[00:15] <_ath> if anyone knows anything about xorg/fglrx, I'd appreciate it if they took a peek at this and, if they can provide it, give some advice: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1518556 [00:18] James147: Thanks for the kwallet info. :) [00:24] does anyone know a decent resource on GSSAPI Authentication [00:48] Is there a way to mashup "apt-cache search " & "dpkg -l" - so that given a SearchTerm, it would find all the related package names in the cache, then do a "dpkg -l" on those package names? [00:51] hehe, wrong shot ^_^ [00:51] crap, even wronger channel hehe [00:52] !restart [00:52] Typos_King, please /msg ubottu [00:53] ohh, I can, thanks [01:04] . [01:33] <_ath> To those with ati driver experience, please have a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1518556 [01:41] hello? [01:43] heyo? [01:43] andyis: i'm here, but am a beginner at kubuntu. what is your situation? [01:44] Oh, I am too. I was wondering if anyone could help me get the Opera Beta to work. [01:45] andyis: i probably won't be too much help, but why don't you describe where you're at... [01:45] Ah, ok. Well, nvm... I think I got it to work by going on a mirror to download it. [01:46] andyis: great. :) [01:46] thanks. You probably arent familiar with wine though right? [01:47] andyis: a little [01:47] andyis: i've played around w/ it some. got some things working. [01:47] Yeah. There porobably isn't a way to get your dual-booted PC to just run stuff using wine on the windows side of the partition [01:47] that you know of [01:47] awesome :) [01:49] andyis: interesting question. I could imagine it working. PlayOnLinux gives a configuration for each windows program and maybe by using that??? [01:49] And yeah, Opera is awesomely being awesome. [01:50] o/ [01:50] o/ again [01:50] andyis: linux can see the windoze partition. thing is i've only done it where i was installing the program through wine or through wine+playonlinux. [01:51] andyis: so if it didn't go through that install process I'm not sure how it would work. [01:51] ok. [01:52] I havent tried anything yet, but I have plenty of windows stuff I wouldn't mind NOT having to install again. [01:52] andyis: believe me I'm just a beginner w/ that too. but i wouldn't be surprised if there was a #wine irc channel [01:53] Hmmm [01:53] Nope [01:53] andyis: i just looked it up. There's one at #winehq [01:53] ah [01:54] lolyeah [01:55] andyis: good luck! That'd be cool if it is possible. [01:55] yeah [01:55] Not going to go too far now, still ahve plenty of other stuff to try. [01:55] how do I reset all panel settings to plain default? [01:55] Hmmm [01:57] well [01:58] I can tell you the default values if you can tell me where this pannel settings is [01:59] anyone herre get driftnet to work with wireless? [01:59] ive got the aircrack-ng suite runnign just fine === cannonfodder is now known as spetznaz === spetznaz is now known as smigladof === smigladof is now known as smuggles [02:30] Does anyone know what would cause Cairo Dock to kill out the video playback in Dragon Player? === daniel is now known as DanielEads [02:59] its like nothing going on... [03:02] yea [03:02] No one says anything in half of these IRCs [03:02] Hey, is anyone there to help me with a problem I am having with kubuntu? [03:02] whats your trouble? [03:03] Well [03:03] I am trying to play Heroes of Newerth [03:03] And after loading into kubuntu for like... [03:03] A minute or two [03:03] I get a message saying windows thing is going slow, press ctrl alt f12 to resume [03:03] And then I can't play HoN [03:03] hmmmm [03:04] And then my screen freezes and blinks every so often [03:04] Is it a Linux specific version?? [03:04] Ya. [03:04] I don't think it's a problem with the game [03:04] KK... Hmmm [03:04] I think it's something with my hardware/kubuntu [03:04] Well, it would be a problem with [03:04] Yea [03:05] But I can't figure out what [03:05] Yeah [03:05] Is there any way to see a log that is causing the slowdown? [03:05] Its probably on the level of execution that theres a problem [03:05] Uhhh [03:05] 1sec [03:06] KK, [03:06] Go to your applications [03:06] System [03:06] System Logs [03:06] :P [03:06] andyis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [03:06] Oh, sorry. My apologies [03:07] There's a lot of logs here -_- [03:08] "Compositing was too slow and has been suspended. If this was only a temporary problem, you can resume using the alt+shift+f12 shortcut" [03:09] Yeah. was that in the logs? [03:09] I... don't know. [03:09] There's a ton of stuff in the logs. [03:09] Is there any way I can just send my logs to you? lol [03:28] And yeah [03:28] (@erzos) You take the log, select everything, copy/paste it into an email to acecipherzero@gmail.com [03:30] How can I install wireless drivers with no internet connection? I have the .deb and the firmware it needs already on the system. [03:31] andyis: why cant i write to my xorg.conf file? [03:31] Uhhhhhh.... I don [03:31] t know.... [03:31] It's a configuration error. [03:31] I did it, damn I'm good [03:31] andyis: Define "can't write it" [03:32] Wrong person. [03:32] And they figured it out. TWo negatives. [03:32] lol. There are worse things to happen. [03:33] So I googled my problem [03:34] And I think I fixed it [03:34] I turned RenderAccel off in my xorg.conf [03:34] LOL, nice. Yay google! [03:34] Nope [03:34] Froze [03:34] Heroes of Newerth just froze on me :( [03:34] :P [03:34] Linux + graphics = fail. [03:34] Is it taking up too much memory or something? [03:35] No idea [03:36] Linux + graphics = just fine. [03:36] Depending on the card. [03:36] Lawl [03:36] That's not what I like to hear. [03:36] yeah, theres a ton of stuff the installer didnt pick up on mine [03:36] Nvidia? [03:36] I am using the hardware drivers video driver. [03:36] Version "current" [03:36] nero... howd u know? [03:37] Won't necessarily detect it. Nvidia has great support though. Right from their website. [03:37] Ya... [03:37] I tried installing their drivers before. [03:37] Totally borked my computer. [03:37] look in my defense ladies and gentlemen... I had no idea about linux when i purchased my laptop [03:37] Ezros: Been on linux long? [03:37] Nope. [03:38] Ezros: There's your sign. :) [03:38] If you are trying to make an OS mainstream [03:38] It's good to make it as user-friendly as possible. [03:38] You can't make everything "dumb proof" or you sacrifice power. [03:38] its not mainstream because people suffer from apathy [03:38] And no, I didn't call you dumb. [03:38] jacksin [03:39] It's not apathy as much as people aren't masochists. [03:39] Configuring every little thing for every single program = waste of time [03:39] nobody wants to know what a shell is.... or sudo apt-get [03:39] And is super annoying [03:39] Ezros: You obviously have no idea what linux it. lol [03:39] ner0x: I know plenty of what linux is. [03:39] That's why I opted for Kubuntu [03:39] I found out about linux and installed it within a week... just for the knowledge [03:40] lol [03:40] Shells are fun. [03:40] It is an attempt at a user-friendly linux OS. [03:40] Ezros: If you have to configure every program, then no, you do not. [03:40] well kubuntu has less support and funding than ubuntu.. right? [03:40] so i.e more bugs? [03:40] I was using an exaggeration to prove a opint, ner0x. [03:40] FIrst, it's a distro, not an OS. [03:40] Whatever. [03:40] Second, just because the learning curve is steep doesn't mean it isn't worth it. [03:41] When did I say that. [03:41] I know that it has max potential. [03:41] You spoke of a "user friendly" "OS" [03:41] But that max potential is pretty much not obtainable by the majority. [03:41] I took a weeks vacation just to sit at home and drink mt dew while i played on ubuntu [03:41] Ezros: Only for the dumb. :) [03:41] Ezros: So, google the shit out of everything. lol [03:41] It has nothing to do with being dumb. [03:42] That is hyper-inconvenient. [03:42] If you can read, you can learn linux. [03:42] Lol, what happens when the majority are dumb? [03:42] And most people don't want to be bothered. [03:42] andyis: You use windows. :) [03:42] I ALSO use windows. [03:42] If you have to jump through a loop of fire to get your system to work, it's really inconvenient. [03:42] Ezros: It takes me 5 minutes to get a system up and running. [03:42] actually.... the standardized iq tests say that the gen pop reached their max iq in the early to mid 90s [03:42] But there is no reason why people cant use both like me [03:42] and now our intelligence is declining [03:43] ner0x: You are not the average user. [03:43] I use 7 and ubuntu [03:43] The common case must be the one that is used, otherwise there's no point. [03:43] I can say that a god would just make his own OS. [03:43] And it would be a joke [03:43] With full support [03:43] Same jaksin [03:43] Ezros: My point is, I used to be. Just as lost as everyone else. Keep at it, it gets easier. [03:44] Ya, obviously. [03:44] But it's just annoying. [03:44] I actually downloaded kubuntu, but didnt really like the GUI [03:44] Ezros: Then don't use it. lol [03:44] lol [03:44] And if I really wanted to learn linux, why would I use kubuntu? [03:44] Why not use Gentoo. [03:44] Android is the perfect Linux OS [03:44] praise the words nero..lol [03:44] Haha you think Kubuntu is hard don't even think about gentoo. [03:44] Linux is linux. [03:44] Ezros: So that you don't nuke everything within 5 minutes. [03:44] Ezros: Of course, distros greatly differ though. [03:45] Kubuntu nukes stuff within 5 minutes. [03:45] :P [03:45] hey, i understand the curve is steep, thats how i roll tho holmz [03:45] I understand that the learning curve is steep [03:45] But it should be easier. [03:45] No? [03:45] There is no point for a common user to have to know linux. [03:45] Eh [03:45] True, it's not for the common user. [03:46] Kubuntu, Ubuntu, SuSe, mandriva, etc. [03:46] All make it easier. [03:46] hahaha and thats what linux users wanna hear. it keeps their community; Small, effective, and intelligent. without all the stay at home dads hitting up the irc to ask how to change their tcp/ip settings [03:46] Then it loses out on a comparative scale of other OSes. [03:46] Gentoo is cutting edge compile everything. [03:46] Ezros: For personal computing. How many webservers do you think actually run a windows product? [03:46] Eh, that depends. [03:47] 30% [03:47] LOL [03:47] A lot, I would say. [03:47] Or database server, or a render farm. Or anything for computational mathematics/comp sci [03:47] 88% are Linux servers [03:47] Ezros: You need to read more. [03:47] No. [03:47] Syup [03:47] It entirely depends on the situation. [03:47] Ayup* [03:47] 12% home use in linux and almost 80% business use [03:47] That's fine. [03:47] Okay. The situation is the world. And linux runs the server department. [03:47] Yeah [03:47] hi all need help with screwed up video on 10.04 I made changes to special effects and now I cannot boot into x11 how do I repair it [03:48] That's fine, ner0x [03:48] BenPA: What graphics card? [03:48] ask one of them!!! [03:48] Ok, what is screwed up in the special effects? [03:48] But if linux wants to branch out, it needs to become more user friendly. [03:48] That is my point. [03:48] ner0x :how can I tell [03:48] If it doesn't want to branch out, that's fine. [03:48] well,what did you change? [03:48] But that is incredibly stupid. [03:48] this is still actually my first day with ubuntu running as my dual boot instead of cd boot [03:48] BenPA: You should know your graphics card? [03:48] jaksin: Dual boot for gaming? [03:48] LOL jaskin [03:49] no my dual boot is cuz i produce dubstep and i like my flxxl 9 studio [03:49] LOL, dual boot for functionality. f.lux, Notepad++, yeah... [03:49] Ezros: Linux is stronger than ever without "branching out". Because the people who want the power will do the reading. Simple enough. [03:49] jaksin: Don't need a dual boot for that. [03:49] nero... 100% dude [03:49] ner0x : sorry it's not my machine bud [03:49] I think we should all get Android :P Then we will all be able to use linux and be better off for it. [03:50] I know, i read about the in system things and wine. [03:50] im getting there man [03:50] Or if iOS could help people get used to unix-like OSes [03:50] i promise [03:50] its only been a day [03:50] jaksin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [03:50] ner0x : sorry it's rare I ever have this problem [03:50] BenPA: It's cool. do an "lspci" and see if it mentions your card. [03:50] jaksin: VirtualBox for the win. [03:50] yeah, virtualbox [03:51] Hmmm [03:51] jaksin: A fill windows environment "native". [03:51] What exactly does virtualbox do? [03:51] ner0x : I just booted into the windows cause I dual booted the darn thing [03:51] andyis: Lets you install other OSes on top of linux/ma [03:51] ... :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd [03:51] But is it slow? [03:51] andyis: How long is a piece of string? [03:52] I really wanted to just dual boot, since i do have 500g to just toss around. for now ne ways. [03:52] BenPA: Can you figure out the card on that side? [03:52] yeah. Either way kubuntu doesnt recognise my built in wireless hardware on my labtop [03:52] Ben [03:53] Go into system it should say something [03:53] andyis: It does if you use the "hardware driver" setting. [03:53] I had to configure it in kubuntu, but not in ubuntu [03:53] Hmmmm [03:53] jaksin: Different maintainers. [03:53] lol [03:53] andyis: It's as fast as your machine will allow it to be. [03:53] see, you guys are comp wizards... I'm working on it fellas [03:53] Also nerox, where do I get to that menu? [03:53] lol [03:54] Ah ok. [03:54] For me, it's only slightly slower than native install. [03:54] jaksin: Kubuntu -> Applications -> System -> Hardware Drivers [03:54] Sorry andyis* [03:55] andyis: If you have a good amount of ram, you can run anything. :) [03:55] its ok, i wiped kubuntu from the drive and reinstalled with ubu [03:55] OK, awesome. Shoudl 4GB be good [03:55] ?/* [03:55] Depends on the OS your installing. [03:56] Vista or 7 you'll be cutting it closer. [03:56] ner0x : Intel 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV GRAPHICS CONTROLLER [03:56] BenPA: Onboard integrated intel. Blah. [03:56] nerox, (HUG) THANK YOU [03:57] andyis: Do read up on it first. [03:57] ah ok. [03:57] Integrated intel isn't the worst :P [03:57] OK [03:57] Radeon is. :) [03:57] isnt radeon supported? [03:57] BenPA: It should be auto-detected. What does "Kubuntu -> Applications -> Systems -> Hardware Drivers" say? [03:57] ner0x : UGH should I disspare [03:58] ner0x : it won't boot to anything but a prompt [03:58] Hmmm [03:58] BenPA: Did you get through an install? [03:58] ner0x : oh yes [03:59] ner0x : only boots to a tty2 [03:59] BenPA: Type "X -configure" in a shell. [03:59] nerox, do you know how to get to the windows side of a partition in bash? [04:00] andyis: Depends on which disk it's install on. You won't be able to write to that partition. [04:00] ner0x : hold a sec ner0x [04:00] the ubuntu disc has gparted on it, u could use that [04:00] Hmmm [04:01] gparted is how I erased kub and put ubu on [04:02] ner0x : ok I had to use sudo [04:02] BenPA: That's fine. Did it work? [04:03] heyo? [04:03] wheres the yayo [04:04] andyis: jaksin: Either of you program? [04:04] ner0x : it said to run X -config /home/name/xorg.conf.new and it didnt work [04:04] no, i just downloaded some software to help me learn [04:04] jaksin: Help you learn what? [04:04] how to read and write program code [04:05] jaksin: Uh... what kind? [04:05] BenPA: Hm... What was the error? [04:05] oi [04:05] theyre applets on linux [04:05] jaksin: What language? [04:05] jaksin: Better question, what languages do you know? [04:06] i dont know any [04:06] Then you aren't writing any applets any time soon. lol [04:06] im teaching myself html, python, and perl right now [04:06] Also, if I use both the hardware wireless and a USB wireless adapter to connect to wifi, will I get more bandwith? [04:06] ner0x : fatal server error .... failed to submit batchbuffer: Input/output error [04:06] nooo nero, i downloaded it [04:06] lol, what if we know HTML, CSS, and shell script? [04:07] oyo, that isnt good [04:08] oh andy, i read an article on that the other day. using an old wireless box as a slave to boost your main one [04:09] lol. this is just the receiver. [04:09] oh [04:09] Yeah. Do you think it would work? I have both active [04:10] hmmmm [04:10] dont you think one would trumph the other?? sorta like when you have ethernet plugged and wireless on, it chooses the fastest [04:10] No, not on linux. It uses both. [04:10] Oh [04:10] Yeah, you are right. [04:11] And well, good [04:11] i have tried to screw comcast for an extra bit or 2 [04:11] The hardware reciever is faster. [04:11] lol [04:11] .... [04:12] so how long did it take you to learn program languages? [04:12] What if you have 2 different wifi networks that you are connected to? This might be worth investigation... [04:12] that is worth investigation [04:12] Well, HTML I learned by working with it, its part of my job. [04:13] Just play around with new features on a webpage. if you dont ahve a webpage opera has some kinda server thingy [04:13] ner0x : can I reinstall X11 somehow? [04:13] should be a download under the apps ubuntu software dropdown [04:14] jaskin : I only have a prompt [04:14] ...dammit [04:14] ok [04:14] nvm [04:14] geezus [04:15] andyis: you try the 2 networks set up? [04:15] Doing so now [04:15] Im using my droid to make another wireless network, forgot to turn wii on for a second [04:16] lol... lemme know how that goes. Im interested [04:17] Oh wow [04:17] OK, I have successfully connected both different hookups to different wifis [04:17] OK one is up... [04:18] Yeah, this connection might take a while... its only a phone with 2Mbps connection [04:18] Nope, not with the weak wireless it looks like [04:19] hmmm gonna try to swap hardware, retrying... [04:22] :P oh, its the netgear USB stick thats making the slow 1mbps connection [04:23] ok [04:23] nope, was just a bad wifi connection. Will have to find another router... [04:24] ie, phone wifi didn't work. [04:25] thats crap man, so I googled the wireless bridge and its all over the place, on apcmag and home computing. give it a look see [04:26] Yeah kk [04:26] Wait, was that at me jaksin? [04:26] yeah [04:27] OK, I will [04:27] how do you guys do that? make your letters turn red? that means its private or at least directed at someone huh? [04:27] Did I just do it? [04:28] yep, you do it out of habit, and i cant do it at all. thats a broad spectrum [04:30] I dont know how I do... it doesnt display that way for me. [04:31] crazy === CQ_ is now known as CQ [04:31] yea [04:35] OK, does anyone know how I can find out which version of the OS I am using is 32 bit or 64 bit? [04:36] are you in windows or linux? [04:36] linux [04:36] I know Im using 64 bit in Win7. If not I will slap someone [04:37] lol system>admin>system monitor [04:39] oops... that doesnt work [04:39] yeah [04:40] im running the 32bit ubuntu. My chipset supposedly doesnt run the 64 bit [04:41] Hm [04:41] Mine came preinstalled with 64 bit vista, so I know mine CAN run it. [04:41] well that may not be true [04:42] well does anyone know what wubi installs it as? [04:42] I thought the same thing until i installed the kubuntu 64 [04:43] the wubi would install it just how you clicked to download it i assume [04:43] Hmmm [04:44] you dont remember which one you clicked when u hit download? [04:44] I would say, since you seem to prefer the 64 bit, u installed the 64 bit. [04:45] Well, wubi didnt have an option [04:46] the wubi you downloaded onto your desktop? You click your choice of 32 or 64 before you download it to desktop [04:46]