[03:37] we ignore it until enough people complain? if you want to package it yourself, you're more than welcome to help out.. [04:12] ddecator: around? [04:12] micahg: yup [04:12] ddecator: merge looks good :0 [04:12] micahg: good to hear :) [04:15] ddecator: I added the changelog entry for you this time since we're short on time [04:15] micahg: when should and shouldn't i add to the changelog? [04:16] ddecator: don't add if it's not released yet, add if it is :) [04:16] * micahg needs to remember to include all the changelogs in the merge :( [04:16] micahg: well ft-a said we don't always add rebasing of patches because it happens too often [04:19] ddecator: ah, well, I add it the first time I change the patch so that there's a note at least, idk, I'll have to discuss with him later :) [04:20] micahg: ok, i was just confused on that part. i'll make sure to follow the right format for patches and everything in the future. do i need to re-do that with sb or just do it later if they need to be updated? [04:20] ddecator: no, SB doesn't need it since it hasn't been released yet [04:20] micahg: the patches having more context right? [04:20] ddecator: ? [04:21] micahg: what i meant was should i re-do the patches for songbird so they have more context like with firefox, just wanted to make sure we were talking about the same thing :p [04:21] ddecator: ah, yeah, next time you refresh them, don't worry about it right now [04:22] micahg: ok, sounds good :) [04:22] i was gonna look at tb 3.1, but i couldn't figure out what the build log was pointing to when it failed... [04:23] ddecator: you can take care of it after I fix it, we need an extra patch IIRC [04:23] ddecator: here's what I did for your merge: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-3.7.head/revision/544 [04:23] micahg: yah, that's what it looked like, i just didn't have any idea where i would begin to look (something was missing and upsetting dh_install) [04:25] micahg: ah, so i can remove previous entries for the patch in that grouping and put them under my name if i'm the last one to fix it? [04:25] * micahg has to push Thunderbird 3.0.5 to the stable channel PPA... [04:25] ddecator: yeah [04:25] micahg: good deal, thanks for merging that. i'm starting to get a good feel for how all of this works :) [04:25] ddecator: only if it's a rebase, if actual changes to the patch are made, you can just add it to your entry [04:26] ddecator: thank you for your work :) [04:26] micahg: glad to help, i'm looking forward to doing more :D [04:28] you and chris are busy taking care of the big things like backporting, i might as well help take care of the little things like maintaining patches [04:30] to start ;) [05:39] jdstrand: Firefox 3.6.6 was just released which fixes the crash plugin timeout :( [05:41] and tb 3.1 was just released. they're moving quick o.o [05:41] ddecator: well, I knew about that, 3.6.6 was a fire drill release :) [05:41] micahg: fire drill release? [05:42] ddecator: rapid release due to a bad situation (either security vulnerability or in this case, mistake in the last release [05:42] micahg: ah, gotcha :) [06:17] * micahg is going to try to add whatever's left for alpha2 [07:23] hi ddecator [07:23] hi micahg [07:23] ddecator: do you have the multiple language issue in firefox-maverick? [07:23] *dictionary [07:24] micahg: i'm on lucid [07:24] ddecator: ah, I thought you were on maverick for some reason :(, ok [07:24] micahg: i'll probably upgrade at a2 :) [07:26] not that it helps right now :/ [07:26] ddecator: nah, it's ok [07:27] ddecator: I'm going to push the commit to fix it in the morning, going to spin a maverick version in my PPA [07:28] micahg: if you need a tester, i can upgrade a little early (i've been debating doing it anyway since lucid is getting kinda boring :p) [07:28] ddecator: nah, that's ok, I can get gnomefreak to test [07:29] micahg: sounds good [07:29] ddecator: I probably won't upgrade until beta 1 [07:35] ddecator: I manage to keep most of what I use every day up to date, so no real need for me to rush into the next release [07:37] micahg: i like bleeding edge, even if it breaks here and there. i'd wait longer if i was at school, but i'm at home so i don't have to worry as much about potential data loss [07:38] ddecator: k, I only have 1 desktop (laptop) ATM, so I have to be kinda conservative, by beta, nothing major should break, I can handle minor breakage [07:38] micahg: good point and very understandable [07:38] also, once again, my desktop isn't changing (xfce 4.8 delayed), so I'm less worried [08:16] huh, the bookmarks item is showing up for me in FF 3.7 and i can't move it o.o [08:17] ddecator: idk, maybe wait for today's build [08:18] micahg: it's the one that built a few hours ago, haha. not a big deal, just really random [08:29] ddecator: I get a bunch of old bookmarks in firefox-3.7 [08:29] micahg: old bookmarks? [08:29] ddecator: outdated links [08:29] * micahg thought we fixed those [08:29] that's weird.. [08:30] my bookmarks looks right, i just have the icon on there for some reason === fta_ is now known as fta [12:35] morning [12:36] at 1:30pm? [12:36] :) [12:43] going to lunch NOW [12:43] so its still morning [12:43] 12:43 [13:19] asac, could you please have a look at bug 570812 [13:19] Launchpad bug 570812 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "Use the ubuntu startpage by default (affects: 2) (heat: 22)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/570812 [13:20] hm, micah and chris are not there [13:21] fta: I have an idea for drobotik, some way of implementing distro specific patches. As in, only patch the source for hardy/jaunty but no other release. [13:22] ripps, what do you mean by patch? [13:23] fta: y'know like with quilt [13:23] ripps, this isn't controlled by the bot, it's the buildd thing, so conditional patching must be in d/rules [13:24] I meant that the we could manipulate the series using drobotik [13:25] ripps, the bot can tweak some stuff (like it already does for the Build-deps).. but for patches, i think it's best to do that in d/rules like by passing different QUILT_PATCHES values [13:25] right now I'm trying to use a compilicated set of rules to modify debian/patches/series based on what distro is being built, but this method won't work very well with source-3.0 format. Because it patches before upload. [13:25] oh [13:26] i haven't played with source-3.0 yet [13:27] it designed to have everything patched and ready before uploading. messing with quilt values in rules is useless since dpkg-source will run the patches anyway. [13:27] so I was hoping that drobotik could mess around with the patch series before running dpkg-source [13:30] ripps, it's probably doable, but the bot doesn't know what patch system it has to deal with (if any). i need to think about it [13:32] o/ [14:48] fta: re libpng> ack [14:49] jdstrand, good [14:50] jdstrand, btw, i have 5.0.375.86~r49890 ready but it's another mix of security + regular fixes [14:53] fta: ok, it'll be the same process again. I can upload it tomorrow first thing, if you make a lucid-proposed package for me (I am about to head out) [14:55] jdstrand, sure i can do that. l-proposed or l-security? (maverick will include that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/455937/) [14:56] fta: if it also has bug fixes, put lucid-proposed, but we'll build it in ubuntu-security-proposed so it will eventually land in -updtes and -security [14:56] ok [15:16] fta: has that version been released yet? [15:17] mdeslaur, i've built it in the stable ppa, but it's not in maverick yet [15:17] fta: I mean, did google push that out as an update? or is it just pulled from the git repo? [15:17] i'm browsing the bugs to see if it needs something else urgent [15:18] yep http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/2010/06/stable-channel-update_24.html [15:18] oh! I was looking at the "Google Chrome Blog" and not the "Google Chrome Releases Blog" [15:18] my bad :) [17:32] asac: the title A Web Browser for abrowser is part of the branding, right? [17:53] hi fta [17:53] I assume we're going to need to have someone talk to the ambiance theme person so I'm going to send kwwii to go check it out [17:56] fta: getting SNAPs at https://caixadirecta.cgd.pt/ [17:57] running a CLEAN profile in gdb [17:57] how can I get anything out of it? [17:57] *** NSPlugin Viewer *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 () in NPN_GetValue() [17:57] is all I have [18:32] most probably flash [18:32] on a clean profile? [18:32] works fine in ff 3.6 [18:33] isn't there some kind of debug in browser I can see? [18:33] gdb is silent [18:35] jcastro, hi. right, i never used those extensions so i don't know if they work or not. I'm trying to activate the new system pref policies but it currently doesn't work at all. i need to discuss with upstream tomorrow [19:19] BUGabundo, try with --disable-plugins --disable-extensions [19:21] fta: http://paste.ubuntu.com/456022/ [19:21] its a brand new profile [19:21] with all plugins in about:plugins disabled [19:21] 6.0.451.0 (50940) Ubuntu 10.10 [19:22] SIGTERM, it's not a crash [19:22] I know [19:23] I CRASHED it so I could get a trace [19:23] (2010-06-27 19:22:16) rubenbb: BUGabundo: old glib? don't know [19:23] i doubt it [19:23] ii libglib2.0-0 2.25.10-1ubuntu1 The GLib library of C routines [19:24] its maverick after all [19:24] do you see something with --log-level=0 --enable-logging=stderr ? [19:24] $ chromium-browser --log-level=0 --enable-logging=stderr -g --disable-plugins --disable-extensions --user-data-dir=$chromiumdatadir --disk-cache-dir=$chromiumdiskcache [19:24] like this ? [19:25] eerrrrkkkk [19:25] -g needs to come first [19:25] -g mush be 1szt [19:25] I know [19:25] can't you fix that? [19:25] lol, weird keyboard [19:26] ok, got it [19:26] now what? [19:26] do you see something more? [19:26] [25120.265061] chromium-browse[11224]: segfault at 31 ip 0000000001223f4c sp 00007fff6e946a70 error 4 in chromium-browser[400000+2873000] [19:26] eeewwww [19:26] add --single-process [19:27] http://paste.ubuntu.com/456026/ [19:27] chromium-browser -g --single-process --log-level=0 --enable-logging=stderr --disable-plugins --disable-extensions --user-data-dir=$chromiumdatadir --disk-cache-dir=$chromiumdiskcache [19:27] and use my --temp-profile instead of your last two flags [19:27] well [19:27] right now I'm reusing the 1st temp profile [19:28] so it kinda makes sense [19:28] I get an warning [19:28] saying [19:28] unsuported comand line [19:28] --single process [19:29] single-process [19:29] with a dash [19:29] yep [19:29] that's what I use [19:29] chromium-browser -g --single-process --log-level=0 --enable-logging=stderr --disable-plugins --disable-extensions --user-data-dir=$chromiumdatadir --disk-cache-dir=$chromiumdiskcache [19:29] and --temp-profile mush be at the beginning [19:29] must [19:29] grrr [19:29] ahaah [19:30] Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [19:30] [Switching to Thread 0x7fffe1e91710 (LWP 11516)] [19:30] WebCore::Position::getInlineBoxAndOffset (this=0x7fffe1e90600, affinity=WebCore::DOWNSTREAM, primaryDirection=WebCore::LTR, inlineBox=@0x7fffe1e90638, [19:30] caretOffset=@0x7fffe1e90644) at third_party/WebKit/WebCore/dom/Position.cpp:1014 [19:30] 1014 third_party/WebKit/WebCore/dom/Position.cpp: No such file or directory. [19:30] in third_party/WebKit/WebCore/dom/Position.cpp [19:31] fta: is that it? [19:31] looks better.. but unknown to me. [19:31] http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=47439 [19:35] mdeslaur, fyi, CVE-2010-1205 doesn't impact chromium (i use system libpng) [19:35] fta: ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem. When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2010-1205) [19:35] http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=47688 [19:44] fta: anyone reported probs with captcha??? for a few days I can't enter any site that has captchas [19:44] not that i know of [19:45] well yesterday I couldn't enter icheckmovies.com [19:45] in FF worked fine [19:45] now I can't use this http://www.vodafone.pt/Vodafone/FTTH/FTTHEligibilityHome.aspx?NRMODE=Published&NRORIGINALURL=/main/Particulares/vodafonecasa/Cobertura/cobertura&NRNODEGUID={7E824B88-FAFB-49CE-9099-3C0E2D3AE535}&NRCACHEHINT=Guest [19:46] WORKS Fine in FF [19:46] so its chromium [19:46] WTF [19:48] maybe you can't read properly ;) [19:48] * BUGabundo slaps fta [19:48] hm, chromium has 270 flags.. [20:41] gnomefreak: can you test my maverick Firefox 3.6.6 to see if you only have 1 copy of each dictionary? [20:42] not the daily? [20:43] be right back. drop a link and ill look at it [20:47] k [20:55] i go away for 1 1/2 days and firefox released 3.6.6 [20:56] it was an emergency release that changed 3 lines of code, haha [20:57] that sucks. seems people can leave you messages when pidgin is not running. i just spent a few minstalking to someone who was not here [20:57] ddecator: makes sense [20:58] gnomefreak: yah, it was just to extend the timeout time for plugin crashes. i guess people on older systems were having it say plugins had crashed when it was just taking a long time to load [20:58] oh that cant be good [20:59] exactly, hence the rush to push out an update that extended the time to 45sec (i think) [21:01] what was the timeout set to? [21:01] 10sec (i think that's what the article said, i read it earlier so i can't remember for sure) [21:03] hell it takes firefox longer than 10secs. to load a page [21:04] not for me o.o [21:05] for me it takes a while but im guessing that has to do with memory on the system [21:06] still loading and its been ~1minute r so [21:06] wow.. [21:06] 1.3ghz proc. and 256 memory [21:07] oh.. [21:07] 2.5ghz duo-core, 3gig memory.. [21:09] gnomefreak: so can you test for me. [21:10] micahg: i dont see why not but im not real sure where your build is [21:10] gnomefreak: ppa:micahg/mozilla-test [21:11] ok looking than i will test. i just need a little bit to finsh what i started [21:13] * gnomefreak cant help but to think its LP that is extreamly slow not firefox [21:15] i have more trouble with LP loading than any other site [21:16] bugs are the worst since they attach so many damn files [21:23] ok installing now [21:25] fta: stupid question, I know, but, how does one start -ProfileManager in OSX? [21:26] BUGabundo: OS X has a terminal :) [21:26] nvm /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox-bin -profilemanager [21:26] no idea, never used OSX [21:26] me neither [21:26] but a collegue is saying google groups is looping for him [21:26] so I wanted him to make a new profile [21:27] micahg: true, but $ firefox would say "command not found" [21:28] micahg: ok what am i looking for and where? [21:28] * gnomefreak doesnt do more than 1 lang, so i havent had to look for it before [21:29] go to a text box, right click and see what dictionaries you have [21:30] gnomefreak: ^^^\ [21:32] micahg: i have 6 but only 1 is enabled [21:33] gnomefreak: right, but any duplicates, if you fire up firefox-3.7, you should see duplicates [21:34] micahg: australia has 2 [21:34] gnomefreak: in 3.6? [21:35] micahg: yes [21:35] gnomefreak: ugh [21:35] Installed: 3.6.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~maverick~ppa2 [21:35] gnomefreak: what is /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6/dictionaries symlinked to? [21:35] is it just me or other people [21:36] micahg: how do i check a symlink [21:36] gnomefreak: ls -l [21:36] k [21:36] gnomefreak@development:~$ ls -l /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6/dictionaries [21:36] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Jun 27 16:26 /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6/dictionaries -> ../../share/hunspell [21:36] \o/ at least something works :) [21:37] :) [21:37] can i go back to normal or do you need more testing? [21:37] gnomefreak: do you have 2 copies in /usr/share/hunspell for en-AU? [21:38] en-AU.aff en_AU.aff en_CA.aff en_GB.aff en_US.aff en_ZA.aff [21:38] en-AU.dic en_AU.dic en_CA.dic en_GB.dic en_US.dic en_ZA.dic [21:38] i see a few [21:39] gnomefreak: weird, I thought that was going to be fixed in maverick :( [21:39] en-AU.dic en_AU.dic [21:39] * micahg will file a bug [21:39] gnomefreak: thanks, that'll do it [21:39] micahg: np [22:01] micahg, how come the daily doesn't have the dict symlink? [22:03] n-m, it's there [22:14] fta: I didn't commit to .head yet [22:26] how do i install 3.6.4? [22:26] from a repo [22:27] cause the official ff stuff has crappy hinting [22:31] mbana: ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa [22:31] huh? [22:31] mbana: that's where 3.6.4 is ATM [22:31] chrisccoulson: did you hear about FF3.6.6 [22:32] % lsb_release -a [22:32] No LSB modules are available. [22:32] Distributor ID: Ubuntu [22:32] Description: Ubuntu 9.10 [22:32] Release: 9.10 [22:32] Codename: karmic [22:32] will that be a probl;em [22:32] mbana: nope, it's there :) [22:32] i see it on their site [22:32] micahg - no, how come? i've only just got online for the first time since friday [22:32] 3.6.6 [22:33] chrisccoulson: ah, they had to increase the timeout for plugin-container to 45 seconds and did a fire drill release [22:33] chrisccoulson: I wasn't sure if you wanted to push 3.6.6, so I have the changes locally [22:33] so given that im on 9.10 [22:33] can i stil install 3.6.4 [22:33] mbana: no, 3.6.4 ATM and yes, it's in the security PPA [22:33] god damn [22:34] micahg - ah, ok. that's not too big a deal. we'll probably just push 3.6.6 if it's only small changes [22:34] im running the FF official release [22:34] it's definitely faster [22:34] :) [22:34] about god damn time [22:34] heh, busy week this week ;) [22:34] micahg: thanks [22:34] chrisccoulson: so, I can commit to .head? [22:34] micahg - yeah, feel free [22:35] chrisccoulson: I'm adding the symlink change to hunspell as well for maverick only [22:35] thanks [22:35] so, i just enable the security ppa on 9.10 and install 3.6.4? [22:35] i wonder how long i can avoid asac for ;) [22:35] mbana: yep [22:36] grrr. couchdb is a pig, worse cumulative cpu time ever [22:37] chrisccoulson: do you understand the abrowser branding? [22:37] micahg - a little. how come? [22:37] micahg: is this the official ubuntu repo or this channel's ppa? [22:37] chrisccoulson: well, I'm trying to figure out about the russian translation [22:37] cause i can't find 3.6.4 in the official one [22:38] mbana: it will go to the repo soon, there's a lot of work since we're pushing it to the previous stable released [22:38] *releases [22:38] so it's in the channel's ppa theb? [22:39] chrisccoulson: well, he said that A Web Browser is not appropriate in Russian, I was wondering if it's part of the branding [22:39] mbana: yes, that's the prerelease PPA [22:41] what's 3.7? [22:41] mbana: 4.0 [22:42] mbana: we throw releases in the security PPA once they're tagged so we can get testing before release, with 3.6.4 it's just taking a little longer than normal to push out [22:44] micahg - good point, i'm not sure how we translate the abrowser branding [22:45] chrisccoulson: well, the other translations have the A, I was hoping to discuss with asac, but I think he's enjoying the World Cup :) [22:45] do we even translate the branding strings? [22:45] chrisccoulson: well, it's for the .desktop file [22:47] micahg - in that case, we just need to edit debian/abrowser.desktop don't we? [22:48] chrisccoulson: yeah, one of the russian tranlsators proposed a merge, I was looking it over and had this question [22:48] is this just perception or is 3.6.6 slighty faster than 3.6.4? [22:48] we don't even strip the translations from the firefox desktop files like we do with everything else :) [22:49] mbana: should be no difference in speed [22:49] chrisccoulson: right [22:50] thanks again [22:53] mbana: if you notice some difference between the official build and ours, please let us know [23:07] what are the major differences between the 3.6.4 and 3.6.6. [23:07] mbana: just 1, the crash timeout [23:09] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIZUdZdFzOo [23:09] is FF4 3.6.6? [23:11] mbana: no [23:11] is this gpu stuff available on linux? [23:12] mbana: for flash? no [23:12] no rendering on the gpu [23:12] in reference to the link just posted [23:14] mbana: idk what technology they're using [23:14] oh, HTML5...idk [23:15] idk? [23:15] I don't know [23:24] it's not available yet but it will hopefully be in 4.0 for linux [23:28] chromium doesn't use it.. yet. http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=33521 [23:30] that's a different thing though [23:31] that bug, yes. but it gives a reason why it's not there yet (multi-process and sandbox) [23:31] i have several bugs on that topic, just pasted one [23:32] ah