a torrent while the preferred from is from the super web servers I think
[08:26] <jussi> I tend to agree, while the concept is correct, the ktorrent ikon is... err...
[08:26] <apachelogger> isn't there one dedicated to downloads?
[08:27] <apachelogger> ofirk: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdesupport/oxygen-icons/32x32/actions/download.png?view=markup
[08:27] <jussi> Perhaps a CD icon may be better? or a cd with an arrow? (have we got something like that?)
[08:27] <ofirk> apachelogger: nice
[08:27] <apachelogger> I am sure nuno hates us for using an app icon as action icon ;)
[08:28] <ofirk> I will check into it
[08:28] <apachelogger> http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdesupport/oxygen-icons/32x32/actions/download.png?view=markup - exchange globe with CD
[08:28] <apachelogger> as seen for time: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdesupport/oxygen-icons/32x32/actions/download-later.png?revision=1062098&view=markup
[08:28] <jussi> So, Ive a question. is there a ppa of some description that I can get the latest network management plasmoid?
[08:28] <apachelogger> question is how well the CD icon with the blue download icon looks though
[08:29] <apachelogger> jussi: tonio might have it in his ppa
[08:29] <jussi> if the cd was done well it would be great
[08:29] <apachelogger> otherwise you can always look at launchpad ;)
[08:30] <ofirk> jussi: about the store items... 
[08:30] <jussi> apachelogger: hard to trust random launchpad ppa's - Id rather get someones opinion if I can :)
[08:30] <ofirk> The store is really empty. you can only buy CDs of kubuntu, the other stuff is for Ubuntu...
[08:30] <jussi> ofirk: well doesnt that suck
[08:30]  * apachelogger 's opinion is that we should use the openSUSE build service and have proper nightlies :P
[08:31] <jussi> ofirk: Have we followed up and tried to get more?
[08:31] <ofirk> I don't know
[08:31] <jussi> ofirk: Ok, Ill go after the weekend and see if we can. if so, then Ill let you know and we can then link to it. ok?
[08:33] <ofirk> jussi: yes :)
[08:34] <valorie> ofirk: I sent you a couple of emails with feedback on little details on the staging site
[08:35] <ofirk> valorie: I saw them. I am looking for someone to write an how-to about how to connect to IRC
[08:35] <ofirk> valorie: thanks again for your feedback
[08:35] <valorie> good deal
[08:36] <valorie> ofirk: we have a simple page in linuxchix.org
[08:36] <valorie> and I think we adapted that for ubuntu-women
[08:36] <valorie> let me look
[08:37] <valorie> http://www.linuxchix.org/connecting-linuxchix-irc-using-xchat.html
[08:37] <valorie> there is one, but xchat is probably not what you want
[08:37] <apachelogger> click icon in bottom left -> go to applications -> Go to internet -> select quassel
[08:38] <apachelogger> oh you also have to click next trice ^^
[08:38] <ofirk> apachelogger: we need a step-by-step guide on how to connect to #kubuntu on freenode
[08:38] <me> hello :P
[08:38] <me> \o/
[08:38] <me> ofirk: that is how you connect to #kubuntu
[08:38] <me> it is pre-configured in quassel
[08:38] <Guest60003> you just enter your desired login name and real name
[08:38] <Guest60003> that is it
[08:38] <valorie> I think it is in Konvi too
[08:39] <Guest60003> ought to
[08:39] <Guest60003> konvi is not default though :P
[08:39] <valorie> which is better, of course
[08:39] <valorie> ;-)
[08:39] <Guest60003> so of little concern
[08:39] <valorie> !
[08:39] <valorie> lol
[08:40] <valorie> I think you can connect from the chat client too
[08:40] <valorie> although i haven't tried
[08:40] <apachelogger> jussi: debfx seems to have the nm plasmoid in his experimental ppa
[08:40] <apachelogger> no clue how usable it is though
[08:41] <valorie> oh, there is also a webchat
[08:43] <apachelogger> ofirk: http://staging.www.kubuntu.org/themes/kubuntu10.04/images/icons/shipit.png is that globe really oxygen?
[08:43] <apachelogger> also this icon seems sort of pixly/badly rendered
[08:43] <valorie> http://webchat.freenode.net/
[08:44] <ofirk> apachelogger: yes, it is from oxygen/64x64/apps/email.png
[09:04] <CIA-99> [summit] ilic * 1143295 * trunk/l10n-support/templates/summit/ (41 files in 20 dirs) Summit gather.
[09:12] <apachelogger> ofirk: this does not exist here
[09:44] <CIA-99> [docmessages] stikonas * 1143307 * (21 files in 15 dirs) Updated Lithuanian translation.
[09:46] <debfx> jussi: the nm plasmoid works fine for me
[10:08] <jussi> debfx: is it a daily build? 
[10:09] <jussi> and has it yet got the 3 g db?
[10:09] <debfx> jussi: not sure, it's a backport of the version in maverick
[10:09] <jussi> debfx: ppa line?
[10:11] <debfx> jussi: are you sure that you want to use that ppa? ^^
[10:11] <jussi> debfx: no... :D 
[10:11] <debfx> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/debfx/experimental/ubuntu lucid main
[10:12] <jussi> debfx: what else is inthere?
[10:12] <debfx> vlc 1.1 and a new version of xdg-utils
[10:13] <jussi> right, sounds great. cant break stuff too bad then :D
[10:15] <jussi> !gpgerr
[10:17] <debfx> jussi: you can call add-apt-repository ppa:debfx/experimental which fetches the gpg key automatically
[10:17] <jussi> debfx: youve a small packaging error: 
[10:17] <jussi> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/plasma-widget-networkmanagement_0.9~svn1137272-0ubuntu1~lucid0_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[10:17] <jussi>  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/default/icons/network.svgz', which is also in package kdebase-runtime-data 4:4.4.85-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1
[10:19] <debfx> jussi: oh, you have kde 4.5
[10:19] <jussi> yeah, beta ppa
[10:20] <debfx> it won't work then but we should imho put the nm plasmoid into the beta ppa
[10:20] <jussi> oh?
[10:20] <jussi> why wont it work?
[10:22] <debfx> hm right, if the lucid nm works this one should work too
[10:22] <debfx> but you have to tell dpkg to ignore the overwrite error
[10:22] <jussi> I havent been using the plasmoid
[10:22] <jussi> yeah, I already did
[10:24] <jussi> seems to work at this point...
[10:24] <jussi> I think Im headed to maverick at some point tho
[10:24] <jussi> soon...
[10:25] <jussi> Mind you, Icon is huge...
[10:29] <ofirk> everyone: does "Pictures are an important part of today's life, with hundreds of photos of familiy and friends." sounds fine to you?
[10:30] <jussi> ofirk: in which context?
[10:30] <ofirk> it's from the feature tour: http://staging.www.kubuntu.org/feature-tour#feature-tour-apps-graphics
[10:32] <jussi> ofirk: its not quite right, let me think about it for a sec. also, substitute "nice" in the title with something else - Ill think about that also. 
[10:33] <jussi> maybe, s/nice/beautiful, simple, easy? 
[10:33] <jussi> one of those
[10:34] <ofirk> sounds good
[10:35] <ofirk> do you have an idea about the sentence with the photos of family?
[10:36] <jussi> yeah, Im trying to form something good. 
[10:37] <jussi> it just feels a little bit on the short side, like its missing something
[10:40] <ofirk> I am talking with my friend. he is also trying to think of something...
[10:42] <jussi> ari-tczew: there was no need for the restart
[10:42] <jussi> :D
[10:43] <ari-tczew> ;-)
[11:06] <CIA-99> [summit] okushi * 1143325 * (41 files in 19 dirs) SVN_SILENT: summit merge
[11:34] <shadeslayer> ofirk: poke
[11:35] <ofirk> shadeslayer: poke to you :)
[11:35] <shadeslayer> ofirk: btw your feature tour page might be picked up by kde.org ;)
[11:35] <shadeslayer> ofirk: so... why did you ping me? :P
[11:36] <ofirk> I forgot :|
[11:36] <ofirk> shadeslayer: what do you mean picked up by kde.org?
[11:36] <shadeslayer> ofirk: like.. they might do something along the same lines
[11:37] <ofirk> shadeslayer: oh, nice :)
[11:39] <shadeslayer> ofirk: their channel is #kde-www
[11:40] <shadeslayer> ofirk: oh and http://www-devel.kde.org
[11:40] <ofirk> shadeslayer: I'm looking forward to see theirs. they have great artists, so I think they will suprise us :)
[11:41] <shadeslayer> they fixed the toggle menu in their staging site,its much better now
[11:41] <ofirk> yes, the previous one was bad!
[11:42] <shadeslayer> yeah.. loads of usability issues
[11:43] <shadeslayer> ofirk: btw i installed drupal6,can you tell me how to get the source code of staging kubuntu.org?
[11:43] <shadeslayer> ill learn some :P
[11:44] <ofirk> part of it is in https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~klinger-ofir/+junk/kubuntu-website-theme
[11:45] <ofirk> I will upload the rest when I have time to organize it (the code is a mess)
[11:45] <shadeslayer> ofirk: hehe :P
[11:56]  * shadeslayer has all sorts of headaches from reading apachelogger's mail 
[11:57] <apachelogger> that can happen
[12:12] <shadeslayer> Riddell: you guys are going to akademy right?
[12:13] <shadeslayer> i dont see anything here : http://akademy.kde.org/program/conference
[12:28] <ofirk> I wrote a guide on help.ubuntu.com for Quassel, can someone please review it? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Quassel
[12:29] <ofirk> There is a link from kubuntu.org to it, so it should be written in a good English...
[12:37] <debfx> the xserver xtest extension is screwed since lucid :/
[12:38] <debfx> for example the keyboard applet types y instead of z (german keyboard layout)
[12:39] <debfx> "setxkbmap de" or setting the keyboard layout in system settings fixes it
[12:45] <tsimpson> ofirk: I edited the page a little
[12:45] <ofirk> tsimpson: thanks!
[12:46] <tsimpson> ofirk: btw, it looks very good :)
[12:47] <ofirk> tsimpson: thanks :)
[13:03] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: seen http://pcapriotti.wordpress.com/2010/06/25/effective-qt-in-ruby-part-1/ ?
[13:04] <jussi> hrm. so is there any way to get the usb connections thing, the sound icon and the klipper icon out of the systray and into a plasmoid?  similar to what the network manager plasmoid has done?
[13:07] <Riddell> the network manager plasmoid is in the systray by default
[13:35] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: ruby is supreme!
[13:41] <shadeslayer> ofirk: poke
[13:42] <shadeslayer> ofirk: screenshots for wiki done ;)
[13:42] <ofirk> great
[13:42] <ofirk> where can I see it?
[13:42] <shadeslayer> one sec
[13:44] <ofirk> shadeslayer: I need to go
[13:44] <ofirk> shadeslayer: I will take a look later this day
[13:44] <shadeslayer> ofirk: just one sec :P
[13:44] <ofirk> shadeslayer: :)
[13:44] <shadeslayer> ofirk: http://ubuntuone.com/p/87T/
[13:44] <shadeslayer> there you go :D
[13:45] <shadeslayer> have a look when your free ;)
[13:46] <ofirk> shadeslayer: I forgot that you suppose to do it, so I did it earlier: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Quassel
[13:46] <ofirk> shadeslayer: I'm sorrry 
[13:46] <ofirk> shadeslayer: :(
[13:46] <shadeslayer> ofirk: thats ok :P
[13:46] <shadeslayer> we can add the alt+F2 dialog box tho
[13:46] <ofirk> shadeslayer: ok, I have to go. people here become angry at me :)
[13:47] <shadeslayer> hehehe
[14:45] <debfx> how do I disable drkonqi?
[14:46] <Riddell> debfx: http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/Environment_Variables#KDE_DEBUG
[14:50] <debfx> Riddell: thanks
[14:50] <debfx> now apport gets in my way :(
[14:51] <debfx> can't they detect that the application is running in a debugger
[14:51] <Riddell> you can disable apport in /etc/default/apport
[14:51] <Riddell> I don't think there's any reliable way to detect that it's running in a debugger
[14:54] <shadeslayer> Riddell: are you going to akademy ?
[14:54] <Riddell> I am indeed
[14:55] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://akademy.kde.org/program/conference << where ?
[14:55] <shadeslayer> your not listed :P
[14:55] <debfx> Riddell: is it possible to disable apport temporarily through an env variable or something?
[14:56] <shadeslayer> debfx: see the file Riddell pointed too
[14:56] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I'm not giving a talk
[14:56] <shadeslayer> it has instructions on how to enable it temporarily.. switch 1 with 0 to disable temp.
[14:56] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ah ok :)
[14:57] <debfx> shadeslayer: temporarily meaning only for a process
[14:57] <shadeslayer> oh..
[14:58] <Riddell> debfx: I suspect not
[15:13] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1143381 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/PackageModel/PackageProxyModel.cpp SVN_SILENT: Remove outdated todo comment
[15:45] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1143385 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/PackageModel/PackageProxyModel.cpp Only invalidate the filter in setGroupFilter and SetStateFilter. We haven't messed with the internal package order (only search does that)
[16:17] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1143389 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/backend.cpp Reserve packageCount containers in memory before we populate d->packages, so that we can do one malloc instead of many
[16:23] <CIA-99> [kubuntu-notification-helper] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100627152313-tfk7xfj2c0o4zyad * src/daemon/ (event.cpp event.h) - Const correctness fixes for Event - Use QStringBuilder
[16:25] <CIA-99> [kubuntu-notification-helper] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100627152517-020ra54hlw4l3bpx * src/daemon/ (notificationhelpermodule.cpp notificationhelpermodule.h) Const correctness fix
[16:26] <CIA-99> [kubuntu-notification-helper] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100627152606-1ny510fina7cvufn * src/daemon/notificationhelpermodule.cpp We don't need to delete all these pointers in the destructor. They're all constructed as children of NotificationHelperModule, and will already be destroyed by QObject when NotificationHelperModule is destructed
[16:40] <CIA-99> [kubuntu-notification-helper] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100627154015-y86wdl9zfio9i6jy * src/daemon/hookevent/ (hook.cpp hook.h) Style fixes, const correctness fixes, QStringBuilder, and a bit less heap actionx
[16:43] <CIA-99> [kubuntu-notification-helper] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100627154311-2upg65shaqs9exg0 * src/daemon/hookevent/ (hookevent.cpp hookevent.h) -Don't leak Hooks. Clearing a Qt container won't delete the objects it contains -Const correct constructor
[16:57] <CIA-99> [kubuntu-notification-helper] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100627155733-89ww73akarekc8gl * src/daemon/ (8 files in 4 dirs) Misc const fixes across various Event subclasses
[17:01] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1143396 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/muon.desktop Update icon in .desktop file
[17:04] <shadeslayer> heh.. saw 2 kiosks in the market.. one was running suse and the other Ubuntu :P
[17:21] <valorie> "making communication with your peers not only convenient, but also ubiquitous available."
[17:21] <valorie> on the quassel page
[17:21] <valorie> pick one -- available or ubiquitous
[17:21] <valorie> you don't need both
[17:27] <gorgonizer> Is KDE SC 4.5 RC 1 available for testing?
[17:29] <neversfelde> it isn't released yet?
[17:30] <shadeslayer> gorgonizer: its upto Riddell to upload to main
[17:31] <shadeslayer> ~ninjas
[17:31] <kubotu> apachelogger, JontheEchidna, Lex79, neversfelde, nhandler, Riddell, ScottK, nixternal and Quintasan ... to the Batcave!
[17:31] <shadeslayer> oh apachelogger.... when will you add me to that list.... 
[17:31] <lex79> why you ping??
[17:31] <neversfelde> shadeslayer: ?
[17:32] <lex79> shadeslayer: you should use that command only when it's necessary
[17:32] <lex79> thanks
[17:32] <shadeslayer> lex79: ok
[17:32] <shadeslayer> sorry :(
[17:33] <neversfelde> shadeslayer: maybe, but please do not ping us without a reason
[17:33] <lex79> no problem, now you know :)
[17:33]  * lex79 returns to roll his cigarette
[17:34] <shadeslayer> 0_o
[18:06] <lex79> we have two plasma-widget-translatoid:
[18:06] <lex79> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-translatoid/1.20-0ubuntu1
[18:06] <lex79> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/translatoid/1.1-1
[18:09] <JontheEchidna> messy
[18:11] <lex79> btw is not good sync that package with Debian, they are too slow, in this moment the widget is broken due to changes in google api
[18:11] <lex79> I'm doing the new upstream release
[18:15] <ScottK> lex79: Let's use the Debian source package name and get the other one removed (even if we have a newer version)
[18:16] <lex79> right, I'm doing ;)
[18:16] <debfx> and maybe file an RC bug against the debian package :)
[18:17] <lex79> RC ?
[18:17] <debfx> release critical (high priority)
[18:18] <Tm_T> oh, indeed, KDE sc 4.5 RC1 is tagged, but not released?
[18:18] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: yep
[18:19] <shadeslayer> release is supposed to be tuesday
[18:19] <lex79> debfx: do it if you want, I care only for kubuntu packages
[18:21] <shadeslayer> :P
[18:25] <debfx> well I don't care much about random plasmoids :p
[18:25] <debfx> but I'll file the bug anyway
[18:26] <debfx> lex79: so translatoid fails without an error message?
[18:26] <lex79> thanks :)
[18:26] <lex79> yes, without it
[18:27] <debfx> nice
[18:27] <lex79> it's fixed in the release 1.30
[19:08] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1143404 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.h package.cpp package.h) Move two private functions to PackagePrivate
[19:16] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1143406 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/ (Messages.sh qaptbatch.cpp) - Switch-ify the questionOccurred function - Add Messages .sh
[19:18] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1143407 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/ (qaptbatch.cpp qaptbatch.h) - Add warning handler to qapt-batch - Work around KProgressDialog setting the button to closed once progress reaches 100 by never letting the progress actually hit 100 until the transaction is finished.
[19:18] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1143409 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp FetchError is now a more generic error that will have neither a FailedItem Nor ErrorText value in the details variantmap
[19:18] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1143410 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp FetchError is now a more generic error that will have neither a FailedItem nor ErrorText in the details QVariantMap
[19:19] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1143412 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp Handle a few more errors that the worker picked up
[19:24] <JontheEchidna> ^all about an hour late :P
[19:24] <Tm_T> JontheEchidna: if I have build issues with libqapt, interested to know?
[19:24] <JontheEchidna> Tm_T: yes
[19:25] <Tm_T> libqapt/src/backend.cpp:139: error: ‘class QApt::PackageList’ has no member named ‘reserve
[19:25] <JontheEchidna> hmmm
[19:26] <JontheEchidna> aha
[19:26] <JontheEchidna> http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qlist.html#reserve <- introduced in 4.7
[19:26] <JontheEchidna> will fix in a minute
[19:26] <Tm_T> (:
[19:32] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1143424 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/ (src/backend.cpp utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp) Only do the "reserve all needed space at once" optimization for the PackageList on Qt 4.7 or above.
[19:32] <JontheEchidna> Tm_T: ^
[19:32] <Tm_T> ye, I've got you more
[19:32] <Tm_T> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpolkit-qt-core-1
[19:33] <Tm_T> and I have built polkits stuff from kdesupport
[19:34] <JontheEchidna> :s
[19:34] <Tm_T> soo, I wonder if there's no right path added at some point
[19:38] <JontheEchidna> http://paste.ubuntu.com/456027/
[19:38] <JontheEchidna> Wonder if there's a macro I can use instead of a hard dependency on polkit-qt-core-1
[19:39] <JontheEchidna> Tm_T: so you're certain you have polkit-qt-1 and not plain polkit-qt?
[20:12] <debfx> ScottK: next qt 4.7 ftbfs fix: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/sqliteman_1.2.2-0ubuntu1.dsc
[20:13] <ScottK> debfx: Thanks.
[20:47] <ScottK> debfx: Uploaded.  Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu.
[20:52] <lex79> JontheEchidna: https://launchpad.net/~alessandro-ghersi/+archive/ppa/+packages
[21:01] <debfx> lex79: 01-dont-install-cmake-module.patch is from the ubuntu package
[21:02] <lex79> yes, shouldn't I add it?
[21:03] <debfx> the changelog says "taken from Debian"
[21:03] <lex79> ah :)
[21:03] <lex79> ok I fix
[21:03] <lex79> thanks
[21:04] <lex79> ops, already uploaded :D
[21:05] <debfx> ah, well it's not that important :)
[21:05] <lex79> I confuse the source package :(
[21:06] <lex79> *confused
[21:10] <neversfelde> RC1 is released
[21:12] <lex79> I copy the packages to beta backport
[21:16] <debfx> lex79: have you already filed a removal bug for plasma-widget-translatoid?
[21:16] <lex79> debfx: nope
[21:17] <lex79> go ahead
[21:23] <lex79> launchpad sucks, always in timeout
[21:26] <debfx> JontheEchidna: could you ack bug #599127
[21:45] <CIA-99> [messages] kristofk * 1143457 * trunk/l10n-kde4/hu/messages/ (5 files in 5 dirs) SVN_SILENT Updated Hungarian translation
[22:59] <blueyed> ktorrent 4.0.1-1ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1 appears to clash with the rc1 beta ppa (will get removed on upgrade).
[22:59] <blueyed> known problem?
[23:19] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1143487 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (8 files in 2 dirs) Split the MainTab code out from DetailsWidget. More tabs to follow. (Initializing all the tabs in the DetailsWidget constructor was making things a bit crowded)
[23:34] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1143489 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs) Split out the changelog tab into a ChangelogTab class
[23:38] <debfx> what are we going to do about libqt4-assistant?
[23:39] <debfx> I guess we need to package the 4.6.3 version
[23:39] <debfx> around 7 packages ftbfs because it's missing
[23:58] <lex79> debfx: I think F. Boudra is working on it in Debian