=== marcos_ is now known as Daekdroom [00:14] Got a Fritz!BOX 7270 replacing the asthmatic Livebox from Orange. I am so impressed Work like a charm with Ubuntu or any Linux. Everything from IPv6, SIP phone line, DECT station, fast wireless. Good job from the Germans AVM. [00:16] Downloads reach 2500Kb/s instead of the almost 1100Kb/s from the crapware rented à 3€/months. [00:16] you have a DSL provider that does IPv6 ? [00:16] penguin42, used to with nerim, but now just using SIXXS [00:17] 3euros/month for 1100kb/s ? O.o [00:17] penguin42, do a /whois leagris [00:17] That is cheap. [00:17] yeh I saw it was IPv6 [00:17] Daekdroom, only for renting their box. DSL line subscription is 39€/months [00:17] Oh. [00:17] Well, still sort of cheap. [00:18] short line of 700m [00:18] got near the maximum of ADSL2+ ATM rate with low errors [00:19] their Livebox synked at same ATM speed but the cheap CPU heavily limited usable IP bandwidth. [00:20] I understand you, I used to run a USB ADSL modem over USB 1.1 D: [00:34] Daekdroom: One of the old stingray/frog alcatels? [00:35] penguin42, Yeah! [00:35] yeh I used that for a while [00:35] I still have it somewhere in here. [00:35] It looks like an oversized mouse :P [00:36] :) [00:37] Alcatel merged with Lucent, seems they no longer brand end-user modems now. [00:49] sorry for the long OT, was meant to ubuntu-offtopic ;D [00:52] is anyone running maverick in a VM system other than kvm? [02:10] Hello all [02:11] Can any one point me to where i can find the pool for maverick meerkat? I have tried archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu and I still need 214 files to complete my iso [02:12] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror [02:12] (2010-06-26 22:23:32) jpds: debmirror lets one specify --arch'es and --releases if I recall correctly. [02:12] Lostwf: try that [02:13] Thanks BUGd will try [02:16] Does debmirror download the complete pool for the release? [02:19] eewwww [02:19] VLC just memory leaked :( [02:19] Lostwf: it should, I think [02:20] I dont have enough bandwith limit to download the whole pool. I just need some (200) files which are not in the current archive pool to complete the iso that I am downloading via jigdo [02:23] why don't you use zsync intead? [02:47] hello [02:48] will the next version of ubuntu continue to be lightweight in resource usage? [04:22] how do I get a listing of bluetooth devices paired to the computer with mac addresses? [04:29] is anyone else still having the issue with the bluetooth and power manager icons showing up all the time, or did it get fixed? [04:52] alex_mayorga: you can ask bluez over dbus. [04:53] do "pidof bluetoothd"... and then a dbus send I'm digging up. [04:55] argh, I've forgotten what the command was... [04:55] dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.bluez /org/bluez/22211/hci0 org.bluez.Adapter.ListDevices [04:55] where 22211 is the pid of bluetoothd. [04:56] And for each device, you can [04:56] dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.bluez /org/bluez/22211/hci0/dev_00_02_72_A9_2B_03 org.bluez.Device.GetProperties [05:09] DanaG: is "00_02_72_A9_2B_03" the MAC address? [05:10] yeah. [05:10] You can get the full device string from the ListDevices. [05:12] DanaG: guess I'm messing up at some point [05:12] dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.bluez /org/bluez/1205/hci0 org.bluez.Adapter.ListDevices [05:13] gets me Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "ListDevices" with signature "" on interface "org.bluez.Adapter" doesn't exist [05:13] hmm. [05:14] try installing d-feet, and you can dig around in the stuff Bluez is offering. [05:14] It's also possible you have hci1 instead of hci0. [05:15] installing d-feet [05:15] Bluez is on the "system" bus. [05:16] DanaG: thanks, really appreciated hopefully I could be able to extract the mac address of my stolen bluetooth devices :( [05:16] argh, this new Unity thing, in my experience, seems to only have a panel on the left side. [05:16] is d-feet a gui? [05:16] Yeah. [05:17] Bus Address? [05:18] Go in the File menu... there's "system" there. [05:18] Yeah, that UI seems to suck. [05:18] No button for "system" [05:19] seems I had the pid wrong [05:19] why might that be? [05:19] ps -fea | grep bluetoothdroot 1205 1 0 21:14 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/bluetoothd --udev [05:20] but object paths are /org/bluez/1203/hci0 [05:20] is that a bug? [05:22] ah. weird. [05:22] That IS weird. [05:23] ah, all I get when running Unity is a panel on the left. [05:25] DanaG: Thanks immensely I found the address [05:25] I think being unable of seeing the MAC address in the GUI is a gnome-bluetooth bug, your take? [05:26] Probably a "feature". [05:26] Keep things simple.... to the point of uselessness. [05:27] With gnome-bluetooth: Okay, I've paired my device. Now what can I do with it? [05:27] With gnome-bluetooth, the answer is approximately "nothing". [05:27] Try "blueman" instead -- it actually lets you CONNECT to devices -- imagine that! [05:27] yep, BTW does 10.10 now does 3G over bluetooth? [05:28] finding it hard to do on 10.04 [05:28] Blueman can probably do it even in Lucid. [05:28] can they co-exist? [05:28] I'm not sure. [05:29] Looks like the main repo blueman can coexist with gnome-bluetooth. [05:34] argh, stupid unity... demands using Mutter. Well, I want to use Compiz. [05:35] DanaG, :) too bad it wont happen :) [05:35] I say, things shouldn't be that tightly integrated... it's the sort of thing my classes have said are bad design. [05:36] DanaG, ah perhaps you are correct... I personally would rather run compiz but... being a netbook...doesnt that automatically mean fewer resources at hand yes ? [05:36] I have compiz tweaked to be reasonable. No wobbly on the netbook. [05:37] Lamp animations for minimize and menu create/destroy. "dream" for window-create, and "sidekick" for window close. [05:37] eeww no wobbly?? I forget what static windows feel like :) [05:37] Or wait, maybe I re-enabled that. [05:37] Yeah, I think I did... the other "snapping" is way too forceful. [05:38] Oh, and random gripe: try pressing arrow keys while using a touchpad. [05:38] Apparently arrow keys are considered "typing". [05:38] It disables the touchpad. [05:38] Good luck typing anything with just arrow keys. [05:38] :) [05:38] ↑←←→↑↓↓↓←→↑→→→←↓ [05:38] DanaG, I have been playing with kde's netbook edition much nicer than gnome's << my opinion [05:39] DanaG, compiz doesnt seem to disable there but of not much use it seems [05:39] Last time I tried KDE, it was too bulky for my liking. [05:39] but let me check again hold on while I 'scoot" over to the maverick machine [05:39] DanaG, the beta kde is really and I am a kde hater :) [05:40] Oh, and bulky != bloaty. [05:40] Bulk is "too many pixels". [05:40] I'll try KDE on the netbook. [05:41] heh, my GDM panel is too wide for my netbook's screen. [05:41] Gets cut off at "sh (United States)" [05:41] And the accessibility "tray" icon overlaps the right dropdown. [05:42] DanaG, yeah compiz stays enabled with kde's beta netbook at least here it does [05:43] And kwin is nice enough on its own that, worst case, it's better than Mutter, for sure. [05:45] DanaG, well I was surprised at kde netbook.. it is nice looking...nothing off screen no crowding etc etc [05:49] weird... somehow my KDE gets a gnome panel. [05:51] ah, it's in autostart. [05:55] site: your valid user. username: (text box). password: (text box). [05:55] What is that? [05:56] Argh, if I hold it in the exposé thingy, I see two windows appear, disappear, appear, disappear, appear, disappear, appear, disappear, appear, disappear [05:57] ah, fixed it by cleaning out autostart. [05:58] What is "this site"? [05:58] it wants me to log into something. [06:00] DanaG, in the netbook? [06:00] Yeah. [06:00] DanaG, not sure other than maybe bug reports [06:00] http://dot.kde.org/2009/05/01/social-desktop-starts-arrive [06:00] DanaG, seems to happen here each time I log into netbook [06:01] oh! [06:01] DanaG, the interface is much nicer yes? [06:03] well it is 1am here...need to go to bed [06:06] ugh, system monitor widget is buggy... it keeps spazzing between small and big. [06:09] ugh, yeah, netbook thingy is buggy. [06:25] wow, this "netbook" session is lame... there's a menu button that does nothing, and a blank desktop. [06:32] How useless. [06:32] And alt-f2 doesn't work. And there's no "terminal" shortcut. [07:01] argh, what a broken shell. There's no way to start anything that's not on the list on the left! [07:40] DanaG: I think it's safe to say that you are outside the target demographic :) [09:15] hi [09:15] i have a problem installing 10.04 on fakeraid, i know this bug was fixed lately (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/grub-installer/+bug/568050), is there any ISO that integrates this fix? [09:15] Launchpad bug 568050 in grub-installer (Ubuntu Lucid) "Ubuntu 10.04 can't create partition on fakeraid" [Undecided,New] [09:16] szonek: 10.04 support is in #ubuntu - not #ubuntu+1 [09:17] yeah i know.. i tried to find 10.04 daily builds or something like that but all i found was daily builds for 10.10 [09:17] so i thougt i can make sure there is none daily builds for 10.04 [09:18] ok - so again, 10.04 support is in #ubuntu - not #ubuntu+1 [09:18] okay okay [11:37] heh [12:17] why does kernel modesetting actually increase CPU usage when playing video in xine and cause artifacts? also increases CPU usage in gstreamer based players to the point where video stutters, i thought KMS was supposed to fix tearing issues with video... I have a X2300 RV535 radeon by the way [12:35] morning [12:35] hello [14:32] hey all [15:29] fun bug that's in Maverick (from 2.6.35) - the sysrq code is a bit screwy - so you can trigger a reboot by doing; press&release right-alt, p&r print-screen, p&r b [15:32] What the? [15:33] I noticed on lkml and just gave it a go on my maverick install [15:47] penguin42: alt-F2 triggered a reboot for me about 2 days ago :/ [15:48] IdleOne: It may be unrelated, but if sometime previously you had used printscreen and b .... [15:49] penguin42: could be. my kitten has been having a good old time irc'ing lately [15:49] they seem to be very good at that [15:50] actually my computer did not reboot. it locked up. I had to hit the reset button to get it to reboot [15:50] oh, that's a different case [15:50] keyboard lights were flashing [15:50] that was a panic [15:50] mouse and kb were not responsive [15:51] but it seemed to happen when I did alt-F2 [15:51] quite possibly triggered something [15:52] Temporary solution: don't do alt-F2 [15:52] :) [16:00] [12631.533610] ata6: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x990000 action 0xe frozen [16:00] [12638.313896] EXT2-fs (sdb1): previous I/O error to superblock detected [16:00] not in a good luck week [16:02] ah [17:08] Long Live MPLAYER.... [17:08] since mplayer is sooo broken [17:08] and gstreamer too that even vlc memory leaks [17:09] mplayer keeps going and going and going.... and going [18:26] SD cards broken ? [18:26] Got command interrupt 0x00030000 even though no command operation was in progress. [18:42] * penguin42 finds something fixed in Maverick! dcraw's new version can read my cameras files [19:38] ARGH! [19:39] Somehow I'm ending up with /dev/fb0 being uvesafb, and /dev/fb1 being radondrmfb. [19:39] And gdm isn't even trying to start. [19:41] hi, why is xulrunner-1.9.2 kept back? [19:46] ARGH! [19:46] On a fresh install, why is gdm not even trying to start? [19:50] knittl, because you are using the development release of ubuntu. :) [19:50] om26er: lol ^^ [19:50] i'm aware of that [19:50] it's been almost a week now, that's why i ask. usually i can remove some other packages [19:51] how do i get non-free packagse for maverick? [19:51] https://launchpad.net/medibuntu/maverick [19:51] meidbuntu seems to have nothing yet.. [20:00] "Use default (generic) configuration" [20:00] I press OK on that, it takes me nowhere but where I just was. [20:00] It's insisting on going into failsafe mode, yet the "view log file" is ENTIRELY EMPTY! [20:01] DrHalan: lucid packages may work [20:01] medibuntu gets in @ beta1 normally [20:01] mh i have the lucid packages still installed so they dont i guess [20:03] mh beta1 is stil a long way to go [20:03] mplayer works atleast [20:06] AT+GCAP [20:06] something keeps writing that to my serial console. [20:06] AT+GCAP [20:06] AT+GCAP [20:07] http://www.anotherurl.com/library/at_test.htm says it's fax related [20:09] DanaG: that something tries to talk to a modem [20:09] yeah, looks like it's NetworkManager. [20:10] It does it exactly 3 times every boot. [20:15] are we already in freeze for alpha 2? [20:41] Installed 10.4 on a friends computer - Been a few months since I installed the correct version of Java for Frostwire to work - anyone help on this? [20:42] mxe5: This channel is for Maverick (10.10) - try #ubuntu please [20:42] oh ok - sorry [20:43] mxe5: Thanks, but try checking under the partner repos [20:43] I do have #ubuntu - clicked on wrong one - thx [20:43] penguin42: Ok wil do - thanks [21:13] damn [21:14] ubuntu-one seem to kill nautilus speed:( [21:18] it does? [21:18] I don't see the top bar [21:18] :D [21:18] but the bug wasn't closed [21:19] I tried the new Unity, and found it useless. [21:19] It had about 5 shortcuts on the left bar, and no way to launch anything not in those 5. [21:20] I need to try it again [21:20] but I never logout :( [21:21] *if* it would allow multi session users , I could test it a bit more [21:21] jcastro: ^^^^^^^^ [21:21] how does unity compete with the old netbook edition performance-wise? [21:21] Well, performance is irrelevant, when it's 100% useless. [21:21] DanaG: the applications thing just landed, click on the ubuntu logo [21:21] The desktop is entirely blank. [21:22] Last time I tried clicking the logo, it just went into "exposé' mode. [21:22] BUGabundo: is nautilus also so EXTREMELY slow for you ? :p [21:22] you need to update [21:22] This time, it did showdesktop. [21:22] DrHalan: from my early testing it was MUCH faster [21:22] niceee [21:22] dupondje: no [21:23] And I don't like having my panels locked down to be uncustomizable. [21:23] i have the Eee 701 (first one released) its already to slow for the normal netbook edition [21:23] 7814 jl 20 0 90072 16m 4128 R 10 0.8 0:00.32 ubuntuone-syncd [21:23] and 50% cpu load [21:24] when opening a directory with 500 JPEG's [21:24] yeah, ubuntuone sucks... it devours my CPU quite completely. [21:24] Try it with your pidgin logs. [21:24] been opening for 30 seconds now [21:24] still don't see thizzle :( [21:24] Devours 100% of one Core 2 Duo core! [21:24] dupondje: stop it from loading [21:24] And I can't delete folders with u1sdtool... it doesn't work. [21:24] gnomefreak: how exactly ? [21:25] dupondje: System>Preferences>startup applications [21:25] dupondje: look for it and uncheak it [21:25] That's not enough -- I had to actually dpkg-divert ubuntuone-syncdaemon out of the way. [21:26] i have all ubuntu1 set not not load [21:26] dupondje: it works for me fine [21:26] lets see :) [21:26] cause its loading the directory for 2 minutes now [21:26] this is to crazy imo [21:26] gnomefreak@development:~$ ps aux |grep ubuntuone [21:26] 1000 8743 0.0 0.2 1928 524 pts/3 S+ 16:26 0:00 grep ubuntuone [21:27] ill be back testing firefox release [21:28] the delete-folders method on dbus doesn't actually work. [21:29] Nope, still blank desktop when I run "unity". [21:31] er, wait, lots of packages in need of updating. [21:32] DanaG: Are you running it in a vm ? [21:32] gnomefreak: no ubuntuone process running, but it still gets loaded when opening a directory :( [21:32] again my question. is there some knid of alpha freeze right now? [21:33] dupondje: that is a bug in Nautilus [21:33] unless it was fixed [21:33] it takes damn 3 minutes to open a dir :( [21:34] Nope, native. Will try after update. [21:34] DrHalan: according to the topic in #ubuntu-devel no, and no freeze announcement was send to the ubuntu-devel-announce mailing list yet for alpha2 [21:34] And I do not like the fact that it REQUIRES me to use compiz... what ever happened to the idea that unnecessary tie-ins are BAD DESIGN? [21:35] DanaG: isn't it using mutter? [21:35] Yeah, that's what I mean. [21:35] i also think a lot of its design needs compositing (like the expose for example) [21:35] I want to be able to use Compiz. [21:37] yeah i feel for you. mutter is rather ugly at the moment [21:37] don't liek the minimize effect at all [21:54] weird... in Lucid, my touchpad's middle button is being treated as a left button! [21:54] er [21:54] in Maverick. [21:58] my mouse isn't able to scroll sidewards anymore :( (logitech g5) [22:18] nautilus is slow as hell [22:18] not for me.. [22:18] but i am using elements [22:21] héhé gnomefreak, same issue ? :p [22:21] dupondje: not sure what your issue was but i have to re-test a bit later so i can mae sure if it is U1 or if it the downloads im doing [22:22] ok ill be back a bit later i have to cook dinner and eat [22:30] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions => somebody knows what this means exactly ? [23:23] somebody that has vsftpd installed ?