| === marcos_ is now known as Daekdroom | ||
| leagris | Got a Fritz!BOX 7270 replacing the asthmatic Livebox from Orange. I am so impressed Work like a charm with Ubuntu or any Linux. Everything from IPv6, SIP phone line, DECT station, fast wireless. Good job from the Germans AVM. | 00:14 |
|---|---|---|
| leagris | Downloads reach 2500Kb/s instead of the almost 1100Kb/s from the crapware rented à 3€/months. | 00:16 |
| penguin42 | you have a DSL provider that does IPv6 ? | 00:16 |
| leagris | penguin42, used to with nerim, but now just using SIXXS | 00:16 |
| Daekdroom | 3euros/month for 1100kb/s ? O.o | 00:17 |
| leagris | penguin42, do a /whois leagris | 00:17 |
| Daekdroom | That is cheap. | 00:17 |
| penguin42 | yeh I saw it was IPv6 | 00:17 |
| leagris | Daekdroom, only for renting their box. DSL line subscription is 39€/months | 00:17 |
| Daekdroom | Oh. | 00:17 |
| Daekdroom | Well, still sort of cheap. | 00:17 |
| leagris | short line of 700m | 00:18 |
| leagris | got near the maximum of ADSL2+ ATM rate with low errors | 00:18 |
| leagris | their Livebox synked at same ATM speed but the cheap CPU heavily limited usable IP bandwidth. | 00:19 |
| Daekdroom | I understand you, I used to run a USB ADSL modem over USB 1.1 D: | 00:20 |
| penguin42 | Daekdroom: One of the old stingray/frog alcatels? | 00:34 |
| Daekdroom | penguin42, Yeah! | 00:35 |
| penguin42 | yeh I used that for a while | 00:35 |
| Daekdroom | I still have it somewhere in here. | 00:35 |
| Daekdroom | It looks like an oversized mouse :P | 00:35 |
| leagris | :) | 00:36 |
| leagris | Alcatel merged with Lucent, seems they no longer brand end-user modems now. | 00:37 |
| leagris | sorry for the long OT, was meant to ubuntu-offtopic ;D | 00:49 |
| penguin42 | is anyone running maverick in a VM system other than kvm? | 00:52 |
| Lostwf | Hello all | 02:10 |
| Lostwf | Can any one point me to where i can find the pool for maverick meerkat? I have tried archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu and I still need 214 files to complete my iso | 02:11 |
| BUGabundo | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror | 02:12 |
| BUGabundo | (2010-06-26 22:23:32) jpds: debmirror lets one specify --arch'es and --releases if I recall correctly. | 02:12 |
| BUGabundo | Lostwf: try that | 02:12 |
| Lostwf | Thanks BUGd will try | 02:13 |
| Lostwf | Does debmirror download the complete pool for the release? | 02:16 |
| BUGabundo | eewwww | 02:19 |
| BUGabundo | VLC just memory leaked :( | 02:19 |
| BUGabundo | Lostwf: it should, I think | 02:19 |
| Lostwf | I dont have enough bandwith limit to download the whole pool. I just need some (200) files which are not in the current archive pool to complete the iso that I am downloading via jigdo | 02:20 |
| BUGabundo | why don't you use zsync intead? | 02:23 |
| CrazyHyena | hello | 02:47 |
| CrazyHyena | will the next version of ubuntu continue to be lightweight in resource usage? | 02:48 |
| alex_mayorga | how do I get a listing of bluetooth devices paired to the computer with mac addresses? | 04:22 |
| psusi | is anyone else still having the issue with the bluetooth and power manager icons showing up all the time, or did it get fixed? | 04:29 |
| DanaG | alex_mayorga: you can ask bluez over dbus. | 04:52 |
| DanaG | do "pidof bluetoothd"... and then a dbus send I'm digging up. | 04:53 |
| DanaG | argh, I've forgotten what the command was... | 04:55 |
| DanaG | dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.bluez /org/bluez/22211/hci0 org.bluez.Adapter.ListDevices | 04:55 |
| DanaG | where 22211 is the pid of bluetoothd. | 04:55 |
| DanaG | And for each device, you can | 04:56 |
| DanaG | dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.bluez /org/bluez/22211/hci0/dev_00_02_72_A9_2B_03 org.bluez.Device.GetProperties | 04:56 |
| alex_mayorga | DanaG: is "00_02_72_A9_2B_03" the MAC address? | 05:09 |
| DanaG | yeah. | 05:10 |
| DanaG | You can get the full device string from the ListDevices. | 05:10 |
| alex_mayorga | DanaG: guess I'm messing up at some point | 05:12 |
| alex_mayorga | dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.bluez /org/bluez/1205/hci0 org.bluez.Adapter.ListDevices | 05:12 |
| alex_mayorga | gets me Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "ListDevices" with signature "" on interface "org.bluez.Adapter" doesn't exist | 05:13 |
| DanaG | hmm. | 05:13 |
| DanaG | try installing d-feet, and you can dig around in the stuff Bluez is offering. | 05:14 |
| DanaG | It's also possible you have hci1 instead of hci0. | 05:14 |
| alex_mayorga | installing d-feet | 05:15 |
| DanaG | Bluez is on the "system" bus. | 05:15 |
| alex_mayorga | DanaG: thanks, really appreciated hopefully I could be able to extract the mac address of my stolen bluetooth devices :( | 05:16 |
| DanaG | argh, this new Unity thing, in my experience, seems to only have a panel on the left side. | 05:16 |
| alex_mayorga | is d-feet a gui? | 05:16 |
| DanaG | Yeah. | 05:16 |
| alex_mayorga | Bus Address? | 05:17 |
| DanaG | Go in the File menu... there's "system" there. | 05:18 |
| DanaG | Yeah, that UI seems to suck. | 05:18 |
| DanaG | No button for "system" | 05:18 |
| alex_mayorga | seems I had the pid wrong | 05:19 |
| alex_mayorga | why might that be? | 05:19 |
| alex_mayorga | ps -fea | grep bluetoothdroot 1205 1 0 21:14 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/bluetoothd --udev | 05:19 |
| alex_mayorga | but object paths are /org/bluez/1203/hci0 | 05:20 |
| alex_mayorga | is that a bug? | 05:20 |
| DanaG | ah. weird. | 05:22 |
| DanaG | That IS weird. | 05:22 |
| DanaG | ah, all I get when running Unity is a panel on the left. | 05:23 |
| alex_mayorga | DanaG: Thanks immensely I found the address | 05:25 |
| alex_mayorga | I think being unable of seeing the MAC address in the GUI is a gnome-bluetooth bug, your take? | 05:25 |
| DanaG | Probably a "feature". | 05:26 |
| DanaG | Keep things simple.... to the point of uselessness. | 05:26 |
| DanaG | With gnome-bluetooth: Okay, I've paired my device. Now what can I do with it? | 05:27 |
| DanaG | With gnome-bluetooth, the answer is approximately "nothing". | 05:27 |
| DanaG | Try "blueman" instead -- it actually lets you CONNECT to devices -- imagine that! | 05:27 |
| alex_mayorga | yep, BTW does 10.10 now does 3G over bluetooth? | 05:27 |
| alex_mayorga | finding it hard to do on 10.04 | 05:28 |
| DanaG | Blueman can probably do it even in Lucid. | 05:28 |
| alex_mayorga | can they co-exist? | 05:28 |
| DanaG | I'm not sure. | 05:28 |
| DanaG | Looks like the main repo blueman can coexist with gnome-bluetooth. | 05:29 |
| DanaG | argh, stupid unity... demands using Mutter. Well, I want to use Compiz. | 05:34 |
| coz_ | DanaG, :) too bad it wont happen :) | 05:35 |
| DanaG | I say, things shouldn't be that tightly integrated... it's the sort of thing my classes have said are bad design. | 05:35 |
| coz_ | DanaG, ah perhaps you are correct... I personally would rather run compiz but... being a netbook...doesnt that automatically mean fewer resources at hand yes ? | 05:36 |
| DanaG | I have compiz tweaked to be reasonable. No wobbly on the netbook. | 05:36 |
| DanaG | Lamp animations for minimize and menu create/destroy. "dream" for window-create, and "sidekick" for window close. | 05:37 |
| coz_ | eeww no wobbly?? I forget what static windows feel like :) | 05:37 |
| DanaG | Or wait, maybe I re-enabled that. | 05:37 |
| DanaG | Yeah, I think I did... the other "snapping" is way too forceful. | 05:37 |
| DanaG | Oh, and random gripe: try pressing arrow keys while using a touchpad. | 05:38 |
| DanaG | Apparently arrow keys are considered "typing". | 05:38 |
| DanaG | It disables the touchpad. | 05:38 |
| DanaG | Good luck typing anything with just arrow keys. | 05:38 |
| coz_ | :) | 05:38 |
| DanaG | ↑←←→↑↓↓↓←→↑→→→←↓ | 05:38 |
| coz_ | DanaG, I have been playing with kde's netbook edition much nicer than gnome's << my opinion | 05:38 |
| coz_ | DanaG, compiz doesnt seem to disable there but of not much use it seems | 05:39 |
| DanaG | Last time I tried KDE, it was too bulky for my liking. | 05:39 |
| coz_ | but let me check again hold on while I 'scoot" over to the maverick machine | 05:39 |
| coz_ | DanaG, the beta kde is really and I am a kde hater :) | 05:39 |
| DanaG | Oh, and bulky != bloaty. | 05:40 |
| DanaG | Bulk is "too many pixels". | 05:40 |
| DanaG | I'll try KDE on the netbook. | 05:40 |
| DanaG | heh, my GDM panel is too wide for my netbook's screen. | 05:41 |
| DanaG | Gets cut off at "sh (United States)" | 05:41 |
| DanaG | And the accessibility "tray" icon overlaps the right dropdown. | 05:41 |
| coz_ | DanaG, yeah compiz stays enabled with kde's beta netbook at least here it does | 05:42 |
| DanaG | And kwin is nice enough on its own that, worst case, it's better than Mutter, for sure. | 05:43 |
| coz_ | DanaG, well I was surprised at kde netbook.. it is nice looking...nothing off screen no crowding etc etc | 05:45 |
| DanaG | weird... somehow my KDE gets a gnome panel. | 05:49 |
| DanaG | ah, it's in autostart. | 05:51 |
| DanaG | site: your valid user. username: (text box). password: (text box). | 05:55 |
| DanaG | What is that? | 05:55 |
| DanaG | Argh, if I hold it in the exposé thingy, I see two windows appear, disappear, appear, disappear, appear, disappear, appear, disappear, appear, disappear | 05:56 |
| DanaG | ah, fixed it by cleaning out autostart. | 05:57 |
| DanaG | What is "this site"? | 05:58 |
| DanaG | it wants me to log into something. | 05:58 |
| coz_ | DanaG, in the netbook? | 06:00 |
| DanaG | Yeah. | 06:00 |
| coz_ | DanaG, not sure other than maybe bug reports | 06:00 |
| DanaG | http://dot.kde.org/2009/05/01/social-desktop-starts-arrive | 06:00 |
| coz_ | DanaG, seems to happen here each time I log into netbook | 06:00 |
| coz_ | oh! | 06:01 |
| coz_ | DanaG, the interface is much nicer yes? | 06:01 |
| coz_ | well it is 1am here...need to go to bed | 06:03 |
| DanaG | ugh, system monitor widget is buggy... it keeps spazzing between small and big. | 06:06 |
| DanaG | ugh, yeah, netbook thingy is buggy. | 06:09 |
| DanaG | wow, this "netbook" session is lame... there's a menu button that does nothing, and a blank desktop. | 06:25 |
| DanaG | How useless. | 06:32 |
| DanaG | And alt-f2 doesn't work. And there's no "terminal" shortcut. | 06:32 |
| DanaG | argh, what a broken shell. There's no way to start anything that's not on the list on the left! | 07:01 |
| Jordan_U | DanaG: I think it's safe to say that you are outside the target demographic :) | 07:40 |
| szonek | hi | 09:15 |
| szonek | i have a problem installing 10.04 on fakeraid, i know this bug was fixed lately (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/grub-installer/+bug/568050), is there any ISO that integrates this fix? | 09:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 568050 in grub-installer (Ubuntu Lucid) "Ubuntu 10.04 can't create partition on fakeraid" [Undecided,New] | 09:15 |
| ikonia | szonek: 10.04 support is in #ubuntu - not #ubuntu+1 | 09:16 |
| szonek | yeah i know.. i tried to find 10.04 daily builds or something like that but all i found was daily builds for 10.10 | 09:17 |
| szonek | so i thougt i can make sure there is none daily builds for 10.04 | 09:17 |
| ikonia | ok - so again, 10.04 support is in #ubuntu - not #ubuntu+1 | 09:18 |
| szonek | okay okay | 09:18 |
| Fudge | heh | 11:37 |
| sylon | why does kernel modesetting actually increase CPU usage when playing video in xine and cause artifacts? also increases CPU usage in gstreamer based players to the point where video stutters, i thought KMS was supposed to fix tearing issues with video... I have a X2300 RV535 radeon by the way | 12:17 |
| BUGabundo | morning | 12:35 |
| Ian_corne | hello | 12:35 |
| DrHalan | hey all | 14:32 |
| penguin42 | fun bug that's in Maverick (from 2.6.35) - the sysrq code is a bit screwy - so you can trigger a reboot by doing; press&release right-alt, p&r print-screen, p&r b | 15:29 |
| Daekdroom | What the? | 15:32 |
| penguin42 | I noticed on lkml and just gave it a go on my maverick install | 15:33 |
| IdleOne | penguin42: alt-F2 triggered a reboot for me about 2 days ago :/ | 15:47 |
| penguin42 | IdleOne: It may be unrelated, but if sometime previously you had used printscreen and b .... | 15:48 |
| IdleOne | penguin42: could be. my kitten has been having a good old time irc'ing lately | 15:49 |
| penguin42 | they seem to be very good at that | 15:49 |
| IdleOne | actually my computer did not reboot. it locked up. I had to hit the reset button to get it to reboot | 15:50 |
| penguin42 | oh, that's a different case | 15:50 |
| IdleOne | keyboard lights were flashing | 15:50 |
| penguin42 | that was a panic | 15:50 |
| IdleOne | mouse and kb were not responsive | 15:50 |
| IdleOne | but it seemed to happen when I did alt-F2 | 15:51 |
| penguin42 | quite possibly triggered something | 15:51 |
| IdleOne | Temporary solution: don't do alt-F2 | 15:52 |
| IdleOne | :) | 15:52 |
| BUGabundo | [12631.533610] ata6: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x990000 action 0xe frozen | 16:00 |
| BUGabundo | [12638.313896] EXT2-fs (sdb1): previous I/O error to superblock detected | 16:00 |
| BUGabundo | not in a good luck week | 16:00 |
| penguin42 | ah | 16:02 |
| BUGabundo | Long Live MPLAYER.... | 17:08 |
| BUGabundo | since mplayer is sooo broken | 17:08 |
| BUGabundo | and gstreamer too that even vlc memory leaks | 17:08 |
| BUGabundo | mplayer keeps going and going and going.... and going | 17:09 |
| dupondje | SD cards broken ? | 18:26 |
| dupondje | Got command interrupt 0x00030000 even though no command operation was in progress. | 18:26 |
| * penguin42 finds something fixed in Maverick! dcraw's new version can read my cameras files | 18:42 | |
| DanaG | ARGH! | 19:38 |
| DanaG | Somehow I'm ending up with /dev/fb0 being uvesafb, and /dev/fb1 being radondrmfb. | 19:39 |
| DanaG | And gdm isn't even trying to start. | 19:39 |
| knittl | hi, why is xulrunner-1.9.2 kept back? | 19:41 |
| DanaG | ARGH! | 19:46 |
| DanaG | On a fresh install, why is gdm not even trying to start? | 19:46 |
| om26er | knittl, because you are using the development release of ubuntu. :) | 19:50 |
| knittl | om26er: lol ^^ | 19:50 |
| knittl | i'm aware of that | 19:50 |
| knittl | it's been almost a week now, that's why i ask. usually i can remove some other packages | 19:50 |
| DrHalan | how do i get non-free packagse for maverick? | 19:51 |
| DrHalan | https://launchpad.net/medibuntu/maverick | 19:51 |
| DrHalan | meidbuntu seems to have nothing yet.. | 19:51 |
| DanaG | "Use default (generic) configuration" | 20:00 |
| DanaG | I press OK on that, it takes me nowhere but where I just was. | 20:00 |
| DanaG | It's insisting on going into failsafe mode, yet the "view log file" is ENTIRELY EMPTY! | 20:00 |
| dupondje | DrHalan: lucid packages may work | 20:01 |
| dupondje | medibuntu gets in @ beta1 normally | 20:01 |
| DrHalan | mh i have the lucid packages still installed so they dont i guess | 20:01 |
| DrHalan | mh beta1 is stil a long way to go | 20:03 |
| DrHalan | mplayer works atleast | 20:03 |
| DanaG | AT+GCAP | 20:06 |
| DanaG | something keeps writing that to my serial console. | 20:06 |
| DanaG | AT+GCAP | 20:06 |
| DanaG | AT+GCAP | 20:06 |
| SwedeMike | http://www.anotherurl.com/library/at_test.htm says it's fax related | 20:07 |
| guntbert | DanaG: that something tries to talk to a modem | 20:09 |
| DanaG | yeah, looks like it's NetworkManager. | 20:09 |
| DanaG | It does it exactly 3 times every boot. | 20:10 |
| DrHalan | are we already in freeze for alpha 2? | 20:15 |
| mxe5 | Installed 10.4 on a friends computer - Been a few months since I installed the correct version of Java for Frostwire to work - anyone help on this? | 20:41 |
| penguin42 | mxe5: This channel is for Maverick (10.10) - try #ubuntu please | 20:42 |
| mxe5 | oh ok - sorry | 20:42 |
| penguin42 | mxe5: Thanks, but try checking under the partner repos | 20:43 |
| mxe5 | I do have #ubuntu - clicked on wrong one - thx | 20:43 |
| mxe5 | penguin42: Ok wil do - thanks | 20:43 |
| dupondje | damn | 21:13 |
| dupondje | ubuntu-one seem to kill nautilus speed:( | 21:14 |
| BUGabundo | it does? | 21:18 |
| BUGabundo | I don't see the top bar | 21:18 |
| BUGabundo | :D | 21:18 |
| BUGabundo | but the bug wasn't closed | 21:18 |
| DanaG | I tried the new Unity, and found it useless. | 21:19 |
| DanaG | It had about 5 shortcuts on the left bar, and no way to launch anything not in those 5. | 21:19 |
| BUGabundo | I need to try it again | 21:20 |
| BUGabundo | but I never logout :( | 21:20 |
| BUGabundo | *if* it would allow multi session users , I could test it a bit more | 21:21 |
| BUGabundo | jcastro: ^^^^^^^^ | 21:21 |
| DrHalan | how does unity compete with the old netbook edition performance-wise? | 21:21 |
| DanaG | Well, performance is irrelevant, when it's 100% useless. | 21:21 |
| jcastro | DanaG: the applications thing just landed, click on the ubuntu logo | 21:21 |
| DanaG | The desktop is entirely blank. | 21:21 |
| DanaG | Last time I tried clicking the logo, it just went into "exposé' mode. | 21:22 |
| dupondje | BUGabundo: is nautilus also so EXTREMELY slow for you ? :p | 21:22 |
| jcastro | you need to update | 21:22 |
| DanaG | This time, it did showdesktop. | 21:22 |
| BUGabundo | DrHalan: from my early testing it was MUCH faster | 21:22 |
| DrHalan | niceee | 21:22 |
| BUGabundo | dupondje: no | 21:22 |
| DanaG | And I don't like having my panels locked down to be uncustomizable. | 21:23 |
| DrHalan | i have the Eee 701 (first one released) its already to slow for the normal netbook edition | 21:23 |
| dupondje | 7814 jl 20 0 90072 16m 4128 R 10 0.8 0:00.32 ubuntuone-syncd | 21:23 |
| dupondje | and 50% cpu load | 21:23 |
| dupondje | when opening a directory with 500 JPEG's | 21:24 |
| DanaG | yeah, ubuntuone sucks... it devours my CPU quite completely. | 21:24 |
| DanaG | Try it with your pidgin logs. | 21:24 |
| dupondje | been opening for 30 seconds now | 21:24 |
| dupondje | still don't see thizzle :( | 21:24 |
| DanaG | Devours 100% of one Core 2 Duo core! | 21:24 |
| gnomefreak | dupondje: stop it from loading | 21:24 |
| DanaG | And I can't delete folders with u1sdtool... it doesn't work. | 21:24 |
| dupondje | gnomefreak: how exactly ? | 21:24 |
| gnomefreak | dupondje: System>Preferences>startup applications | 21:25 |
| gnomefreak | dupondje: look for it and uncheak it | 21:25 |
| DanaG | That's not enough -- I had to actually dpkg-divert ubuntuone-syncdaemon out of the way. | 21:25 |
| gnomefreak | i have all ubuntu1 set not not load | 21:26 |
| gnomefreak | dupondje: it works for me fine | 21:26 |
| dupondje | lets see :) | 21:26 |
| dupondje | cause its loading the directory for 2 minutes now | 21:26 |
| dupondje | this is to crazy imo | 21:26 |
| gnomefreak | gnomefreak@development:~$ ps aux |grep ubuntuone | 21:26 |
| gnomefreak | 1000 8743 0.0 0.2 1928 524 pts/3 S+ 16:26 0:00 grep ubuntuone | 21:26 |
| gnomefreak | ill be back testing firefox release | 21:27 |
| DanaG | the delete-folders method on dbus doesn't actually work. | 21:28 |
| DanaG | Nope, still blank desktop when I run "unity". | 21:29 |
| DanaG | er, wait, lots of packages in need of updating. | 21:31 |
| penguin42 | DanaG: Are you running it in a vm ? | 21:32 |
| dupondje | gnomefreak: no ubuntuone process running, but it still gets loaded when opening a directory :( | 21:32 |
| DrHalan | again my question. is there some knid of alpha freeze right now? | 21:32 |
| gnomefreak | dupondje: that is a bug in Nautilus | 21:33 |
| gnomefreak | unless it was fixed | 21:33 |
| dupondje | it takes damn 3 minutes to open a dir :( | 21:33 |
| DanaG | Nope, native. Will try after update. | 21:34 |
| geser | DrHalan: according to the topic in #ubuntu-devel no, and no freeze announcement was send to the ubuntu-devel-announce mailing list yet for alpha2 | 21:34 |
| DanaG | And I do not like the fact that it REQUIRES me to use compiz... what ever happened to the idea that unnecessary tie-ins are BAD DESIGN? | 21:34 |
| DrHalan | DanaG: isn't it using mutter? | 21:35 |
| DanaG | Yeah, that's what I mean. | 21:35 |
| DrHalan | i also think a lot of its design needs compositing (like the expose for example) | 21:35 |
| DanaG | I want to be able to use Compiz. | 21:35 |
| DrHalan | yeah i feel for you. mutter is rather ugly at the moment | 21:37 |
| DrHalan | don't liek the minimize effect at all | 21:37 |
| DanaG | weird... in Lucid, my touchpad's middle button is being treated as a left button! | 21:54 |
| DanaG | er | 21:54 |
| DanaG | in Maverick. | 21:54 |
| DrHalan | my mouse isn't able to scroll sidewards anymore :( (logitech g5) | 21:58 |
| gnomefreak | nautilus is slow as hell | 22:18 |
| DrHalan | not for me.. | 22:18 |
| DrHalan | but i am using elements | 22:18 |
| dupondje | héhé gnomefreak, same issue ? :p | 22:21 |
| gnomefreak | dupondje: not sure what your issue was but i have to re-test a bit later so i can mae sure if it is U1 or if it the downloads im doing | 22:21 |
| gnomefreak | ok ill be back a bit later i have to cook dinner and eat | 22:22 |
| dupondje | lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions => somebody knows what this means exactly ? | 22:30 |
| dupondje | somebody that has vsftpd installed ? | 23:23 |
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