[00:15] <_ath> if anyone knows anything about xorg/fglrx, I'd appreciate it if they took a peek at this and, if they can provide it, give some advice: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1518556
[00:18] <TaskbarGone> James147:  Thanks for the kwallet info. :)
[00:24] <ocatacoo> does anyone know a decent resource on GSSAPI Authentication
[00:48] <TaskbarGone> Is there a way to mashup "apt-cache search <SearchTerm>" & "dpkg -l" - so that given a SearchTerm, it would find all the related package names in the cache, then do a "dpkg -l" on those package names?
[00:51] <Typos_King> hehe, wrong shot ^_^
[00:51] <Typos_King> crap, even wronger channel hehe
[00:52] <Typos_King> !restart
[00:52] <bazhang> Typos_King, please /msg ubottu
[00:53] <Typos_King> ohh, I can, thanks
[01:04] <sbdsr> .
[01:33] <_ath> To those with ati driver experience, please have a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1518556
[01:41] <andyis> hello?
[01:43] <andyis> heyo?
[01:43] <newboon2age> andyis: i'm here, but am a beginner at kubuntu.  what is your situation?
[01:44] <andyis> Oh, I am too. I was wondering if anyone could help me get the Opera Beta to work.
[01:45] <newboon2age> andyis: i probably won't be too much help, but why don't you describe where you're at...
[01:45] <andyis> Ah, ok. Well, nvm... I think I got it to work by going on a mirror to download it.
[01:46] <newboon2age> andyis: great. :)
[01:46] <andyis> thanks. You probably arent familiar with wine though right?
[01:47] <newboon2age> andyis: a little
[01:47] <newboon2age> andyis: i've played around w/ it some.  got some things working.
[01:47] <andyis> Yeah. There porobably isn't a way to get your dual-booted PC to just run stuff using wine on the windows side of the partition
[01:47] <andyis> that you know of
[01:47] <andyis> awesome :)
[01:49] <newboon2age> andyis: interesting question.  I could imagine it working.  PlayOnLinux gives a configuration for each windows program and maybe by using that???
[01:49] <andyis> And yeah, Opera is awesomely being awesome.
[01:50] <andyis> o/
[01:50] <andyis> o/ again
[01:50] <newboon2age> andyis: linux can see the windoze partition.  thing is i've only done it where i was installing the program through wine or through wine+playonlinux.
[01:51] <newboon2age> andyis: so if it didn't go through that install process I'm not sure how it would work.
[01:51] <andyis> ok.
[01:52] <andyis> I havent tried anything yet, but I have plenty of windows stuff I wouldn't mind NOT having to install again.
[01:52] <newboon2age> andyis: believe me I'm just a beginner w/ that too.  but i wouldn't be surprised if there was a #wine irc channel
[01:53] <andyis> Hmmm
[01:53] <andyis> Nope
[01:53] <newboon2age> andyis: i just looked it up.  There's one at #winehq
[01:53] <andyis> ah
[01:54] <andyis> lolyeah
[01:55] <newboon2age> andyis: good luck!  That'd be cool if it is possible.
[01:55] <andyis> yeah
[01:55] <andyis> Not going to go too far now, still ahve plenty of other stuff to try.
[01:55] <c3l> how do I reset all panel settings to plain default?
[01:55] <andyis> Hmmm
[01:57] <andyis> well
[01:58] <andyis> I can tell you the default values if you can tell me where this pannel settings is
[01:59] <cannonfodder> anyone herre get driftnet to work with wireless?
[01:59] <cannonfodder> ive got the aircrack-ng suite runnign just fine
[02:30] <Zeik> Does anyone know what would cause Cairo Dock to kill out the video playback in Dragon Player?
[02:59] <goodtime> its like nothing going on...
[03:02] <andyis> yea
[03:02] <andyis> No one says anything in half of these IRCs
[03:02] <Ezros> Hey, is anyone there to help me with a problem I am having with kubuntu?
[03:02] <andyis> whats your trouble?
[03:03] <Ezros> Well
[03:03] <Ezros> I am trying to play Heroes of Newerth
[03:03] <Ezros> And after loading into kubuntu for like...
[03:03] <Ezros> A minute or two
[03:03] <Ezros> I get a message saying windows thing is going slow, press ctrl alt f12 to resume
[03:03] <Ezros> And then I can't play HoN
[03:03] <andyis> hmmmm
[03:04] <Ezros> And then my screen freezes and blinks every so often
[03:04] <andyis> Is it a Linux specific version??
[03:04] <Ezros> Ya.
[03:04] <Ezros> I don't think it's a problem with the game
[03:04] <andyis> KK... Hmmm
[03:04] <Ezros> I think it's something with my hardware/kubuntu
[03:04] <andyis> Well, it would be a problem with
[03:04] <andyis> Yea
[03:05] <Ezros> But I can't figure out what
[03:05] <andyis> Yeah
[03:05] <Ezros> Is there any way to see a log that is causing the slowdown?
[03:05] <andyis> Its probably on the level of execution that theres a problem
[03:05] <andyis> Uhhh
[03:05] <andyis> 1sec
[03:06] <andyis> KK,
[03:06] <andyis> Go to your applications
[03:06] <andyis> System
[03:06] <andyis> System Logs
[03:06] <andyis> :P
[03:06] <FloodBotK3> andyis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:06] <andyis> Oh, sorry. My apologies
[03:07] <Ezros> There's a lot of logs here -_-
[03:08] <Ezros> "Compositing was too slow and has been suspended. If this was only a temporary problem, you can resume using the alt+shift+f12 shortcut"
[03:09] <andyis> Yeah. was that in the logs?
[03:09] <Ezros> I... don't know.
[03:09] <Ezros> There's a ton of stuff in the logs.
[03:09] <Ezros> Is there any way I can just send my logs to you? lol
[03:28] <andyis> And yeah
[03:28] <andyis> (@erzos) You take the log, select everything, copy/paste it into an email to acecipherzero@gmail.com
[03:30] <ner0x> How can I install wireless drivers with no internet connection? I have the .deb and the firmware it needs already on the system.
[03:31] <Ezros> andyis: why cant i write to my xorg.conf file?
[03:31] <andyis> Uhhhhhh.... I don
[03:31] <andyis> t know....
[03:31] <ner0x> It's a configuration error.
[03:31] <Ezros> I did it, damn I'm good
[03:31] <ner0x> andyis: Define "can't write it"
[03:32] <ner0x> Wrong person.
[03:32] <ner0x> And they figured it out. TWo negatives.
[03:32] <andyis> lol. There are worse things to happen.
[03:33] <Ezros> So I googled my problem
[03:34] <Ezros> And I think I fixed it
[03:34] <Ezros> I turned RenderAccel off in my xorg.conf
[03:34] <andyis> LOL, nice. Yay google!
[03:34] <Ezros> Nope
[03:34] <Ezros> Froze
[03:34] <Ezros> Heroes of Newerth just froze on me :(
[03:34] <andyis> :P
[03:34] <Ezros> Linux + graphics = fail.
[03:34] <andyis> Is it taking up too much memory or something?
[03:35] <Ezros> No idea
[03:36] <ner0x> Linux + graphics = just fine.
[03:36] <ner0x> Depending on the card.
[03:36] <Ezros> Lawl
[03:36] <Ezros> That's not what I like to hear.
[03:36] <jaksin> yeah, theres a ton of stuff the installer didnt pick up on mine
[03:36] <ner0x> Nvidia?
[03:36] <Ezros> I am using the hardware drivers video driver.
[03:36] <Ezros> Version "current"
[03:36] <jaksin> nero... howd u know?
[03:37] <ner0x> Won't necessarily detect it. Nvidia has great support though. Right from their website.
[03:37] <Ezros> Ya...
[03:37] <Ezros> I tried installing their drivers before.
[03:37] <Ezros> Totally borked my computer.
[03:37] <jaksin> look in my defense ladies and gentlemen... I had no idea about linux when i purchased my laptop
[03:37] <ner0x> Ezros: Been on linux long?
[03:37] <Ezros> Nope.
[03:38] <ner0x> Ezros: There's your sign. :)
[03:38] <Ezros> If you are trying to make an OS mainstream
[03:38] <Ezros> It's good to make it as user-friendly as possible.
[03:38] <ner0x> You can't make everything "dumb proof" or you sacrifice power.
[03:38] <jaksin> its not mainstream because people suffer from apathy
[03:38] <ner0x> And no, I didn't call you dumb.
[03:38] <Ezros> jacksin
[03:39] <Ezros> It's not apathy as much as people aren't masochists.
[03:39] <Ezros> Configuring every little thing for every single program = waste of time
[03:39] <jaksin> nobody wants to know what a shell is.... or sudo apt-get
[03:39] <Ezros> And is super annoying
[03:39] <ner0x> Ezros: You obviously have no idea what linux it. lol
[03:39] <Ezros> ner0x: I know plenty of what linux is.
[03:39] <Ezros> That's why I opted for Kubuntu
[03:39] <jaksin> I found out about linux and installed it within a week... just for the knowledge
[03:40] <andyis> lol
[03:40] <andyis> Shells are fun.
[03:40] <Ezros> It is an attempt at a user-friendly linux OS.
[03:40] <ner0x> Ezros: If you have to configure every program, then no, you do not.
[03:40] <jaksin> well kubuntu has less support and funding than ubuntu.. right?
[03:40] <jaksin> so i.e more bugs?
[03:40] <Ezros> I was using an exaggeration to prove a opint, ner0x.
[03:40] <ner0x> FIrst, it's a distro, not an OS.
[03:40] <Ezros> Whatever.
[03:40] <ner0x> Second, just because the learning curve is steep doesn't mean it isn't worth it.
[03:41] <Ezros> When did I say that.
[03:41] <Ezros> I know that it has max potential.
[03:41] <ner0x> You spoke of a "user friendly" "OS"
[03:41] <Ezros> But that max potential is pretty much not obtainable by the majority.
[03:41] <jaksin> I took a weeks vacation just to sit at home and drink mt dew while i played on ubuntu
[03:41] <ner0x> Ezros: Only for the dumb. :)
[03:41] <ner0x> Ezros: So, google the shit out of everything. lol
[03:41] <Ezros> It has nothing to do with being dumb.
[03:42] <Ezros> That is hyper-inconvenient.
[03:42] <ner0x> If you can read, you can learn linux.
[03:42] <andyis> Lol, what happens when the majority are dumb?
[03:42] <Ezros> And most people don't want to be bothered.
[03:42] <ner0x> andyis: You use windows. :)
[03:42] <andyis> I ALSO use windows.
[03:42] <Ezros> If you have to jump through a loop of fire to get your system to work, it's really inconvenient.
[03:42] <ner0x> Ezros: It takes me 5 minutes to get a system up and running.
[03:42] <jaksin> actually.... the standardized iq tests say that the gen pop reached their max iq in the early to mid 90s
[03:42] <andyis> But there is no reason why people cant use both like me
[03:42] <jaksin> and now our intelligence is declining
[03:43] <Ezros> ner0x: You are not the average user.
[03:43] <jaksin> I use 7 and ubuntu
[03:43] <Ezros> The common case must be the one that is used, otherwise there's no point.
[03:43] <Ezros> I can say that a god would just make his own OS.
[03:43] <Ezros> And it would be a joke
[03:43] <Ezros> With full support
[03:43] <andyis> Same jaksin
[03:43] <ner0x> Ezros: My point is, I used to be. Just as lost as everyone else. Keep at it, it gets easier.
[03:44] <Ezros> Ya, obviously.
[03:44] <Ezros> But it's just annoying.
[03:44] <jaksin> I actually downloaded kubuntu, but didnt really like the GUI
[03:44] <ner0x> Ezros: Then don't use it. lol
[03:44] <andyis> lol
[03:44] <Ezros> And if I really wanted to learn linux, why would I use kubuntu?
[03:44] <Ezros> Why not use Gentoo.
[03:44] <andyis> Android is the perfect Linux OS
[03:44] <jaksin> praise the words nero..lol
[03:44] <ner0x> Haha you think Kubuntu is hard don't even think about gentoo.
[03:44] <Ezros> Linux is linux.
[03:44] <andyis> Ezros: So that you don't nuke everything within 5 minutes.
[03:44] <ner0x> Ezros: Of course, distros greatly differ though.
[03:45] <Ezros> Kubuntu nukes stuff within 5 minutes.
[03:45] <andyis> :P
[03:45] <jaksin> hey, i understand the curve is steep, thats how i roll tho holmz
[03:45] <Ezros> I understand that the learning curve is steep
[03:45] <Ezros> But it should be easier.
[03:45] <ner0x> No?
[03:45] <Ezros> There is no point for a common user to have to know linux.
[03:45] <andyis> Eh
[03:45] <ner0x> True, it's not for the common user.
[03:46] <ner0x> Kubuntu, Ubuntu, SuSe, mandriva, etc.
[03:46] <ner0x> All make it easier.
[03:46] <jaksin> hahaha and thats what linux users wanna hear. it keeps their community; Small, effective, and intelligent. without all the stay at home dads hitting up the irc to ask how to change their tcp/ip settings
[03:46] <Ezros> Then it loses out on a comparative scale of other OSes.
[03:46] <ner0x> Gentoo is cutting edge compile everything.
[03:46] <ner0x> Ezros: For personal computing. How many webservers do you think actually run a windows product?
[03:46] <Ezros> Eh, that depends.
[03:47] <jaksin> 30%
[03:47] <andyis> LOL
[03:47] <Ezros> A lot, I would say.
[03:47] <ner0x> Or database server, or a render farm. Or anything for computational mathematics/comp sci
[03:47] <andyis> 88% are Linux servers
[03:47] <ner0x> Ezros: You need to read more.
[03:47] <Ezros> No.
[03:47] <andyis> Syup
[03:47] <Ezros> It entirely depends on the situation.
[03:47] <andyis> Ayup*
[03:47] <jaksin> 12% home use in linux and almost 80% business use
[03:47] <Ezros> That's fine.
[03:47] <ner0x> Okay. The situation is the world. And linux runs the server department.
[03:47] <andyis> Yeah
[03:47] <BenPA> hi all need help with screwed up video on 10.04 I made changes to special effects and now I cannot boot into x11 how do I repair it
[03:48] <Ezros> That's fine, ner0x
[03:48] <ner0x> BenPA: What graphics card?
[03:48] <jaksin> ask one of them!!!
[03:48] <andyis> Ok, what is screwed up in the special effects?
[03:48] <Ezros> But if linux wants to branch out, it needs to become more user friendly.
[03:48] <Ezros> That is my point.
[03:48] <BenPA> ner0x :how can I tell
[03:48] <Ezros> If it doesn't want to branch out, that's fine.
[03:48] <andyis> well,what did you change?
[03:48] <Ezros> But that is incredibly stupid.
[03:48] <jaksin> this is still actually my first day with ubuntu running as my dual boot instead of cd boot
[03:48] <ner0x> BenPA: You should know your graphics card?
[03:48] <ner0x> jaksin: Dual boot for gaming?
[03:48] <andyis> LOL jaskin
[03:49] <jaksin> no my dual boot is cuz i produce dubstep and i like my flxxl 9 studio
[03:49] <andyis> LOL, dual boot for functionality. f.lux, Notepad++, yeah...
[03:49] <ner0x> Ezros: Linux is stronger than ever without "branching out". Because the people who want the power will do the reading. Simple enough.
[03:49] <ner0x> jaksin: Don't need a dual boot for that.
[03:49] <jaksin> nero... 100% dude
[03:49] <BenPA> ner0x : sorry it's not my machine bud
[03:49] <andyis> I think we should all get Android :P Then we will all be able to use linux and be better off for it.
[03:50] <jaksin> I know, i read about the in system things and wine.
[03:50] <jaksin> im getting there man
[03:50] <andyis> Or if iOS could help people get used to unix-like OSes
[03:50] <jaksin> i promise
[03:50] <jaksin> its only been a day
[03:50] <FloodBotK3> jaksin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:50] <BenPA> ner0x : sorry it's rare I ever have this problem
[03:50] <ner0x> BenPA: It's cool. do an "lspci" and see if it mentions your card.
[03:50] <ner0x> jaksin: VirtualBox for the win.
[03:50] <jaksin> yeah, virtualbox
[03:51] <andyis> Hmmm
[03:51] <ner0x> jaksin: A fill windows environment "native".
[03:51] <andyis> What exactly does virtualbox do?
[03:51] <BenPA> ner0x : I just booted into the windows cause I dual booted the darn thing
[03:51] <ner0x> andyis: Lets you install other OSes on top of linux/ma
[03:51] <andyis> ... :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd
[03:51] <andyis> But is it slow?
[03:51] <ner0x> andyis: How long is a piece of string?
[03:52] <jaksin> I really wanted to just dual boot, since i do have 500g to just toss around. for now ne ways.
[03:52] <ner0x> BenPA: Can you figure out the card on that side?
[03:52] <andyis> yeah. Either way kubuntu doesnt recognise my built in wireless hardware on my labtop
[03:52] <andyis> Ben
[03:53] <andyis> Go into system it should say something
[03:53] <ner0x> andyis: It does if you use the "hardware driver" setting.
[03:53] <jaksin> I had to configure it in kubuntu, but not in ubuntu
[03:53] <andyis> Hmmmm
[03:53] <ner0x> jaksin: Different maintainers.
[03:53] <andyis> lol
[03:53] <ner0x> andyis: It's as fast as your machine will allow it to be.
[03:53] <jaksin> see, you guys are comp wizards... I'm working on it fellas
[03:53] <andyis> Also nerox, where do I get to that menu?
[03:53] <jaksin> lol
[03:54] <andyis> Ah ok.
[03:54] <ner0x> For me, it's only slightly slower than native install.
[03:54] <ner0x> jaksin: Kubuntu -> Applications -> System -> Hardware Drivers
[03:54] <ner0x> Sorry andyis*
[03:55] <ner0x> andyis: If you have a good amount of ram, you can run anything. :)
[03:55] <jaksin> its ok, i wiped kubuntu from the drive and reinstalled with ubu
[03:55] <andyis> OK, awesome. Shoudl 4GB be good
[03:55] <andyis> ?/*
[03:55] <ner0x> Depends on the OS your installing.
[03:56] <ner0x> Vista or 7 you'll be cutting it closer.
[03:56] <BenPA> ner0x : Intel 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV GRAPHICS CONTROLLER
[03:56] <ner0x> BenPA: Onboard integrated intel. Blah.
[03:56] <andyis> nerox, (HUG) THANK YOU
[03:57] <ner0x> andyis: Do read up on it first.
[03:57] <andyis> ah ok.
[03:57] <andyis> Integrated intel isn't the worst :P
[03:57] <andyis> OK
[03:57] <ner0x> Radeon is. :)
[03:57] <jaksin> isnt radeon supported?
[03:57] <ner0x> BenPA: It should be auto-detected. What does "Kubuntu -> Applications -> Systems -> Hardware Drivers" say?
[03:57] <BenPA> ner0x : UGH should I disspare
[03:58] <BenPA> ner0x : it won't boot to anything but a prompt
[03:58] <andyis> Hmmm
[03:58] <ner0x> BenPA: Did you get through an install?
[03:58] <BenPA> ner0x : oh yes
[03:59] <BenPA> ner0x : only boots to a tty2
[03:59] <ner0x> BenPA: Type "X -configure" in a shell.
[03:59] <andyis> nerox, do you know how to get to the windows side of a partition in bash?
[04:00] <ner0x> andyis: Depends on which disk it's install on. You won't be able to write to that partition.
[04:00] <BenPA> ner0x : hold a sec ner0x
[04:00] <jaksin> the ubuntu disc has gparted on it, u could use that
[04:00] <andyis> Hmmm
[04:01] <jaksin> gparted is how I erased kub and put ubu on
[04:02] <BenPA> ner0x : ok I had to use sudo
[04:02] <ner0x> BenPA: That's fine. Did it work?
[04:03] <andyis> heyo?
[04:03] <jaksin> wheres the yayo
[04:04] <ner0x> andyis: jaksin: Either of you program?
[04:04] <BenPA> ner0x : it said to run X -config /home/name/xorg.conf.new and it didnt work
[04:04] <jaksin> no, i just downloaded some software to help me learn
[04:04] <ner0x> jaksin: Help you learn what?
[04:04] <jaksin> how to read and write program code
[04:05] <ner0x> jaksin: Uh... what kind?
[04:05] <ner0x> BenPA: Hm... What was the error?
[04:05] <andyis> oi
[04:05] <jaksin> theyre applets on linux
[04:05] <ner0x> jaksin: What language?
[04:05] <ner0x> jaksin: Better question, what languages do you know?
[04:06] <jaksin> i dont know any
[04:06] <ner0x> Then you aren't writing any applets any time soon. lol
[04:06] <jaksin> im teaching myself html, python, and perl right now
[04:06] <andyis> Also, if I use both the hardware wireless and a USB wireless adapter to connect to wifi, will I get more bandwith?
[04:06] <BenPA> ner0x : fatal server error .... failed to submit batchbuffer: Input/output error
[04:06] <jaksin> nooo nero, i downloaded it
[04:06] <andyis> lol, what if we know HTML, CSS, and shell script?
[04:07] <andyis> oyo, that isnt good
[04:08] <jaksin> oh andy, i read an article on that the other day. using an old wireless box as a slave to boost your main one
[04:09] <andyis> lol. this is just the receiver.
[04:09] <jaksin> oh
[04:09] <andyis> Yeah. Do you think it would work? I have both active
[04:10] <andyis> hmmmm
[04:10] <jaksin> dont you think one would trumph the other?? sorta like when you have ethernet plugged and wireless on, it chooses the fastest
[04:10] <andyis> No, not on linux. It uses both.
[04:10] <andyis> Oh
[04:10] <andyis> Yeah, you are right.
[04:11] <andyis> And well, good
[04:11] <jaksin> i have tried to screw comcast for an extra bit or 2
[04:11] <andyis> The hardware reciever is faster.
[04:11] <andyis> lol
[04:11] <andyis> ....
[04:12] <jaksin> so how long did it take you to learn program languages?
[04:12] <andyis> What if you have 2 different wifi networks that you are connected to? This might be worth investigation...
[04:12] <jaksin> that is worth investigation
[04:12] <andyis> Well, HTML I learned by working with it, its part of my job.
[04:13] <andyis> Just play around with new features on a webpage. if you dont ahve a webpage opera has some kinda server thingy
[04:13] <BenPA> ner0x : can I reinstall X11 somehow?
[04:13] <jaksin> should be a download under the apps ubuntu software dropdown
[04:14] <BenPA> jaskin : I only have a prompt
[04:14] <andyis> ...dammit
[04:14] <andyis> ok
[04:14] <andyis> nvm
[04:14] <jaksin> geezus
[04:15] <jaksin> andyis: you try the 2 networks set up?
[04:15] <andyis> Doing so now
[04:15] <andyis> Im using my droid to make another wireless network, forgot to turn wii on for a second
[04:16] <jaksin> lol... lemme know how that goes. Im interested
[04:17] <andyis> Oh wow
[04:17] <andyis> OK, I have successfully connected both different hookups to different wifis
[04:17] <andyis> OK one is up...
[04:18] <andyis> Yeah, this connection might take a while... its only a phone with 2Mbps connection
[04:18] <andyis> Nope, not with the weak wireless it looks like
[04:19] <andyis> hmmm gonna try to swap hardware, retrying...
[04:22] <andyis> :P oh, its the netgear USB stick thats making the slow 1mbps connection
[04:23] <andyis> ok
[04:23] <andyis> nope, was just a bad wifi connection. Will have to find another router...
[04:24] <andyis> ie, phone wifi didn't work.
[04:25] <jaksin> thats crap man, so I googled the wireless bridge and its all over the place, on apcmag and home computing. give it a look see
[04:26] <andyis> Yeah kk
[04:26] <andyis> Wait, was that at me jaksin?
[04:26] <jaksin> yeah
[04:27] <andyis> OK, I will
[04:27] <jaksin> how do you guys do that? make your letters turn red? that means its private or at least directed at someone huh?
[04:27] <andyis> Did I just do it?
[04:28] <jaksin> yep, you do it out of habit, and i cant do it at all. thats a broad spectrum
[04:30] <andyis> I dont know how I do... it doesnt display that way for me.
[04:31] <jaksin> crazy
[04:31] <andyis> yea
[04:35] <andyis> OK, does anyone know how I can find out which version of the OS I am using is 32 bit or 64 bit?
[04:36] <jaksin> are you in windows or linux?
[04:36] <andyis> linux
[04:36] <andyis> I know Im using 64 bit in Win7. If not I will slap someone
[04:37] <jaksin> lol system>admin>system monitor
[04:39] <jaksin> oops... that doesnt work
[04:39] <andyis> yeah
[04:40] <jaksin> im running the 32bit ubuntu. My chipset supposedly doesnt run the 64 bit
[04:41] <andyis> Hm
[04:41] <andyis> Mine came preinstalled with 64 bit vista, so I know mine CAN run it.
[04:41] <jaksin> well that may not be true
[04:42] <andyis> well does anyone know what wubi installs it as?
[04:42] <jaksin> I thought the same thing until i installed the kubuntu 64
[04:43] <jaksin> the wubi would install it just how you clicked to download it i assume
[04:43] <andyis> Hmmm
[04:44] <jaksin> you dont remember which one you clicked when u hit download?
[04:44] <jaksin> I would say, since you seem to prefer the 64 bit, u installed the 64 bit.
[04:45] <andyis> Well, wubi didnt have an option
[04:46] <jaksin> the wubi you downloaded onto your desktop? You click your choice of 32 or 64 before you download it to desktop
[04:46] <andyis> Hmm, I downloaded it through wubi...
[04:47] <andyis> It seems to prefer the 32-bit, so i shall try that. If not I will try to download 64-bit skype
[04:47] <jaksin> oh.. see i got mine from kubuntu.org but it still said wubi when i scrolled over it on my window in windows
[04:49] <andyis> :P
[04:49] <andyis> Hm
[04:50] <andyis> Do you know the IRC stuff for this specific room? Adress is irc.freenode.net yes?
[04:50] <jaksin> yep
[04:52] <andyis> KK.Any idea on the port?
[04:52] <andyis> ...
[04:52] <andyis> I am using a labtop :P
[04:54] <andyis>             huh
[04:55] <andyis> what do you know, I am using 64 bit :)
[04:57] <katcita> hi
[04:57] <andyis> o/
[04:58] <katcita> it says here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx I need to activate the module in 'System > Administration > Hardware Drivers'
[04:58] <katcita> where would that be in kubuntu?
[04:59] <andyis> well, you go to the K wiht the gear in the bottom left of the screen
[04:59] <andyis> That is the system
[04:59] <sidHart> katcita: you just install b43-fwcutter
[05:00] <andyis> then go to the administration tab in the bottom of that bar
[05:00] <andyis> And go to hardware drivers in that menu.
[05:00] <andyis> Simple :) just activate everything and youre good to go
[05:00] <katcita> andyis: I just installed bcmwl-kernel-source as it says on that page, should I remove it?
[05:00] <andyis> Uhhh... since it says kernel, I wouldn't/
[05:01] <andyis> IDK how experienced you are, or how well versed you are in computer science, but your kernel is really sorta important >.>
[05:03] <andyis> Oh, katcita, you have to go to the system directory after administration
[05:03] <katcita> andyis: ok, I did what you said and it's downloading and installling fwcutter, I guess I did the right thing
[05:03] <andyis> yeah :) I actually had the same problem earlier
[05:04] <katcita> andyis: ok I'll reboot because I think kernel updates need that
[05:04] <katcita> brb and thanls
[05:04] <andyis> Yeha, it does. Welcome
[05:04] <katcita> thanks*
[05:14] <katcita> yay
[05:20] <andyis> it works? good.
[05:23] <katcita> yep
[05:24] <katcita> the firefox installer says it's already installed, but when I start firefox it starts the installer
[05:32] <katcita> another bug, I chose to 'login and decrypt
[05:32] <katcita> oops
[05:33] <katcita> another bug, I chose to 'login and decrypt home directory' during installation, now when I login from kdm it doesn't work, I need to open a console sessions and login from there first, then kdm will work
[05:41] <andyis> hmmmm
[05:41] <andyis> I don't know quite how to fix that.
[05:41] <andyis> Anyways, I will now restart to work on the toehr side of my partition. Nights all
[07:44] <eagles0513875> hey guys whats a good app for website development
[07:44] <bazhang> eagles0513875, like dreamweaver?
[07:44] <eagles0513875> ya
[07:44] <bazhang> aptana studio
[07:44] <eagles0513875> thank you
[07:45] <bazhang> no problem
[07:45] <eagles0513875> it doesnt exist in the repos does it
[07:46] <bazhang> nope
[07:49] <eagles0513875> bazhang: is that due to its licensing
[07:49] <bazhang> eagles0513875, not sure, sorry
[07:49] <eagles0513875> no worries
[07:49] <eagles0513875> might be something else to consider packaging for upstream as well as ubuntu
[07:56] <eagles0513875> bazhang: this is interesting you can get it as a plugin for eclipse instead of downloading the whole studio
[08:39] <Geli> hello
[08:40] <Geli> anybody knows about running 10.04 netbook edition in MSI wind U100 (cmpatibility etc.)
[08:40] <Geli> i'm just foun about 9.x
[08:40] <Geli> but 10.04 nowhere
[09:10] <Geli> noone?
[09:33] <_ath> To those with ati driver experience, please have a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1518556To those with ati driver experience, please have a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1518556
[09:35] <choppa> hello, i've installed kubuntu on some toshiba laptop, but the wired network card has not been detected, what can i do?
[10:27] <choppa> hi, i've just installed kubuntu 10.04 but my wired network card (interface eth0) is not detected; also i don't have a /boot/grub/menu.lst but i don't know if that's the problem
[10:35] <fabcal> join
[10:41] <skramer_> choppa: a fresh install of 10.04 comes with grub2 which IMHO does not have a /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:06] <fabcal> hi everybody
[12:16] <talesbunw> hmm
[12:16] <talesbunw> guys
[12:20] <talesbunw> there is who can help me? please, i have a problem, I installed Kubuntu 32bit 10.04 and using ATI HD4890 and then installed ATI Catalyst 10.6 oh nicely installed, but no enabled compositing , so then no visual effect and slowly, idk whats wrong with it , my point is , it was fine before Catalyst 10.6 ... Kubuntu 10.04 dont supporting Catalyst 10.6??
[13:36] <James147> anyone knoticed kaffeine not displaying videos on kde 4.5 beta? Dragon player works fine and kaffeine worked on 4.4.x
[13:38] <toshi> hi, i've just installed kubuntu 10.04, but i have a proble with knetworkmanager (or nm-applet) whenever i try to connect on wifi it fails; if i try on ethernet, and then ask to connect on wifi, then it succeeds (same behavior on knetworkamanager and nm-applet); how can i avoid this? :(
[13:39] <me> hi!
[13:39] <James147> toshi: you can try wicd instead of NetworkManager
[13:40] <toshi> James147: thanks i'll try and tell you
[13:41] <toshi> James147: should i use 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 from ppa?
[13:41] <James147> toshi: 4.4.4 will have more bugfixes in it
[13:52] <slow-motion> hi
[13:55] <__Adam__> hello, i just updated from 9.04 to 9.10 now i can not accept inbound connections
[14:07] <__Adam__> hello, i just updated from 9.04 to 9.10 now i can not accept inbound connections
[14:13] <CQ> hello, I have a MSI g45m mainboard (ms7521) with intel chipset and don't get any audio... any ideas?
[14:14] <James147> !sound | CQ
[14:15] <CQ> more info here ... http://pastebin.com/DZXFx2cC
[14:15] <CQ> James147: thanks, I'll have a look
[14:20] <__Adam__> why cant i accept inbound connections anymore :(
[14:20] <James147> __Adam__: connections from what?
[14:21] <__Adam__> any other device to my kubuntu box running http server etc
[14:21] <__Adam__> i cant even ping it
[14:22] <__Adam__> it was fine in 9.04 then i upgraded to 9.10
[14:22] <James147> __Adam__: is the box able to ping your other boxes?
[14:23] <__Adam__> yes outbound is fine
[14:24] <CQ> here's the error message... sudo aplay gives the same result ... any ideas? http://pastebin.com/c876whDn
[14:24] <James147> __Adam__: do you have the firewall enabled?
[14:24] <__Adam__> not that i am aware of
[14:24] <__Adam__> is there one which is enabled by default in 9.10?
[14:24] <CQ> __Adam__: upgrade to 10.04 and see what happens?
[14:25] <James147> __Adam__: dont think its enabled by default
[14:25] <James147> !ufw | __Adam__
[14:25] <__Adam__> ufw is disabled according to ufw status
[14:27] <__Adam__> so why has updating to 9.10 screwed up my inbound connections?
[14:28] <James147> __Adam__: Dont see why it would :S are you pinning the right ip?
[14:29] <__Adam__> yes
[14:29] <__Adam__> you can try viewing www.witwicki.co.uk if you like
[14:32] <James147> can acess that site fine
[14:32]  * __Adam__ blinks
[14:34] <__Adam__> then i have a new problem
[14:35] <__Adam__> i cant access the box from the internal network
[14:35] <__Adam__> that is really odd
[14:39] <__Adam__> t
[14:39] <__Adam__> ta
[14:39] <kleopatra> hi lokking for the file where struct task_struct is defined, cant find it in /usr/include/linux/sched.h
[15:08] <alan> Hi! When i run the user account management tool in kubuntu, the "add" and "modify" buttons are not active and i cannot click them. I believe this is because i am not running it with root privileges, can somebody help me?
[15:10] <James147> alan: what version of kubuntu and kde are you using?
[15:11] <alan> James147, kubuntu 10.4, i believe it is kde 4.3 or something
[15:12] <James147> alan: 10.04 should have 4.4... how are you running the account manager?
[15:13] <alan> James147, i just installed kubuntu, the account manager tool is installed out of the box
[15:14] <James147> alan: are you running it from system settings?
[15:14] <alan> i think running it with sudo from the command line would work but i don't know what the command is xD
[15:14] <alan> alakoo, yes :P
[15:14] <alan> err no
[15:14] <alan> James147, yes, i'm running it from the system settings
[15:14] <James147> alan: try it from sys settings (i think its nder the advanced tab)
[15:15] <alan> James147, awesome :D it asked for my password and i can add users now, thanks
[15:53] <acer_> hello
[16:41] <niteye> when i try to set a transparent desktop background in konsole or xchat it says that i use a noncompliant desktop that doesn't support it
[16:42] <niteye> even though it's pretty much kubuntu with KDE4 vanilla
[16:42] <niteye> with propriatery drivers for 2D acceleration
[16:42] <James147> niteye: are desktop effects enabled? (and transparency?)
[16:42]  * niteye goes check
[16:44] <niteye> it's enabled, but it says "Compositing is temporarily disabled", i clicked on resume compositing, let's see if it works now
[16:44] <niteye> now it works!
[16:45] <georges-albert> :links
[16:53] <appleman> jersey girls rule!
[17:07] <appleman> whats a good IRC client for ubuntu that has most of ircs servers already built in and rdy to connect to?
[17:12] <BluesKaj> appleman, kvirc
[17:14] <lfaraone> I'm copying some files in Dolphin from a compact disk into a folder in tmp and every time I attempt it Dolphin crashes. As I go to report the bug, I find there are no debugging symbols for Dolphin in Ubuntu. How should I go about getting them?
[17:16] <BluesKaj> appleman, due it's (IMO) ugly graphics I removed quassel, not sure if it auto-lists irc servers or not
[17:22] <appleman> thanks bluekaj
[18:44] <slow-motion> re
[18:48] <kynarion> hi there
[18:56] <kynarion> im trying to build my own kernel, but i get a kernel panic while booting; the last message is something like please give working root= parameter / unrecognised block device on hda(0,0)
[18:57] <kynarion> i'm kinda surprised to see that, because the this kernel gets the same parameter all working generic kernels do
[19:00] <kynarion> i thought i could have misconfigured the kernel, so i tried an oldconfig build without any changes
[19:00] <kynarion> -> same error
[19:03] <nerdy_kid> what package do i install to get policykit configuration in systemsettings? thanks :)
[19:05] <James147> nerdy_kid: last I heard they where migrating to a newer version that dosent have a gui front end yet... although that was last version.
[19:07] <nerdy_kid> James147 ah ok.  dont really need it, but was kinda wandering what happened to it.  thanks :)
[19:08] <nerdy_kid> how do i add encoders to the audio io slave? i currently have mp3 and ogg but looking for flac.
[19:39] <DarthFrog> nerdy_kid: Use "apt-cache search <pattern>" to find what
[19:39] <DarthFrog> 's available.
[19:40] <DarthFrog> i.e. apt-cache search flac
[19:49] <nerdy_kid> DarthFrog ive used synaptics search function, i have the flac program/encoder installed, but i still dont see it in the audio cd io config section of systemsettings
[19:49] <RobertLaptop> Morning at least in the US.  I just reinstalled my Kubuntu laptop from scratch using 10.04 and 1st thing I did was start and update but noticed a notification of additional support items like flash but after the reboot the notification went a way.  What program is that so I can bring it back up?
[19:51] <James147> RobertLaptop: Just install kubuntu-restricted-extras to get everything it would install
[19:51] <RobertLaptop> Thanks James147
[20:00] <uday> hi would this be the right place to ask questions about a failed upgrade to 9.1 ubuntu?
[20:01] <DarthFrog> uday: For Ubuntu support, you'll want to "/join #ubuntu",
[20:02] <LeeJunFan> Why does every dolphin add-on I try to add from the services menu add-on installer fail?
[20:03] <James147> LeeJunFan: what add-ons are you trying to install?
[20:03] <LeeJunFan> James147: service menu add on's like mountiso, attach to thunderbird, etc. Right click actions.
[20:04] <LeeJunFan> James147: if you go to dolphin settings under services, you can "Download new services", always fails.
[20:04] <James147> LeeJunFan: what version of kde are you using?
[20:05] <LeeJunFan> James147: 4.4.4
[20:05] <LeeJunFan> James147: does it work for you? If so I'll try with a new user and then figure out which config file is hosed.
[20:06] <James147> LeeJunFan: dosnt see to be working here either (kde 4.5 beta)
[20:07] <LeeJunFan> James147: okay, thanks. It has NEVER worked for me, I keep thinking it will get fixed, and never does.
[20:07] <James147> LeeJunFan: you should be able to go to kde-look.org (or kde-apps... cant remember which one does the service menus) get the ones you want and install them manually
[20:08] <LeeJunFan> James147: yeah, I've done that with others, would just be nice if that one-click solution worked.
[20:08] <James147> LeeJunFan: they have been improving on the get new stuff thing for a while, its working better in other application then it use to
[20:20] <salvo> hi
[20:20] <_2> anyone know some hotkey that works after device selection and before kernel loading  ?    i can't boot either of the 10.4 install cd's
[20:21] <_2> wow....   ^C   did it.      heh  now i got to the boot menu in the install CD
[20:24] <DexterF> hi
[20:25] <DexterF> got 2 identical monitors and an nvidia gf9500 card with two heads. I want the same picture on both monitors. possible? if: how?
[20:25] <DexterF> proprietary driver
[20:30] <James147> DexterF: you can do that in nvidia-settings
[20:36] <Dweamer> Hi, all!
[20:36] <Dweamer> Anyoune can help with XFS?
[20:39] <DexterF> James147: yup, thanks
[20:54] <pgeyleg> can anyone help with grub?
[20:55] <pgeyleg> i reinstalled windows and my linux boot menu is gone
[20:55] <ikonia> pgeyleg: you need to re-apply grub
[20:55] <ikonia> !grub2 > pgeyleg
[20:56] <BluesKaj> !grub | pgeyleg
[20:56] <ikonia> pgeyleg: check the link ubottu just pm'd you
[20:57] <pgeyleg> alrite, i am ruuning 10.4
[20:57] <pgeyleg> i ran the live cd
[21:02] <pgeyleg> So my previous linux version wsas 8.04, so does that mean i cannot use live cd with 10.4??
[21:31] <lmojzis> Hi, i have Kubuntu, but this is generic KDE issue. I added my ftp server to network places in dolphin, authenticated and saved password to wallet. Whenever i try to edit anything with kate, it keeps on asking me to enter password for the server, but in the auth dialog, password is already written in and even remember box is checked. I tried to delete passwords from KWallet, but after i save it in the wallet again, it repeat. It does not ask when i hit CTRL-
[22:01] <raindog> kdm will lot let me select another session.  This is driving me nuts.
[22:03] <draik> Hello everyone.
[22:04] <draik> Are there any apps for learning Japanese?
[22:06] <James147> draik: kiten is probally the closest your going to get to one
[22:07] <draik> James147: Thanks. I'll give that a try.
[22:12] <glauce> how can I remove wallpapers downloaded through system-settings from de hdd?
[22:12] <glauce> where are them?
[22:13] <DarthFrog> glauce: Right-click on the desktop, and poke around in settings.
[22:13] <bendersteed> They're in /usr/share/wallpapers/
[22:13] <glauce> bendersteed: let me see...
[22:13] <amichair> maybe ~/.kde/share/wallpapers
[22:14] <glauce> amichair:  that's it! =)
[22:15] <amichair> glauce: :-)
[22:15] <DNSmith> How to register my nickname i can't find anything in help ?
[22:15] <Unksi>  /msg nickserv help
[22:15] <DNSmith> hah tnx :)
[22:15] <Unksi> yw :)
[22:17] <amichair> DNSmith: or http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[22:17] <georges-albert> #namurlug
[22:18] <georges-albert> join #namurlug
[22:20] <nUboon2Age> newbie question: i just turned on my (pretty new) kubuntu wubi installation and for some reason it says 'network management disabled' although it was working earlier this morning.  What do i do to reenable it?
[22:22] <James147> nUboon2Age: stop networkmanager  then edit /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state so that "NetworkingEnabled=true" is true not false then start networkmanager again
[22:23] <nUboon2Age> James147: ty, i'll try that. once again you're a great help
[22:23] <DNSmith> cs help
[23:47] <amichair> what's the difference between network-manager-kde and plasma-widget-networkmanagement?