[00:00] <sebsebseb> Alan502: website should be a last resort really
[00:00] <sebsebseb> !nivida  | Alan502
[00:00] <sebsebseb> !nividia
[00:00] <Uboy> Thanks VCoolio . where can I change my pass without insert old pass? (my system does't authentificate my password for sudo, Software Source and..., I use lucid)
[00:00] <Alan502> sebsebseb: so i have to remove the nvidia driver from grub?
[00:00] <flypiper> I need a driver for ipw9345 and it's in non-free source , can somebody point me in the right direction???
[00:00] <ZykoticK9> gionnico, to my knowledge you need to use the USB/Startup Disk Creator thing to create Persistant USB drives
[00:00] <gionnico> duffydack: dd will not give me free space for documents, will it?
[00:00] <hiexpo> sebsebseb,  just one example i have 1200 dvds and it took me 2 weeks to build a data base of them i do not want to do that again lol a back up took 30 secs and have used it twice already   lol
[00:00] <sebsebseb> Alan502: well you can't  log in at all at the moment right?
[00:00] <gionnico> ZykoticK9: but i dont use ubuntu
[00:00] <microcluster> SlidingHorn, i've a lot of gb on it
[00:00] <gionnico> an equivalent tool for any distro?
[00:00] <duffydack> gionnico, so you want persistence.. ok then.. there are guides to making casper-rw out there, google.
[00:00] <Alan502> sebsebseb: i can with a cli
[00:01] <Alan502> sebsebseb: i just changed tty
[00:01] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: right well data CD's and DVD's  don't last forever,  so well every like two years or so, you should make new ones really
[00:01] <ZykoticK9> gionnico, could you use a LiveCD to create the USB image perhaps?
[00:01] <soadkombucha> Tootoot222: Yeah I know that much. I don't want the script to be modified by anyone but me if it ever needs to be.
[00:01] <gionnico> ZykoticK9: heh no really. if i created a livecd then i would use it
[00:01] <sebsebseb> Alan502: right, but you can log in, but only to command line?
[00:01] <Uboy> where can I change my pass without insert old pass? (my system does't authentificate my password for sudo, Software Source and..., I use lucid)
[00:01] <soadkombucha> Tootoot222: What about the GRUB issue?
[00:01] <gionnico> i dont have a empty CD rom now
[00:01] <sebsebseb> ^xellos^: uhmm
[00:01] <hiexpo> !persistent
[00:01] <Alan502> sebsebseb: yes
[00:01] <sebsebseb> ^xellos^: still Flash issue right?
[00:01] <iceroot> Uboy: as root you can
[00:01] <sebsebseb> Alan502: yeah its messed up
[00:01] <Alan502> sebsebseb: can i remove the driver from the command lne?
[00:01] <SlidingHorn> microcluster, unfortunately there's no way to do that, if I remember correctly.  It's always suggested that you keep an unencrypted backup if you choose to encrypt your home directory
[00:02] <sebsebseb> Alan502: time to try recovery mode
[00:02] <Uboy> iceroot How?
[00:02] <SlidingHorn> microcluster, see here for more information: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedHomeFolder
[00:02] <sebsebseb> Alan502: uh yeah with the correct command sure,  but not sure which that is,  anyway recovery mode will let you do it I guess
[00:02] <VCoolio> clayg: for i in $(ls); do zip -r $i.zip $i; done      <-- my last stab at it
[00:02] <microcluster> SlidingHorn, ok thanks
[00:02] <Alan502> sebsebseb: ok i'll reboot and try
[00:02] <iceroot> Uboy: sudo -i  and then  passwd theusername
[00:03] <sebsebseb> Alan502: I think theres an option xfix or something like that still
[00:03] <sebsebseb> Alan502: if  not well you need command to remove it
[00:03] <iceroot> Uboy: maybe sudo passwd username   is also working
[00:03] <sebsebseb> Alan502: or I think theres still a fixing xorg ooption
[00:03] <gionnico> duffydack: i see it's easy
[00:03] <gionnico> just loopmount the iso, create the empty file of right size and format it ext3
[00:03] <Anvoid> i want to get mozilla thunderbird working but it exits. whenever thunderbird connects to aim/aol server to update mails, it happens. this works well when i add mail accounts from gmail, hotmail, etc. any clues? thank you.
[00:04] <^xellos^> sebsebseb,: thanks for help, i will do a fresh 10.1 install
[00:04] <soadkombucha> Tootoot222: I also got the grub issue. I'll be back shortly after I test a reboot and test my script.
[00:04] <sebsebseb> ^xellos^: you could do yeah
[00:04] <duffydack> gionnico,  use a virtualbox install to make the cd/usb, or use portable ubuntu (not sure it`d work never tried)
[00:04] <sebsebseb> ^xellos^: or just upgrade to it
[00:04] <Uboy> iceroot when i type sudo -i, the system want form me the password and when i insert that, system say password wrong
[00:04] <VCoolio> Uboy: did you change hosts file and not hostname file or other way round? check if /etc/hosts contains correct hostname
[00:04] <hiexpo> sebsebseb,  i have never heard that before that the life on a cd/dvd is only two years / i was refering to a library
[00:04] <gionnico> duffydack: no looks like loop mount and dd is all what i need
[00:04] <sebsebseb> ^xellos^: good idea to check your CD ISO before using by the way
[00:04] <iceroot> Uboy: then insert the correct password
[00:04] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | ^xellos^
[00:05] <iceroot> Uboy: its the password from your current logged in user
[00:05] <Alan502> sebsebseb: ummm google?
[00:05] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: not 2 years well it can be
[00:05] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: they tend to last like 5  or 7 or maybe 10 years,  apparantly
[00:05] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: I mean CD R  DVD R
[00:05] <Uboy> iceroot i know, but the system does't accept this!
[00:05] <sebsebseb> hiexpo:  CD RW  DVD RW
[00:05] <iceroot> Uboy: but you are logged in with the user and password
[00:06]  * duffydack has a cd that still reads that he wrote back in 1996
[00:06] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: and after a while the disc doesn't work as well as it used to
[00:06] <Alan502> sebsebseb: there's a command named xfig and another one named xmix
[00:06] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: depends though on the CD/DVD
[00:06] <hiexpo> sebsebseb, true
[00:06] <iceroot> Uboy: so i am sure you have misstyped the password, using capslock,different keyboard-layout or something like that
[00:06] <duffydack> its also a cheap nasty disc and totally transparent in its dye :)
[00:07] <soadkombucha> Tootoot222: Thank you very much for the help the script works perfectly. Stupid realtek wifi cards.
[00:07] <Uboy> iceroot I'm surprised, the main problem and joke is here, in login window, the system dont wanna me the password, but in any command after login and sudo, want me!
[00:07] <iceroot> Uboy: you have autologin enabled as it seems
[00:08] <sebsebseb> duffydack: well I got a lot of old CD's here, that I want to go through,  that will take a long time,  and most of them haven't been looked after properly, and I have no idea what is on them, since not labbeled, quite a lot will be blank CDs in fact. and yeah throw out what I don't want.  A bit like how I got a lot of papers here, that I want to go through and get rid of what I don't want, but not done it again yet.
[00:09] <Uboy> iceroot ok, but waht can i do now?
[00:09] <hiexpo> ^xellos^, place iso in home folder right click on it click properties copy top line /name of it / close it / no changes   / open terminal type md5sum paste what you copied and get the output/ compare to ubuntu's iso md5
[00:09] <iceroot> Uboy: remember your password
[00:09] <Uboy> any command with sudo needs password and I don't have that
[00:09] <iceroot> Uboy: have a look at /var/log/auth.log about th error-message
[00:09] <ricky_goop> may somebody help me? how do i change the splash screen on ubunutu?
[00:09] <Uboy> I know that successfully
[00:09] <Alan502> somebody help me getting my kubuntu again!
[00:09] <soadkombucha> iceroot: Couldn't he sudo -s and change the password through bash using the root account?
[00:09] <iceroot> Uboy: sudo wants your user-password
[00:09] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: to late they left
[00:09] <hiexpo> ricky_goop,  leave it alone
[00:10] <hiexpo> oh well
[00:10] <iceroot> soadkombucha: that is what i am telling him but he forgotten his userpassword
[00:10] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: why?
[00:10] <Uboy> I know, all of my usernames, account in Pc, Net, Blog and.... is one thing!
[00:10] <sebsebseb> Alan502: right uhmm
[00:10] <duffydack> single user mode is the way then
[00:10] <sebsebseb> Alan502: xfix yeah?
[00:10] <soadkombucha> iceroot: ahh.
[00:10] <sebsebseb> Alan502: what were the options?
[00:10] <hiexpo> ricky_goop,  it was  not meant to be changed with grub2
[00:10] <iceroot> Uboy: cat /var/log/auth.log
[00:10] <ZykoticK9> Uboy, see this link to reset passwords http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[00:10] <iceroot> Uboy: and look for the error from sudo
[00:11] <Anvoid> know why adding an aim account crashes thunderbird?
[00:11] <duffydack> recovery mode, passwd , done.
[00:11] <flypiper> what is the bots name here?
[00:11] <iceroot> flypiper: ubottu
[00:11] <marcos_> ubottu, flypiper
[00:11] <soadkombucha> Anvoid: Is it adding the AIM account or is it the server settings? Does Thunderbird support AOL Mail connections?
[00:11] <flypiper> thanks
[00:11] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: but there is a lot of splash images to download
[00:12] <hiexpo> ricky_goop, how long do u have to look at it 15 secs who cares if it's not broke no need to fix it
[00:12] <sebsebseb> soadkombucha: this channel isn't really the best for Thunderbird help,  theres  irc.mozilla.org  mozillazine.org forum
[00:12] <tommy2010__> how do I disable tcp6 in 10.4 ?
[00:12] <Anvoid> soadkombucha: not sure what you mean by support but i it does help me config the smtp, imap, and port when i enter the name@aim.com
[00:12] <soadkombucha> sebsebseb: Anvoid was asking a question.
[00:13] <soadkombucha> Anvoid: Take sebsebseb's adive and try the Mozilla IRC
[00:13] <soadkombucha> Anvoid: You're on a software-wide issue, not a system-wide issue dealing with thunderbird
[00:13] <hiexpo> ricky_goop, \ you can google it and find out how if u want to but don't say i didn't warn you cause i guarantee you will crash and lose boot
[00:13] <Flannel> soadkombucha: AOL mail would either be POP or IMAP, so yes, it will.
[00:13] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: okay... and where i can learn about these things that is not meant to be changed?
[00:13] <soadkombucha> Flannel: It's IMAP
[00:13] <soadkombucha> Anvoid: http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/faq#aol
[00:13] <Flannel> soadkombucha: Then yes, thunderbird supports IMAP
[00:13] <soadkombucha> Flannel: I know. that's why I use it.
[00:13] <ricky_goop> there must be a lot of thing like this
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[00:13] <anigma> is there a way to reinstall/recover ubuntu using the install disk? I'm not able to login and I desperatly need to keep my configuration and all the stuff in /home
[00:14] <omani> got a problem with mutt. deleting msgs is not possible. the $ funtcion to sync the mailbox doenst work too
[00:14] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: there must be a lot of thing like this
[00:14] <hiexpo> ricky_goop,  - google is your best friend
[00:14] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: heh
[00:14] <omani> everatime a start mutt i have the msgs there again
[00:14] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: ok, ty
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> anigma: why don't you just restore from backup?
[00:14] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: XD
[00:14] <Flannel> anigma: One thing you can do is move /home to a separate partition, and then reinstall Ubuntu around it.
[00:14] <hiexpo> ricky_goop, yep no prob
[00:14] <soadkombucha> anigma: Boot into recovery mode and "cp -r" the /home/username directory to a different drive
[00:14] <Flannel> !separatehome | anigma
[00:14] <flypiper> bot must be taking a nap... I need a wireless driver for 9.10 in non-free... does anybody know what I need to put in sources.list??
[00:14] <iceroot> omani: #mutt
[00:14] <omani> thx
[00:14] <soadkombucha> anigma: And then you could reinstall ubuntu and like Flannel said make /home a separate mount point on it's own partition
[00:14] <ZykoticK9> anigma, you could boot to a LiveCD and copy your files to another media
[00:15] <_ath> if anyone knows anything about xorg/fglrx, I'd appreciate it if they took a peek at this and, if they can provide it, give some advice: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1518556
[00:15] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: may i ask you another thing?
[00:15] <hiexpo> ricky_goop, sure
[00:15] <gionnico> is MBR of the livecd the first 512 bytes of ISO?
[00:15] <soadkombucha> flypiper: What wireless card do you have?
[00:16] <duffydack> 446 isnt it
[00:16] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: look, i have gnome and kde here
[00:16] <flypiper> soadkombucha, it's the intel/pro 3945
[00:16] <Uboy> iceroot I think what the mistake i did! when I'm trying to configure fingerprint sensor from this site > http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Installation > in term of instructions wants me to edit the file named > /etc/pam.d and u can see it in configure PAM section, I did that and after that this error appeared , can u see the page below and help me plz?
[00:16] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: i cant shutdown from kde
[00:16] <soadkombucha> flypiper: OK I was going to say if it's Realtek you can get proprietary drivers from their site and I have a good tutorial I used but let me look really quick
[00:16] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: `cause i use gdm
[00:16] <mattgyver> does ubuntu maintain a list of package versions that are contained within each released distro?
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> mattgyver: sure, you can ask ubottu
[00:17] <Typos_King> mattgyver:   yes
[00:17] <SlidingHorn> mattgyver, yes -- http://packages.ubuntu.com
[00:17] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: there is any way to shut from kde even if i continue using gdm?
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> mattgyver: use: !info packagename release
[00:17] <hiexpo> ricky_goop, yhats weird cause i use gnome and some gdm stuff also but no kde i hate it
[00:17] <Uboy> iceroot I think what the mistake i did! when I'm trying to configure fingerprint sensor from this site > http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Installation > in term of instructions wants me to edit the file named > /etc/pam.d and u can see it in configure PAM section, I did that and after that this error appeared , can u see the page below and help me plz?
[00:17] <flypiper> soadkombucha, I reinstalled 9.10 on my daughters HP DV6000 and the driver on the CD is broken..
[00:17] <mattgyver> Thanks guys, thats good information to know :)
[00:17] <soadkombucha> flypiper: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/how-to-install-intel-pro-ipw3945-wireless-drivers/
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> SlidingHorn: asking ubottu is a bit easier ;)
[00:17] <Typos_King> ricky_goop:    sudo poweroff; not working? :)
[00:18] <ZykoticK9> gionnico, i'm not sure ISO boot files are even in an "MBR" in the same way hard disks are.  i'm not sure man, good luck.
[00:18] <SlidingHorn> ActionParsnip, probably -- mattgyver follow action's suggestion instead :)
[00:18] <ricky_goop> no...
[00:18] <flypiper> soadkombucha, Thanks
[00:18] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: no...
[00:18] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Not a problem.
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> Typos_King: sudo shutdown -h now    will shutdown the pc
[00:18] <Uboy> iceroot I think what the mistake i did! when I'm trying to configure fingerprint sensor from this site > http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Installation > in term of instructions wants me to edit the file named > /etc/pam.d and u can see it in configure PAM section, I did that and after that this error appeared , can u see the page below and help me plz?
[00:18] <SlidingHorn> !repeat | uboy
[00:18] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: i have to logout and shutdown from the login screen
[00:18] <soadkombucha> Does anyone in here know how to properly compile the realtek high-def audio codecs for linux?
[00:18] <gionnico> ZykoticK9: i'm trying to create USB image from CD image
[00:18] <Typos_King> ricky_goop:  what about what ActionParsnip just said? sudo shutdown -h?
[00:18] <mattgyver> !info initramfs-tools lucid
[00:18] <gionnico> but i dont just copy cd image to usb because i need to edit some file
[00:19] <Uboy> ok, sorry guys
[00:19] <hiexpo> ricky_goop, is that a fresh install ?
[00:19] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: w8, i'll login in kde
[00:19] <gionnico> so I mount /mnt/cdrom with loop from ubuntu.iso and /mnt/usb
[00:19] <gionnico> then cp -r /mnt/cdrom/* /mnt/usb
[00:19] <gionnico> then i need the mbr I guess
[00:19] <SlidingHorn> !enter | gionnico
[00:19] <Uboy> iceroot are u here?
[00:20] <soadkombucha> gionnico: What if you tried getting the ISO image and adding the files to it and rebuilding it as bootable
[00:20] <hiexpo> ricky_goop,  ^ read what others are saying also please
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> gionnico: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/ubuntu.iso /mnt/cdrom; sudo ln -s /mnt/cdrom /mnt/usb
[00:20] <Jaker> hi
[00:20] <gionnico> soadkombucha: that's what i'm doing
[00:20] <soadkombucha> Hi Jaker
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> gionnico: assuming /mnt/cdrom exists. if not run: sudo mkdir /mnt/cdrom
[00:20] <soadkombucha> gionnico: Trying to copy it to USB? You could use unetbootin for Linux it has a GUI
[00:20] <ricky_goop> Typos_King: i'll login in kde
[00:21] <ricky_goop> Typos_King: w8\
[00:21] <gionnico> soadkombucha: i don't have a gui i'm working from ssh
[00:21] <gionnico> maybe i should use syslinux
[00:21] <Uboy> farsi zaboon hast onja?
[00:21] <soadkombucha> gionnico: Syslinux should work.
[00:22] <soadkombucha> flypiper: How's that tutorial going for you?
[00:22] <_ath> if anyone knows anything about xorg/fglrx, I'd appreciate it if they took a peek at this and, if they can provide it, give some advice: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1518556
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> _ath: you didnt add your xorg.conf file
[00:22] <Uboy> guys, what is the IDE for AVR developing with C?
[00:22] <_ath> ah one second ActionParsnip
[00:22] <_ath> i'll quickly paste my latest one
[00:22] <hiexpo> i know what the problem is he has all that kde stuff install in gnome now kde has overridin
[00:23] <profxavier> no /etc/init.d/samba ?
[00:23] <profxavier> how can I restart Samba ?
[00:23] <_ath> ActionParsnip: added it.
[00:23] <plainas> how do i activate universe and multiverse on lucid?
[00:23] <Uboy> profxavier reinstall package
[00:23] <orm> [ kd197] !fight arch ubuntu
[00:23] <orm> 19:16 [ phrik] kd197: arch: 8750000, ubuntu: 5940000
[00:23] <orm> thought you ought to know
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> plainas: use software sources under: System -> admin
[00:24] <profxavier> Uboy: its installed
[00:24] <Daekdroom> !ot | orm
[00:24] <Uboy> I know, Remove and reinstall again
[00:24] <plainas> mmm they are already active... strange, can't seen to find winwrangler in there
[00:25] <soadkombucha> Does anyone know if a repository for the proprietary realtek wireless LAN drivers exists?
[00:25] <hiexpo> !samba
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> soadkombucha: it needs compiling
[00:25] <Uboy> u can copy back up with  >> cp /etc/init.d/samba  ~/Samba
[00:25] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: I'm aware. I've been doing it by hand.
[00:26] <Uboy> and before that > mkdir ~/Samba
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> soadkombucha: set one up dude
[00:26] <Uboy> reinstall package and copy the backup
[00:26] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: I don't have a server to run a repository off of. Plus linuxwiki has a really good tutorial. 10.04 has a really annoying fix that I wrote a shell script for
[00:26] <Uboy> your files works, your shell doesnt khow the levels
[00:27] <profxavier> Uboy, odd, but I tried to -reinstall- samba
[00:27] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: So a repository might not work very well anyways. Plus I only have the rtl8191_se, which uses the same as rtl8192_se and only those two as far as I know
[00:27] <profxavier> it did, but still the same issue, nothing in /etc/init.d
[00:27] <Uboy> ok, what happened?
[00:28] <Uboy> profaxvier u can make that dir bye hand
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> soadkombucha: you'd need to compile it for every kernel going as not all users will be using the latest kernel
[00:29] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: And as of right now I don't have that kind of time. If you look the tutorial isn't too difficult to find.
[00:29] <Uboy> bye=by
[00:29] <Uboy> sorry guys I'm so tired
[00:29] <Uboy> bye
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> soadkombucha: make a script, when you get a new script just run the script :)
[00:29] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: A script to autocompile the driver?
[00:29] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: I'm gonna go work on that.
[00:30] <profxavier> hmmm
[00:30] <_ath> ActionParsnip: you had a chance to look at it?
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> soadkombucha: sure, jut keep the source for the driver in teh same place, you can use the defined constants in linux as well as uname in various guises to set stuff up nice
[00:30] <profxavier> anyone else, wanna try and troubleshoot why I have samba installed, but I cannot restart the service using /etc/init.d/samba
[00:31] <_ath> profxavier: can you stop it?
[00:31] <profxavier> its smbd, not samba
[00:31] <profxavier> i believe
[00:32] <Tootoot222> yes, it is smbd
[00:32] <LifeEscalade> hi guys
[00:32]  * LifeEscalade bows down to jpds
[00:32] <feanus> lol
[00:33] <LifeEscalade> sup feanus
[00:33] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: Yeah I set it as ~/
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> soadkombucha: could be dead handy
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> _ath: post again
[00:34] <_ath> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1518556
[00:34] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: The only problem is I'll have to modify the script if an updated driver version comes out
[00:34] <LifeEscalade> anyone know a good vnc server/client combo to use?
[00:34] <profxavier> anyone develop iphone apps in Ubuntu ?
[00:34] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: But that's just changing version names in directories and the .tar.gz file
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> _ath: set some refresh rates in your monitor section. it may not be reoprting them properly
[00:34] <cntrational> 1377 nicks
[00:34] <cntrational> what
[00:35] <_ath> ActionParsnip: it didn't work with them set either.
[00:35] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: I'm going to be rebooting from an Ubuntu update I'll be back in a few minutes
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> soadkombucha: you could just have a folder called source, the version number would be moot then
[00:35] <DrKenobi> anyone uses Sugar in ubuntu?
[00:35] <_ath> besides, that wouldn't explain locking the entire machine until power cycle / ctrl + alt + sysrq + b
[00:36] <cntrational> shouldn't it be "Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid) has been released!"
[00:37] <Jaker> I am a Russian user ubuntu greetings to you from Russia!!
[00:37] <bazhang> Jaker, did you have a support question?
[00:38] <cntrational> Jaker: hi
[00:38] <Jaker> Yes
[00:38] <bazhang> Jaker, then please ask
[00:38] <Jaker> cntrational hi
[00:38] <plainas> can anybody tell me where to find winwrangler debs?
[00:39] <plainas> I even added the developer's own ppa reository and still can't find it by search through apt
[00:39] <Jaker> You were in Moscow?
[00:40] <bazhang> plainas, did you sudo apt-get update
[00:40] <bazhang> Jaker, please keep the channel for ubuntu support questions only; chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> plainas: you will need to run: sudo apt-get update   after you add the ppa
[00:41] <plainas> ActionParsnip, i did
[00:42] <wajimba> How do I use [ctrl]+[alt]+f2 to kill the current session and launch a new one?
[00:42] <profxavier> anyone develop iphone apps in Ubuntu ?
[00:43] <Jaker> well, OK
[00:43] <notebook> howcan i download itunes for ubuntu???
[00:43] <plainas> mmmm ok... i checked the output a bit more carefully W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kamstrup/ppa/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[00:43] <profxavier> notebook, you cannot, but there are similar applications, what did you want to do exactly ?
[00:43] <bazhang> notebook, there is no itunes for ubuntu
[00:43] <LifeEscalade> has anyone used vnc to remotely connect from win7 to 10.04 server?
[00:43] <Typos_King> !ipod | notebook
[00:44] <notebook> howcan i download itunes for ubuntu??????
[00:44] <profxavier> LifeEscalade, server, meaning the command line ?
[00:44] <bazhang> notebook, you cannot, please don't repeat
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> notebook: bazhang : some versions of itunes work with some versions of wine
[00:44] <LifeEscalade> no server edition
[00:44] <Typos_King> screw itunes, is just a 250mbs piece of bloatware :P
[00:44] <aretrfre34> laptop hasn't /dev/radio0 is it means i cant play radio?
[00:44] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, barely
[00:44] <kermit> how does ubuntu pay for all the bandwidth they must be using?
[00:44] <LifeEscalade> i went nu-school and installed kde on server edition :P
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: ipods barely work too ;)
[00:44] <Daekdroom> kermit, Canonical
[00:44] <Vexille> kermit: ubuntu is run by a level 27 wizard
[00:45] <notebook> well is there something that i can download that is like itunes that i can download to put songs on my ipod touch???
[00:45] <LifeEscalade> lawls
[00:45] <aretrfre34> i mean real radio
[00:45] <kermit> Daekdroom: ty
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> notebook: banshee
[00:45] <notebook> thank you
[00:45] <bazhang> notebook, there are several; rhythmbox is one
[00:45] <Vexille> notebook: your question was answered already. scroll up and look for the responses
[00:45] <Daekdroom> Rhythmbox itself can do it.
[00:45] <Typos_King> !rhythmbox | notebook
[00:45] <alasca> notebook,  Listen, the guys have explained you what to do. If you are a troll please /part.
[00:45] <plainas> mmmm ok, it appears that the guy maintains the repo didn't added packges for lucid
[00:45] <plainas> whatever... i'll just install this one:
[00:46] <aretrfre34> or i need radio module using headset?
[00:46] <cntrational> does empathy not support file transfers
[00:46] <wajimba> anybody? how do I kill the current session and start a new one using tty?
[00:46] <Vexille> cntrational: only for certain protocols i.e. people nearby can do it
[00:46] <AndrewX192> !netbook
[00:46] <duffydack> notebook, forget itunes, use ubuntuone account with ryhthmbox
[00:46] <cntrational> I'm not sure of what "people nearby" actually is <.<
[00:46] <Typos_King> wajimba:  why you need to do that?
[00:46] <plainas> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kamstrup/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/w/winwrangler/
[00:47] <Daekdroom> cntrational, well, I'm sure it doesn't have file transfer over MSN
[00:47] <cntrational> anyway what
[00:47] <cntrational> why would it not support something like that
[00:47] <Daekdroom> Empathy is kinda recent.
[00:47] <alasca> cntrational,  I don't know about empathy sorry, file transfer in Pidgin works.
[00:47] <wajimba> typos_king: it froze and I don't want to take the entire system down
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> notebook: or gtkpod, easier to get a decent player. You have a device from one of the most shortsighted and closed mnded companys around
[00:47] <cntrational> then why is it GNOME's new default IM app
[00:48] <Daekdroom> Because it was made by GNOME team.
[00:48] <notebook> is there a chat thing like messanger that will work on ubuntu???
[00:48] <_ath> If you know anything about the ati proprietary drivers running under 10.04 LTS, please have a look at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1518556
[00:48] <aretrfre34> laptop hasn't /dev/radio0 is it means i cant play radio?
[00:48] <Typos_King> wajimba:    just use alt-f1 through alt-f6 either will give you a console session
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> notebook: emesene or amsn or pidgin
[00:48] <bazhang> notebook, there are several
[00:48] <bazhang> notebook, I would suggest you have a read of the ubuntu manual
[00:48] <bazhang> !manual | notebook
[00:49] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: So even when I used synaptics to remove an old kernel (this one is running stably), the grub entries didn't delete. Is it gonna be a problem that I "sudo rm /boot/..." the old vmlinuz and init files?
[00:49] <Uboy> hi againguys
[00:49] <Typos_King> !pidgin | notebook
[00:49] <cntrational> "ubottu"
[00:49] <wajimba> typos_king: yeah, what's the command to launch gnome? I tried xstart and it says "server is already active for display 0"
[00:49] <_ath> wajimba: gdm
[00:49] <Vexille> cntrational: you've got me on that one. i imagine because of something to do with the telepathy framework; there must be something about it that is preferred?
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> soadkombucha: try: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> soadkombucha: make sure it is removed with: dpkg -l | grep linux-image-2
[00:50] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: After I finish installing Cheese
[00:50] <Typos_King> wajimba:    ..... there's one... to restrart the GDM? or the window manager compiz/metacity?
[00:50] <coz_> cesc,
[00:50] <coz_> hey guy
[00:50] <coz_> cesc,   hey guy
[00:50] <wajimba> yeah, how do I restart the gdm
[00:50] <TaskbarGone> Is there a way to mashup "apt-cache search <SearchTerm>" & "dpkg -l" - so that given a SearchTerm, it would find all the related package names in the cache, then do a "dpkg -l" on those package names?
[00:51] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: Only one file is found however. So I can continue installing software,
[00:51] <Typos_King> !gdm | wajimba
[00:51] <_ath> wajimba: gdm will start with X
[00:51] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: But I will write a script to perform that function
[00:51] <Uboy> guys I try to change my pass with this instruction > http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword using the GRUB but when I choose the recovery mode the white page 2 (contains Drop to root shell prompt) does't appear and the GRUB stopped in lines.... cn any body help me?
[00:51] <Typos_King> hehe, wrong shot ^_^
[00:52] <hanasaki> anyone running acidbase?  for some reason it cannot connect to my DB....
[00:52] <cntrational> i wonder if anybody has made an ubuntu derivative called "isintu" or "abantu" or some other isiZulu prefix using -ntu
[00:52] <wajimba> typos_king, _ath, !gdm isn't working either
[00:52] <cntrational> *affix
[00:52] <Uboy> guys I try to change my pass with this instruction > http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword using the GRUB but when I choose the recovery mode the white page 2 (contains Drop to root shell prompt) does't appear and the GRUB stopped in lines.... cn any body help me?
[00:52] <_ath> wajimba: what exactly are you trying to do.
[00:53] <Typos_King> wajimba:  right.... there's one I think, I believe is ... gconf line, the bot has it, just can't recall the alias/trigger
[00:53] <aretrfre34> Uboy:GRUB is boot load you can reset passes using it
[00:53] <wajimba> _ath: the current session froze, trying to start a new one without taking the whole system down
[00:53] <LifeEscalade> so honestly how bad is it when apache states: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[00:54] <_ath> wajimba: change to that screen, and ctrl alt backspace
[00:54] <_ath> ?
[00:54] <_ath> tried that?
[00:54] <aretrfre34> Uboy:just hit esc and select recovery mod from grub list
[00:54] <Typos_King> LifeEscalade:  regular MO
[00:54] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: I am glad I've been reading an ubuntu book... It's for 8.04 and 8.10 but I've learned a decent chunk from it already
[00:54] <LifeEscalade> Typos_King: So its cool it says that?
[00:54] <Uboy> aretrfte34 yes I did that but the GRUb stopped after I select Recovery Mode fro Grub list
[00:55] <aretrfre34> Uboy:did you touch grub files?
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> soadkombucha: never read it myself, i just used the OS and learned
[00:55] <Typos_King> LifeEscalade:    yes, I think it just means whatever it found on the httpd.conf or other .conf's for the ServerName or such directive, didn't go through or is not found, I think it does that when there's none set
[00:55] <_ath> wajimba: by changing to the X screen i mean ctrl + alt + F7
[00:55] <Uboy> aretrfte34 normally we must see the page white in this link/ true? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[00:55] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: My friend had it so I figured why not. The internet is useful but I learn really well from books.
[00:56] <NetScr1be> Clean install of Ubuntu 9.04 (jaunty) connects to wifi but won't resolve any addresses
[00:56] <dominicdinada> NetScr1be: Are you using the correct authentication method
[00:56] <soadkombucha> What's the package name that installs all the non-free common files?
[00:56] <dominicdinada> soadkombucha: Conical Partners?
[00:56] <NetScr1be> WPA PSK
[00:56] <_ath> wajimba: if gdm has already died, but X is still running, kill X and restart it.
[00:56] <Typos_King> soadkombucha:    I think is the Restricted packages, not sure though
[00:57] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: There's a package that installs Java and audio codecs
[00:57] <wajimba> _ath: yeah, that's got it. Thx :)
[00:57] <_ath> wajimba: yw.
[00:57] <Uboy> aretrfte34?
[00:57] <cntrational> so, I use the Compose key to enter characters; but GTK+ and Qt applications use different combinations — ".." is … in GTK, but it's ˙ in Qt
[00:57] <_ath> wajimba: for future reference, ctrl alt backspace tries to restart the X server.
[00:57] <alasca> !ubuntu-restricted-extras | soadkombucha
[00:57] <soadkombucha> alasca: Thank you I had just found it
[00:57] <cntrational> is there a way to have them use the same combinations
[00:57] <_ath> wajimba:  so if you get gui problems that look terminal, that's your first port of call.
[00:57] <NetScr1be> same as on this system WPA/WPA2
[00:57] <_ath> terminal ie cancer.
[00:57] <_ath> not tty.
[00:57] <aretrfre34> Uboy:don't ever touch system files unless you know what are you doing
[00:58] <matt____> Hiya, I was looking for a little simple help on formatting an external HDD with gparted... i select the HD in the list of sdb devices, but i can't select 'Format to' - why is this likely to be? Thanks!
[00:58] <Uboy> aretrfte34:  yes, i think
[00:58] <Typos_King> soadkombucha:   I install those separately :)
[00:58] <soadkombucha> aretrfre34: What if you're using a very detailed tutorial?
[00:58] <_ath> aretrfre34: that's a pretty bad guideline..
[00:58] <Vexille> Uboy: yeah you are supposed to see that menu upon choosing recovery mode in grub, but you said you aren't getting anywhere. Do you have more than one kernel installed to just try recovery mode on a different version?
[00:58] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: I use all of them. I don't WANT to have Flash installed but I'm still on firefox for now I just installed Chrome. Thankfully they have internal flash in the stable builds now
[00:58] <soadkombucha> Is Amarok KDE?
[00:59] <_ath> aretrfre34: one it restricts you enormously, two you don't get to have as much fun(http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Fun) / learn.
[00:59] <cntrational> soadkombucha: yes
[00:59] <aretrfre34> laptop hasn't /dev/radio0 is it means i cant play radio?
[00:59] <soadkombucha> cntrational: OK I'll need to install Kubuntu Restricted to use it then even if I'm under Gnome?
[00:59] <Uboy> aretrfre34: I'm just follow this instructions to configure my fingerprint sensor  http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Installation
[00:59] <cntrational> no, you don't
[00:59] <_ath> no soadkombucha
[00:59] <lfitz> is there a way to customize the them of notify-send, i have x forwarded on my sheeva to send notifications to my laptop using a script, but i get the standard blue and white notify-send notifications
[00:59] <_ath> gnome / kde apps can run under either dm.
[00:59] <soadkombucha> cntrational: Odd last time I did Ubuntu restricted it didn't play any of my audio files
[00:59] <cntrational> soadkombucha: GNOME will support KDE apps and vice versa
[00:59] <lfitz> i would like to receive the black ubuntu notifications..
[00:59] <Uboy> vexille: no one kernak
[00:59] <NetScr1be> ok it just started working
[00:59] <lfitz> using 10.04
[01:00] <soadkombucha> cntrational: That's why I was curious. Because I was having issues before.
[01:00] <dominicdinada> NetScr1be: What did you select differently ?
[01:00] <Typos_King> soadkombucha:    they do not afaik, I got chrome recently, didn't come with flash, you can always just get the libflashplayer.so file by itself or extract it from the .zip for installation and drop it at /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and chrome/opera/firefox use that
[01:00] <cntrational> soadkombucha: it'll take up more RAM to run programs like that, though, since they'd have to load more stuff
[01:00] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: Is not not on Debian based linux yet?
[01:00] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: I know internal flash is on Windows
[01:00] <_ath> cntrational: at the moment that's largely irrelevant
[01:01] <_ath> and soon to be entirely.
[01:01] <Typos_King> soadkombucha:    ubuntu is, yes
[01:01] <Uboy> aretrfre34: see this page > http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage  Upper page I'm sent is wrong
[01:01] <cntrational> _ath: is it?
[01:01] <NetScr1be> dominicdinada, that's the weird part - it just started working
[01:01] <_ath> cntrational: yes.
[01:01] <crdlb> lfitz: I'm not sure I understand your setup, but the difference is between notify-osd and notification-daemon
[01:01] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: I know Chrome is, but they haven't released stable with internal flash yet.
[01:01] <cntrational> soadkombucha: exaile is a amarok inspired music player for GNOME
[01:01] <NetScr1be> dominicdinada, actually I 6ook etho down
[01:01] <NetScr1be> took
[01:01] <soadkombucha> cntrational: If Amarok decides to continue being odd I'll use it. I was upset when they discontinued songbird support for Linux.
[01:02] <aretrfre34> Uboy:ok, see, how many reasonable people around
[01:02] <_ath> NetScr1be: you did ifconfig eth0 down
[01:02] <Typos_King> soadkombucha:  chrome is debian based?  not sure on that, I know is based on Chromium the browser
[01:02] <_ath> and it came up by itself?
[01:02] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: They have a debian release for Chrome
[01:02] <dominicdinada> soadkombucha: cntrational there is also the default rythmbox
[01:02] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: chrome.google.com gives you a download
[01:02] <aretrfre34> laptop hasn't /dev/radio0 is it means i cant play radio?
[01:02] <crdlb> lfitz: notify-osd is the ubuntu one
[01:02] <soadkombucha> dominicdinada: I hate rythmbox
[01:02] <Vexille> Uboy: try this guide for using a livecd to reset your password http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-ubuntu-password-easily-from-the-live-cd/
[01:02] <cntrational> _ath: what's going to happen that it'll become irrelavant
[01:02] <_ath> aretrfre34: yes.
[01:02] <aretrfre34> wanna fun
[01:03] <Typos_King> soadkombucha:  surely, that doesn't mean is debian based per se,but I see what you mean, either way, the libflashplayer.so drag/drop will work just the same :)
[01:03] <dominicdinada> soadkombucha: To each their own I hate vlc and totem as well
[01:03] <thune3> matt____: the partitions may have been automatically mounted when you plugged in the device. In this case you need  to unmount them first.
[01:03] <_ath> cntrational: the cost of manufacturing hardware is continuing on the same course it has been; not only that, higher level frameworks are, with extra resources, becoming excellent at handling them.
[01:03] <SlidingHorn> soadkombucha, Typos_King: You can also take a look at Chromium, which is in the repos -- in my *personal experience* it has worked better than the actual chrome
[01:03] <cntrational> one thing that annoys me about rhythmbox and exaile is that you can't play a single song, it has to be part of a playlist
[01:04] <hiexpo> did i miss much i was in pentoo
[01:04] <aretrfre34> _ath:a lot of reasonable people or i cant play real radio?
[01:04]  * Typos_King uses mainly Opera :)
[01:04] <soadkombucha> SlidingHorn: Chrome stable is working well. There is only one difference between Chrome and chromium. Well two.
[01:04] <_ath> cntrational: soon enough, for running Qt apps on windows, or kde apps on gnome, 'it uses up more memory' won't mean anything.
[01:04] <soadkombucha> SlidingHorn: Chrome and Chromium have a different colored logo, and Chrome has the google tracking app. Otherwise they're identical.
[01:04] <Vexille> Uboy: The steps should be similar to what you were using as a guide before, but this just uses the livecd to mount your hard drive and chroot to it so yo ucan perform the same steps as in the guide you posted
[01:04] <_ath> cntrational: and in a lot of cases, it does now.
[01:04] <soadkombucha> I need to compile enlightenment er17...
[01:04] <alasca> Typos_King,  Don't like Firefox?
[01:04] <_ath> aretrfre34: if you don't have a radio device, you cannot 'play' radio.
[01:04] <soadkombucha> alasca: In my experience firefox can hog resources.
[01:05] <hiexpo> is chrome better that firefox?
[01:05] <soadkombucha> hiexpo: Depends.
[01:05] <SlidingHorn> !best | hiexpo
[01:05] <_ath> aretrfre34:  i don't know how to simplify that any more.
[01:05] <SlidingHorn> :)
[01:05] <cntrational> Firefox doesn't take up that much resources if you restart it every now and then
[01:05] <soadkombucha> hiexpo: Chrome separates each tab into a separate process, so if you use LOTS of tabs, Chrome has benefits. It's Javascript is faster too.
[01:05] <Uboy> Vexille:  ok, I read that know and i got it, before it, can u answer a questuin >  I change a portion of file with this instruction> http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage  > is it my fault?
[01:05] <alasca> soadkombucha,  Yes, this is right...firefox is a bit greedy on resources...sadly...
[01:05] <cntrational> and try not to have a million tabs open
[01:05] <cntrational> (cursed tvtropes)
[01:05] <soadkombucha> hiexpo: But Opera 5 has benchmarked JS speed tests at 25% faster than Chromium 6 Developer
[01:05] <_ath> hiexpo: i've personally found chrome to run faster under nix and windows.
[01:05] <aretrfre34> _ath:got it, just wanted some fun, compiled for mplayer source rised core cpu 100C, isn't funny now!
[01:06] <hiexpo> SlidingHorn,  - don'tsend me the bot best   lol i knew that was gonna happen
[01:06] <Uboy> vexille: for configuring fingerprint sensor
[01:06] <Typos_King> alasca:   have it installed too, chrome/firefox lack the flexibility Opera has for a few things, window manipulations and other stuff, their beta1 10.6 is quite good
[01:06] <_ath> aretrfre34: then remove it and recompile it without that radio make flag.
[01:06] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: There is one thing I dislike about Chrome over Firefox.
[01:06] <_ath> aretrfre34: if you compiled it yourself you should probably know that.
[01:06] <coz_> cesc,   hey guy did you need something?
[01:06] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: Greasemonkey for firefox, the userscripts for chrome don't support unsignedwindow or the gm_* values. So you can't run ALL userscripts in chrome.
[01:06] <aretrfre34> _ath:noo, fun was to hack!
[01:07] <_ath> aretrfre34: then enjoy your short lived processor.
[01:07] <soadkombucha> Switching to Chrome
[01:08] <avelldiroll> in my experience chromium starts faster but hogs more ressources than firefox
[01:08] <dominicdinada> chrome is pretty fast under linux
[01:08] <hiexpo> !everyone | don't send me bot stuff i help here too looll
[01:08] <_ath> avelldiroll: agreed, under nix anyway, either way, i've found it performs faster on both nix / win platforms
[01:08] <soadkombucha> That's better.
[01:08] <_ath> unfortunately it doesn't quite have the plugin support firefox has.
[01:09] <_ath> which is probably the biggest deciding factor for most people to whom these things matter.
[01:09] <soadkombucha> _ath: Not completely true.
[01:09] <matt____> thune3: Thanks! That worked. Many thanks.
[01:09] <_ath> soadkombucha: what isn't.
[01:09] <soadkombucha> _ath: There are lots of plugins for Chrome that perform really nice functions
[01:09] <soadkombucha> _ath: And the extension gallery is growing fast
[01:09] <_ath> soadkombucha: yes, there are, but theres lots more for firefox, that perform better, most of the time.
[01:09] <_ath> soadkombucha: but we're in the present.
[01:09] <Typos_King> _ath:   and lacks configuration flexibility, I checked all available options, I think I can count them to less than 50 hehehe
[01:10] <soadkombucha> _ath: The only extensions I found to work better than firefox, are google extensions
[01:10] <_ath> soadkombucha: reread what i said.
[01:10] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: Pretty much everything lacks configuration flexibility over firefox's about:config
[01:10] <greezmunkey> Typos_King: have you looked at about:config within FF?
[01:10] <soadkombucha> Nothing is as configurable as Firefox
[01:11] <greezmunkey> soadkombucha:  :)
[01:11] <soadkombucha> greezmunkey: Trust me, I love Firefox, I actually converted almost everyone I know to it. But I'm a heavy tab user, so Chrome works better for me.
[01:11] <dominicdinada> _ath:  as for the plugin support FireFox is 7 years old and chrome really is like a year old from stable builds...
[01:11] <soadkombucha> dominicdinada: And developing more rapidly than firefox ever has
[01:12] <Typos_King> greezmunkey:   yes, doesn't compare to Opera's, opera has countless options, thus the flexibility I use :), doesn't hog the memory like FF and runs smooth enough, chrome uses less than half memory Opera does, but is  pretty configurationless
[01:12] <_ath> dominicdinada: correct. the question wasn't, 'what browser will be better in perhaps a year or two?'
[01:12] <_ath> dominicdinada: as i said, we're not time travellers, and we're arguing about the present state.
[01:12] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: But Chrome doesn't need too much configuration out of the box in my opinion.
[01:12] <dominicdinada> soadkombucha: Correct... so plugins are not all built for chrome but will be ported since FF is playing the catchup game :D
[01:12] <greezmunkey> well...that was fun
[01:12] <soadkombucha> dominicdinada: the browser war is becoming negligible anyways.
[01:13] <soadkombucha> The only browser I say don't use is any IE-based browser
[01:13] <Vexille> Uboy: I am unfamiliar with anything involving setting up fingerprint readers. The info there states it will try to read your fingerprint first before using your password, so if that is true then I imagine it isn't supposed to make your login stop working, but liek I said I am unfamiliar with is so who knows :(
[01:13] <_ath> soadkombucha: I'd also say don't use konqueror
[01:13] <duffydack> Since I got my fonts looking right (removing that damn ttf-msttfonts package) I`m using chromium
[01:13] <_ath> and i'm a kde fanboy.
[01:13] <soadkombucha> _ath: What engine does it run off of?
[01:13] <dominicdinada> soadkombucha: It is not a war as google and FF are allies, But when Chrome dropped it is the fastest thing out, and FF said they moving to a new javascript core
[01:13] <_ath> soadkombucha: christ knows, probably dolphin, the kde explorer.
[01:13] <_ath> it's kde's equivalent of IE.
[01:14] <Typos_King> soadkombucha:    depends on what you do, for plain browsing, no, true, for one thing, I have flash off, and turn it on whenever I need it, like for a clip or news ticker or other stuff, in Opera is just 2 clicks for that, there's no such in chrome/ff
[01:14] <dominicdinada> soadkombucha: Some websites still force IE :( but thats what plugins are for
[01:14] <duffydack> _ath, thats not a good advertisement
[01:14] <greezmunkey> heh
[01:14] <soadkombucha> _ath: Ahh. I like Nautilus
[01:14] <_ath> duffydack: from personal use i've found it to be a terrible browser.
[01:14] <aretrfre34> how do i get info about how old is cpu
[01:14] <kryl> hi
[01:14] <hiexpo> i'm sticking to firefox than
[01:14] <dominicdinada> _ath: imo dolphin is was to bloated,resource hungry
[01:14] <Typos_King> aretrfre34:  how old? what do you mean?
[01:14] <_ath> dominicdinada: can't agree with you there.
[01:15] <Knoxville>   how much memory do you reccomend for a caching only bind9 server for 2 users on a LAN?
[01:15] <N3VV3K> hey does anyone know hoow to turn off motion
[01:15] <soadkombucha> dominicdinada: Or you just use useragents
[01:15] <_ath> i was just saying konqueror is a shitty browser.
[01:15] <soadkombucha> konqueror is KHTML
[01:15] <N3VV3K> to turn it on was sudo motion how do i turn it off
[01:15] <soadkombucha> Google chrome and Safari are KHTML forks due to Webkit
[01:15] <duffydack> I`ll use Chromium daily.  It starts before I even de-press the mouse button and loads pages hella fast
[01:15] <soadkombucha> duffydack: I use Chrome, but that's because google owns my internet life and it integrates nicely with google
[01:16] <_ath> To those with ati driver experience, please have a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1518556
[01:16] <dominicdinada> soadkombucha: When I was in school websites for the school and resources where based around IE for example the online blackboards. Cbtnuggets.com etc... would only work with IE
[01:16] <_ath> dominicdinada: cbtnuggets lol
[01:16] <soadkombucha> Haha
[01:16] <soadkombucha> I need to restart chrome
[01:16] <Typos_King> N3VV3K:    I guess I don't use 'motion', soooo dunno
[01:16] <cntrational> "cbtnuggets"? what's that
[01:16] <_ath> cntrational: it's a like, service that provides learning resources for technical subjects
[01:16] <_ath> cntrational: ie, 'passing your CCNA
[01:16] <_ath> '
[01:16] <duffydack> _ath, I have an ati 4650 working fine.. mates 36xx works fine too
[01:17] <cntrational> is it good
[01:17] <aretrfre34> Typos_King:i mean assembly time
[01:17] <Knoxville>   how much memory do you reccomend for a caching only bind9 server for 2 users on a LAN?v
[01:17] <dominicdinada> cntrational: some dumb videos our profs made us watch because the school paid like $20,000 per semester for use
[01:17] <_ath> duffydack: thanks for taking a look. and fuck.
[01:17] <IdleOne> !language | _ath
[01:17] <duffydack> _ath, tried xorg edgers ppa?
[01:17] <_ath> duffydack: yeah
[01:17] <Typos_King> aretrfre34:    get the name and model, you can find that online, the manufacturer's site or some other archive will have it
[01:17] <duffydack> _ath, and proposed repos
[01:18] <greezmunkey> I am looking around for a decent (free) radius server, one that isn't too much of a bother to setup and maintain. FreeRadius, and Radiator seem to be the two likely candidates, but I am looking for a recommendation from someone who has delt with them. Suggestions?
[01:18] <_ath> duffydack: for what? xorg?
[01:18] <cntrational> what's a radius server
[01:18] <duffydack> _ath, I get 3d accel without ati driver.. dont you?
[01:18] <Typos_King> aretrfre34:    we may even know too, what's the name and model or codename if any?
[01:18] <dominicdinada> cntrational: for those that no nothing it provides insight... for those who do it is a snooze
[01:18] <greezmunkey> cntrational: authentication server
[01:18] <N3VV3K> why would you say anything if you dont know <Typos_King>
[01:18] <duffydack> _ath, I mean its not quite as fast but its there.
[01:18] <N3VV3K> what do u  use anyway
[01:19] <cntrational> i use "you" instead of "u"
[01:19] <aretrfre34> Typos_King:name and model i know to
[01:20] <N3VV3K> so id this place just filled with assholes or actual help
[01:20] <dominicdinada> !language | N3VV3K
[01:20] <soadkombucha> Wow I love this Enlightenment tutorial... So easy to get it compiled and running
[01:20] <Typos_King> N3VV3K:     why would I say anything?   well, to ensure you're asking the right question, it happens, often times folks ask for 'other' things in extraneous fashion
[01:21] <dr4c4n> I just wanted to mention the issue I had with my dvd player earlier has been solved, but only by going back to version 9.04 without doing the updates.. I'm not sure which update breaks dvd playback.. but there is one..
[01:21] <NetScr1be> is this the right to set eth0 to dhcp? auto eth0 (CR LF) iface etho inet dynamic
[01:21] <cntrational> what's enlightenment
[01:21] <dr4c4n> how do I report a bug for this if i'm not sure which package or kernel update to report the bug on?
[01:21] <Typos_King> cntrational:     window manager
[01:21] <hiexpo> enlightment is a desktop
[01:21] <NetScr1be> right way
[01:21] <soadkombucha> hiexpo: Yup.
[01:21] <soadkombucha> cntrational: It's beta.
[01:22] <Typos_King> beta?
[01:22] <soadkombucha> cntrational: http://enlightenment.org/
[01:22] <vodl> hi, can I update my network manager on ubuntu 8.04 to the one found in 9.10 and later so I can visually edit networks?
[01:22] <Typos_King> version 5 I think is in beta, olders' aren't :P
[01:22] <sebsebseb> vodl: not easilly, and trying to might brake your system
[01:22] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: I'm installing e17
[01:22] <cesc> hi guys.. which button or button combination should I press to see all my windows side by side without overlapping?
[01:22] <sebsebseb> vodl: well your not meant to install from 9.10 repo
[01:23] <sebsebseb> vodl: why not just upgrade to 9.10,  it has untill  the end of April next year when it comes to support just like 8.04
[01:23] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: My friend's friend writes a blog, and he has a REALLY easy tutorial (plus a shell script) to get enlightenment running: http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2010/05/howto-install-e17-from-svnsource-on.html
[01:23] <dominicdinada> 8.04 LTS ranout didnt it :O
[01:23] <cntrational> by window manager, do you mean something like GNOME or X11?
[01:23] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: not yet
[01:23] <soadkombucha> dominicdinada: Shouldn't have it's only been 2 years
[01:23] <sebsebseb> vodl: for the desktop
[01:23] <soadkombucha> And some of the packages have 5 year support
[01:23] <hiexpo> pentoo uses an enlightment desktop as in referancce
[01:23] <sebsebseb> soadkombucha: only the server edition
 i need the 8.04 version of wine to run some window apps, that's what"s keeping me from upgrading
[01:24] <Typos_King> soadkombucha:    to get enlightment running? hehe, there's nothing to it AFAIK, I used to run it in SuSE10, no fuss, is a bit fancy window manager, is all
[01:24] <sebsebseb> vodl: Which Windows apps?
[01:24] <Adman65> how can I configure rsync? I don't have /etc/rsyncd.conf
[01:24] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: Well to install it from source.
[01:24] <vodl> adobe dreamweaver  and photoshop cs2
[01:24] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: Plus he took the time to give you ALL the dependencies you need to install
 adobe dreamweaver  and photoshop cs2
[01:24] <sebsebseb> vodl: you can install a earlier verison of Wine into 9.10, and those should work with the 9.10 version anyway
[01:25] <greezmunkey> cesc: check into X-Tile
[01:25] <Typos_King> soadkombucha:    .... well... hehe, is not a bad manager, is light too
[01:25] <cesc> a noob question: how to see all opened windows side by side (like a mosaic) without overlaping each other? which button should I press to get this?
[01:25] <sebsebseb> vodl: also when doing the upgrade if you tell it not to upgrade Wine
[01:25] <hiexpo> i think enlightment is gonna replace kde
[01:25] <sebsebseb> vodl: you can probably just use the 8.04 version in 9.10
[01:25]  * dominicdinada never used 8.04 but BT4 is 8.04 :)
 on winehq it says they run lousy under other versions than 8.04, or am I mistakenly interpreting that chart?
[01:26] <Baba_b00ie> in ubuntu 10.04, can i set it up to boot straight to Cli instead of GUI?
[01:26] <Typos_King> enlightment....who? kde what?
[01:26] <mdg> How do I tell what video card I have via CLI?
[01:26] <Typos_King> heheh
[01:26] <sebsebseb> vodl: if you mean appdb,  a lot of the info in appdb is out dated
[01:26] <Baba_b00ie> mdg, lspci -vvv | grep video
[01:26] <soadkombucha> Is there a program for Ubuntu that replaces the default copy manager? Similar to TeraCopy for Windows? I'm just curious linux doesn't need it but it'd be nice to know it was there
[01:26] <cesc> C'mon guys ... please answer my question
[01:27] <sebsebseb> vodl: also are you sure the network manager you want isn't in 9.04?
[01:27] <SlidingHorn> !patience | cesc
[01:27] <SlidingHorn> cesc -- also, greezmunkey already gave you a possible solution
[01:27] <Typos_King> mdg:     lshw -C video
[01:27] <delinquentme> anyone know what the command line tag is to allow the editor to close only the file which was OPENED
[01:27] <sebsebseb> vodl: 9.04 runs out of support end of  October
[01:27] <cesc> sorry, I'm new.
[01:27] <delinquentme> then return to the current location on the command line?
[01:28] <sebsebseb> vodl: anyway the later network manager or whatever it was, you can probably install that into 8.04 really
[01:28] <sebsebseb> vodl: a ppa or something possibily
 don't think so, i looked for it under preferences but there's no network connections there, just net tools
 http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=7694
[01:28] <supernothing> cesc: you can do this using compiz-fusion. if you install ccsm then you can get access to all the advanced settings
[01:28] <mdg> Baba_b00ie: thanks for responding, but the grep video part didn't work
[01:28] <Typos_King> delinquentme:   'the editor'? what editor?
[01:28] <Typos_King> mdg:     lshw -C video
 that's what I was ref. to
[01:28] <cntrational> Typos_King: gedit, probably
[01:29] <Typos_King> dunno, I use Geany, jEdit, and others
[01:29] <hiexpo> aloso need simple ccsm
[01:29] <supernothing> cesc: sorry, it's been renamed. now it's called compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:29] <delinquentme> gedit
[01:29] <patx> what packages do i need to install if i need to run a "python setup.py install" script?
[01:29] <Baba_b00ie> mdg, yeah i know, it's wrong command. i wanted to say lshw -C video
[01:29] <delinquentme> im talking about w like git... i thought it was -f
[01:29] <delinquentme> IE
[01:29] <supernothing> or simple ccsm works too
[01:29] <delinquentme> git config --global core.editor gedit -f
[01:30] <Typos_King> delinquentme:    .... can't say, many keybindings use ctrl-w though :)
[01:30] <mdg> thanks Typos_King - that's awesome
[01:30] <dominicdinada> cesc: Compizconfig is buggy from my exp
[01:30] <delinquentme> heh
[01:30] <dominicdinada> cesc: very bugggy
[01:30] <spazdor> So I'm trying to chmod a device file in order to give raw access to it. specifically I want to let a non-root user run VirtualBox, using a .vmdk file that links to a real physical partition.
[01:30] <delinquentme> quality help
[01:30] <sebsebseb> vodl: How much RAM do you have?
[01:30] <supernothing> cesc: by default, the command to show all windows expo style is <super> w
 2gb ram
[01:31] <spazdor> The problem is, whenever I chmod the device file /dev/sda1, my changes are always reverted a few minutes later
[01:31] <sebsebseb> vodl: and you got a Windows CD yeah? which version?
[01:31] <spazdor> i assume this is some sort of anti-rootkit behaviour. can it be suppressed?
[01:31] <supernothing> delinquentme: i havent had any issues with it really, other than that it takes a bit to figure out what all the settings do
[01:31] <nonix4> How to diagnose ethernet which seems to be in receive-only state? eth0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> RX packets:56 TX packets:0
[01:31] <vodl> windows xp pro something
[01:31] <sebsebseb> spazdor: anti rootkit stuff probably not
[01:32] <sebsebseb> vodl: ok
[01:32] <sebsebseb> vodl: now if you set up a Windows virtual machine properly in Virtualbox, it will probably work quite well  for your two apps
 http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc322/Skeleton_Eel/forums_topics/free_vpn/vpn_connections.png
 that's the network manager i'm referring to
[01:32] <Typos_King> nonix4:   diagnose?    seems to me you already have a diagnosis :)
[01:32] <soadkombucha> Flash crashed when I was installing dependency packages
[01:33] <sebsebseb> !virtualbox | vodl
[01:33] <dominicdinada> sebsebseb: is that possible with only 1 gig of ram ? To run say dreamweaver/ulead  ? since this was my problem earlier. Darn blocked bits
[01:33] <spazdor> perhaps it's just a properdy of udev files? Is there any way to make permission/ownership changes in /dev/ persistent?
[01:33] <_ath> To those with ati driver experience, please have a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1518556
[01:33] <sebsebseb> vodl:  Both versiosn are free as in price,  open source version from repo lacks USB support,  other version from website/server has it, and you can set that up.
[01:33] <nonix4> Typos_King: as in further than that... it receives (w/ tcpdump) but never seems to send a single packet. Is that software or hardware issue?
[01:33] <cesc> thanks for all your replies.
[01:33] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: with 1GB RAM probably just about
[01:33] <Uboy> hey guys
[01:33] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: I mean without thinks being to slow
[01:34] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: and if its XP
[01:34] <sebsebseb> with 2GB RAM like what vodl has,  more likely to get better performance :)
[01:34] <krazykrivda> every time i attempt to mount a partiion hardrive i get it read only.. how can I mount a partition os I can move files to iit
[01:34] <dominicdinada> sebsebseb: Because MY question earlier today was why Wine is blocking all my apps from installing such as PHP Nusphere, Ulead etc...
[01:34] <soadkombucha> krazykrivda: What's the filesystem?
[01:34] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: without things being  really slow, above
 no go, it's vital to me that I run dreamweaver non-native for security reasons [ 50% the reason i moved to linux, the other 50 was constant re-installing of windoze]
[01:34] <krazykrivda> soadkombucha: /dev/sda7
[01:35] <dominicdinada> sebsebseb: this is a ummm free back to life laptop I just use for odds and ends
[01:35] <osmodivs>  me what does this means?
[01:35] <osmodivs> W: Error de GPG: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release Las firmas siguientes no se pudieron verificar porque su llave pública no está disponible: NO_PUBKEY 1780999033C3C104
[01:35] <sebsebseb> vodl: right, but 8.04 will run out of support end of April next year
[01:35] <sebsebseb> vodl: on the desktop
[01:35] <soadkombucha> krazykrivda: No partition type
[01:35] <osmodivs> Public key not found
[01:35] <krazykrivda> fat32 i believe
 what does that mean?
[01:35] <SlidingHorn> vodl: maybe I'm just ignorant on this, but what effect does that have on security?
[01:35] <wajimba> anyone know of a good, easy to install vnc server?
[01:35] <SlidingHorn> !eol | vodl
[01:35] <sebsebseb> vodl: End of Life no more security updates
[01:36] <sebsebseb> SlidingHorn: I was thinking about doing that
[01:36] <thune3> _ath: i don't have experience, but the logs seem to complain that the xorg.conf is wrong. did try using "/usr/bin/aticonfig --initial" (not sure syntax) to get a basic xorg.conf?
[01:36] <Typos_King> nonix4:  has to be software..... almost like a firewall rule or something....you can always use something like 'WireShark' to check the connection interface further -> http://www.qweas.com/downloads/network/other/scr-wireshark.png
[01:36] <sebsebseb> vodl: now if you knew what you were doing, you could actsaully maintain it quite well yourself, but  you still woudn't be able to get support from this channel anymore for 8.04
[01:36] <soadkombucha> krazykrivda: It should be readable
[01:36] <_ath> thune3: that is using aticonfig --initiak
[01:36] <_ath> *initial
[01:37] <krazykrivda> soadkombucha: i know that.. btu it is not.. what shoudl i do
 there's a new family of viruses that tap ftp clients on windows xp and leak passes and such
[01:37] <aretrfre34> how to broadcast connection like wifi router in ubuntu
[01:37] <dominicdinada> vodl: I only have had windoze go down on me once ever... I just dont get how people can allow any computer to become that over-run with viruses/trojans, faulty apps
[01:37] <sebsebseb> vodl: I think you meant to send that to SlidingHorn
[01:37] <sebsebseb> and yes there are many security issues when it comes to Windows
[01:37] <SlidingHorn> vodl: I think your last statement was for me -- oh, I see :)
[01:37] <soadkombucha> krazykrivda: Hold on
[01:38] <Uboy> I can't change my pass, I use grub in recovery mode and it didnt completed, then I use Live Ubuntu Disk and mk dir in /media/sda1 > mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1/ > chroot /media/sda1   > then use this command: passwd myusername   >  then insert the password two times  and then restart PC after see the Line: Password Updated Successfuly  ,  (login configured in auto without pass) when I try to type and run any command in terminal with sudo i have the last problem
[01:38] <soadkombucha> krazykrivda: try chmod +w /dev/sda7
[01:38] <soadkombucha> in terminal
 got bugged myself so decided to go the absolute safest way and install linux and run any ftps on linux
[01:38] <hiexpo> rem this is not windows
[01:38] <nonix4> Typos_King: well, the NO-CARRIER in "ip addr list" also suggests issues deeper than firewall... kinda weird that it can receive while having NO-CARRIER state though...
[01:38] <sebsebseb> vodl: really running a Windows install online is quite the security risk, but most users have no idea
[01:38] <Typos_King> dominicdinada:   pebkac, I've run win32 box just as well, in 14years or so, I may have gotten a whopping 5 or so malicious stuff,
still would really need that network manager
[01:39] <sebsebseb> vodl: ok i'll look at the screenshot hold on
[01:39] <Uboy> guys help me plz!
[01:39] <Uboy> :'(
[01:39] <soadkombucha> krazykrivda: Lemme know if that works
 for use with a vpn, setting it up manually is nightmare-ish [ for me at least]
[01:39] <vodl> uboy what's wrong?
[01:39] <krazykrivda> soadkombucha: chmod: changing permissions of `/media/FILES': Read-only file system
[01:39] <Uboy> vodl:  I can't change my pass, I use grub in recovery mode and it didnt completed, then I use Live Ubuntu Disk and mk dir in /media/sda1 > mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1/ > chroot /media/sda1   > then use this command: passwd myusername   >  then insert the password two times  and then restart PC after see the Line: Password Updated Successfuly  ,  (login configured in auto without pass) when I try to type and run any command in terminal with sudo i have the last 
[01:39] <dominicdinada> sebsebseb: every OS has their share of security problems. This is something that I hear from Mac users they cant get viruses etc. But that is very untrue, Windows has 90% of the worlds computers so it only makes sense to attack the easiest prey as linux and macs become even more common place you can be so will problems
[01:39] <hiexpo> Uboy,  if none answers your ? ask again in 15 or so
[01:41] <dominicdinada> Typos_King: I get malicious stuff from websites and other things alike I just notice the signs and take care of it right away. I mean you dont drive your car until the engine seizes with out servicing it :D
[01:41] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: there is always the market share excuse, and I never said that Linux distros are immune from malware
[01:41] <vodl> uboy: sorry, never had pass problems, best of luck :)
[01:41] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: they do happen to be immune from Windows malware though
[01:41] <dominicdinada> sebsebseb: Very true :D
[01:41] <sebsebseb> !virus
[01:41] <zenlunatic> everytime i peak in here its debate
[01:41] <SlidingHorn> dominicdinada, (if i'm not ignored anymore) I find the whole "market share based security" argument to be flawed.  I'm sure that it would be more targeted if it did have a larger share, however, there are features of most linux systems that are inherently more secure than a windows system (no auto admin, open source -- lots of eyes to find/fix holes, etc)
[01:41] <sebsebseb> vodl: you can install  uhmm
[01:41] <osmodivs> then, why is there an Antivirus in the Ubuntu repository?
[01:41] <sebsebseb> vodl: well thats part of Gnome
[01:42] <hiexpo> Uboy,  this is not A paid channel everyome just helps to help out others
[01:42] <soadkombucha> krazykrivda: Can you touch it?
[01:42] <krazykrivda> soadkombucha: so it still doesn't work
[01:42] <krazykrivda> soadkombucha: read only
[01:42] <soadkombucha> krazykrivda: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/28502-chmod-w-doesnt-work-vfat-partition.html
 should i look for it in synaptic?
[01:42] <sebsebseb> vodl: you could install a later version of Gnome yourself, and maybe just the network manager
[01:42] <dominicdinada> sebsebseb: but using a linux server for windows file sharing  will help windows viruses propagate :D
[01:42] <Uboy> hiexpo: are you have problem with me?
[01:42] <sebsebseb> vodl: also since your on 8.04,  you get the option of KDE 3 or KDE 4 from the repo
[01:42] <sebsebseb> vodl: both of which will have a similar program
[01:43] <sebsebseb> vodl: I mean you could try both KDE 3 and 4
[01:43] <frank82vt> why doesnt appear the distribution ubuntu 8.10  intrepid ibex as an option in  http://packages.ubuntu.com/ ?
[01:43] <sebsebseb> vodl: and as far as I know in those versions there is a similar program, but yeah thats a differnet look
[01:43] <ne7work> hello all
[01:43] <hiexpo> Uboy,  nope
[01:43] <ne7work> please someone tell me how to compile alsa on ubuntu 9.04?
[01:43] <sebsebseb> !8.10 | frank82vt
[01:44] <dominicdinada> SlidingHorn: Some time Ago on a number of security sites packetstorm, beehive, securityfocus alike were showing like 300 new malicious threats for windows while say macs had 20
[01:44] <resno> im looking to automate virtualbox virutal machine starting and stopping. should i write a cron using @restart?
 not a fashion critic anyway, so I'll try them out
[01:44] <sebsebseb> vodl: KDE 3 is rather nice
[01:44] <sebsebseb> vodl: nice and mature been around for years
[01:44] <ne7work> please someone tell me how to compile alsa on ubuntu 9.04?
[01:44] <sebsebseb> vodl: on the verge of deiing, well some people are still working on it
[01:44] <Uboy> hiexpo, this IRC channel is for Ubuntu and we all using that dist. it is usual to ask questiotion, so what for u say> (05:12:00 AM) hiexpo: Uboy,  this is not A paid channel everyome just helps to help out others
[01:44] <sebsebseb> vodl: not upstream KDE though, they are doing KDE 4
 do i need to install kde desktop or can I stick to gnome desktop and just run that manager?
[01:45] <frank82vt> well i just want search packagues only for intrepid in http://packages.ubuntu.com/ so that distribution doesnt appear as option. why?
[01:45] <sebsebseb> vodl: you can maybe just install that manager yourself some how,  or upgrade Gnome yourself to a later version which isn't really supported by Ubuntu
[01:45] <bp0> how long will it take for the new vlc to appear?
[01:45] <de_deb> I am trying to install ubuntu onto my external usb hdd from virtual box in xp
[01:45] <hiexpo> Uboy,  if i souned rude sorry
[01:46] <sebsebseb> vodl: or you could install KDE 3 and 4 and see if they got something like what you want,  I think they do
[01:46] <Uboy> hiexpo pleasure
[01:46] <de_deb> but I am having trouble making virtual box recognize my usb hdd as an hdd
[01:46] <sebsebseb> vodl: and then you just select the session and log in to the one you want from log in screen
[01:46] <sebsebseb> vodl: and one will be the default.
[01:47] <cesc> how to make ubuntu to shut down at a specific time?
[01:47] <sebsebseb> vodl: seems a bit silly in a way though, to install the whole of KDE 3 or 4 or both, just for a network manager
[01:47] <Uboy> vodl: it means i don't have any way to change my pass?
[01:47] <sebsebseb> !info ghutdown
[01:47] <sebsebseb> !info gshutdown
[01:47] <sebsebseb> cesc: there ^
[01:47] <cesc> thanks
[01:47] <frank82vt> well i just want search packagues only for intrepid in http://packages.ubuntu.com/ so that distribution doesnt appear as option. why?
[01:47] <sebsebseb> cesc: np
 alrighty I'll see what i have available here, many thanks:)
[01:48] <SlidingHorn> dominicdinada, btw, I'm sorry if I came across as rude earlier.  Just wanted to make sure you were pointed somewhere that would have more focused expertise to your issue :)  -- and I got a little defensive afterward
[01:48] <sebsebseb> vodl: and if you look around on uhmm
[01:48] <dominicdinada> cesc: sudo shutdown -h (min)
[01:48] <sebsebseb> vodl: sf.net freshmeat.net maybe there is some alternative one you can install,  in fact I guess even xubuntu has one
[01:48] <de_deb> plz anyone
[01:49] <kostkon> frank82vt, http://old.releases.ubuntu.com/
[01:49] <kostkon> !eol | frank82vt
[01:49] <IvanOoze|Opiates> How can I add my music to my ipod touch 2nd gen?
[01:49] <sebsebseb> vodl: again xubuntu/xfce is in the 8.04 repo
[01:49] <dominicdinada> SlidingHorn: Actually sebsebseb pointed out I could virtualbox windows and run my programs since wine seems to blockbit so many apps
[01:49] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: Depends on RAM, and  which programs, how well a vm works or does not work
[01:49] <IvanOoze|Opiates> How can I add my music to my ipod touch 2nd gen?
[01:49] <SlidingHorn> dominicdinada, sebsebseb good idea :)
[01:50] <aretrfre34> how do hookup laptop with table via wifi?
[01:50] <frank82vt> thanks kostkon and ubottu
[01:50] <soadkombucha> Okay I know why Amarok isn't working it's a Phonon error
[01:50] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: and to some extent other hardware, for example at the moment they tend to suck for Windows 3D gaming, but support is getting there slowly
[01:50] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: however for pretty much anything else, they will be fine
[01:50] <aretrfre34> sorry, how do I hookup laptop with tablet via wifi?
 I have something called "network-manager" installed in synaptic, how do I find out what's the console command to run it?
[01:50] <aretrfre34> laptop with table, funny :)
[01:51] <resno> im looking to automate virtualbox virutal machine starting and stopping. should i write a cron using @restart?
[01:51] <dominicdinada> sebsebseb: my purposes are just dreamweaver/Nusphere php,  ulead
[01:51] <sebsebseb> vodl: network-manager and open it from the terminal
[01:51] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: uhmm you don't need Wine for PHP
[01:51] <Agu10> hi
[01:51] <sebsebseb> !lamp | dominicdinada
[01:51] <dominicdinada> sebsebseb: no but the editors i use
 um...come again?
[01:51] <Agu10> how can I start some program in the second virtual desktop on startup?
[01:51] <sebsebseb> vodl: you can type in the name of a proccess/program/package in the terminal hit enter and open
[01:52] <krazykrivda> Any partition i mount in ubuntu is all of a sudden read only, both swap and vfat.. it was working with fstab, I have changed nothing and now it doesn't work
[01:52] <sebsebseb> cesc: ok you didn't need to pm that
[01:52] <Agu10> I need to run some app on a specific virtual desktop on startup
[01:52] <vodl> paul@paul:~$ network-manager
[01:52] <vodl> bash: network-manager: command not found
[01:52] <aretrfre34> dedicated: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1518570
[01:52] <sebsebseb> cesc: however yeah this is what you want
[01:52] <sebsebseb> cesc:  system > administration > terminal
[01:52] <dominicdinada> sebsebseb: I actually removed the LAMP package as for development purposes for me it is not practical to keep having to update the sites. So I switched to the Apachefriends for linux package
[01:52] <sebsebseb> cesc: then do this
doesn't seem to work
[01:52] <sebsebseb> cesc: sudo apt-get install gshutdown
[01:52] <k-rad> unbreakable
[01:53] <sebsebseb> !pm > cesc
[01:53] <dominicdinada> cesc: you can ALSO do "sudo shutdown -h (min)"
[01:53] <aretrfre34> ubottu: wifi
[01:53] <dominicdinada> cesc: sudo shutdown -h 10
[01:53] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: hes a noob
[01:53] <hiexpo> haha
[01:53] <cesc> thanks everybody for helping me.
[01:53] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: well thats what I was told
[01:54] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: anyway so if you want to explain what that does to them, sure go a head
[01:54] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada:  or maybe its enough to know that it shut down, and not what the command means
[01:54] <dominicdinada> cesc: just type ( shutdown from your terminal and it will tell you how to reboot or turn off or whatever )
[01:54] <dominicdinada> sebsebseb: heh
[01:55] <hiexpo> sebsebseb,  ok i am lost on reading up oops lol
[01:55] <sebsebseb> !pm > Uboy
[01:55] <sebsebseb> !ask | Uboy
 network-manager doesn't work in terminal, any ideas?
[01:56] <Uboy> sebsebseb here or private?
[01:56] <sebsebseb> Uboy:  here I guess
[01:56] <Uboy> ok
[01:56] <sebsebseb> Uboy: plus if you ask here and I don't know, someone else may know
[01:56] <omani> i have no beep in virtual terminals
[01:56] <omani> tty1-7 yes. but not in X
[01:57] <resno> omani: try modprobe pcspkr
[01:57] <omani> pcspkr module is loaded
[01:57] <dominicdinada> vodl: ummm is it typically a static wifi connection ? take the time to write you interfaces and wpa_supplicant files
[01:57] <Uboy> sebsebseb I can't change my pass, I use grub in recovery mode and it didnt completed, then I use Live Ubuntu Disk and mk dir in /media/sda1 > mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1/ > chroot /media/sda1   > then use this command: passwd myusername   >  then insert the password two times  and then restart PC after see the Line: Password Updated Successfuly  ,  (login configured in auto without pass) when I try to type and run any command in terminal with sudo i have the la
[01:57] <resno> omani: you need to enable them in settings/prefrences?
[01:57] <omani> when i start X i can hear it, but then, something happens and my beep is gone
[01:57] <omani> resno, where in lucid is the preference for that?
[01:57] <dominicdinada> vodl: Like always your home or work ?
[01:57] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok re setting a user account password is easy
[01:58] <sebsebseb> Uboy: get the recovery mode and the root shell in it
[01:58] <thune3> _ath: the only thing related i see is http://forums.opensuse.org/get-help-here/hardware/435380-ati-radeon-5670-fglrx-problem-opensuse-11-2-x64.html , where the problem ended up being a bios/on-board-graphics/pci-address issue. I might recommend commenting out the BusID line, and try to let fglrx try to find the device.
[01:58] <sebsebseb> Uboy: then do.  passwd your username
[01:58] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and put in the new password twice
[01:58] <dominicdinada> passwd Uboy googler googler
[01:58] <k-rad> anyone need help ?
[01:58] <omani> resno, where is that?
[01:59] <CrazyHyena> Hello, I am trying to compile a program using gcc-4.2 and g++-4.2. GCC/++-4.4 is currently linked to g++ and gcc. I use CC=gcc-4.2 and CPP=g++-4.2 as environment variables before using ./configure, but says that gcc-4.2 fails sanity check... if I link gcc and g++ to 4.2, then it works. why would it not work with a variable?
[01:59] <Uboy> sebsebseb: Yes I get the recovery mode with change the GRUB option but the grub doesnt enter in recovery uption to select the Root mode!
[01:59] <sebsebseb> Uboy: oh it won't boot up recovery mode?
[01:59] <Uboy> sebsebseb yes
[01:59] <Uboy> :'(
[01:59] <sebsebseb> vodl: try KDE or something,  I am not so sure what is the best way to help you
[01:59] <sebsebseb> vodl: or try to
http://www.ubuntugeek.com/wicd-wired-and-wireless-network-manager-for-ubuntu.html found the manager
[02:00] <resno> omani: try checking sound options
[02:00] <Sa[i]nT> What is the tool ubuntu uses to make a book usb?
[02:00] <sebsebseb> Uboy: Which version of Ubuntu?
[02:00] <omani> resno, i dont have any internal speaker / pc speaker option in lucid
[02:00] <sebsebseb> !usb | Sa[i]nT
[02:00] <Uboy> sebsebseb 10.04 LTS lucid
[02:00] <dominicdinada> vodl: that is not the default manager :D but it is a good one
[02:00] <sebsebseb> Sa[i]nT: Unetbottin
[02:01] <sebsebseb> Uboy: clean install or?
 after I added the repo I get this error: W: GPG error: http://apt.wicd.net hardy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY FEC820F4B8C0755A
[02:01] <cesc> which dictionary would you recommend me to allow me to select a word while surffing on the www and get the definition on a pop-up window or even the translation into another language? English is not my mother-language so sometimes I get words which I don't understand. That would be very handy for me.
[02:01] <Uboy> sebsebseb: what u meaning af clean install?
[02:01] <sebsebseb> Uboy: a new install of Ubuntu?
[02:02] <Uboy> sebsebse yes
[02:02] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok
[02:02] <vodl>  <dominicdinada> how do I add a key?
[02:02] <Uboy> sebsebseb and the Hard disk was row!
[02:02] <sebsebseb> Uboy: There is bound to be another way to fix this, but it would probably be easier to just clean install
[02:02] <sebsebseb> Uboy: row ?
[02:03] <Uboy> sebsebseb I mean that before i start install install I erase all of my hard and format that and creat all partition with installation of linux
[02:03] <sebsebseb> Uboy: right yeah
[02:03] <sebsebseb> Uboy: so not data on there that you want?
[02:03] <Lostwf> Hello
[02:03] <Uboy> no
[02:04] <Guest31698> hey everyone. :)  hope you are all doing well.... would someone possible be able to help me with a printer issue?
[02:04] <ne7work> please someone tell me how to compile alsa on ubuntu 9.04?
[02:04] <sebsebseb> Uboy: well then clean install I guess.  also a tip for operating system installs, make sure the CD is good,  so  when it comes to Linux distros make sure your ISO is good, check it
[02:04] <Uboy> sebsebseb no and I creat back up from package by APTonCD
[02:04] <sebsebseb> !md5sum
[02:04] <sebsebseb> !hashes
[02:05] <sebsebseb> ubottu: ok I haven't used APTonCD  before, or have I hrm
[02:05] <Uboy> yeah a Disk is DVD and bought from good shop center
[02:05] <sebsebseb> indeed you are just a bot, a female bot that isn't intelligent, that was meant to go to Uboy  silly messing up of auto complete
[02:05] <sebsebseb> !gender
[02:06] <Uboy> sebsebseb ok APTonCD just back up all package.
[02:06] <thune3> cesc: hyperwords is a firefox plugin that does something like what you describe
[02:06] <Uboy> sebsebseb ybottu is bot, it do'snt me!
[02:06] <sebsebseb> Uboy: Whats that?
[02:07] <cesc> thanks thune3 gonna check it
[02:07] <Lostwf> Can any one point me to where i can find the pool for maverick meerkat? I have tried archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu and I still need 214 files to complete my iso
[02:07] <ahmedkotb> i really need help
[02:07] <sebsebseb> !meverick | Lostwf
[02:07] <LJRuff> !ask | ahmedkotb
[02:07] <Uboy> I don't khow, but i know this bot is a program written fot IRC (automatic IRC Robat)
[02:07] <dominicdinada> vodl: I was afk But i dont use Wcid anymore i believe you go under properties
[02:07] <sebsebseb> !maverick | Lostwf
[02:07] <dominicdinada> !wcid
[02:08] <ahmedkotb> i have just deleted all my home partition by accident ....
[02:08] <dominicdinada> !wicd
[02:08] <ahmedkotb> :
[02:08] <ahmedkotb> :(
[02:08] <Uboy> sebsebseb I don't khow, but i know this bot is a program written fot IRC (automatic IRC Robat)
[02:08] <ahmedkotb> from the terminal
[02:08] <ahmedkotb> using the rm command with the -R flag
[02:08] <omani> where is the preference for internal speaker / pc speaker in lucid lynx
[02:08] <Uboy> sebsebseb so what can I do except Reinstalling Ubuntu?
[02:08] <Lostwf> !maverick
[02:09] <Lostwf> Thanks ubotto
[02:09] <LJRuff> ahmedkotb, How did you do that???
[02:09] <ahmedkotb> i was just deleting a single file
[02:10] <Uboy> Every Body Khows > ubotto is BOT
[02:10] <ahmedkotb> but i pressed enter before completting the path
[02:10] <Uboy> sebsebseb?
[02:10] <ahmedkotb> ~
[02:10] <Uboy> sebsebseb u gone?
[02:10] <ahmedkotb> without completing
[02:10] <ahmedkotb> so it deleted all the contents of home
[02:10] <sebsebseb> Uboy: nah still here
[02:10] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: ok why were you doing home stuff?
[02:10] <ahmedkotb> feeling really stupid to make such mistake :(
[02:10] <LJRuff> ahmedkotb, with recursive options?
[02:10] <LJRuff> = ?
[02:10] <ahmedkotb> i just wanted to delete a folder
[02:11] <wise_crypt> ahmedkotb: sudo mkdir /home/yourusername/
[02:11] <sebsebseb> wise_crypt: stop
[02:11] <ahmedkotb> how can i restore the files ?
[02:11] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: right yeah
[02:11] <sinnedam> hey guys..my firefox browser seems laggy..like video wise when scrolling for instance..is this normal for Ubuntu?
[02:11] <sebsebseb> wise_crypt: lets not get his hard disk over written and such
[02:11] <LJRuff> wise_crypt, that won't restore the lost files...
[02:11] <Uboy> sebsebseb ok
[02:11] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: ok if the partition is really gone
[02:12] <ahmedkotb> the partition is there
[02:12] <wise_crypt> LJRuff: but he won't reinstall ubuntu ?
[02:12] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: you can probably restore most or all of the data using test disk
[02:12] <Uboy> sebsebseb so what can i do except Reinstalling Ubuntu?
[02:12] <ahmedkotb> and the home folder is there
[02:12] <ahmedkotb> but all the configuration files where lost
[02:12] <ahmedkotb> and ofcourse my files
[02:12] <LJRuff> wise_crypt, reinstalling is just as bad. He needs to restore the files if he can. There's some packages that do that.
[02:12] <ahmedkotb> i have tried scalple
[02:12] <ahmedkotb> scalpel
[02:12] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: hrm I think test disk only works on partitions that have actsauly been deleted
[02:13] <sebsebseb> !testdisk
[02:13] <ahmedkotb> but it restores certain files only
[02:13] <sebsebseb> !info testdisk
[02:13] <Uboy> sebsebseb
[02:13] <Uboy> answer!
[02:13] <omani> !info pc speaker
[02:13] <Uboy> plz
[02:13] <wise_crypt> LJRuff: then testdisk
[02:13] <sebsebseb> Uboy: you can mess around with Grub 2
[02:13] <sebsebseb> Uboy: which won't be fun at all
[02:14] <sebsebseb> Uboy: well the old version wasn't as bad to mess around with
[02:14] <ahmedkotb> should i try test desk ?
[02:14] <Uboy> sebsebseb how?
[02:14] <thune3> sinnedam: with compiz enabled, i had to turn off smoothscroll in ubuntu because it looked terrible. i don't have great hardware.
[02:14] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and you can change the boot menu, and then maybe the recovery mode will load up
[02:14] <thune3> sinnedam: smoothscroll in firefox, that is
[02:14] <wise_crypt> !info testdisk | ahmedkotb
[02:14] <sebsebseb> Uboy: easier to re install, than mess around with Grub 2 really
[02:14] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | Uboy
[02:14] <sinnedam> ill check those settings thanks guys
[02:15] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: got another computer?
[02:15] <ahmedkotb> yes
[02:15] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: and you got Ubuntu Live CD yeah?
[02:15] <sinnedam> well crap where are the smooth scroll settings at?
[02:15] <ahmedkotb> actually no :(
[02:15] <bruenig> grub is not that hard, just follow instructions like anything else
[02:16] <sebsebseb> bruenig: well it is for Ubuntu newbies and such
[02:16] <cellofellow> grub2 makes more sense than grub1 ever did.
[02:16] <sebsebseb> cellofellow: Grub Legacy  was really easy to configure for basic stuff
[02:17] <LJRuff> sebsebseb, When you've been in the Unix-like family for so long you forget. "zomg! You can't hardcode and compile a kernel by hand?" =P
[02:17] <thune3> sinnedam: Firefox Edit>Prefs>Advanced
[02:17] <cellofellow> In grub1, /boot/grub/menu.lst was actually two files, one of which configured the other one.
[02:17] <Uboy> sebsebseb Installing and using of GRUB 2 needs root password and my pass doesn't work!
[02:17] <cellofellow> well, not really two files, but it behaved that way.
[02:17] <sebsebseb> Uboy: no
[02:17] <sebsebseb> Uboy: you already have Grub 2
[02:17] <sebsebseb> Uboy: its the program that boots up Ubuntu
[02:17] <Uboy> sebsebseb i know , so....?
[02:17] <juggalo483> how do i install java
[02:17] <Uboy> sebsebseb the last way?
[02:17] <sinnedam> ok smooth scroll is turned off...so are you saying i need to turn it on?
[02:17] <sebsebseb> bruenig: if you want to  try and help Uboy feel free
[02:18] <sebsebseb> Uboy: tell people your issue, others may be able to help
[02:18] <wise_crypt> !java | juggalo483
[02:18] <Uboy> ok.
[02:18] <Uboy> sebsebseb tnx
[02:18] <Uboy> juggalo483 which version?
[02:18] <LJRuff> Uboy, please explain your issue in as much detail as possible so we can all appraise it and provide any help.
[02:18] <sebsebseb> Uboy: if it had been the old Grub,  I would have been able to help you more right now
[02:19] <juggalo483> uboy: newest
[02:19] <sebsebseb> juggalo483: uhmm?
[02:19] <smuggles> how do i install a kernel module?
[02:19] <smuggles> i need modprobe
[02:19] <smuggles> i mean tun
[02:19] <thune3> sinnedam: no. you can leave it off. up scroll and downscroll are still "juddery" for me, still
[02:19] <wise_crypt> smuggles: i use kernelcheck to do that
[02:19] <Uboy> sebsebseb i explain every think i see
[02:19] <mdg> In Lucid, what kind of video cards work/work the best?
[02:19] <soadkombucha> So I just wrote a script that assumes the realtek audio drivers are extracted and that the package folder is in ~/ I'm hoping it works...
[02:19] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: ok back to you
[02:19] <wise_crypt> smuggles: http://kcheck.sourceforge.net/
[02:20] <ahmedkotb> no problem
[02:20] <ahmedkotb> welcome back
[02:20] <Uboy> sebsebseb ask me i answer
[02:20] <queso> In Rhythmbox, how do I turn off the new song growl notification that fades in/out at the upper right of the screen?
[02:20] <soadkombucha> Can anyone check a script for me to make sure that it would work if I uploaded the code to pastebin?
[02:20] <sebsebseb> Uboy: no tell the other people in this channel, what your trying to do
[02:20] <sebsebseb> Uboy: since they missed it when you told me
[02:20] <ahmedkotb> sebsebseb,  it is totally my mistake i know that
[02:20] <Agu10> how can I install alltray on ubuntu 10.04 ?
[02:21] <Agu10> it's not in the sources :S
[02:21] <ahmedkotb> sebsebseb, and the bigger mistake is that i didnt do backups :(
[02:21] <devian> Hello
[02:21] <LJRuff> !hi | devian
[02:21] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: ok not a big deal
[02:21] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: data is still there, untill the hard disk overwrites it
[02:21] <ahmedkotb> i know that
[02:21] <LJRuff> queso, I know it's in the preferences under rhythmbox.
[02:21] <wajimba> how do I set up a VNC server?
[02:21] <LJRuff> !rhythmbox | queso
[02:21] <ahmedkotb> but how can i extract it
[02:21] <LJRuff> Oops... that's not it
[02:21] <sebsebseb> !vnc > wajimba
[02:21] <wise_crypt> ahmedkotb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[02:22] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: you can download the test disk Live CD
[02:22] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: or  Ubuntu Live CD install test disk on it and use it from that
[02:22] <Uboy> sebsebseb all of people here and in forum and... can't help me! if this is linux, so we must not reinstall it and this is exactly diffrence between both
[02:22] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: and it should get hold of all/most of your data, however it seems the partiton has to actsaully been deleted first from the partition table, before that worsk
[02:22] <mdg> Anyone know what an "init" error of 4 is?
[02:22] <soadkombucha> Who was asking about alltray?
[02:22] <devian> Thks but i am also new at this
[02:22] <soadkombucha> Agu10: http://ftp.debian.org/pool/main/a/alltray/
[02:22] <soadkombucha> Agu10: Download the .deb file for your system
[02:22] <queso> LJRuff: oh, it was in the plugins area.
[02:22] <sebsebseb> Uboy: how new are you to Ubuntu?
[02:23] <Uboy> sebsebseb between linux and windows
[02:23] <LJRuff> Uboy, please explain your issue in as much detail as possible so we can all help you
[02:23] <jsec> Hi all. Battery life indicator on my laptop has been reading 0% even after a full charge for about a month now. Anybody know what may cause this? Searching the forums doesn't really yield any results.
[02:23] <sebsebseb> LJRuff: he can't log in to his account
[02:23] <wajimba> sebsebseb: thx!
[02:23] <ahmedkotb> does test disk restore all the files
[02:23] <sebsebseb> wajimba: np
[02:23] <ahmedkotb> or it just searches for a known header format ?
[02:23] <soadkombucha> Would anyone be willing to check a script for me to make sure it's formatted properly?
[02:23] <LJRuff> sebsebseb, Thanks.
[02:23] <sebsebseb> LJRuff: he can't get into the recovery mode
[02:23] <mdg> Anyone know what an "init" error of 4 is?
[02:23] <sebsebseb> LJRuff: he seems to have tried the chmod or whatever on the Live CD as well without luck
[02:23] <Uboy> LJRuff I was enter in linux last week, today I'm triying to configure and install fingerprint sensor
[02:24] <LJRuff> jsec, does the laptop work if you unplug it?
[02:24] <sebsebseb> Uboy: uh
[02:24] <sebsebseb> Uboy: you told me you can't get into your account
[02:24] <LJRuff> sebsebseb, Uboy hmmm... did you ask in #grub?
[02:24] <Uboy> LJRuff & sebsebseb no
[02:24] <soadkombucha> Tootoot222: Could you possibly check a script for me so I know it'll work when I run it?
[02:24] <cellofellow> not really
[02:24] <cellofellow> oops
[02:24] <jesuska> Hi everyone. Looking for some help with Empathy
[02:24] <mbrigdan> Can anyone help me out? I recently re-jaibroke my ipod, so ssh was complaining about a wrong key. I removed the offending line from my known_hosts file, but nautilus still refuses to mount it, saying "Host key verification failed"
[02:24] <sebsebseb> Uboy: trust me if you only started with this last week
[02:24] <jsec> LJRuff, yes. I keep tabs on about how long I've had it unplugged, it's just really annoying when I lose track and it randomly dies on me.
[02:24] <ahmedkotb> sebsebseb, thanks for the help
[02:24] <sebsebseb> Uboy: you won't want  to be messing around with Grub 2 already
[02:25] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: what kind of script?
[02:25] <ahmedkotb> sebsebseb, i will see what i can do
[02:25] <ahmedkotb> thanks 4 all of you
[02:25] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: ok good luck :)
[02:25] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: A shell script that auto configures makes and installs the 4 realtek hi def audio drivers
[02:25] <ahmedkotb> the most important lesson is : BACKUP
[02:25] <ahmedkotb> BACKUP BACUP
[02:25] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: http://pastebin.ca/1890149
[02:25] <LJRuff> jsec, hmmm... what are you using?
[02:25] <jesuska> Hi everyone. Looking for some help with Empathy
[02:25] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: I don't THINK anything is wrong with it
[02:25] <soadkombucha> I used .. to cd back to the parent folder
[02:26] <jsec> LJRuff, MacBook running lucid
[02:26] <LJRuff> I've never heard of this issue with a macbook and as I've never used one... = /
[02:26] <ubutom> !ask > jesuska
[02:26] <ZykoticK9> mbrigdan, you might want to try moving known_hosts to a new file and retrying (just to test)
[02:26] <sebsebseb> Uboy: yes it can be good to mess around  / experiment a bit to try and learn something
[02:27] <queso> LJRuff: actually, no, I still can't get it to turn off those notifications.
[02:27] <jsec> LJRuff, haha understood. I've seen problems on the forum with a pretty wide range of laptops affected. It seems like it might be an ACPI issue, but I don't know where to get started.
[02:27] <mbrigdan> ZykoticK9, ok, trying that now
[02:27] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: Anything look wrong with it? Just let me know.
[02:27] <sebsebseb> Uboy: however I have used Desktop Linux since 2004, and no Ubuntu was not my first distro :)   and even now,  I will clean install if something happens,  and I know that, there isn't much point trying to fix in some way
[02:28] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: you already have alsa lib on you machine why compiling another ?
[02:28] <queso> LJRuff: I tried Edit, Plugins, Status Icon, Configure, Notifications, Never Shown, and it still shows them.
[02:28] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: My audio drivers were messed up they were playing static
[02:28] <LJRuff> queso, try asking in #gnome or #rhythmbox?
[02:28] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: So I figured I'd do a clean compile and install
[02:28] <jesuska> my empathy doesnt seem to work anymore.. it just stalls when validating new chat account parameters... i cant connect to any account anymore. any idea ?
[02:28] <queso> LJRuff: okay, will do. thank you.
[02:28] <wise_crypt> !info libasound2 | soadkombucha
[02:28] <LJRuff> queso, sorry i couldn't help more. = /
[02:28] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and even  experienced users quite a lot of us, will avoide messing around with programs that we don't like, for example  Grub2, or  Xorg for the graphics
[02:28] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: I'm having audio issues. Let me try a reboot...
[02:28] <LJRuff> jsec, Nor do I. I've never worked under Ubuntu's hood much. After I got a feel for linux I kind of moved off...
[02:29] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: After my file copy operation finishes
[02:29] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: ok
[02:29] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: But does anything minus that look wrong with the script?
[02:29] <soadkombucha> the alsa-lib is easy to edit out
[02:29] <sebsebseb> LJRuff: yeah most of us don't really need to do anything as such with under the hood
[02:29] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: no
[02:30] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: Alright. Just wanted to make sure. I'd read up on making bash scripts, and I thought I had it right, but seeing as today was the first time I've ever actually implemented the knowledge of writing them I checked. Thank you.
[02:30] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: np
[02:30] <LJRuff> sebsebseb, That's why I moved away from Ubnutu. It's basically already perfect on the user's end - if you want to play around with a tuner car then you need to move onto Debian's Sid or Slackware or Gentoo or something. =P I still use and love Ubuntu tho...
[02:30] <soadkombucha> What about Linux Mint?
[02:30] <Uboy> LJRuff & sebsebseb after I'm triyng to apply this changes > http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage > my problem appears > my password doesn't work for authentificate command in sudo, instal package from software source and..... but log in page doesn't want me a password becouse I think i changed the setting to log in after problem occure, so I'm triying to change password bu GRUB and go to root shell, but GRUB doesn't complete that the option
[02:31] <sebsebseb> LJRuff: Mandriva for me since November on here, but thats also a noobs distro,  in fact more user friendly than Ubuntu really
[02:31] <mbrigdan> ZykoticK9, did that, the old copied contents back in, and now it works. Thank you!
[02:31] <sebsebseb> LJRuff: other computer is still Ubuntu
[02:31] <ZykoticK9> mbrigdan, glad you got it working :)
[02:31] <soadkombucha> sebsebseb: you really like Debian distros? Isn't RPM a tad more stable?
[02:31] <wise_crypt> sebsebseb: !poll
[02:31] <LJRuff> sebsebseb, never used it - but we're moving off-topic. I have dual boots. Playign with gentoo and ubuntu
[02:32] <soadkombucha> LJRuff: If you want something to mess around with why don't you try out ArchLinux? It's pacman based, not Deb or RPM
[02:32] <sebsebseb> wise_crypt: having a nice graphical control centre for setting up the system,  makes it more user friendly, anyway off topic
[02:32] <Uboy> sebsebseb > Explain > after I'm triyng to apply this changes > http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage > my problem appears > my password doesn't work for authentificate command in sudo, instal package from software source and..... but log in page doesn't want me a password becouse I think i changed the setting to log in after problem occure, so I'm triying to change password bu GRUB and go to root shell, but GRUB doesn't complete that the opt
[02:32] <LJRuff> soadkombucha, It's on my list to try after I master Gentoo
[02:33] <sebsebseb> soadkombucha: DEB, RPM,  apt-get yum, whatever, I don't care, as long as the apps I use will work :)
[02:33] <juggalo483> still cant get java installed any ideas
[02:33] <LJRuff> brb all
[02:33] <jesuska> anybody here can help me ?
[02:33] <jesuska> my empathy doesnt seem to work anymore.. it just stalls when validating new chat account parameters... i cant connect to any account anymore. any idea ?
[02:33] <Uboy> sebsebseb > Explain > after I'm triyng to apply this changes > http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage > my problem appears > my password doesn't work for authentificate command in sudo, instal package from software source and..... but log in page doesn't want me a password becouse I think i changed the setting to log in after problem occure, so I'm triying to change password bu GRUB and go to root shell, but GRUB doesn't complete that the opt
[02:33] <wise_crypt> if you guys wana mess around use slackware they are plenty to mess with
[02:33] <ZykoticK9> !repeat > Uboy
[02:33] <sebsebseb> Uboy: don't repeate stuff so quickly
[02:34] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: There's always Arch
[02:34] <Uboy> ok sorry
[02:34] <Uboy> so pleas read it
[02:34] <sebsebseb> Uboy: sometimes we are doing something else,  or we end up in off toipc chat :D,  or were helping someone else in here as well,  patience :)
[02:34] <juggalo483> uboy: any ideas on java
[02:34] <Uboy> ok i know
[02:34] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: or ubuntu in minimal install ;p
[02:35] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: Haha
[02:35] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and we are volunters, we don't get paid to help out in here,  so yeah patience
[02:35] <ZykoticK9> juggalo483, "apt-cache policy sun-java6-plugin" does it show as installed?
[02:35] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: I think I'm going to continue coming to this room. Despite being a relatively new regular linux user, I'm getting a decent chunk of knowledge from here, plus am finding that I actually CAN help people
[02:35] <juggalo483> zykotick9: sorry new to the OS where would i see that
[02:36] <ZykoticK9> juggalo483, run everything inside the "s in a terminal
[02:36] <Uboy> sebsebseb all of this mean's I'm so tired and 13 Hours working front Laptop to solve 1 problem! :d
[02:36] <juggalo483> ok
[02:36] <wajimba> sebsebseb: got vnc working- now how do I change my screen resolution to 1440x875?
[02:36] <sebsebseb> wajimba: uhmm well  I know that the computer your connecting to, that that is the one where the resolution should probably be changed really
[02:37] <wajimba> yeah
[02:37] <wajimba> so, is it an xorg.conf thing?
[02:37] <sebsebseb> wajimba: so yeah on that computer get it changed
[02:37] <sebsebseb> wajimba: no I don't think it has anything to do with xorg
[02:37] <sebsebseb> wajimba: how big or small the connection is on your screen
[02:38] <sebsebseb> wajimba: the desktop
[02:38] <wajimba> well, my only problem is that 1440x875 is not a standard resolution, so I can't just pick it on the VNC server computer
[02:38] <sebsebseb> Uboy: right I just gone on your link
[02:39] <Uboy> ok tnx dude
[02:39] <wajimba> the connection is LAN -- 100 Mbps
[02:39] <sebsebseb> Uboy: pm only with proper reason :)
[02:39] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and so far you haven't been pming me like that at all
[02:39] <juggalo483> Zykotick9: unable to find package
[02:39] <ZykoticK9> wajimba, that limitation would be in your VNC client (not really surprising actually)
[02:39] <sebsebseb> Uboy: basically pm is good for stuff that shoudn't go in the channel, for example off topic chat
[02:39] <ZykoticK9> juggalo483, are you on 10.04?  if you you need to enable the Partner repository.
[02:40] <sebsebseb> !pm | Uboy
[02:40] <ZykoticK9> juggalo483, my note in blue at the top http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/java
[02:40] <wajimba> ZykoticK9: huh? I'm just using the built-in remote desktop on ubuntu. To my knowledge the vnc clientside will adjust the window according to the resolution set on the server side
[02:41] <sebsebseb> Uboy: you asked in pm if my name is always sebsebseb when I am in here, most of the time it has been
[02:41] <NetScr1be> x-chat can't survive power standby?
[02:41] <NetScr1be> Ubuntu upgrade weirdness
[02:41] <sebsebseb> Uboy: also it is a good idea to not target a particular person when wanting support and asking a question, instead ask the whole channel :)
[02:41] <Uboy> sebsebseb are u play with me?
[02:41] <ZykoticK9> wajimba, vnc client must be the resolution cause though
[02:41] <flypiper> soadkombucha, are you still here??
[02:41] <juggalo483> father-inlaw said nstall openjdk java runtime
[02:41] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Yes
[02:41] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and now hold on so I can read the link you gave :)
[02:41] <soadkombucha> flypiper: What's going on?
[02:41] <wajimba> ZykoticK9: the cause?
[02:42] <Uboy> what link?
[02:42] <NetScr1be> It's in the installing software phase preparing to configure HAL and is hung ....
[02:42] <flypiper> soadkombucha, the ipw3945 modules aren' in non-free
[02:42] <NetScr1be> ... mouse won't move and Caps Lock is blinking
[02:42] <ZykoticK9> wajimba, why would you want to run a remove connection that that high a resolution anyway?  isn't that slow?
[02:42] <sebsebseb> Uboy: the one you gave out in here three times
[02:42] <ZykoticK9> wajimba, s/remove/remote
[02:42] <ylmfos> 你们都是哪里人
[02:42] <Uboy> sebsebseb http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage
[02:43] <sebsebseb> Uboy: yes that one
[02:43] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Hrm. Did you try compiling them from source?
[02:43] <Uboy> sebsebseb http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-ubuntu-password-easily-from-the-live-cd/
[02:43] <sebsebseb> Uboy: by the way I am not a girl
[02:43] <bazhang> ylmfos, english here
[02:43] <NetScr1be> I wwas not a girl one
[02:43] <soadkombucha> flypiper: http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/#downloads
[02:43] <Uboy> sebsebseb any way I love U!
[02:44] <wise_crypt> eh
[02:44] <flypiper> soadkombucha, ok.. thanks
[02:44] <bazhang> ylmfos, #ubuntu-cn for chinese
[02:44] <sebsebseb> Uboy: is your computer a system76 ?
[02:44] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Not a problem.
[02:44] <bruenig> ipw3945 is way out of date
[02:44] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Do you know how to compile from source?
[02:44] <Uboy> sebsebseb Waht?!!!11
[02:44] <soadkombucha> bruenig: It's the card he has though
[02:44] <bruenig> iwl drivers are the up-to-date supporter drivers
[02:44] <bruenig> iwl3945
[02:44] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok on the top of
[02:44] <flypiper> soadkombucha, yea.. but this is a new install so I will have to install all the build tools
[02:44] <bruenig> ipw was deprecated by iwl
[02:44] <wajimba> ZykoticK9: that's a good point. That's the size of the client screen I want to view it on minus the window bar height
[02:44] <Uboy> sebsebseb 2 minutes can u go in IM/
[02:45] <Uboy> ?
[02:45] <bruenig> http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/?p=iwlwifi&n=downloads
[02:45] <maco> Uboy: isnt this something you can call system76 about? they provide support when you buy their hardware, i thought
[02:45] <bruenig> you are looking for this, not the ipw3945 driver
[02:45] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Try the iwl drivers
[02:45] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Search for them, if they're not there build from them: http://intellinuxwireless.org/?n=Downloads
[02:45] <ylmfos> Where are you from?
[02:45] <bazhang> !ot | ylmfos
[02:45] <sebsebseb> Uboy: uhmm
[02:45] <maco> Uboy: for reference,  they have ##system76 on here and they have their own subforum on http://ubuntuforums.org if you want help direct from system76 folks
[02:45] <flypiper> soadkombucha, that is what is installed from default.. and they are really slow... it won't load a web page at all
[02:45] <sebsebseb> ubottu: point 4 on the page you gave
[02:45] <Uboy> sebsebseb what's your meaning of system 76?
[02:45] <bazhang> ylmfos, this is NOT the chat channel
[02:45] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Ahh.
[02:46] <bruenig> I find it hard to believe that iwl is not included by default in ubuntu or alternative that there is not a package for it
[02:46] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Then try the ipw drivers if you want.
[02:46] <derp> Is there a way to take VMware and make it the GUI for ubuntu?
[02:46] <Uboy> sebsebseb no my system not 76!
[02:46] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Did you try the wireless backports module?
[02:46] <sebsebseb> Uboy: have you even read all of this page?  http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage
[02:46] <wireshark> could anyone check  to synaptic if has already instaled the sun-java6-bin and sun-java6-jre???
[02:46] <flypiper> soadkombucha, Im trying to get them.. but they seem to have vanished
[02:46] <sebsebseb> http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage
[02:46] <ZykoticK9> wajimba, isn't resolution all determined by your VNC client setup? - i don't use remote GUI stuff
[02:46] <sebsebseb> Uboy: look at number 4
[02:46] <Uboy> sebsebseb yes
[02:46] <soadkombucha> flypiper: hold on
[02:46] <sebsebseb> Uboy: also the introduction mentions system 76
[02:46] <maco> Uboy: why are you using system76-hardware-specific drivers if you dont have a system76 machine? have you checked that its the exact same hardware?
[02:46] <Guest87049> Just saying this again due to the nick change: Is there a way to take VMware and make it the GUI for ubuntu?
[02:46] <sebsebseb> Uboy: number 4 is your problem?
[02:46] <flypiper> soadkombucha, where would I find those?
[02:47] <CrazyHyena> will ubuntu's future versions continue to try to be lightweight, as in using the same amount of RAM in the next versions?
[02:47] <sebsebseb> maco: :)  bingo I was getting to that,  that he is probably doing the wrong thing
[02:47] <wajimba> ZykoticK9: my client, realvnc, grabs the resolution of the screen that it's looking at
[02:47] <bruenig> ipw isn't even maintained anymore, I doubt seriously that it will even compile and work properly in the latest kernels
[02:47] <NetScr1be> Guest87049, say more about that but maqybe differently
[02:47] <bruenig> it stopped being maintained at least a year ago
[02:47] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Try compat-wireless? http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/stable/
[02:47] <wireshark> could anyone check  to synaptic if has already instaled the sun-java6-bin and sun-java6-jre???
[02:47] <Guest87049> k
[02:47] <maco> bruenig: 2 or 3 more like
[02:47] <Uboy> sebsebseb dude my fingerprint is another problem! I can't install and use it
[02:48] <soadkombucha> bruenig: You think compat-wireless might work?
[02:48] <wise_crypt> derp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server it has a web interface
[02:48] <flypiper> soadkombucha, Ok.. gimme a few
[02:48] <Uboy> sebsebseb my fingerprint sensor in windows named UPEK
[02:48] <Guest87049> Well what I am wanting to do is take the functions of VMware and literally just make the different OS onto the same desktop as the default OS
[02:48] <soadkombucha> Guest87049: There's software that does that hold on
[02:48] <maco> Uboy: but UPEK is a brand....
[02:48] <maco> Uboy: you need to check whether its the exact same model
[02:48] <ylmfos>  What does it chat the function is?
[02:48] <maco> ylmfos: what?
[02:49] <bazhang> ylmfos, Ubuntu support only
[02:49] <soadkombucha> Guest87049: There's QEmu and there's another one
[02:49] <Uboy> maco is there any way to found the exact model?
[02:49] <bazhang> ylmfos, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:49] <CrazyHyena> virtualbox
[02:49] <ZykoticK9> wajimba, when you connect in realvnc see the "connection options" and the scale option appears to modify resolution somehow.  Good luck man.
[02:49] <soadkombucha> CrazyHyena: No
[02:49] <Guest87049> I am not wanting to do virtual box or VMware or any of that
[02:49] <cellofellow> FLV is a container format that can use the Sorenson 3 codec (ffmpeg calls it flv, it's a subset of H.232) or On2 VP6 or H.264.
[02:49] <soadkombucha> CrazyHyena: Guest87049  wants to run the kernels cocurrently
[02:49] <CrazyHyena> oh
[02:49] <ylmf-han> how can i update a software? i have download the .desktop file
[02:49] <cellofellow> oops, wrong chanel
[02:49] <Guest87049> I want the OS to be a universal operating system
[02:49] <soadkombucha> Guest87049: CoLinux or QEmu
[02:50] <Guest87049> thank you
[02:50] <bazhang> ylmf-han, downloaded from where
[02:50] <cellofellow> irssi split screens are a little confusing
[02:50] <Uboy> maco i think u'r bot1
[02:50] <sebsebseb> Uboy: make sure your installing for your computer, otherwise yes problems
[02:50] <maco> Uboy: run "lsusb" to get the vendor & model id numbers
[02:50] <soadkombucha> Guest87049: Not a problem. CoLinux might need to be run from windows though..
[02:50] <maco> Uboy: and no, i'm not a bot
[02:50] <wireshark> could anyone check  to synaptic if has already installed the sun-java6-bin and sun-java6-jre???
[02:50] <Guest87049> Does colinux allow mac, windows, and ubuntu
[02:50] <Uboy> maco sorry,
[02:51] <CrazyHyena> is there a way to convert USB into a normal COM serial port?
[02:51] <bazhang> wireshark, enable the partner repo to get
[02:51] <soadkombucha> Guest87049: I don't know. There's also KVM
[02:51] <bazhang> !partner | wireshark
[02:51] <sebsebseb> Guest87049: no colinux is uhmm
[02:51] <Guest87049> These are all just virtualhost correct?
[02:51] <Uboy> smaco lsusb show me only a UPEK in line 1
[02:51] <sebsebseb> Guest87049: a bit like Wine, but for Windows and for Linux apps
[02:51] <ZykoticK9> wireshark, could you rephrase?  what would you like?
[02:51] <soadkombucha> But KVM is virtual machines
[02:51] <soadkombucha> Guest87049: CoLinux is the only one I know that allows a kernel to be run cocurrently
[02:51] <wireshark> ZykoticK9:  only to check if you already installed them
[02:51] <Guest87049> ah
[02:52] <edbian> soadkombucha, coLinux is really cool
[02:52] <ZykoticK9> wireshark, i have them jre installed
[02:52] <Uboy> maco us 008 Device 002: ID 147e:1000 Upek
[02:52] <wireshark> could you check ZykoticK9?
[02:52] <Uboy> Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[02:52] <Uboy> Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[02:52] <Uboy> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[02:52] <Uboy> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[02:52] <Uboy> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[02:52] <FloodBot2> Uboy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:52] <Uboy> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[02:52] <Uboy> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0c45:63e0 Microdia Sonix Integrated Webcam
[02:52] <flypiper> soadkombucha, I will have to build that also.. let me try the ipw3945 first
[02:52] <cntrational> Uboy: what
[02:52] <soadkombucha> Guest87049: But colinux is linux in windows
[02:52] <ylmfos>  Where do I want to know you from
[02:52] <sebsebseb> Uboy: did you set a root password?
[02:52] <Guest87049> So how do I get an Operating system to just kinda be like a 3rd party hosting to allow mac, windows, and linux functions/programs to be run on one desktop?
[02:52] <cntrational> Uboy: use pastebin
[02:52] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Alright.
[02:52] <soadkombucha> Guest87049: Well through windows you can use colinux to run a linux kernel I don't know if you can emulate mac
[02:52] <bazhang> ylmfos, please chat elsewhere
[02:53] <ZykoticK9> wireshark, jre version 6.20dlj-1ubuntu3
[02:53] <Uboy> sebsebseb I'm not what is Root!
[02:53] <wireshark> ZykoticK9:  is already installed uh?
[02:53] <soadkombucha> flypiper: If I'm not here when you get back, I'm doing a system reboot
[02:53] <Uboy> sebsebseb the only account created is one and during in install
[02:53] <ZykoticK9> wireshark, what do you mean?  not be default!
[02:53] <maco> CrazyHyena: http://delicious.com/macoafi
[02:53] <flypiper> soadkombucha, Thanks a million for your help.. U ROCK
[02:54] <Pirate_Hunter> Guest87049, just install a vm of your choice i.e. virtualbox/vmware and load your chosen os
[02:54] <soadkombucha> flypiper: It's not a problem. It's just a matter of looking for the drivers.
[02:54] <Uboy> cntrrational : waht is pastebin?
[02:54] <maco> !pastebin | cntrational
[02:54] <maco> erk
[02:54] <maco> cntrational: sorry
[02:54] <maco> !pastebin | uboy
[02:54] <cntrational> >.>
[02:54] <FloodBot2> maco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:54] <sebsebseb> Anyone want to take over helping Uboy  or well trying to like I was doing?  I want to go away from the computer
[02:54] <cntrational> i was thinking whether ubottu had description pastebin
[02:54] <cntrational> *description for pastebin
[02:54] <juggalo483> Zykotick9: keeps sitting at starting applet
[02:55] <soadkombucha> I use pastebin.ca
[02:55] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, what is wrong with his system
[02:55] <soadkombucha> He forgot his password
[02:55] <soadkombucha> And is trying to reset it
[02:55] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: not sure exactly, he can't  go into recovery mode
[02:55] <soadkombucha> And as far as I can recall the passwd utility wasn't working either
[02:55] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: he can't get his Ubuntu password re set, and it seems he has been trying to install some odd driver, that wasn't for his hardware
[02:55] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage
[02:55] <sebsebseb> http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage
[02:55] <bruenig> use a live cd and chroot to reset your password
[02:56] <sebsebseb> bruenig: it seems he has tried that, and that won't even work
[02:56] <Agu10> is there a program to start other windows in a specific virtual desktop?
[02:56] <bruenig> he has done it wrong
[02:56] <bruenig> there is no concievable reason that wont work
[02:56] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: I suggested clean installing  earlier, but they didn't want to do that
[02:56] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, errrrgh....
[02:56] <ZykoticK9> juggalo483, if you trying a web app many won't work on linux - i'm affraid fewer seem to work with the openjava/icedtea then sun's version, BUT you can report stuff as potential bugs.  Good luck man.
[02:56] <cntrational> Agu10: virtual desktop?
[02:56] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: and hes new as well, last week apparently
[02:57] <Agu10> I mean workspaces
[02:57] <Agu10> in a specific workspace
[02:57] <Traveler3> zykotick9: got jave installed
[02:57] <Traveler3> #java
[02:57] <ZykoticK9> Traveler3, ya?
[02:57] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, that's gonna be a pain, fresh install would be easier than messing with pam specially since I dont know anything about the system76
[02:58] <Uboy> bruenig I use a live CD to change a password by this instructions > http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-ubuntu-password-easily-from-the-live-cd/ and Terminal said password successfuly updated but a problem still exist
[02:58] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: sure, but his computer isn't even a system76
[02:58] <cntrational> Agu10: compiz has a setting to always open a app in a specific workspace, but i don't think that's what you want
[02:58] <juggalo483> Zykotick9: traveler is me  lol just took a few sec. for the applet to load
[02:58] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, now you're just pulling my leg so what is it?
[02:58] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: no idea
[02:59] <sebsebseb> Uboy: which manufacture is your computer?
[02:59] <rpgsimmaster> On a different note, someone want to assist me? :P I'm booting Ubuntu 10.04 server, and one of my Software RAID arrays apparently has an error: "Serious errors were found while checking dthe disk drive for /var... Press F to attemp to fix the errors, I to ignore...." however, here it just freezes - it doesn't want to accept any of the valid keypresses; I know it's reading the keyboard, because I can switch virtual terminals, but I can't actually start
[02:59] <Guest87049> But I dont want to have a program open to run virtual machines. I want to literally have a distro of linux that I just pop in an install disc for another OS and have it install
[02:59] <juggalo483> Zykotick9: i use a java based IRC client
[02:59] <sebsebseb> Uboy: who made it?
[02:59] <Guest87049> I hope that clears what I am trying to say
[02:59] <Pirate_Hunter> Uboy, can you lshw and paste the contents to a pastebin site?
[02:59] <Uboy> sebsebseb Dell Vostro 1520
[02:59] <Agu10> cntrational, well, I want that in a console line command
[02:59] <ZykoticK9> juggalo483, it seems to be working ;)
[02:59] <sebsebseb> !pastebin
[02:59] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, have they got any access to the system i.e. recovery?
[02:59] <juggalo483> zykotick: Thanks a bunch
[02:59] <Agu10> to open the app in whichever workspace I'd like
[02:59] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: no recovery mode won't work
[03:00] <Guest87049> Does what I said clear it up any further?
[03:00] <cntrational> Agu10: hmm, I don't know about anything like that, sorry D:
[03:00] <rpgsimmaster> sebsebseb: What's the issue, and what do they say they have *absolutely* tried?
[03:00] <soadkombucha> rpgsimmaster: Almost everything
[03:00] <juggalo483> how do a reset my video should i just delete the Xorg.conf file?
[03:00] <Uboy> Guys Thanks For Helping, I'm Still Hear
[03:00] <rpgsimmaster> lol, is the issue almost everything, or what they've tried?
[03:00] <soadkombucha> juggalo483: Are you trying to restart X?
[03:01] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, oh wow this is getting better and better, I'll have to pass my skills wont suffice this time
[03:01] <soadkombucha> rpgsimmaster: They've tried almost everything.
[03:01] <rpgsimmaster> but what's the issue?
[03:01] <ZykoticK9> juggalo483, don't delete it, just move it to a different name
[03:01] <Guest87049> But I dont want to have a program open to run virtual machines. I want to literally have a distro of linux that I just pop in an install disc for another OS and have it install. does that clear it up at all?
[03:01] <rpgsimmaster> I came in late
[03:01] <bazhang> Guest87049, yes, but that has nothing to with ubuntu support
[03:01] <Dargon> hey guys, my cron says /usr/local/bin/php /home/kenko/www/crons.php > /home/kenko/cron.log 2>&1 is there any reason that theres absolutely nothing in cron.log?
[03:01] <soadkombucha> rpgsimmaster: Improper hardware installed fingerprint reader drivers preventing login
[03:01] <juggalo483> no i got a new graphics card
[03:01] <rpgsimmaster> ooooh
[03:01] <sebsebseb> rpgsimmaster: basically they can't  get into recovery mode,  so can't get their Ubuntu account password reset, they have tried a Live CD no good.   and they seem to have been trying to install a driver for a computer that isn't the one they are using
[03:01] <Guest87049> bazhang how do I accomplish this, then?
[03:01] <bazhang> Guest87049, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:01] <ll62> ilove you
[03:01] <Guest87049> thank you
[03:01] <rpgsimmaster> Guest87049: It sounds like you need a bare metal VM installation, but it's rarely ever that simple
[03:02] <juggalo483> i love you too 1162
[03:02] <Dargon> anyone help me with crons?
[03:02] <Pirate_Hunter> Guest87049, before asking that let me ask you is that even possible if so where did you read it
[03:02] <sebsebseb> rpgsimmaster: or whatever this is.  http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage
[03:02] <sebsebseb> http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage
[03:02] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: got enough info?
[03:03] <bazhang> Pirate_Hunter, feel free to join him in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:03] <RPG-Master> Anyone know of a way to turn a .odp and .ppt file into a full video complete with background music, for playback on a DVD player?
[03:03] <deserteagle> hello all
[03:03] <soadkombucha> Pirate_Hunter: You can run a linux kernel cocurrently along windows with colinux
[03:03] <Pirate_Hunter> bazhang, nope I'll stay here I dont think they are aware of what they are asking
[03:03] <Uboy> guys I'm here
[03:03] <rpgsimmaster> have they reverted the PAM files?
[03:03] <juggalo483> can i fun the explorer window as root/sudo
[03:03] <Dargon> !cron
[03:03] <deserteagle> i'm connecting my droid to my PC, but it always mounts for root access only. Any ideas? THanks!
[03:03] <rpgsimmaster> Also, any ideas for my problem anyone, I'm kind of stuck here
[03:04] <Uboy> rpgsimmaster i Edit a PAM file
[03:04] <Uboy> Guys Help me! My english doesn't very well
[03:05] <Pirate_Hunter> Uboy, where trying to figure out how to help you but I just dont know the problem and your system is on a 50% chance a system76 but than were not even sure so could you explain your problem using as much detail as possible and dont leave out something that might help us
[03:05] <cntrational> "My english doesn't very well" that must be intentional
[03:05] <Pirate_Hunter> juggalo483, huh?
[03:05] <juggalo483> any way to run explorer with read/write acess
[03:06] <sebsebseb> cntrational: no  I think its true, from all the communication I have had with them so far
[03:06] <Uboy> Pirate_Hunter ok
[03:06] <cntrational> sebsebseb: but it's so apt
[03:06] <Uboy> Pirate_Hunter > > Explain > after I'm triyng to apply this changes > http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage > my problem appears > my password doesn't work for authentificate command in sudo, instal package from software source and..... but log in page doesn't want me a password becouse I think i changed the setting to log in after problem occure, so I'm triying to change password bu GRUB and go to root shell, but GRUB doesn't complete that t
[03:07] <Pirate_Hunter> juggalo483, again huh...? explorer windows, ubuntu nautilus and if that is what your asking than use gksudo nautilus to run it as root but I wouldn't advise it as you could break your system
[03:07] <Uboy> Pirates_Hunter > is that enogh?
[03:07] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: look at point 4 on that webpage :)
[03:07] <rpgsimmaster> UBoy, what is your native language?
[03:07] <Uboy> Persian
[03:07] <rpgsimmaster> (I'm wondering if we'd have more success with a machine translation)
[03:07] <rpgsimmaster> ah
[03:07] <juggalo483> i just wanna be able to delete/rename files with out having to open command
[03:07] <sebsebseb> rpgsimmaster: or maybe he could explain  stuff, to people in a channel for his language, when done here
[03:08] <sebsebseb> rpgsimmaster: if can't be helped here properly I mean
[03:08] <Uboy> rpgsimmaster persian and sorry for much much more bad speaking in english1
[03:09] <sebsebseb> Uboy: who did you buy your computer from?
[03:09] <jmknsd> does Ubuntu work on the i3 on chip graphics?
[03:09] <Uboy> sebsebseb our IR Ubuntu channels are empty now
[03:09] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, just read it, it is actually states it clearly.... oh boi...
[03:09] <sebsebseb> Uboy: also your not even in USA or Canada are you?  if so you can't buy from System76
[03:09] <rpgsimmaster> UBoy: Just to check, have you attempted:
[03:09] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: point 4 you mean?
[03:09] <rpgsimmaster> - Booting from a Live Ubuntu CD-rom?
[03:09] <Pirate_Hunter> Uboy, can I ask why you can't reisntall the system again
[03:09] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: point 4 does sound like his problem
[03:09] <Uboy> sebsebseb I'm Live in IRAN not USA or Canda
[03:10] <deserteagle> i'm connecting my droid to my PC, but it always mounts for root access only. Any ideas? Thanks!
[03:10] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, yup it actually states it loud and clear
[03:10] <alouden> i just installed today and was wondering if there is a solution to the cursor jumping when I touch the touchpad with two fingers..other than not doing that
[03:10] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: indeed which has been said for a while now
[03:10] <rpgsimmaster> alouden: Is your touchpad multitouch?
[03:10] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Any luck?
[03:10] <alouden> doubt it
[03:11] <alouden> not sure actually
[03:11] <Uboy> Pirate_Hunter becouse i heared that Linux not need to reinstall like window and this only my resoan to choose linux
[03:11] <rpgsimmaster> Then probably not - it's by hardware design that it will do that
[03:11] <Pirate_Hunter> Uboy, how can I say this you got very little experience with linux, you just installed the OS a week ago, why can't you reformat it?
[03:11] <Kyoko> is there a way to dual boot ubuntu without overwriting the mbr?
[03:11] <sebsebseb> Uboy: the instructions on  this webpage http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage  ARE NOT FOR YOUR COMPUTER!
[03:11] <rpgsimmaster> UBoy: Have you booted into a Live CDRom?
[03:11] <rpgsimmaster> Kyoko: Yes
[03:11] <rpgsimmaster> The long answer is a little more complex :P
[03:11]  * rpgsimmaster curses Software RAID VERY LOUDLY
[03:12] <Uboy> sebsebseb OOKKK!
[03:12] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and since you used them, you have the problem that is mentioned on the webpage in 4.
[03:12] <Pirate_Hunter> Uboy, I understand what you mean but what people don't take into consideration is the learning curve and the experience, the longer you use it the less you'll need to reformat it, heck even I had to reformat my system a couple times as a beginner
[03:12] <Uboy> rpgsimmaster yes
[03:12] <deserteagle> hmm... ok how about this: how do I change the permissions on a mounted drive?
[03:13] <cntrational> it's generally a good idea to format after your system's gotten cluttered <.<
[03:13] <Uboy> ok. Guys I reformat my linux
[03:13] <sebsebseb> cntrational: or has the wrong driver installed
[03:13] <rpgsimmaster> Yes
[03:13] <Pirate_Hunter> rpgsimmaster, i'll let you take over this is too much fo my skills and suggesting chroot willl be harder than it seems
[03:13] <sebsebseb> Uboy: finally :)
[03:13] <rpgsimmaster> Does anyone know how to rebuild a Software RAID array from Ubuntu live CD?
[03:13] <sebsebseb> Uboy: oh if you set up a seperate /home when you install
[03:13] <Uboy> sebsebseb and other guys thanks for Helping
[03:13] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and there is a reason to re install in the future, makes it much easier
[03:13] <wise_crypt> Uboy: OS (operating system ) is just a tools it depends on how you use it :)
[03:13] <wise_crypt> *tool
[03:14] <cntrational> you could always just setup a /home partition
[03:14] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: want to tell him how to do that? sepereate home befoer installing,  I do want to go away from computer :)
[03:14] <cntrational> that'd make formatting much easier
[03:14] <sebsebseb> cntrational: yeah /  /home and swap
[03:14] <sebsebseb> cntrational: exactly
[03:14] <Pirate_Hunter> Uboy, I know it is not what you want to hear but at this point it ms the best option and please stay away from that page unless you're sure it actually works. do me a favour when you log in to your new system type this command sudo lshw > hardware-info.txt
[03:14] <soadkombucha> sebsebseb: You don't do a /boot?
[03:15] <Uboy> sebsebseb my /home is in another Partition1
[03:15] <sebsebseb> cntrational: and his swap will be ok,  but he will need to get rid of /
[03:15] <soadkombucha> sebsebseb: I make a 100MB partition for /boot so all my kernels are alone
[03:15] <cntrational> yup
[03:15] <soadkombucha> Uboy: then you could reinstall
[03:15] <sebsebseb> soadkombucha: no need to do seperate /boot untill its  well I guess still need it for XFS, and need it for the optional btrfs  support in development versions of 10.10
[03:15] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, nope cause it will take longer and I dont even know what system they have as far as I can tell a reformat is the best option
[03:15] <sebsebseb> soadkombucha: unless its, above
[03:15] <cntrational> /boot?
[03:15] <soadkombucha> sebsebseb: I like having my kernels separately. Plus it's the first partition on my disk.
[03:16] <sebsebseb> Uboy: Ubuntu is teh only OS on the computer?  no Windows?
[03:16] <soadkombucha> sebsebseb: And I have a 500GB HDD I didn't want my linux partition too large. I have 15GB root, 5GB home, 2GB swap, 100MB boot, 50GB windows, and the rest (about 393GB) is data
[03:16] <Uboy> sebsebseb No Windows is commonly used in teh
[03:17] <soadkombucha> sebsebseb: And the data is on an extended partition, I'm thinking about figuring out Hackintosh or trying out chromium OS
[03:17] <rpgsimmaster> Uboy: That was not the question
[03:17] <cntrational> ...what
[03:17] <rpgsimmaster> Uboy: Is Linux the only Operating System you have currently installed on the system?
[03:17] <cntrational> Uboy: "teh" was just a mistake for "the"
[03:17] <Uboy> Pirate_Hunter where exactly i must type sudo lshw ?
[03:17] <soadkombucha> OK my audio won't play at all
[03:17] <alouden>  Using two fingers in a pinching  motion will zoom in and out, and moving a finger in a circular motion  will scroll.
[03:17] <Uboy> sorry guys1
[03:17] <Uboy> ok
[03:17] <Uboy> yes
[03:17] <alouden> does that mean its multi touch or just sort of
[03:18] <rpgsimmaster> that's multitouch
[03:18] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok makes re install easy
[03:18] <Pirate_Hunter> Uboy, if you choose to reistall your linux distro than in you can type that in terminal once you log in
[03:18] <Uboy> the linux is only os on my laptop
[03:18] <sebsebseb> Uboy: with seperate /home as well
[03:18] <alouden> so what does that mean to me
[03:18] <sebsebseb> !home | Uboy
[03:18] <rpgsimmaster> alouden: Er... you have a multitouch touchpad? I'm not sure of the answer you're looking for here
[03:18] <cntrational> alouden: what does what mean to you
[03:18] <Uboy> sebsebseb u mean /home must be in another partition of HDD
[03:18] <Uboy> ?
[03:19] <sebsebseb> Uboy: it is a good idea
[03:19] <sebsebseb> Uboy: makes re installing much easier
[03:19] <cntrational> Uboy: it doesn't have to be, but it's a good idea, yeah
[03:19] <alouden> can i stop the cursor from jumping around or do i just have to be careful not to touch with more than one finger
[03:19] <sebsebseb> Uboy: or when your more expereinced,  and maybe wanting to try another distro, it would make that easier as well
[03:19] <soadkombucha> Can anyone help me get my audio working?
[03:19] <rpgsimmaster> alouden: You should be able to disable multitouch, if you do not want it
[03:19] <cntrational> ooh is that a guide to moving your home partition
[03:19] <alouden> ok thanks
[03:19] <rpgsimmaster> alouden: from memory, under the Mouse preferences, there is an option there to disable it
[03:19] <cntrational> this'll be useful
[03:20] <Uboy> sebsebseb tnx
[03:20] <Pirate_Hunter> Uboy, I got sometime I can help you with the reinstall if you want to do it now instead of going in a loop on the same issue and getting nowhere
[03:20] <sebsebseb> cntrational: want to help him partition for the seperate /home as well, if he comes back on the Live CD?
[03:20] <soadkombucha> Can anyone help me get my audio working? Not actually the sound but playing media files
[03:20] <alouden> it is disabled
[03:20] <rpgsimmaster> alouden: Most curious. I would say the settings are therefore wrong
[03:20] <wildbat> sometime my laptop can't wake up to ubuntu after suspend ~ it just power on and freeze w/ black screen , how do i troubleshoot it
[03:20] <Uboy> Pirate_Hunter tnx
[03:20] <Pirate_Hunter> soadkombucha, have you got the codecs
[03:20] <sebsebseb> cntrational: swap should be fine, from his original install.   so just remove /   and make a new 10GB or so I guess, and big seperate home, both Ext4, and done
[03:20] <soadkombucha> Pirate_Hunter: I installed the restricted pack
[03:20] <sebsebseb> cntrational: I mean I want to go away from the computer soon really
[03:20] <aretrfre34> how to hookup 2 ubuntus via wifi?
[03:20] <Pirate_Hunter> !codecs | soadkombucha
[03:21] <aretrfre34> ubottu:wifi
[03:21] <soadkombucha> Pirate_Hunter: I have the restricted pack
[03:21] <Uboy> sepsepsep, before I install linux I creat 3 partition 1 > sda1 for root 2> swap area 3> /home, this was enogh?
[03:21] <alouden> settings where doesnt look like i can do a lot in the system, mouse, etc area
[03:21] <cntrational> sebsebseb: oh uh, maybe
[03:21] <cntrational> sebsebseb: i might not be here, either
[03:21] <sebsebseb> Uboy: come back on the Live CD
[03:21] <sebsebseb> Uboy: get it booted now
[03:22] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and i'll tell you how to partition :)
[03:22] <aretrfre34> ubottu:wifi didnt helped
[03:22] <Pirate_Hunter> soadkombucha, you mean ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[03:22] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and then thats it I am so done, with Ubuntu support for tonight :)
[03:22] <soadkombucha> Pirate_Hunter: Yes.
[03:22] <Uboy> sebsebseb I partitioned my HDD already now
[03:22] <sebsebseb> Uboy: boot the Ubuntu CD, the live session, and come back here on it, yeah?
[03:22] <sebsebseb> Uboy: yes, but
[03:22] <sebsebseb> Uboy: not the way
[03:23] <sebsebseb> Uboy: are you on the Live CD now?
[03:23] <Uboy> sebsebseb ok wait
[03:23] <Uboy> sebsebseb before that I mustnt move or copy anything to another partition?
[03:23] <sebsebseb> Uboy: have you loaded up from the Ubuntu CD?
[03:24] <sebsebseb> Uboy: are you using the Ubuntu CD now?
[03:24] <soadkombucha> Pirate_Hunter: And system sounds work.
[03:24] <Uboy> sebsebseb restart pc and use the LIVE session?
[03:24] <sebsebseb> Uboy: use the live session on the Ubuntu CD
[03:24] <soadkombucha> Pirate_Hunter: And so do youtube videos...
[03:24] <Uboy> sebsebseb ok
[03:25] <Uboy> wait
[03:25] <jmknsd> does Ubuntu 10.04 work on the i3 on-chip graphics? or is there some sort of supported hardware website I am not seeing
[03:25] <alouden> rpgsimmaster, on second look, i dont see an option to disable multitouch  or is that something that is done in pc setup
[03:25] <rpgsimmaster> hmmmm
[03:25] <rpgsimmaster> alas, not having multitouch myself, I can't be of any more use here
[03:26] <alouden> ok
[03:26] <alouden> thanks anyway
[03:27] <soadkombucha> Pirate_Hunter: I'm really confused
[03:29] <alex_mayorga> hi! How can I get the list of bluetooth MAC addresses of the devices paired to my laptop?
[03:29] <juggalo4833> ok. so how do i install a file ending tar.bz2
[03:29] <soadkombucha> juggalo4833: You have to compile it from source
[03:30] <soadkombucha> juggalo4833: Do you know how to use the terminal?
[03:30] <aurilliance> Yesterday I finally got my eGalax touchscreen working again after updating to 10.04 - Now I want to get it working *with screen rotation*. When I rotate the screen, the touchscreen calibration still thinks it is not rotated, anyone know how to fix this?
[03:30] <juggalo4833> kinda
[03:30] <soadkombucha> juggalo4833: What driver is it?
[03:30] <juggalo4833> its not its the updated firefox
[03:30] <soadkombucha> What version?
[03:31] <kent\n> I've been having some mindnumbing headaches with regard to (possibly) dnsmasq, but also possibly something else. Firstly, for some bizzare reason I cannot make out (or diagnose), machines randomly lose TCP/IP connectivity to my ubuntu box, and its only ever one machine at a time, and when this happens, they also stop being able to request/update dhcp leases ( happens under both windows and linux -_- )
[03:31] <juggalo4833> 3.6.4
[03:31] <thune3> jmknsd: reports in forums are that graphics work fine (suspend/resume problems have been reported though). i say try the liveCD and see for yourself.
[03:31] <cntrational> juggalo4833: you shouldn't install firefox like that
[03:31] <soadkombucha> juggalo4833: where did you save the file to?
[03:31] <juggalo4833> downloads
[03:31] <cntrational> juggalo4833: if you do, you'd have to download and recompile to update again
[03:31] <juggalo4833> then how do i update
[03:32] <kent\n> additionally to my above problem, dnsmasq for some reason keeps having /var/run/dnsmasq/resolv.conf as an empty file, I would report this bug on launchpad, but the signup rigmarole is way too much -_-
[03:32] <soadkombucha> juggalo4833: I'm looking
[03:32] <jmknsd> thanks thune3, I'm just shopping for a laptop atm,  and want to make sure it has supported hardware
[03:32] <soadkombucha> juggalo4833: Can't you just update through firefox itself?
[03:32] <juggalo4833> no option
[03:32] <cntrational> soadkombucha: it's disabled in ubuntu's version of firefox
[03:32]  * kent\n is welcome to suggestions, and will try not being an ass, seriously, but it may take a bit of self-restraint -_-
[03:32] <soadkombucha> cntrational: Odd.
[03:33] <aretrfre34> how to hookup 2 ubuntus via wifi?
[03:33] <juggalo4833> would it hurt my os to install that way
[03:33] <aurilliance> anyone know how to get an egalax touchscreen to handle screen rotation?
[03:34] <Nola> how many years do you think before Ubuntu will start to be as good as Windows 7?
[03:34] <sebsebseb> Uboy: I nearly left the computer, hi again
[03:34] <aretrfre34> how to hookup 2 ubuntus via wifi?
[03:34] <aurilliance> Nola, negative, several
[03:34] <kent\n> Nola: thats probably a negative value
[03:35] <sebsebseb> Uboy: on the CD?
[03:35] <Uboy> sebsebseb I'm Here in Live CD Session
[03:35] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok
[03:35] <juggalo4833> guys http://linuxers.org/howto/how-update-your-firefox-364-ubuntu-1004-lucid-lynx
[03:35] <sebsebseb> Uboy: I want to see what your current partition set up is, so  system > administration > partition editor
[03:35] <Uboy> sebsebseb and sorry for Delay
[03:35] <kent\n> Nola: also, "better" is an entirely subjective thing, some people think DOS is better than windows 7
[03:35] <cntrational> juggalo4833: i can tell you how to add a mozilla repository that'll give you the latest updates
[03:35] <Nola> well
[03:35] <Uboy> ok
[03:35] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and show me a screenshot
[03:35] <sebsebseb> !screenshot | Uboy
[03:35] <Nola> you cant go to a web page and download a program for linux
[03:35] <Uboy> sebsebseb ok
[03:35] <cntrational> to be fair, Win7's taskbar is pretty awesome
[03:35] <Nola> and then uncompress it and run
[03:36] <Nola> but windows can
[03:36] <aurilliance> I would say 10.04's support for drivers out of the box was on par with win7, but this is probably for offtopic chat
[03:36] <kent\n> Nola: so, we consider that a *perk*
[03:36] <Nola> so its gonna be a good while before linux is capable
[03:36] <aretrfre34> Nola:you are awsome
[03:36] <Nola> a perk how?
[03:36] <kent\n> Nola: just download and run is why windows is so full of viruses !
[03:36] <aretrfre34> how to hookup 2 ubuntus via wifi?
[03:36] <Joshua_Roberts> Nola, Windows doesn't have repositories either.  I can't update everything on a Win7 machine with one command or menu option.
[03:36] <Uboy> sebsebseb i have partition editor, another one
[03:36] <sebsebseb> Windows 7
[03:36] <sebsebseb> blah de blah
[03:36] <sebsebseb> Vista version 2
[03:36] <sebsebseb> blah de blah
[03:37] <sebsebseb> !ot
[03:37] <FloodBot2> sebsebseb: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:37] <Uboy> sebsebseb name Disk Utility
[03:37] <sebsebseb> 44444444444444444444444444445
[03:37] <Nola> well at my university we had a project of maintaining and releasing a package that our group had put together
[03:37] <Nola> it took 3 weeks to even get it packaged up and attempt to be usable on different linux distros
[03:37] <cntrational> sebsebseb: win 7 is pretty good
[03:37] <sebsebseb> Uboy: system > administration > partition editor
[03:37] <Pirate_Hunter> irony sebsebseb  being told off by obottu
[03:37] <kent\n> Nola: also, all the software on $Distro is supported, for free, by that distribution . Unlike windows where ,er, yes, good luck getting any support for ANYTHING, even if you're paying for it
[03:37] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: not ubottu  FloodBot2
[03:38] <Joshua_Roberts> What are some methods to mount a passworded network share on boot with open box?
[03:38] <Nola> linux int gonna catch on until you can download software from pages
[03:38] <Nola> *is not
[03:38] <Pirate_Hunter> Nola, seriously #off-topic and I stand corrected sebsebseb
[03:38] <sebsebseb> cntrational: it stil shoudn't really be online :)  security reasons, more secure than XP though
[03:38] <kent\n> Nola: that is your belief, but I completely disagree =)
[03:38] <Uboy> sebsebseb > the utilitu for disk in lucid is Disk Utility, wait for screenshot
[03:38] <sebsebseb> Uboy: no gparted/partitioneditor should be on the CD
[03:39] <cntrational> Nola: you can, actually, with .deb files
[03:39] <Uboy> sebsebseb http://img22.img98.com/out.php/i111072_Screenshot.png
[03:39] <sebsebseb> !gparted
[03:39] <aretrfre34> how to activate alt-f2-6 consoles?
[03:39] <jojogizmoajke> I have a problem
[03:39] <lobito> hello
[03:39] <juggalo4833> firefox update worked
[03:39] <Guest81801> 122
[03:39] <jojogizmoajke> I have a linux vps first time ever using linux lol
[03:39] <aretrfre34> if i go alt-f2 it just blinks not active
[03:39] <Joshua_Roberts> Nola; you do know that almost all of 7's great ideas came from linux don't you...?
[03:39] <jojogizmoajke> so i managed to ssh? into the machine and start vnc
[03:39] <lobito> I did the upgrade to ubuntu 10.04 but like every minute my screen blinks
[03:39] <kent\n> cntrational: neg, you still have to "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"
[03:40] <kent\n> cntrational: thats "too hard!"
[03:40] <jojogizmoajke> But when i tried installing gui i get this
[03:40] <lobito> is there a problem with xorg.conf ? or what it could be?
[03:40] <Uboy> sebsebseb ok and screenshot of gparted > http://img22.img98.com/out.php/i111074_Screenshot1.png
[03:40] <jojogizmoajke> http://pastebin.com/eqh1uMhg
[03:40] <jojogizmoajke> idk
[03:40] <sharedLan> why can't i browse mshome network?? why can't i browse my other ubuntu pc? on the same network..it's linked and shared
[03:40] <cellofellow> cntrational: actually, you can just double-click a .deb file in Nautilus and install it.
[03:40] <jojogizmoajke> what did i do wrong
[03:40] <sebsebseb> Uboy: hrm
[03:40] <cntrational> cellofellow: yes that's what i said
[03:41] <Uboy> sebsebseb relax i'm w8
[03:41] <sebsebseb> Uboy: no partition editor or gparted in  system > administratino ?
[03:41] <sharedLan> i would like to update the other ubuntu pc to 10.4 but it has no cd-rom?
[03:41]  * cellofellow decides to pay closer attention
[03:41] <jojogizmoajke> anyone help me?
[03:41] <Joshua_Roberts> sharedLan? does it have a network connection?
[03:41] <Uboy> sebsebseb , yes I have gparted and disk utility
[03:41]  * sebsebseb might boot up that 10.04 ISO in a vm, stil hasnt' used it for anything
[03:41] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok gparted is what we want
[03:41] <sharedLan> it is shared via wifi and cable yes..
[03:41] <cntrational> kent\n: you can doubleclick to install, as cellofellow said, yeah
[03:41] <cellofellow> sharedLan: you can use a thumbdrive to install, or you can be adventerous and set up a terminal server to install from.
[03:41] <Uboy> gparted screenshot: http://img22.img98.com/out.php/i111074_Screenshot1.png
[03:42] <Joshua_Roberts> have you tried upgrading through apt or update center?
[03:42] <Uboy> sebsebseb gparted screenshot http://img22.img98.com/out.php/i111074_Screenshot1.png
[03:42] <sharedLan> josh yes
[03:42] <Uboy> sebsebseb diskutilitu screenshot http://img22.img98.com/out.php/i111072_Screenshot.png
[03:42] <Uboy> sebsebseb ?
[03:42] <Joshua_Roberts> what about making a usb bootable install?
[03:43] <sharedLan> it doesnt support usb boot i dont think..
[03:43] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok not quite the set up I was expecting, you have a seperate /boot
[03:43] <sharedLan> but how would i do that anyway?
[03:43] <sorcha> hi i need some help when someone has time
[03:43] <cntrational> sharedLan: what os are you using
[03:43] <sebsebseb> !ask | sorcha
[03:43] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, are you trying to guide them into doing a separate /home why use gparted why not do it straight form install menu?
[03:43] <aretrfre34> how to activate alt-f2-6 consoles?
[03:43] <jojogizmoajke> can anyone help :(
[03:44] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: through manual install is one way yes
[03:44] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: and probably will do that
[03:44] <Joshua_Roberts> I thought there used to be an option on the web site. and there used to be some tutorials on the web about how to use an existing ubuntu install to create a usb install stick.
[03:44] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: want to see what partitions they had first, and yes I know there is also a command
[03:44] <sharedLan> snt ubuntu 10
[03:44] <Uboy> sebsebseb is everything for partitions ok?
[03:44] <sharedLan> studio
[03:44] <sebsebseb> Uboy: how did you install Ubuntu before?  did you do manual install?
[03:44] <Uboy> sebsebseb yes
[03:44] <sorcha> ok i am new to linux, trying to get qavimator to run in linux, it has instructions but i am looking at them and wondering what they mean
[03:45] <Joshua_Roberts> sharelan, it is on the website as an option, create cd or usb stick...
[03:45] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok good this will  make things easier then, since you have already used manual install
[03:45] <sharedLan> kk josh i'll try it
[03:45] <sebsebseb> Uboy: why did you do a seperate /boot by the way?
[03:45] <aretrfre34> how to hookup 2 ubuntus via wifi?
[03:45] <thune3> aretrfre34: gettys should be available with ctrl-alt-f[1-6], sometimes framebuffer/graphics issues cause problems for them. what hardware do you have?
[03:45] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, okyour the captain of the boat I'll let you take full command
[03:46] <cellofellow> aretrfre34: what exactly are you trying to do?
[03:46] <Joshua_Roberts> sharedLan choose USB stick and then Ubuntu in the next option line and click show me how.
[03:46] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: maybe its of a pirate boat, and now your well hunting me
[03:46] <Uboy> sebsebseb no I didn't make a seperate partition for /boot!
[03:46] <sharedLan> kk i am also seeding these have they been updated in the past 4 days?
[03:46] <sebsebseb> Uboy: well according to the screenshot you have one
[03:46] <aretrfre34> thune:intel gfx
[03:47] <Uboy> sebsebseb gparted or disk utility?
[03:47] <aretrfre34> cellofellow:I wanna hookup to pcs to each other, to make them ping each other
[03:47] <sebsebseb> Uboy: gparted
[03:48] <sebsebseb> Uboy: also why do you have a big NTFS partition, I thought you told me that Windows wasn't on there?
[03:48] <cellofellow> aretrfre34: using an ad-hoc wifi network, or something?
[03:48] <Uboy> sebsebseb I creat this partition with NTFS format manully
[03:48] <sharedLan> should i re d/l the image files from website? to be sure i'm seeding the most recent files?
[03:48] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok your going to do this correctly with Ext4
[03:48] <sebsebseb> Uboy: my way :)
[03:48] <aretrfre34> cellofellow:no directly wifi cards on each
[03:48] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, nope not hunting you you help them will just add to my skills and knowledge we learn from each other
[03:49] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: no that was a joke, since your IRC nick :D
[03:49] <Uboy> sebsebseb becouse if in future I use a window my pictures, music and .... shown in windows
[03:49] <sebsebseb> Uboy: if your going to have Windows on there, you should put it on first really
[03:49] <sebsebseb> Uboy: since if you do it after Ubuntu, Windows makes it so only Windows boots up,  and then you would have to mess around with Grub 2 to get Ubuntu to boot again, and uh
[03:49] <cellofellow> aretrfre34: ok, yeah, they call that ad-hoc. I've never done this myself, but I think they way to work it is to on one of the machines "create a new wireless network" in NetworkManager, and have the other join. They should each give themselves ZeroConf IP addresses in the 169.254.0.0/16 range. Then, you can ping and whatnot.
[03:50] <HeTaL> And messing with grub 2 isn't the best thing around.
[03:50] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and what HeTaL  put
[03:50] <Uboy> sebsebseb all of it means I change the format to Ext4?
[03:50] <sebsebseb> Uboy: is Windows going on the computer?  if so,  make that choice now
[03:51] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, I know :D
[03:51] <sebsebseb> Uboy: Windows does not play nice with other operating systems
[03:51] <pollywog> is it appropriate to ask for help with Evolution here?
[03:51] <sebsebseb> Uboy: so if you put it on after another operating system,  it makes it so only Windows will boot up
[03:51] <sebsebseb> pollywog: yes
[03:51] <Uboy> sebsebseb Perhaps in future I have to use window for working by Special Eletronic Programs
[03:51] <aretrfre34> cellofellow:tried joiner can't see ad-hoc
[03:52] <sebsebseb> Uboy: well then you should put it on now before Ubuntu
[03:52] <cellofellow> aretrfre34: well, you got me.
[03:52] <Uboy> sebsebseb there is only 1 OS in my system every time ok?
[03:52] <sebsebseb> Uboy: you can dual boot
[03:52] <sebsebseb> Uboy: have Windows and Ubuntu on the same computer
[03:52] <pollywog> I do not run a mail server for my domain, it is hosted elsewhere.  Is there a way to get Evolution to reject foreign character sets or treat emails containing them as junk?
[03:53] <sebsebseb> Uboy: then choose which one to run, when the computer is turned on or re booted
[03:53] <Uboy> sebsebseb : I know but I don't linke tu have a window and ubuntu toghether
[03:53] <juggalo4834> anyone have issues with flash craching during fuillscreen
[03:53] <soadkombucha> juggalo4834: Haven't fullscreened flash yet
[03:53] <aretrfre34> why if run weechat in root, cannot connect to servers?
[03:53] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok well lets do this partition set up, and if you remember how to do it, you can do something similar later on as well
[03:54] <ruari> sebsebseb: I run ubuntu native and then vmplayer for my xp windoze box
[03:54] <juggalo4834> wanna go try for me
[03:54] <ruari> works micely
[03:54] <sebsebseb> Runar: yes I know virtual machines :) ,but I have a feeling  that Uboy might not have enough RAM
[03:54] <sebsebseb> Uboy: how much RAM do you have any idea?
[03:54] <Uboy> sebsebseb: the NTFS partition is for future, becouse if i decide to use windows I need the DATA
[03:54] <sebsebseb> Uboy: look at this
[03:54] <sebsebseb> Uboy: this is for the old Grub, but look
[03:54] <sebsebseb> !grub | Uboy
[03:55] <aretrfre34> how switch between consoles, alf-f1-6 ctr-alt-f1-6 just show blinking no wellcome messages
[03:55] <alex_mayorga> can someone help me with my bluetooth woes?
[03:55] <sebsebseb> Uboy: if you want to have both on the same computer  Ubuntu and Windows,  Windows should be installed first.
[03:55] <Uboy> sebsebseb my size of ram?
[03:55] <juggalo4834> how do i change my nick
[03:55] <alex_mayorga> need the MAC address of my phone to file a police report as it was stolen :(
[03:55] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and if you have enough RAM and such so like at least 1GB I would say, you could virtual machine Windows inside Ubuntu as ruari  was suggesting
[03:56] <cellofellow> juggalo4834: most clients, the /nick newnick command
[03:56] <Uboy> sebsebseb no If i decide to use windows i Erase carefully linux then install windows
[03:56] <juggalo4834> tryed that
[03:56] <sorcha> i have been told i can run some windows programs in Ubuntu, how would i do this please?
[03:56] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok
[03:56] <cellofellow> juggalo4834: which client?
[03:56] <sebsebseb> Uboy: well hopefuly you will dual boot later on if you want to do Windows as well :)
[03:56] <sebsebseb> !dualboot | Uboy
[03:56] <Uboy> sebsebseb ok
[03:56] <juggalo4834> flash irc located here  http://java.freenode.com
[03:56] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok now do the Ubuntu installer
[03:57] <Uboy> sebsebseb u means Now install Ubuntu again?
[03:57] <sebsebseb> Uboy: user name and password and such.  so letters and numbers at least for password,  characters such as £ $  %  ^ to make a bit more secure if you really want.  and I always do more than 8 letters/numbers/characters
[03:57] <cellofellow> juggalo4834: http://webchat.freenode.com is better. AJAX instead of Java.
[03:57] <cellofellow> juggalo4834: even better, a real client.
[03:57] <sebsebseb> Uboy: then when it gets to partitioniong do manual install, and i'll tell you what to do
[03:57] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, suggest vbox and have them setup windows than start it with command such as VBoxHeadless -startvm "name of machine with quotes" than use rdesktop to run it
[03:57] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: sure, but we don't know if Uboy 's computer can handle Virtualbox yet
[03:58] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: altough theres a command to find out RAM,  can't remember what, and the output is rather geek
[03:58] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, should do if it handles the desktop but than... free -m if I aint mistaken
[03:58] <ebhc> I have a DNS problem I was hoping someone could help me out with.
[03:58] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, -m for megabytes
[03:58] <cellofellow> !ask | ebhc
[03:59] <ruari> free -m yepper
[03:59] <sebsebseb> Uboy: so when you get to partitioning and you select manual install, tell me
[03:59] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, yup just tried it, it works free -m
[03:59] <Uboy> sebsebseb, I'm so tired, it is now 17 hours I'm on the laptop! plz let me u help me later every time u tell me. can u plz?
[03:59] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok uhmm
[03:59] <soadkombucha> Pirate_Hunter: I reinstalled most of my audio stuff and got it working
[03:59] <pollywog> is the only way to reject or delete emails with foreign character sets to use fetchmail and procmail?  I use Evolution but do not run the mail server for my domain.
[04:00] <ruari> ebhc: what knida of dns problem?
[04:00] <Uboy> sebsebseb so so tnx and much much more
[04:00] <Pirate_Hunter> soadkombucha, awww nice
[04:00] <sebsebseb> Uboy: 17 hours non stop?
[04:00] <soadkombucha> Does anyone know how to get the media control keys on a Toshiba Satellite L500D-ST2543 to work? My volume control doesn't work and neither do my media kes
[04:00] <EntityReborn> Hey guys. Got a system running Server 9.04, can someone lead me to a guide for getting name servers installed and running on it?
[04:00] <sebsebseb> Uboy: lets do this later then :)
[04:00] <soadkombucha> Pirate_Hunter: Yeah there's one thing left from ubuntu being perfectly working
[04:00] <Uboy> no with 2 hours stop
[04:00] <Uboy> ok
[04:00] <sebsebseb> Uboy: 2 hours stop?
[04:00] <Uboy> sebsebseb yes
[04:01] <sebsebseb> Uboy:  its getting late here well is already really
[04:01] <sebsebseb> Uboy: this won't take long
[04:01] <Uboy> i've headacke
[04:01] <ebhc> I have a Ubuntu box acting as a firewall/router for my internal network and the two windows boxes I have hooked up to it work just fine but DNS can't resolve on the two bsd boxes I have hooked up.  I'm able to ssh to all boxes no problem.  Any ideas?
[04:01] <Pirate_Hunter> its 4 in the morning I am still wondering what im doing here
[04:01] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ,but if you want to do it later, uhmm  you can catch me again in like 14 hours from now or something
[04:01] <Uboy> sebsebseb ok tnx
[04:01] <soadkombucha> Pirate_Hunter: Who knows. You any good with getting keys to work?
[04:01] <jugalo483> yo dawgs
[04:01] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: same time zone :D
[04:01] <vaul> Could anyone tell me a command of the «CD/DVD» creator application launcher?
[04:01] <rpgsim[away]> ebhc: Are you able to ping outside addresses?
[04:01] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: and I know what I am doing here, but it wasn't planned
[04:01] <rpgsim[away]> as in the actual IP addresses
[04:01] <vaul> Accidentaly deleted it.
[04:02] <Pirate_Hunter> shouldn't the desktop option have keyboard command in system>*
[04:02] <ebhc> rpgsim: one sec
[04:02] <Uboy> sebsebseb what your time of country exaxtly now?
[04:02] <ruari> route -n showing your default gateway?
[04:02] <cellofellow> ebhc: what does /etc/resolv.conf in the client boxes look like?
[04:02] <sebsebseb> Uboy: anyway  i'll be around later and such
[04:02] <kostkon> vaul, "brasero"?
[04:02] <vaul> kostkon: No.
[04:02] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: I like this time of year though, its about to get light :D
[04:02] <kostkon> vaul, :/
[04:02] <vaul> kostkon: Look at the «Edit menu» thing, they are different application.
[04:02] <jugalo483> you guys have been a big help in the transformation between windows and ubuntu
[04:03] <vaul> kostkon: Applications, I meant.
[04:03] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: however want to get some sleep before watching  England play Germany,  and my sleeping is rather uh at the moment
[04:03] <kostkon> vaul, oh right, w8
[04:03] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, well Iat 9 I was meant to find some batteries which has got me into an adventure which I wont discuss on IRC and yeah I agree with you its a good time of the year
[04:03] <ebhc> I can't ping any outside ips, and the resolv.conf has the nameservers for my isp listed.
[04:03] <rpgsimmaster> Pirate_Hunter, sebsebseb speak for yourselves - it's winter here :S
[04:03] <rpgsimmaster> ebhc: Then your problem is not DNS resolution
[04:03] <sebsebseb> rpgsimmaster: Australlia? New Zealand?
[04:04] <Uboy> sebsebseb tnx a lot and I see u here 14 hours from now
[04:04] <cellofellow> ebhc: ok, so it's not a DNS problem, it's an IP problem.
[04:04] <vaul> kostkon: It's all due to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alacarte/+bug/118936 bug, which is not fixed for some three years.
[04:04] <rpgsimmaster> sebsebseb: NZ
[04:04] <rpgsimmaster> ebhc: Are your systems able to ping internal IPs?
[04:04] <kostkon> vaul,   the command is:  nautilus --no-default-window --no-desktop burn:///
[04:04] <sebsebseb> Uboy: yeah or something like that I guess
[04:04] <sebsebseb> Uboy: i'll be around again later
[04:04] <Pirate_Hunter> rpgsimmaster, dont worry over here (UK) we get all seasons in a day no matter what time of the year :( an winter well dont want to remember
[04:04] <cntrational> sebsebseb: he could've been in africa or south america or something :V
[04:04] <ebhc> rpg: yes, I can ping and ssh to all boxes on my internal network
[04:04] <rpgsimmaster> Pirate_Hunter: NZ is much the same
[04:04] <Uboy> sebsebseb ok, Tnx a lot too, have fun with World Cup !
[04:04] <rpgsimmaster> ebhc: Is your firewall permitting your BSD boxes to route through?
[04:05] <sebsebseb> cntrational: oh yeah South America get winter when we get summer as well,  I think
[04:05] <rpgsimmaster> perhaps it's a restrictive firewall, and not a problem with your BSD boxes
[04:05] <alex_mayorga> any ideas on querying for bluetoth addresses of paired devices
[04:05] <soadkombucha> Anyone in here ever used keytouch?
[04:05] <cntrational> sebsebseb: everything in the southern hemisphere is like that
[04:05] <ebhc> rpg: see that's the thing, I'm pretty sure it's my firewall on ubuntu as I've hooked up the bsd boxes directly to my cable modem and it works no problem.
[04:05] <Pirate_Hunter> of to a shower than sleep too much for me bye all
[04:06] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: showever at this time?
[04:06] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: a little bit past 4am
[04:06] <vaul> kostkon: Please recheck, it gives me an error.
[04:06] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, like I said I was off to an adventure believe me I need a shower
[04:07] <ruari> wbhc : and you checked your default gateway?
[04:07] <kostkon> vaul, hmm, it works here. try leaving a space after burn:///
[04:07] <ebhc> ruari: default gateway?
[04:07] <rpgsimmaster> ebhc: Have you checked for static routes?
[04:07] <ruari> does your firewall log denials
[04:08] <sorcha> can anyone help me get a window program working in Ubuntu?
[04:08] <sebsebseb> !wine | sorcha
[04:08] <sebsebseb> sorcha: Which program?
[04:08] <vaul> kostkon: I though that ":///" part is some weird smile. :)
[04:08] <sorcha> i am trying to get qavimator working
[04:08] <kostkon> vaul, lol
[04:08] <sorcha> it has instuctions for linux, but i am lost on what it means
[04:08] <cellofellow> ebhc: you can check your systems routing dtable with "route"
[04:09] <ebhc> rpg: not sure how to check for static routes.  I was using webmin to setup iptables but then switched to firestarter.
[04:09] <vaul> kostkon: Now you why that "wrapping" near commands is neccessary sometimes. :)
[04:09] <sebsebseb> sorcha: I don't know what that is
[04:09] <vaul> kostkon: Thank you, it works.
[04:09] <ruari> bsd it is netstat -rn
[04:09] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: It is not, exactly, a Windows program
[04:09] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: The instructions you see on the page are to be typed into a console
[04:09] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: They will compile the program on your Ubuntu system
[04:09] <ruari> that should show you default gateway
[04:10] <sorcha> ok what console
[04:10] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: go Alt+F2; do you get the run dialog?
[04:10] <k-rad> i may have been rash in my criticism of ubuntu
[04:10] <soadkombucha> Does anyone know how to enable the Satellite L500D-ST2543 media keys?
[04:10]  * cellofellow defers to ruari who obviously knows a thing or two about BSD that he doesn't.
[04:10] <sorcha> yes i did
[04:11] <rpgsimmaster> type in 'gnome-terminal'
[04:11] <rpgsimmaster> do you get a terminal window?
[04:11] <kostkon> vaul, in most cases to wrap filenames. instead of giving for example: command -i my\ file, you need the '\ ' to escape the spaces in the filename; an easier way is: command -i "my file"
[04:11] <sebsebseb> kostkon: ok
[04:11] <sebsebseb> kostkon: wrong one
[04:11] <sebsebseb> k-rad: ok
[04:11] <pondera> what is the code name for ubuntu 10.04 ?
[04:11] <sebsebseb> k-rad: well I don't know what you said, but
[04:11] <ebhc> rpg: on the ubuntu box the default gateway shows my isp ip.
[04:11] <sorcha> yes kinda like the old dos
[04:11] <soadkombucha> pondera: Lusty Lynx I think
[04:11] <rpgsimmaster> ebhc: Good. Now have you checked your firewall rules?
[04:11] <ruari> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/freebsd-setup-default-routing-with-route-command/
[04:12] <soadkombucha> lucid lynx
[04:12] <soadkombucha> pondera: Why
[04:12] <pondera> whats the one b4 THAT ?
[04:12] <vaul> kostkon: I knew that. I meant wrapping in quotes in the chat, when communicating.
[04:12] <rpgsimmaster> soadkombucha: Lol at lusty lynx
[04:12] <pondera> i want to install mana world
[04:12] <sebsebseb> k-rad: your entitled to an opinion about Ubuntu, even if it is wrong and unfair
[04:12] <soadkombucha> pondera: Intrepid Ibex and Hardy Heron are 8
[04:12] <k-rad> i wouldn't say unfair
[04:12] <soadkombucha> pondera: Jaunty Jackalope 9.04 Released April 2009 Karmic Koala 9.10 Released October 2009
[04:12] <soadkombucha> pondera: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[04:12] <sebsebseb> k-rad: right well I don't even know what you said,  am interested though, but this is off topic I guess
[04:12] <sebsebseb> k-rad: pm?
[04:13] <GNUtoo|laptop> hi, I've installed medibuntu, but only the free part,and I don't see libavcodec-52-extra
[04:13] <k-rad> no thats quite alright
[04:13] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: Okay, now follow the isntructions
[04:13] <sorcha> ok
[04:13] <soadkombucha> Have to run a script be back in a minute
[04:13] <ruari> ebhc need to know the routing table for your bsd's that are behind your ubuntu firwall
[04:13] <ebhc> rpg: I think the rules are set to forward all internal network traffic.  let me check that faq that was just posted for me. brb
[04:13] <sebsebseb> k-rad: what problem did you have?
[04:13] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: start with entering: `svn co https://qavimator.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/qavimator qavimator` (without the quotes)
[04:13] <k-rad> something stupid.  :)
[04:13] <sebsebseb> k-rad: normally people will complain about Ubuntu, if they have unsupported hardware that didn't just work, for example
[04:13] <GNUtoo|laptop> what should I do, did I do somehting wrong?
[04:13] <ruari> hate to ask but your interfaces are up on your bsd as well, ifconfig -a
[04:14] <rpgsimmaster> ruari: Yes they are, he can ssh in, remember
[04:14] <ruari> sorry missed that
[04:14] <kostkon> vaul, ah, for example, to separate your own text from the cmd you are giving to someone? for example: to list your files give "ls" in a terminal
[04:14] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: Do you get a very long list of files appearing, or do you get some statement about 'program not installed'?
[04:15] <aurilliance> anyone know how to get an egalax touchscreen to handle screen rotation?
[04:15] <sorcha> no it told me svn is not installed
[04:15] <vaul> kostkon: I am not sure if this is correct, but I do so most of the time.
[04:15] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: Okay, go 'apt-get install svn'
[04:15] <wyne> can someone help me
[04:15] <kostkon> vaul, :)
[04:15] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: Actually, scratch that
[04:15] <sebsebseb> !ask |  wyne
[04:15] <sorcha> kk
[04:15] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: Go 'apt-get install svn build-essentials'
[04:15] <wyne> i am trying to install wireless on my laptop
[04:16] <wyne> i have linux GoS
[04:16] <rpgsimmaster> ooh, this'll be fun
[04:16] <k-rad> heck, forget fedora, i'll stick with ubuntu :)
[04:16] <vaul> kostkon: But in worst case you also need to mention not to type quotes in the terminal.
[04:16] <sebsebseb> wyne: oh GOS is based on Ubuntu, so really you need their support channel
[04:16] <sin_tax> Is there a hotkey to move a window to another virtual desktop (instead of dragging halfway between two, switching, and then dragging it all the way in)?
[04:16] <sebsebseb> wyne: or forum
[04:16] <vaul> kostkon: But luckily, it seldom happens.
[04:16] <cellofellow> sin_tax: Ctrl+Alt+Left or Right
[04:16] <ebhc> ruari & rgp: Thanks! using the netstat command I saw that my default gateway was set to 192.168.0.0 instead of 192.168.0.1  I fixed it and now it works.  Thanks!
[04:16] <cellofellow> or up or down
[04:16] <wyne> my laptop is compac presario
[04:16] <rpgsimmaster> ebhc: np
[04:16] <ruari> sweet!
[04:16] <kostkon> vaul, yes, it's best to put it in a parenthesis at the end of your text, for example
[04:17] <flypiper> soadkombucha, Im installing 9.04.... I think that worked great. I can't beleive that the new distro's have such a problem with this wireless driver
[04:17] <sorcha> ok its not finding it
[04:17] <wyne> sebsebseb help
[04:17] <rpgsimmaster> !pastebin sorcah
[04:17] <sebsebseb> flypiper: Ubuntu versions you mean
[04:17] <sebsebseb> flypiper: also sometimes or a lot of the time actsaul other distros, work better for wireless than Ubuntu
[04:17] <rpgsimmaster> !pastebin | sorcha
[04:17] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: can you paste the exact output to there?
[04:18] <vaul> sin_tax: Of couse the is.
[04:18] <vaul> sin_tax: Do you have compositing effects turned on?
[04:18] <flypiper> sebsebseb, I understand that but my 14 year old daughter doesn't .. she likes Ubuntu
[04:18] <cellofellow> sin_tax: oops, it's Ctrl+Alt+Shift+DirectionKey
[04:18] <dbdii407> Where aré the wallpapers stored?
[04:18] <vaul> sin_tax: Yes, he is right.
[04:18] <sebsebseb> flypiper: as for 9.04 its a pretty great release really, shame it will go end of life at the end of October, no more security updates
[04:18] <cellofellow> dbdii407: default ones are in /usr/share/backgrounds
[04:18] <sorcha> i'm sorry i am lost
[04:19] <sin_tax> cellofellow, perfect - thanks! and thanks as well vaul
[04:19] <sharedLan> how do i enable shared video ram with my nvidia 5500? ubuntu 10.4 studio
[04:19] <sebsebseb> flypiper: well there was one end user feature that really got at me, but other then that :)
[04:19] <dbdii407> Ty
[04:19] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: Okay, you have the old "DOS" window open, yes?
[04:19] <flypiper> sebsebseb,  I understand building a CD that doesn't have the wireless working and NetworkManager shuts down the interfaces about every 20 seconds.. that's called a great Release
[04:19] <sorcha> yes
[04:19] <vaul> sebsebseb: What was so great about 9.04 that is not present at 10.04?
[04:20] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: Okay, now when you type in 'sudo apt-get install svn build-essential', what happens?
[04:20] <aurilliance> anyone know how to get an egalax touchscreen to handle screen rotation?
[04:20] <sebsebseb> vaul: thats a bit off topic, but  with 10.04 they have changed Gnome even more, in  a bad way,  just most users like those changes
[04:20] <sebsebseb> vaul: I mean changes that won't go upstream
[04:20] <flypiper> sebsebseb, That is the best advertising for our cause that you can get -(
[04:20] <sharedLan> 10.4 is solid and updated?
[04:21] <sharedLan> seb whats bad?
[04:21] <vaul> sebsebseb: And unfortunate for you I do belong to «most» users that liked the changes. Mwaha-ha-ha. :)
[04:21] <cellofellow> I'm guessing sebsebseb is complaining about Ayatana.
[04:21] <sorcha> reading was done but then i got this
[04:21] <rpgsimmaster> If there's one thing I hate, it's the new theme
[04:21] <sorcha> E: Couldn't find package svn
[04:21] <cellofellow> Ayatana rocks, better than the GNOME Shell stuff that upstream is coming up with.
[04:21] <sharedLan> some people think it uses more ram??
[04:21] <sebsebseb> rpgsimmaster: yeah I would rather have the old brown look myself :)
[04:21] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: er, whoops
[04:22] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: make that 'sudo apt-get install subversion build-essential
[04:22] <sebsebseb> shut down and log out not being in the system menu, where they should be.  no auotmatic shut down feature anymore with me menu enabled,  that kind of  stuff
[04:22] <sharedLan> lol main reason i use ubuntu is it seems to be able to run software meant for other "shells" as well
[04:23] <sorcha> ok its loading something it asked if it could i said yes
[04:23] <sebsebseb> cellofellow: Gnome Shell might be like KDE 4 to begin with, basically  not liked that much by many, but then improved and most users like it
[04:23] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: 'good, that's what you want'
[04:23] <cellofellow> sebsebseb: we'll see what happens.
[04:23] <cntrational> sebsebseb: actually, it's there in the system menu if you remove indicator applet
[04:23] <sebsebseb> cntrational: yes I know
[04:23] <vaul> sebsebseb: That's not objectively bad, changes just do not fit you taste.
[04:23] <sharedLan> ugh
[04:23] <sebsebseb> cntrational: and then the linking, of  indicatoer applet and sound menu.  and all that, as well, uh
[04:23] <flypiper> sebsebseb, Thank You.. you just explained the compile problems with the new versions
[04:24] <aurilliance> Does anyone here have an egalax touchscreen? I'm having trouble getting mine to handle rotation...
[04:24] <sebsebseb> flypiper: the compile problems?
[04:24] <cntrational> ...uh?
[04:24] <sorcha> it says config deferred now taking place
[04:24] <Saxon> Can anyone help me get DVDs to play?  I can't make them work in Totem, Kaffeine, or VLC.  I need to get DVDs to work on Ubuntu!
[04:24] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: Good; tell me when it's all done
[04:24] <vaul> !dvd
[04:24] <sharedLan> how do i tell my video card to use a swap file for mem? or system memory?
[04:24] <sorcha> it seems to be but it hasn't told me it is
[04:24] <aurilliance> sharedLan, is that even possible?
[04:24] <cellofellow> Saxon: what exactly isn't working? Have you installed libdvdcss2 from Medibuntu?
[04:24] <Saxon> I've already gone through the ubuntu websote stuff already.
[04:24] <vaul> Saxon: You meant movies when saying DVDs, did you?
[04:24] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: Are you back at a commmand prompt, where you can type in more stuff?
[04:25] <sebsebseb> vaul: in my  opinion there are quite a few bad changes in 10.04, at least for expereinced users such as myself, who have used Ubuntu either from the second release in 2005 in my case, or for some the first in 2004.   However this is off topic, so this is a good thing to end it with.
[04:25] <flypiper> sebsebseb, ERROR: not using the "bash" shell.. ERROR 2
[04:25] <sorcha> yes
[04:25] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha, okay, now we get to the actual part of installing your program
[04:25] <sebsebseb> flypiper: uh how did I explain a compile problem?
[04:25] <sebsebseb> flypiper: they haven't messed with the shell stuff yet
[04:25] <flypiper> sebsebseb, Gnome shell
[04:25] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: can you type in 'svn co https://qavimator.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/qavimator qavimator'?
[04:25] <sebsebseb> flypiper: bash is the terminal
[04:25] <juggalo4834> how do i unrar something
[04:26] <sorcha> ok
[04:26] <vaul> sebsebseb: I understand your point, but I think you just had habits theese changes broke. Okay, lets end this.
[04:26] <aldigreenhacker> test
[04:26] <ubutom_> failed
[04:26] <lostinubuntu> hi hi.. im a bit lost
[04:26] <sebsebseb> flypiper: Gnome Shell is the new look for Gnome 3, which will be released in September, was going to be April, but they are delayed
[04:26] <flypiper> sebsebseb, why do I get that error then in 10.4??   I dunno
[04:26] <sorcha> its done i have a promote after a long list of checks
[04:26] <flypiper> sebsebseb, ahhh
[04:26] <cntrational> i wonder if gnome shell'll be in maverick
[04:26] <Saxon> cello yes I've had installed
[04:26] <sorcha> promt*
[04:26] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: Okay,
[04:26] <sebsebseb> cntrational: no it won't won't be, but should be able to get it from the repo
[04:26] <cellofellow> Saxon: well, then, what doesn't work?
[04:27] <lostinubuntu> i tried looking for massive amounts of info and find nothing much.. anyone good at figureing out video issues
[04:27] <juggalo4834> how do i unrar soemthing
[04:27] <sebsebseb> cntrational: like at the moment you can get Gnome Shell for 10.04, but the version in the repo is old, well theres a ppa for a later version
[04:27] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: now follow the instructions here http://www.qavimator.org/, where it says 'and run the following commands:' under Linux(SVN)
[04:27] <juggalo4834> whats the issue
[04:27] <cntrational> sebsebseb: they're already in the re- oh
[04:27] <Saxon> cello, when I try to start the movies on DVD, sometimes the opening starts, but then it cuts off, or just nothi9ng.
[04:27] <sebsebseb> cntrational: already in the what?
[04:27] <sharedLan> yes it's possible
[04:27] <cntrational> it's already in the respositories
[04:27] <rpgsimmaster> juggalo483: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=unrar+Ubuntu
[04:27] <soadkombucha> Saxon: Did you installed the ubuntu restricted drivers package?
[04:27] <lostinubuntu> i have a ibm e-server 445 and i can install the server just fine but then if i try to install desktop the video goes whack and get infinate loop
[04:28] <aurilliance> sharedLan, is that even possible?
[04:28] <aurilliance> sorry ^
[04:28] <aurilliance> Does anyone here have an egalax touchscreen? I'm having trouble getting mine to handle rotation...
[04:28] <sharedLan> xp uses virtual memory for opengl and directx as well as the on videoboard memory
[04:28] <cellofellow> Saxon: kind of hard to diagnose that. Totem is a generally flakey DVD player. VLC always works for me, but that's works-for-me. If all else fails you can try buying the commercial DVD player from Fluendo.
[04:28] <Saxon> soad, yes all other  restricted format work
[04:28] <sharedLan> ubuntu see's it but it is not enabled
[04:28] <sebsebseb> !google | rpgsimmaster
[04:29] <sebsebseb> !rar
[04:29] <rpgsimmaster> sebsebseb: That's why i google it for him
[04:29] <rpgsimmaster> *googled :P
[04:29] <soadkombucha> 7z > rar
[04:29] <sorcha> ok on the first line i get no directory found
[04:29] <cntrational> 7zip is good
[04:30] <sorcha> then for qmake i get a couple of options with get package
[04:30] <cellofellow> tar.lzma > 7z
[04:30] <pres> Between 7z and unrar, you can cover everything.
[04:30] <rpgsimmaster> Can someone else help sorcha build qavimator, I have to go?
[04:30] <cntrational> cellofellow: >:v
[04:30] <sorcha> is this something i will hav eto go through each time i use this
[04:31] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: No, just once
[04:31] <sorcha> thank heavens for that
[04:31] <cellofellow> cntrational: what?
[04:31] <cntrational> cellofellow: nothing
[04:31] <cellofellow> 7z is windows-specific, like zip. On *nix, better to use tar.lzma, which gives you the same compression algorithm with a UNIX-native archive format.
[04:31] <sharedLan> xp can even be glitched into using onboard video at the same time as pci video..and share that ram too..using  "rivatuner"
[04:32] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: Can you get someone else to help you now - I have to disappear, unfortunately;
[04:32] <rpgsimmaster> sorry
[04:32] <sorcha> thank you for your help
[04:32] <sorcha> i will try
[04:32] <sharedLan> I want the same kinda setup in my ubuntu studio
[04:32] <pres> That's crap. 7z and zip are not MSWindows specific.
[04:32] <sorcha> does anyone know how to build qavimator?
[04:32] <cellofellow> pres: yes they are. They store Windows file attributes, not Unix permissions.
[04:33] <sebsebseb> cellofellow: 7-zip has a command line app for Linux distros
[04:33] <sebsebseb> cellofellow: the graphical 7-zip program will also work nicely in Wine
[04:33] <sebsebseb> cellofellow: and  other programs in  a Linux distro can deal with those files, native programs
[04:33] <cellofellow> p7zip is there and it works, yes, but that doesn't make it any less a Windows-specific archive format.
[04:34] <pres> sebsebseb; 7z integrates into Ubuntu's built in archiver. No need for Windows version+WINE. Or use cli, which is what I prefer.
[04:34] <lostinubuntu> i belive i have a buildt in radeon 7000/ve
[04:34] <sebsebseb> pres: and here we got cellofellow thinking its a Windows thing
[04:34] <pres> Well that's wrong.
[04:34] <sebsebseb> cellofellow: 7zip is open source, and RAR is more of a Windows thing, and RAR is horrible
[04:34] <juggalo4834> why would ubuntu give me shitty download speeds and my window system gets great speeds
[04:35] <cntrational> how does it integrate into the built in archiver? that sounds neat
[04:35] <ruari> sorcha:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=702049
[04:35] <sharedLan> usually ubu gets great and xp fails
[04:35] <cntrational> sebsebseb: at least rar is a bit better than zip
[04:35] <ruari> towards bottom
[04:35] <cellofellow> sebsebseb: both zip and 7z specifically store windows file attributes, and can't store unix file attributes like permissions. Prove me wrong.
[04:35] <sebsebseb> cntrational: not on a Linux distro
[04:35] <pres> cntrational; it just does.
[04:35] <sebsebseb> !rar
[04:35] <sharedLan> juggo try disableing ipv6
[04:35] <juggalo4834> how so?
[04:35] <cntrational> pres: how do i do this
[04:35] <kostkon> sorcha, according to this: http://yetanotherubuntublog.blogspot.com/2010/03/qavimator-on-karmic-32-64bit.html you'll need to install some packages first
[04:36] <kostkon> sorcha, thus, give the command:  sudo apt-get install subversion qt4-qmake libqt4-dev freeglut3-dev
[04:36] <sharedLan> well ping and d/l's in ubuntu my personal experiences has far exceeded and microsoft os's
[04:36] <sharedLan> any
[04:36] <sebsebseb> sharedLan: also Wget is :)
[04:36] <pres> cntrational; just install 7z and unrar from the repos and it automatically intergrates.
[04:36] <sorcha> ok gonna run that and see
[04:36] <sharedLan> but there are settings that can free things up more
[04:37] <lostinubuntu> i love ubuntu but it seems that there is no support for my new (Used) server. all because of a video driver issue
[04:37] <sharedLan> do you have pci-e juggo?
[04:37] <sebsebseb> lostinubuntu: whats the exact problem?  and which card?
[04:38] <sharedLan> name of system and maker??
[04:38] <aurilliance> Does anyone here have an egalax touchscreen? I'm having trouble getting mine to handle rotation...
[04:38] <sharedLan> model number of motherboard would help too
[04:38] <cntrational> pres: hmmm 7z doesn't appear to be in the repos
[04:38] <lostinubuntu> i have a imb e-server i can install the ubuntu server just fine but if i try to install the desktop it will cause the server to reboot forever
[04:38] <cellofellow> cntrational: it is, p7zip
[04:38] <cellofellow> !p7zip
[04:38] <lostinubuntu> it has a radeon 7000/ve
[04:39] <sharedLan> IBM?
[04:39] <sebsebseb> lostinubuntu: server edition?
[04:39] <lostinubuntu> yep ibm
[04:39] <cellofellow> !info p7zip
[04:39] <lostinubuntu> yep
[04:39] <pres> cntrational; type into terminal "sudo aptitude install p7zip-full unrar"
[04:39] <sebsebseb> lostinubuntu: well your not meant to install a GUI on the server
[04:39] <sharedLan> hmm
[04:39] <sebsebseb> lostinubuntu: and you can run servers in the desktop version as well
[04:39] <cntrational> pres: oh, i used "7z"
[04:39] <cntrational> pres: 'kay
[04:39] <sebsebseb> !server | lostinubuntu
[04:39] <pres> cntrational; yeah I thought you may have.
[04:39] <sharedLan> the console works..becuase it's not using video..but you can use it to setup the gui??
[04:39] <pres> ;-)
[04:40] <lostinubuntu> im used to running the gui in server
[04:40] <sharedLan> his issue is the video card won't run the gui
[04:40] <lostinubuntu> its how i do alot of quick things
[04:40] <lostinubuntu> exactly
[04:40] <sebsebseb> lostinubuntu: and if you do the server  LTS
[04:40] <lostinubuntu> the video card is a radeon 7000/ve
[04:40] <sebsebseb> lostinubuntu: and do desktop stuff, well the desktop stuff will run out of support, before the server stuff
[04:40] <sharedLan> this is 10.4??
[04:40] <lostinubuntu> yes 10.04
[04:41] <sebsebseb> !lts
[04:41] <sebsebseb> lostinubuntu: you got a boot up issue?
[04:41] <lostinubuntu> only if i install the desktop
[04:41] <sharedLan> have you tried other drivers for it??  what is your chipset??
[04:41] <lostinubuntu> thats what im looking for
[04:41] <lostinubuntu> no clue where to begin
[04:41] <sebsebseb> lostinubuntu: did you install a propritary driver?
[04:41] <sharedLan> sudo lshw
[04:41] <lostinubuntu> the chipset would of been for a radeon ve or radeon 7000/ve
[04:42] <lostinubuntu> no clue how to do it
[04:42] <ITSOSIMPO> hello could someone send a link with instructions to free memory after unmounting /var/lib/ureadahead/debugfs
[04:42] <sharedLan> the chipset is usually separate from the video card unless ati made that specifically for that board..
[04:42] <lostinubuntu> but also another issue comes up seems this fsck thing likes to come up and cause lock
[04:42] <sebsebseb> lostinubuntu: does the graphical boot up show ok or not?
[04:43] <lostinubuntu> well it is a buildt in video
[04:43] <sharedLan> how are you installing?
[04:43] <lostinubuntu> for the e-server 455
[04:43] <sharedLan> hmm let me google
[04:43] <lostinubuntu> the only info i got was a dropped off support on it
[04:43] <cntrational> this channel moves really quickly
[04:43] <sharedLan> that doesn't mean nobody  has answers for you
[04:44] <sharedLan> it may not have been built for linux yet??
[04:44] <lostinubuntu> right now it is running a windows server 2008 and i hate MS products
[04:44] <sharedLan> ditto
[04:44] <ruari> me too
[04:45] <lostinubuntu> and i am too noob at ubuntu to really know what im doing
[04:45] <lostinubuntu> love the server though
[04:45] <sharedLan> can you run sudo lshw and see if it report onboard video or just the chipset??
[04:46] <lostinubuntu> hmm ill have to reinstall
[04:46] <sharedLan> hehe
[04:46] <lostinubuntu> this will take a few
[04:46] <sharedLan> i'm hopeing the cd got messed up in transit to the other pc...
[04:46] <sharedLan> or the hd is messed up
[04:47] <sharedLan> cause server could run exclusively in ram xD
[04:47] <lostinubuntu> well with god's will i will have my ubuntu on a silly server
[04:48] <sharedLan> lol any pc can be a server..but this one has things that make it better suited
[04:48] <lostinubuntu> yea its got 4 2.7 ghs processors and 8 gb ram
[04:48] <lostinubuntu> not the best but its better then the 1.3 ghz pc i was using
[04:48] <sharedLan> 4 separte cpus???
[04:49] <lostinubuntu> yep
[04:49] <sharedLan> awesome
[04:49] <lostinubuntu> cant run a 64 bit os
[04:49] <lostinubuntu> but xcan run 32 bit
[04:49] <sharedLan> hey pm me so we don't flood this thing
[04:49] <lostinubuntu> it loves the server cd all untill the desktop
[04:49] <lostinubuntu> kk will do
[04:49] <sharedLan> click the name hheh
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[04:51] <NeoCicak> hi all.. i'm running windows xp guest inside my ubuntu virtualbox.... but the speed of the xp is very slow! i have a 2GHZ Intel Core 2 Duo... and the XP guest recognizes it (it says 2GHZ intel core 2 duo)... but it says 50 Mhz for the speed...
[04:52] <juggalo4834> why would flash not alow me to use hardware accleration
[04:52] <sandy> is kubuntu and ubuntu all the same program
[04:52] <sorcha> ok sorry it was taking a while to load all that
[04:53] <xangua> ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu kde; you can install the same apps
[04:53] <mercutio22> can someone please help me fix my dual monitor with compiz setup? here's xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/455754/
[04:54] <Guest4839> ok xangua so will gnome work on kubuntu
[04:54] <mercutio22> Neither thing works, compiz or RandR dual head
[04:54] <ruari> sorcha it work? looks like a cool program
[04:54] <cntrational> you can install gnome on kubuntu
[04:54] <cntrational> and gnome applications will work as well
[04:54] <xangua> Guest4839:  you can install so many desktops you want to > sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:55] <Guest4839> xangua so if i upgrade to kubuntu is there any advantages to it
[04:55] <mercutio22> I probably made a mess on xorg.conf
[04:56] <wildbat> ubuntu don't give the option to suspend/sleep(it got hibernates thou) in the shutdown menu~ what should i do to enable it? 10.04, E6600, ASUS P5B
[04:56] <sorcha> no its telling me a bunch of errors then command not found
[04:56] <cntrational> oh whoa they already released firefox 3.6.6
[04:57] <sorcha> and yes if you do any 3d av animations its a great program one i can't afford to lose unless theres something else i can use
[04:57] <hasek79> what do i need to be able to play dvd movies in my dvd rom drive on my laptop?
[04:58] <xangua> hasek79: libdvdcss2, you can get it from medibuntu
[04:58] <xangua> !medibuntu
[04:59] <dschulz> hasek79: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[05:00] <cntrational> hmmm
[05:00] <Guest4839> xangua is there a reason to upgrade to kubuntu then is it a better program?
[05:00] <cntrational> Guest4839: it's a different program
[05:00] <sorcha> i just reran it all again everythings fine til the make command
[05:00] <sorcha> then i get two errors
[05:01] <fireun> hey all, fresh 10.04 install here with a mouse that isnt working (when it should) I found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1485671&page=2
[05:01] <riz0n> When I try to log out Ubuntu, it says I have stopped jobs. How can I switch to the job and end it? Thanks
[05:01] <fireun> which says its some odd problem with ehci->uhci handoff not covering everything
[05:03] <manhunter> hi,what's that application to install that will appear at bottom or above on ubuntu desktop,like gnome-panel,that panel will contain shortcut of installed application like firefox,piding,openoffice,gedit etc. if i move the cursor on that shorcut the icon of that application will increase,the shortcut of application on that menu will rotate according to the movement of the mouse.someone tell me what's the application/menu
[05:03] <Yoques> Hi
[05:03] <cntrational> ...a dock?
[05:03] <cellofellow> manhunter: Docky
[05:03] <Yoques> I need to solve a problem with a break USB mass storage 4GB
[05:03] <Joshua_Roberts> is there a default calculator app with ubuntu?
[05:03] <cellofellow> manhunter: or Avant Window Navigator, or Cairo Dock.
[05:04] <kostkon> Joshua_Roberts, yes
[05:04] <cellofellow> Joshua_Roberts: gcalctool, in Applications -> Accessories -> Calculator.
[05:04] <Yoques> The USB appears when I put lsusb, but is impossible to mount it to can copy with ddrescue
[05:04] <manhunter> cellofellow: what's the command to install it?
[05:04] <Joshua_Roberts> I am using openbox instead of kde or gnome
[05:04] <cellofellow> manhunter: just search for them in Software Center.
[05:04] <Joshua_Roberts> so it is gcalctool  thanks
[05:05] <cntrational> manhunter: sudo apt-get install docky
[05:05] <cellofellow> manhunter: it may be docky2
[05:06] <kostkon> manhunter, or search for "dock" in the ubuntu software center. it will list a few
[05:06] <cntrational> there doesn't appear to be a docky2 in the repos
[05:06] <hasek79> what the app called that you can put animation following the cursor and where can you get it?
[05:07] <shoonya> is there any indicator patch available for exaile ?
[05:07] <cntrational> indicator patch?
[05:07] <shoonya> i mean indicator support for exaile
[05:07] <hasek79> is it an app?
[05:08] <shoonya> indicator-applet available in ubuntu 10.04
[05:08] <inert> anyone here know how to get lubuntu to load itself entirely into memory for a low-power environment?
[05:09] <cntrational> shoonya: open exaile, Edit » Preferences » Appearance » Tick "Show tray icon"
[05:09] <hasek79> how do you become the owner of the system? i tried to move a folder to the backgrounds folder and it said you are not the owner????????
[05:09] <hasek79> isnt the admin the owner?
[05:10] <XP1> i have a win98-era computer and after i try to install 10.04 (ubuntu, xubuntu, and lubuntu), the comp freezes after BIOS: the keyboard is frozen, screen is blank, hdd activity off
[05:10] <jmad980> ouch
[05:10] <XP1> the live cd can run, but after install ubuntu doesn't load
[05:11] <cntrational> "win98-era" what
[05:11] <jmad980> that means around 1997 ;)
[05:11] <XP1> P III 500Mhz
[05:11] <kostkon> cntrational, i guess that option is for the old gnome tray applet, not for the new ubuntu tray, aka indicator applet
[05:11] <ubutom_> XP1, try lubuntu
[05:11] <cntrational> XP1: o:
[05:11] <jmad980> he did ;)
[05:11] <XP1> i did
[05:12] <XP1> i also tried CD, DVD, and alternative
[05:12] <sorcha> can anyone help me figure out the errors on trying to build qavimator
[05:12] <cntrational> kostkon: eh
[05:12] <XP1> i checked the RAM and 1 stick had failed the tests, so i just took out all the others and left a 128MB
[05:13] <XP1> which was one that passed
[05:13] <ubutom_> well, 128mb ram and 500 mhz processor aint gonna be fun with a modern os
[05:13] <cntrational> sounds like a really old computer
[05:13] <Lym> Is there any way I can install the latest ubuntu using an external hard drive? I don't have any blank cds or a pendrive
[05:13] <jmad980> XP1: don't think thats enough to run ubuntu
[05:14] <cntrational> is it one of those towers with the dirty white exterior
[05:14] <jmad980> not sure if swap would let you get away with it or not
[05:14] <XP1> i still have another 128MB, 64MB sticks but i took them out because it was freezing during install
[05:14] <jmad980> might have to buy more ram, or just a new computer if you could
[05:14] <jmad980> can get some cheaper than ram prolly
[05:14] <ubutom_> XP1, win2k might run well on it...
[05:14] <jmad980> old ram is expensive
[05:14] <caleb_> or use bsd : D
[05:15] <jmad980> :p
[05:15] <cntrational> Lym: i've tried that before, i don't think you can
[05:15] <XP1> hmm
[05:15] <Lym> =[
[05:17] <odox> i have a question on ubuntu plz
[05:17] <cntrational> odox: yes
[05:17] <ubutom_> !usb > Lym
[05:17] <radikal> hey good night everybody
[05:18] <ubutom_> night
[05:18] <odox> i'm looking for a list of the most recommended hardware to run ubuntu on, any helps plz?
[05:18] <radikal>  someone can help me, i want to try sync my evo phone and cant sync whit my computer
[05:19] <ubutom_> odox, I don't think there is such a thing as most recommended hardware
[05:19] <ubutom_> odox, most pc will work, as with peripherals like printer, scanner and so on you should check first before you buy
[05:20] <actionParsnip> yo yo yo
[05:20] <ubutom_> !es actionParsnip  :D
[05:20] <ubutom_> just kidding
[05:20] <supernothing> actionParsnip: oy oy oy
[05:20] <actionParsnip> ubutom_: you forgot the pipe dude ;)
[05:21] <ubutom_> actionParsnip, yah, well, I am only a bot, please don't think I am intelligent :P :D
[05:21] <cntrational> ¡au lait!
[05:21] <odox> oh ok ubutom.....the community doesn't keep lists of hardware that ubuntu has failed to support, or another list where ubuntu users give their recommendations on what works best for them?
[05:21] <riz0n> When I try to log out Ubuntu, it says I have stopped jobs. How can I switch to the job and end it? Thanks
[05:21] <actionParsnip> !hcl | odox
[05:22] <ubutom_> odox, sure there are hardware compatibility lists, but there is no best
[05:22] <cntrational> !ubottu
[05:22] <cntrational> hmm
[05:22] <cntrational> !google
[05:23] <bazhang> cntrational, /msg ubottu please
[05:23] <odox> thank you ubutom and ubotto
[05:23] <mcl0vin> just installed 9.10 on a laptop and when it asked me to boot i did , now i get "GRUB loading. error:file not found" then furb rescue> "
[05:23] <actionParsnip> mcl0vin: i'd boot to live cd to reinstall grub
[05:23] <preecher> i kno this is probly not a qstn for here but is they a program i can get for ubuntu that will let me send and recieve faxes without having a fax machine
[05:24] <hasek79> ty the dvd player works now
[05:24] <kavelot> how do I add a shortcut to "Favorites" on this new ubuntu interface (I don't know if it's just for netbook, but that's my case)
[05:24] <mcl0vin> actionParsnip: how would i install it form liveCD
[05:24] <ubutom_> preecher, asterisk but I don't know anything about that :)
[05:24] <actionParsnip> preecher: you'll need a fax modem at least
[05:24] <actionParsnip> !grub2 | mcl0vin
[05:25] <Flannel> preecher: There are, I suggest you search the repositories for others, but if nothing else 'efax' claims to be what you're looking for
[05:26] <preecher> ubutom and actionParsnip  and Flannel thx-) -
[05:26] <actionParsnip> preecher: isnt fax fairly dead now email exists
[05:26] <preecher> actionP
[05:27] <supernothing> actionParsnip: so is snail mail, but people still use it occasionally :P
[05:27] <actionParsnip> preecher: you may be able to send fax from email clients, i know outlook can do it but i think its some magic in exchange or somesuch
[05:27] <cntrational> actionParsnip: we can't exactly talk, since we're using irc
[05:27] <preecher> actionParsnip yea i kno i was just lookin at some things and was wondering
[05:27] <actionParsnip> supernothing: oh totally
[05:27] <hasek79> is there a way to make the admin for the system also the owner?
[05:27]  * actionParsnip isnt in a fit state to advise so will only be answering easy questions 
[05:27] <cntrational> and snail mail is cool
[05:28] <actionParsnip> pidgeon post is cooler than snail mail
[05:28] <cntrational> *space* snail mail
[05:28] <ubutom_> fax is still used for canceling contracts and so on, though e-mail replaced it in many cases, yeah, but fax isn't dead
[05:28] <soadkombucha> I find it funny that the Ubuntu support channel is still IRC
[05:29] <chaz> soadkombucha: What do you think it should be?
[05:29] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: makes sense, what would you use instead?
[05:29] <supernothing> you know, just go all the way and use avian tcp: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1149.html
[05:29] <soadkombucha> chaz: Nothing else, but still. IRC is not very common anymore
[05:29] <SirMoo> We really need a cow friendly version. How many cows do you see using a computer? None. I propose someone creates Moobuntu. A cow friendly OS.
[05:29] <chaz> soadkombucha: Maybe Jabber. That's about all i'd use in it's place.
[05:29] <soadkombucha> The only times I see IRC are 1) For Linux support and 2) to promote illegal activities
[05:29] <Cathal> greetings all
[05:29] <yuan> 22
[05:29] <coz_> SirMoo,  yes we can "milk" it for all its worth
[05:30] <preecher> wat is jabber
[05:30] <cntrational> soadkombucha: you haven't seen irc enough
[05:30] <Cathal> have a Q about installing Ubuntu on an old Mas G3
[05:30] <yuan> CHINES
[05:30] <soadkombucha> cntrational: I don't hang around IRC I grew up in the AIM age
[05:30] <Cathal> MAC G3
[05:30] <chaz> preecher: A different protocol.
[05:30] <soadkombucha> cntrational: Just so happens I'm on a handful of sites that use IRC as their chatrooms
[05:30] <preecher> o ok
[05:30] <yuan> CHINES
[05:31] <ubutom_> icq is now russian owned, but that's kinda ot
[05:31] <soadkombucha> preecher: The same messaging protocol GTalk is based off of
[05:31] <SirMoo> Farmers will have better milk yield with happy cows... Happy cows that surf the web.
[05:31] <ubutom_> !cn > yuan
[05:31] <soadkombucha> preecher: XMPP
[05:31] <yuan> WO BU REN SHI YING WEN
[05:31] <yuan> WO DE XI TON SHI GANG ZHUAN DE
[05:32] <ubutom_> !cn | yuan
[05:32] <supernothing> OMG I'M yuan MY CAPS LOCK IS PERMANENTLY STUCK IN THE ON POSITION
[05:32] <xiong> I just passed 30 days uptime!
[05:32] <SirMoo> Isn't it slightly odd that Ubottu says to see the private message in English, not the native language?
[05:32] <cntrational> soadkombucha: NO WAY
[05:32] <cntrational> ER
[05:32] <cntrational> supernothing: NO WAY
[05:32] <Flannel> Please stop that.
[05:33] <cntrational> ok
[05:33] <actionParsnip> SirMoo: could let the guys in #ubuntu-ops know
[05:33] <Cathal> dang busy in here, isn't it?!
[05:33] <cntrational> Cathal: maybe!?
[05:33] <Cathal> where would I go for help installing Ubuntu on a Mac?
[05:33] <ubutom_> !ask @ Cathal
[05:34] <coz_> you know guys....being a family  channel as well as official support channel for ubuntu.... I would think you would be a bit less "chatty"
[05:34] <supernothing> cntrational: IT'S TRUE. ALL I HAVE ARE CAPITAL LETTERS MY SHIFT LOCK IS BROKEN TOO AND MY PERIOD KEY!!1ONE
[05:34] <SirMoo> About what? Native language? Or my ingenious idea to capitalize on cow related web surfing with Moobuntu?
[05:34] <ubutom_> !apple | Cathal
[05:34] <xiong> That's 30 days without a reboot and yes, I've been doing stuff; my swap is half a meg full (and I notice the kernel isn't very swappy). Take that, M$.
[05:34] <coz_> SirMoo,  well...that is more appropriate for  #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:34] <Neo31> In windows RDP does this : Port Redirection allows applications running within the terminal session to access local serial ports directly. >> any idea on how to do it in linux?
[05:34] <cntrational> Cathal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootCamp
[05:34] <ubutom_> Cathal, since it is PPC, good place to ask there I guess
[05:35] <cntrational> no wait
[05:35] <Cathal> thanks
[05:35] <cntrational> this page is useless
[05:36] <xiong> Cathal, It's always a good idea to browse heavily for background. But you're welcome to talk about Mac install here. Which kind of Mac?
[05:36] <Cathal> yeah, the Mac in question is running 9.2
[05:36] <Cathal> its an old Mac G3
[05:36] <UbuntuLily> HOw do I check for hard disk errors (Physical)?  (In Winblow it was chkdsk /f/r )
[05:36] <cntrational> is it a powerPC or inte- powerPC, then
[05:36] <xiong> Cathal, You will not get Ubuntu on that, sorry.
[05:36] <ubutom_> G3 is powerpc
[05:37] <supernothing> UbubtuLily: fsck
[05:37] <hasek79> can you watch quicktime file formats on the internet? is there a plugin for the web browsers to see them?
[05:37] <xiong> Cathal, You may want to look into one of the Yellow Dog distros. Also, OpenSUSE supports PPC.
[05:37] <yuan> BU HU YONG ZHE GE
[05:37] <Cathal> I used to work with open suse, back when it was 10.0
[05:37] <cntrational> well actually you can sorta isntall ubuntu
[05:37] <ubutom_> !cn | yuan
[05:37] <supernothing> UbuntuLily: chkdsk only checks for filesystem errors though, if i remember correctly...been awhile since i've been on the windows though
[05:37] <coz_> yuan,  are you sure you are not being silly now?
[05:37] <Flannel> yuan: This channel is english only, please join #ubuntu-cn for Chinese
[05:37] <xiong> Cathal, Not to discourage you but I did spend quite a long time trying to get Linux on a PPC machine. There's much to be said for getting new hardware. No offense.
[05:38] <actionParsnip> UbuntuLily: fsck -a /dev/partitionname    (if you use -r for chkdsk)
[05:38] <cntrational> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPC apparently there are community supported PPC releases
[05:38] <Cathal> heh, well, this is a toy for now
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> I agree with xiong -  i worked at getting linux on my imac DV  ( a 500mhz ppc) and basically  it was more trouble then it was worth.
[05:38] <UbuntuLily> kool thanx
[05:38] <UbuntuLily> how do I get part name?
[05:38] <Cathal> if I do get it up. it'll only be for formatting, or re-formatting ebooks.
[05:38] <actionParsnip> UbuntuLily: you can also use ultimate boot disk to test it with the manufacturers tools (will require CD / USB to boot from)
[05:39] <actionParsnip> UbuntuLily: sudo fdisk -l     will (L)ist the partitions
[05:39] <supernothing> UbuntuLily: System->Administration->Disk Utility will let you find hardware issues i believe as well
[05:39] <supernothing> if you need those
[05:39] <xiong> Cathal, If you're looking at it as a way to salvage old hardware, maybe yes.
[05:39] <yuan> ZHE SHI
[05:39] <xiong> I wasn't aware that there was *any* PPC Ubuntu port.
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> !java
[05:39] <soadkombucha> supernothing: chkdsk only checks for bad hardware sectors
[05:39] <soadkombucha> xiong: it exists
[05:40] <soadkombucha> supernothing: On an HDD
[05:40] <actionParsnip> xiong: sure there are ppc version
[05:40] <UbuntuLily> Well my issue is I am trying to install mythubuntu and I got an IO error.  The error said it could be the CD or the hard drive, but since I pulled this PC off a shelf its been sitting on for like a year I wanted to make sure the hard drive was okay before I go wasting disks
[05:40] <xiong> Well, I would still try OpenSUSE first.
[05:40] <gommle> synergy is lagging, and the sudo workaround isn't working. any ideas?
[05:40] <actionParsnip> xiong: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/lucid/release/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-powerpc.iso
[05:40] <soadkombucha> gommle: What's the sudo workaround?
[05:40] <soadkombucha> gommle: Did you try sudo -s??
[05:40] <gommle> simply running as superuser.
[05:40] <gommle> synergyc that is
[05:40] <soadkombucha> gommle: What exactly is synergyc?
[05:40] <supernothing> soadkombucha: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/chkdsk.mspx?mfr=true it checks the filesystem according to this
[05:41] <holocene> msg nickserv indentify xchat666
[05:41] <soadkombucha> supernothing: Yeah.
[05:41] <supernothing> you can't "correct" physical failures
[05:41] <gommle> program for sharing mouse/keyboard over network
[05:41] <soadkombucha> supernothing: You never can
[05:41] <cntrational> Cathal: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/lucid/release/ here's a powerPC port of lucid
[05:41] <ubutom_> UbuntuLily, if that I/o error is during install or before rebooting, thats a thing the livecd has on all my pc
[05:41] <soadkombucha> gommle: Did you try gksudo?
[05:41] <ly> hai
[05:41] <ubutom_> UbuntuLily, no need to worry about that
[05:42] <ly> dajiaha
[05:42] <xiong> actionParsnip, Thank you but I'm not going that way. I have one old G3 running 9.2.2 and I'm keeping it just that way, until I get all my files from it. I may keep it around for specialized graphics work.
[05:42] <soadkombucha> gommle: With QuickSynergy?
[05:42] <UbuntuLily> I dont think it finished tho
[05:42] <supernothing> soadkombucha: never is such a dirty word. it's very difficult to. and you definitely can't do it in software, unless you mean write around it. but yeah, ckdsk cleans filesystems, not checks disks for failures afaik
[05:42] <gommle> installing quicksynergy now. But I doubt it will work, as it's simply a GUI
[05:42] <UbuntuLily> it was 48 % thru, than I got the IO error than I went to get a drink and the installer was gone
[05:43] <ly> 大家好阿
[05:43] <soadkombucha> UbuntuLily: What speed did you burn the disc at
[05:43] <ly> 大家好阿
[05:43] <soadkombucha> UbuntuLily: Try to reburn the image on a disc that supports 2.4x and burn it that slow
[05:43] <Cathal> thank you cntrational, that's just what I needed. here's hoping it works. I want to completely wipe the old OS and rebuild from scratch is possible.
[05:43] <test34> Any firewall program that is similar to ZoneAlarm?
[05:43] <aurilliance> Does anyone here have an egalax touchscreen? I'm having trouble getting mine to handle rotation...
[05:43] <UbuntuLily> high- think 20x
[05:43] <ubutom_> UbuntuLily, ah, ok, that's different then, got it only in the shell before the disc unmounts after installing
[05:43] <yuan> 这个东西怎么用 b］
[05:43] <actionParsnip> !firewall | test34
[05:43] <UbuntuLily> is there a way to do an integrity check on the disk?
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> test34:  firewalls in linux work in a radically different way then they do in windows. So somthing like zone alarm is really not needed.
[05:44] <ubutom_> !cn | yuan
[05:44] <cntrational> Cathal: it's not an official port, though
[05:44] <Cathal> will, it update if I connect it?
[05:44] <cntrational> probably
[05:44] <yuan> ＃ubuntu-hk
[05:44] <Cathal> *nods*
[05:44] <Cathal> that's all I really need then
[05:45] <soadkombucha> UbuntuLily: What kind of disc?
[05:45] <yuan> 这个东西不会搞
[05:45] <soadkombucha> UbuntuLily: Ubuntu install disc?
[05:45] <Cathal> like I said, it will be primarily for formatting ebooks.
[05:45] <test34> Dr_Willis, Some are radically different, but they should clone zonealarm
[05:45] <yuan> 第一回用
[05:45] <test34> #ubuntu.jp
[05:45] <UbuntuLily> Ya - Mythbuntu to be exact
[05:45] <ly> 怎么完这个阿
[05:45] <soadkombucha> test34: They don't need to yet...Windows is much more compromised
[05:45] <actionParsnip> test34: submit the idea at: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com ;)
[05:45] <ly> 我不会完阿
[05:45] <bazhang> yuan, english here  ly you too
[05:46] <ly> 有的讲一下阿
[05:46] <soadkombucha> UbuntuLily: When you boot there should be a boot and verify option
[05:46] <ubutom_> yuan 这仅是英语频道。为了获得在中国的帮助，请键入/加入＃Ubuntu的- cn的
[05:46] <soadkombucha> UbuntuLily: But like I said, try reburning the ISO at 2.4x
[05:46] <bazhang> yuan ly #ubuntu-cn for Chinese
[05:46] <sha1sum> Hey all. I think my disc got corrupt somehow, and I don't have another burner around. I'm using the livecd for 10.04 now, and I'd like to know if there's a way I can just install from the network packages, but from the live cd?
[05:46] <UbuntuLily> Ill do that too
[05:46] <ly> 不知道
[05:46] <soadkombucha> UbuntuLily: Generally a slower burn speed results in less chance of the disc failing
[05:46] <test34> soadkombucha, i like to know when a program that isnt supposed to access the net actually tries
[05:47] <soadkombucha> UbuntuLily: For future advice, NEVER burn an ISO image at full write speed.
[05:47] <UbuntuLily> yes, normally I burn slower, i just wasn't thinkin
[05:47] <test34> actionParsnip, I'll take a look, thanks
[05:47] <ly> ti
[05:47] <gommle> sha1sum, the USB install works nicely, and you don't have to format it either. just a heads up
[05:47] <soadkombucha> UbuntuLily: Ahh alright
[05:47] <ly> 什么玩意阿
[05:47] <UbuntuLily> thanx! kiss ;)
[05:47] <sha1sum> gommle: awesome. where can I get it?
[05:47] <sin_tax> Is a single ext partition with ubuntu installed a bad way to start a dual boot (ubuntu / *dows) setup?  Or can I modify the partition and use GRUB or something to do the dual boot?
[05:47] <soadkombucha> sha1sum: Download the ISO
[05:47] <soadkombucha> sha1sum: And download unetbootin
[05:48] <soadkombucha> sha1sum: And it will write the ISO image to a bootable USB drive for you
[05:48] <gommle> sha1sum, I only used the GUI for windows, but I assume it exists for ubuntu too
[05:48] <soadkombucha> unetbootin?
[05:48] <soadkombucha> It exists cross platform
[05:48] <sha1sum> soadkombucha: can you give me the URL for the ISO for 32 bit 10.04? Firefox is one of the sectors of the disc that is corrupt so I have to use wget I guess
[05:48] <crdlb> sin_tax: you should install windows first
[05:48] <sin_tax> I was afraid of that :-(
[05:49] <cntrational> the best way is to install windows then ubuntu
[05:49] <soadkombucha> sha1sum: http://mirrors.gigenet.com/ubuntu/10.04/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso
[05:49] <the_file> I just downloaded an ati driver its a .run file, how do I install it?.
[05:49] <soadkombucha> sha1sum: Actually..
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> Unless of course you count the best way as locking up  the windows cd.. and not even installing windows at all. :)
[05:49] <crdlb> the_file: what GPU do you have?
[05:49] <sha1sum> cool thanks
[05:49] <soadkombucha> sha1sum: If you download unetbootin
[05:50] <the_file> crappy
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> the_file:  chmod +x whatever.run, then ./whatever.run
[05:50] <soadkombucha> sha1sum: It will download the ISO file for you through the gui
[05:50] <the_file> ATI Radeon Xpress 1250
[05:50] <the_file> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.12&lang=English
[05:50] <crdlb> the_file: that driver won't work, then
[05:50] <Cathal> Dr_Willis personally, id burn the winblows CD. but that's just me
[05:50] <Cathal> ;-)
[05:50] <the_file> howcome?
[05:50] <actionParsnip> the_file: mark it as executable and run it in a terminal
[05:50] <gommle> same GPU as me. the built in works perfectly.
[05:51] <crdlb> the_file: I don't think the legacy version works on recent kernel/Xorg versions
[05:51] <PiperMan> hello people
[05:51] <PiperMan> sad night tonight
[05:51] <the_file> oww
[05:51] <soadkombucha> sha1sum: apt-get install unetbootin
[05:51] <the_file> u sure?
[05:51] <the_file> cause its a linux driver
[05:51] <soadkombucha>  The ATI non-free driver works perfectly fine
[05:52] <actionParsnip> the_file: if you have an older chip the open driver will service you
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> the_file:  its always a good idea to tell us exactly what it is.
[05:52] <Raj> hi there
[05:52] <crdlb> the_file: considering it was released over a year before lucid, I'm pretty sure it won't run on 10.04 at least
[05:52] <the_file> heh
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> the_file:  with some video card drivers, you may need to Exit out of X and run them from the Console.
[05:52] <the_file> so why would ubuntu just drop support?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> the_file:  ubuntu dident.. ati did.
[05:52] <Raj> i need some help with respect to WiFI on 10.04
[05:52] <PiperMan> @Raj hello pal
[05:52] <the_file> OWW
[05:52] <soadkombucha> Raj: What wifi card?
[05:52] <actionParsnip> crdlb: it'll run, just maybe not with ful 3d goodness, vesa driver can run any chip
[05:53] <PiperMan> Raj: have i seen u here b4?
[05:53] <Raj> i dono what card it is
[05:53] <gommle> the_file, SYstem->administration->hardware drivers
[05:53] <Raj> no
[05:53] <actionParsnip> !ask | raj
[05:53] <Raj> this is my first time
[05:53] <soadkombucha> Raj: Can you find out?
[05:53] <actionParsnip> Raj: what is the output of: sudo lshw -C network | grep -i product
[05:53] <crdlb> actionParsnip: I'm talking about the legacy fglrx driver specifically
[05:53] <the_file> k
[05:53] <actionParsnip> crdlb: gotcha
[05:53] <Raj> soadkobucha: how to find out?
[05:53] <the_file> so I am in terminal how do I install the driver?
[05:53] <aurilliance> actionParsnip, Hi there!
[05:53] <actionParsnip> Raj: i told you how you can find out above
[05:53] <aurilliance> Does anyone here have an egalax touchscreen? I'm having trouble getting mine to handle rotation...
[05:54] <actionParsnip> hi aurilliance
[05:54] <mneptok> Raj: lspci
[05:54] <actionParsnip> mneptok: might be usb ;)
[05:54] <Raj> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo lshw -C network | grep -i product        product: 82573L Gigabit Ethernet Controller        product: PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection
[05:54] <Raj> that was the output
[05:54] <mneptok> actionParsnip: one thing at a time
[05:54] <actionParsnip> mneptok: lshw covers both ;)
[05:55] <SIREN> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:55] <mneptok> Raj: so what is the issue? the 3945 has been supported in the kernel for a few years.
[05:55] <actionParsnip> Raj: what is the output of: lsb_release -c    ?
[05:56] <Raj> Codename:	lucid
[05:57] <Raj> is the output of lsb_release
[05:57] <Raj> its very confusing here
[05:57] <mneptok> Raj: what is the exact symptom you are experiencing?
[05:57] <Raj> well, it says connected but when i try to browse the net
[05:58] <Raj> it is not working
[05:58] <Raj> it asks for password
[05:58] <Raj> again n again
[05:58] <aurilliance> I'm trying to get my touchscreen to work when I rotate the screen, does anyone have any pointers?
[05:58] <mneptok> Raj: pastebin the output of "ifconfig"
[05:58] <mneptok> Raj: and please keep answers on one line
[05:58] <Raj> ok
[05:59] <mneptok> Raj: and what encryption schema does the WAP use? WEP? WPA? WPA2?
[05:59] <Raj> wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:19:d2:53:07:42             inet6 addr: fe80::219:d2ff:fe53:742/64 Scope:Link           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1           RX packets:665 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0           TX packets:789 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000            RX bytes:89775 (89.7 KB)  TX bytes:127487 (127.4 KB)
[05:59] <Raj> I chose WPA and WPA2
[05:59] <soadkombucha> What torrent client would you recommend? Transmission or KTorrent
[05:59] <mneptok> Raj: well, what does the AP actually use?
[06:00] <Raj> what is AP?
[06:00] <mneptok> Raj: access point
[06:00] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: i use transmission due to my phone being able to talk beautifully with it, both are great, if you use gnome and instal ktorrent you will pull in a tonne of qt libs
[06:00] <soadkombucha> actionParsnip: I have multiple desktop managers installed
[06:00] <actionParsnip> Raj: does it connect with no security
[06:00] <soadkombucha> actionParsnip: I have the space for it. I've been using transmission.. I wanted to try out KTorrent
[06:00] <soadkombucha> I'm partial to the utorrentesque GUI
[06:01] <Raj> let me chk
[06:01] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: ok then both are good, ktorrent has a web ui too but you have to install php5-cli extra (last I used kde it was needed)
[06:01] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: go for it then dude, its free to try
[06:01] <sha1sum> soadkombucha: is there any way I can skip the USB thing and load the iso via loopback or something and do it that way?
[06:01] <soadkombucha> sha1sum: I don't know
[06:01] <soadkombucha> actionParsnip: I have kde installed
[06:01] <cntrational> soadkombucha: i like transmission
[06:02] <soadkombucha> cntrational: I'm a utorrent fanboy
[06:02] <soadkombucha> cntrational: KTorrent is closer than Transmission
[06:02] <soadkombucha> Torrenting works better on linux I get better speeds.
[06:02] <cntrational> hmmm
[06:02] <mneptok> !enter
[06:02] <cntrational> well i don't really know much about KTorrent
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> Transmission 2.0 is out in the PPA's also. :) been using that for the last few weeeks.
[06:03] <Raj> will be back.. i'm using LAN right now...
[06:03] <soadkombucha> cntrational: There is nothing wrong with transmission
[06:03] <Raj> will chk connecting to WiFI
[06:03] <soadkombucha> Transmission 2 is out?
[06:03] <cntrational> yeah, it is
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> Theres PPA's of it yes. soadkombucha
[06:03] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: PPA?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> Transmission is still a little lacking in some ways. but 2.0 has some good improbements
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> !ppa
[06:04] <face> I've been having some trouble getting my monitor to configure correctly.  Is there anyone who could help me?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/install-transmission-20-in-ubuntu.html
[06:04] <cntrational> basically a PPA is more or less a special repository for a single program
[06:05] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/transmission-20-released-new-ui-filters.html
[06:05] <usf> my external hard drive is no more detected on ubuntu 10.04 and just yesterday it was working,plz help
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> or often a single persons, or groups own  personal repo.
[06:06] <usf> my external hard drive is no more detected on ubuntu 10.04 and just yesterday it was working,plz help
[06:06] <soadkombucha> Got it thanks guys
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> usf:  step #1. try to mount it by hand - using the command line.
[06:07]  * mneptok is reminded to run an fsck on the company's backup disk downstairs
[06:07] <usf> Dr_Willis:it's not detected,how can i do it?
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> usf:  your use of the term 'detected' is vague.. how are you determining its not detected>?
[06:08] <face> Grandr doesn't give me any options other than 1024x768 or 800x600.  My screen is 1600x900.
[06:08] <face> Why is this?
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> usf:  does 'sudo fdisk -l' show it? if so - then it IS being detected by the system.. (gnome may be confused)
[06:08] <soadkombucha> usf: You can mount a hidden partition
[06:08] <usf> Dr_Willis:not in  /media
[06:08] <soadkombucha> sudo mkdir /media/disk
[06:09] <face> I've been told to edit my xorg, but that caused problems for me too, and I had to reconfigure the file.
[06:09] <actionParsnip> face: what video card?
[06:09] <face> Hold on
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> usf:  thats not showing that its not 'detected' by the system.. check fdisk -l output, and 'dmesg' output.
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> usf:  If you can determine what '/dev/sdXX' it is. then you can try to mount it by hand.
[06:09] <actionParsnip> face: lspci | grep -i vga     will tell you
[06:09] <silv3r_m00n> does cron have any other command other than crontab ?
[06:10] <actionParsnip> !cron | silv3r_m00n
[06:10] <the_file> so is there anyway to get my motherboard graphic card driver to work?
[06:10] <soadkombucha> usf: then sudo mount -t /dev/sdb (or what fdisk shows) /media/disk
[06:11] <soadkombucha> usf: then sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb (or what fdisk shows) /media/disk
[06:11] <face> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 0046 (rev 12)
[06:11] <usf> Dr_Willis:when i type lsusb it gives that is detected
[06:11] <face> That
[06:11] <face> s the output.
[06:11] <actionParsnip> face: oh, one of those. yeah you'll need an xorg.conf file dude. You'll be fighting it until you get a nice display
[06:12] <face> Okay, okay.
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> usf:  determina what /dev/sdXX it is.. and use commands like soadkombucha  posted.. but he did a typo. :)    it will be like /dev/sdb1  not /dev/sdb
[06:12] <face> Would you be kind enough to help me with that?
[06:12] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: OK sorry.
[06:12] <paranoidphreak> hi everybody, i have a 16gig flash drive and i have ubuntu 10.04 installed on it (8gigs) and swap (2gigs) allocated towards linux and the remaining free space, i'm planning on allocating toward data, (fat format). i'm planning on using public computers to access this partition. should i be worried about this because i may catch a virus or something that corrupts my OS or is it wise to get a new flash drive for storing data?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> soadkombucha:  ive seen cases where you do uise /dev/sdb :) but proberly not in this case.
[06:13] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: The only reason I remember that command is because I needed it to manually downgrade to patch the firmware on my archos
[06:13] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: And my archos used /dev/sdb
[06:13] <the_file> were can I install compiz fusion?.
[06:13] <the_file> software center?
[06:13] <soadkombucha> the_file: Ubuntu Software Center
[06:13] <the_file> I can't find it there
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> soadkombucha:  yep. Some times you can do it that way.
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> soadkombucha:  also optical disks are often /dev/sdb or sdc. but thats getting more uncomon these days also.
[06:14] <hanasaki> what's a good admin tool and modeling and does table diff etc for mysql, postgresql and oracle?
[06:14] <hanasaki> free
[06:14] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: Well I even modified the command I posted, because I had to use -o
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> !mount
[06:15] <face> actionParsnip, I followed the instructions here (http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/7168/vga-output-to-a-169-tv/), and when I rebooted the computer I got, "ubuntu is running in low graphics mode."
[06:15] <the_file> were can I donwload compiz fusion?.
[06:15] <aurilliance> I'm trying to get my touchscreen to work when I rotate the screen, does anyone have any pointers?
[06:15] <actionParsnip> the_file: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[06:15] <actionParsnip> face: yeah you'll have to jig the file
[06:15] <face> "Jig"?
[06:15] <actionParsnip> face: tweak, modify
[06:16] <soadkombucha> the_file: sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager
[06:16] <face> Oh, I see.
[06:16] <hanasaki> face:  what are you trying to do
[06:16] <actionParsnip> face: its derrived from jiggle
[06:16] <face> I figured.
[06:16] <actionParsnip> face: try adding refresh rates to the monitor section in xorg.conf too, this can help
[06:16] <face> I just didn't want to make assumptions with computer - possibly -terms.
[06:16] <face> Um, hold on a second.
[06:17] <soadkombucha> usf: Any luck?
[06:17] <usf> nothing yet
[06:18] <face> Hanasaki, I'm trying to adjust screen resolution,
[06:18] <soadkombucha> I need to download a real IRC client
[06:18] <usf> soadkombucha:the both of them didn't work
[06:18] <face> Is there a specific way to add a screen resolution in xorg, actionParsnip?
[06:18] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: irssi
[06:18] <Raj> WiFi problems
[06:18] <soadkombucha> usf: Hrm
[06:18] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: I would rather a GUI
[06:19] <actionParsnip> face: yes they are defined in the screen section
[06:19] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: xchat
[06:19] <usf>  sudo mount -t /dev/sdb  /media/disk gives the manual of mount
[06:19] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: i use pidgin personally
[06:19] <face> The screen section
[06:19] <soadkombucha> actionParsnip: I've used pidgin's IRC
[06:19] <face> Section "Screen"
[06:19] <face> 	Identifier	"Default Screen"
[06:19] <face> 	Monitor		"Configured Monitor"
[06:19] <face> 	Device		"Configured Video Device"
[06:19] <face> EndSection
[06:19] <FloodBot2> face: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:19] <soadkombucha> actionParsnip: Not the biggest fan.
[06:20] <actionParsnip> !irc | soadkombucha
[06:20] <face> Do I add a new variable?
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> usf:  you dont weant /dev/sdb you proberly want /dev/sdb1
[06:20] <usf> and sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb /media/disk gives me no medium found
[06:20] <usf> in /dev i have only /sdb
[06:20] <Raj> mneptok: r u there?
[06:20] <greezmunkey> face: you can step through your screen resolutions by holding down ctrl+atl and then hitting (+) plus or (-) minus
[06:20] <face> No, sorry.
[06:20] <actionParsnip> face: thats why then, find some example xorg.conf files and see how resolutio is defined
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> usf:  that is weird then.  what does 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb' show then?
[06:20] <face> I see
[06:20] <aurilliance> Does anyone here have a touchscreen?
[06:20] <face> Will do, actionParsnip
[06:21] <face> And greezmunkey, it's not offering my specific resolution.
[06:21] <sharedLan> ugh that was a doozey
[06:21] <face> by "it" I mean grandr
[06:21] <greezmunkey> face: rodger that, just fyi
[06:21] <the_file> off fuck how do I get the pannels back?.
[06:22] <soadkombucha> Ahh a real IRC client so much better
[06:22] <usf> Dr_Willis:sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb gives nothing
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanels | the_file
[06:22] <cntrational> soadkombucha: irssi is nice
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> usf:  thats even stranger.  how about the tail end of 'dmesg' does it mention the usb devices at all?
[06:22] <soadkombucha> cntrational: irssi is nice but I didn't want to be in terminal
 then what are you using
[06:22] <soadkombucha> cntrational, XChat
[06:22] <cntrational> oh
[06:22] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: i used to use it in guake
[06:22] <mercutio22> I think I have some configuration problem... audio playback does not work only for my user apparently
[06:23] <soadkombucha> actionParsnip: haha nice
[06:23] <ConfusedLinux_> hey
[06:23] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: screen irssi ?
[06:23] <soadkombucha> hey ConfusedLinux_
[06:23] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: Hmm?
[06:23] <soadkombucha> Why does XChat default to , on a tab
[06:23] <ConfusedLinux_> can someone help me dual boot W7 and Kubuntu using Wubi
[06:23] <ConfusedLinux_> im new to linux
[06:23] <ConfusedLinux_> and wubi gives an error
[06:23] <ruari> waz the error?
[06:23] <paranoidphreak> hi everybody, i have a 16gig flash drive and i have ubuntu 10.04 installed on it (8gigs) and swap (2gigs) allocated towards linux and the remaining free space, i'm planning on allocating toward data, (fat format). i'm planning on using public computers to access this partition. should i be worried about this because i may catch a virus or something that corrupts my OS or is it wise to get a new flash drive for storing data?
[06:23] <sharedLan> ugggh
[06:24] <soadkombucha> ConfusedLinux_: You're probably going to want to try and run it with the option acpi=off.
[06:24] <ConfusedLinux_> lemme get the error
[06:24] <Raj> hi there
[06:24] <ConfusedLinux_> soad how do i do that
[06:24] <actionParsnip> !virus | paranoidphreak
[06:24] <Raj> my wifi is not working properly... it keeps on asking for password.. i'm using 10.04 using live cd
[06:24] <soadkombucha> ConfusedLinux_: I'm not very familiar with Wubi
[06:24] <sharedLan> paranoid...no you should be protected mildly
[06:24] <ConfusedLinux_> eh
[06:24] <slacker-> Hi guys, I've just upgraded from jaunty to lucid. All seems to work ok except the screen doesn't show anything any more. I'm thinking maybe a framebuffer thing, beacuse I had framebuffer set up previously but now I cannot find the right file where it is configured. Any suggestions?
[06:24] <ConfusedLinux_> ill type out the error
[06:24] <usf> in /dev i have only /sdb
[06:24] <actionParsnip> slacker-: did you stop at karmic?
[06:25] <soadkombucha> usf: You could try to mount that
[06:25] <greezmunkey> paranoidphreak: if you are booting into your flash drive, then all that will be there is your OS...
[06:25] <usf> Dr_Willis: dmesg|grep sdb* gives[  186.712164] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[06:25] <soadkombucha> usf: try sudo mount -t ntfs o=0 /dev/sdb /media/disk
[06:25] <slacker-> actionParsnip: I don't konw if it worked for karmic because it did the upgrade remotely
[06:25] <sharedLan> anti-virus on a ssd usb stick would be extreamly slow
[06:25] <ConfusedLinux_> by the way, im trying to install Kubuntu Netbook for dual boot with windows 7
[06:25] <actionParsnip> slacker-: no, when you upgraded from jaunty to lucid, did you upgrade to karmic first?
[06:25] <paranoidphreak> greezmunkey: i'm planning on using windows machine to access the data (fat) partition
[06:26] <slacker-> actionParsnip: I also replaced grub1 with grub2 afterwards but that didn't seem to change anything
[06:26] <soadkombucha> usf: Try that
[06:26] <Raj> need help
[06:26] <ConfusedLinux_> ok soad
[06:26] <ConfusedLinux_> heres the error
[06:26] <slacker-> actionParsnip: yes I did. using do-release-upgrade each time
[06:26] <soadkombucha> usf: try sudo mount -t ntfs -o offset=0 /dev/sdb /media/disk
[06:26] <actionParsnip> slacker-: ok just checking
[06:26] <greezmunkey> paranoidphreak: well then, the usual precautions apply
[06:26] <soadkombucha> usf: It'll try to mount it with the partition as the first cylinder of the drive
[06:26] <actionParsnip> slacker-: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[06:27] <slacker-> actionParsnip: from the syslog I see that it's loading vga16fb
[06:27] <ConfusedLinux_> An error occured: Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO. For more information, please see the log file : c:\blablablabla
[06:27] <evodragun> Hi everyone
[06:27] <soadkombucha> ConfusedLinux_: You can't even get it installed?
[06:27] <soadkombucha> ConfusedLinux_: I have no idea.
[06:27] <slacker-> ah..
[06:27] <soadkombucha> Hey evodragun
[06:27] <sharedLan> is there  a fi for ati 70000ve on-board--boot issues loop...hd scans...repeats or crashes..
[06:27] <evodragun> Someone knows in spanish chanel
[06:27] <sharedLan> fix^^
[06:27] <ConfusedLinux_> yeah soad
[06:27] <slacker-> actionParsnip: thanks, I'll check that site in a sec once I moved to a machine that has X on it ;)
[06:27] <evodragun> Hi Soadkombucha
[06:28] <ConfusedLinux_> can anyone help me with Wubi here?
[06:28] <paranoidphreak> actionParsnip: oh, i know that you dont need an antivirus in linux but i'm planning on sometimes accessing using public machines that have windows installed on it
[06:28] <ruari> doesn't look like it is supported yet on windows 7,
[06:28] <usf> soadkombucha:the command gives :/dev/sdb: No medium found
[06:28] <soadkombucha> evodragun: Spanish channel is ubuntu-es if that's what you're looking for. But what's up?
[06:28] <ConfusedLinux_> gr
[06:28] <soadkombucha> ruari: I got wubi installed on win7
[06:28] <evodragun> I newby
[06:28] <sharedLan> ^^
[06:28] <soadkombucha> ruari: But I couldn't run it because it uses the windows boot loader and my hardware won't load it unless it's noacpi
[06:28] <ruari> why not use vmplayer or virtual box?
[06:28] <sharedLan> sevearl people have installed from win7?
[06:28] <evodragun> I need a lot of help
[06:29] <ruari> aw
[06:29] <soadkombucha> evodragun: Such as?
[06:29] <usf> soadkombucha:it's a external hard drive with usb connecter
[06:29] <Raj> hi there. i'm using Ubuntu 10.04 live cd and connected via Wired network.. my wireless is not getting connected properly. Please help me out
[06:29] <soadkombucha> ruari: I have a working Ubuntu 10.04  2.6.32-22-generic
[06:29] <evodragun> I own of samsung N130 netbook
[06:29] <usf> soadkombucha:it's sata
[06:29] <usf> soadkombucha:it's not sata
[06:29] <paranoidphreak> greezmunkey: so, i can lose everything from the flash drive if the virus attacks the flash drive?
[06:29] <evodragun> I have lucid
[06:29] <sharedLan> raj configure the wifi manually?
[06:29] <soadkombucha> usf: It's IDE? Could that be the problem?
[06:29] <xiaozhang> ubuntu中文频道是哪个？？
[06:29] <greezmunkey> paranoidphreak: um, is you ubuntu on the fat partition?
[06:29] <sharedLan> paranoid? not if you remove it
[06:29] <evodragun> But I can comunicate with msn on webcam
[06:30] <usf> soadkombucha:how can i know this??
[06:30] <soadkombucha> usf: If it's not SATA it's probably IDE
[06:30] <ruari> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy1ISEJIv84   wubi windows 7
[06:30] <paranoidphreak> greezmunkey: no, it's on ext3
[06:30] <soadkombucha> evodragun: I don't know if you can
[06:30] <ConfusedLinux_> i installed Ubuntu 10.04 the other day to run the game Starcraft , and whenever I play it for about 3-6 minutes, it either says that the game isnt installed or just quits me to the ubuntu login screen
[06:30] <evodragun> With any program??
[06:30] <paranoidphreak> greezmunkey: i'm using fat just to store data
[06:30] <usf> soadkombucha:okey yesterday it works perfectly
[06:30] <greezmunkey> paranoidphreak: exactly, I would think any virus activity on the fat partition would only affect that partition.
[06:31] <hanasaki> what is a good mountaable shared filesystem? with ACL and encryption over the network?
[06:31] <Raj> sharedLan: i need some guidance to configure WiFI
[06:31] <soadkombucha> evodragun: Maybe aMSN
[06:31] <sharedLan> a virus can infect any media installed unless it's read only
[06:31] <usf> soadkombucha:i have this problem only with lucid,
[06:31] <sharedLan> kk
[06:31] <evodragun> Nop dont work
[06:31] <sharedLan> my mouse is messed up so i'm kinda slow getting to pm's
[06:31] <evodragun> I try de Emense but nothing
[06:32] <ConfusedLinux_> Is there an easy way to dual boot Windows 7 and Linux Mint 9 or Windows 7 and Kubuntu 10.04?
[06:32] <paranoidphreak> actionParsnip, greezmunkey: thanks for the info
[06:32] <soadkombucha> ConfusedLinux_: Installing Windows first and then installing Linux
[06:32] <evodragun> I read alot about Empathy an say soppurt webcam but nothing
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux_:  if you have 2 hard drives.. that makes it very very easy.
[06:32] <greezmunkey> sharedLan: it would have to be a darned smart virus to cross over from fat to ext3...especially if the ext3 isn't even mounted...
[06:32] <soadkombucha> evodragun: Hmm. Try installing Cheese, see if your webcam is recognized
[06:32] <evodragun> I tested an is okay
[06:32] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: screen irssi >> http://imagebin.org/102986
[06:32] <actionParsnip> !wine | ConfusedLinux_
[06:32] <soadkombucha> evodragun: That's odd
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux_:  with 1 hd. you may want to resize the windows partition from within windows. leave part of the HD unallocated. and let the ubuntu installer install to that unalocated space.
[06:33] <evodragun> Odd???
[06:33] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: How would I do that
[06:33] <Raj> hi there. i'm using Ubuntu 10.04 live cd and connected via Wired network.. my wireless is not getting connected properly. Please help me out using private message
[06:33] <ConfusedLinux_> dr_willis: i tried wine, starcraft still boots me out
[06:33] <actionParsnip> wise_crypt: you can get rid of the guake icon in the tray you know
[06:33] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: People really install windows to just one partition on a hard drive?
[06:33] <actionParsnip> ConfusedLinux_: try adding the wine ppa then upgrading
[06:33] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: ya still need it lol
[06:34] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: I have irssi
[06:34] <aurilliance> Does anyone here have a touchscreen?
[06:34] <ConfusedLinux_> actionParsnip: whats wine ppa? im new to linux if you cant tell
[06:34] <greezmunkey> paranoidphreak: if you are that worried, keep your ubuntu ssd in your pocket when using public pcs, get another one for transferring files. They're pretty cheap these days.
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> soadkombucha:  someone posted the drive layout on their new win7 boxx in here the other day.. windows 7 + the hp recovery partition took up all 4 primary partitions.. that was a total mess.
[06:34] <actionParsnip> ConfusedLinux_: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:34] <Adem> how do i modify my font config file?
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> soadkombucha:  win7 likes to use 2 primary partitions  these days one for some sort of /boot/ feature. (ive never used it)
[06:35] <actionParsnip> ConfusedLinux_: you may be new to linux but not new to websearching, instead of asking, take direction and run with it instead of asking. you'll learn more and faster
[06:35] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: It allocates 100MB for the boot sector files
[06:35] <greezmunkey> Dr_Willis: I remember watching you work through that with him, it was pretty sticky.
[06:35] <ConfusedLinux_> actionParsnip: i did, ive been trying to find answers on google for at least a week. nothing
[06:35] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: I have that 100MB because Ubuntu is easier to dualboot if you install windows first
[06:35] <b14ck> How can I remove a group from a user? I accidentally assigned one of my users to the group 'www-data', and I'd like to remove that group from the user. I'm using server edition, so I need the command line argument, not the GUI tool.
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> greezmunkey:  i dont know if he ever got it going or not. I love how PC makers take up a huge part of your HD so they dont have to include optical-recovery media.. THEN charge you extra for the  disks.
[06:36] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi
[06:36] <greezmunkey> Dr_Willis: exactly!
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> soadkombucha:  i keep the oss on their own hd's that makes it even easier. :)
[06:36] <aurilliance> I have 3 disks on my pc that I am installing ubuntu on. How should I format them
[06:36] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: My laptop only has one drive
[06:36] <actionParsnip> ConfusedLinux_: try a different search engine if google fails you
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  depends On your needs.
[06:37] <aurilliance> Dr_Willis, I want to install ubuntu on the largest one, and then use the other two simply for storage
[06:37] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: And I think I'm going to resize my extended data partition and install Chromium OS just to try it out. Or attempt to get Hackintosh running
[06:37] <greezmunkey> later...
[06:37] <abc11> hao
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> soadkombucha:  next laptop i get - im buying a 2nd hd just for it to keep the 'windows' system on. and keep it on a shelf. :) and use linux on its own hd.
[06:37] <ConfusedLinux_> actionParsnip: although i highly doubt i will find an answer, ill go check again.
[06:37] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: I don't mind dual booting, it's not a huge deal to me.
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> soadkombucha: it is possible to use grub2 to boot ISO files. Thats a handy way to test out different disrtos.
[06:38] <aurilliance> Dr_Willis, My real q is: should I use ext4 for all of them? And what is the difference between Logical / Primary?
[06:38] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: Especially seeing as the laptop was bought for me as a present and my parents think if I install anything other than Windows to it it will die
[06:38] <actionParsnip> ConfusedLinux_: i gave you the full and exact command you neede
[06:38] <evodragun> Soadkombucha: Thaks for everything
[06:38] <aurilliance> Dr_Willis, Can grub2 do that? (boot iso's)?
[06:38] <Doonz> hey does anyone know of a webpage template that acts like googles picasa?
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  when in doubt ext4. You can have 4 primary partitions MAX per hard drive.. ONE of those Primaries can be a extended, that holds logicals.
[06:38] <ruari> b14ck: sudo deluser username  groupname
[06:38] <actionParsnip> [06:34] <actionParsnip> ConfusedLinux_: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:38] <evodragun> I have more questions but I see you to busy LOL
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  so if you just need 1 partition per hd. use primarys.
[06:38] <b14ck> ruari, thanks so much :)
[06:38] <soadkombucha> And you can have up to 60 logicals?
[06:38] <ConfusedLinux_> actionParsnip: is there any chance that will mess anything up? what does it even do?
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  if you need 4 or less partitions per hd.. use primaries..
[06:38] <evodragun> See you in other time and thanks again
[06:39] <ruari> np
[06:39] <soadkombucha> evodragun: We can answer.
[06:39] <soadkombucha> evodragun: We may look busy, but people just help people whenever, it's not that we're really ignoring anybody.
[06:39] <slacker-> actionParsnip: ok the nomodeset option fixed the console, now how do I get my framebuffer back? I put GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768 in /etc/default/grub, will that do it?
[06:39] <soadkombucha> evodragun: And it's not a problem.
[06:39] <actionParsnip> ConfusedLinux_: it adds the wine development ppa which is a 3rd party repository (non-canonical) and then upgrades, the version on the wine ppa is later than the canonical version so you will download the later version of wine
[06:39] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: I don't know how to use GRUB2 to boot an ISO
[06:40] <Raj> quit
[06:40] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: Plus Chromium OS isn't live
[06:40] <usf> now my usb flash it's not mounted,i think that every thing is mounted only the first time and after that nothing works
[06:40] <Adem> how do i modify my font config file?
[06:40] <ConfusedLinux_> actionParsnip: okay, I will go re-wubi Ubuntu Netbook and try again. Will you be on here for much longer?
[06:40] <aurilliance> Dr_Willis, one more thing, where should I set my 2 storage drives to mount? /dev/something???
[06:40] <actionParsnip> slacker-: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1483882
[06:40] <evodragun> Soadkombucha: I understand and was a joke
[06:40] <soadkombucha> evodragun: Haha alright
[06:40] <Adem> whats the commandline to install new fonts?
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  you DONT mount to /dev/ thats where devices show up
[06:41] <evodragun> Soadkombucha: Thanks
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  /media/stuff
[06:41] <actionParsnip> ConfusedLinux_: i'm outt ahere in 50 mins, then back on in 10 after that til about an hour later, then bed cos i'm knackered
[06:41] <aurilliance> Dr_Willis, thanks
[06:41] <soadkombucha> evodragun: Anytime. I'll try to help if I can, sorry I couldn't be more assistance.
[06:41] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: Or /media/Data1 and /media/Data2
[06:41] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: Or he could do /media/DATA and /media/data
[06:42] <ConfusedLinux_> actionParsnip: okay, ill try to do this fast
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> soadkombucha:  yes.. but NOT anything in /dev/  :)
[06:42] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: Haha of course not
[06:42] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: I do have to say I like that Linux is case-sensitive...Although it causes problems in Windows sometimes
[06:42] <ConfusedLinux_> wait soadkombucha what
[06:42] <ConfusedLinux_> it causes windows problems?
[06:42] <slacker-> actionParsnip: I don't have nvidia btw. it's an onboard intel
[06:42] <evodragun> Soadkombucha: Only one last question
[06:43] <Joker> Can someone help me with my microphone issue? I'm running Ubuntu NR 10.04 and none of my programs will recognize my built-in microphone.
[06:43] <soadkombucha> ConfusedLinux_: If you had two folders on an NTFS drive that you were using in Ubuntu
[06:43] <slacker-> actionParsnip: will follow anyway and maybe do some searching myself ;)
[06:43] <soadkombucha> ConfusedLinux_: And one was /DATA and the other was /data
[06:43] <aurilliance> Dr_Willis, one more thing :P (thanks for all the help btw) it's asking me to choose a swap partition as well, where would be the best place for that?
[06:43] <evodragun> Soadkombucha: In Windows I use software like Ccleaner o Vopt to clean and defrag my unit
[06:43] <ConfusedLinux_> soadkombucha: well considering i have no idea what that means, and I just used wubi, i think ill be alright
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux_:  it can also be an issue with Samba shares. if you have 'DataDir' and 'datadir' on the same share.. windows can get confused and not see one.
[06:43] <soadkombucha> ConfusedLinux_: Ubuntu is case sensitive, recognizes them as different folders. Windows thinks DATA and data are the same thing
[06:43] <evodragun> Soadkombucha: In Ubuntu exist something like that??
[06:44] <soadkombucha> evodragun: There are defraggers
[06:44] <Joker> Any help with my problem? :)
[06:44] <ConfusedLinux_> so should i get a different distro than ubuntu?
[06:44] <soadkombucha> evodragun: There is no registry cleaner. Ubuntu manages cleanup pretty well on its own.
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  i alwyas  make a 512mb swap on every hd. but in your case. You proberly want to put it on the HD that will get used the least. and the fastest.. but you may never even need swap. so it may not matter much
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux_:  its a free world.. get what you want.
[06:44] <evodragun> Soadkombucha: Can you recomend one drefragger?
[06:44] <soadkombucha> evodragun: I've never defragged on linux hold on
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux_:  it all depends on your 'needs'
[06:45] <Adem> whats the commandline to install new fonts?
[06:45] <soadkombucha> evodragun:I mean you don't really have to
[06:45] <evodragun> Soadkombucha: Okas
[06:45] <soadkombucha> evodragun: Linux just.. It's a lot more organized and doesn't do the crazy things windows does
[06:45] <ConfusedLinux_> dr_willis: the only reason I have linux is for running Starcraft because Windows 7 freezes when you play it, so other than that i'll stick to Windows simplicity
[06:45] <wise_crypt> !font | Adem
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> Adem:  where are you getting these fonts from? I just copy .ttf files to my .fonts dir
[06:45] <Evil_> Do I have to use openjdk in 10.04?
[06:46] <soadkombucha> Evil_: You can get the JRE
[06:46] <soadkombucha> Evil_: It comes with the restricted extras
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux_:  so you cant 'fix' windows.. so you want to play windows games in linux.. :)     Check the wine app database on that game and see if theres any known wine issues with it.
[06:46] <Adem> where can i download monospace font
[06:46] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: Actually, Starcraft 2 beta works better under Wine than it does natively under windows
[06:47] <evodragun> Soadkombucha: I see ubuntu use only the procesor and to much memory
[06:47] <Evil_> soadkombucha, I had openjdk installed and tried installing limewire but it's complaining about not having sun-java6-jdk
[06:47] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: It doesn't freeze on online play under Wine, but it does under Windows
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> Adem:  theres several fonts in the package manager repos.  There were some mono fonts also installed by default
[06:47] <soadkombucha> Evil_: Install the Ubuntu Restricted Extras Package. Or enable the canonical repository and search for it
[06:47] <chinmaya__> does any one know how to control the default zoom in a gnome window
[06:47] <evodragun> Soadkombucha: How I can optimaze my ubuntu to make faster
[06:47] <hyde> how to boot into x windows with Ubuntu 10.04 server?
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> Adem:  and theres the MS fonts package for some of the MS fonts if you want those.
[06:47] <soadkombucha> evodragun: Trust me you don't have to it will be fast enough on its own
[06:47] <lost> i need to know what does it mean http://paste.ubuntu.com/455777/
[06:48] <actionParsnip> ConfusedLinux_: there are native games too, and some commercial games have native windows installers like doom3 and return to castle wolfenstein
[06:48] <wise_crypt> Adem: copying form your windows font directory might do the work
[06:48] <soadkombucha> evodragun: You'll see what I mean. It boots a lot faster.
[06:48] <evodragun> Soadkombucha: I dont understand
[06:48] <soadkombucha> evodragun: You're accustomed to Windows I assume?
[06:48] <chinmaya__> does any one know how to control the default zoom in a gnome window
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> chinmaya__:  what default zoom are you talking about?
[06:49] <soadkombucha> evodragun: Linux is completely different. The file structure is completely different, the way it manages files is different, and the speed at which it boots is much faster.
[06:49] <actionParsnip> chinmaya__: are you using compiz?
[06:49] <ConfusedLinux_> actionParsnip: I'm not looking for anything new
[06:49] <ConfusedLinux_> dr_willis: nobody has the same problem on WineHQ
[06:49] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: depends on config of both, but generally linux boots faster
[06:49] <chinmaya__> actionParsnip, yes. But I mean the zoom property of the window which shows files. I mean in nautilus
[06:49] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: if boot times excite you, look into xpud ;)
[06:50] <Joker> Can someone help me with my microphone issue? I'm running Ubuntu NR 10.04 and none of my programs will recognize my built-in microphone.
[06:50] <soadkombucha> actionParsnip: I'm talking generally
[06:50] <soadkombucha> actionParsnip: I'm happy with the fact that linux takes about a minute to load.
[06:51] <profxavier> when connecting to an Ubuntu machine, via samba, how do you surf to a folder, when the machine is Windows 7. I am trying to go to \\ip.address, but im being prompted for a user/password
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> a whole 60sec? thats too slow!
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:51] <chinmaya__> actionParsnip,  While opening one of my folders its getting opened in 66 % rather than 100%
[06:51] <ConfusedLinux_> why must linux be so confusing!
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:  i always give my linux users a samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME'
[06:51] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: It's less than 60
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux_:  its not.. windows is confuseing.
[06:52] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: But 1 minute is better than Windows
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux_:  and using games in wine. is always a bit of a gamble.
[06:52] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: I think my boot time is somewhere around 30-40 seconds max
[06:52] <profxavier> Dr_Willis, then how do you access the shared drive/folder ?
[06:52] <ConfusedLinux_> dr_willis: windows is really simple. you dont need to use terminal or anything like that
[06:52] <soadkombucha> I use command.com in windows all the time
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:  i enter my linux users name/samba password.
[06:52] <ConfusedLinux_> dr_willis: it doesnt take three years to connect to wireless on windows
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux_:  but... you were unable to actually FIX your problem in windows.. so that sort of points that its not simple.
[06:53] <chinmaya__> ConfusedLinux_, Its not dude.. Its just lack of touch with it
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux_:  computers are 'simple' when they work.. when somthing breaks.. well thats when you get into the issues.
[06:53] <mneptok> let's stop the offtopic "Linux vs. Windows" stuff, please
[06:53] <ConfusedLinux_> dr_willis: i cant "fix" the problem in ubuntu either
[06:53]  * wise_crypt hope that everybody wont feed the troll
[06:53] <Colonel_Panic> hello all
[06:54] <soadkombucha> ConfusedLinux_: Linux isn't terrible, it's just a matter of having a little bit of google-fu
[06:54] <soadkombucha> Hey Colonel_Panic
[06:54]  * Dr_Willis finally got Lord Of the Rings Online working in Wine. :)
[06:54] <Colonel_Panic> I'm running Ubuntu on a Dell Mini 9
[06:54] <soadkombucha> I have to look into Wine configuration
[06:54] <ConfusedLinux_> soadkombucha: I don't want to spend seven years of my life on google figuring out commands to run stuff because it wont run with icons
[06:54] <chinmaya__> Does anyone know how to control the default zoom property for nautilus. For one of my folders it has got reset to  66% rather than 100%
[06:54] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: if you reduce startup services it can be a lot faster, lik if the system doesnt have bluetooth, turn off bluetooth. or disable cups at startup if it doesn't have or use a printer
[06:54] <Colonel_Panic> this machine uses a Broadcom chipset with the iw-broadcom driver
[06:55] <aurilliance> I'm installing ubuntu and wondering: If I select the option to "use my password to log in *and* decrypt my home folder" will that be much of a performance loss?
[06:55] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: that sort of thing
[06:55] <mneptok> chinmaya__: "View" menu in Nautilus
[06:55] <ConfusedLinux_> dr_willis: also, about a day after getting W7 and ubuntu dual booted, I started getting weird errors about ChkDsk or something each time I booted up
[06:55] <wise_crypt> please if you really want to play games with wine use http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks or have more money use codega or crossover instead :)
[06:55] <Colonel_Panic> I mean wl-broadcom
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  i imagine there will be a slight loss. but ive not heard of anyone complainng about it. But if you ever need to access your HOME from a live cd. Your files will all be encrypted. and i ahve had seen people ask how to Unencrypt them.
[06:56] <chinmaya__> mneptok, it just sets temporarily... but when i open the next time its just standing at 66% only!!
[06:56] <ConfusedLinux_> wine and playonlinux both fail at installing
[06:56] <profxavier> Dr_Willis: before that, how do you access the shared resource, what syntax do you use?
[06:56] <nope> cedega works very nice
[06:56] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: Or just get smart and pirate it
[06:56] <ConfusedLinux_> but costs money
[06:56] <nope> well worth the donation
[06:56] <aurilliance> Dr_Willis, good point.
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux_:  i dont use Win7 and i basically dont game on windows any more either. So cant help.
[06:56] <Colonel_Panic> anyway, the ESSID and other info about connected wifi APs doesn't show up in iwconfig
[06:56] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: no pirated stuff talk here ;p
[06:56] <the_file> how can I change the menu icon ?
[06:56] <the_file> how can I change the menu icon ?
[06:56] <soadkombucha> There's one game I refuse to run on anything but windows purelityy out of system intens
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> Colonel_Panic:  there is a wine support channel. and newer versions of wine come out every week or so.
[06:56] <actionParsnip> !legal | soadkombucha
[06:57] <the_file> I know I can do this in 9.10 bu not the new one
[06:57] <actionParsnip> !illegal
[06:57] <Colonel_Panic> wine?
[06:57] <Colonel_Panic> I'm not asking about wine
[06:57] <ConfusedLinux_> dr_willis: alright, ill go get ubuntu back for now. whats an IRC program I can use once i get there?
[06:57] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: I will NEVER run Dragon Age Origins under wine
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> Colonel_Panic:  nick completion :)
[06:57] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: play on linux is free, I believe you are thinking of cedega or crossover office
[06:57] <chinmaya__> mneptok, it just sets temporarily... but when i open the next time its just standing at 66% only!!
[06:57] <profxavier> when connecting to an Ubuntu machine, via samba, how do you surf to a folder, when the machine is Windows 7. I am trying to go to \\ip.address, but im being prompted for a user/password
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux_:  theres dozens of irc clients out there.  xchat is the common one.
[06:57] <soadkombucha> actionParsnip: Not too long ago crossover was free for a while
[06:57] <ConfusedLinux_> my experience with playonlinux is terrible
[06:58] <ConfusedLinux_> it doesnt even install
[06:58] <Colonel_Panic> what I want to do is be able to access the SSID and signal strength info from my wirelewss card
[06:58] <ConfusedLinux_> anyways
[06:58] <ConfusedLinux_> wubi time
[06:58] <ConfusedLinux_> be back soon
[06:58] <soadkombucha> Colonel_Panic: What wireless card
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux_:  what game exactly are you trying to play? Starcraft 1 2? 3 ? i dont even keep track.
[06:58] <actionParsnip> profxavier: on the server run:  sudo smbpasswd -a $USER   and type your login password for $USER for all prompts
[06:58] <lost> help on this http://paste.ubuntu.com/455777/
[06:58] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: It's 2
[06:58] <Colonel_Panic> it's a broadcom
[06:58] <actionParsnip> profxavier: you can now authenticate as $USER
[06:58] <Colonel_Panic> in a Dell Mini 9
[06:58] <chinmaya__> Does anyone know how to control the default zoom property for nautilus. For one of my folders it has got reset to  66% rather than 100%
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> Linux is 'bad' because wine cant play all windows games.. :) Gotta love the logic.
[06:59] <soadkombucha> Colonel_Panic: Hmm. The only wireless card I know how to configure well is my realtek driver because those are a PAIN to get running on ubuntu
[06:59] <actionParsnip> Dr_Willis: its flawed, it's wines fault ;)
[06:59] <profxavier> actionParsnip, then any domain/user combo, as long as user is on the server, should work ?
[06:59]  * wise_crypt cant understand that
[06:59] <actionParsnip> profxavier: just needs to be the username you used, no need for domain stuff
[06:59] <Colonel_Panic> Well,if I mouse over the wireless signal icon in my system tray, it displays the SSID and other info about the network
[07:00] <chinmaya__> Does anyone know how to control the default zoom property for nautilus. For one of my folders it has got reset to  66% rather than 100%
[07:00] <ConfusedLinux> eh
[07:00] <soadkombucha> Colonel_Panic: Does it at least connect?
[07:00] <slacker-> actionParsnip: thanks for your help
[07:00] <Colonel_Panic> yeah, it works fine
[07:00] <soadkombucha> Colonel_Panic: Lucky you. I had to compile my drivers.
[07:00] <actionParsnip> slacker-: np bro
[07:00] <ConfusedLinux> dr_willis it wont even install Ubuntu Netbook
[07:00] <soadkombucha> Colonel_Panic: And they're still iffy sometimes... Although I downloaded a slightly more recent release and it seems to be running better
[07:00] <Colonel_Panic> if I open the connection manager, the ESSID, BSSID, signal strength, etc. are displayed
[07:00] <profxavier> actionParsnip, the Windows dialog already pre-fills that info in
[07:01] <Colonel_Panic> but that info does not show up in iwconfig
[07:01] <chinmaya__> Does anyone know how to control the default zoom property for nautilus. For one of my folders it has got reset to  66% rather than 100%
[07:01] <soadkombucha> Hmm
[07:01] <actionParsnip> profxavier: i see, you may have to change it to the name on the Ubuntu side which is what you authenticating against
[07:01] <profxavier> ah, perfect
[07:01] <soadkombucha> Colonel_Panic: I have no idea
[07:01] <Colonel_Panic> what I want to do is access that info somehow, so I can display it on my conky-enhanced desktop
[07:01] <profxavier> working, thanks actionParsnip/Dr_Willis
[07:01] <Colonel_Panic> does anyone know the name of the connection manager in Ubuntu?
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> chinmaya__:  the people in #gnome may know where that setting is at.. ive never had one folder get 'stuck'
[07:02] <ConfusedLinux> Does anyone have a simple way, like Wubi, to install Linux Mint 9 dual booted with Windows 7?
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux:  dont use mint. I dont see any point in using mint.
[07:02] <actionParsnip> !mint | ConfusedLinux
[07:02] <chinmaya__> Dr_Willis, thanks!! I will get this to them... :)
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux:  if you want to 'test' out linux in an easy way. try it in virtualbox.
[07:02] <soadkombucha> Colonel_Panic: WICD
[07:02] <wise_crypt> !mint | ConfusedLinux
[07:02] <Colonel_Panic> WICD?
[07:02] <Colonel_Panic> OK
[07:03] <actionParsnip> Dr_Willis: i believe it has all the restricted stuff already rolled in
[07:03] <soadkombucha> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=299462
[07:03] <Colonel_Panic> I wonder how I can go about accessing that information then
[07:03] <soadkombucha> That was a few years ago
[07:03] <ConfusedLinux> dr_willis: dont know how, also, mint might work 1st try unlike ubuntu
[07:03] <soadkombucha> But I can't see them changing it too much
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> actionParsnip:  its got a lot of JUnk rolled in. :)
[07:03] <soadkombucha> lemme check synaptic
[07:03] <rashd7_> hi all
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux:  go do what you want.. but then see the Mint channel not here.
[07:03] <actionParsnip> Dr_Willis: yah
[07:03] <Colonel_Panic> I'm thinking about writing a python script to pass that daya to conky
[07:03] <HeTaL> Colonel_Panic: WICD is not the main connection manager.
[07:03] <Colonel_Panic> =OK...
[07:03] <rashd7_> i have a trident tv tuner card which works fine on windows
[07:03] <rashd7_> but in linux its not recognised
[07:04] <soadkombucha> HeTaL: What is it then? I'm curious
[07:04] <soadkombucha> Colonel_Panic: Did you try command arguments for iwconfig?
[07:04] <Colonel_Panic> well, I just want to find out where that information is stored
[07:04] <actionParsnip> HeTaL: its still a good network manager, its DE independant too so can be used on any desktop without issue
[07:04] <rashd7_> how to use my tv tuner card in ubuntu 10.04
[07:04] <soadkombucha> actionParsnip: Does it work with the ubuntu wireless panel?
[07:04] <Colonel_Panic> yeah that ESSID, BSSID, signal strength, etc doesn't show up.
[07:04] <HeTaL> actionParsnip: I thought he might want to run it after it crashed.
[07:04] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: not seen that before
[07:04] <soadkombucha> Colonel_Panic: iwconfig x
[07:04] <ConfusedLinux> dr_willis: whats the mint channel?
[07:04] <actionParsnip> HeTaL: i prefer it personally
[07:04] <HeTaL> actionParsnip: Same here
[07:04] <ConfusedLinux> dr_willis: new to irc as well
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux:  no idea.  see the mint homepage.. and i dont know that either..
[07:05] <soadkombucha> actionParsnip: Seen what?
[07:05] <HeTaL> soadkombucha: It's a gnome default, if I remember correctly. Can't remember the name
[07:05] <actionParsnip> !mintsupport | ConfusedLinux
[07:05] <soadkombucha> actionParsnip: The panel icon that displays the wireless connectivity?
[07:05] <wise_crypt> Colonel_Panic: just download network-manager from apt and see what in it might do the trick :)
[07:05] <Colonel_Panic> ok
[07:05] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: ubuntu wireless panel
[07:05] <Colonel_Panic> one sec
[07:05] <soadkombucha> actionParsnip: The icon that displays the wireless network manager
[07:06] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: oic, yeah it runs around there
[07:06] <Colonel_Panic> it's something to do with that wl-broadcom driver
[07:06] <soadkombucha> actionParsnip: I'm going to try it out
[07:06] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: you mean the indicator applet
[07:06] <soadkombucha> actionParsnip: Yeah I didn't know the name for it
[07:06] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: it doesnt support 3G afaik
[07:06] <Colonel_Panic> also, my wifi adapter shows up as eth0
[07:06] <liga> здравствуйте
[07:06] <ConfusedLinux> dr_willis: heres the error ubuntu netbook gives me when i try using Wubi
[07:06] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: it may run in the tray rather than indicator. i dont use gnome
[07:07] <Colonel_Panic> sorry, I mean eth1
[07:07] <mneptok> !ru | liga
[07:07] <soadkombucha> Wow WICD looks nice
[07:07] <Colonel_Panic> if I plug in my USB wifi adapter, it shows up as wlan0
[07:07] <ConfusedLinux> dr_willis: one sec, I have to wait for the error
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux:  i never use wubi either. I do normal dual boots on my netbook.   I thought you had a WINE issue?
[07:08] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: its a pc with a green bar, not exactly a looer
[07:08] <ConfusedLinux> dr_willis: i have tons of linux issues.
[07:08] <raj-darkmystery> msg NickServ identify mailjol
[07:08] <Colonel_Panic> is there a way to change the name of my internal broadcom adapter to wlan0 instead of eth0?
[07:08] <mneptok> raj-darkmystery: oops. password change time
[07:08] <Colonel_Panic> sorry if this sounds confusing
[07:08] <raj-darkmystery> mnemon, yes hehe :)
[07:09] <Colonel_Panic> I think it's some strange quirk of wl-broadcom driver
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> Colonel_Panic:  from what ive noticed that name depensds on the driver its using.  I got a similer issue on one of my laptops
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> Colonel_Panic:  thw wireless works.. its just a little confuseing to some applets
[07:09] <ConfusedLinux> dr_willis: it doesn't recognize that a disk is in in both Wine and Playonlinux so whenever I want to play I have to type stuff into terminal. When I do get it running, about three or four minutes into a game it will kick me out of ubuntu. Now wubi wont work.
[07:10] <`Assassin> What's the name of that Ubuntu app with which you install drivers?
[07:10] <ConfusedLinux> dr_willis: wubi might be working this time
[07:10] <Colonel_Panic> I believe if it was named wlan0 instead of eth0, the info relevant to wifi will be displayed
[07:10] <Colonel_Panic> by conky
[07:10] <Colonel_Panic> get what I'm saying?
[07:10] <soadkombucha> OK I did NOT get enough sleep last night, and it's going on 1:15AM here
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux:  often with wine - and some games. the issue can be the game-cd-copy protection.  ive had to use various no-cd-cracks in the past to play my 'legally bought' games in Wine befor,.
[07:11] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha_sle: i'm in the closing minutes of a 12 hour shift at work, i'm shattered
[07:11] <actionParsnip> !away > soad_sleep
[07:11] <Colonel_Panic> ConfusedLnux, have you looked up the game in the WineHQ?
[07:12] <ConfusedLinux> yes
[07:12] <Colonel_Panic> what game is it?
[07:12] <ConfusedLinux> dr_willis: i think there might be a developer-made no cd thing
[07:12] <ConfusedLinux> starcraft
[07:12] <Colonel_Panic> I've been able to get a lot of games running in Linux under Wine
[07:12] <ConfusedLinux> well you apparently have magical powers...
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux:  starcrtaft 1? 2? 1.3.34.2?
[07:13] <Colonel_Panic> ConfusedLinux, how much RAM do you have in your machine?
[07:13] <ConfusedLinux> dr_willis: SC 1, latest patch. 4gb ram and 2.11 ghz processor
[07:13] <ConfusedLinux> dr_willis: also SC brood-war
[07:13] <ConfusedLinux> ooops
[07:13] <actionParsnip> ConfusedLinux: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=72
[07:14] <ConfusedLinux> actionParsnip: believe me, ive read it multiple times already
[07:14] <Colonel_Panic> ConfusedLinux, I've never played Starcraft so I wouldn't know about that game specifically
[07:14] <Colonel_Panic> How much RAM do you have in your machine?
[07:14] <profxavier> how can I run applications on my Windows 7 system
[07:14] <ConfusedLinux> 4gb
[07:15] <ConfusedLinux> and a 2.11ghz processor
[07:15] <profxavier> like they would be running on Ubuntu, in a GUI...
[07:15] <Colonel_Panic> that's a good amount of RAm
[07:15] <ConfusedLinux> ...
[07:15] <Colonel_Panic> have you considered running the game in a virtual machine?
[07:15] <actionParsnip> profxavier: in linux? unless they are portable apps it most likely wont work due to registry entries
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:  clarify what you mean...
[07:15] <lgp> hi
[07:15] <wildbat> ubuntu don't give the option to suspend/sleep(it got hibernates thou) in the shutdown menu~ what should i do to enable it? 10.04, E6600, ASUS P5B
[07:15] <Colonel_Panic> profxavier, what apps?
[07:15] <profxavier> i want to run firefox, but from putty
[07:16] <Colonel_Panic> putty? why?
[07:16] <ConfusedLinux> colonel_panic: well A. i dont know how to get ubuntu into a virtual machine. B. ive heard it doesnt work.
[07:16] <profxavier> which runs off my Ubuntu station, which I have SSHed into
[07:16] <actionParsnip> Colonel_Panic: central point of execution, settings and profiles i one place
[07:16] <ConfusedLinux> ubuntu netbook ISO is almost downloaded from wubi
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:  to see a 'linux' application ran remotely on the windows machine. You will nee d a X server on the window smachine  such as 'xming'
[07:16] <lgp> Ihava problems getting gnash working like adobe flashplayer in Ubuntu 10.04 AMD64
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:  so short answer  "install xming' on windows
[07:16] <Colonel_Panic> ConfusedLinux: you run a virtualization package like VirtualBox, and install Windows into that
[07:17] <ruari> profxavier : try lynx, browser for terminal
[07:17] <Colonel_Panic> it will display your Windows desktop in a window
[07:17] <actionParsnip> profxavier: if you connect with x formwarding enabled in putty, you can launch firefox in the putty session and it will appear on the windows screen (assuming you have an x server like xming running)
[07:17] <Colonel_Panic> and you casn install and run any Windows apps you like
[07:17] <Colonel_Panic> for all intents and purposes, it will be just like running Windows
[07:17] <actionParsnip> lgp: why not use the flashplugin-nonfree package ?
[07:17] <Colonel_Panic> but... on top of Lkinux
[07:17] <Colonel_Panic> Linux
[07:17] <ConfusedLinux> colonel_panic: you mean install ubuntu in it? I like windows better. also what would that solve?
[07:18] <ConfusedLinux> starcraft would still freeze...
[07:18] <Colonel_Panic> you.re currently running Linux, correct?
[07:18] <ConfusedLinux> no
[07:18] <ConfusedLinux> i just reinstalled it
[07:18] <Colonel_Panic> what is it you want to do, exactly?
[07:18] <actionParsnip> ConfusedLinux: have you tried both versions of wine?
[07:18] <ConfusedLinux> no
[07:18] <Colonel_Panic> plasy Starcraft from within Lmux?
[07:19] <ConfusedLinux> it doesnt work
[07:19] <actionParsnip> ConfusedLinux: uninstall wine and then install wine1.2
[07:19] <Colonel_Panic> you want to play Starcraft within Linux?
[07:19] <ConfusedLinux> yes
[07:19] <Colonel_Panic> OK
[07:19] <ConfusedLinux> thats the only reason i want linux
[07:19] <lgp> It doesnt work for me......I can get the controlpanes to work.
[07:19] <Colonel_Panic> 1. install VirtualBox
[07:19] <ConfusedLinux> it doesnt work on windows 7, just so you know
[07:19] <Pitel> Colonel_Panic: better use wine
[07:20] <wildbat> !wine | ConfusedLinux
[07:20] <Colonel_Panic> 2. Open Virtualbox and Install Windows onto the virtual machine
[07:20] <ConfusedLinux> it wont work panic
[07:20] <ConfusedLinux> thats why im getting linux
[07:20] <ConfusedLinux> to make it run IN linux
[07:20] <ConfusedLinux> not in a fake w7
[07:20] <Colonel_Panic> 3. Install Starcraft on your Windows installation in virtualization
[07:20] <ConfusedLinux> ...
[07:20] <ConfusedLinux> or you could just ignore me
[07:20] <Colonel_Panic> 4. Play Starcraft
[07:20] <Adem> whats the point of emerald themer? it doesnt let you change themes via it does it?
[07:20] <ConfusedLinux> 5. have the game freeze after 3 minutes
[07:21] <ConfusedLinux> you forgot that one
[07:21] <Colonel_Panic> You've tried it?
[07:21] <ConfusedLinux> yes
[07:21] <ConfusedLinux> on the actual w7
[07:21] <zryan> hi all
[07:21] <Colonel_Panic> oh sorry
[07:21] <profxavier> firefox was an example of an application that runs in a GUI, that can be run from a call, from within putty
[07:21] <Colonel_Panic> I didn't see where you mentioned that
[07:21] <profxavier> just an example
[07:21] <ConfusedLinux> k
[07:21] <XP1> anyone remember my problem with the freezing after install?
[07:21] <Colonel_Panic> maybe I casme in after you mentioned that
[07:21] <profxavier> i realize I can install FF for Windows
[07:21] <XP1> on my win98-era computer
[07:22] <ConfusedLinux> it runs fine on Windows 98, XP, vista, but not Windows 7 or ubuntu
[07:22] <ConfusedLinux> so thats why I wanted to get linux, to see if it would work there
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:  I use 'xming' to 'ssh' to my linux box's from my windows machines and run linux apps on the local windows desktop. that way i can haev a gnome-terminal, or gedit, or other apps appear  here.. while they are actually running on the box in the basement. :)
[07:22] <ConfusedLinux> and in wine and playonlinux, it said there was no CD in
[07:23] <ConfusedLinux> so i used terminal to start it
[07:23] <ConfusedLinux> and it worked
[07:23] <ConfusedLinux> but then kicked me out of ubuntu after a few minutes
[07:23] <ConfusedLinux> and said that it wasnt installed, when i was playing it...
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux:  ubuntu totally crashed? or the game crashed? or the Desjktop crashed back to GDM?
[07:23] <vadi01> guys how to i add myself to the to the user group vboxusers using the graphical add users program? i can see my user name in gui but how?
[07:23] <vadi01> using lucid
[07:23] <ConfusedLinux> dr_willis: it went back to the login screen
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux:  so 'X' crashed then basically.
[07:24] <Colonel_Panic> profxavier: www.andlinux.org
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux:  and whats your video card?
[07:24] <Adem> whats the point of emerald themer? it doesnt let you change themes via it does it?
[07:24] <ConfusedLinux> dr_willis: not too sure. i know everything else though
[07:25] <Colonel_Panic> actionParsnip: were you replying to my wifi question?
[07:26] <delinquentme> soo ubuntu came prepackaged w this great little app called tomboy notes ... and i went to use the spell correct on it ... and it crashed ...... now it wont start back up
[07:26] <ruari> Dr Willis: xming looks mad cool, thanks for mentioning it
[07:26] <fpc> jjj
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux:  from what i just googled. starcraft in wine. cant work online/in battlenet. but should work with the latest wine. I dont even know where my old starcraft cd is at.
[07:26] <ConfusedLinux> dr_willis: those people have a different problem. I got onto battlenet fine. it still crashed.
[07:27] <Colonel_Panic> ConfusedLinux: Some Windows apps (especially games) do not work in Wine
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> ruari:  yep its handy.  Its a  little odd how the licensing/release schedule works. at least it used to be.  If you wanted the latest you were expected to give a little $$ to the project. :)
[07:27] <wildbat> ubuntu don't give the option to suspend/sleep(it got hibernates thou) in the shutdown menu~ what should i do to enable it? 10.04, E6600, ASUS P5B
[07:27] <Colonel_Panic> especially newer games, I should have said
[07:27] <ConfusedLinux> colonel_panic: there is youtube videos of people playing it online in wine in ubuntu
[07:27] <ConfusedLinux> colonel_panic: are videos*
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux:  so that game worked, ran. but then X crashed.. thats the 'core' of the problem/
[07:28] <ConfusedLinux> dr_willis: what is this "X"?
[07:28] <Colonel_Panic> did these videos give a link to a tutorial showing how to get it running?
[07:28] <wildbat> ConfusedLinux, wineisn't supported here ~ go to #winehq / http://winehq.org
[07:28] <ConfusedLinux> colonel_panic: no, and if they did i guarantee it wouldnt work on my comp
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux:  X is the core of the Linux Desktop.
[07:29] <ConfusedLinux> wildbat: im hardly talking about wine.
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux:  the 'foundatiion' of the whole GUI system.
[07:29] <Colonel_Panic> ConfusedLinux, have you tried these tutorials?
[07:29] <ConfusedLinux> dr_willis: oh ok
[07:29] <ConfusedLinux> colonel_panic: i said there arent any
[07:29] <Colonel_Panic> X Windows
[07:29] <ConfusedLinux> colonel_panic: atleast that work.
[07:30] <Colonel_Panic> have you tried them?
[07:30] <ConfusedLinux> yes
[07:30] <ConfusedLinux> dr_willis: so would it be a problem with wine or ubuntu or my video card?
[07:30] <Colonel_Panic> you might want to consider installing a dual-boot with Windows and Linux
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux:   it sounds more a problem with the video card/X server/Desktop then it is a wine issue
[07:30] <ConfusedLinux> thats what i have...
[07:31] <aurilliance> When setting up my partitions, I accidentally told one drive to mount at /meda/sdfsdf rather than /media/sdfsdf how can I change this?
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> Im suprised theres not some dozen+ pages on getting starcraft working in Win7 out there.
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  edit /etc/fstab
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  and make sure the proper directory exists in /media/
[07:31] <Colonel_Panic> so why not just boot into Windows and run Starcraft under Windows instead of dicking around with Wine?
[07:31] <ConfusedLinux> dr_willis: okay, so there isnt any simple fix?
[07:31] <aurilliance> Dr_Willis, thanks
[07:31] <ConfusedLinux> how many times do i have to say it
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux:  want me to wave my magical wand? :)
[07:32] <ConfusedLinux> i tried on windows
[07:32] <ConfusedLinux> it freezes
[07:32] <ConfusedLinux> dr_willis: ?
[07:32] <Colonel_Panic> then there's some other issue at fault
[07:32] <ConfusedLinux> well wine also said "the game isnt installed" while i was playing it...
[07:32] <Colonel_Panic> if it freezes and crashes in both Windows or Linux, then there's obviousoly something else to blame
[07:32] <profxavier> hmm xming isnt working
[07:33] <profxavier> i setup X11 forwarding in my sshd_config
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:  its a complex tool. check its docs/guides and logs
[07:33] <Adem> what radio plugins can I use on rhythmbox so i can broadcast?
[07:33] <profxavier> but I get "Error: Can't open display:"
[07:33] <ConfusedLinux> colonel_panic: or maybe windows 7 has that problem for EVERY 7 user, and linux/wine is just retarded?
[07:33] <ConfusedLinux> colonel_panic: and yes, the majority of 7 users have that problem
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:   be sure you dont accidently run more then 1 x server. I also recall issues where if i ran the wizard to start an app more then once. it wouldent work properly sometimes.
[07:33] <Colonel_Panic> Linux is a fantastic OS for a lot of things
[07:34] <Guest98538> ConfusedLinux, what problem
[07:34] <deb_df>  Hi I just downloaded a program that works for windows only, I have wine installed, but for some reason when I double click to install the program, it gives me an error
[07:34] <Colonel_Panic> playing Windows games, not so much
[07:34] <ConfusedLinux> starcraft crashes X
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> http://gaming.icrontic.com/article/get-starcraft-working-on-windows-7-three-easy-steps/
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:34] <ConfusedLinux> one sec
[07:34] <Jordan_U> deb_df: What does the program do?
[07:34] <ConfusedLinux> i doubt i havent already read it
[07:34]  * Dr_Willis looks at his HUGE box of old old old windows games...
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> and decides to not dig it out.
[07:35] <ConfusedLinux> willis those 3 steps dont fix anything
[07:35] <deb_df> jordan_u: its just a video editor
[07:35] <ConfusedLinux> supposedly the freezing is a problem with ddraw.dll
[07:35] <Colonel_Panic> doubt... you haven't...already read it... is that as triple or just a double-negatigve=
[07:35] <ConfusedLinux> learn to spell
[07:35] <Colonel_Panic> sounds like you're dooming yourself to failure before even trying
[07:35] <bazhang> ConfusedLinux, please calm down
[07:35] <Guest98538> deb_df, what error
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> Colonel_Panic:  thats the extent of my research on the topic. so im basically done.
[07:35] <profxavier> what would I do to find out which displays are available, which are in use?
[07:36] <Colonel_Panic> what exactly do you expect from us?
[07:36] <deb_df> its says: "not marked as executable"
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> oopps wromng nick again. :) heh
[07:36]  * Dr_Willis enlarges his fonts again
[07:36] <break> holas viva mexico
[07:36] <deb_df> jordan_u: its says: "not marked as executable"
[07:36] <Guest98538> deb_df, ok mark as executable
[07:37] <Colonel_Panic> Is Starcraft even compatible with Windows 7?
[07:37] <deb_df> ha!
[07:37] <deb_df> it worked
[07:38] <Colonel_Panic> It's a pretty old game, isn't it?
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> Colonel_Panic:  it has 'issues' from what i juszt googled.
[07:38] <xangua> Colonel_Panic: this is ubuntu, not windows
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> Colonel_Panic:  11 yrs old.
[07:38] <Colonel_Panic> xangua, thanks
[07:38] <ConfusedLinux> Also, the install.exe and setup.exe inside of the starcraft disk are marked as not executable, so wine cant open them
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> Colonel_Panic:  it also seems it had issues in wine. most of which have been fixed at this time.
[07:38] <ConfusedLinux> yeah, I fixed the color problem that most people have
[07:38] <Colonel_Panic> well if somebody's not even willing to try...
[07:38] <ConfusedLinux> ...
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux:  thats due to a quirk in the wine/launcher..  which is a very annoying bug.
[07:38] <bazhang> ConfusedLinux, check the appdb and /join #winehq for specific game help
[07:39] <bazhang> !appdb | ConfusedLinux
[07:39] <ConfusedLinux> you dont understand how much i tried before coming to irc
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux:  so you basically use wine via command line to launch the exe's
[07:39] <IdleOne> Colonel_Panic: for windows support please join ##windows
[07:39] <Colonel_Panic> Haha I don't need Windows support! I don't even run Windows!
[07:39] <bazhang> Colonel_Panic, lets get back on topic then
[07:39] <ConfusedLinux> bazhang: I already checked the db
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux:  if Wine is crashing X so badly its going back to the GDM login. well thats the problem to check into.
[07:39] <Colonel_Panic> OK howabout my wifi driver issue?
[07:39] <bazhang> ConfusedLinux, then /join #winehq
[07:40] <Colonel_Panic> is it possible to have my wifi adapter renamed to wlan0 instead of eth1?
[07:40] <mneptok> ConfusedLinux: this "Starcraft won't work" issue is now best moved to #winehq. the problem is WINE, not Ubuntu per se.
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> Colonel_Panic:  i think its possible.. but i dont recall how. :)
[07:41] <aurilliance> >insert pun about a certain user being confused<
[07:41] <ConfusedLinux> mneptok: how can you be sure that the problem is wine?
[07:42] <mneptok> ConfusedLinux: well, i'm not entirely. the problem could be that you don't have the lsightest idea what you're doing. but i'm trying to be nice.
[07:42] <ConfusedLinux> mneptok: thats true. linux is really confusing.
[07:42] <mneptok> ConfusedLinux: only to new users.
[07:42]  * Dr_Willis finds windows confuseing.
[07:43] <ConfusedLinux> we are opposites
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> but we dont want to start that OT again.
[07:43] <Colonel_Panic> Windows 7 was *NOT* MY idea
[07:43] <mneptok> ConfusedLinux: in any event, your Starcraft issue is not going to get fixed here. i siggest asking in #winehq.
[07:43]  * Dr_Willis has now spent more time researching  Starcraft, then he has actually ever PLAYING the game.
[07:43] <mneptok> *suggest
[07:44] <ConfusedLinux> mneptok: i've got more help here than there. nobody has said anything.
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux:  now if you have several windows games that cause wine to crash so badly it goes back to GDM. well that may be a Driver issue/video issue. or some deeper linux issue..
[07:44] <Colonel_Panic> might I recommend World of Goo? That's an excellent game that runs great in Linux
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux:  there are also updated versions of wine at the winehq web site that may work
[07:44] <mneptok> ConfusedLinux: that's not a salient point. the discussion *belongs* in #winehq.
[07:44] <ruari> colonel_panic: do a cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[07:45] <Guest98538> free software is free but you have to make it work
[07:45] <deb_df> is there anyway to install an old ati card onto ubuntu 10.04?.
[07:45] <Colonel_Panic> thanks, ruari
[07:45] <deb_df> I do have the driver its a .run file
[07:45] <bazhang> !ot > Guest98538
[07:45] <ConfusedLinux> dr_willis: i'll go try downloading a newer version or going to the terminal to start the setup.exe before mneptok has a baby
[07:45] <ruari> then vi or gedit
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> deb_df:  an old ati card proberly uses the opensource drivers.. and wont work with the newer ati drivers.
[07:45] <Guest98538> deb_df, what card do you have
[07:46] <Clemens> I want to upgrade/download the adobe flashplayer on my new Ubuntu 64-bit 10.04 machine. I think I tried all versions mentioned on the website http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/. What to do to get it installed ?
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux:  do BOTH.
[07:46] <ConfusedLinux> dr_willis: thats what i mean
[07:46] <ruari> Colonel_panic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1199030
[07:46] <ruari> that might help
[07:46] <deb_df> Guest98538: well its an intergrated one into the board, ati 1250
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> Clemens:  i just use the one in the package manager. I never downioad it from adobes site
[07:46] <nikolam> what should I do about misbihaving google earth on Lucid amd64? The one that I downloaded from google after that, does not even start..
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> nikolam:  run it in terminal, look for error messages.
[07:47] <Clemens> Dr_Willis: Is there a apt-get way to do that ?
[07:47] <Beirdo> Anyone have a pointer to a page, etc that shows how to setup wireless with WPA2 without network-manager?
[07:47] <nikolam> Dr_Willis, yes and it does not say where to report error log
[07:47] <nikolam> problem is that one from repos have issues with display
[07:48] <Colonel_Panic> ruari, all I need do is change the name in there and it will work fine?
[07:48] <xangua> Clemens: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree , install ubuntu-restricted-extras to also install video and audio codecs, etc
[07:48] <deb_df> any1?
[07:48] <geoffrey_white> It worked by the way, thank you.
[07:48] <Clemens> xangua: thanks. I will try
[07:48] <ruari> no guarantees in life, :)
[07:48] <mneptok> Clemens: hold on.
[07:48] <xangua> Beirdo: wicd¿¿
[07:48] <mneptok> Clemens: you said AMD64, yes?
[07:49] <Clemens> mneptok: yes
[07:49] <Beirdo> xangua: ??
[07:49] <mneptok> Clemens: the packaged version will install the 32 bit plugin and nspluginwrapper
[07:49] <Beirdo> I want my wireless config in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:49] <Beirdo> but I can't seem to find the magic incantations
[07:49] <Clemens> mneptok: What should I do now ?
[07:50] <mneptok> Clemens: Adobe cancelled development of the 64-bit Linux beta, and it's no longer available for download. one moment while i get my archived version for you.
[07:51] <Clemens> mneptok: thanks
[07:51] <Colonel_Panic> Beirdo: klaatu barada nikto
[07:51] <Beirdo> hehe
[07:52] <Colonel_Panic> OK rebooting...
[07:52] <Colonel_Panic> biab
[07:55] <inpxfx> hello
[07:56] <Guest98538> sup
[07:56] <Colonel_panic> ugh...
[07:56] <Colonel_panic> still showing  up as eth0
[07:56] <Colonel_panic> I mean eth1
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[07:57] <delinquentme> SO!
[07:57] <delinquentme> ive got some corrupted files!!
[07:57] <Colonel_panic> ugh...damn it
[07:57] <delinquentme> wooohoo!
[07:57] <delinquentme> used this, but I have heard that this is a very good place to start
 what is your programming background?
 HTML css php
 actionscript
 this is my first HARD coding language
[07:57] <FloodBot2> delinquentme: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:58] <delinquentme> http://pastie.org/1020571
[07:58] <delinquentme> what do i do :D
[07:59] <delinquentme> all this stuff randomly got corrputed
[07:59] <Guest98538> reinstall
[07:59] <Fatzilla> rob_p: s
[07:59] <delinquentme> rails?
[08:00] <Colonel_panic> hmmm that didn't seem to work
[08:00] <Guest98538> yeah
[08:00] <Colonel_panic> it did not change the name of my wireless adapter
[08:00] <ruari_> you rebooted?
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> Colonel_panic:  even after a a reboot eh?
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> reboot 10 times! :)
[08:01] <Colonel_panic> yeah
[08:01] <Colonel_panic> hehe
[08:01] <Colonel_panic> why not?
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> Colonel_panic: if you use wicd you can tell wicd what interface name to use and you won't have to rename the device
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> Oh wait - thats windows thinking
[08:01] <emergion> is there a package I can use for development. Something that includes a web server, mysql and  I can plug apache modules in as I need them ?
[08:01] <Colonel_panic> what's wicd?
[08:01] <emergion> I love the way rails just has its own server :)
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> !lamp | emergion
[08:02] <delinquentme> sudo apt-get rails -v 2.3.5 ??
[08:02] <delinquentme> i think i need a spcific version
[08:02] <emergion> delinquentme, ?
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> we dont know what versions you need. :)
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: you will need to add: --reinstall ,if you want to reinstall a package which is currently installed
[08:03] <thalib> does anyone know a good download manger for ubuntu
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> thalib: gwget
[08:03] <Guest98538> delinquentme, what is corrupted
[08:03] <delinquentme> sudo apt-get rails --reinstall -v 2.3.5 ??
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> thalib: I've seen people mention jdownloader but I've not used it
[08:03] <Guest98538> thalib, synaptic
[08:03] <Guest98538> next!
[08:03] <delinquentme> tons ... donno how it happened
[08:03] <delinquentme> http://pastie.org/1020571
[08:03] <delinquentme> thats the readout from my previously working spec spec/
[08:04] <thalib> does it support usernames and passowrd for sites like rapidshare and hotfile
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: sudo apt-get --reinstall install packagename
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> thalib: not sure, search software centre
[08:04] <ruari> ActionsParsnip: wicd, mad cool thanks!
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> thalib:  check its homepage perhaps.
[08:05] <delinquentme> like that pastie code used to return 6 examples 0 errors
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> ruari: I find it more flexible than network manager although it doesn't support 3G afaik
[08:05] <delinquentme> annd magically now everything breaks
[08:05] <thalib> Dr-willis > which home page
[08:05] <ruari> yes someone earlier was asking how to configure from CLI wpa2, looks like this would do it, trying to see if they still in chat
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> ruari: wicd has an ncurses interface too :)
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> thalib:  the jdownloader homepage. if you want to know its features.
[08:06] <thalib> oh
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> its not in the repos. There are some downloader tools in the repos.. but proberly dont do what you want. (judgeing from your questions about jdownloader)
[08:07] <delinquentme> ok so it looks like the reinstall went through .. however still have the errors : http://pastie.org/1020571
[08:07] <thalib> is there are newer version of ubuntu comning up
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> !maverick | thalib
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> thalib:  every 6 months
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: was typing that (slowly)
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> thalib:  notice that the 'version' numbers are actually the month/year  of release.
[08:10]  * Dr_Willis goes back to answering forum questions
[08:10] <mek8630> does anyone know an easy way to download and install a different version of the kernel?
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> mek8630:  there are kernel PPA repos out for newer kernel vbersions.. but use with caution
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> mek8630: you'll need the debs for the kernel, the modules and the headers
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> mek8630:  unless you mean you want some Other older versions..
[08:11] <thalib> i have installed both .34 and .35 kernels
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> mek8630: i'd say very caution. Some are very experimental
[08:11] <thalib> so far no problems
[08:12] <mek8630> Dr_Willis: yeah I am wanting to use karmic kernel
[08:12] <thalib> whats that
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> thalib: why are you using the 35 kernel?
[08:13] <mek8630> ActionParsnip: I am wanting to use an older version
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> mek8630: same applys, you may find some stuff in your release needs certain stuff in the kernel which may be lacking in older versions
[08:13] <thalib> i just installed becuase i have problem loading my tuner... on the way i fouind it support .34 so installed .35 also when i found it
[08:13] <thalib> nothing specific
[08:14] <thalib> i'm just learning ubuntu and very much newbie
[08:14] <delinquentme> sudo gem --reinstall install rails -v 2.3.5
[08:14] <delinquentme> is this syntactically correct?
[08:14] <mek8630> Dr_Willis: someone told me that since the kernel in Linux Mint 9 wasn't compatible with my graphics chipset because of it being so old. I needed to use an older kernel
[08:14] <alasca> how can i install java from terminal?ubuntu extra repositories are enabled.
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> mek8630: mint isn't supported here
[08:15] <delinquentme> ActionParsnip, comments? checks out?
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: I've not used gem
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> mek8630:  what chipset?  somthing seems faulty with the logic of that statement.
[08:15] <mek8630> ActionParsnip: I understand this is the Ubuntu chat, but I am asking about kernels
[08:15] <delinquentme> its for RoR .. that parts good .. does the rest look ok?
[08:15] <delinquentme> im a bit scared im gonna break my new install haha
[08:15] <mek8630> ActionParsnip: also Mint is based off of Ubuntu
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> mek8630: yes its based but its not supported here
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> You want to use a older ubuntu kernel on a mint install>?
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> !mintsupport | mek8630
[08:16] <mek8630> Dr_Willis: /exec -o inxi -G
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> mek8630: like I said, its NOT supported here
[08:16] <mek8630> Dr_Willis: sorry that didn't work
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> mek8630: if you expect support in the official ubuntu channel you must be using an official canonical release
[08:17] <qwiksilver711> how do i run something in terminal, i know i need to be in the directory, what command runs?
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> I would think that any 'driver' issues for video would be more of a Driver and X version issue then a kernel issue.  In any case.
[08:18] <mek8630> ActionParsnip: I am using Xubuntu right now in this channel but really please don't talking to me, I don't really need your input
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> qwiksilver711:  bash basics.. 'cd Dirctory'  './thingtorun'
[08:18] <Noobuntu> .
[08:18] <Joshmuffin> qwiksilver711, what are you trying to run
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> !shell | qwiksilver711
[08:18] <Joshmuffin> qwiksilver711, a bash script
[08:18] <thalib> where can i get all the command used in the terminal
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> mek8630: just telling you mint isn't supported and for why
[08:18] <qwiksilver711> a game file thing that I think will install it
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> qwiksilver711:  you CAN be a little more specific :)
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> thalib: press tab a few times with no text on the prompt
[08:19] <Joshmuffin> qwiksilver711, whats the files extention
[08:19] <mek8630> Dr_Willis: yeah I can't get drivers for my chipset for some reason
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> qwiksilver711:  you will want to make it executable also most likely
[08:19] <Colonel_panic> hmmm... How do I do this?
[08:19] <qwiksilver711> its a shell script
[08:19] <Colonel_panic> "The bootloader will no longer need the devfs=mount parameter on the kernel command-line. So, whether you use GRUB or LILO, remove or comment the reference to devfs=mount."
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> qwiksilver711:  and it may be worth while to spend an hr learning some bash and shell basics.
[08:19] <Colonel_panic> I'm installing udev
[08:19] <mek8630> Dr_Willis: the only easy solution I can think of is to install a supported GPU
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> thalib: there are lots, even in a vanilla install
[08:20] <Noobuntu> dr_willis: this is ConfusedLinux, I'm on ubuntu now. How should I get the latest Wine version?
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> mek8630:  i dident even see you mention what video it was. :) so cant really say mugh more
[08:20] <Colonel_panic> as per these instructions: http://www.debianadmin.com/rename-network-interface-using-udev-in-linux.html
[08:20] <qwiksilver711> Dr_Willis: where is a place where there may be a tutorial for terminal basics
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> Noobuntu:  get latest from the winehwq web site and repositories.
[08:20] <Joshmuffin> !wine
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> qwiksilver711:  doazens of sites.  check out the following
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> !terminal | qwiksilver711
[08:21] <delinquentme> http://pastie.org/1020571
[08:21] <delinquentme> anyone know whats going wrong here :D
[08:21] <mek8630> Dr_Willis: its ok I am just trying to find someone that knows about kernels.
[08:21] <Joshmuffin> !details | delinquentme
[08:21] <mek8630> Dr_Willis: I have read a few help forums on this and they are just confusing
[08:22] <Noobuntu> dr_willis: I also have a problem where the taskbar thing at the top disappears after awhile, do you know how to fix it?
[08:22] <Guest73275> I'm fairly new to linux I was just wondering, Right now then I'm using Ubuntu, if I wanted to install a package from a Red Hat Distro. then would I just open up a command line and go to the directory and use the commands ./configure & make to install the package
[08:22] <delinquentme> im tuning up my ruby on rails ... testing things out with git and rspec
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> Noobuntu:  sounds like lots of things are crashing on you that shouldent be.
[08:22] <delinquentme> i ran "git checkout ." ( which should bring all my files back to the last commit )
[08:22] <Noobuntu> Dr_Willis: google time for me.
[08:23] <delinquentme> HOWEVER ... i run "spec spec/" and i get the following
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> Noobuntu:  its hard to trouble shoot such problems. On a new clean install, you proberly want to update and upgrade everything to the latest versions and see if they are still crashing.
[08:23] <Noobuntu> dr_willis: ok
[08:23] <delinquentme> i was EXPECTING .. to get 6 examples 0 errors ... and i got 6 examples .. 6 errors
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> Noobuntu:  that will proberly be the first suggestion anyone will give you :)
[08:23] <ruari> Guest73275: if it is in an RPM package you could use alien
[08:24] <delinquentme> and im asking in #rubyonrails as well .. and no bites
[08:24] <Guest73275> I installed alien and still learning how to use it, is alien a command line driven program
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> Guest73275:  yes
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> !alien
[08:26] <delinquentme> now whats more worry some is in the output http://pastie.org/1020571 there are errors in files i havn't even TOUCHED
[08:26] <ruari> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RPM/AlienHowto
[08:27] <ruari> have you checked ubuntu's repositories for the program?
[08:27] <mek8630> Noobuntu: what other problems are you having besides your top panel disappearing?
[08:27] <S1564> Alright ya thats what i'm still kinda learning, so since I'm using ubuntu then I should just try to find the package thats meant for my distro. and if not find a similar program
[08:27] <S1564> alright thanks ruari I'll look at the site
[08:28] <mek8630> Noobuntu: the reason I ask is because I had that problem with Xubuntu and there is a help forum that tells you how to fix it
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> S1564:  what are you trying to install anyway?
[08:28] <ruari> yea especially if it is a production system
[08:28] <Noobuntu> mek8630: wine not working, playonlinux not working
[08:28] <Shadow__X> hello everyone i setup netatalk but an unable to connect from my mac it keeps saying i have entered invalid username or password
[08:28] <S1564> I've tried looking up programs like Ktorrent, and virtual box from google and It gave me a downloaded version of .rpm
[08:29] <S1564> still kinda a newbie
[08:29] <mek8630> Noobuntu: I know everyone in here will get mad at me for saying this...BUT switch to Linux Mint 9 man and all your problems will go away
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> S1564:  you need to learn to use teh ubuntu package manager.. those are all avilable with out  messing with rpms
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> !manual | S1564
[08:29] <mek8630> Noobuntu: everything works right after install you dont have to unlock any abilities or anything
[08:29] <mek8630> Noobuntu: all media and everything will work, I use Wine on Mint 9 and it works fine
[08:30] <ruari> s1564 : sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[08:30] <Noobuntu> mek8630: But what is the simplest way to dual boot Windows 7 and Mint 9? I used Wubi to do it with Ubuntu and it was easy
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> mek8630:  that logic dosent follow in all cases.    if he is having a driver bug/issue - mint uses the same driver versions...
[08:30] <Noobuntu> what if it isnt a driver issue...
[08:30] <S1564> Alright Thanks, i'll go through and kinda read over everything and learn more about
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> i dont even want to get into 'wubi' issues. :)
[08:31] <Noobuntu> :)
[08:31] <mek8630> Noobuntu: well I figure you can just install the same way you did Ubuntu
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> S1564:  thing to rember. uSe the package manager first... this is not windows.. going to a web site and downloading stuff to install is only in special cases in linux
[08:31] <mek8630> Dr_Willis: I have tons of problems with Ubuntu and Xubuntu working with different things.
[08:31] <mek8630> Dr_Willis: MInt 9 has always worked for me
[08:31] <Noobuntu> mek8630: Wubi gives no option to install Linux Mint 9
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> Noobuntu:  did you ever figure out your video chipset.
[08:32] <mek8630> Noobuntu: do you have a cd burner?
[08:32] <Noobuntu> dr_willis: didn't check, I got on ubuntu and got chatzilla
[08:32] <S1564> alright, also as far as the repository goes then what is that exactly, is just websites that tells the manager where to look for programs
[08:32] <Noobuntu> mek8630: yeah, cant I use a flash drive/usb though?
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> Noobuntu:  that is a #1 critical bit of info on any troubleshooting.
[08:32] <mek8630> Noobuntu: there is a way but I don't know how, I always use cd installation
[08:32] <Noobuntu> dr_willis: how do i find out from ubuntu then?
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> S1564:  no its a server with files.. not a 'web site'
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> Noobuntu:  lspci commahd should tell you the 'hardinfo' program may also tell you in a nicer gui
[08:33] <Noobuntu> just type lspci in terminal?
[08:33] <ruari> s1564: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> Noobuntu:  yes.. thats a common linux 'thing'
[08:33] <mek8630> Noobuntu: I have all kinds of problems with different programs working and drivers working with Ubuntu and Xubuntu, I switched to Linux Mint 9 to try and see if I liked it and now I LOVE it. I still use the others on a couple computers but I will be sticking with Mint from now on
[08:34] <Noobuntu> mek8630: I want to try but don't want to mess anything on my windows 7 up.
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> Noobuntu:  -> sudo apt-get install hardinfo  , then run 'hardinfo'   is a nice gui tool for a lot of system info
[08:35] <mek8630> Noobuntu: I know what you mean, the only way I could help you out with is the cd installation. I could walk you right through it. But if you are wanting to use usb then you will have to read forums and stuff to get help
[08:35] <S1564> alright Thanks ruari for the website
[08:35] <Colonel_panic> I still don't get it... where am I supposed to uncomment the line "devfs=mount"?
[08:36] <Noobuntu> mek8630: if it can't harm my comp then ill do it, but i'll need to be on windows. so, how about tomorrow? its 3 am here. lol.
[08:36] <Noobuntu> dr_willis: let me try that instead of lspci
[08:36] <leenuks> i am having trouble extracting multi-volume rar archive. if i choose "decompress here" i'll get a "format not supported" error. any idea why?
[08:36] <ruari> np :)
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> !info hardinfo
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> leenuks:  some rar archives  require tjhe non-free version of rar from the repos in order to be extracted.
[08:37] <Noobuntu> dr_willis: it says that i need my password, and doesnt let me type anything into it...
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> leenuks:  you may want to try extarcgint them from command line
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> Noobuntu:   it is typing things into it..
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> Noobuntu:  you dont want  Your password echoed.. logical eh?
[08:37] <leenuks> Dr_Willis, i would need a way to do it graphically.
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> leenuks:  You want to trouble shoot.. i suggest the shell...
[08:38] <mek8630> Noobuntu: haha yeah its 3:30am here too yeah I can help you if I am here but I don't get on the Ubuntu server very much.
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> leenuks:  or fire up package manager and see what other rar packages are in there. and try the nonfree rar packages.
[08:38] <Noobuntu> dr_willis: Huh? Heres what it says: [sudo] password for xxxx:
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> Noobuntu:  yes.. so type in your users password and hit enter
[08:38] <Noobuntu> mek8630: this is my first time ever trying irc, what about AIM or something
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> Noobuntu:  you DONT see the paassword or *'s echoed.
[08:38] <S1564> Thanks for all your Help guys, I'll try reading more up on it, & check back if I need any help ttyl
[08:39] <Noobuntu> dr_willis: OH, so im typing but it doesnt show it?
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> Noobuntu:  ive said that like 3 times now. :)
[08:39] <mek8630> Noobuntu: yeah when you type it in you can't see it just type it and hit enter
[08:39] <Noobuntu> dr_willis: you had to put it kindergarden-style :)
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> its 3 am . do you know where your password is.. :)
[08:39] <Noobuntu> lawl no im drunk in a sewer
[08:39] <Noobuntu> :o
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> Noobuntu:  you might want to spend the timne reading up on the ubuntu manual then. :)
[08:40] <Colonel_panic> anybody know where I set boot parameters?
[08:40] <leenuks> Dr_Willis, thanks, i'll see what i come up with.
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> biggest danger to a ubuntu system i find is users doing things.. err.. wrong
[08:40] <Noobuntu> dr_willis: if you were serious, yes i know my password.
[08:41] <jerry_> hi there it is  possible to lock home folder for all users and make password on that ?
[08:41] <Noobuntu> dr_willis: where can i find hardinfo? or should i run it through command line?
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> jerry_:  what are you trying to acomplish with thuis?
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> Noobuntu: 'sudo apt-get install hardinfo' will install it.
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> Noobuntu:  then run the command 'hardinfo'
[08:42] <Noobuntu> dr_willis: k
[08:42] <jerry_> dr_Wilis .....the thing is that kids was deleeted some files from my home folder i need it lock it down and make pass on that
[08:42] <cloversg> can anyone help me restore my screen resolution to 1680x1050.  Ub 10.04 started up and changed my monitor settings
[08:42] <ruari> could make a group and add a password to the group for /etc/home i think...
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> jerry_:  you left your system logged in and the kids got on the pc?
[08:43] <cloversg> I also cannot detect my monitor to reset the resolutions
[08:43] <anthony_> hi i what to learn on how make an ubuntu base distribution can any one help me.
[08:43] <Noobuntu> dr_willis: would it be the Display controller or the VGA compatible controller that is it?
[08:43] <jerry_> yap exactly
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> Noobuntu:  look at both.. vga proberly
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> jerry_:  time to set the screensaver back to lock the machine when you walk away im thinking.  Im not sure what else you are going to do.
[08:44] <Noobuntu> dr_willis: want me to type out exactly what it says?
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> Noobuntu:  look at it.. read it.. summaruze it..  think about what it says. :)
[08:44] <ruari> jerry: chmod 700 /home/username
[08:44] <delinquentme> hello all ... i think i've got a corrupted (few) file .. can i get a confirmation ? http://pastie.org/1020571
[08:45] <Noobuntu> dr_willis: Intel Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[08:45] <Noobuntu> mek8630: how should I find you tomorrow?
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> Noobuntu:   check out some of the other things in hardinfo and see if you can get any more info. at least you know its an Intel Mobil 4 now.
[08:45] <mek8630> Noobuntu: yeah I will meet you here
[08:46] <jerry_> DR-willis  i just have idea but im not sure if it can be done .....changing the  premisions orr installing some  clever app. which can make this orr i dont realy know ..you know if they go on internet wtching movies orr somethig between that they jumping everywhere but i dont have always time watching them and there we go
[08:46] <mek8630> Noobuntu: apparently you are on the same time zone so what you thinkin like 11pm or somethin or you want something sooner?
[08:46] <Noobuntu> mek8630: earlier in the day
[08:46] <NeoCicak> i'm using virtualbox 3.1.6 , and my guest OS (xp) keeps reporting different cpu speed ... what is worse... the speed is very slow (50MHz), even my host is 2GHz intel core 2 duo.... has anyone experienced this before?
[08:46] <cloversg> is anyone around to help me restore my monitor resolution settings?
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> jerry_:  its not very clear to me what you are wanting to do exactly.   There is the 'guest' account feature of ubuntu - you can use to let the kids get on and watch  cartoons.
[08:47] <mek8630> Noobuntu: I am going to send you private message
[08:47] <anthony_> hi i have a problem i what to practice php but php is not working on my computer can any one help me..
[08:47] <mek8630> Noobuntu: look for it over on the left under where it says Ubuntu
[08:47] <ruari> jerry: chmod 700 /home/jerry  would prevent other users from coming into your home directory
[08:47] <lance__> ciao a tutti quanti
[08:47] <rww> !it
[08:48] <Noobuntu> dr_willis: thats all i can seem to find, anywhere specific to look?
[08:49] <jerry_> DR_willis  sorry for bad explanation i just want my home folder on root password anytime i will open my account i want passw.on my home folder becouse of kids ... i dont have solution for that it is not the second time where  my files are gone -)))
[08:50] <Noobuntu> dr_willis: 4gb ram, intel 2.11 dual core processor
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> jerry_:  you allready have to enter your password when you login,   so you are sitting there reading email. save a file.. you wan tto have to enter the password anytime you do ANY change to any file in your home?
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> jerry_:  you get up to get a soda.. you can set the screensaver to lock automatically after 30 sec.. so you have to reenter your passwprd when you come back..  that keeps the kids off also.
[08:52] <jerry_> yes taht is exactly what i  want to do.....it is quiet crazy to lock screen orr use it xtrlock everytime i will go toilet  dont  you thing ;-)
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> Noobuntu:  not really. the intel video drivers are constantly being worked on. so its possible you are having some video card driver issues. YOu may want to check the ubuntu forums for intel video 4 also.
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> jerry_:   The screensaver can do this automatically.. or theres features where it can lock by just moving the mouse to a specific location.
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[08:53] <cloversg> can anyone help me change my lcd resolution?  I can't get my old resolution back
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> Cloversg: what video card?
[08:54] <jerry_> ok Thank you  wery much  i will try to do something
[08:54] <cloversg> internal ati radeon 4250 with hardware dirivers
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> !ati | cloversg
[08:55] <cloversg> my old monitor settings were 1600x1050, working yesterday, booted today and I can't get it back.
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> Cloversg: I believe ati use a gui thing like nvidia does
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> cloversg: what caused the sudden change? New kernel maybe?
[08:56] <cloversg> ActionParsnip, yes, I can access that, but on System>Preferences, can't change my LCD monitor to the higher resolutions
[08:57] <cloversg> ActionParsnip, don't know, just changed last night after reboot
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> Cloversg: check the factoid, there may be a command or 2 for you to run to make things nice
[08:57] <cloversg> ActionParsnip, as far as I know, I didn't update the kernal
[08:58] <cloversg> the binary drivers are working ok, its just the monitor settings, where do I change that? xserver-xorg?
[08:58] <Avasz> I want help in sharing internet... i have two pc.. one with wifi and one without.. i want to share the internet captured thru wifi to another pc.. how to do that?
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> !ics | avasz
[08:59] <NeoCicak> i'm using virtualbox 3.1.6 , and my guest OS (xp) keeps reporting different cpu speed ... what is worse... the speed is very slow (50MHz), even my host is 2GHz intel core 2 duo.... has anyone experienced this before?
[08:59] <Avasz> fire starter fails to start properly.. says: the device wlan0 is not ready even if i am connected right now thru wlan0
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> cloversg: you could remove the driver then reinstall it
[08:59] <cloversg> I used to be able
[08:59] <cloversg> ActionParsnip, did that already
[09:00] <cloversg> ActionParsnip, any way of setting the monitor resolution, trying it with xrandr
[09:00] <Avasz> and i have already followed the first method that the bot gave me... it didnt work.
[09:01] <cloversg> ActionParsnip, any prog to detect monitor settings?
[09:01] <Avasz> ActionParsnip, and I hav a spare router too.. i want to send the wifi to that router first...
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> cloversg: you could go old school and formulate an xorg.conf file
[09:01] <goshawk> cloversg, grand
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> Avasz: how do you mean send the wifi to that first?
[09:02] <cloversg> ActionParsnip, tried that too, changing xserver-xorg no effect
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> cloversg: you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:02] <cloversg> ActionParsnip, I'm now stuck with a resolution one down.  i remember I could detect my monitor from the menus, also there was a prog that did it
[09:03] <Avasz> ActionParsnip, i mean.. i capture wifi of my college thru the laptop with wifi.. and i want to share the wifi to the router thru ethernet cable first..
[09:03] <cloversg> ActionParsnip, yep, tried that and restarted gdm
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> Avasz: that will depend on the router itself. Some can't do that. I know some linksys ones can
[09:04] <anthony_> hi i have a problem how do you install php on ubuntu 10.04. can any one help me.
[09:04] <Avasz> ActionParsnip, its dlink one... so we may not be sure that it can do that?
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> !lamp | anthony_
[09:04] <cloversg> ActionParsnip, yep, tried that and forced the res, but noting happend
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> Avasz: there are special firmwares you can use to make the router act as a wireless bridge
[09:05] <wildbat> ubuntu don't give the option to suspend/sleep(it got hibernates thou) in the shutdown menu~ what should i do to enable it? 10.04, E6600, ASUS P5B
[09:05] <Wolverine1> is there a way to disable X to where once the computer turns on then its a command line to where you manually have to startx
[09:05] <Carsten^> Hello people.... I'm trying to remove a ppa from my system but its not in /etc/apt/sources.list is there any other way to remove it?
[09:05] <Avasz> ActionParsnip, ok.. if there is no router then can we do it or not?
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> Carsten^: in system -> admin -> software sources
[09:06] <szonek> hi
[09:06] <Wolverine1> I found X within my Filesystem but I cant modify it, as its running
[09:06] <Carsten^> ok sorry I should have specified.. I need to do this via command line.. no gui available.
[09:06] <anthony_> i already install lamp but when i try to display php on firefox it download it. it does not display it. can any one help me..
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> Avasz: then no, you will need a wired link to your router to share, or put 2 wireless interfaces in your pc and then you can do it that way
[09:07] <szonek> i have a problem installing 10.04 on fakeraid, i know this bug was fixed lately (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/grub-installer/+bug/568050), is there any ISO that integrates this fix?
[09:07] <cloversg> nope nothing works
[09:08] <neptune> ok guys the irc client i use sucks
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> neptune:  theres dozen+ others out there
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> Wolverine1:  disable the gdm service. and X wont start
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> Wolverine1:  unless you want to be a bit more clear in your needs.
[09:09] <neptune> there are little bugs everywhere with the new ubuntu
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> neptune:  there are little bugs everywhere in every os ive ever used.
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> since my Vic-20 on up..
[09:10]  * Dr_Willis shows his age.
[09:10] <szonek> i have a problem installing 10.04 on fakeraid, i know this bug was fixed lately (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/grub-installer/+bug/568050), is there any ISO that integrates this fix?
[09:10] <anthony_> i rely need help can any one help me i have a php problem. i already install lamp but still i can't display php on firefox. can any one help me. i rely need help so badly..
[09:11] <Wolverine1> I use to use vector linux where everytime, my pc would turn on then it would go to a command line user interface, I recently went to Ubuntu 8.10, so mainly just would like that to be back to how it use to be
[09:11] <raven> how to create a symlink to a smb directory?
[09:11] <Wolverine1> Dr willis as far as disabling the gdm service how about do you, do that
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> anthony_: I've heard this. There's a package you need but my web access is dog slow
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> !sysv | Wolverine1
[09:12] <xibalba> hey guys, do you know if it is possible to run X windows applications on your windows box via your server in a data center over ssh ?
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> szonek: the daily iso may do
[09:12] <xibalba> say gkrellm or msfgui for example?
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> Wolverine1:   check out the Sysv init system. I forget how you disable it in 8.10 - that is Old :) and ive not used it in years.
[09:12] <robotchickenparm> hi,,,  i set up a dual boot with windows xop and ubuntu lucid, but my only connection to the internet is through my Dlink DWL G132 wireless network adapterm so i cant even go online in linux to download the files..  could someone please tell me how to access files i have downloaded from windows while in ubunru?
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> xibalba:  with xming, you can sit on a windows mahcine.. ssh to a linux box.. and run a linux app and have it appear on the local windows machine.
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> robotchickenparm: mount the ntfs partition. The kernel can do this natively
[09:13] <Wolverine1> so just run man sysv init system and look it up
[09:13] <anthony_> ActionParsnip: what kind of a package i need to install to display php.
[09:13] <raven> how to create a symlink to a smb directory?
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> Wolverine1:  theres a service file in /etc/rc2.d i THINK that controlls gdm starting at boot..  but thats about all i rember
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> robotchickenparm: if you run: sudo lshw -C network ,you will see the product line identifying the wireless chip. The make and model of the device is fairly moot
[09:14] <robotchickenparm> ActionParsnip:  could you tell me how to do that?  ive never run a dual boot before the last hour
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> raven:  you dont link to somthing thats smb://server/share  ..but  You could mount the smb share via fstab to a set location, and link to that.
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> anthony_: its an extra package from the repo to make it display rather than download
[09:14] <Wolverine1> ok, I tried using Ubuntu 10 or 9.04 but found that my sound stopped working after a bit so went a little older
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> robotchickenparm: run: sudo fdisk -l
[09:14] <szonek> ActionParsnip: only Daily Build i can find is for 10.10
[09:15] <Wolverine1> do you know if they fixed that bug in the newer versionz
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> raven:  also if you are browsing the share with nautilus it may have a mountpoint set in  the users .gvfs directory soemwhere
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> Wolverine1:  given how vague the data you just gave is.. no one has any idea. :)
[09:15] <robotchickenparm> so when in windows should i move the file from myc:\ documents and setings/downloads to the c folder or somthing?
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> Wolverine1:  get a 10.04 live cd and test it out
[09:15] <anthony_> ActionParsnip: yes i know that it is a package but what is the name of that package.
[09:15] <robotchickenparm> or do i not need to do that at all
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> robotchickenparm: it will list the partitions. You can then run: sudo mkdir /media/win; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/win -o uid=1000,user
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> anthony_: like I said. I can't find it and my web is too slow. Didn't you read?
[09:16] <cloversg> ActionParsnip, Solution found using xrandr
[09:16] <raven> Dr_Willis, mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on smb://192.168
[09:16] <Avasz> so.. if the router supports then how to share the internet?
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> robotchickenparm: replace sda1 with YOUR partition name
[09:16] <cloversg> ActionParsnip,  the link I followed is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1474910
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> raven:  you need to use proper ooptions when mounting a samba share.
[09:16] <Carsten^> Second try: I need to remove a ppa via command line as there is no gui available. the program ppa-purge did not work for me, are there any other options, or files I can edit? There is no ppa's in sources.list
[09:16] <robotchickenparm> kk..  thanks...   im gonna go try everything u just told me, and hopefully the next time i am in this room i will be using ubuntu!  but if not can i come back for more help?
[09:16] <anthony_> ok. so i need to search it on the web.
[09:16] <raven> Dr_Willis, which options?
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> raven:   the use of 'smb://' is  ONLY used by the gnome file manager and some otehr gnome apps.
[09:16] <wise_crypt> !ics | Avasz
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> !samba | raven
[09:17] <Wolverine1> I tested it out and installed it once, & I found that after a couple of weeks of having Ubunt 10 install I found that my sound quit working
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> cloversg: wtg =D personally I only buy nvidia as their support has been phenominal since I've used linux
[09:17] <Wolverine1> just wondered if that was fixed
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> Wolverine1:  theres kernel and otehr updates every week or so. so its possible it was fixed..
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> Szonek: you could make a custom iso using remastersys and apply the fix etc
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> works -> updates -> breaks -> more updates -> fixed it..  (is common)
[09:18] <raven> Dr_Willis, only possible to mount with fstab? no way to mount manually with "mount"?
[09:18] <cloversg> ActionParsnip, had problems with nvidia on my old board, this is a new one using the AMD HexCore with ATI Rad 4250, no problems with the drivers and progs (unlike nVidia)
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> raven:  fstab and mount do the same things.. use mount if you want.
[09:19] <cloversg> it was the monitor resolutions that was killing me
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> !info smbfs | raven
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> raven:  install that first and use smbmount if you want
[09:19] <Wolverine1> its cool I give it another try, but as far as ubuntu 10.4 goes then would you know how to disable X or is it pretty much the same as you described early
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> Wolverine1:   disable the gdm service. or use the new 'text' option to the kernel/grub
[09:20] <alkisg> iptraf => "this program requires to be run by an administrator"
[09:20] <alkisg> sudo chmod +s /usr/sbin/iptraf
[09:20] <alkisg> iptraf => "this program requires to be run by an administrator". Just wondering, shouldn't that sudo +s make it run as root?
[09:20] <Sarmad> Hi anybody there for a little help. I have a very general question
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> Wolverine1:  in 10.04 its /etc/init/gdm.conf you rename to disable gdm
[09:20] <robotchickenparm> sudo lshw -c network?
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> !ask | Sarmad
[09:20] <wise_crypt> alkisg: sudo iptraf ?
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> robotchickenparm: the c is capitalised
[09:20] <alkisg> wise_crypt: shouldn't setting the suid bit make sudo not needed?
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> robotchickenparm: linux is VERY case sensitive
[09:21] <robotchickenparm> and also, whayt will sudo fdisk -1 do?
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> Instead of Slightly Case Sensitive? :)
[09:21] <robotchickenparm> lol
[09:21] <raven> Dr_Willis,  ok tnx
[09:21] <robotchickenparm> thatnks for all the help guys...
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> robotchickenparm: its an L for list to list partitions, like I said
[09:21] <wise_crypt> alkisg: i dont want to show you how its bit dangerous
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> !mount | robotchickenparm
[09:21] <robotchickenparm> this is a great community....   way better than microsoft and dell where your warentyu runs out and you are just S.O.L
[09:22] <xibalba> bitchin i found cyhwin had x11 server for win32
[09:22] <slide> Where can I find out how to create a new ext4 partition on a blank/new harddrive via command line?
[09:22] <alkisg> wise_crypt: I'm trying to understand the suid bit better, don't worry, i know about the security implications. I just can't get it to work as advertised.
[09:22]  * xibalba very excited
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> xibalba:  i found 'xming' worked better for me then cygwin
[09:22] <xibalba> website?
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> xibalba:  do i look like google? :)
[09:22] <xibalba> =P
[09:22] <Carsten^> third try: I need to remove a ppa via command line as there is no gui available. the program ppa-purge did not work for me, are there any other options, or files I can edit? There is no ppa's in sources.list
[09:22] <wise_crypt> alkisg: sorry just try googling about sudoers thing that all i can give you
[09:22] <xibalba> was cygwin's buggy or just slow?
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> xming is a X server for windows.. cygwin is much 'more'
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> cygwin was buggy/slow and last i checked.. not updated in a LONG time
[09:23] <Wolverine1> Thanks Dr.
[09:23] <Sarmad> Question: I used to request free CDs and distribute them mostly to computer professional who haven't tried Ubuntu before. Now I can see "becoming an Ubuntu member by contributing to Ubuntu, and thereby becoming eligible for more CDs". Kindly tell me how I can contribute and how eligibility process works?
[09:23] <alkisg> wise_crypt: I've done it with sudo visudo, I just wanted to learn about the suid bit, i.e. why chmod +s isn't doing what I think it should be doing. Thanks though.
[09:23] <xibalba> yeah. i just want an x11 win32 serv, this looks gret.
[09:23] <xibalba> great
[09:23] <cloversg> thanks people
[09:23] <wise_crypt> alkisg:  :|
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> xming has a nice little wizard where you enter the info and it can make a 'xterm' or whtever icon on your windows desktop to launch a terminal on the linux box :)
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> You can even set it up where putty works with it.
[09:24] <xibalba> does it do the port forwarding or do i need to have putty running?
[09:24] <slide> How do I create a new ext4 partition on a new empty harddrive?
[09:24] <robotchickenparm> o one more question b4 i leave...   would it be unwise to load the full gnome ubuntu for my xbox?  because i lkle gnome waay better than xfce and kde
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> xming has its own mini putty it can use.. or you can use your other putty also
[09:24] <xibalba> bitchin this looks sweet, many thanks.
[09:24] <Slart> slide: use gparted.. it's got a nice gui where you can just click on hard drives and stuff
[09:25] <Sarmad> Can somebody please reply to my posted query above?
[09:25] <alkisg> wise_crypt: maybe it's setting the effective uid, but not the real uid, and iptraf checks for the real uid (so it would work if iptraf was checking for the effective uid instead).
[09:25] <slide> Slart, this is on a server install
[09:25] <wise_crypt> alkisg: i dont know bu my iptraf works just fine with sudo iptraf :|
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> Sarmad:  i would have to say check the ubuntu web site and forums. for that. or the #ubuntu-motu channel
[09:25] <Slart> slide: oh.. then there's parted, the non-gui variant of the same app
[09:26] <slide> ah thanks
[09:26] <ohir> Sarmad: don't know how it looks now, but some time ago eglibility was measured in events
[09:26] <alkisg> wise_crypt: Thanks - the point was not to use sudo.
[09:27] <Avasz> well.. the !ics didnt work..
[09:27] <Slart> !ics
[09:27] <wise_crypt> alkisg as i point you it on your sudoers file just google more thats it
[09:27] <ohir> Sarmad: if you are active in your LUG, if you can show you are known to local community it worked
[09:27] <hugli> how can I reuse my 'home' partition with fresh 10.4 install?
[09:28] <alkisg> wise_crypt: I don't need to google for the sudoers file as I said I already done it this way... It's the suid bit that's puzzling me. OK, I think we both know now what the other is saying. Thanks again.
[09:28] <Sarmad> ohir: actually the only way I have so to speak "contributed" is to use ubuntu as much as possible and tried to distribute it as much as possible which I feel is not enough to make me eligible right?
[09:29] <Avasz> i guess because i have one router in-betweet the two machines..
[09:30] <airtonix> hugli, most reliable way to do that is to have planned ahead and made a separate partition for your home folders.
[09:30] <ryan__> halp
[09:30] <Carsten^> I need to remove a ppa via command line as there is no gui available. the program ppa-purge did not work for me, are there any other options, or files I can edit? There is no ppa's in sources.list
[09:30] <ryan__> i want more multi touch features
[09:31] <airtonix> Carsten^, its a separate file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[09:31] <Carsten^> thank you airtonix.
[09:32] <ryan__> i can navigate forward and backward with 3 finger swipe in windows, can it work in linux?
[09:32] <airtonix> Carsten^, depending on what you installed you could just "apt-get remove" the package and remove the source.list file with System > Administration > Software Sources
[09:32] <Carsten^> I need to totally remove them, broken repo's
[09:33] <airtonix> Carsten^, what did you install ?
[09:33] <_ath> To those with ati driver experience, please have a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1518556
[09:33] <Carsten^> cherokee webserver but i stuffed it up when adding.
[09:33] <hugli> airtonix: that's where I am. I have my users on a separate partition. The question is how to use it when reinstalling ubuntu from scratch
[09:34] <airtonix> _ath, most people "get past" this problem by never buying ati cards ever again.
[09:34] <wise_cry1t> airtonix: or intel
[09:34] <airtonix> hugli, when reinstalling, use manual partitioning and simply reassign the relevant partition to /home without formatting it.
[09:35] <anthony__> hi guys i have a problem how can you port C progamming to edit the source code. like tuxmath program. can any one help me.
[09:35] <airtonix> _ath, i guarantee you that will end up being the easiest and fastest option that produces the more reliable and desirable results.
[09:35] <choppa> hello, i've installed kubuntu on some toshiba laptop, but the wired network card has not been detected, what can i do?
[09:36] <ace_> I have an ati card and am using the standard ubuntu driver for it.  Does that mean I don't use all its capabilities?
[09:36] <airtonix> hugli, make sure you specify the filesystem type that it actually has too.
[09:36] <ace_> choppa I think I saw support for wireless cards in Ubuntu software center once
[09:36] <iceroot> ace_: the opensource-driver cant handle 3d if i am correct
[09:36] <ace_> hmm ok iceroot ty
[09:37] <benpro> Is there a way to reverse a rm -rf ?
[09:37] <hugli> airtonix: Will the installer sort UIDs and usernames for me? Or will I have to create all my users in exactly the same order as on the old system?
[09:37] <_ath> airtonix: i can imagine that being the case, but there must be some way.
[09:37] <airtonix> hugli, you still need to make the users again in the right order. so do something about backing up your user and passwords file for reference.
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> !undelete | benpro
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> benpro:  good luck.. what did you delete?
[09:38] <airtonix> _ath, there might be but its beyond the level of patience of anyone i've read about.
[09:39] <iceroot> benpro: have a look at libtrash in the future, itsa trash for the shell working on top of the unlink-function
[09:39] <benpro> Dr_Willis:  Juste a ton of mp3 with a bad find
[09:39] <benpro> find ./ -size +10M -exec rm \-rf '{}' \;
[09:39] <benpro>  while I wanted +100M ><
[09:39] <guven> hey there
[09:40] <benpro> dman
[09:40] <benpro> damn
[09:40] <ace_> anybody know why when I compile gimp 2.6.9 on my 32 bit ubuntu it works but doesn't work when I compile it on my 64 bit ubuntu?
[09:40] <_ath> airtonix: still, i struggle to believe there isn't one person with my card who's got it working on *ubuntu 10.04
[09:40] <ikonia> ace_: that's pretty open question
[09:40] <ikonia> ace_: do you mean it won't compile on 64bit, or it will compile, but won't run on 64bit
[09:41] <airtonix> _ath, thats not what i said.
[09:41] <ace_> compiles but doesn't run on 64 bit
[09:41] <ikonia> ace_: what happens when you try to run it
[09:41] <ace_> I am having trouble exporting the library path for its shared libraries
[09:41] <ikonia> ace_: what happens when you try to run it
[09:41] <hugli> airtonix: thank you. Where is users and passwords file in ubuntu 9.09?
[09:41] <_ath> hugli: /etc/passwd ?
[09:41] <ace_> when I try to run it from terminal it says it can't find one of the shared libraries
[09:42] <ikonia> hugli: /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
[09:42] <ace_> when I run it from the menu it just hangs then stops
[09:42] <ikonia> ace_: and which library and where is it looking
[09:42] <_ath> airtonix: what did i misunderstand?
[09:42] <iceroot> hugli: dont edit these files (if you dont know what your a doing)
[09:42] <delinquentme> im trying to figure out if this is telling me my ruby installation is corrupted: http://pastie.org/1020625
[09:42] <ace_> it is looking in /usr/local/lib and all the libraries are there
[09:43] <ace_> looking for some gimpwidget librarie
[09:43] <ace_> it is suppose to look in /usr/local/lib I mean
[09:43] <ikonia> ace_: where is it looking ?
[09:43] <hugli> _ath ikonia iceberg: thank you
[09:43] <airtonix> _ath, i did not say there was no-one. what i was pointing at was that you are better off subscribing to your forum post and watching it once a week. you wont fix this in a short time.
[09:43] <ace_> it is just saying that the librarie is not found
[09:44] <ikonia> ace_: run ldd against it and see where it actually looking/expecting libraries
[09:44] <ace_> ldd?
[09:44] <ace_> sorry I'm new to linux
[09:44] <_ath> airtonix: trying some older driver versions now, we'll see.
[09:44] <ikonia> ace_: then why are you custom compiling software if you are new ?
[09:44] <ikonia> ace_: what's wrong with the versions in the repo ?
[09:44] <airtonix> _ath you find very few people with ati cards in linux who know exactly what to do because most people just stop using ati and use nvidia isntead.
[09:45] <ace_> I'm not a new programmer and it is a good learning experience
[09:45] <ikonia> ace_: ok - so run ldd against gimp
[09:45] <_ath> airtonix: yeah it's been like that for a long time i remember.
[09:45] <_ath> airtonix: but i got all excited when ati started releasing proprietary drivers in tandem with ubuntu releases.
[09:45] <ace_> version's in repo are a a bit behind
[09:45] <ikonia> ace_: what's in the new version of gimp that's not in the one in the repo ?
[09:45] <ace_> ok I will research that ikonia and figure it out thanks
[09:46] <ace_> nothing much just some bug fixes and the likes
[09:46] <guven> does asterisk support referring to outbound ? I mean referring through a proxy,is it possible or can i just refer to someone without going to proxy server
[09:46] <eor76> hello everyone
[09:46] <ikonia> ace_: such as ?
[09:46] <airtonix> _ath, but not only do you need to find someone with ati experience, you need to find someone who knows your card... from my experience with the different models of ati cards they may as well be different brands .
[09:46] <ikonia> ace_: for you to go to the effort of all this, there must be something in the version you want/need other than a bigger version number and "it's the latest"
[09:46] <_ath> airtonix: true.
[09:46] <ace_> sorry ikonia I didn't memorize the release notes but I could look it up for you
[09:46] <wise_cry1t> _ath: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:47] <ace_> oh well I am trying to write a plugin for gimp and I figured compiling it was the best way to get the lay of the land
[09:48] <ace_> I started on gimp on the windows side and it has led me to the wonderful world of unix
[09:48] <_ath> wise_cry1t: i know how to install / uninstall packages, thanks.
[09:48] <avi_> wow
[09:49] <wise_cry1t> ace_: vbox it then
[09:49] <veonone> i dont have access to the /dev/sdX folders
[09:49] <wise_cry1t> _ath: just a sugestion
[09:49] <ace_> so can i ask one more question? what does ldd stand for?
[09:49] <ace_> i'm not up on all the linux jargon wise
[09:49] <ezech> hello, I need some easy to use foto browsing/edition software, simmilar to irfanview :)
[09:50] <freddy_> hmm
[09:50] <avi_> ezech, F-Spot?
[09:50] <ezech> google simply returns too many results, I need something you use and know it works
[09:50] <avi_> GIMP, F-Spot
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> ezech:  use the package manager to search to see whats in the repos.
[09:51] <ace_> I'll be back in a bit ... switching to another os to back it up will you join you there
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> fspot works.. irfanview can work in wine also. :)
[09:51] <ezech> what I want to do is browse pictures (obviously) and do some simple edits, like crop, change saturation/contrast, make greyscale
[09:51] <vu1kan> ezech sounds like f-spot would do ya
[09:51] <slide> I can't seem to get the correct syntax for my fstab to set this drive to force all files to nobody/nogroup ownership, "/dev/sdc1       /mnt/1.36TiB-03 ext4    defaults,errors=remount-ro,uid=nobody,gid=nobody        0       0" whats wrong?
[09:52] <iceman_3233> Failed to download repository information
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> slide:  for starters uid and gid use a NUMBER not a 'name'
[09:52] <slide> Dr_Willis, i tried the number too, didnt work
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> slide:  and for linux filesystems. You dont just 'override' the permissions/ownership with a mount option.. at least ive never seen it done that way
[09:53] <freddy_> exit
[09:53] <freddy_> us
[09:53] <slide> Dr_Willis, this is for a drive being shared over samba
[09:54] <wildbat> slide, you can just change the permission of the files with chmod, it is ext4 you are mounting
[09:54] <delinquentme> [Ynaqdh] is what
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> slide:    samba shares have options you can set also to override  the 'permissions/ownership' to some degree. but what you are doing via that fstab line. I dont think will work
[09:54] <delinquentme> theres a Yes and a now ... wtf are the others
[09:54] <slide> wildbat, yea but thats f'ing annoying....... any time i copy files locally to the shared folders i have to sudo chown the files....
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> slide:  you mean from windows to the share? or from linux to the shared mountpoint?
[09:55] <Leparradiss> server irc.epiknet.com
[09:56] <slide> from linux to the shared mountpoint via a local user, the file ends up with their permissions and then anyone accessing the share can't edit the files
[09:56] <ezech> f-spot looks nice, it depends on mono, and gtk-sharp - yuck :/
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> ezech:  yep. one reason i dont like it.
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> ezech:  check package manager for other tools you may like.
[09:57] <foobazbar> hello this grub2 scripted thing is exciting
[09:57] <foobazbar> it auto-detects a partition as xp/nt/2000, but it's a recovery partition
[09:58] <ezech> Dr_Willis: I just thought that asking will be faster than checking one by one all the stuff thats in repo :)
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17787/clean-up-the-new-ubuntu-grub2-boot-menu/
[09:59] <foobazbar> is there a simple way to override the title for an auto-discovered boot entry?
[09:59] <foobazbar> oh thanks
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> ezech:  apt-cache search 'viewer' | grep image
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> ezech:  you may find somthing that no one in here has ever used.
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | foobazbar
[10:00] <wise_cry1t> !info startupmanager | foobazbar
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> !info qiv
[10:03] <downstream> Dr_Willis: i recommend feh
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> I tend to just use the thumbnail previews in nautilus :)
[10:03] <ace_> hi again all. What does ldd stand for again?
[10:03] <downstream> if that's sufficient, sure
[10:04] <ikonia> ace_: check the man page
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> ldd - print shared library dependencies
[10:04] <ace_> ahh thank ikonia
[10:04] <downstream> feh is just my fave "quick image viewer"
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> perhaps it means 'ld' debuger
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> or ld dependcnciethinggie
[10:05] <ace_> library default detection
[10:05] <ace_> just a guess:)
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> Lonely Dyslixic Dogs/
[10:06] <ikonia> it doesn't have to stand for anything
[10:06] <airdem> how an i autostart xcompmgr?
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> ikonia:  i was trying to find words for L D D that say that.. :)
[10:06] <ace_> print shared librarie dependicies
[10:06] <airdem> *can
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> Ldd Dosent Define
[10:06] <wise_cry1t> airdem: in what DE ?
[10:06] <airdem> lxde
[10:06] <hotfloppy> guys, i've downloaded thunderbird-3.1 tarball, extract it, execute it and the Display or Run dialog box pop up.. is it possible to execute without the pop up ?
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> !info xcompmgr
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> can that even work with openbox?
[10:07] <airdem> yes
[10:07] <foobazbar> Dr_Willis thanks for the automated links, but they don't solve my problem.
[10:07] <foobazbar>  is there a simple way to override the title for an auto-discovered boot entry?
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> I recall fluxbox habing some Autostart dir/file.. but no idea on lubuntu/lxde
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> foobazbar:  theres some forum theres/links in there that mention editing the /etc/grub.d/ file. thats what you ahve to change.
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> foobazbar:  be sure to make backups.
[10:08] <wise_cry1t> airdem: make it a *,desktop file and place it at your ~/.lxde/autostart folder (sorry i forget the exact path)
[10:08] <foobazbar> as far as I can see, I'd have to remove os_prober altogether and replace it with multiple hard-coded entries.
[10:08] <wise_cry1t> *.desktop
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> foobazbar:  also check out http://delicious.com/dr_willis/grub2  for my other links to grub2 info
[10:08] <foobazbar> This seems a little heavy-handed to me.
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> foobazbar:  or edit the file  and make it not show the info/comment out. or add some extra code.. yes.. it is a pain.
[10:09] <ace_> does ubuntu use grub?
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> ace_:  yes.
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> Most disrots use grub these days.
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> Distros. :)
[10:09] <ace_> it didn't look like it to me
[10:09] <vu1kan> foobazbar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 the grub2 guide
[10:09] <ace_> had search and stuff I didn't read about
[10:10] <ace_> thanks vulcan
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> ace_:  be more clear in what you mean.
[10:10] <ace_> well I have fedora and I was researched grub. It seemed to match what I was reading.
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> There is Grub and 'Grub2' now  :)
[10:11] <erdem_rt> hi
[10:11] <ace_> but when I looked at ubuntu bootloader it seemed quiete different
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> old grub is now known as 'grub-legacy' i recall
[10:11] <ace_> yea must be grub2
[10:11] <foobazbar> there's a link there that shows what to change in the script, thanks.  glad to see other people agree that it's a pain :)
[10:11] <vodl> Dr_Willis is ubuntu 10 stable? I'm looking to upgrade from 8.04
[10:11] <foobazbar> cheers
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> vodl:  it works fine forme on my 4 pc's
[10:11] <erdem_rt> i install ndiswrapper and then i unistalled it :)  now i wanna use my opensource wireless driver again.  how could i ?
[10:11] <wise_cry1t> foobazbar: its not if you use startupmanager
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> vodl:  it works fine for most people i imagine
[10:12] <vodl> Dr_Willis oh alright, just wondered if it wasn't still in alpha or something
[10:12] <stefg> Hi, i managed to set up booting a lucid live CD over the network (PXE/tftp). The only problem remaining is telling the bootloader (pxelinux/syslinux, NOT grub2) i want the live CD booted in german (and german keyboard). Since the live CD booting process changed completly in Lucid i am unable to find info on that by google.  Can anyone shed some light on this?
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> vodl:  err.. its been released now for some time.
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> !schedule | vodl
[10:13] <Dr_Willis> vodl:  10.10 is in the alpha stages.
[10:13] <vodl> Dr_Willis sorru, haven't been up-to-date :)
[10:13] <bboy> which player are you using ??
[10:13] <foobazbar> wise_cry1t I sintalled startup manager and it won't let you change the name of discovered entries.
[10:13] <airdem> are there any .desktop skels?
[10:13] <Dr_Willis> bboy:  be more clear.
[10:14] <vodl> Dr_Willis thanks for the insight, going to try and do an update from 8.04 and see how much that messes up my desktop :P
[10:14] <wise_cry1t> foobazbar: sudo startup manager
[10:14] <Dr_Willis> airdem:  you can use most any .desktop file as an example.
[10:14] <wise_cry1t> foobazbar: sudo startupmanager
[10:14] <Avasz> how to bridge ethernet & wifi?
[10:14] <Dr_Willis> vodl:  i always do clean installs. :) just makes it easier.
[10:14] <wise_cry1t> foobazbar: it can in here http://a3snet.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/screenshot.png
[10:14] <bboy> i mean which media player ,are you using ?
[10:14] <foobazbar> wise_cry1t I sintalled *and used* startup manager and it won't let you change the name of discovered entries.
[10:14] <bboy> totem or mplayer?
[10:15] <ace_> What's the best way to make a startup CD disk for Ubuntu? It seems to want to use a flash drive.
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> bboy:  or vlc, or xbmc, or moovidia, or enna, or boxxee... :) it depends on your needs.
[10:15] <wise_cry1t> foobazbar: the entries should have been if it detected by update-grub
[10:15] <vu1kan> bboy i prefer vlc player, myself. compatable with almost every codec out there
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> ace_:  the startup-disk-creator is designed to use a flash drive.
[10:15] <bboy> thanks
[10:15] <bboy> !!
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> ace_:  it gerenates a live-cd on a flash drive setup.
[10:16] <foobazbar> they are listed
[10:16] <ace_> seems like a waste of a flash drive but ok
[10:16] <foobazbar> but you can't change what they are called
[10:16] <Dr_Willis> ace_:  I never burn to cd's i always use flash drives to install from. they are much faster.
[10:16] <wise_cry1t> foobazbar: just change the default operating system then
[10:16] <vodl> Dr_Willis can you please point me to how to boot 10.4 from a usb stick?
[10:16] <ace_> I like to keep them on file... but then I used to use tapes way back then
[10:16] <vu1kan> foobazbar i think step # 6 in that guide i posted will tell you how to do that
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> vodl:  get iso file.. run the usb-disk-creator tool.. make a flash drive.. plug it in.. reboot machine.. tell it to boot from flash drive..
[10:17] <ace_> ok
[10:17] <foobazbar> wise changing the default is NOT RELEVANT:   is there a simple way to *override the title for an auto-discovered boot entry?*  That is no
[10:17] <vodl> Dr_Willis thanks, is the usb-disk-creator in the repos?
[10:17] <ace_> still seems like it could get expensive running 3 unixes
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> vodl:  its installed by default
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> vodl:  in the admin menu. Or use unetbootin
[10:17] <vodl> Dr_Willis arigato :)
[10:18] <Dr_Willis> ace_:  I got a 8gb flash drive setup to boot 10 different iso files. :)
[10:18] <vodl> Dr_Willis that's crazy :))
[10:18]  * Dr_Willis found 2GB flash drives for under $5 last xmas
[10:18] <ace_> oh how do you know which iso to select?
[10:18] <Dr_Willis> ace_:  err.. i read the menu and pick the one i want.. how else?
[10:18] <wise_cry1t> foobazbar: are you sure its listed in the grub entries ?
[10:19] <ace_> ok doc
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> grub2 booting iso files = handy feature
[10:19] <wise_cry1t> foobazbar: try to reboot if it there ?
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> I can even put an iso file in /boot/ and have a grub entry as a 'rescue' option
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> and bioot the iso from teh hd.
[10:19] <erdem_rt> i installed ndiswrapper and then i unistalled it :)  now i wanna use my opensource wireless driver again.  how could i ? ?
[10:20] <ace_> take care all my gf want to play second life now
[10:20] <ace_> see ya later
[10:20] <wise_cry1t> foobazbar: i have change tree kernel and changing the default entries using this method and it works just fine in my box
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> startupmanager has limited features for grub2 configuration.. its has more features for 'grub1'
[10:22] <vodl> Dr_Willis can't find the tool on my system
[10:22] <wise_cry1t> Dr_Willis: not really i change my default entries splash unsplash change the default resolutions and it work with my grub2
[10:23] <vodl> Dr_Willis: perhaps not installed on 8.04?
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> wise_cry1t:  last i checked it couldent change the names...
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> vodl:  what tool are you even talkling about? I dont use 8.04
[10:23] <vodl> Dr_Willis: usb disk creator
[10:23] <wise_cry1t> Dr_Willis: not to that offcourse but changing the default works
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> vodl:  no idea. guess its not there. try unnetbootin
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> vodl:  you may need to get it from the unetbootin homepage
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> wise_cry1t:  ive had that tool also 'break' my grub configs. :) and had to fix them by hand
[10:25] <vodl> Dr_Willis thanks again :)
[10:26] <wise_cry1t> Dr_Willis: it on repositry list i thing thats a save tool to use, but hey tools are just tools it depends on whom it works for , right ? :)
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> wise_cry1t:  just because its in the repos dosent mean its 'safe' :)
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> it  is in need of serious updateing. So does the computer-janitor tool
[10:27] <wise_cry1t> Dr_Willis: you have to say that to the dev then :)
[10:27] <choppa> hi, i've just installed kubuntu 10.04 but my wired network card (interface eth0) is not detected; also i don't have a /boot/grub/menu.lst but i don't know if that's the problem
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> wise_cry1t:  its been said.
[10:27] <hannes815> hay. I got an urgent problem. I'm trying to do a presentation with impress and I would like to run some animations (several text's) an at the same time an mp3 file in the back.. does someone know how to do that?
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | choppa
[10:28] <gryllida> choppa: that file is not the problem; what is the card model?
[10:29] <choppa> gryllida: how can i know? lspci?
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> !info hardinfo
[10:30] <nixjr> im having flickering issues when i watch videos in full screen, can anyone help?
[10:30] <choppa> (sorry disconnections :/)
[10:30] <gryllida> !lspci
[10:30] <gryllida> what is lspci?
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> nixjr:  video card is ?
[10:30] <wise_cry1t> !info lshw > gryllida
[10:31] <nixjr> Dr_Willis, geforce 9800gt
[10:31] <gryllida> wise_cry1t: so you mean I can try "man lshw" or what?
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> nixjr:  you mean video 'tearing' issues? theres a enable vsync type setting in compiz if you are using compiz. also some players have a few otehr tweaks to reducd tearing.
[10:33] <wise_cry1t> gryllida : lshw (list hardware) lspci (list all connected pci divice)
[10:33] <wise_cry1t> *device
[10:33] <nixjr> Dr_Willis, im not sure what tearing is exactly, but theyre unpredictable horizontal line flickers
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> thats tearing
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> its where the frames dont match up with the sync rates of the monitor
[10:34] <nixjr> Dr_Willis, alright, ill check in compiz
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_tearing
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> nixjr:  nvidia-settings tool also has a check bos that may reduce it
[10:35] <vu1kan> so, when do y'all think we'll see the latest firefox update come through the repos?
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> Im so used to seeing tears i rarely even notice them any more
[10:37] <airdem> how can i change the hostname that is displayed in console prompt -> username@hostname
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> airdem:  you want to Change your hostname? or change the Prompt?
[10:38] <airdem> Dr_Willis, if ichange the name in /etc/hosts will the prompt change too?
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> airdem:  err.. of course.. its showing the current HOST.
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> airdem:  unless you want to not see it at all.
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> the prompt can be set tio show all sorts of system information
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> airdem:  you want a differnt hostname for the pc? or you want a differnt prompt? thats the question. :)
[10:40] <airdem> hehehe well both
[10:40] <Avasz> is there alternative to firestarter?
[10:40] <airdem> ive edited the hosts file, i think that shoulddo the job, thank you
[10:41] <airdem> "Downloading 4 of 1 in Inbox" ... nice thunderbird nice
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> airdem:  No it wont..
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> !hostname
[10:42] <airdem> thank you very much
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> i always set mine at install :)
[10:43] <airdem> yeah i just used the autosetting and it resulted in username@username-desktop now its username@desktop
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> such an original hostname :)
[10:44] <airdem> indeed :)
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> Stick a big Pink hello kitty sticker on the box and name it 'Kitty'
[10:46] <airdem> i would prefer http://tinyurl.com/2cvz4tc
[10:47] <airdem> reboot... bye :)
[10:49] <abhi_nav> hi
[10:52] <cesc> Hi there. I have an issue with wireless connection signal. Ubuntu says the connection has droped and opens a new window to connect again, but the problem is in a false drop. I keep connected all the time. Does anyone have experienced the same with ubuntu 10.4?
[10:53] <neptune> is there a way to make the top row of the window, in the newest verstion of Ubuntu, disappear? I want the close, minimize and maximize buttons to the right
[10:54] <silv3r_m00n> I downloaded adobe acrobat reader , where should I install it ? in /opt or /home ?
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> silv3r_m00n:  want all users to access it.. /opt
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> but i thought it was in the package manager/repos somewhere
[10:55] <silv3r_m00n> no it isn't
[10:56] <laeg> !graphics
[10:57] <blackbite> hi . I have a problem after last update on ubuntu 10.4 after reboot i can log in gnome sesion. Automaticaly i log in , in a X sesion, but first gnome was my default sesion ! Can someone help me !
[10:57] <meowbuntu> hi how do i mount a ntfs partition in /Windows
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> blackbite:   You mean you want to auto login to a differnt session now?
[10:57] <laeg> just upgraded to 10.04 - can i put close and minimize back on the right hand side of windows?
[10:58] <blackbite> yes
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:   You mean mount it TO /Windoes?
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> blackbite:  log out. change the session, log back in
[10:58] <stefg> meowbuntu: permanent or just temporarily?
[10:58] <blackbite> i dont have that option
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> blackbite:  i always set a 10 sec delay on the auto login stuff.
[10:58] <blackbite> but first it was
[10:58] <thelostone> hello
[10:58] <Dr_Willis>  its done via the gdm menus blackbite, You mean to say theres no OTHER sessions in the gdm menus?
[10:59] <blackbite> i have just x sesion
[10:59] <thelostone> would this be the area to ask how to get proftpd to work?
[10:59] <aussie114> hey, sometimes when I boot up my ubuntu laptop, all the windows have no title bar. File, View, Edit ECT.... menus are there, I know reinstalling Ubuntu will fix the issue but I was wondering if any one knew the source of this issue?
[10:59] <thelostone> cause im having lots of problems with it
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> blackbite:  thats weird.  You may want to disable the auto login stuff for now.
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> thelostone:  here and teh programs homepage/docs (which may be better)
[10:59] <smerdykov> quit
[11:00] <stefg> thelostone: there's #ubuntu-server as well but ask here anyway
[11:01] <blackbite> i know that is wierd but first i logged in normaly after update and reboot automaticaly i logged in in a X session
[11:02] <meowbuntu> stefg: permintally i want to use the windows partition also as a shared data partition
[11:03] <stefg> meowbuntu:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> ntfs-3g for fun and proffie
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> ntfs-3g for fun and profit
[11:03] <stefg> meowbuntu: so you have to edit /etc/fstab
[11:03] <blackbite> after logged out via gdm is no option for gnome session or Kde session
[11:04] <nixjr> all my data drives are ntfs, is there any advantage to changing them to ext4 or someting native to ubuntu?
[11:04] <stefg> meowbuntu: but ntfs for a shared data partition is somewhat problematic... (Linux can't do fsck'S on NTFS). I use an ext2 partition and the ext2 filesystem driver for Windows
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> nixjr:  do you ever intend to share them with a windows machine?
[11:05] <iflema> blackbite sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> nixjr:  or use them as samba shares?
[11:05] <blackbite> thank you
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> gdm reads its sessions from the various .desktop files.. its odd that it would lose those
[11:06] <nixjr> Dr_Willis, right now I only have ubuntu on this box, but im thinking about making a seperate file server that will need to work with both windows and linux clients
[11:07] <blacye> ?
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> nixjr:  with samba shares.. it will be easier to share linux filesystems I imagine. with ntfs. you will need to properly mount the ntfs shares ith the proper options. then share them
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> nixjr:  but you can 'share' a ntfs filesystem over samba if you wanted to. but you wont have as fine controll over the permissions/ownership
[11:10] <Christian_> hi
[11:10] <Christian_> how i can add user too root group ?
[11:10] <aeon-ltd> !hi | Christian_
[11:10] <aeon-ltd> Christian_: you don't, just use sudo
[11:10] <Christian_> but i want:)
[11:10] <Christian_> can help me?
[11:11] <aeon-ltd> Christian_: why not just login as root?, its basically the same thing
[11:11] <meowbuntu> stefg this is ok but the ext2 or ext3 mounting partition is not guarnteed in windows
[11:11] <nixjr> Dr_Willis, so assuming i want everyone on the network to have full read/write access to everything, if the file system is compatable with samba, it makes little difference what i choose from the clients point of view?
[11:11] <Christian_> i wanna have 2 root user
[11:11] <Christian_> no sudo
[11:11] <Christian_> root user:) !
[11:11] <Dr_Willis> You want.. but you dont know how? :) i wonder why you want..
[11:11] <Christian_> i loose the command ..
[11:11] <Dr_Willis> nixjr:  yea. basically
[11:11] <stefg> meowbuntu: just wanted to make sure you know your options
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> Christian_:   you may want to clarify what it is exactly you are trying to do.
[11:12] <meowbuntu> stalso there is no real ned to fsck on an ntfs partition is there even if there is shared data like mp3, photos, documents all that
[11:12] <Christian_> example i wanna add user
[11:12] <Christian_> with root privilegies
[11:12] <nixjr> Dr_Willis, thanks, i want to plan this right before i build it, i need to google exactly what makes all these filesystems different
[11:12] <meowbuntu> thanks stefg
[11:13] <less> Christian_: what is wrong with sudo adduser?
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> nixjr:  that is one issue with ntfs however.. if the filesystems get curupted.. it can be hard to 'fix' them on a linux machine. the tools are niot as good (yet) as the ones on windows
[11:13] <Christian_> lol
[11:13] <Christian_> i dont want
[11:13] <meowbuntu> see my post ^ stefg
[11:13] <Christian_> i just wanna enter to te shell
[11:13] <Christian_> and use comands witouth sudo
[11:13] <Christian_> sudo su
[11:13] <FloodBot2> Christian_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> nixjr:  i would have to say.. for a linux fileserver. dont use ntfs..  unless you have to
[11:13] <Christian_> ok
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> Christian_:  'sudo -s' is the better way
[11:13] <Christian_> mm well thanks
[11:14] <meowbuntu> stall i have ion that partition are music files, photos, documents etc
[11:14] <nixjr> Dr_Willis, there are dozens to choose from, striking ntfs off the list of choices shouldnt be much of an issue
[11:14] <meowbuntu> * stefg all ^
[11:15] <Christian_> look this useradd -u 0 -o -g 0 "nombre_de_usuario"
[11:15] <Christian_> :)
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> nixjr:  ext4, or if you want to be 'cutting edge' theres the btrfs :) but that may be too risky at this time
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> Christian_:  so?
[11:16] <SkunkFoot> Where's a good place to discuss Ubuntu usability?
[11:16] <SkunkFoot> I have a nit to pick
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> !brainstorm
[11:16] <aeon-ltd> SkunkFoot: ot or here if its a problem
[11:16] <Christian_> jaja
[11:16] <Christian_> nothing
[11:16] <Christian_> thanks alot
[11:17] <SkunkFoot> Well why does it say "Authentication Failure" when you get your password wrong?
[11:17] <rainaaa> supppp
[11:17] <SkunkFoot> That sounds a bit silly
[11:17] <aeon-ltd> SkunkFoot: because uhhhh you failed to authenticate?
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> what do you want it to say? "You Suxor!' ?
[11:17] <SkunkFoot> Why not give the user a piece of information that might be of some use ... such as "Your password was wrong"
[11:17] <SkunkFoot> Something humans might understand
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> SkunkFoot:  you DONT tell the attacker that they got Just the password wrong.. or just the nick wrong.. its that simple
[11:17] <nixjr> Dr_Willis, i did a slackware build a long time ago and use rieserfs, although with my limited linux experiance, i really cant tell the difference between them
[11:18] <SkunkFoot> Windows will
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> one of the reasons  people hate the 'pictures' on the gdm login screen also.
[11:18] <SkunkFoot> Or why not just say "You got your username or password wrong"
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> SkunkFoot:  go file somtning on brainstorm then.
[11:19] <SkunkFoot> I didn't think I would get such a hostile reaction
[11:19] <SkunkFoot> So sorry to rock the board
[11:19] <aeon-ltd> SkunkFoot: dude just use sudo in a terminal instead of gksudo then
[11:19] <SkunkFoot> *boat
[11:19]  * Dr_Willis wonders what part of 'username: password: ' is not clear....  but oh well
[11:20]  * Dr_Willis votes to put the 'n' in to 'umount' so its the more understandable 'unmount'
[11:21] <wise_cry1t> Dr_Willis: alias unmount= "sudo umount"
[11:22] <less> :)
[11:22] <selofi> holas!
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> we need a web cam interface for GDM . so i can just smile at my pc and it logs me in
[11:22] <selofi> whats de meaning of: Warning: [Main]: QGLShader::link: "Fragment shader(s) linked, vertex shader(s) linked.?
[11:22] <less> Or frown at it to make it hibernate. ;-)
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> Then we would get a Smilefication failure.
[11:23] <selofi> #ubuntu-es
[11:24] <selofi> join #ubuntu-es
[11:24] <selofi> el canal castellano?
[11:24] <iflema> selofi /join #ubuntu-es
[11:25] <selofi> gracias!
[11:28] <jesuska> Hello all
[11:28] <jesuska> I would appreciate some help with empathy
[11:29] <abhi_nav> jesuska, what?
[11:29] <jesuska> empathy doesnt seem to be working anymore.. tried to unistall reinstall with no luck. It stalls when adding a new account and it wont connect
[11:29] <abhi_nav> jesuska, solution - install pidgin.
[11:30] <delinquentme> anyone here played with ruby on rails? im looking for a high quality UBUNTU -SPECIFIC ruby on rails tutorial
[11:30] <abhi_nav> jesuska, i dont use empathy because i cant edit font size in it
[11:30] <delinquentme> any recommendations would be awesome !!!!
[11:31] <jesuska> ok i will try it
[11:31] <jesuska> thanks
[11:32] <aeon-ltd> delinquentme: its the same everywhere
[11:33] <delinquentme> aeon-ltd, what do you mean?
[11:33] <aeon-ltd> delinquentme: rails
[11:34] <delinquentme> uhhhh
[11:34] <delinquentme> nah. haha
[11:34] <delinquentme> are you a rails developer?
[11:34] <DarsVaeda> how do i change the order of the grub list in 10.04?
[11:34] <aeon-ltd> delinquentme: no but i've played with it
[11:34] <DarsVaeda> or better: how do i set another entry as default boot option
[11:35] <abhi_nav> !grub2 | DarsVaeda
[11:35] <abhi_nav> DarsVaeda, set that another entry to '0'
[11:35] <delinquentme> hmmm .. everybody uses 1000 different software packages
[11:35] <delinquentme> ive been developing on one specific for a mac and im ready to shoot myself over it
[11:36] <Fudge> ok guys i need some help with wpa_supplicant plz, ive wrote my config file, its worked for quite some time. ive more than  likely missed a step. 1. i dont know how to determine my wireless dirver, lucid jus tpicke dup my netgear card. its called wlan0 i put the conf in /etc/wpa_supplican.conf. under the interfaces file put auto wlan0 next line iface wlan0 inet dhcp then next line wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf but the interface doesn
[11:36] <Avasz> !bridge
[11:36] <aeon-ltd> Avasz: seems like the bot screwed
[11:37] <DarsVaeda> thx
[11:37] <jefimenko> what is the difference between the ethX.N notation and ethX:N notation in the /etc/network/interfaces file? for example, I have a static IP configured on eth0, a VLAN on eth0.100, but adding a regular second static IP on eth0.1 doesn't work; i have to use eth0:1 (note the colon instead of the dot)
[11:37] <Avasz> aeon-ltd, no.. it sent me an pm saying it has no info on bridge
[11:37] <aeon-ltd> Avasz: my bad
[11:38] <aeon-ltd> loooooool, longcat is long
[11:39] <aLeSD> hi all ... how to watch tv on the computer ?
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> aLeSD:  clarify what you mean.
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> tv tuner? web sites? watching video files?
[11:40] <aLeSD> Dr_Willis: I'd like to see the tv from other countries on my ubuntu
[11:40] <DJ_HaMsTa> place a tv on top of you pc.. watch it
[11:40] <aLeSD> tv by internet
[11:40] <aLeSD> lol
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> aLeSD:  find some web site that streams the shows you want then.
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> or torrents for teh shows you want.
[11:41] <aLeSD> ok
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> seems rather logical  to me. :)
[11:43] <aLeSD> Dr_Willis: could u suggest me a website for streaming ?
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> Not really. you havent mentioned what kind of shows, or what country..   so id have to say go hit google.
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> because thats what id have to do to answer you. :)
[11:44] <Fudge> wpa_supplicant, ive nearly got it working :p
[11:44] <Fudge> just need someoen who has it workign in cli to help me out
[11:45] <nixjr> aLeSD, here is a internet tv site local to my own country, but with international stations http://www.ziln.co.nz/
[11:45] <aLeSD> thanks
[11:52] <DarsVaeda> how do i change the default bootlist entry in grub (ubuntu 10.04)
[11:52] <abhi_nav> ?????
[11:52] <stefg> !grub | DarsVaeda
[11:52] <DarsVaeda> that wiki article is wrong, does not work
[11:52] <stefg> !grub2 | DarsVaeda
[11:52] <abhi_nav> :)
[11:52] <DarsVaeda> as said
[11:52] <DarsVaeda> does not work
[11:53] <stefg> !doesntwork
[11:53] <stefg> :-)
[11:53] <abhi_nav> DarsVaeda, what you want to do? edit that grub file? set your defualt os number to '0'. what else?
[11:53] <abhi_nav> :D
[11:53] <josef__> i added a custom repository and did an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade; but the upgrade just tells me that there is one packet left for update; but it won't update; can anybody help?
[11:53] <DarsVaeda> i want to have another menu entry to boot up by default as it is now
[11:54] <DarsVaeda> the article says change the number of the default
[11:54] <abhi_nav> DarsVaeda, e.g. you have 'abc' os as default now and you want to change it to 'xyz' os as default right?
[11:54] <DarsVaeda> GRUB_DEFAULT=0 , i did ran update-grub but it is still not the menu entry i want
[11:54] <DarsVaeda> yeah @ abhi_nav
[11:54] <iflema> DarsVaeda edit the file /etc/default/grub save and follow with  a sudo update-grub, the first on the list is 0 second 1 and so on.....
[11:54] <DarsVaeda> like that
[11:55] <DarsVaeda> ...thats what i did -.-
[11:55] <stefg> DarsVaeda: grub2 uses the ordering given in /etc/grub.d. (reminds me of old sys-V-style init)
[11:55] <abhi_nav> ^^
[11:55] <abhi_nav> DarsVaeda, you set it to 0. so what is wrong now?
[11:55] <DarsVaeda> my default is 0, the default i want is 5
[11:55] <DarsVaeda> so i set 5 to default
[11:55] <Guest64462> hi i have a problem with KVMSwitcher (mouse and keyboard)
[11:55] <stefg> DarsVaeda: don't mess with teh files in /boot/grub ... will get overwritten anyway.
[11:55] <iflema> DarsVaeda look for   GRUB_DEFAULT=0
[11:56] <abhi_nav> DarsVaeda, then set grub_defualt=5
[11:56] <DarsVaeda> gnah
[11:56] <DarsVaeda> i did -.-
[11:56] <abhi_nav> DarsVaeda, counting starts from 0,1,2,3 etc. so may your actually 5 is 4?
[11:56] <DarsVaeda> i hate grub2 maybe i just switch back to the old one
[11:56] <Guest64462> hi i have a problem with KVMSwitcher (mouse and keyboard)
[11:56] <iflema> DarsVaeda followed by in a terminal     sudo update-grub
[11:57] <iflema> DarsVaeda or even   sudo update-grub2
[11:57] <Guest64462> heuu lol, i loss mouse and after keyboard, but i can't see error
[11:57]  * stefg thinks grub2 sucks, too.... unnecessary obfuscation
[11:57] <DarsVaeda> yeah forget about it
[11:57] <DarsVaeda> another question
[11:57] <DarsVaeda> how do i switch back to grub¹
[11:57] <DarsVaeda> :D
[11:57] <abhi_nav> :(
[11:58] <stefg> DarsVaeda: look at /etc/grub.d ... you have to order the modules by giving the numbers in the filename
[11:58] <DarsVaeda> yeah i did
[11:58] <DarsVaeda> its the 6. entry
[11:58] <DarsVaeda> so it must be 5
[11:58] <DarsVaeda> i set it in the file in etc/default
[11:58] <DarsVaeda> run update-grub, its in boot/grub now
[11:58] <DarsVaeda> but does not work
[11:59] <stefg> DarsVaeda: and did you do a grub-update afterwards (so /boot/grub/grub.cfg got rewritten)?
[11:59] <DarsVaeda> sooo how do i switch back to grub¹
[11:59] <stefg> DarsVaeda: you are asking for trouble ...
[11:59] <iflema> DarsVaeda have you tried allready? try sudo update-grub2
[11:59] <arunkumar413> hi i need a text editor
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> arunkumar413:  so? theres proberly 30 to choose from
[12:00] <stefg> arunkumar413: you have one already i guess
[12:00] <DarsVaeda> stefg i'm just f*cked by grub2, never run in any probs with the old version, now everything is overcomplicated i think
[12:00] <arunkumar413> geditor in 10.4 is generating a formatted text
[12:00] <abhi_nav> arunkumar413, abiword
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> arunkumar413:  huh?
[12:01] <stefg> DarsVaeda: i agree... but my attempts to switch back to grub 0.98 always led to desaster. debian and ubuntu decided to switch b/c grub (1) is unmaintained
[12:02] <minimec> Hi. I am recording and streaming a radio stream via the headphone monitor. Now I would like to add my headphone micro too. What software would you use to record and redirect the headphone mic directly to the headphone monitor? Or is there a simple PulseAudio solution? Didn't find one...
[12:02] <paddy_> i try echo -e "\a" to make the system speaker beep but I think it might be turned off, how do i turn it on?
[12:03] <arunkumar413> abhi_nav: abiword download size is 11mb,can u suggest another
[12:03] <abhi_nav> arunkumar413, you dont have broadband?
[12:03] <stefg> DarsVaeda: Feel free to chime in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1299270
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> paddy_:  its amazing how i see that asked ion here about eery week. :)  #1 thing to try - sudo  modprobe pcspkr
[12:03] <arunkumar413> abhi_nav: nope,
[12:03] <DarsVaeda> sudo grub-set-default X
[12:03] <DarsVaeda> -.-
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> paddy_:  or try the 'beep' command  to have finer controll of beepings.
[12:04] <abhi_nav> arunkumar413, :-(
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> paddy_:  at one time there was a X bug that some how disabled the ctrl-g and \a beeping. Not sure if thats been fixed or not
[12:04] <abhi_nav> arunkumar413, I cant imagin my comp withouut broadband.
[12:04] <iflema> minimec adour / jack
[12:05] <paddy_> sudo  modprobe pcspkr does nothing
[12:05] <Guest64462> i have a problem with mouse :'(
[12:05] <abhi_nav> Guest61475, I have a cat :)
[12:05] <Guest64462> abhi_nav lollll
[12:05] <arunkumar413> abhi_nav: is there any other plain text editor
[12:06] <paddy_> Dr_willis beep works but the real aim of this is for \a to work
[12:06] <zeer> I want to "echo" the letters a-z on the shell, how can I do that? "for i in `[a-z]` ; do"
[12:06] <minimec> iflema: THX. Do I really have to pass via ardour/jack? I was hoping that there is a simple pulseaudio solution... I will have a look at it.
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> paddy_:  i think that 'x bug' is still happening.
[12:06] <paddy_> is there a bug report
[12:06] <iflema> minimec also http://ubuntustudio.org/
[12:06] <abhi_nav> arunkumar413, Kate, Mousepad, Leafpad. i read this names in ubuntu software center
[12:06] <abhi_nav> arunkumar413, there are more of them
[12:06] <DarsVaeda> well then...thanks anyway ;)
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> paddy_:  i modprobe pcspkr, then beep works. rmmod pcspkr and beep dont work.. the echo \a never works in either case
[12:06] <paddy_> would sudo gdm stop and then do it from terminal work then
[12:07] <arunkumar413> abhi_nav: need a plain text no formatting
[12:07] <Dr_Willis> paddy_:  i saw someone mention this bug a long time ago. last year some time
[12:07] <robert> how do i get on the winehq irc?
[12:07] <abhi_nav> !vim
[12:07] <VCoolio> !register | robert
[12:08] <VCoolio> robert: some channels require being registered at freenode, guess this is one of them
[12:08] <iflema> minimec it will be ready to go if you download a full iso or install ubuntustudio-desktop + more =)
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> paddy_:  YES. it does work from the console.
[12:08] <abhi_nav> arunkumar413, ^^
[12:08] <minimec> iflema: Probably 'sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio' (metapackage) would do...
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> paddy_:  load the module. and   \a works.
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> paddy_:  so it seems that X bug is still in effect.
[12:09] <arunkumar413> abhi_nav: there is this editor called nano installed.but i cant launch it
[12:09] <abhi_nav> arunkumar413, you can search in your ubuntu software center
[12:10] <daniele4567> ciao ragazzi ho un grosso problema ubuntu10.04 non mi vede la partizione di windows 7
[12:10] <abhi_nav> arunkumar413, type 'nano' in terminal
[12:10] <abhi_nav> arunkumar413, its installed by defualt here in my ubuntu
[12:10] <panda59> any one have an KVMSwitcher
[12:10] <arunkumar413> abhi_nav: me too
[12:11] <wise_cry1t> arunkumar413: you can also use gedit its on the menu
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> other console editors, vi, mcedit, nano, pico,  emacs ,  fte,
[12:12] <Dr_Willis> other gui editors. gvim, cream, geany,  emacs,  efte, ...... :)
[12:12] <paddy_> what module
[12:12] <NightKhaos> Dr_Willis: I would not recommend Vi or Emacs to a newbie... kinda hard to learn. :P
[12:12] <Dr_Willis> paddy_:  the pcspkr modile
[12:12]  * wise_cry1t thinks if there is a gui solution for newbie better give it to them
[12:12] <Dr_Willis> vi is worth learning.
[12:12] <paddy_> how do i load it
[12:12] <arunkumar413> wise_cry1t: i need a plain text editor.Gedit is generating formatted text
[12:12] <Dr_Willis> paddy_:  with the modprobe command i mentioned earlier
[12:12] <NightKhaos> Dr_Willis: it's worth learning...
[12:12] <wise_cry1t> arunkumar413: not really
[12:12] <NightKhaos> Dr_Willis: but it's HARD to learn.
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> NightKhaos:  no its not.
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> :)
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> 'learning to learn' is hard.
[12:13] <NightKhaos> Dr_Willis: that's cause you, and I, have learned. :P
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> !info vimtutor
[12:13] <paddy_> doesnt work
[12:13] <paddy_> i will just open beep as a file in perl
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> paddy_:  in the console the \a worked after i had loded the pcspkr module. Nothing makes it work in X.
[12:13] <wise_cry1t> arunkumar413: you can open plain text with any editor you like :)
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> !info vitutor
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> Hmm what is that command/package heh.
[12:14] <panda59> where is the conf file for X
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> panda59:  IF it exists /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:14] <wise_cry1t> arunkumar413: but gedit is in gui like notepad in win but more feature
[12:14] <NightKhaos> Dr_Willis: your point is noted. However, the package is not important.
[12:14] <panda59> Dr_Willis i don't see it (linux mint)
[12:14] <wise_cry1t> arunkumar413: there is also nedit for x
[12:15] <Dr_Willis> I think 'nano' needs a better replacement. I saw a console exitor ages ago that was a clone of the old dos edit..  but cant find it again.
[12:15] <arunkumar413> wise_cry1t: when i copy the text from gedit to the blogger post editor and click on post.it is showing formatting errors
[12:15] <Dr_Willis> panda59:  it dosent ahve to exist. X auto configures
[12:15] <wise_cry1t> Dr_Willis: is it mcedit ? its from mc
[12:15] <Dr_Willis> wise_cry1t:  yes. its mc's own internal editor
[12:16] <panda59> Dr_Willis ok thanks
[12:16] <wise_cry1t> arunkumar413: change the formating type
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> wise_cry1t:  so you can use f2 to save.. instead of having a newbie look at the nano stuff and wonder what '^X' means :)
[12:16] <wise_cry1t> arunkumar413: utf-8 etc
[12:16] <arunkumar413> wise_cry1t: text wrapping?
[12:17] <wise_cry1t> Dr_Willis: you hard to confince they are phrase " linux is only for geeks " but ubuntu is for human being
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> 'linux is for people that want to get their work done' :)
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> 'linux - Your OS, your way'
[12:18] <wise_cry1t> Dr_Willis: and what point you trolling like that ?
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> wise_cry1t:  it was a reply to your trolling i guess.. if you call taht trolling..
[12:19] <wise_cry1t> Dr_Willis: suit yourself
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> ive sold many a people on 'linux' because of its flexibility. Not its  eyecandy or other features. On its pure flexibilty to suite their specific needs  exactly how they wanted it to.
[12:20] <redhat> #ubuntu-cn
[12:20] <wise_cry1t> !ot | Dr_Willis
[12:20] <abhi_nav> redhat type /j #ubuntu-cn
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> wise_cry1t:  but you started it. :)
[12:20] <wise_cry1t> :|
[12:21]  * Dr_Willis goes back to answering forum posts
[12:21] <NightKhaos> Dr_Willis, wise_cry1t. It doesn't matter who started it, you're both going off topic. So shut it, or take the arguement into PM if you must continue.
[12:22] <wise_cry1t> NightKhaos: i have given the factoid no need to raise it back
[12:22] <hypn0> there should be a timeout thing here, give em a 10 min timeout :-)
[12:22] <NightKhaos> wise_cry1t: That was more for Dr_Willis benefit than yours, but my point still stands.
[12:23] <wise_cry1t> !ot
[12:23] <Alcohol52> (¯`'·.¸\/¸.·'´¯) !ot| NightKhaos (¯`'·.¸\/¸.·'´¯)
[12:24] <aurilliance> I have ubuntu offering me NVIDIA drivers v173, v96 or version "current [reccomended]". Which should I go for? I have a nvidia 7600...
[12:24] <aurilliance> *recommended
[12:25] <evergreenn> hello
[12:25] <Askkrs> Hi.. After I update from 9.04 to 10.04 my usb mouse and my laptop keyboard not work... What can I do to fix this? Sorry for my English, I am from Russia )
[12:25] <evergreenn> I installed Ubuntu 4.10, but the mouse does not move: the right button and wheel work. you can do something?
[12:25] <aurilliance> Askkrs, #ubuntu-ru
[12:26] <aurilliance> also, I want to rename my ext4 drive using e2label, but I'm not sure how to get the device name for e2label...
[12:27] <aurilliance> It's quiet in here...
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:   you can check 'sudo fdisk -l' or  theres a few otehr ways
[12:27] <aurilliance> Dr_Willis, once again you come to my aid :P
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  if its mounted check 'mount' command output to see what it /dev/ is
[12:28] <livingdaylight> Hello Good People of Ubuntu - I come in Peace
[12:28] <decoder> I've just received a "not authenticated" warning with the updater under lucid
[12:29] <decoder> for all packages that are to be upgraded
[12:29] <decoder> any known problem there?
[12:29] <livingdaylight> I have sound in Chrome with youtube etc, but NOT in FF, anyone?
[12:29] <scorp5> http://scorpijon.bloger.hr/
[12:30] <vu1kan> !ot | scorp5
[12:30] <rww> scorp5: don't advertise in here, please
[12:30] <rww> or in #ubuntu-offtopic, for that matter ;P
[12:30] <nmvictor_> i am running lucid, avant-window-navigator is checked in System>Preference>Startup APplications, however, everytime i log in, it does not start automatically
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> decoder:  theres been some issues with some servers this last week. but i thought they had all been fixed.
[12:30] <vu1kan> rww is there a factoid that basically says that?
[12:30] <livingdaylight> Kann mir jemand dabei helfen?
[12:31] <decoder> Dr_Willis: hm, maybe I still had older data back from that time
[12:31] <abhi_nav> !en
[12:31] <decoder> Dr_Willis: I'll report again when it happens after update/upgrade
[12:31] <kpoman> hello ! do someone know how to configure a ndiswrapper interface via iwconfig ? i am trying and it doesnt set the ssid or whatever ! help
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> decoder:  yea. first thing to do is always a 'sudo apt-get update/upgrade'
[12:31] <livingdaylight> abhi_nav: I have sound in Chrome with youtube etc, but NOT in FF, anyone?
[12:31] <rww> vu1kan: not that I know of
[12:31] <decoder> Dr_Willis: was using the gui updater :)
[12:31] <livingdaylight> vu1kan: kan you help me? you were excellent last time
[12:32] <vu1kan> livingdaylight check in your sound preferences under the applications tab
[12:32] <vu1kan> while playing something with sound in ff
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> decoder:  i rarely use that. :0 i see too many quirks with it.
[12:32] <decoder> it worked well for me although I usually work in the console as well :)
[12:33] <livingdaylight> vu1kan: applications tab?
[12:33] <evergreenn>  I installed Ubuntu 10.04 lucid , but the mouse does not move: the right button and wheel work. you can do something?
[12:33] <vu1kan> livingdaylight the furthest right tab in sound preferences, it allows you to mute/adjust the volume for individual apps-but only while the apps are outputting sound
[12:34] <livingdaylight> vu1kan: i see!
[12:34] <Benny000> Hi
[12:34] <Luke__> hi
[12:35] <vu1kan> livingdaylight i'm guessing ff got muted there, if that's not the case, idk what you could do
[12:35] <Benny000> I need help with 10.04
[12:35] <livingdaylight> vu1kan: again, you da Man!!!
[12:35] <vu1kan> !ask
[12:35] <vu1kan> livingdaylight: i've just ran into similar issues myself
[12:36] <Benny000> q
[12:36] <livingdaylight> vu1kan: hehe... thank you for passing on your experience
[12:36] <WierdAAR> Hello. My installation of ubuntu seems to get more and more sluggish. Browsing is slow, programs takes longer to start.. What should i do? .. I've uninstalled all unnecessary programs ect.
[12:37] <vu1kan> Benny000 what's your particular issue?
[12:37] <Benny000> I need help with the update
[12:37] <semuser> Hi! Is there a way to boot ubuntu to RAM? (Meaning the op system will be copied to RAM, and run from there). I need this to repartition my hard drive (need to expand the / partition), and I have no live CD and no flash disk to boot from at hand
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> WierdAAR:  it is slow after a clean boot? not just after running for a long time?
[12:37] <paddy_> WierdAAR install flashblock for firefox it will make browsing 100 times faster
[12:37] <Benny000> it keeps frezzing after I update
[12:37] <livingdaylight> Do people mostly use Chromium now, or is FF still de facto?
[12:38] <vu1kan> WierdAAR check system>preferences>startup applications for programs you don't use
[12:38] <WierdAAR> Dr_Willis, After clean boot it's still slow
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> semuser:  i recall someone mentining a new 'toram' option in the 10.04 live/desktop cd. but ive never tried it. or even seen it documented
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> semuser:  so it might be possible.
[12:38] <WierdAAR> paddy_, I already have adblock with filters for most flash
[12:38] <semuser> Dr_Willis, as I said, i have no live cd at hand :(
[12:38] <lvh> Hello.
[12:39] <livingdaylight> I hear FF is a ram hog and chrome is kinder to one's resources? true/false?
[12:39] <omani> WierdAAR, the speed depends on your system enviroment
[12:39] <lvh> Currently Gnome maps Super and Hyper to the same modkey (here's the xmodmap output to prove it: mod4        Hyper_L (0x85),  Hyper_R (0x86),  Super_L (0xce),  Hyper_L (0xcf)).
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  chrome is more optmized. but lacking in some ways. so use whatever one you want.
[12:39] <WierdAAR> vu1kan, start up is pretty clean..
[12:39] <lvh> How can I get Gnome to map Super to mod4 and Hyper to menu?
[12:39] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: optimized?
[12:39] <WierdAAR> omani, Well i'm using xubuntu, and the problem is more that it's has gotten really slow since the install
[12:40] <lvh> I could use xmodmap directly but I'm trying to figure out how to do this with the graphical thing.
[12:40] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: I used to use FF but since using chromium I never find myself opening FF anymore
[12:40] <lvh> (System > Preferences > Keyboard)
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  yes. there was a lot of work in some parts of the chrome areas to gain speed. I forget the details. i think the javascript engine had big improvements.  and proberly other things.
[12:40] <DarkSector> livingdaylight: i think both are based on webkit
[12:40] <omani> WierdAAR, slow in which way? system startup? applications?
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> I used chrome for a long time.. then went back to FF.
[12:40] <DarkSector> so both hog equal amount
[12:40] <lvh> DarkSector: FF is most definitely *not* based on Webkit.
[12:40] <vagvaf> Hey, i have a folder with 751 permissions. I want to change some subfolders' permissions to 700 but when i type sudo chmod +x 700 subfolder, nothing happens. the permissions stay 751. any idea why ?
[12:40]  * DarkSector checks
[12:41] <livingdaylight> DarkSector: thx
[12:41] <lvh> DarkSector: FF is based on Gecko.
[12:41] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: what made you go back?
[12:41] <[CENTRAL]> Hi, i reinstalled ubuntu and choosen not to install bootloader. Now ubuntu is not booting. Just a flashing cursor doing nothing
[12:41] <DarkSector> lvh: oh yeah !! sorry
[12:41] <omani> vagvaf, chmod 700 subfolders
[12:41] <omani> vagvaf, without -x
[12:41] <DarkSector> lvh: yes its based on gecko so is chrome
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  i had issues blocking all the ads i wanted to block in chrome for the most part. and some extensions dident work as well
[12:41] <lvh> DarkSector: No!
[12:41] <lvh> DarkSector: Chrome is based on Webkit.
[12:41] <DarkSector> lvh: I am wrong again
[12:41] <DarkSector> yeah
[12:41] <lvh> DarkSector: FF is based on Gecko.
[12:41] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: thx
[12:41] <DarkSector> lvh: yes thats correct
[12:41] <WierdAAR> omani, Startup i at about the same speed but the application is more sluggish. I've begun to experience lagging during browsing and there are a lot of lagging when a couple of programs are open, which has never happend before.
[12:41] <DarkSector> lvh: my mistake
[12:42] <lvh> DarkSector: Safari is based on Webkit, and so are a few other minor browsers.
[12:42] <vagvaf> omani: yes sorry that was a typo. it's sudo chmod 700 subfolders
[12:42] <lvh> IE is based on Trident, and Opera has its own rendering engine.
[12:42] <omani> vagvaf, chmod -R 700 subfolders
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  some sites taht FF+adblock  blocked.. never did get blockjed by chrome and adblock. (that may be fixed by now)
[12:42] <vagvaf> omani: still nothings happens, i tried that too
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browsers
[12:43] <[CENTRAL]> Help ubuntu is not booting
[12:43] <phani> Hi...I am running Lucid and I am try to configure empathy for Gtalk but I am getting Network Connect error any suggestions please...
[12:43] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: some sites seem to look better in FF is all i've found to be different so far
[12:43] <omani> WierdAAR, is dma enabled on ur harddrive?
[12:44] <WierdAAR> Omni, I dont know.. How do i check?
[12:44] <mei> [CENTRAL]: Do you get any output when it's not booting?
[12:44] <[CENTRAL]> no
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  ive not really noticed that. but there was a few sites i always went to that had the most annoying fullpage popup ads that made switch back to FF real fast.
[12:45] <mei> [CENTRAL]: Can you explain what is happening from when you turn on your computer to when it does not boot up?
[12:45] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: agues, adblocking is something chrome needs to add/refine
[12:45] <[CENTRAL]> i get nothing. just a horizontal cursor. i just reinstalled ubuntu and i dont know why i chose not to install bootloader
[12:45] <[CENTRAL]> may be that the problem?
[12:45] <mei> [CENTRAL]: Yes.
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  i also seem to get a lot  of differance in the hard-printouts of vasrious sites in different browsers. some sites are totally unuseable when printed in some browsers
[12:45] <[CENTRAL]> ok how do i fix it
[12:46] <[CENTRAL]> without reinstalling the damn system all over again
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> You dont know why you did not leave it at the default? :)
[12:46] <[CENTRAL]> this is not the discussion here
[12:46] <mei> [CENTRAL]: You could boot up the LiveCD and try to restore GRUB on the system.
[12:46] <[CENTRAL]> how
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> [CENTRAL]:  it may be quicker to just reinstall.. unless you have some grub/console skills.
[12:46] <mei> [CENTRAL]: Hold on.
[12:47] <DarkSector> [CENTRAL]: is ubuntu the only kernel on your system ?
[12:47] <omani> WierdAAR, man hdparm
[12:47] <[CENTRAL]> i have windows but on another hard disk
[12:47] <DarkSector> [CENTRAL]: so the one you installed ubuntu in is it  master or slave ?
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> It would be nice if they put some 'repair' options on the live cd's
[12:47] <mei> [CENTRAL]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:47] <[CENTRAL]> salve but i can choose witch one i want at start
[12:47] <DarkSector> Dr_Willis: good idea, you could suggest that
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> DarkSector:  i think its been suggested. ive even seen it in other disrtos.
[12:48] <DarkSector> [CENTRAL]: ok so do an alt+f2 on the screen
[12:48] <mei> [CENTRAL]: Use that link, it will help you restoring GRUB, which is the bootloader. It will then detect other OS's and everything will be fine.
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> DarkSector:  but how far do you go.    the cd is packed so full as it is.
[12:48] <DarkSector> Dr_Willis: yeah true
[12:48] <Erdem> hello
[12:48] <Erdem> hý
[12:48] <[CENTRAL]> but i didnt installed windows
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> DarkSector:  perhaps a ubuntu-repair cd :)
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> [CENTRAL]:  its the same thing.. you need to reinstall grub..
[12:49] <DarkSector> Dr_Willis, haha, wow, a new stuff
[12:49] <mei> [CENTRAL]: What Dr_Willis said.
[12:49] <Erdem> Askkrs welcoe
[12:49] <Erdem> welcome
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> [CENTRAL]:  You have 2 seperate hard drives? or 1 hard drive?
[12:49] <DarkSector> lawl he left
[12:49] <DarkSector> Erdem: hahahaha
[12:49] <Erdem> DarkSector :))
[12:49] <Erdem> ne yapým
[12:49] <Erdem> anasýný satým
[12:50] <Erdem> kufur etsem anlamazlar sýmdý
[12:50] <Erdem> þaka yapýyom
[12:50] <FloodBot2> Erdem: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:50] <Erdem> kufur etmemde
[12:50] <Erdem> FloodBot2
[12:50] <Erdem> ?
[12:50] <DarkSector> Erdem: I don't know what language you speak
[12:50] <DarkSector> Erdem: and don't flood
[12:50] <Erdem> DarkSector kurdish
[12:50] <DarkSector> Erdem: ok are you new here ?
[12:50] <Jule> weg54
[12:50] <[CENTRAL]> i have 2 separate drives
[12:51] <Jule> 5 445
[12:51] <[CENTRAL]> one with windows and one with ubuntu
[12:51] <Jule> bvn b5
[12:51] <Jule> 57ju
[12:51] <Jule> 67uj
[12:51] <Jule> julia
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> [CENTRAL]:  so you could put grub on the linux hd. and then tell the bios to boot that.  that way if you ever reinstalled windows. you shouldent need to 'fix' grub again.
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> [CENTRAL]:  or if you remove linux later. you can boot the windows HD and not need to restore its bootloader either
[12:52] <omani> Erdem, ne kurdish'i lan? türkce desene
[12:53] <RealBadApple> hello ubuntu
[12:53] <DarkSector> !hi | RealBadApple
[12:53] <Erdem> DarkSector I speak Turkish with me, but you can talk in English
[12:53] <Erdem> omani
[12:53] <DarkSector> Erdem, ok, great
[12:54] <Erdem> DarkSector Where you?
[12:54] <omani> i think he's in here
[12:54] <mei> [CENTRAL]: Just use the first sector in the link. It's the easiest way.
[12:55] <RealBadApple> can anyone help me figure out how to get my new vaio vpcee23fx to recognize the alps touchpad so I can ditch this shitty microsoft mouse I am using?
[12:55] <Erdem> omani where are you from oman
[12:55] <Erdem> Rafik hosgeldýn
[12:55] <Erdem> est welcome
[12:56] <RealBadApple> anyone?
[12:56] <Rafik> hi Erdem, thanks :)
[12:56] <Erdem> ým thanks
[12:56] <Erdem> nerden kardes
[12:56] <Erdem> :)
[12:56] <RealBadApple> HELP! sony vaio touchpad is not recognized with 10.04
[12:57] <vu1kan> !patience | RealBadApple
[12:57] <abhijain> how to install GyachI ON UBUNTU
[12:57] <mei> RealBadApple: Take it easy. Your system is probably configured to support a Synaptics touchpad.
[12:57] <RealBadApple> I have never encountered this problem before and the forums are of no help it seems
[12:58] <mei> RealBadApple: What does "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" output?
[12:58] <RealBadApple> though this is my first laptop with out a synaptics touchpad
[12:58] <nicolas> hola
[12:58] <drowner79> Hi all. I need to use ndiswraper to get my wireless working. I have blacklisted everything as per the community docs. "ndiswrapper -l" tells me taht driver and device are present, however no wlan appears on ifconfig or iwconfig. Any thoughts?
[12:58] <Erdem> farhad1 h.g
[12:58] <RealBadApple> mei, give me a second and I get it
[12:58] <nicolas> hello men
[12:58] <nicolas> were are you
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> !info  GyachI
[13:01] <[CENTRAL]> i managed to get into grub minimal command line
[13:01] <mei> [CENTRAL]: Using the CD?
[13:01] <alpha__> when I run dmraid -s it tells me that my isw device is broken. WHat does this mean?
[13:02] <[CENTRAL]> yes i used cd and installed grub
[13:02] <RealBadApple> mei, here is the output "http://pastebin.com/j3qcKHdM"
[13:05] <Jaker> install  Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 ---->>ubuntu 10.04
[13:06] <Win> how can I mark a exe file to install it via wine ?
[13:06] <abhijain> ubottu: whgich pakage is avialble for yahoo massenger on lucid
[13:06] <Jaker> no the wine
[13:06] <abhi_nav> anyone suggest link to create great eyecandy desktop on ubuntu?
[13:06] <Win> lol
[13:07] <abhi_nav> Win, right click on it
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> chmod +x foo.exe    Win
[13:07] <mei> RealBadApple: Hard to tell, but try this out: gconftool -s -t bool /desktop/gnome/peripherals/touchpad/touchpad_enabled true
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> Win:  but IF its on a cd.. that wont work.
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> Win:  which is a real annoying bug.
[13:07] <wildbat> ubuntu don't give the option to suspend/sleep(it got hibernates thou) in the shutdown menu~ what should i do to enable it? 10.04, E6600, ASUS P5B
[13:07] <darksifer> elo channel. i run the command "sudo e2fsck -f -y /dev/sdc1" on a sata hard disk of 500GB full after getting Stale NFS Handling. can someone tell me how much time will it take approximately. Terminal stil shows me this http://pastebin.com/rV99yyiG after 10 minutes. thanks
[13:08] <RealBadApple> mei, I'll give that a try and be back in a minute
[13:08] <Jaker> I am a Russian request of you can help someone put ...
[13:08] <Win> Dr_Willis, thanks
[13:08] <rohan> hey erm..when ever i create a new wireless connx..i get this error ** (nm-applet:12864): WARNING **: _nm_object_get_property: Error getting 'HwAddress' for /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/AccessPoint/16: (19) Method "Get" with signature "ss" on interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" doesn't exist
[13:08] <rohan> jcan help?
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> Win:  if its on a cd. you basically can use the command line 'wine /media/cdrom/whatever.exe  '
[13:08] <abhi_nav> !ru | Jaker
[13:09] <abhijain> ubottu: pakcge foryahoo massenger on lucid?
[13:09] <Jaker> Thank you, I think you can help
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> abhijain:  there are IM clients that can do yahoo.  but there is  no official 'by yahoo' client for linux any more
[13:09] <xibalba> anyone know of a way i could log tcpdump data continually to a database like mysql. i know i can dump to a pcap file, but i'm afraid it will fill up, and i'm thinking about deploying it to a CF card so constant writing would be a no go
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> !im | abhijain
[13:10] <abhi_nav> if i remove bottom panel on my dektop where we see currently running program then wll i be able to bring it back? and after comeing back wll it show me the currently running aps?
[13:10] <xibalba> Dr_Willis , I'm sure you got something up your sleave. Thanks a million man, i'm rocking xming like crazy right now.
[13:10] <xibalba> wiresharking from my data center on my freebsd box
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> abhi_nav:  you can read-applets to the panels.. or reset the panels.
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel | abhi_nav
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> xibalba:  yep. its a handy tool.
[13:10] <abhi_nav> Dr_Willis, ok
[13:11] <Win> abhijain, here is my desktop candy you looking for something like that http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1z1qq38&s=6
[13:11] <abhijain> Dr_Willis: i know about pidgin empathy but i want yahoo massenger interface . pidgin not allow me add buddy option for yahoo
[13:11] <xibalba> Dr_Willis , any ideas on dumping packet data back to a remote mysql host?
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> xibalba:  theres also some ubuntu variants (anlinux? andlinux?) that run inside a virtual machine on windows. and use xming to display the gui. almost as good as  a real linux install.
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> xibalba:  not really. never needed to do that.
[13:12] <kroson> hi everyone
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> abhijain:  i dont do yahoo. so no idea on what clients have what features.
[13:12] <vu1kan> abhijain: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=833701 instructions on using YahElite through WINE
[13:12] <kroson> do you think its safe to use ubuntu-backports repository?
[13:12] <xibalba> is it easy to bridge 2 NICs in ubuntu?
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> Is there even anything in the backports repo in 10.04 yet?
[13:12] <rohan> hey any help on this...when i create a new connection i get this error
[13:12] <rohan> ** (nm-applet:12864): WARNING **: _nm_object_get_property: Error getting 'HwAddress' for /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/AccessPoint/16: (19) Method "Get" with signature "ss" on interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" doesn't exist
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> !bridge
[13:13] <xibalba> i found something
[13:13] <RealBadApple> mei, that did not work
[13:13] <xibalba> looks easy enough after an apt-get install
[13:13] <xibalba> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BridgingNetworkInterfaces
[13:13] <kroson> do you think its safe to use ubuntu-backports repository??
[13:13] <xibalba> fudge, i found a good app for my needs but it only runs on linux. i washoping to use openbsd
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> kroson:  i wouldent be too worried about using it.
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> xibalba:  to acomplish what task?
[13:13] <kroson> Dr_Willis: well i needed to use lucid-proposed to get my wireless finally working fine
[13:14] <kroson> so i thought that backports could be good to
[13:14] <xibalba> i want to log all pcap data from client locations for their VoIP traffic.
[13:14] <kroson> whats your opinion?
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> kroson:  proberly not a danger.
[13:14] <xibalba> http://voipmonitor.org/index.html, check that out Dr_Willis
[13:14] <kroson> Dr_Willis: you use it?
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> xibalba:  hard core stuff that i never use. :)
[13:14] <kroson> what packages do get updated in backports?
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> kroson:  i have in the past. In mot even sure if theres muich in the lucid backports repos at this time
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> kroson:  im not sure theres ANYTHINg in there yet.
[13:15] <kroson> lol
[13:15] <xibalba> ah, yeh i work at a voip company doing all this sip shit all day long. we use packetisland devices right now to capture a bunch of data for us, but i figured this could help too.
[13:15] <kroson> but lucid-proposed made a huge effect (for good) on me
[13:15] <kroson> well does backports get kernel or xorg updates?
[13:15] <kroson> or only applications?
[13:15] <Alcohol52> [kroson] there is backport fo wireless
[13:15] <RealBadApple> anyone here know how to get a sony touchpad working? It's an alps touchpad on a sony vaio vpcee23fx with 10.04
[13:15] <kroson> Alcohol52: thats what i installed
[13:15] <kroson> but its in the main repo, you dont need lucid-backports for that
[13:15] <mei> RealBadApple: What kernel are you running?
[13:16] <RealBadApple> mei, 2.6.32-22
[13:16] <wildbat> ubuntu don't give the option to suspend/sleep(it got hibernates thou) in the shutdown menu~ what should i do to enable it? 10.04, E6600, ASUS P5B
[13:16] <kroson> Alcohol52: but the version that is in lucid-proposed made the difference, before i had connection drops ocasionally, now its much better
[13:17] <sarp> hi
[13:17] <mei> RealBadApple: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9329402&postcount=3 was the best I could find. So try updating the kernel to 2.6.34
[13:17] <Pirate_Hunter> hi sarp
[13:17] <sarp> i've a problem with ubuntu
[13:17] <cntrational> How do you create a GParted LiveUSB?
[13:17] <kroson> sarp: tell us xD
[13:17] <rohan> hi
[13:17] <mei> RealBadApple: That is regarding the scroll whell, of course, but it might help.
[13:17] <Pirate_Hunter> hi rohan
[13:17]  * Pirate_Hunter feels like a bot
[13:17] <rohan> i have a prob..with the nm-applet
[13:18] <sarp> how can i see my system configuration
[13:18] <cntrational> Pirate_Hunter: we are all bots
[13:18] <rohan> whenever i create a new wireless connection..i get this error ** (nm-applet:12864): WARNING **: _nm_object_get_property: Error getting 'HwAddress' for /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/AccessPoint/16: (19) Method "Get" with signature "ss" on interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" doesn't exist
[13:18] <sarp> my mother board cpu chipset etc...
[13:18] <Pirate_Hunter> cntrational, you might have a point there
[13:18] <Win> this is what I get when I run the chmod +x
[13:18] <abhi_nav> hypn0, done :)
[13:18] <Win> Archive:  /home/wizard/.wine/dosdevices/c:/async23_pc/Amidio Sync 2.exe
[13:18] <Win> [/home/wizard/.wine/dosdevices/c:/async23_pc/Amidio Sync 2.exe]
[13:18] <Win>   End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[13:18] <Win>   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
[13:18] <Win>   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
[13:18] <Pirate_Hunter> sarp,  what do you man by system configuration?
[13:18] <FloodBot2> Win: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:18] <Alcohol52> [kroson] which drivers are you after? mine didn't work
[13:18] <Win>   the last disk(s) of this archive.
[13:18] <Win> zipinfo:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of /home/wizard/.wine/dosdevices/c:/async23_pc/Amidio Sync 2.exe or
[13:18] <gryllida> hi, gksu -u user usr/local/firefox/firefox -P "nightly" -no-remote
[13:18] <gryllida> what's wrong with this line?
[13:18] <RealBadApple> mei, I am not sure if it matters but I am running the 64bit ubuntu
[13:18] <sarp> my cpu,motherboard,sound ard etc
[13:19] <vu1kan> !info hardinfo
[13:19] <mei> RealBadApple: Are you sure that it's not turned off through some hardware setting? For instance FN+F9?
[13:20] <sarp> thx
[13:20] <vu1kan> np
[13:20] <Pirate_Hunter> sarp, there are a few command but lshw should do the job there is also lspci
[13:20] <RealBadApple> mei, I don't have a hardware shut off in the form of a fn combo
[13:20] <Pirate_Hunter> sarp,  lshw is more in-depth while lspci lets you identify components in your machine
[13:20] <chowlala> hey
[13:21] <delinquentme> can someone explain to me what this means: /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31: [BUG] rb_gc_mark(): unknown data type 0x0(0x7feb02685200) corrupted object
[13:21] <chowlala> i've got a synaptics touchpad, but how do i get my multitouch to work?
[13:21] <gryllida> hello?
[13:21] <Jaker> tell my channel for communication??
[13:22] <Pirate_Hunter> gryllida, bot really sure what you're trying to do but do you really need the -u with gksudo I dont see how trying to run firefox with a different user credential is needed and is that even possible, for the rest of that command I aint even sure
[13:22] <Pirate_Hunter> !patience | gryllida
[13:22] <mei> RealBadApple: Have you checked this out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection
[13:23] <abhi_nav> Pirate_Hunter, you play pirates of carribean disney?
[13:23] <Pirate_Hunter> abhi_nav, sssh don't give it away... :s
[13:23] <abhi_nav> Pirate_Hunter, I dont understand
[13:23] <Pirate_Hunter> gryllida, bot>not *
[13:24] <Pirate_Hunter> abhi_nav, never mind, you got an ubuntu question?
[13:24] <gryllida> Pirate_Hunter: I'm trying to update it, that's why
[13:24] <abhi_nav> Pirate_Hunter, no just exclamaining about your nick. :)
[13:24] <mei> RealBadApple: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/known-ubuntu-10-04lucid-lynx-issuesbugs-with-workarounds.html check number 5
[13:24] <Pirate_Hunter> gryllida, you're trying to update firefox?
[13:24] <gryllida> Pirate_Hunter: yeah, 3.6.6 is out this hour
[13:24] <mei> RealBadApple: Not that you have the same problem, but similar.
[13:25] <Pirate_Hunter> abhi_nav, i've had this nick before the movie came out *sigh* am I that old
[13:25] <salserito> Hello world
[13:25] <abhi_nav> Pirate_Hunter, ohhh.
[13:27] <obscurant1st> i just installed x64 ubuntu 10.04, but GUI is not there, is it supposed to be liek that?
[13:27] <obscurant1st> somebody pls tell me!
[13:28] <sarp> can i play sims2 on my ubuntu with wine emulator
[13:28] <Pirate_Hunter> gryllida, 3.6.6 has come out mine is still on 3.6.3 and I am happy also you are aware 3.6.6 will just offer a few changes nothing major
[13:28] <abhi_nav> obscurant1st, you are using desktop edtition and not the server edition?
[13:29] <obscurant1st> server edition
[13:29] <vu1kan> sarp: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[13:29] <mei> sarp: Seems like it has some problems.
[13:29] <obscurant1st> abhi_nav, server edition
[13:29] <abhi_nav> obscurant1st, it doesnt have gui by default. it is text only. if you want gui you can install it yourself
[13:29] <abhi_nav> obscurant1st, ubuntu server edition dont have gui by default
[13:29] <mei> sarp: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2633&iTestingId=48674
[13:29] <jpds> obscurant1st: Yes; that's how it's suppose to be.
[13:29] <Win> can someone help with the error message I did do chmod +x then file name and tried to install it via wine never worked thanks
[13:29] <Win> http://paste.ubuntu.com/455896/
[13:30] <gryllida> Pirate_Hunter: hahahaha! 3.6.6 introduces oopp, ohno don't say I shouldn't update, our whole mozilla network was going rounds about it
[13:30] <Pirate_Hunter> gryllida, http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ubuntuzilla/index.php?title=Main_Page check this page out I got it from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=330386
[13:30] <gryllida> Pirate_Hunter: but.. I have no idea how to update on linux.
[13:30] <cntrational> gryllida: 2.6.4 introduces OOPP, actually
[13:31] <aretrfre34> hi, help me
[13:31] <aretrfre34> i'm from recovery mode
[13:31] <gryllida> cntrational:no, 3.6.4.
[13:31] <gryllida> cntrational: and I'm on 3.6.3 yet :<
[13:31] <aretrfre34> if go normal mode no internet connection
[13:31] <gryllida> cntrational: while 3.6.6 is out and I'm trying to update
[13:31] <cntrational> gryllida: typoed
[13:31] <obscurant1st> abhi_nav, how can i install it, i mean, which one whould i download, i hv to download it manually, as i cnt use apt-get as of now
[13:31] <cntrational> gryllida: I meant 3.6.4 <.<
[13:31] <Pirate_Hunter> gryllida, are you a web designer? Do you really need that feature?
[13:32] <aretrfre34> i was followinf tutorial in ubuntuforums
[13:32] <cntrational> obscurant1st: hm?
[13:32] <abhi_nav> obscurant1st, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. why cant you use apt-get now?
[13:32] <cntrational> gryllida: i don't think it's in the repos yet
[13:32] <aretrfre34> help
[13:32] <gryllida> Pirate_Hunter: I'm a user of an os where I need to learn how to do gksu anyways.
[13:32] <sarp> what is the best browser for ubuntu(fastest)
[13:32] <Win> can anyone help with the error message I did a chmod +x then file name tried to install via wine and got this error
[13:32] <aretrfre34> ubottu:help me
[13:32] <Win> http://paste.ubuntu.com/455896/
[13:33] <obscurant1st> abhi_nav, i dont hv a ethernet cable, so i hv to use Wifi for internet, i dont know how to connect to internet using wifi through terminal
[13:33] <gryllida> cntrational: I'm just trying to run it as superuser, then hit help - check for updates, should work I think
[13:33] <pygi> hey folks
[13:33] <pygi> how can I get a list of all available versions of a package with apt?
[13:33] <pygi> I am aware of apt-show-versions, but its external perl script that I'm not allowed to use
[13:33] <cntrational> gryllida: you could always just add the ubuntu-mozilla-security ppa
[13:33] <mei> pygi: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[13:34] <abhi_nav> obscurant1st, i suggest that first you ask in #ubunut-server how to connect wifi. connect it and then install it. another way is do you have any ubuntu desktop edition cd?
[13:34] <chowlala> hey, i followed the instructions on this site http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1479361&page=3
[13:34] <gryllida> Pirate_Hunter: "sourceforge"? "ubuntuzilla"? no,I'm not going to install new apps for this right now
[13:34] <pygi> mei, I need to use apt! :P
[13:34] <bastid_raZor> pygi: apt-cache policy packagename
[13:34] <sarp> an how can i change dns settings
[13:34] <chowlala> to try to get multitouch working on my dell studio 14, but it's not working :(
[13:34] <laeg> can i roll back a package version with synaptic/apt-get?
[13:34] <pygi> bastid_raZor, what does policy do?
[13:34] <chowlala> i have multitouch working on my windows boot
[13:34] <gryllida> cntrational: no, gksu firefox basically, then check for updates
[13:34] <chowlala> but not on linux, can anyone gimme a hand?
[13:34] <Pirate_Hunter> gryllida, I'll let that slide take a look at that link it might get you 3.6.6 I am quite happy with what I got and why you would try to use gksudo for FF only god knows, I wouldn't advise it
[13:34] <bastid_raZor> pygi: shows what packages are available and which repo they are in.
[13:34] <gryllida> cntrational: no idea how to gksu though
[13:34] <Benwa> Hi, what can i do when i get this : http://img4.glowfoto.com/images/2010/06/27-0658292178L.png It's a 700 Mo video who cut after 10 seconds. And it's not the first time this kind of thing happen.
[13:34] <pygi> bastid_raZor, interesting, lemme try
[13:35] <Benwa> is it a crypted file?
[13:35] <obscurant1st> abhi_nav, i hv desktop edition but its of 32 bit edition, my srver is 64 bit
[13:35] <gryllida> Pirate_Hunter: ? when I just help - check for updates, it says not enough permissions, this is why I'm trying
[13:35] <abhi_nav> obscurant1st, ok
[13:35] <Win> anyone help me with a wine problem ?
[13:35] <gryllida> !winw
[13:35] <gryllida> !wine
[13:35] <abhi_nav> obscurant1st, you see in #ubuntu-server if anyone can help connect wifi
[13:35] <gryllida> !details
[13:35] <obscurant1st> abhi_nav, ok
[13:35] <atcho> !ledger
[13:35] <RealBadApple> mei, thanks for your help but nothing is working so far!
[13:35] <laeg> can i roll back a package version with synaptic/apt-get?
[13:35] <chowlala> !multitouch
[13:35] <chowlala> !synaptic
[13:35] <chowlala> !synaptics
[13:36] <laeg> Win: try #winehq or the forums on winehq.org
[13:36] <atcho> !emacs
[13:36] <RealBadApple> laeg, you can pin a version in synaptic
[13:36] <laeg> chowlala: are you saying it can be done?
[13:36] <Pirate_Hunter> gryllida, if you want to check for updates its sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get upgrade gksduo is for soemthing completely different or you can use gksudo synaptic
[13:36] <laeg> RealBadApple: sweet, i'd just like it as a temporary measure until the bug is fixed from a rc
[13:36] <Pirate_Hunter> !gksudo | gryllida
[13:36] <Muelli> laeg: what exactly do you want to do? You can do apt-get install -t $suite package, or apt-get install package=version. you get the version from apt-cache policy package.
[13:37] <aretrfre34> no help
[13:37] <laeg> Muelli: i'd like to roll back wine1.2-rc5 to rc4, rc3 or possibly rc2
[13:38] <chowlala> laeg: yes
[13:38] <laeg> chowlala: ty
[13:38] <delinquentme> is it safe to assume that legacy versions of ubuntu are more stable than those that have been recently released??
[13:38] <gryllida> Pirate_Hunter: I already used sudo once for it (it didn't launch though), should I reboot asap?
[13:38] <Muelli> laeg: does the desired version show up in apt-cache policy wine? If so, use that to apt-get install wine=1.2-rc3 or so..
[13:38] <delinquentme> im running lynx and shit just B R E A K S
[13:38] <chowlala> laeg: if your touchpad has multitouch on windows, it's just a matter of configuring drivers to work on linux
[13:39] <gryllida> delinquentme: I have lynx here in terminal, things work as expected
[13:39] <laeg> chowlala: no friend, i'm talking about synaptic package manager...
[13:39] <Win> http://paste.ubuntu.com/455896/ can someone help ?
[13:39] <delinquentme> gryllida, what browser du use?
[13:39] <delinquentme> im runnign chromium and its wonky
[13:39] <gryllida> delinquentme: mainly firefox
[13:40] <gryllida> delinquentme: alsow3m, lynx, links2
[13:40] <delinquentme> ... annnd have you done any RoR development?
[13:40] <Pirate_Hunter> gryllida, ok I think I need to stop and understand what you're actually trying to do, you said you wanted to update firefox, I have no clue how you're going to do that with the command gksudo -u... so explain to me again what exactly you want to do, what is it you hope to achieve and tell me what tutorial your using
[13:40] <laeg> Muelli: i'm unfamiliar with the apt-cache policy wine, if you mean does it display when entering apt-cache policy wine into term, then no it does not
[13:40] <Muelli> Win: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=executable+bit
[13:40] <delinquentme> or perhaps used Rspec or Git?
[13:41] <gryllida> Pirate_Hunter: I'm trying to run firefox as root after it told me 'not enough permissions' when I hit help -check for updates
[13:41] <Muelli> laeg: hm. could you paste the output of apt-cache policy wine? :-) using dpaste.com or so.
[13:41] <abhi_nav> hi abhinav
[13:41] <Muelli> laeg: also, how did you install the 1.2-rc5?
[13:42] <gryllida> hi abhi_nav
[13:42] <Win> Muelli, did you not think I googled this before I asked
[13:42] <abhi_nav> gryllida, ??
[13:42] <Muelli> Win: apparently not. Your question does not indicate that at all.
[13:42] <laeg> Muelli: http://pastebin.com/iQhWcutA - through automatic updates, i added the wine repo previously
[13:42] <gryllida> !google > Muelli
[13:43] <laeg> Muelli: if relevant i've only just upgraded to 10.04, and there were some 'cleanups' done
[13:43] <Win> Muelli, I did lol and I can find nothing I did the chmod +x file name right click on file then open with wine I get the error
[13:43] <laeg> obsolete software removed etc
[13:44] <Pirate_Hunter> gryllida, not sure which type of FF your running I have just tried to check that option on my browser and couldn't find it and you havent read the link(s) I sent you, you dont have to download the apps from their but it may give you the latest firefox by replacing your current one
[13:44] <Muelli> laeg: hm. Is downgraing to  wine-1.1.42-0ubuntu4 good enough for you? If so, do a apt-get install wine=1.1.42-0ubuntu4 If not, try to find a .deb of your desired version :-\
[13:45] <gryllida> Pirate_Hunter: ok, I can add, I'm not using firefox from the repo, I've installed it manually from firefox website
[13:45] <Muelli> *downgrading even
[13:45] <marcin> hej
[13:45] <gryllida> Pirate_Hunter: and it does have help - check for updates feature, which says 'not enough permissions'
[13:46] <gryllida> Pirate_Hunter: I'm tired of trying to solve it today, back in 8 hours, will read on gksu too
[13:46] <Pirate_Hunter> gryllida, please state that when asking for help and if you really want to run FF as root gksudo will do with you belong to the amdin group
[13:46] <Pirate_Hunter> gryllida, ok no problem
[13:46] <gryllida> Pirate_Hunter: yes I am in sudoers
[13:47] <gryllida> Pirate_Hunter: yes I want to run it as root
[13:47] <JNGodbout> hello i have a Pesky Package which cannot be removed, and I can't install anything else while it exists. The package is bnetd
[13:47] <gryllida> Pirate_Hunter: and yes I don't know how
[13:47] <gryllida> Pirate_Hunter: "gksu -u user usr/local/firefox/firefox -P "nightly" -no-remote"  -what's wrong with this line?
[13:47] <JNGodbout> And I get this error: grep: /etc/bnetd/bnetd.conf: No such file or directory
[13:47] <JNGodbout> Please help 감사해
[13:48] <Pirate_Hunter> gryllida, I would have expected the extracted tar file to have a README explaining about upgrade options im downloading it now to see what is says
[13:48] <Muelli> JNGodbout: what are you trying to do? Can you paste full shell output?
[13:48] <JNGodbout> Muelli: Sure
[13:48] <laeg> Muelli: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/198720 - 1.2~rc4-0ubuntu1 is listed there but only rc5 available to download :(
[13:48] <Muelli> JNGodbout: using dpaste.com or so
[13:48] <gryllida> Pirate_Hunter: 22:18pm here.. hope you will be on in 8 hours, I'll come here then
[13:48] <Muelli> laeg: you might have an appropriate .deb in /var/cache/apt/archives.
[13:49] <JNGodbout> Muelli: http://dpaste.com/211970/
[13:49] <JNGodbout> Muelli: I have tried removing it several ways, until, in my anger, I deleted /etc/bnetd
[13:49] <JNGodbout> Muelli: So the error is slightly different to what it was before
[13:49] <Muelli> JNGodbout: looks like a bug to me :-) I'd file it... Will you? Try apt-get install --reinstall bnetd; apt-get purge bnetd.
[13:50] <JNGodbout> Muelli: It does look that indeed. Someone else on the internet had an identical problem with bnetd, and they solved it by getting the latest bnetd .deb and installing that. However, that did not work for me
[13:51] <Muelli> JNGodbout: Try apt-get install --reinstall bnetd; apt-get purge bnetd.
[13:51] <JNGodbout> Muelli: Same errors
[13:51] <slow-motion> hi
[13:52] <JNGodbout> Muelli: Where can I file this to? And is there some crazy, dangerous, risky way that I can kill this package?
[13:52] <Muelli> JNGodbout: hm. weird. Then I'd just do mkdir /etc/bnetd; touch /etc/bnetd.conf; apt-get purge bnetd :-)
[13:52] <laeg> Muelli: wine1.2_1.2~rc4-0ubuntu1~karmicppa1_i386.deb found but it was before my updade to lucid so to google..
[13:52] <Muelli> JNGodbout: let's try a sane way first ;-) To file a bug, do "ubuntu-bug bnetd".
[13:52] <JNGodbout> Muelli: The problems were around before I deleted /etc/bnetd though
[13:53] <Muelli> laeg: you might be able to dpkg -i /path/to/debfile it.
[13:54] <Pirate_Hunter> !hi
[13:54] <JNGodbout> Muelli: Is it still worth filing a bug now that the error code is different because I got rid of /etc/bnetd?
[13:54] <Muelli> JNGodbout: I'd say so.
[13:54] <laeg> Muelli: or just open wine1.2_1.2~rc4-0ubuntu1~karmicppa1_i386.deb from firefox with gdebi? also, should i sudo apt-get remove wine first and backup my .wine dir?
[13:55] <laeg> not karmic, lucid even - i have it found online.
[13:55] <Muelli> laeg: eh. yeah. good suggestions. They shouldn't do harm after all. So yeah, go ahead :-)
[13:56] <laeg> Muelli: okay - and that's the version pinned because it's no longer installed in synaptic?
[13:56] <aurilliance> I'm about to run this command from ~, is this safe? rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[13:56] <pimpman> sup. I just apt-get install oidentd on my fresh ubuntu server, then insstalled irssi, and i try connect to a server but the username still gives me a ~ in the host. Any idea why or what i need to do to fix it?
[13:57] <Muelli> aurilliance: no. Not unless gconfd is running.
[13:57] <Muelli> laeg: ah. what? Sorry, I don't follow you. You can see the versions installed and available with apt-cache policy
[13:57] <rohan> Hi
[13:58] <rohan> Hi i have a problem with the network manager
[13:58] <JNGodbout> Muelli: So I guess the next step is to reinstall?
[13:59] <Muelli> JNGodbout: have you tried mkdir /etc/bnetd; touch /etc/bnetd.conf; apt-get purge bnetd ?
[13:59] <JNGodbout> Yep
[13:59] <Muelli> JNGodbout: and? what's the output? success?
[14:00] <JNGodbout> Ah, that's interesting: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[14:00] <JNGodbout>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[14:00] <laeg> Muelli: i just mean synaptic/apt-get won't upgrade my rc4 to rc5 because i've removed rc5? installing with gdebi is separate from apt-get and doesn't qualify the software for autoupdates?
[14:00] <JNGodbout> hehehe
[14:00] <Esine> Hey. Pulseaudio is causing latency for me. Is there a way to temporarily disable it? This is 10.04.
[14:00] <JNGodbout> This package has been fucked over by a horse-donkey
[14:00] <JNGodbout> a thousand times
[14:00] <Pirate_Hunter> rohan, what is your problem nm?
[14:00] <fAn> hi '
[14:00] <oCean_> JNGodbout: watch the language please
[14:01] <fAn> everyone here from the us?
[14:01] <fAn> US*?
[14:01] <Voldenet> Ok, how do i pass spaces to bash scripts
[14:01] <h4f> where can I find repositories for gbrainy ?
[14:01] <oCean_> fAn: this is ubuntu technical support channel, for social chat join #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:01] <VCoolio> Voldenet: either put a backslash in front or quote the whole sequence
[14:01] <Pirate_Hunter> Voldenet, use \ to escape or ""
[14:01] <rohan> hey..whenever i create a new wireless connection..it goes kaput..it connects, disconnects, connects, disconnects..and so on and after some time the icon dissapears from the panel..then i have to start it manually by using gksu nm-applet command
[14:02] <bastid_raZor> !info gbrainy | h4f
[14:02] <VCoolio> Voldenet: here\ space or "here space"
[14:02] <rohan> but still then also i cant create new wireless connection
[14:02] <Muelli> laeg: hm. the next apt-get upgrade will probably upgrade to rc5. You can manually pin rc4, but don't ask me how to do it. It's easy enough though.
[14:02] <pimpman> anyone?
[14:02] <Voldenet> VCoolio, i tried
[14:02] <Pirate_Hunter> !wireless | rohan
[14:02] <fAn> LOL ok, thanks ocean
[14:03] <Voldenet> mount.cifs \\\\$ip\\$(echo $arg1 | sed 's/ /\\ /g') $mountfolder -o pass=none;
[14:03] <Voldenet> does not work for me
[14:03] <Voldenet> when folder got spaces
[14:03] <Voldenet> i got an error, that "\" is not supported mount.cifs argument
[14:03] <bastid_raZor> rohan: you shouldn't be running nm-applet as root.
[14:03] <rohan> i know but it wont start if i run it otherwise
[14:04] <rohan> for it to work perfectly i have to delete the newly created wireless connection
[14:04] <rohan> i want to connect my phone via ad hoc to my laptop
[14:05] <h4f> bastid_raZor: thanks but there is nothing said about extensions and repos
[14:06] <Pirate_Hunter> rohan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc not sure if it will help you but good luck or wait a while someone with more experience with your problem might show up
[14:06] <VCoolio> Voldenet: what if you do "$arg1" or "\\\\$ip\\$arg"
[14:06] <rohan> Pirate_Hunter : that didnt help much
[14:06] <rohan> but thanks a lot! anyways
[14:07] <bastid_raZor> h4f: you didn't ask about exentions. you asked how to find a package information.
[14:07] <bastid_raZor> h4f: firefox extensions come from mozilla and are found in your browser. not in a repository.
[14:08] <bastid_raZor> h4f: or.. gbrainy.. that is.. sorry confused you with another.
[14:09] <bastid_raZor> h4f: grainy is available in the repo's. as ubottu stated.
[14:09] <emergion> How could I run PHP 5.2x on Lucid?
[14:10] <Voldenet> VCoolio, "\\\\$ip\\$arg" results in "mount: invaild share, rtfm"
[14:10] <Voldenet> emergion, it depends on what server are you using
[14:11] <Voldenet> nginx is using php in fast-cgi
[14:11] <emergion> Apache
[14:11] <Voldenet> ah, want using module or cgi?
[14:12] <Voldenet> cgi: after installing php5-cgi edit your /etc/Apache2/httpd.conf
[14:12] <Voldenet> or wherever is that httpd
[14:12] <emergion> Voldenet, Oh good idea I was about to start messing with my sources list and thought that would be a very bad idea
[14:13] <emergion> Voldenet, Ah that package is 5.3.2?
[14:14] <pimpman> abnyone able to guide me to why my server is still showint ~ in hosts when oidentd is installed?
[14:14] <Voldenet> Sth like that
[14:15] <VCoolio> Voldenet: rtfm, that's not very kind, but I don't know what else you could do
[14:15] <Pirate_Hunter> pimpman, what do you expect it to show?
[14:15] <pimpman> if i isntall ident i expect it not to show the ! in hostname
[14:15] <Voldenet> VCoolio, which one? :|
[14:16] <Voldenet> i tried man bash and man mount.cifs
[14:16] <VCoolio> Voldenet: remove the spaces from the shared folders, I think that's easiest
[14:17] <Voldenet> That shares are not mine.
[14:17] <Voldenet> I would never use cifs to share anything
[14:18] <scorp7> visit this site and see who will bee NEW WORLD CHAMPION IN SOUTH AFRICA http://scorpijon.bloger.hr
[14:18] <vu1kan> !ot | scorp7
[14:18] <Pirate_Hunter> scorp7,  take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:18] <scorp7> visit this site and see who will bee NEW WORLD CHAMPION IN SOUTH AFRICA http://scorpijon.bloger.hr
[14:19] <vu1kan> scorp, please don't advertise in this channel
[14:19] <Pirate_Hunter> pimpman, what are you trying to do I have no clue, have never used oident... and don't know what it does, cna you explain
[14:20] <pimpman> You install 'oidentd' which basically makes users who log on irc, to NOT have the ~ in their hostname. EG: ~Pirate_Hu@
[14:20] <pimpman> if u have oidentd installed uyou would log in with: Pirate_Hu@ not ~Pirate_Hu@
[14:20] <michmich> hey i have a problem
[14:21] <laeg> Muelli: i just forced the different version via synaptic, there's a force version under the package menu. strangley it only seems to let be backdate to the versions since upgrading to 10.04 today, which does make sense because the karma versions aren't intended for lucid but it would be nice if it gave the option to download previous versions for lucid also
[14:21] <laeg> Muelli: ty for your help, i have learned some
[14:21] <laeg> :)
[14:21] <michmich> does anyone can tell me what this mean
[14:21] <michmich> strcmp("\200\207\206\205\351", "\207\327\225\327\217\322\207\327\227\212\323\215\200\323\207\320\351")
[14:21] <michmich> i mean the "\200" etc..
[14:21] <michmich> i know they are chars
[14:22] <michmich> but i can't understand the link between this and the ascii table or anything :(
[14:22] <tomlikeslinux> isn't that how to call up ascii characters
[14:22] <michmich> ha
[14:22] <michmich> tell me more
[14:23] <michmich> i guessed that \351 stands for "\n"
[14:23] <michmich> coz it ends the 2 strings
[14:23] <michmich> i know all the chars from the 1st arg
[14:23] <michmich> and i would decode the 2nd arg :D
[14:23] <Pirate_Hunter> pimpman, I have never even noticed that on irssi one sec let me check on my server
[14:23] <michmich> ps : made with ltrace
[14:24] <wise_cry1t> michmich: http://www.easycalculation.com/ascii-hex.php << this is an online calculatio and converter
[14:24] <michmich> wise_cry1t can i pv you ?
[14:24] <tomlikeslinux> would it be ascii or unicode?
[14:25] <Pirate_Hunter> pimpman, just out of curiosity why is that so important to you?
[14:25] <wise_cry1t> michmich: no sorry
[14:25] <Guest_606> hi there
[14:25] <pimpman> Pirate_Hunter: efnet has issues with connections without identd
[14:26] <michmich> wise_cry1t i just wanted to say that, in my prob, i can't understand between \200 and chars
[14:26] <platius> michmich;  looks like octel
[14:26] <oCean_> michmich: do you have a technical ubuntu issue?
[14:26] <Guest_606> i want to change my nick
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> Guest_606:  /nick Nickhere
[14:26] <michmich> platius looks like, but (200)8 = (80)hex
[14:27] <IlluminaX> can a usb flash drive work well as a "primary hard drive"?  This is for a LOW END system that won't need much "HD" space.  I was mainly wondering if there is a limit to read/write or if I will damage the chip doing so.
[14:27] <michmich> and (80)hex isn't a char :S
[14:29] <Pirate_Hunter> pimpman, man no clue, just did a quick search and didnt get much try checking the man pages and reading how to setup identd
[14:30] <pimpman> just apt-get install oidentd
[14:30] <pimpman> nothgin else
[14:31] <pimpman> http://pastebin.com/fXcQE9vm
[14:31] <pimpman> use that for /etc/oidentd.conf
[14:31] <pimpman> also oidentd doesnt allow users to change their login ident on irc
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> Identd  is old skool. :) I rember messing with it years and years ago.
[14:31] <CQ> hello, I have a sound problem... I'm going through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting right now, alsa details are at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=94531794bae838adbd8dc85c6391a1a4b9cd6adb and the error I see is at http://pastebin.com/c876whDn ... can someone please help?
[14:32] <epanortho> How do I run a command on all (e.g.) .jpg files in a directory?
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> I even recall a perl script that was a identd server was about 6 lines.
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> epanortho:  what do you mean by 'run' a jpg?
[14:32] <temik> Can someone suggest a GTD system for Linux which focuses on complex projects (materials lists, places etc.)?
[14:32] <kickingintender> i think he meant search
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> temik:  ive seen TiddlyWiki used for a GTD system. but never used it that way.
[14:32] <pakair> epanortho, man mogrify
[14:33] <CQ> epanortho: google for shell scripting, as in bash for loops etc.
[14:33] <RealBadApple> can anyone help with getting the touchpad of my new sony vaio vpcee23fx working? I have never encountered the touchpad not working at all, so, I am lost in a sea of 100 tab session in firefox with nothing learned but that the alps touchpad does not seem to be supported very well!
[14:33] <temik> Dr_Willis: Thanks, but I'm looking for something that is more desktop-oriented...
[14:34] <oCean_> CQ: please don't tell people to "go google"
[14:34] <oCean_> epanortho: can you elaborate a bit more on what you need?
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> temik:  im not even sure what that 'means' :)   There was some tools mentioned at the webupd8.org site i recall. but i dident pay much attention to them. Just saw them in their feeds.
[14:34] <epanortho> Dr_Willis: I don't; I meant running a command, e.g. tesseract, on every .jpg file in a directory.
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> epanortho:  'find' can be used for that and a bit of shell knowledge.
[14:35] <temik> Dr_Willis: I'm looking for something like "things" for mac.
[14:35] <robert> what is the command to find job id
[14:35] <CQ> oCean_: I'l phrase it differently next time, as in "you might want to look into bash for loops" ...
[14:35] <CQ> epanortho: read http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html#ss7.1
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> temik:  means nothing to me. So cant really advise much more.  Other then to suggest check that webupd8 site and perhaps lifehacker web site for what they reccomend.
[14:36] <iflema> epanortho *.jpg
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> epanortho:  tyesseract *.jpg dont work eh?
[14:36] <temik> Dr_Willis: Thanks! I'll look it up :)
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> Im trying to rember who was trying to play Starcraft earlier today in wine.. Its working fine for me in wine. :)
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> I finally found my cd.
[14:38] <IdleOne> confusedlinux it was Dr_Willis
[14:38] <vaul> People, how do I make a screenshot of gdm login windows without using virtual machine? Is this possible at all?
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> IdleOne:  ANd such a good nickname it was for him. :)
[14:38] <epanortho> iflema: It's a bit more complicated: "tesseract §1.tif §1 -l deu" (§1 is also the name of the "output file"
[14:39] <oCean_> epanortho: see here simple example http://paste.ubuntu.com/455918/
[14:39] <Esine> Dr_Willis: yeah SC works very well in wine. Notice there is an official patch from blizzard that removes the CD requirement (and need for a no-cd crack)
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> vaul:  it is possible to make applictions run on the gdm desktop.   you could run a terminal, then launch some screeshot apps from it.
[14:39] <RealBadApple> I never thought I would say this since my switched to linux about 6 years ago, but, thank GOD I left Windows on this machine! At least it knows how to use the touchpad! I am finally fed up with crap not working!
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> vaul:  or as root, you might be able to force an app to run on  the gdm desktop/screen.
[14:40] <Esine> vaul: or ssh in and DISPLAY=:0.0 import -window root gdm_screenshot.png
[14:40] <Esine> or just ctrl-alt-f1
[14:42] <epanortho> oCean_: Thanks!
[14:42] <AceKing> I started up my laptop this morning and couldn't get on the internet. I clicked on the connection and the only thing that's there is "Network Disabled". It's grayed out so I can't even click on it. Can someone help me to fix this?
[14:43] <vu1kan> AceKing can you right-click on your network monitor?
[14:43] <AdminX> To install the ATI drivers on BT4 is the command apt-get install fglrx ?
[14:43] <oCean_> epanortho: most welcome :)
[14:43] <AdminX> To install the ATI drivers is the command apt-get install fglrx ?
[14:43] <bastid_raZor> AdminX: you should ask in #backtrack-lunux
[14:44] <bastid_raZor> #backtrack-linux rather
[14:44] <pakair> AceKing, check /var/log/dmesg for errors
[14:44] <AceKing> vulkan, Thank you that worked. It must be the pain killers
[14:44] <abhi_nav> please suggest me useful docking aps. Docky is not useful. (I am not crossposting)
[14:44] <vu1kan> np...most of the issues i can solve are facepalm moments
[14:44] <AceKing> pakair, thanks, it was a dumb mistake on my part
[14:45] <pakair> AceKing, np, glad you got it working.
[14:45] <soreau> AdminX: What model gpu do you have?
[14:45] <AceKing> pakair, thanks, me too!!
[14:46] <AdminX> bastid_raZor: I am on there as well, but since BT4 is ubuntu is based I thought I would ask.
[14:46] <airtonix> soreau, AdminX backtrack is not supported here
[14:46] <soreau> airtonix: I dont care, just wanted to tell him if his card is supported at all by the proprietary driver
[14:47] <AdminX> soreau: HP DV7 laptop with ATI radeon card
[14:47] <airtonix> soreau, i dont care
[14:47] <soreau> airtonix: Obviously you do or you wouldnt have told the bt is unsupported here
[14:48] <airtonix> soreau, no really.  i don't
[14:48] <soreau> AdminX: The doesnt tell what model gpu you have. Try lspci|grep VGA
[14:48] <abhi_nav> hope someone take could have taken this much effort to address my question. :(  rather than takling who cares about what and who not
[14:49] <soreau> abhi_nav: No one cares about your question just the same
[14:49] <vu1kan> abhi_nav check out rocketdock
[14:49] <abhi_nav> vu1kan, ok
[14:49] <airtonix> vu1kan, ...
[14:50] <airtonix> abhi_nav, if docky is not useful to you then none of them will be
[14:50] <AdminX> soreau HD 4650
[14:50] <abhi_nav> airtonix, docky dont have option. i cant edit remove aps from it i cant set its position etc
[14:50] <soreau> AdminX: It is supported by the open radeon driver which should be installed and working already
[14:50] <airtonix> abhi_nav, by the way. rocketdock is windows only.
[14:51] <abhi_nav> airtonix, :(
[14:51] <airtonix> abhi_nav, of course you can move icons around on the dock, and+or move the dock to a part of the screen.
[14:51] <soreau> AdminX: If you want to try fglrx, use jockey to install it (and remove it, after you realize its crap)
[14:51] <abhi_nav> airtonix, i cant
[14:51] <abhi_nav> vu1kan, you fooled me
[14:51] <airtonix> soreau, and that any problems will be unsupported because you're not using straight ubuntu.
[14:52] <soreau> airtonix: Im not asking for support genius
[14:52] <AdminX> soreau: LOL, thanks I will give jockey a try.
[14:52] <airtonix> abhi_nav, you haven't tried hard enough. open the settings config and click on the dock then drag it.
[14:52] <airtonix> soreau, ragemoar
[14:52] <vu1kan> abhi_nav sorry, didn't realize it's win only; i was using on my flashdrive a couple of years ago, and recalled it was rather nice for what i wanted
[14:52] <abhi_nav> airtonix, also main problem is that it doenst goes behind all windows. so my all windows sit on above it (not top of it)
[14:52] <airtonix> vu1kan, to be honest its really not that great. it doesn't allow you to program your own plugins in python or mono for one thing.
[14:52] <abhi_nav> vu1kan, ok
[14:53] <airtonix> abhi_nav, then you need to check your compiz settings to ensure that the window rules prevent that
[14:53] <abhi_nav> airtonix, ok
[14:53] <chowlala> can someone help me get my syanaptics touchpad multitouch to work? =(
[14:54] <chowlala> the touchpad is working but the multitouch isn't
[14:54] <airtonix> abhi_nav, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/best-ubuntu-docks-vote.html
[14:55] <abhi_nav> airtonix, thanks
[14:55] <chowlala> airtonix: nice
[14:56] <chowlala> airtonix: was on cairo for a while, but was a little too complicated for my taste heh
[14:56] <airtonix> abhi_nav, im not sure if its listed there but you might like talika.
[14:57] <abhi_nav> airtonix, ok. i search it
[14:58] <Maletor> I'm on Ubuntu 10.4 on my MacBook. When I run 'speakertest -c6' everything works except for LFE. In alsamixer. Everything appears turned up. What's going on? How do I fix this? I've googled and run into a dead end. Please help!
[15:03] <clclclc> is there a remote desktop viewer for GNOME that you can use in windows?
[15:05] <ae86-drifter> is there any way possible to remote dektop from windows to a KDE or GNOME session?
[15:05] <nonix4> clclclc: dunno about gnome in particular, but vnc ought to be cross-platform.
[15:06] <Win> hello all when I try to install a program via wine I get the error
[15:06] <Win> install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executable
[15:06] <mei> Win: Which application?
[15:06] <IdleOne> Win: #winehq
[15:07] <ae86-drifter> Win u probs need to install net framework
[15:07] <Win> from windows and install via wine
[15:07] <ae86-drifter> not sure, ask in #winehq
[15:08] <slacker-> I'm upgrading grub to grub2 and the installer is asking me which devices it should automatically run. i'm running / on a raid1 (sda and sdb), do I select both sda and sdb in this dialog? md0 isn't an option
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> ae86-drifter:  vnc has widnows clients that can view the gnome remote desktop
[15:09] <Guest41125> help
[15:10] <airtonix> ae86-drifter, xming
[15:11] <Guest41125> quit
[15:11] <Guest41125> quit
[15:11] <Guest41125> exit
[15:11] <ae86-drifter> airtonix, thank you
[15:11] <slacker-> try a leading /
[15:11] <slacker-> :)
[15:11] <vodll> hi, does anyone know how to turn off pidgin alerts in ubuntu 10.4? it's driving me crazy telling me when each one of my 500+ contacts comes online
[15:12] <Hesay1st> (￣ε(#￣)
[15:13] <ae86-drifter> vodll, did you try looking in pidgin's configuration?>
[15:13] <vodll> ae86-drifter yes
[15:14] <ae86-drifter> vodll sorry i don't use pidgin
[15:14] <vodll> ae86-drifter what do you use?
[15:15] <ae86-drifter> aMSN
[15:15] <vodll> ae86-drifter does it work for yahoo?
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. Now qwhy would copying files to a usb flash drive. drop down to 600KB/Sec when it was 8+MB/sec earlier
[15:16] <vodll> Dr_Willis it happens to me all the time too
[15:16] <ae86-drifter> dont think so
[15:16] <vu1kan> vodll: you could try turning off the Libnotify Popups plugin
[15:16] <ae86-drifter> aussies dont use yahoo
[15:17] <vodll> vu1kan excuse my ignorance, where's that?:)
[15:17] <vodll> vu1kan found it
[15:17] <vodll> vu1kan many thanks, it was driving me mad :)
[15:18] <vu1kan> vodll i also use the Join/Part Hiding plugin...cuts down on the clutter in irc
[15:18] <vodll> vu1kan do you use pidgin for irc?
[15:19] <vu1kan> vodll yep, that's what i'm using now
[15:19] <slacker-> nobody on grub2 and / on raid?
[15:19] <Dr_Willis> slacker-:  i would carefully check the grub2 wiki page and forums..
[15:19] <vodll> vu1kan can you use irc and yahoo at the same time?
[15:19] <vu1kan> !grub2
[15:20] <vu1kan> vodll yep
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> slacker-:  or just bravely install it everywhere.. and hope it works :)
[15:20] <ae86-drifter> vodll yeah i used to use pidgin, then i switched to xchat/amsn
[15:20] <ae86-drifter> pidgin has some pretty cool plugins
[15:20] <vu1kan> vodll i'm actually in a yahoo room right now
[15:21] <matt__> im about to upgrade to 10.04 lts from 8.04ts
[15:21] <vu1kan> + getting im's from ppl
[15:21] <ae86-drifter> matt__ u should probs do a clean install
[15:21] <vodll> vu1kan how do you join yahoo rooms?
[15:21] <slacker-> matt: good luck
[15:21] <ikonia> ae86-drifter: why should he do a clean install ?
[15:21] <ikonia> ae86-drifter: there is a perfectly stable upgrade path
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> Every time ive been in a Yahoo Room. the bots outnuimbered the real people 10 to 1
[15:22] <cntrational> Dr_Willis: you are smarterbot
[15:22] <ae86-drifter> ikonia, sure well on two occasions it failed for me and both occasions i had to clean install over again
[15:22] <vu1kan> vodll click buddies>join a chat and select Yahoo from the drop down list, either type the room name or click 'room list'
[15:22] <ikonia> ae86-drifter: ok - so you're personal experiences have not worked out, so please don't say "do a clean install" as the upgrade works for thousands of people
[15:22] <ae86-drifter> ubuntu upgrades it is not very robust in my opinion
[15:23] <slow-motion> bbl
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> ive found upgrades in most OS's to not be very robust.
[15:23] <vodll> vu1kan thanks:) one more, i created an irc account, now how do i paralell connect them? [i'm using xchat right now for irc]
[15:23] <ikonia> ae86-drifter: thousands of people would disagree, it can have problems if you are not %100 in line with requirements
[15:23] <ae86-drifter> should probably ==> "do a clean install"... thats not what i said ikonia
[15:24] <vu1kan> vodll not sure i understand what you mean
[15:24] <ae86-drifter> i am just sharing my experience to benefit others
[15:24] <ikonia> ae86-drifter: that's exactly what you said
[15:24] <bastid_raZor> vodll: ask in #freenode ..they have all the answers
[15:24] <vodll> vu1kan how do you connect to irc with pidgin? i created the irc account and then?
[15:24] <ikonia> ae86-drifter: no - you are not saying "I've had 2 failures" you're saying you'd be better off doing a clean install as fact, based on you having to experiences
[15:24] <ae86-drifter> i said probably
[15:24] <slacker-> ahh.. If a RAID partitioning scheme is used during installation the grub boot loader will only be installed on the first hard drive instead of all the drives. Booting the system if the first drive has failed will not work. As a workaround users can manually install grub to each disk in the array using the grub-install command
[15:24] <ikonia> ae86-drifter: probably doesn't make it any better
[15:24] <vu1kan> vodll...oh...same as the procedure for joining a yahoo room
[15:24] <ae86-drifter> in your eyes
[15:25] <slacker-> so they actually recommend installing it on both drives
[15:25] <ae86-drifter> ur a dick
[15:25] <IdleOne> !language | ae86-drifter
[15:25] <Iraqi> Hello
[15:25] <slacker-> I thought that would upset the raid
[15:25] <inpxfx> LINUX .. making porn complicated since 19??
[15:25] <inpxfx> its true
[15:25] <loopidity> I put a live ubuntu disk in the laptop, and it looked like it did load ubuntu, but half an hour gone and only black screen
[15:25] <Iraqi> How can install file .tar.zag without internet??
[15:25] <ikonia> inpxfx: that topic is nothing to do with ubuntu - please drop it
[15:25] <vodll> vu1kan what do you input in username/password on an irc connection? [really silly question I know]
[15:25] <loopidity> never seen this happen with ubuntu
[15:25] <IdleOne> !ot | inpxfx
[15:25] <loopidity> how to load it now?
[15:25] <ikonia> inpxfx: untar it and check the README and INSTALL files
[15:25] <Pirate_Hunter> hey ikonia been a while, how you ding?
[15:26] <inpxfx> huh
[15:26] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: all good, I'm in #ubuntu-offtopic if you wanted to chat
[15:26] <vu1kan> vodll username would be your nick, and you can ignore the password unless you set one up with nickserve...either way nickserve will bug you about /identify
[15:26] <bastid_raZor> Iraqi: do what ikonia said to inpxfx
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> loopidity:  whats your video card?
[15:27] <ikonia> bastid_raZor: ahh, well spotted, thank you
[15:27] <loopidity> Dr_Willis to be frank i dont yet know
[15:27] <inpxfx> if ubuntu is loading and never starts up off the live cd theres a good chance its corrupt / video card old / u need to do a cold boot
[15:27] <matt__> ok ill start agin :S
[15:27] <loopidity> Dr_Willis I got this computer off an old lady who asked me PLEASE put ubuntu on it
[15:27] <jammin79> hi all
[15:27] <inpxfx> that happend to me a few times with an old laptop
[15:27] <loopidity> and then I try to boot off the live cd...
[15:27] <bastid_raZor> ikonia: its the simple things in life :)
[15:27] <matt__> think i jus caught someone suggesting clean install rather than upgrade
[15:27] <loopidity> its an old laptop though, looks like german laptop
[15:28] <ae86-drifter> ikonia, do you think the upgrade is fairly robust? what could possibly cause it to go wrong? I am sick of every time a new release comes out it fails for me, and i need to clean install again.
[15:28] <IdleOne> loopidity: lspci | grep VGA
[15:28] <jammin79> I don't have apt installed in my ubuntu server
[15:28] <bastid_raZor> jammin79: doesn't sound like its an ubuntu server then.
[15:28] <loopidity> IdleOne There is no way I get ubuntu boot up(or atleast see) and I can only log into xp
[15:28] <jammin79> yea cause I crap guy did remove it
[15:28] <loopidity> its all dark
[15:28] <vodll> vu1kan hm weird...must be doing something wrong since nothing happens once I click save and I don't get an option to join anything
[15:28] <inpxfx> ubuntu without internet access = soda coaster
[15:29] <matt__> so im about to upgrade from 8.04 server to 10.04
[15:29] <loopidity> ctrl alt F1 wouldnt work also
[15:29] <jammin79> I am just on the machine and it's quite crazy this
[15:29] <Iraqi> Please?
[15:29] <Iraqi> Install file .tar.gz downloaded before like wammu 0.3 without internet?
[15:29] <IdleOne> loopidity: ahh well you can check in Hardware configuration of XP. ##windows for more help with that
[15:29] <ikonia> Iraqi: untar the file and read the README and INSTALL files
[15:29] <inpxfx> imjust here for the females
[15:29] <jammin79> bastid_raZor: is there a way to get the apt back?
[15:29] <ikonia> inpxfx: stop with that sort of topic -you won't be told again
[15:29] <loopidity> ok, Idleone let me boot up xp, it takes ages.....
[15:29] <IdleOne> Please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines inpxfx
[15:29] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia, im currently multi-tasking but will be popping here often I rarely go to offtopic
[15:30] <inpxfx> sure apt-get install apt-get
[15:30] <matt__> and it says i MAY have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the default boot kernel to the newly installed 10.04 kernel.
[15:30] <Gwar> inpxfx, I think there is a problem with that line
[15:30] <jammin79> inpxfx: ..... no such file or directory
[15:30] <abhi_nav> just for all your info i found this regarding docs: http://linuxowns.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/the-best-and-worst-docks-for-ubuntu/
[15:30] <inpxfx> why is ikonia being mean to me :(
[15:30] <ikonia> abhi_nav: no-one was asking about it - so don't post it
[15:31] <abhi_nav> ikonia, we were discussing about it
[15:31] <jammin79> i have to install back apt...
[15:31] <inpxfx> oh i though~_~
[15:31] <Iraqi> sorry, bad net
[15:31] <ae86-drifter> matt__ you will be lucky if that is the only other thing you have to do
[15:31] <matt__> will the info for 10.04 allready be in menu.lst?
[15:31] <inpxfx> jammin it  might be on the live cd
[15:31] <Iraqi> ikon can tell me step by step to install.. please?
[15:31] <ikonia> abhi_nav: who was, I don't see anyone discussing docks
[15:31] <jammin79> eheh but the server is quite away ...like 2000 miiles
[15:31] <ikonia> jammin79: can you post the output of "uname -a" please
[15:31] <loopidity> IdleOne and when i run wubi on xp , why does it show everything in German, cant that be changed to english
[15:31] <ikonia> jammin79: from your server
[15:32] <ae86-drifter> matt__, create a backup image of your hard disk first
[15:32] <bastid_raZor> jammin79: what does lsb_release -a   tell you?
[15:32] <abhi_nav> ikonia, vu1kan and airtronix
[15:32] <abhi_nav> ikonia, some time ago
[15:32] <matt__> ok any suggestions whta to use
[15:32] <IdleOne> !locales > loopidity
[15:32] <jammin79> Linux www.bizdev-strategy.it 2.6.24-27-server #1 SMP Wed Jan 27 23:39:33 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:32] <jammin79> Linux www.--------  2.6.24-27-server #1 SMP Wed Jan 27 23:39:33 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:32] <inpxfx> im lookin jammin79
[15:32] <FloodBot2> jammin79: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:32] <ae86-drifter> clonezilla
[15:32] <Iraqi> Can any one help me to how install any file .tar.zg ?
[15:33] <jammin79> ok flood sorry about it
[15:33] <bastid_raZor> jammin79:  lsb_release -i ..rather
[15:33] <abhi_nav> Iran, this is compressed. unzip it first
[15:33] <ikonia> Iraqi: did you read what I told you to do ?
[15:33] <IdleOne> Iraqi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[15:33] <jammin79> Ubuntu
[15:34] <ikonia> jammin79: please post the output of "uname -a" from your server
[15:34] <Iraqi> ikonia: Sorry, my internet is bad so i miss your message... Can repty it if you can and thank you..
[15:34] <ikonia> Iraqi: untar the file and read the README and INSTALL files
[15:34] <inpxfx> -xvgf 'filename.tar.gz
[15:34] <inpxfx> tar -xvgf 'filename.tar.gz
[15:34] <Iraqi> ikonia and inpxfx Thank and wait..
[15:34] <jammin79> http://paste.ubuntu.com/455952/
[15:35] <SlidingHorn> jammin79, a cool little tool you can use to prevent flooding:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit    (then when someone tells you to post your outputs...)   uname -r | pastebinit
[15:35] <inpxfx> if its corrupt itll give u errors
[15:35] <jammin79> that's the output from uname -a
[15:35] <SlidingHorn> jammin79, for future reference :)
[15:35] <jammin79> thanks :!
[15:35] <inpxfx> ikonia u wanna meet me at walmart and fight!
[15:36] <jammin79> the nice point is that apt is not going :S
[15:36] <loopidity> Dr_Willis, this is what I see as the graphics card on XP, Intel(R) 82852/82855 GM/GME Graphics Controller
[15:36] <IdleOne> that should just work
[15:37] <loopidity> well, i get the ubuntu loading screen at startup, and then it gets dark all time
[15:37] <IdleOne> loopidity: burn a new live CD at slowest speed possible also check md5sum of file before burning.
[15:37] <Iraqi> ikonia: i install code tar -xvgf bluesniff-0.1.tar.gz but is freez
[15:38] <Iraqi> nothing happen
[15:38] <loopidity> infact, the same cd I used for another lady and it just workd fine
[15:38] <loopidity> i will burn at lower rate and see
[15:38] <Dr_Willis> loopidity:  you may also want to try a pendrive setup  it may boot better from a pendrive made with unetbootin
[15:38] <jammin79> did you get the paste about the uname?
[15:38] <loopidity> i did try, but this computer doesnt take usb for booting
[15:38] <ikonia> Iraqi: tar zxvf bluesniff-0.1.tar.gz
[15:39] <Iraqi> ikonia: Thank you ... Wait
[15:39] <vodll> vulkan: thanks it worked :D
[15:39] <vu1kan> vodll np, always like to help
[15:39] <Iraqi> ikonia: show me error is:
[15:39] <Iraqi> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[15:39] <Iraqi> tar: Child returned status 1
[15:39] <Iraqi> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[15:40] <FloodBot2> Iraqi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:40] <ikonia> Iraqi: run "file bluesniff-0.1.tar.gz"
[15:40] <ikonia> Iraqi: tell me what it says
[15:40] <burns1> lost wireless connection can't install driver
[15:40] <Iraqi> FloodBot2...I'm apologizy , I'm new here
[15:41] <Iraqi> ikonia: Please  wait
[15:41] <Adola> Hi! Is there a way to see how much bandwith each application is using?
[15:41] <Adola> network bandwith.
[15:41] <ikonia> Adola: look at ntop maybe
[15:41] <cntrational> how long does it take for rsync to copy files
[15:41] <loopidity> against which file should the md5sum be done? iso?
[15:41] <ikonia> cntrational: depends on a lot of things, impossible to say
[15:41] <Iraqi> ikonia: is says: bluesniff-0.1.tar.gz: POSIX tar archive
[15:42] <ikonia> Iraqi: tar xvf bluesniff-0.1.tar.gz
[15:42] <Iraqi> ikonia: Thank you...Wait...
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> this is when i normally suggest the 'unp' command. :)
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> !info unp
[15:43] <Iraqi> ikonia: Is done.. Then?
[15:43] <ikonia> Iraqi: go into the directory and read the README and INSTALL files
[15:43] <cntrational> ikonia: well, trying to copy a 20.6 GB /home to a new partition, how long do you estimate that it'll take?
[15:43] <aurilliance> I"m trying to install the gnome2-global-menu package from the apt line deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/globalmenu-team/ppa/ubuntu lucid main, but apt-get stalls when it gets to http://ppa.launchpad.net
[15:43] <aurilliance> anyone have any suggestions?
[15:43] <ikonia> cntrational: as I've just said, depends on a lot of things, impossible to say
[15:44] <bastid_raZor> Dr_Willis: i actually have a script 'uncprs' that does just that.
[15:44] <cntrational> oh <.<
[15:44] <Iraqi> ok..Thank you very much  IKONIA @>'--
[15:44] <IdleOne> cntrational: several hours at least
[15:44] <cntrational> IdleOne: ouch
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:   theres been some server issues the alst few days.. but ive not noticed any today.
[15:44] <bastid_raZor> http://pastebin.com/w7cJTT5a
[15:44] <IdleOne> cntrational: like ikonia said, depends on many factors so it is impossible to say exactly
[15:45] <matt__> im about to upgrade from 8.04 server to 10.04and it says i MAY have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the default boot kernel to the newly installed 10.04 kernel.will the info for 10.04 allready be in menu.lst?
[15:45] <aurilliance> ?
[15:46] <wiesshund> yes
[15:46] <Iraqi> ikonia: Sorry, but nothing in README file to important for complete my install
[15:46] <ikonia> Iraqi: README and INSTALL file tell you exactly how to install it
[15:46] <matt__> so i will just have to make it defaiult
[15:46] <wiesshund> yes matt
[15:46] <matt__> ok thanks
[15:46] <wiesshund> or simply remove the other kernals after you are satified with 10
[15:46] <Iraqi> ikonia: Please wait ...Thank
[15:47] <wiesshund> kernels*
[15:47] <matt__> so i will still be able to boot 8.04?
[15:47] <Iraqi> ikonia: in file INSTAL: Installation
[15:47] <Iraqi> This has only been tested on RedHat 9 with a stock kernel.
[15:47] <ikonia> Iraqi: yes ?
[15:47] <Iraqi> and lap lap..
[15:48] <loopidity> IdleOne, could it be I should change the screen resolution on windows for ubuntu to work after restarting?
[15:48] <Iraqi> nothing there ikonia..
[15:48] <ikonia> Iraqi: the README AND the INSTALL fie
[15:48] <IdleOne> loopidity: nope
[15:48] <ikonia> file
[15:48] <wiesshund> matt__ until you remove the old kernels
[15:48] <loopidity> ok
[15:48] <matt__> oh how do i do that
[15:48] <cntrational> IdleOne: oh it just finished yay
[15:49] <matt__> ok ill do search
[15:49] <wiesshund> matt__ how come you still are running an 8.x version?
[15:49] <matt__> thanks
[15:49] <Iraqi> ikonia: I want connection my phone with my Laptop so with application is good and where i get it and how download it?
[15:49] <zhoujilong> Good evening. Would like to make a new friend.
[15:49] <Iraqi> Please ......Thank
[15:49] <matt__> was 8.04 lts server
[15:49] <ikonia> Iraqi: the INSTALL file, read it
[15:49] <kroson> guys i need to mount an iso image
[15:49] <kroson> what is the best software for it?
[15:49] <Iraqi> zhoujilong..Good eveing too sure i like it
[15:49] <kroson> gmount-iso didnt work for me in this iso!
[15:49] <kroson> thanks :)
[15:49] <zhoujilong> Can do.
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> kroson:  mount command can do that.
[15:49] <bastid_raZor> !iso | kroson
[15:49] <oCean_> zhoujilong: this is ubuntu technical support, not social chat
[15:50] <Iraqi> ikonia: i tell you nothiong in file README and INSTALL
[15:50] <ikonia> Iraqi: hang on
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> kroson:  i had a right click menu once that had a ;mount' option. but i am not sure where it came from
[15:50] <kroson> bastid_raZor: didnt work for me :S, says i need to specify the filesystem of the archive
[15:50] <Iraqi> oCean: you Team Ubuntu?
[15:50] <zhoujilong> Have no friends in America;
[15:50] <oCean_> Iraqi: nope, just one of many volunteers
[15:51] <kroson> Dr_Willis: mine has too but it does nothing
[15:51] <Dr_Willis> kroson:  try -t iso9660, or -t udf as an option
[15:51] <oCean_> zhoujilong: stop please, this is not social chat
[15:51] <Iraqi> zhoujilong..I'm from Iraq not USA
[15:51] <Dr_Willis> kroson:  what is this iso supposed to be?
[15:51] <spermcube> hi, is there a tool for managing users in the terminal
[15:51] <thune3> Iraqi: it is a perl program, it says it requires installing "redfang" and a perl library "Curses::Application" from cpan.
[15:51] <ikonia> Iraqi: you are wasting my time - it gives you the URL's for install instructions in the INSTALL file
[15:52] <Iraqi> ikonia: no no just i asking help man
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> spermcube:  theres dozens of command line commands for 'managing' users.. depending on what you want to do
[15:52] <spermcube> ie, not adduser, chgrp etc, more of an allround tool for managing users and group (like in the gui)
[15:52] <Iraqi> any way thank you very much ikonia i will search anther way
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> spermcube:  oh a 'control panel' thing.. never noticed.
[15:52] <ikonia> Iraqi: I told you to read the INSTALL file, and you say there is nothing in there, yet it clearly says you need "this software visit website address for info and install instructions"
[15:52] <ikonia> Iraqi: that's called wasting my time
[15:52] <Iraqi> ikonia sorry to distrubid your time
[15:53] <ikonia> Iraqi: you can also email the software developer on gdead@shmoo.com which is also listed on the website
[15:53] <spermcube> Dr_Willis: yeah
[15:53] <brontoeee> i'am trying to video/audio record an openGL accelerated app, video works, but i get no audio, clues? (the app name is glc)
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> spermcube:  i just have 4 users. so  i dont need sich things
[15:53] <spermcube> Dr_Willis: good for you :P
[15:54] <Iraqi> ikonia: forget it , i will search better then application and easy
[15:54] <Iraqi> Thank
[15:54] <Iraqi> Who have torrent " Vuze"?? Please
[15:55] <ikonia> Iraqi: look on the web
[15:55] <Iraqi> ikonia: Thank you
[15:55] <Zol> The password for sudo, is it the password I set for the user when I created it? or the password for root?
[15:55] <IdleOne> Zol: correct
[15:55] <Zol> IdleOne: Which one?
[15:55] <IdleOne> the user password
[15:55] <ikonia> Zol: there is no password for root, it's your user password
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> Iraqi:  theres dozens of other torrent clients out there also.
[15:55] <IdleOne> Zol: the pass you set.
[15:56] <Zol> Thanks
[15:56] <IdleOne> Zol: ubuntu has no root password
[15:56] <IdleOne> !noroot
[15:56] <Zol> Thanks
[15:56] <Iraqi> Dr_willis: i'm new in bt4 so i want install torrent , so how install Vuze on bt4?
[15:57] <ikonia> Iraqi: you're using back track ?
[15:57] <Iraqi> please..
[15:57] <IdleOne> heh
[15:57] <IdleOne> Iraqi: #backtrack-linux
[15:57] <Iraqi> ikonia Back Track 4 Final
[15:57]  * airtonix rages
[15:57] <ikonia> Iraqi: then join #backtrack-linux - this is ubuntu support only in this channel
[15:57] <Iraqi> Idle0ne: what?
[15:57] <IdleOne> Iraqi: join #backtrack-linux - this is ubuntu support only in this channel
[15:58] <jammin79> hey still I don't have a apt working
[15:58] <peturi> What is wrong with RecordMyDesktop? The .ogv file made by the software do not work once uploaded to youtube... there seams to be some kind of an error in them.
[15:58] <Iraqi> ikonia: i'm new login in  so i didn't know using too much sorry can i stay here
[15:58] <jammin79> it seems nothing here
[15:58] <ikonia> Iraqi: no - sorry, support is in #backtrack-linux
[15:58] <IdleOne> Iraqi: type /join #backtrack-linux
[15:58] <Iraqi> Idle0ne, Sorry i can get there
[15:58] <airtonix> ...
[15:58] <Iraqi> when i type it please?
[15:58] <IdleOne> !register | Iraqi
[15:59] <Dr_Willis> Iraqi:  i suggest you learn to use the package manager tools for your disto.
[15:59] <Iraqi> ubottu : please i'm not clear how i do that?
[15:59] <IdleOne> Iraqi: please type /join #freenode
[15:59] <Dr_Willis> Iraqi:  read at ->  http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[15:59] <Iraqi> Dr_Willis.. is show me error and thank
[15:59] <ikonia> Iraqi: type "/join #freenode" and ask for help on how to get into #backtrack-linux
[16:00]  * airtonix rages some more
[16:00] <ikonia> ok - enough now
[16:00] <Iraqi> ok i will type it thank
[16:00] <Iraqi> #freenode
[16:00] <ikonia> Iraqi: "/join #freenode"
[16:00] <wiesshund> lol
[16:00] <wnstn> I cant seem to ssh into my desktop from my netbook, I try    ssh username@host      ssh username@public_ip    and  ssh public_ip         and it just times out. any ideas?
[16:00] <IdleOne> Iraqi: it is extremely important that you follow instructions properly
[16:01] <ikonia> he's in
[16:01] <kroson> Dr_Willis: well i made it with FuriusISO
[16:01] <kroson> tks
[16:01] <Dr_Willis> wnstn:  you do have the ssh server installed on the desktop? on the desktop box try 'ssh localhost'
[16:01] <Iraqi> ikonia and Idle0ne Thank you very much i'm there but can too i watch here too? Please!!!
[16:02] <ikonia> Iraqi: you are welcome to stay in the channel, just don't ask for help
[16:02] <IdleOne> Iraqi: you can watch but we will not be able to help you with bt4
[16:02] <jammin79> I don't have apt working now
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> Iraqi:  and you may want to consider using the normal 'ubuntu' and not bt4.
[16:02] <jammin79> there is a way without cd to reinstall it?
[16:02] <Iraqi> ikonia & Idle0ne Thank you very much
[16:02] <ikonia> jammin79: do you have dpkg
[16:03] <Iraqi> Dr_Willis : i did using ubuntu 9 but not to much support my Lpatop
[16:03] <Iraqi> My Laptop HP tx 2654 touch
[16:03] <jammin79> yes
[16:04] <ikonia> jammin79: you can re-install it using dpkg then
[16:04] <ClevelandRock> Would anybody mind reading a forum post? It pretty much explains my problem. http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9517263&postcount=13
[16:04] <jammin79> a hint about that
[16:05] <ikonia> jammin79: download the apt deb's from the repo's on the web, then use dpkg to install them
[16:06] <IdleOne> ClevelandRock: what is the problem?
[16:06] <ClevelandRock> If you don't want to read the post, basically, I need the "libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3" library, which is apparently unavailable.
[16:06] <qdb> how to install karm in ubuntu 9.10 ?
[16:06] <Dr_Willis> !info karm
[16:06]  * Dr_Willis wonders what karm is
[16:07] <ClevelandRock> You mean Karmic?
[16:07] <qdb> no
[16:07] <LJRuff> How do I kill a process? (Iceweasel)
[16:07] <qdb> karm is timer
[16:07] <qdb> stopwatch
[16:07] <IdleOne> ClevelandRock: what version of ubuntu?
[16:08] <IdleOne> ClevelandRock: also you are mixing ubuntu repos with debian repos. I am sure you have already been told that is not a good idea
[16:08] <ClevelandRock> IdleOne: 10.04
[16:08] <ClevelandRock> IdleOne: Also, it's for a game, which apparently requires that library.
[16:08] <IdleOne> ClevelandRock: install libstdc++6
[16:08] <ClevelandRock> IdleOne: It's already installed.
[16:09] <Iraqi> ikonia in back track channel show me error can't send message?
[16:09] <IdleOne> !identify
[16:10] <peturi> Can anyone recomment a good screen capture (video) software for ubuntu?
[16:10] <qdb> i have now stopwatch installed, but i want to test karm
[16:10] <IdleOne> ClevelandRock: so basically you need an older version of libstdc++6. check packages.ubuntu.com
[16:10] <jmburgess> peturi: gtk-recordmydesktop
[16:10] <wnstn> Dr_Willis: i can ssh into localhost, but still getting timeout when I try remotely
[16:10] <peturi> jb_: recordmydesktop sucks, the ogv files it produces are not standard and youtube for an example won't read it.
[16:10] <oCean_> qdb: if it's not in the repositories, you have to download and build it yourself
[16:11] <qdb> ok
[16:11] <qdb> then i ll use stopwatch
[16:11] <peturi> jmburgess: recordmydesktop sucks, the ogv files it produces are not standard and youtube for an example won't read it.
[16:11] <ClevelandRock> IdleOne: How do I know what packages contain libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3?
[16:12] <qdb> if it is not in repository does that mean that i cannot use package that was in older ubuntu?
[16:12] <airtonix> peturi, jmburgess i find that ffmpeg does a better job
[16:12] <jmburgess> peturi: Then try istanbul, I have heard good things about that.  Also I always just covnert the ogv into an avi anyways
[16:12] <airtonix> ClevelandRock, using apt-file search <blah>
[16:12] <qdb> does it mean that it works buggy?
[16:12] <peturi> jmburgess: That's a very ugly workaround
[16:12] <Iraqi> ikonia : can you tell me please where i get  PWF and WiFu hacked can download it free please if you can
[16:12] <IdleOne> ClevelandRock: let me do a little hunting
[16:13] <ClevelandRock> airtonix: That was one of the first things I tried. No results.
[16:13] <ikonia> Iraqi: what part of "we do not support backtrack linux in this channel" did I not make clear
[16:13] <ClevelandRock> IdleOne: Thanks.
[16:13] <ikonia> Iraqi: do NOT ask for support using it again.
[16:13] <airtonix> ClevelandRock, i assume you have it installed though ?
[16:13] <oCean_> ClevelandRock: if you don't have apt-file installed, you could alternatively search packages.ubuntu.com
[16:13] <Iraqi> ikonia : so sorry
[16:13] <ClevelandRock> airtonix: I do have it installed.
[16:13]  * airtonix thinks Iraqi is a troll.
[16:13] <ClevelandRock> oCean_: I do have it installed.
[16:14] <qdb> oCean_, it is in old ubuntu, dapper as i know, why it is not in 9.10? it won't work well?
[16:14] <qdb> may be it is in other package? oCean_ ?
[16:15] <Iraqi> ikonia: give me link download Ubuntu but support " HP Pavilion tx 2500"
[16:16] <ikonia> Iraqi: I cannot make ubuntu's device support change
[16:16] <Iraqi> ikonia: ok sorry and thank
[16:16] <oCean_> ClevelandRock: ah, ok. A quick search on libstdc++ does not show any file you are looking for.
[16:16] <IdleOne> ClevelandRock: you may want to follow airtonix or oCean_
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> wnstn:  ssh suports a -v and -vv and -vvv option to get vervbose error messages
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> !download | Iraqi
[16:17] <ClevelandRock> IdleOne: What do you mean "follow"?
[16:17] <peturi> jmburgess: ok i just tried istanbul, apart from beeing named after a a fucking arab city, it uses the KDE libs and draged down my machine with lag and shit, had to execute kill in order to stop it. Any other ideas?
[16:17] <IdleOne> !languahe | peturi
[16:17] <IdleOne> !language | peturi
[16:17] <Iraqi> ubottu i want support my laptop "HP Pavilion tx 25xx"
[16:17] <oCean_> qdb: yes, indeed. "karm"  is in package ktimetracker.
[16:18] <qdb> thank you
[16:18] <Iraqi> i installed befer but not support all my devices
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> Iraqi:  that is the channel 'robot' its not a real person. If you want to try ubuntu on your HP. then go get a ubuntu ISO and insatll ubuntu on to your pc.
[16:18] <IdleOne> Iraqi: ubottu is a robot it does not answer questions it only provides information that has been given to it.
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> Iraqi:  and what version was that?
[16:18] <Iraqi> 8 and 9
[16:18] <peturi> ubottu: No.
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> Iraqi:  and we are now on version 10.04
[16:19] <IdleOne> peturi: yes
[16:19] <ownlife> Hello! I'm wondering what the best program is to emulate windows in Lucid. Not just apps, I want to install windows in an emulator!
[16:19] <jmburgess> ownlife: Look into KVM or Virtualbox, both very good
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> ownlife:  try virtualbox then.
[16:19] <ownlife> jmburgess|Dr_Willis: Thank you! I'll try Virtualbox!
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> ownlife:  you normally emulate hardware, or a whole pc and install an os. :) not emulate 'windows'
[16:20] <Iraqi> Look where i can talk by arabic there are staff ubuntu but talk by arabic?? please
[16:20] <IdleOne> !arabic
[16:20] <Iraqi> ubottu: Thank you very much that very good
[16:20] <Over^Kill> Having some problems with my NIC card being recognized, I have a Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit Controller - any help would be appriciated, running latest version of Ubuntu x64
[16:21] <ownlife> Dr_Willis: I just want xp on my desktop ;) Probably why I couldn't google it, using the wrong terminology. Thank you!
[16:21] <Over^Kill> I cant seem to see it in the device manager thing
[16:21] <Dr_Willis> ownlife:  what are you needing to run In xp ?
[16:23] <Over^Kill> can someone point me in the right direction to download the drivers maybe?
[16:23] <Iraqi> ubottu: no one in ther :'(
[16:24] <Dr_Willis> Iraqi:  eventually you will learn that 'ubottu' is not a real person.
[16:24] <laeg> does power management not come into affect when vlc is open? if so, will it differentiate between media playing in vlc and media that has finished?
[16:24] <Iraqi> Dr_Willis: What you mean?
[16:25] <IdleOne> Iraqi: ubottu is a robot it does not answer questions it only provides information that has been given to it.
[16:25] <Dr_Willis> Iraqi:  'robot' 'program' 'not a real person'
[16:25] <ClevelandRock> Apparently, I got disconnected or something.
[16:26] <Iraqi> Dr_Willis and Idle0ne ok ok thank you i'm understan now is a machine
[16:26] <thune3> ClevelandRock: this http://fedora-help.blogspot.com/2009/08/installing-j2ee-in-ubuntu-linux-with.html recommends at the bottom, downloading the deb from debian and installing. I can't speak to any problems this might cause.
[16:27] <lost> how to get gcc 4.2
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> lost:  why do you need one that old?
[16:28] <Iraqi> Dr_Willis: If you install bt4 you will see is show before login is "ubuntu 8"
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> lost:  it may not even be in the repos. (depending on the version of ubuntui you are using.
[16:28] <jmburgess> lost: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.2
[16:28] <lost> Dr: cuz gcc check failed on nvidia install
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> Iraqi:  I never plan on using 'bt4' i dont need it.
[16:28] <Iraqi> so that mean is back track 4 final is ubuntu !right?
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> lost:  Why are you not using the nvidia drivers from teh repos
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> Iraqi:  its 'based' on ubuntu. but is not  'ubuntu'
[16:29] <lost> Dr: i have got an (1) error you wanna see
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> Iraqi:  i could make my own Ubuntu-variant and radically change things.. it would not be 'ubuntu'
[16:29] <Iraqi> Dr_Willis: all application hack wireless in back track that my probelm , in ubuntu none application for hack wireless
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> lost:  an error with using the package manager drivers? or whth the nvidia-installer?
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> Iraqi:  im not sure your skill level is up to 'hacking wireless' and any programs/packages in BT4 are proberly avail in ubuntu.  or in some PPA repos for ubuntu.
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> Iraqi:  you may want to increase your skill in linux fundamentals first.
[16:30] <Iraqi> Today is my first time i using internet in Linux and today i success to did that after 3 month hard work
[16:31] <lost> Dr: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/455966/
[16:32] <nik81> hi//
[16:32] <wiesshund> Anyone familiar with splashtop/expressgate?
[16:32] <Iraqi> Dr_Willis: did you know very cleaver e-book to learn linux?
[16:32] <laeg> does power management not come into affect when vlc is open? if so, will it differentiate between media playing in vlc and media that has finished?
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> Iraqi:  there are 1000's of web sites and 1000's of books/pdf/ebooks out there for linux.  check any search engine.
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> !manual | Iraqi
[16:33] <DexTerDDIT> i need some help with a pppoe connection sharing over a network card is DHCP support  ( i tried dnsmasq with ipmasq but it did not work out ) ...
[16:34] <Iraqi> Dr_Willis : i want one e-book is clever and good you use it or you saw it is good
[16:34] <ikonia> Iraqi: that is offtopic for this channel
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> Iraqi:  there is no 'one' ebook to cover everthing.
[16:34] <Iraqi> Dr_Willis: i'm user Windows so i want change to linux
[16:34] <Over^Kill> Should the CD-ROM show up under Places/Home Folder?
[16:34] <ikonia> Iraqi: this channel supports the ubuntu operating system, not your learning linux
[16:34] <ikonia> Iraqi: this will be your last warning to stay on topic for the channel
[16:35] <Iraqi> ikonia: sorry
[16:35] <wiesshund> Iran http://www.amazon.com/Ubuntu-Linux-Dummies-Paul-Sery/dp/0470125055
[16:35] <Dr_Willis> Iraqi: start with the ubuntu manual, and work out from there.
[16:35] <IdleOne> !manual > Iraqi
[16:35] <Iraqi> ikonia: you have bad heart
[16:35] <ClevelandRock> Does anybody know how to add http://archive.debian.org/debian/ to my software sources?
[16:36] <Over^Kill> am new to Ubuntu just cant get this NIC card working
[16:36] <Over^Kill> I have the drivers on the CD
[16:36] <Over^Kill> I think
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> ClevelandRock:  using debian repos in ubuntu - is a BAD idea.
[16:36] <IdleOne> ClevelandRock: you are looking to break your system by doing that
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> Over^Kill:  you could just mount it by hand. or look in /media/cdrom to see if its there
[16:36] <ClevelandRock> Dr_Willis: How else can I get "libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3"?
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> ClevelandRock:  i never heard why you needed it.
[16:37] <ClevelandRock> Dr_Willis: It's a required library for the Linux version of Return to Castle Wolfenstein.
[16:37] <Over^Kill> Dr_Willis Just finished installing Ubuntu the CD-ROM isnt mounted by default?
[16:37] <Dr_Willis> ClevelandRock:  i would suggest you check the various ubuntu game forums. there might be a work around.  You are willing to totally break your system for an old game?
[16:38] <Dr_Willis> Over^Kill:  ive never noticed. if its not mounted.. then mount it.
[16:38] <rv1s> hello i am looking for a command line tool that allows me to read the "TPE2" (band/orchestra/...) ID3 tag from mp3 files. id3v2 only allows me to write this tag and for example id3info just does not display the "TPE2" field.
[16:38] <Over^Kill> Dr_Willis sorry im not sure how to do that :/
[16:38] <ClevelandRock> Dr_Willis: No I'm not…
[16:38] <Over^Kill> I can follow instructions but I am very new to this
[16:38] <Dr_Willis> Over^Kill:  sudo mount /media/cdrom
[16:38] <Over^Kill> ok
[16:38] <lost> how to SYSSRC auto?
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> ClevelandRock:  i would suggest finding some new games to play then. :)  that quakelive works in linux.
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> Over^Kill:  then look in /media/cdrom to see the cd. (if it mounts)
[16:39] <michaelxq> where do you find tutorials for ubuntu terminal commands
[16:40] <Dr_Willis> michaelxq:  terminal commands arenot normally 'ubuntu' specific. check out sites for shell/bash/command line tutorials
[16:40] <tic^> !bash | michaelxq
[16:40] <ClevelandRock> Dr_Willis: There are plenty of games that work on Ubuntu, so I don't see why I should have to play this one in particular on Windows.
[16:40] <Over^Kill> said cant find media/cdrom in etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[16:40] <Dr_Willis> Over^Kill:  you did use sudo mount /media/cdrom ? with the /media ? not 'media/cdrom' ?
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> Over^Kill:  or try mounting it this way 'sudo mkdir /media/cdrom' 'sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom'
[16:41] <asdf1> hello
[16:41] <asdf1> how can i restart my pc with a command?
[16:41] <asdf1> sudo reboot?
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> asdf1:  'sudo reboot' works wonders
[16:42] <arand> asdf1: Indeed
[16:42] <asdf1> i want to make sure this
[16:42] <Dr_Willis> make sure? if it works.. it works.. :) whats to be sure about?
[16:42] <hrishi> asdf1 : why don't u try?
[16:42] <asdf1> guys i have a bug propably with on gnome panel
[16:42] <asdf1> there are some white stips
 Block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[16:43] <iKb> asdf1: have you updated?
[16:43] <asdf1> have anyone hear about it?
[16:43] <asdf1> iKb:  no
[16:43] <asdf1> i have the 10.04  ftom clean install
[16:43] <Dragzard> Is there a support channel for totem?
[16:43] <asdf1> srom*
[16:43] <iKb> sudo apt-get update
[16:44] <iKb> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:44] <michaelxq> how do i make a file hidden?
[16:44] <loopidity> ah! getpwid_r() failed due to unknown user id, while F6 durin bootup
[16:44] <asdf1> iKb:  i have to  update the system?
[16:44] <arand> michaelxq: rename it with a " . " in front
[16:44] <laeg> does power management not come into affect when vlc is open? if so, will it differentiate between media playing in vlc and media that has finished?
[16:44] <duffydack> michaelxq, either name it with a . or make a file called .hidden and put its name in there.
[16:44] <iKb> asdf1: yes
[16:45] <michaelxq> arand: thanks
[16:45] <michaelxq> duffydack: thanks
[16:45] <arand> loopidity: That error iv very common and most likely has nothing to do with your actual problem.
 now I have media under name@name-desktopL/media/cdrom$ but it shows nothing on the CD
[16:46] <arand> loopidity: Unless your problem is simply that the error is visible.
[16:46] <aretrfre34> help me, anyone http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9517413#post9517413
[16:46] <loopidity> arand the screen goes black, after loading the live cd
[16:46] <xmagixx> anyone know how to install my webcam in 10.04 - it's a creative Live! IM pro webcam
[16:47] <loopidity> arand, and hitting F6 says so on the terminal screen
[16:47] <arand> loopidity: What happens if you try the kernel option "nomodeset=1"
[16:47] <ubuntu> I'm having a problem with 10.04 and my display. As soon as the splash screen is supposed to load I lose signal to the monitor. Installing 9.10 works but as soon as I upgrade to 10.04 it breaks again.
[16:47] <Over^Kill> seriously this thing doesnt install your CD-ROM by default?
[16:47] <DasEi> xmagixx: try if cheese finds it
[16:48] <loopidity> arand let me see,
[16:48] <xmagixx> DasEi sudo apt-get install cheese ?
[16:48] <sarp> hello again
[16:48] <arand> loopidity: Yea, I have gotten that error message on a machine that booted fine otherwise, so it's likely unrelated.
[16:48] <Dragzard> Does anyone know how to get a internet radio station playing just on the broswer page?  I have all the plug-ins and the extras but totem can't play a stream just from the page.
[16:48] <Over^Kill> or NIC card.... am not sure what I am supposed to do with an OS that didnt load half my hardware
[16:48] <ne1k0> I'm having a problem with 10.04 and my display. As soon as the splash screen is supposed to load I lose signal to the monitor. Installing 9.10 works but as soon as I  upgrade to 10.04 it breaks again.
[16:48] <sarp> how can i change my dns settings
[16:49] <sarp> somebody help me!
[16:49] <loopidity> arand,  where to do nomodset..thing?
[16:49] <sarp> how can i change my dns settings
[16:49] <arand> loopidity: If you press, I think F6 on the liveCD screen
[16:49] <aretrfre34> !wayttd | sarp
[16:49] <erUSUL> sarp: how do you connect to nternet ?
[16:49] <erUSUL> sarp: how do you connect to internet ?
[16:49] <sarp> ethernet
[16:49] <xmagixx> anyone know how to install my webcam in 10.04 - it's a creative Live! IM pro webcam
[16:50] <loopidity> arand, do i check it
[16:50] <erUSUL> sarp: network manager ?
[16:50] <bruenig> dhclient
[16:50] <sarp> networkmanager
[16:50] <arand> loopidity: And choose other, then you get to manual editing of the kernel line, and you just type it there
[16:50] <aretrfre34> xmagixx:you need kernel module
[16:50] <lost> *** Unable to determine the target kernel version. ***
[16:50] <erUSUL> sarp: right click on the NM icon and choose edit connections, edit the ipv4 settings
[16:50] <xmagixx> aretrfre34 what's that and how do i get it ?
[16:50] <erUSUL> sarp: of the correct connection
[16:50] <ne1k0> Is anyone aware of issues with 10.04 and either Radeon HD 4000 or Samsung SyncMaster displays? I lose DVI signal right after grub loads.
[16:51] <aretrfre34> xmagixx:if you can't write them google out them and install
[16:51] <Over^Kill> Trying to get my CD-ROM working I last got Block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only: mount: you must specify the filesystem type (Anyone?)
[16:51] <lost> could not have make build
[16:51] <Over^Kill> Cant seem to access my CD
[16:51] <ne1k0> Over^Kill: that's correct, it's a CD-"ROM", as in read only.
[16:51] <ne1k0> Over^Kill: is it a blank disc?
[16:51] <xmagixx> aretrfre34 been googling for it all day, only find guides that's from 2007, was hopeing for someone to "know" a solotion
[16:51] <erUSUL> Over^Kill: is a plain data cd ?
[16:52] <erUSUL> !webcam
[16:52] <Over^Kill> plane data, some text files and tar.gz files for drivers on the CD in the drive
[16:52] <Jaker> hello
[16:52] <aretrfre34> xmagixx:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[16:52] <aretrfre34> !webcam
[16:53] <Dragzard> Can anyone play a stream with totem just on the site like 181fm.com?
[16:53] <aretrfre34> Dragzard:use mplayer
[16:54] <Over^Kill> ya I cant open the CD
[16:54] <aretrfre34> Dragzard:yep
[16:54] <sarp> but when i make it manual it needs another adresses
[16:54] <loopidity> arand, i cant get in to kernel edit mode,
[16:55] <Dr_Willis> Over^Kill:  the 'filesystem type' shoudl be iso9660
[16:55] <Over^Kill> Unable to mount UDF Volume
[16:55] <Dr_Willis> Over^Kill:  or 'udf'   the option would be -t iso9660    or -t udf
[16:55] <Over^Kill> Error mounting: mount: block device /dev/sr0 is wrote protected, mounting read-only
[16:55] <Dr_Willis> Over^Kill:  thats to be expected. :)
[16:55] <brainy> is here someone from england or UK?
[16:55] <Over^Kill> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, etc
[16:56] <Dr_Willis> but thats not..
[16:56] <Dr_Willis> Over^Kill:  whats the exact command line you are using?
[16:56] <Over^Kill> I just put the CD in
[16:56] <duffydack> brainy, yes, why?  want to rub it in a bit more, 4-1!
[16:56] <Over^Kill> says try dmesg|tail or so
[16:57] <sarp> la burda türk varmı?
[16:57] <Dr_Willis> so what does 'dmesg | tail' say about it?
[16:57] <Over^Kill> thats the last line
[16:57] <oCean_> !tr | sarp
[16:57] <sarp> eyvallah
[16:57] <brainy> i wanna ask you, how good is WineHQ?
[16:57] <ikonia> brainy: try it
[16:58] <ikonia> brainy: it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> Over^Kill:  as command line similer to 'sudo mount /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom -t iso9660' should mount the device to the directory /media/cdrom (make that dir with sudo mkdir /media/cdrom first)
[16:58] <brainy> yes?!
[16:58] <brainy> it is a ubuntu programm
[16:58] <ikonia> brainy: no it's not
[16:58] <hades145> hello, i cant see new inst. main menu? systems/perf./main menu, cant change and see new apps
[16:58] <brainy> to play windows programs
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> bye all....
[16:58] <Over^Kill> I did the mkdir
[16:58] <IdleOne> brainproxy: #winehq
[16:58] <brainy> http://www.winehq.org/
[16:58] <ikonia> brainy: wine is not an ubuntu software component
[16:58] <brainy> hm
[16:58] <IdleOne> brainy:  #winehq
[16:59] <xmagixx> aretrfre34, thx for your time, but that's old drivers for old kernals doubt it will work
[17:00] <laeg> does power management not come into affect when vlc is open? if so, will it differentiate between media playing in vlc and media that has finished?
[17:00] <Win> can somone tell me where rhythm box holds all it's music ?
[17:01] <aretrfre34> xmagixx:try easycam https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EasyCam
[17:01] <Win> I need to link it with my Boxee program thanks
[17:01] <erUSUL> Win: afaik it does not move it from where you store it ...
[17:01] <aretrfre34> xmagixx:i will recompile it, desn't matter which kernel you are using
[17:02] <xmagixx> aretrfre34 there's only repotiories for hardy heron at easycam, can't find it anywhere to download it
[17:02] <loopidity> ah! end up with black screen after the live cd boots up
[17:02] <DasEi> Win: why not search for known filename ?
[17:02] <Win> erUSUL, then how do I find out where to links to so I can find the music, or is there a way to scan my computer for all music folders and stuf
[17:02] <aretrfre34> xmagixx:use force install
[17:03] <xmagixx> aretrfre34 doesnt help to use force install when i can't even find a place to download easycam from :)
[17:03] <Win> DasEi, I am new to ubuntu can you tell me how lol real nood question like
[17:03] <DasEi> Win: sudo updatedb (will take some time, indexig drive),  then locate SomeFile
[17:03] <aretrfre34> xmagixx:read here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EasyCam
[17:03] <Over^Kill> Dr_Willis - ok I got it, tyvm
[17:03] <DasEi> Win: also see man find
[17:03] <vaamarnath> @Win
[17:03] <Over^Kill> Dr_Willis now I just gota figure how to install the files on it to install my NIC card
[17:04] <vaamarnath> \Win
[17:04] <xmagixx> aretrfre34, been over that page, only deb's for hardy, want me to use those anyway ?
[17:05] <soadkombucha> What about a PPA?
[17:06] <DasEi> xmagixx: what are you after ?
[17:06] <elgh> How do I install Diablo 2 in Ubuntu 10.04?
[17:06] <soadkombucha> xmagixx: Easycam 2.0?
[17:06] <soadkombucha> http://www.unixmen.com/hardware-linux/111-install-webcam-drivers-with-easycam-2
[17:06] <wiesshund> elgh got wine?
[17:07] <elgh> Yeah, got Wine.
[17:07] <xmagixx> DasEi, easycam 2
[17:07] <Over^Kill> can someone point me to a link to install rpm files?
[17:07] <wiesshund> elgh setup works
[17:07] <Over^Kill> (Very new to this)
[17:07] <xmagixx> soadkombucha, ye, but can only find deb's for hardy and not lucid
[17:08] <Over^Kill> or the forums to search
[17:08] <elgh> Well, setup does work. But it believes that LOD is installed, which it isn't.
[17:08] <soadkombucha> xmagixx: That link should help you figure it out...
[17:08] <DasEi> xmagixx: http://www.unixmen.com/hardware-linux/111-install-webcam-drivers-with-easycam-2
[17:08] <ChogyDan> Over^Kill: what are you trying to do?
[17:08] <elgh> And I can't install it since my computer think it's already installed.
[17:08] <Over^Kill> ChogyDan install my NIC card
[17:08] <ChogyDan> Over^Kill: what card?
[17:08] <xmagixx> DasEi, i'll have a look
[17:08] <soadkombucha> DasEi: I just linked him to that.
[17:08] <Over^Kill> Broadcom Net Extreme Gigabit controller
[17:09] <Over^Kill> I got Linux drivers from the website and burned them to disk
[17:09] <xmagixx> soadkombucha, yea but can i use hardy repos when i'm on lucid ?
[17:09] <vaamarnath> \bye
[17:09] <ChogyDan> Over^Kill: have you searched on the exact model?  I can help if you give it to me
[17:10] <erUSUL> !rpm | Over^Kill
[17:10] <DasEi> xmagixx: , soadkombucha : It's too long ago for me to remember, but I know I onced compiled it for Jaunty, so there are newer ones
[17:10] <vaamarnath> \exit
[17:10] <vaamarnath> \quit
[17:10] <erUSUL> vaamarnath: /
[17:10] <soadkombucha> vaamarnath: /
 one sec ill pull it up
[17:10] <Hasanibrahim> hello, i have installed ubuntu but sound is broken
[17:11] <Hasanibrahim> what can i do _?
[17:11] <soadkombucha> ChogyDan: This might work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1368699
[17:11] <Hasanibrahim> there is a "mute" sign on the sound bar
[17:11] <xmagixx> DasEi, can't install easycam2-gtk i need some other files whitch i can't install either because of no installationcanidate.... i'll read some more and see what i come up with
 Just says Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit Controller
[17:12] <pwnsey> I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 and I get an error on bootup saying there are serious errors with my disk and I've let it run overnight and nothing happens. I've tried to press ignore but nothing happens.
[17:12] <elgh> wiesshund, any ideas?
[17:12] <pwnsey> I find it unlikely there is a problem with my disk because it is 20days old.
[17:12] <rv1s> can anyone help me understand the syntax of mp3info2? the manpage confuses me -.- i'd like to read a certain id3v2 field
[17:12] <soadkombucha> Hasanibrahim: Did you try unmuting it?
[17:12] <ubutom_> Hasanibrahim, click it and move the slider to the right
[17:13] <Hasanibrahim> soadkombucha: ubutom_: of course
[17:13] <soadkombucha> rv1s: I can't find a mand page for that command
[17:13] <Hasanibrahim> it's inaktive
[17:13] <Guest98404> pwnsey, does your disk work
[17:13] <pw-toxic> hi - i am looking for a web frontend for my ubuntu server.. dhcp  apache svn etc..
[17:13] <pw-toxic> is there something like this?
[17:13] <dario> salve
[17:14] <soadkombucha> Hasanibrahim: Did you check to see if alsamixer is on mute? It may not be installed.
[17:14] <pwnsey> I'm trying to get into ubuntu to try but I can't because it wont let me ignore the error
[17:14] <rv1s> soadkombucha: http://search.cpan.org/~ilyaz/MP3-Tag-0.9708/examples/mp3info2
[17:14] <DasEi> xmagixx: I think I found it back, wanna try ?
[17:14] <ChogyDan> Over^Kill: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[17:14] <erUSUL> !ebox | pwnsey
[17:14] <erUSUL> !ebox | pw-toxic
[17:14] <erUSUL> pwnsey: sorry
 I just downloaded it yesterday
[17:15] <pw-toxic> erUSUL, there was a bug with ebox... hm ill check if this has been fixed for ubuntu 9.04
[17:15] <Over^Kill> 64bit
[17:15] <pw-toxic> ebox
[17:15] <soadkombucha> What exactly are you trying to do rv1s?
[17:15] <Hasanibrahim> soadkombucha: there is no hardwere on the harwere tab of sound options
[17:15] <pwnsey> erUSUL: I've tried to boot into a boot disk because I wanted to install the 64bit ubuntu on my machine and I'm resizing the partition and it's taking more than 30 minutes. Is that normal?
[17:15] <soadkombucha> Hasanibrahim: What is your soundcard?
[17:15] <pwnsey> stuck at 50%
[17:15] <rv1s> soadkombucha: i want to read out the "TPE2" field (ID3-tag) from a mp3 file
[17:15] <alpha__> How do I make an imported key to my personal key?
[17:15] <ChogyDan> Over^Kill: what does lspci say the card is?
[17:15] <erUSUL> pwnsey: dependiong on the amount of data it has to move around it can be
 where do I check
[17:16] <edbian> pwnsey: That is not strange.  Partition is a bit level function so it is kinda slow
[17:16] <ChogyDan> Over^Kill: on a terminal
[17:16] <pwnsey> thanks erUSUL and idbian
[17:16] <Hasanibrahim> i just lost it, it was working for about  two hours ago
[17:16] <soadkombucha> rlvs:   mp3info2 -C autoinfo=ID3v2,ID3v1 *.mp3
[17:16] <soadkombucha> rv1s:   mp3info2 -C autoinfo=ID3v2,ID3v1 *.mp3
[17:17] <dbooth> Topic: Tim's late submission
[17:17] <soadkombucha> rv1s: But you're probably only going to want to do mp3info2 -C autoinfo=ID3v2 *.mp3
 lspci says - ISA bridge: Intel corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 01)
[17:18] <rv1s> soadkombucha: mh this command only returns the standard fields like artist, title and album
[17:18] <pwnsey> If the partition never ends does it mean I have a bum disk. I'm just concerned because it only took like 5 minutes to partition my nearly full drive last time and this drive is brand new.
[17:18] <erUSUL> Over^Kill: and isa bridge != a nic card ... « lspci | grep -i net »
[17:19] <edbian> pwnsey, Sometimes it takes 2 hours
[17:19] <ubutom_> pwnsey, resizing may take a long time
[17:19] <pwnsey> ok
[17:19] <pwnsey> Thanks, I'll wait it out.
[17:19] <Over^Kill> Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
[17:20] <soadkombucha> rv1s: I can't see anything that would allow you to list the info you want because I don't know exactly what info you want. Why are you trying to use this program in particular?
 How do I put that in exactly?
[17:20] <Hasanibrahim> soadkombucha: realtek
[17:20] <soadkombucha> Hasanibrahim: Did you try installing from source?
[17:20] <erUSUL> Over^Kill: what ? the « » are not part of the command ...
[17:20] <Hasanibrahim> how to ?
[17:20] <cntrational> «_»
[17:21] <jamesw> how can i change the java font size?
[17:21] <soadkombucha> Hasanibrahim: Hold on.
[17:21] <soadkombucha> Hasanibrahim: I have realtek drivers
[17:21] <soadkombucha> Hasanibrahim: I'll give you the download link, and a pastebin link
[17:21] <rv1s> soadkombucha: i want to create a shell script that reorganises my mp3 files and i want them to be moved into folders which are given the name of the album artist (stored in the TPE2 field)
[17:21] <jamesw> my java fonts are really tiny, how can i change the size?
[17:21] <Hasanibrahim> okey soadkombucha
 :( sorry I am confused
[17:22] <soadkombucha> Hasanibrahim: You're going to extract the folder from the downloaded file to /home/yourusername
[17:22] <soadkombucha> Hasanibrahim: Then you can either run all the commands on the pastebin link in terminal, or you can make a shell script from it
[17:22] <DasEi> Over^Kill: is this a laptop you're on ?
[17:22] <Over^Kill> no
[17:22] <Hasanibrahim> soadkombucha: okey
[17:22] <Over^Kill> Precision 690
[17:22] <rv1s> soadkambucha: the id3v2 tpe2 field stores information about band/orchestra etc. but often is used to store the album artist
[17:23] <erUSUL> Over^Kill: me too. i thougfht you wanted to get the exact model of your NIC card ... this command (with no quotes) " lspci | grep -i net " will get you the name
[17:23] <DasEi> Over^Kill: don't want to become offtopic here, but that's a very ancient chipset I think
[17:23] <ChogyDan> Over^Kill: it looks like the driver should already be installed.  check this: sudo updatedb && locate tg3.ko
[17:23] <soadkombucha> Hasanibrahim: ftp://WebUser:Ds8MtJ3@209.222.7.36/pc/audio/LinuxPkg_5.15rc5.tar.bz2
[17:23] <sebsebseb> Hi
[17:23] <OpenSourcedNick1> I need a good FireFox integrated password manager, what do you recommend?
[17:23] <clayg> How do I remove older options in the boot up? Instead of 4 of 5 kernels plus Xp plus mem test I'
[17:23] <clayg> I'd like just XP and ubuntu
[17:23] <clayg> how do i do this?
[17:23] <DasEi> sebsebseb: :)
[17:23] <edbian> OpenSourcedNick1, the one that's built in?
[17:24] <sebsebseb> DasEi: hi
[17:24] <soadkombucha> Hasanibrahim: So you'll have "/home/yourusername/realtek-linux-audiopack-5.15 after you download the file
[17:24] <sebsebseb> clayg: either edit the file for the boot loader, or remove the kernels
[17:24] <OpenSourcedNick1> edbian: yeah but I need password completion for pidgin and what-not, and I need it to be encrypted
[17:24] <Hasanibrahim> wait please
[17:24] <OpenSourcedNick1> as in, an all around password manager
[17:24] <edbian> OpenSourcedNick1, Oh!  I'm not sure.  Good luck finding one! :)
[17:24] <clayg> sebsebseb, im using lucid, how do i edit the file for the bootloader?
[17:24] <DasEi> clayg: edit /etc/default/grub  , then run update-grub, both as root
[17:25] <edbian> OpenSourcedNick1, I know they have them in the repos.  I'm not sure if there is a firefox extension
[17:25] <clayg> DasEi, thank you
[17:25] <sebsebseb> clayg: not so easilly since its Grub 2
[17:25] <sebsebseb> clayg: well compared to the old Grub
 /lib/modules/2.6.32-21-generic/kernel/drivers/net/tg3.ko
[17:25] <OpenSourcedNick1> edbian: it seems like something that ubuntu's really missing
[17:25] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | clayg
[17:25] <erUSUL> clayg: remove the old kernels you do not want/use in synaptic
 I put that in and it returned nothing
[17:25] <sebsebseb> clayg: so yeah just remove the old kernels you don't want in Synaptic
 This computer is a few years old but not that old
[17:26] <clayg> i hate grub2
[17:26] <edbian> OpenSourcedNick1, It seems like something firefox is missing.  Ubuntu has password managers
[17:26] <clayg> pisses off they used it
[17:26] <sebsebseb> clayg: I dislike it
[17:26] <soadkombucha> Hasanibrahim: And then it's a a matter of going into terminal and using these commands: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/455988/
[17:26] <erUSUL> Over^Kill: weird... anyway ChogyDan seems to be on the right track with your issue
[17:26] <OpenSourcedNick1> edbian: which?
[17:26] <Over^Kill> ya, thanks <erUSUL>
[17:26] <babbageclunk> I've just installed Netbook 10.4 on my Samsung N220, but I can't get wireless working. lspci says it's a RealTek 8192 (rev 01). I can't find the exact driver on the RealTek site (I tried compiling and installing one, but that didn't work, so I assume it's the wrong chipset). How can I find the right drivers?
[17:26] <clayg> so just go into synaptic and remove kernels, ok ill give that a shot
[17:26] <OpenSourcedNick1> edbian: it's a matter of a password manager that needs to connect to firefox and other programs (auto inserting the password and such),
[17:26] <sebsebseb> clayg: well the old version of Grub is no longer supported upstream thats why,  however I know of at least one distro that is still using it
[17:26] <soadkombucha> babbageclunk: It's not I used the 8192SE drivers yesterday.
[17:26] <DasEi> clayg: keep language nice, you can also install grub (1) back
[17:27] <sebsebseb> clayg: could actsually install the old version into Ubuntu, but its not as simple as just installing and using
[17:27] <soadkombucha> babbageclunk: hold on
[17:27] <clayg> DasEi, really? will installing grub 1 remove grub 2? I guess what i want to know is how hard is it?
[17:27] <clayg> same with the bootloader/ plymouth or whatever - I "dislike" that change also
[17:28] <soadkombucha> babbageclunk: I'm going to put a list of commands on paste.ubuntu.com, try using those to install the wireless drivers. The one command assumes the tar.gz file for the drivers is in ~/
[17:28] <sebsebseb> clayg: also even though Grub 2 is uh, its a bit silly to downgrade to the older one in Ubuntu, I guess
[17:28] <clayg> not bootloader but graphics at the login screen, me not good with words
[17:28] <DasEi> clayg: not too hard in my eyes, but always fine to backup mbr before those "experiments
[17:28] <erUSUL> changing bootloader only to remove some old kernels from the list seems a bit overkill; doesn't it ???
[17:28] <babbageclunk> soadkombucha: Ok, thanks.
[17:28] <edbian> OpenSourcedNick1, I don't know if you'll be able to find one that will auto enter every password you might ever need to fill in.  Most people use the password saver function in each app.  For example for web apps most people use the built in firefox one (which I think will write them for you).  Evolution and pidgin both store passwords as well.
[17:28] <erUSUL> like killing flys with a cannon
[17:28] <ChogyDan> Over^Kill: maybe you need to install linux-firmware-nonfree             Im really not sure, but it is worth a shot
[17:28] <test34> why not just uninstall the old kernels
[17:29] <soadkombucha> babbageclunk: Not a problem. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/455989/
[17:29] <edbian> OpenSourcedNick1, Then there are packages like password gorilla and fpm
[17:29] <DasEi> clayg: editing grub is fastest way to get menu free
[17:29] <sebsebseb> clayg: yes Plymouth really does suck in Ubuntu, unlike in  Mandriva where iti s awesome, and in Fedora where it is alright.  Not much can be done with Plymouth though when it comes to Ubuntu, can sort of disable it and have a text mood instead though.
 how
[17:29] <OpenSourcedNick1> edbian: are you aware of the fact that pidgin stores passwords in plain text?
[17:29] <edbian> OpenSourcedNick1, Those just sort of store them all in an encrypted database
[17:29] <ChogyDan> Over^Kill: sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree
 its a fairly common card I think
[17:29] <Over^Kill> ...
[17:29] <OpenSourcedNick1> at any rate I found keepassx, seems good, I'll check it out
[17:29] <edbian> OpenSourcedNick1, I was not aware that pidgin does that.  Now am I very concerned.  If you could log into my system as me then I would be concerned
[17:29] <soadkombucha> babbageclunk: I wrote a shell script for that, so I don't have to redo it on every kernel, but I found those commands in a tutorial after googling a bit
[17:29] <clayg> sebsebseb, i like whatever was used before where you could use gnome-art to just change the splash screen, the screen wehre you put your user name and password, i think even grub had some graphics options? i dunno, just remember it being easier
[17:30] <edbian> OpenSourcedNick1, and quite frankly it isn't a major security risk that somebody could chat online as me.
[17:30] <soadkombucha> babbageclunk: I did what you did, and just tried compiling it.
[17:30] <OpenSourcedNick1> edbian: depends, if you have google chat, he could know your email password
[17:30] <clayg> now i read up on it and the only guide i find is somehting to change thebackground walllpaper in the beginning?
[17:30] <DasEi> clayg: there are themes for grub2, also
 Couldnt find package
[17:30] <edbian> OpenSourcedNick1, Good point
[17:30] <clayg> what happens if you use an older ubuntu version and dont upgrade the kernel ever
[17:30] <sebsebseb> clayg: as for GDM 2 the log in,  I really dislike it in Ubuntu,  in Fedora and such its ok,  maybe just since a better background by default though.  The old GDM can be installed, but its not as simple as just installing and using.
[17:30] <OpenSourcedNick1> edbian: I'm an advanced paranoid :D
[17:30] <ekontsevoy> There's a new package in Ubuntu, which allows idle servers to power off themselves (and wake on LAN later). What's the name of it? I thought it was "powersleep" but apparently not...
[17:30] <DasEi> clayg: right
[17:30] <clayg> you can still use all applications for it as they update right?
[17:31] <soadkombucha> Hasanibrahim: Any luck?
[17:31] <clayg> yeah need to find a distro i liked a little better or at least was able to use easier
[17:31] <edbian> OpenSourcedNick1, Then don't save your passwords at all.  The safest password is one that is stored in only 1 place that nobody else can ever read.  Your mind.
[17:31] <ekontsevoy> Anyone? (sorry I didnt' make it clear that it was a question for everybody :-)
[17:31] <ekontsevoy> There's a new package in Ubuntu, which allows idle servers to power off themselves (and wake on LAN later). What's the name of it? I thought it was "powersleep" but apparently not...
[17:31] <sebsebseb> clayg: (well last Fedora I tried was Fedora 11, and GDM 2 looked ok there)
[17:31] <OpenSourcedNick1> edbian: holy crap my mind is the worst hard drive EVER
[17:31] <clayg> sebsebseb, still want to still do a debian fork
[17:31] <MBG1987> hi
[17:31] <MBG1987> hello folks
[17:31] <MBG1987> i've a question
[17:31] <edbian> OpenSourcedNick1, But it is the most secure
[17:31] <OpenSourcedNick1> unreliable
[17:31] <babbageclunk> soadkombucha: great, thanks - I'll try that now
[17:31] <clayg> i guess version is what i meant not dist
[17:32] <sebsebseb> clayg: yes the old GDM is :) can be themed nicely and all that.  However a bit silly to install into Ubuntu yourself I guess, may as well just use a better alternative.
 In network tools under devices it lists an IPV4 adapter, but it has an IP of 127.0.0.1 (Standard) is that just a loopback and isnt the card or?
[17:32] <Hasanibrahim> soadkombucha: prosess is going yet
[17:32] <soadkombucha> babbageclunk: Not a problem. I forgot /bin/bash after #! when I pasted that. So if you want a shell script make sure it has that line
[17:32] <test34> ekontsevoy, theres a package named wakeonlan
[17:32] <devilcraef> greetings
[17:32] <MBG1987> i've a question
[17:32] <MBG1987> i've a question
[17:32] <clayg> sebsebseb, what is a better alternative? iw as talking about going back a few releases in ubuntu and using that
[17:32] <MBG1987> i've a question
[17:32] <FloodBot2> MBG1987: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:32] <edbian> OpenSourcedNick1, Try password gorilla.  It stores them in encryption.
[17:32] <sebsebseb> clayg: KDM has an alright theme, and is nice with multiple users, since it will show the user account that was last logged in.
[17:32] <edbian> OpenSourcedNick1, I have to go now though
[17:32] <OpenSourcedNick1> I'll try KeePass
[17:32] <sebsebseb> clayg: Slim is rather nice really
[17:32] <edbian> OpenSourcedNick1, Good luck finding a great solution!
[17:32] <ekontsevoy> test34: yeah that's just for sending WOL signal. But they built a nice server tool which watches process table and after all processes sit idle for XX minutes it automatically powers it off.
[17:32] <soadkombucha>  babbageclunk: So the PROPER script is http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/455994/
[17:33] <pw-toxic> erUSUL, can i install ebox on 10.4 home idition of ubuntu? i need a graphical UI for my server besides ebox
[17:33] <sebsebseb> clayg: by default if you install from the Ubuntu repo, you get the Debian theme, because yep Ubuntu is based on Debian.  There are some rather nice themes on its website, and woudn't take much for you to make your own.
[17:33] <soadkombucha> Hasanibrahim: The download?
[17:33] <ChogyDan> Over^Kill: look at the Network device field
[17:33] <sebsebseb> clayg: Theres also LXDM and XDM.
[17:33] <Hasanibrahim> soadkombucha:  CC [M]  /usr/src/alsa-driver-1.0.23/pci/hda/patch_nvhdmi.o  CC [M]  /usr/src/alsa-driver-1.0.23/pci/hda/patch_realtek.o, this was the last message on Terminal
 ya it says loopback
[17:33] <MBG1987> i'm not spam
[17:33] <Hasanibrahim> and going on
[17:33] <sebsebseb> clayg: install LXDM from repo and you get the nice Lubuntu theme.
[17:33] <ChogyDan> Over^Kill: is your card listed?
[17:33] <LjL> !repeat | MBG1987
[17:33] <test34> ekontsevoy, sorry I dont know
[17:33] <clayg> what would i lose by using say Hardy?
[17:34] <erUSUL> pw-toxic: do not see why not
[17:34] <clayg> instead of lucid
[17:34] <soadkombucha> Hasanibrahim: Oh t can take a few minutes
[17:34] <pw-toxic> erUSUL, currently i have 9.04 but i cant install ebox...
[17:34] <arand> ekontsevoy: powernap?
[17:34] <sebsebseb> clayg: oh downgrade back to Hardy
[17:34] <DasEi> I got a problem with a broken box here : I chrooted in via cd and installed ssh, but when I try to log in remotely, the client says : server refused to allocate pty,  what's that ?
[17:34] <ekontsevoy> arand: YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:34] <ekontsevoy> thanks guys
[17:34] <erUSUL> pw-toxic: why? concrete error messages ? what is failing ?
[17:34] <sebsebseb> clayg: sounds alright to me, however it runs out of support on the desktop at the end of April next year
 where do I look exactly, under Network Tools?
[17:34] <clayg> sebsebseb, what type of support though?
[17:34] <soadkombucha> Hasanibrahim: When it finishes try a system reboot, and if it still doesn't work go into terminal and type alsamixer (or you can install an alsamixer GUI from software center) and make sure it's not muted
[17:35] <sebsebseb> clayg: all support, no more security updates
[17:35] <ChogyDan> Over^Kill: that same spot, where the loop back is listed
[17:35] <MBG1987> what's the alternative to dreamweaver
[17:35] <MBG1987> what's the alternative to dreamweaver
 no not listed
[17:35] <pw-toxic> erUSUL, The follwing packages have unmet dependencies: ebox-all: Depends: ebox-communiocation but is not going to be installed
[17:35] <sebsebseb> clayg: server version gets another two years though, only server stuff though
[17:35] <MBG1987> what's the alternative to dreamweaver  on ubuntu
[17:35] <pw-toxic> erUSUL, and a lot more
[17:35] <sebsebseb> !eol | clayg
[17:35] <sebsebseb> !html | MBG1987
[17:35] <pw-toxic> erUSUL, on apt-get install ebox-all
[17:35] <ChogyDan> Over^Kill: for me it is a drop down
[17:35] <hrishi> I've formated sda 4 in which windows 7 was installed. how can I remove that entry from grub?
[17:35] <sebsebseb> MBG1987: What kind of websites are you making?
[17:35] <SlidingHorn> wow...hard to imagine I've been using Ubuntu since dapper...
 ya theres no dropdown meny
[17:35] <Over^Kill> *menu
[17:35] <sebsebseb> SlidingHorn: second release in 2005 for me
[17:36] <MBG1987> web 2.0 websites
[17:36] <sebsebseb> SlidingHorn: not my first distro also :)
[17:36] <MBG1987> web 2.0 websites
[17:36] <DasEi> hrishi: edit /etc/default/grub  , then run update-grub, both as root
[17:36] <sebsebseb> MBG1987: hrm
[17:36] <erUSUL> pw-toxic: aptitude why  ebox-communiocation
[17:36] <sebsebseb> MBG1987: Which version of Dreamweaver?
[17:36] <clayg> so there is no grub2 gui to remove or edit what is presented at bootup?
[17:36] <MBG1987> cs3 or later
[17:36] <SlidingHorn> sebsebseb, it was my first linux distro...just one day said "I want to try linux" and got it, lol
[17:36] <MBG1987> what's hrm? how to install?
[17:36] <sebsebseb> MBG1987: to be honest, there are some alright WYSIWYG 's for  Desktop Linux, but none of them are as good as Dreamweaver really
[17:36] <pw-toxic> erUSUL, unable to find a reason to install ebox-communication
[17:37] <ChogyDan> Over^Kill: yeah, I don't know, sorry
[17:37] <erUSUL> pw-toxic: why-not
[17:37] <sebsebseb> MBG1987: no I meant hrm as in like thinking
[17:37] <erUSUL> pw-toxic: aptitude why-not ebox-communiocation
[17:37] <soadkombucha> clayg: No but you can remove the old kernels through synaptic and run update-grub
[17:37] <clayg> and my /etc/default/grub doesn't list any of the os's it seems ot only list how other options are handled
[17:37] <pw-toxic> erUSUL, unable to find a reason to remove ebox-communication
[17:37] <sebsebseb> MBG1987: the good news is
[17:37] <clayg> soadkombucha, looking through synaptic in the kernel section i dont see anything i can remove
[17:37] <MBG1987> is..
[17:37] <sebsebseb> MBG1987: you can probably Wine Dreamweaver quite nicely, but may hae to set it up a bit
[17:37] <soadkombucha> clayg: try this: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[17:37] <MBG1987> really!
 How do I do this (tar xvzf tg3-<version>.tar.gz
[17:37] <airtonix> lol@dreamweaver
[17:37] <pw-toxic> erUSUL, anyway i think im gonna install 10.04 since my motherboard broke and i need to buy a new motherboard, cpu, ram and a new sata controller for my 10 HDDs
[17:38] <clayg> is there a better keyword i could just search for? or some kinda program that goes "ok he has 3.4, so he doesn't want anything lower than that "?
[17:38] <soadkombucha> clayg: And then run this to make sure they're gone: dpkg -l | grep linux-image-2
[17:38] <MBG1987> it will be great
[17:38] <clayg> soadkombucha, giving it a shot now
 from the CD-ROM
[17:38] <erUSUL> pw-toxic: :/ check System>Admin>software sources and make sure there is no important repo disablwed
[17:38] <sebsebseb> MBG1987: also with enough RAM and such, you can run it in a Windows virtual machine
[17:38] <hrishi> DasEi: thanks :)
[17:38] <MBG1987> but what version could run vbia wine?
[17:38] <sebsebseb> airtonix: not exactly, because lets be honest, most of the open source WYSWIGY's aren't as good
[17:38] <DasEi> clayg: in the given file you can also set the number of entries, get used to it
[17:38] <airtonix> sebsebseb, all wysiwygs are bad
[17:38] <sebsebseb> airtonix: I know, Dreamweaver, eww Adobe, eww propritary software, but st ill
[17:38] <kickstart> sebsebseb & MBG1987 -> Photoshop works fine with Wine, why not Dreamweaver... Try with PlayOnLinux ?
[17:38] <MBG1987> i ran windows inside vbox but it sucks all the time
[17:38] <clayg> soadkombucha, first command gave "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[17:38] <clayg> "
 Just open terminal from Desktop and type in command with the version put where it says? will it find the CD-ROM or do I need to add that option into the command somehow?
[17:38] <sebsebseb> airtonix: indeed hand coding :)  ,but not for his sites
[17:39] <soadkombucha> clayg: Not a GUI program I know of
[17:39] <sebsebseb> MBG1987: not if you set the vm up properly it won't I guess
[17:39] <erUSUL> !appdb | MBG1987 kickstart
[17:39] <pw-toxic> erUSUL, what are important repos? ;)
[17:39] <soadkombucha> clayg: Hmm.
[17:39] <DasEi> clayg: so then obsolete (older ones) will get caught by apt
[17:39] <erUSUL> pw-toxic: universe multiverse
[17:39] <soadkombucha> claygRun the second command
[17:39] <pw-toxic> erUSUL, hm on which tab do i see this?
[17:39] <clayg> ok ran both commands , the /etc/default/grub doesn't seem to list anything I can remove to accomplish what I'd like
[17:40] <clayg> would anyone be willing to look at a pastebin of mine?
[17:40] <MBG1987> other question plz
[17:40] <erUSUL> pw-toxic: first tab and third iirc
[17:40] <soadkombucha> clayg: You could manually remove them from grub.cfg
[17:40] <soadkombucha> clayg: If they're bothering you THAT much, but be careful not to mess anything up
[17:40] <erUSUL> soadkombucha: to see them appear again on the next automatic « update-grub » run
[17:40] <sebsebseb> clayg: removing from Synaptic is easy
[17:40] <MBG1987> I want the source code of ubutnu tweak how to get it?
[17:40] <sebsebseb> clayg: and you don't need to do this other stuff
[17:41] <pw-toxic> erUSUL, the first ab is called "Ubuntu Software" and there are only some checkboxses...
[17:41] <sebsebseb> clayg: well maybe update Grub when your done
[17:41] <MBG1987> I want the source code of ubutnu tweak how to get it?
[17:41] <clayg> http://pastebin.ca/1890503
[17:41] <pw-toxic> everything is chedked
[17:41] <soadkombucha> sebsebseb: Apparently they didn't show up in synaptic
[17:41] <erUSUL> soadkombucha: head -n2 /boot/grub/grub.cfg | tail -n1
[17:41] <sebsebseb> clayg: search for linux-kernel  in synaptic or something like that, should bring  the kernels up
[17:41] <clayg> soadkombucha, will check out grub.cfg is it located in the same directory
[17:41] <sebsebseb> clayg: I am not on Ubuntu now, another distro instead :)  Got Ubuntu vms though
[17:42] <ae86-drifter> i have x server running, but dont know what to do  can someone please help me acheive this: http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=156984&ssid=35722
[17:42] <MBG1987> I want the source code of ubutnu tweak how to get it?or it's just closed source
[17:42] <sebsebseb> MBG1987: ask the developers of it or something
[17:42] <None_1> USERHOST None_1
[17:42] <laeg> does power management not come into affect when vlc is open? if so, will it differentiate between media playing in vlc and media that has finished?
[17:42] <sebsebseb> MBG1987: Ubuntu Tweak is not an offical  Ubuntu program
[17:42] <ikonia> ae86-drifter: how is that anything to do with ubuntu
[17:42] <ChogyDan> Over^Kill: sorry mate, I gotta go, but the driver is already installed.   Maybe file a bug/help report on launchpad, see if someone there knows.
[17:42] <ae86-drifter> ikonia i mean to use with ubuntu instead of mandriva
[17:42] <erUSUL> pw-toxic: and they are checked ?
[17:43] <ikonia> ae86-drifter: the backend connection does not matter
[17:43] <Over^Kill> :( well thanks for all the hel;p <ChogyDan>
[17:43] <Over^Kill> help
[17:43] <pw-toxic> erUSUL, all are c hecked
[17:43] <ikonia> ae86-drifter: as login as there is a login manager running you should be able to connect to it
[17:43] <ae86-drifter> ikonia, i am using debian
[17:43] <ikonia> ae86-drifter: ok - so why are you asking ubuntu ?
[17:43] <MBG1987> I've sent a message to the developer asking for the source code for translating issue
[17:43] <MBG1987> I've sent a message to the developer asking for the source code for translating issue
[17:43] <ae86-drifter> because i have both
[17:43] <ikonia> ae86-drifter: they work the same
[17:44] <MBG1987> i hope to respond 4 that
[17:44] <ae86-drifter> ok thx ill try play around with it again
[17:44] <DasEi> Server refused to allocate pty stdin: is not a tty     << getting this when I try to log in an chrooted ssh-server, Ideas ?
[17:44] <ae86-drifter> i thought there was something on the linux side that needs config
[17:44] <soadkombucha> sebsebseb: Wouldn't he be better off searching for linux-geneeric?
[17:44] <sebsebseb> soadkombucha: uhmm yeah
[17:44] <sebsebseb> soadkombucha: well tell them that instead of me?
[17:44] <ikonia> ae86-drifter: nope, just a login manager to connect to, that's it
[17:45] <Colonel_panic> I installed wicd, and now my wifi adapter doesn't work
[17:45] <DanielePamPa> Ciao
[17:45] <germ86> Guten Abend
[17:45] <sebsebseb> !de | germ86
[17:45] <ae86-drifter> ikonia, so i do not even need to have x loaded on my ubuntu machine?
[17:45] <cntrational> so um i have a question: I use the compose key to enter characters, but Qt and GTK+ applications have different combinations. How do I make the combinations the same on both?
[17:45] <DanielePamPa> come connettere iphone su ubuntu
[17:45] <MBG1987> what happen to the steam project is it come to the linux after MAC
[17:45] <soadkombucha> clayg: Search in synaptic for linux-generic
[17:45] <ikonia> ae86-drifter: you need to have X running on the machine you want to connect to, for a backend connection.
[17:46] <MBG1987> what happen to the steam project is it come to the linux after MAC
[17:46] <ikonia> MBG1987: no idea, and that's nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:46] <erUSUL> !iphone | DanielePamPa
[17:46] <erUSUL> !it | DanielePamPa
[17:46] <cntrational> dammit why am i ignored again
[17:46] <wildbat|GER_4-1> ubuntu don't give the option to suspend/sleep(it got hibernates thou) in the shutdown menu~ what should i do to enable it? 10.04, E6600, ASUS P5B
[17:46] <ikonia> cntrational: you're not
[17:46] <sebsebseb> !pm > germ86
[17:46] <erUSUL> cntrational: nobody knows the answer ?
[17:47] <sebsebseb> germ86: stay in the channel :)
[17:47] <soadkombucha> cntrational: Did you try to edit the global shortcut keys ione of the two?n
[17:47] <cntrational> ikonia: I've asked this question 2 times before :(
[17:47] <clayg> soadkombucha, ok i found a few, i can just remove all but the latest and have no problems?
[17:47] <ikonia> cntrational: if someone knows the answer, they will respond
[17:47] <cntrational> soadkombucha: they're apparently hardcoded
[17:47] <germ86> hello
[17:47] <soadkombucha> cntrational: Then you're probably out of luck.
[17:47] <Colonel_panic> I installed wicd, and now my wifi adapter doesn't work
[17:47] <soadkombucha> Colonel_panic: That's weird. I installed it yesterday and my wireless is working fine..
[17:47] <MBG1987> i'm about to leave linux and go back to window$ say why?
[17:48] <Colonel_panic> well, as I said yesterday
[17:48] <ikonia> MBG1987: ok - bye then
[17:48] <bazhang> !ot | MBG1987
[17:48] <ikonia> MBG1987: not interested in why, use whatever OS you want
[17:48] <soadkombucha> Colonel_panic: What?
[17:48] <Colonel_panic> I'm on a Dell Mini 9, which has a broadcom driver that uses the wl-broadcom driver
[17:48] <[manas]> is it any chance to delete encrypted partition without pass, plus to recovery data???
[17:48] <soadkombucha> Colonel_panic: Just uninstall WICD?
[17:48] <Colonel_panic> hehe
[17:48] <Colonel_panic> yeah I did that too=
[17:49] <soadkombucha> Colonel_panic: Did you go to synaptic and remove everything?
[17:49] <snr1> hello
[17:49] <Colonel_panic> and reinstalled network-adapter
[17:49] <MBG1987> ikonia: i'm kidding
[17:49] <pw-toxic> erUSUL, do you know on which operating system the ebox 1.4 iso is based on?
[17:49] <bazhang> MBG1987, chat elsewhere
[17:49] <soadkombucha> Colonel_panic: There are 4 packaged for WICD installed
[17:49] <Colonel_panic> no I didn't use synaptic
[17:49] <erUSUL> pw-toxic: no sorry; its web page should tell
[17:49] <Over^Kill> If I want to extract files from the CD I would CD the cdrom and type tar xvzf filename.tar.gz /pathway?
[17:49] <soadkombucha> Colonel_panic: wicd, wicd-daemon, python-wicd, and wicd-gtk
[17:50] <soadkombucha> Colonel_panic: Go into synaptic and see if those four are gone.
[17:50] <soadkombucha> Hasanibrahim: Welcome back
[17:50] <Colonel_panic> when I do a sudo apt-get remove, it doesn't remove them all/
[17:50] <erUSUL> Over^Kill: -C /pathway/
[17:50] <Colonel_panic> ?
[17:50] <MBG1987> sorry
[17:50] <soadkombucha> Colonel_panic: It should have, but you can always check
[17:50] <Colonel_panic> OK lemme check
[17:50] <DasEi> Over^Kill: no, first copy them over, as you can't write on the cd , nor ?!
[17:50] <Over^Kill> ahh
[17:50] <Over^Kill> ok
[17:50] <soadkombucha> Hasanibrahim: Any luck?
[17:50] <Hasanibrahim> soadkombucha: Thankyou, it worked, you're great :) thanks
[17:50] <germ86> @colonel_panic try apt-get purge
[17:50] <soadkombucha> Hasanibrahim: Not a problem.
[17:50] <Hasanibrahim> it's workin now
[17:50] <soadkombucha> Hasanibrahim: Awesome
[17:51] <snr1> I changed from proxy server to direct internet connection and I changed all the settings. But still I can't install vim using apt-get install vim-gnome.
[17:51] <soadkombucha> Hasanibrahim: Glad I could help
[17:51] <soadkombucha> Colonel_panic: apt-get --purge
[17:51] <MBG1987> what's the aim of lamp ?
[17:51] <erUSUL> !lamp | MBG1987
[17:51] <snr1> I changed from proxy server to direct internet connection and I changed all the settings. But still I can't install vim using apt-get install vim-gnome.  Can any one help
[17:51] <snr1> ?
[17:52] <snr1> I changed from proxy server to direct internet connection and I changed all the settings. But still I can't install vim using apt-get install vim-gnome.  Can any one help?
[17:53] <snr1> I changed from proxy server to direct internet connection and I changed all the settings. But still I can't install vim using apt-get install vim-gnome.  Can any one help?
[17:53] <erUSUL> snr1: see if proxy still configured in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
[17:53] <erUSUL> !repeat | snr1
[17:53] <Hesay1st> 系统部是自带了vim嘛=.=
[17:53] <MBG1987> i want to design a web 2.0 site what's the best language to do it php or html or..
[17:54] <hoschi> Hi, where are the xmodmap files located in ubuntu?
[17:54] <Daekdroom> MBG1987, PHP.
[17:54] <steffan> !repeat | snr1
[17:54] <erUSUL> !cn | Hesay1st
[17:54] <steffan> snr1: can you pastebin the error please?
[17:54] <Hesay1st> MBG1987:  PHP
[17:54] <steffan> !pastebin | snr1
[17:54] <snr1> erUSUL: etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ there is no such file available
[17:55] <erUSUL> is a dir
[17:55] <snr1> ok
[17:55] <[manas]> is it any chance to delete encrypted partition without pass, plus to recovery data???
[17:56] <markitoxs> how can i see what process is uploading traffic like crazy on my system?
[17:56] <erUSUL> [manas]: what use is a encrypted partition you can just recover data without password ??
[17:56] <erUSUL> markitoxs: iftop ?
[17:57] <pizzledizzle> what's a good binary newsreader for linux cli?
[17:57] <DasEi> [manas]: I don't get the question full, yes you can delete crypted data w/o pass
[17:58] <[manas]> erUSUL, ntfs DasEi but how to recover data???
[17:58] <babbageclunk> soadkombucha: I've done that and rebooted, but I still can't connect over wireless. What else do I need to do afterwards?
[17:58] <DasEi> markitoxs: installing trafshow is one solution, also check speedometer,networkanalyis (under system)
[17:58] <DasEi> [manas]: err ? delete or recover ?
[17:59] <erUSUL> [manas]: as i said the whole point of encrypted partritions is "no password; no data"
[17:59] <aloon> I tried at one point to get rid of KDE , and now in terminal I get "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:" , is there a way I can cancel those programs being removed ?
[17:59] <aloon> It lists all the KDE apps , and I was hoping to cancel their deletion
[17:59] <soadkombucha> babbageclunk: Hold on
[17:59] <erUSUL> aloon: you can try to mark them as manually installed... i think aptitude can do that
[18:00] <erUSUL> aloon: not know exactly how though
[18:00] <soadkombucha> babbageclunk: paste those commands: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/456003/
[18:00] <aloon> I think what I did was uninstall one kde thing in synaptic
[18:00] <DasEi> [manas]: more precise, what do want to do ?
[18:00] <[manas]> DasEi, erUSUL i want to delete and it will be good to recover but i dont remember pass
[18:00] <aloon> and it wants to get rid of all the rest
[18:00] <soadkombucha> babbageclunk: It should work then
[18:01] <erUSUL> [manas]: to delete a partition you can use any partition editor like gparted; to recover data from a encripted partition you need the password
[18:02] <DasEi> [manas]: you might then back it up for a later remembrance, else data is lost unless pass is weak and you want to crack it
[18:03] <markitoxs> DasEi, using trafshow i can see the port thats being used, but how to check the process?
[18:03] <erUSUL> markitoxs: sudo lsof -i :portnumber
[18:04] <markitoxs> erUSUL, thx
[18:04] <[manas]> DasEi, erUSUL to crack will take time and its 1TB to back up, how i can delete it??
[18:04] <markitoxs> why the hell would pulseuadio stream 55k' s per second to this ip? 224.0.0.56:46436
[18:04] <DasEi> markitoxs: top , better htop, then F& to sort
[18:04] <DasEi> F6  *
[18:05] <DasEi> [manas]: you might then back it up for a later remembrance, else data is lost unless pass is weak and you want to crack it
[18:05] <erUSUL> markitoxs: someone is listening to what you ar listening ? see what programs are using pulseaudio ?
[18:06] <DasEi> [manas]: sorry, typo ^ , use gparted to re-format that parti
[18:06] <[manas]> Thanks
[18:07] <soadkombucha> babbageclunk: any luck
[18:07] <markitoxs> erUSUL, that is SO weird, im not listening to anything on my system
[18:07] <DasEi> markitoxs: ethereal gives extended info on network-usage
[18:07] <soadkombucha> back
[18:07] <erUSUL> markitoxs: go to sound preferences and see what apps are using pulseaudio
[18:08] <ace_> Hi all. Can anyone help me create a startup flash drive?
[18:08] <DasEi> ace_: sure
[18:08] <babbageclunk> soadkombucha: nearly there - I deleted the directory from /usr/src/rt8192...
[18:08] <DasEi> ace_: just a live on a usb-stick ?
[18:09] <babbageclunk> soadkombucha: so insmod cant't find the .o file
[18:09] <babbageclunk> just rebuilding it now
[18:09] <ace_> DasEi yes
[18:09] <Over^Kill> Ok I built my NIC card driver, which file should it be the .gz file right? if so how do I install it?
[18:09] <DasEi> ace_: sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[18:09] <DasEi> ace_: fetch the iso, md5sum it ..
[18:09] <jake__> hello
[18:09] <ace_> having trouble ok let me try that thanks
[18:10] <jake__> i have a question?
[18:10] <DasEi> !ask
[18:10] <[manas]> DasEi, i cant find hdd with gparted
[18:11] <jake__> i have ubuntu and windows 7 in dual boot and i was wondering how to get rid of windows 7?
[18:11] <DasEi> [manas]: does sudo fdisk -l list it ?
[18:11] <babbageclunk> soadkombucha, It seemed to work (no errors), but I still can't connect.
[18:11] <erUSUL> jake__: reformat its partition. use for data storage ...
[18:11] <jake__> ok
[18:11] <jake__> thanks
[18:11] <erUSUL> jake__: or to hold your /home
[18:11] <erUSUL> !separatehome
[18:12] <DasEi> jake__: gparted >> reformat it's partions, then remove entry from grub
[18:12] <aendruk> Where is the menu where I can enable and disable system services such as CUPS and bluetooth?
[18:12] <DasEi> ace_: say when installed and iso is down
[18:12] <abhi_nav> aendruk, you can remove bluetooth from system=>admin=>startup manager
[18:13] <DasEi> !info bum | aendruk
[18:13] <[manas]> DasEi, its show some Disk /dev/sdb: 134 MB, 134217728 bytes but its not 134 mb
[18:13] <DasEi> aendruk: sudo apt-get install bum
[18:13] <jake__> i'm not to fimailry with linux so please explain
[18:13] <jake__> more
[18:14] <DasEi> jake__: you are in ubu now on that box ?
[18:14] <jake__> what?
[18:14] <ader10> How do I stop the password prompt after resuming from suspend?
[18:14] <DasEi> jake__: you are in your ubuntu-system on that pc now  ?
[18:14] <Over^Kill> I built my NIC card driver, which file should it be the .gz file right? if so how do I install it?
[18:14] <jake__> yes
[18:14] <jake__> i am
[18:15] <DasEi> !who | jake__:
[18:15] <DasEi> jake__: sudo apt-get install gparted
 like this
[18:15] <cesc> where can I learn more about the directory structure used in linux... (in ubuntu in this case) bin / boot / dev / etc / proc / root etc... I'm a noob on linux. Any good website for starters?
 be back have to eat some lunch
[18:16] <DasEi> jake__: DasEi is my nick , ubott.. is the channel ro-bot , triggered by ! , like:
[18:16] <DasEi> !brain
[18:16] <[manas]> DasEi, its show some Disk /dev/sdb: 134 MB, 134217728 bytes but its not 134 mb
[18:16] <aendruk> abhi_nav, DasEi: thanks, both of those helped.
[18:17] <cwtiyar> how can i download videos from youtube?
[18:17] <babbageclunk> !tab
[18:17] <DasEi> [manas]: fdisk -l won't show that drive ?
[18:17] <[manas]> DasEi, it shows nut only 134 mb
[18:18] <laeg> does power management not come into affect when vlc is open? if so, will it differentiate between media playing in vlc and media that has finished?
[18:18] <DasEi> cwtiyar: either by a ff plugin or by youtube-dl
[18:18] <async> hi to all. who know wireshark analog for linux(ubuntu)?
[18:18] <CQ> I have a sound system that's not working... is pulseaudio standard, or should I remove it?
[18:18] <cwtiyar> DasEi , what its name in ff plugin?
[18:18] <babbageclunk> I think I've installed the RealTek driver, but I still can't connect.
[18:19] <abhi_nav> abhinav, :D
[18:19] <SeySayux> Hi. What would be the fastest, easiest way to make a deb package and host it (if possible, without using Ubuntu)? I've got no prior experience with making deb packages, only rpm.
[18:19] <ace_> I'm downloading an iso now I think
[18:19] <DasEi> [manas]: then you got another prob, sure drive is up and connected at all ?
[18:19] <abhi_nav> abhinav, I think nature planned us to be twin but something goes wrong so he recover that here - we have look a like nicks!!!! :D
[18:20] <DasEi> cwtiyar: video downloadhelper, and I think sth. for  youtube only there is, too , search ff addons
[18:20] <shay27> wow check this out ! this website let you translate your text to 57 languages for free ! or you can download & install it on your computer !! http://www.best-translator.com
[18:20] <maksimk0> русские здесь есть?
[18:20] <cwtiyar> DasEi ,thanks i searched for some
[18:20] <SlidingHorn> !ru | maksimk0
[18:20] <async> есть
[18:21] <DasEi> [manas]: if drive is correctly connected, fdisk should find it
[18:21] <Over^Kill> I built my NIC card driver, which file should it be the .gz file right? if so how do I install it?
[18:22] <DasEi> Over^Kill: I havent followed all your conv. ; sure you need to compile the driver for that nick ?
[18:22] <DasEi> nic*
 I think I did all that stuff
 I just need to do the install now, I did the Make parts
[18:23] <Over^Kill> but the instructions didnt tell me how to install it lol
[18:23] <maksimk0> would xubuntu work correctly on EEEtop all in one?
[18:23] <[manas]> DasEi, its coretly connected but its shows it but as i sayed 134mb i think i did something with Disk utylity
[18:23] <DasEi> Over^Kill: you did configure, make, make install, installed build-essential beforehands ?
[18:24] <DasEi> [manas]: is it a single drive, this 1 TB one ?
 I believe so, I have an .sh file, .gz file, and a buncha .h, .c, .o files
[18:24] <DasEi> Over^Kill: that's a little dangerous, as my crystal-ball lacks battery;; ./blah.sh
 thats ok if its dangerious I can reinstall I just want to try and get the NIC card working
[18:25] <DasEi> !compile | Over^Kill
[18:25] <tom-b1> in Ubuntu 9.04 , the Nautilus browser has an option to "toggle between button and text based location bar". In 10.04 the "text based" option appears to not exist. Does this very useful setting no longer exist, or am I missing a setting somewhere ? Thanks
[18:26] <SIREN> What is Truecrypt ?
 I did the compile
[18:26] <DasEi> Over^Kill:  a *sh is an executable script, so..
[18:26] <vu1kan> tom-b1 press ctrl+l to get the text based bar
[18:26] <Pirate_Hunter> !truecrypt | SIREN
 yes, so just ./name.sh
[18:26] <DasEi> Over^Kill:  sudo chmod +x blah.sh
[18:26] <abhi_nav> SIREN, http://www.truecrypt.org/
[18:26] <DasEi> Over^Kill: then ./name.sh
[18:27] <DasEi> (make it executable first)
[18:27] <[manas]> DasEi, sorry its not 1tb its 120gb my fault it sata laptop drive
[18:27] <CybeRebel> hello all, can someone tell me how to stop tor running at boot? Please
[18:27] <DasEi> [manas]: so you have it in fdisk now ?
[18:27] <SIREN> dose truecrypt affect bios passwords? i.e. could i have a bios password and trucrypt
[18:27] <Random833> anyone know how to make qt apps pick up my cursor size setting?
 :( no such file or directory
[18:28] <Random833> i've had the same problem with compiz, but i have other issues with compiz too so i don't use it
[18:28] <DasEi> SIREN: sure, two complete independent things
[18:28] <soadkombucha> babbageclunk: Did you ever get it?
[18:28] <[manas]> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/8BZZ4MMw
[18:28] <DasEi> Over^Kill: cd in that dir, ls to verify file is there, use <TAB< for auto-completiton
[18:28] <SIREN> DasEi, cool
[18:29] <Tiflomix> Ho
[18:29] <Tiflomix> Ho
[18:29] <Tiflomix> Ho
[18:29] <Tiflomix> Ho
[18:29] <FloodBot2> Tiflomix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:29] <[manas]> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/8BZZ4MMw its a /dev/sdb
[18:29] <aendruk> CUPS isn't running and I don't know why. Is it usually listed in Preferences -> Startup Applications, or is there anywhere else I might have absentmindedly disabled it?
[18:29] <what_if> the scripts in my /etc/profile.d directory are not being executed automatically on login. how can I fix this?
[18:29] <sandr1x> besides k3b and brasero, what else can be used in gnome to burn a DVD?
[18:29] <SIREN> I have a lenovo T500 and is there anyway to change the way setting for the trackpad?
[18:29] <babbageclunk> soadkombucha: Not yet - in the output of lshw -C network it says "network DISABLED"
[18:30] <DasEi> [manas]: saw it, so that's the one you want to free ?
[18:30] <sandr1x> what_if, put them into /etc/rc.local?
[18:30] <soadkombucha> babbageclunk: Does it show the networks?
[18:30] <[manas]> DasEi, yes mate set it free like a bird
[18:30] <babbageclunk> soadkombucha: following this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WirelessTroubleshootingGuide
[18:30] <roosh> ndiswapper "couldn't load driver netr7364," any help?
[18:30] <what_if> sandr1x: well, these scripts are installed by other packages... (Realplayer for one)
[18:30] <DasEi> [manas]: gparted >> uper right corner, switch to sdb
[18:30] <babbageclunk> soadkombucha, wireless networks? not
[18:30] <soadkombucha> babbageclunk: Okay. At least you got the drivers installed and they're recognized right?
[18:30] <babbageclunk> soadkombucha, yes, it looks like it
[18:31] <soadkombucha> babbageclunk: OK hopefully the troubleshoot guide works for you
[18:31] <[manas]> DasEi, and it shows 125 mb
[18:31] <sandr1x> what_if, put their paths into /etc/rc.local, so that they will be executed for sure
[18:31] <babbageclunk> soadkombucha: thanks for your help!
[18:31] <DasEi> [manas]: device > new parti-table
[18:32] <hazard> I'm fairly new to Ubuntu, and having a bit of a time using apt. Is there a way to search repositories? I'm trying to find picasa.
[18:32] <[manas]> DasEi, msdos?
[18:32] <what_if> sandr1x: that should work. Perhaps file a bug as well? Is anyone else having this issue ?
[18:32] <DasEi> [manas]: yes
[18:32] <sandr1x> hazard, apt-cache search keyword
[18:32] <vu1kan> hazard use the synaptic package manager
[18:32] <sandr1x> what_if, dunno
[18:32] <hazard> sandr1x: Thanks.
[18:32] <DasEi> [manas]: which OS should access this space in the later ?
[18:32] <sandr1x> hazard, welcome
[18:33] <[manas]> DasEi, Error while creating partition table
[18:33] <hazard> vu1kan: Thanks, but I generally prefer the command line whenever reasonable.
[18:33] <soadkombucha> babbageclunk: Not a problem!
[18:33] <Shadowknight> I'm trying to install ubuntu, but the livecd keeps locking up. It shows a graphic at the bottom of the page on boot, but then switches to a blinking white cursor. If I press f6 during boot, I get the menu but I cannot install the O/S, I get a page worth of text showing it's starting to boot, but it hangs.
[18:33] <sandr1x> what is the console-like DVD-burning tool?
[18:33] <soadkombucha> babbageclunk: It's convenient I had the same wireless card
[18:33] <[manas]> DasEi, i but win there later
[18:33] <[manas]> *put
[18:33] <sebsebseb> Shadowknight: Got your ISO still?
[18:34] <sandr1x> Shadowknight, try to put xforcevesa as a boot option
[18:34] <erUSUL> sandr1x: growisofs ?
[18:34] <sandr1x> erUSUL, syntax?
[18:35] <Shadowknight> I've used xforcevesa, and it hasn't helped. I've also made sure to set the BIOS for my Asus psc800 motherboard to compatbilitiy mode
[18:35] <erUSUL> sandr1x: to burn what? an iso file? a folder? « man growisofs » examples section
[18:35] <[manas]> DasEi, any idea why im getting eror
[18:35] <sandr1x> erUSUL, folder
[18:36] <Shadowknight> sebsebseb: I still have the iso. I'm also downloading the alternate boot CD, but I'm still hoping to get the GUI version I've downloaded to work first, if possible
[18:36] <erUSUL> sandr1x: directly from man page --> growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -R -J /some/files
[18:36] <sebsebseb> Shadowknight: ok check your ISO's are good
[18:36] <Over^Kill> Anyone running Ubuntu on Hyper V?
[18:36] <sandr1x> Shadowknight, how about nolapic?
[18:36] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | Shadowknight
[18:36] <sebsebseb> !hashes
[18:37] <DasEi> [manas]: is the sys mounted ?
[18:37] <ace_> gotta reboot brb
[18:37] <sandr1x> erUSUL, thx
[18:37] <Shadowknight> tried noapic and nolapic as well, no success
[18:37] <[manas]> DasEi, ???
[18:37] <sebsebseb> Shadowknight: if your installing form a bad  CD, well then yep likely to get problems
[18:37] <DasEi> [manas]: right-click it in gparted, choose unmount, if not greyed out
[18:37] <soadkombucha> Shadowknight: acpi=off?
[18:38] <[manas]> DasEi, is not monted
[18:38] <Shadowknight> tried acpi off as well
[18:38] <DasEi> [manas]: mount in trml also shows all mounted drives
[18:38] <thune3> Shadowknight: what graphics chip/card do you have?
[18:39] <Shadowknight> I'm using ATI, and I know they have problems. I tried throwing in an old Gefore 2, but the card is dead
[18:39] <[manas]> DasEi, is not mounted
[18:39] <Shadowknight> There isn't anywhere local where I can get an Nvidia AGP card on a Sunday :( Assuming that is the problem...
[18:39] <DasEi> [manas]: do any apps access it so it's busy ? like truecrypt ?
[18:40] <IamFED> hi\
[18:41] <[manas]> DasEi, sorry dont get u
[18:42] <IamFED> can someone Help me plz
[18:42] <jake__> ok i'm back
[18:42] <ikonia> IamFED: you need to assk a question then
[18:42] <IamFED> im trying to set up a wireless connection on ubuntu
[18:42] <IamFED> it doesnt scan my WIFI
[18:42] <IamFED> =[
[18:43] <win_2_linux> here's what i was told, go into admin drivers and have it look for drivers
[18:43] <jake__> i have ubuntu and windows 7 in a dual boot how do i get rid of windows 7?
[18:43] <DasEi> [manas]: let's try terminal then, so weg output from it, close gparted
[18:43] <IamFED> admin drivers? wheres that
[18:43] <IamFED> this is my first time using linuX
[18:43] <[manas]> DasEi, done
[18:44] <ds2008> hi
[18:44] <slow-motion> re
[18:44] <thune3> Shadowknight: just guessing, you might try 'nomodeset' or 'modeset=0' or 'xdriver=vesa'
[18:44] <enigma87> hey guys, anyone have experience writing preseed files for ubuntu/debian?
[18:44] <[manas]> DasEi, what command?
[18:44] <DasEi> [manas]:sudo parted /dev/sdb mklabel msdos
[18:44] <duffydack> jake__, where is win7 on your hd in relation to ubuntu
[18:45] <ds2008> does anyone know, what's wrong, if a fresh installed ubuntu lucid always freezes 3-5mins after booting? (on the same pc debian runs quite perfect)
[18:45] <[manas]> DasEi, Error: Input/output error during write on /dev/sdb
[18:45] <[manas]> Retry/Ignore/Cancel?
[18:45] <tomasz> Who knows how to add change volume to default panel
[18:45] <win_2_linux> IAmFed go into system administration hardware drivers
[18:45] <enigma87> ds2008: have you tried running memtest?
[18:46] <win_2_linux> it helped me get it up
[18:46] <win_2_linux> get wireless up that is
[18:46] <DasEi> [manas]: ignore
[18:46] <ds2008> yes! memtest runs without any problems
[18:46] <DasEi> enigma87: time ago for me , but system-config-kickstart did it for me
[18:46] <ds2008> actually debian is running on the pc - quite perfect! but i prefer using ubuntu
[18:47] <enigma87> DasEi: system-config-kickstart created the file for you? I'm just stuck on "Write changes to disk?" for the LVM partitions
[18:48] <DasEi> [manas]: through ?
[18:48] <Dittersdorf> Hi. Does anyone here plays Nethack on Ubuntu?
[18:49] <vu1kan> tomasz what ver. of ubuntu?
[18:49] <tomasz> vu1kan: 10.04
[18:49] <[manas]> DasEi, Information: You may need to update /etc/fstab.
[18:49] <vu1kan> tomasz rightclick your panel, choose 'add to panel' and add 'indicator applet'
[18:50] <DasEi> [manas]: run the same command again :
[18:50] <DasEi> [manas]:sudo parted /dev/sdb mklabel msdos
[18:50] <flex54> #xbins
[18:51] <Shadowknight> checked the hash for the distro I download, it's perfect
[18:51] <DasEi> enigma87: yes it did, but I will leave for food soon and so now aren't willing to dig it out
[18:51] <[manas]> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/PgUf3T9U
[18:51] <tomasz> vu1kan: what next?
[18:51] <flex54> #xbins
[18:51] <enigma87> DasEi: lol same here, huungry
[18:51] <Dittersdorf_> Hi. does someone here plays Nethack?
[18:52] <grkblood> how do i find a version of moonlight that i think i installed from source?
[18:52] <DasEi> [manas]:second try still write error ?
[18:52] <vu1kan> tomasz that should give you a panel app with a little speaker and an envolope, the speaker's the volume control
[18:52] <grkblood> i tried dpkg-query -l | grep -i moonlight
[18:52] <grkblood> didnt get anything
[18:52] <[manas]> DasEi, yes
[18:53] <tomasz> vu1kan: oky thaks
[18:53] <[manas]> DasEi, hdd dead??
[18:53] <DasEi> [manas]: could be, we'll check in a moment, now try :
[18:54] <ramit> hi
[18:54] <soadkombucha> hi
[18:54] <DasEi> [manas]:sudo parted /dev/sdb mkpart NTFS
[18:55] <Dittersdorf_> Hi all. Does someone here plays Nethack on Ubuntu?
[18:55] <ramit> can anybody tell me why sometime thunderbird is not working for ldap client in lucid
[18:55] <[manas]> DasEi, Error: Cannot have a partition outside the disk!
[18:55] <loopidity> man, finally fot this machine run ubuntu, sounds works, mic works, plugged in the cam and flashed green, is there a way to check the webcam also=
[18:55] <loopidity> ?
[18:55] <vu1kan> Dittersdorf_ try #ubuntu-gaming
[18:56] <Dittersdorf_> vulkam - thanks. I will
[18:56] <ace_> does anyone know why I can't unmount my external hard drive from Ubuntu and the OS asks for it when I reboot?
[18:56] <ramit> thunderbird not working for ldap client in lucid
[18:56] <[manas]> DasEi, Error: Cannot have a partition outside the disk!
[18:56] <loopidity> oh no, wireless card is not working on the machine!
[18:57] <tomasz> vu1kan: oky but when I open for example xchat I have icon after change volume, how to change position of it
[18:57] <DasEi> [manas]:got it, have no size specified, try gparted again, should show unallocated now
[18:58] <vu1kan> tomasz i don't think you can change the order of the indicators...i've been trying to get rid of the envelope for days...i never use it
[18:58] <ace_> Dasei I made the flash drive but it seems to be an install disk and I have one of those on CD
[18:58] <didiermah> fuck -you angland!!
[18:58] <didiermah> !fr
[18:58] <[manas]> DasEi, everything same
[18:58] <ramit> aplay -l
[18:59] <wolter> Everytime I update, wpasupplicant is messed up along with wireless in my laptop, until I reinstall the package
[18:59] <ramit> and package for sound card is
[18:59] <DasEi> ace_: I don't get you.. you used an alternate but wanted a live cd ?
[18:59] <Shadowknight> Okay, it's working. I was putting in the commands via the command line that shows up, but it turns out flagging them in the F6 menu gets them to work... I'm installing now.
[18:59] <soadkombucha> loopidity: What wireless card
[18:59] <wolter> any ideas?
[18:59] <hazard> So, now I've managed to get apt to install picasa, but it appears as if it's installing a Windows version. It fails to start, and the errors are segfaults that mention *.dir.exe.so and HKEY entries.
[18:59] <loopidity> intel corp pro wireless
[18:59] <tomasz> vu1kan: oky thanks
[18:59] <loopidity> 2200BG
[18:59] <ace_> I just wanted to make the system->create startup disk menu item to work for me
[18:59] <DasEi> [manas]: then either drive is broken or it's locked, what a type of dive is it ?
[18:59] <hdon> does anyone know if there's open source VPN software that is decentralized (peer-to-peer)
[19:00] <DasEi> !who | ace_
[19:00] <ramit> go to network manager and change settings there
[19:00] <sandr1x> hdon, openvpn?
[19:00] <soadkombucha> loopidity: Hmm
[19:00] <[manas]> DasEi, sata laptop
[19:00] <ramit> openvpn what
[19:00] <DasEi> ace_: that's usb-creator then
[19:00] <ramit> about it
[19:00] <ramit> sandr
[19:00] <loopidity> after such an effort got ubuntu running, but now agian...this is fun though
[19:01] <ace_> dasei I just wanted a repair disk to boot my operation system in case it went bad
[19:01] <hdon> sandr1x, oh does that do it?
[19:01] <ace_> dasei I did not want to wipe out and restore the os
[19:01] <ramit> AAAAAAAas
[19:01] <sandr1x> hdon, i suppose
[19:01] <sandr1x> but i may be mistaken
[19:02] <soadkombucha> loopidity: Yeah. There was a driver that we used last night and I can't remember what it was
[19:02] <hdon> it looks like it has a "p2p" mode, but that's apparently "point-to-point" mode not "peer-to-peer"
[19:02] <DasEi> ace_: last you said you wanted aa bootable usb stick ? well, for repair, burn an alternate cd (right 386 or 6)
[19:02] <hdon> maybe they're the same
[19:02] <loopidity> soadkombucha, the same device?
[19:02] <DasEi> [manas]: sudo hdparm -z /dev/sdb returns ?
[19:02] <didiermah> fuuuck all people i this saloon
[19:02] <vu1kan> !language | didermah
[19:03] <soadkombucha> loopidity: It was generic wireless drivers for intel
[19:03] <soadkombucha> There are outdated drivers
[19:03] <ace_> Dasei the system menu item System->Administration-->Create Startup Disk will not let me burn a cd
[19:03] <[manas]> DasEi, /dev/sdb:
[19:03] <[manas]>  re-reading partition table
[19:03] <Raj> anyone there?
[19:03] <ace_> raj we are here
[19:04] <DasEi> !burn | ace_:
[19:04] <abhi_nav> 1494 bots
[19:04] <soadkombucha> loopidity: Did you try installing the wireless backport modules?
[19:04] <ace_> thanks ubottu
[19:04] <DasEi> ace_: k3b and brasero are most common
[19:04] <abhi_nav> hello Raj :)
[19:04] <loopidity> soadkombucha, the code?
[19:04] <Raj> thank you. :) i'm facing some problems with my WiFi. It says connected but i couldn't browse
[19:05] <DasEi> ace_: ubott.. is the channel ro-bot, invoked by !, like
[19:05] <ace_> thank you Dasei
[19:05] <soadkombucha> loopidity: The drivers hold on
[19:05] <DasEi> !brain
[19:05] <ace_> oh
[19:05] <soadkombucha> loopidity: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download
[19:05] <grkblood> im trying to get this vid to play and i have the latest moonlight stuff in the repo but it wont play: http://www.sherdog.com/videos/recent/The-Man-Who-Beat-Fedor-2507
[19:05] <DasEi> ace_: the menuitem lets you create a bootable usb, not cd
[19:06] <Raj> abihi_nav: , ace_: do i have prefix the user name while chatting?
[19:06] <ace_> dasei: yes but it trys to take input for it from my external harddrive
[19:06] <DasEi> ace_: sure, it needs an iso-file for it
[19:07] <abhi_nav> Raj, you type some initial letter to whome you want to talk for e.g. abhi and then press tab
[19:07] <ace_> Dasei, is the net the only place I can get and iso file?
[19:07] <[manas]> DasEi, /dev/sdb: re-reading partition table
[19:07] <abhi_nav> Raj, its helpful when you write the nick to whome you are chatting to
[19:08] <Raj> abhi_nav: thank you ,, i got it :)
[19:08] <DasEi> ace_: you can also extract it from a cd
[19:08] <abhi_nav> Raj :)
[19:08] <aretrfre34> hi, i'm sharing my laptop's wan with another, they are pinging each other but second cant ping to wan, says bad address 'google.com' what shoud I change?
[19:08] <lawj7> Hi, I'm trying to install eeebuntu on my netbook but grub failed to install properly from the live usb.  I'm trying to follow some online instructions but "find /boot/grub/stage1" doesn't exist so I'm stuck at this point.  Any suggestions on how to install grub properly?
[19:08] <ace_> DasEi oh ok I am confused but will think more about it
[19:08] <cesc> where can I learn more about the directory structure used in linux... (in ubuntu in this case) bin / boot / dev / etc / proc / root etc... I'm a noob on linux. Any good website for starters?
[19:08] <om26er> lawj7, you should install ubuntu netbook edition
[19:08] <jthunder> having problems with the display on 9.10.  When I have HDMI connected I get text on boot, but when xbmc starts blackscreen (although the LCD shows the 1080p being set).  When I plug in the VGA it works fine though.  Any ideas?  xorg.conf?  VGA ignore option?
[19:09] <om26er> lawj7, http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook
[19:09] <CaptainTrek> does the package byobu and the package screen depend on each other in Karmic?
[19:09] <Raj> abhi_nav:  ya abhi... actually, i'm now connected via wired network. everything looks fine with my wifi. but  i couldn't browse the net... while configuring it for the first time... it asked for WPA & WPA2 password.
[19:09] <vu1kan> !manual | cesc
[19:09] <lawj7> om26er, I'm trying to install eebuntu though which is for the netbook?
[19:09] <DasEi> [manas]: so that works, so drive is not completly dead then, I'll be off in a minute, seems either like a locked or faulty drive then
[19:09] <DasEi> !iso | ace_
[19:10] <ace_> ty Dasei
[19:10] <Raj> abhi_nav: i gave my wifi network password. after that it asked Keyring... i chose a new password for it... do i have to give the same password as wifi there?
[19:10] <om26er> lawj7, eeebuntu is not supported in this channel (probably in no other channel). Ubuntu Netbook Editon on the other hand is part of the ubuntu project whose support is provided here.
[19:10] <abhi_nav> Raj, wait
[19:10] <DasEi>  ace_: iso is an image-format used for cd's
[19:10] <[manas]> DasEi, so what should i do mate???
[19:11] <Raj> abhi_nav: ok
[19:11] <wolter> no idea why wpasupplicant gets messed up with upgrades
[19:11] <wolter> ?
[19:11] <DasEi> [manas]: check your syslog for errors concerning that drive, if none, run testdisk on it
[19:11] <abhi_nav> Raj no keyring password is different. you give it keyring paswword when it ask it for. give it wifi password in the feild of wifi password.
[19:11] <lawj7> om26er, how about help for installing grub properly then which is a distro independant problem :)
[19:11] <[manas]> DasEi, thanks mate have a nice rest of the day
[19:12] <DasEi> someone willing to help [manas] to find out whether his sdb is broken ?
[19:12] <vu1kan> !grub | lawj7
[19:12] <Raj> abhi_nav:  what is the difference between them.... in windows we have to give only one password... why it is two different passwords here?
[19:12] <lawj7> vulkan, thanks
[19:13] <aretrfre34> what should i change in iptable to make it FORWARD to DNS?
[19:13] <abhi_nav> Raj, i dont know the exact technical difference.
[19:13] <soadkombucha> Raj: You need to give elevated privileges.
[19:13] <_2> what is wrong with the 10.4 install cd's ???   i can't get one to boot at all in my laptop.
[19:13] <ace_> Dasei thanks I do know iso from when I installed the systems
[19:13] <soadkombucha> Raj: Linux refuses to give you root (admin) access unless you verify it. I don't know why you need your keyring to connect to wifi though
[19:14] <Raj> soadkombucha:  i'm using live cd
[19:14] <soadkombucha> Raj: Ahh
[19:14] <chowlala> heya, anyone here know if there's a linux ppt/impress that's as good as keynote on mac?
[19:14] <ace_> 2 try pressing f12 at startup
[19:14] <om26er> lawj7, those documentations are for grub2 eeebuntu apparently uses grub legacy :(
[19:14] <_2> ace_ very funny
[19:15] <lawj7> om26er, its grub2 it uses with the latest release
[19:15] <ace_> that's how it works on my laptop
[19:15] <Raj> soadkombucha: abhi_nav : i want to connect to my wifi using Live CD...
[19:15] <abhi_nav> Raj, i mean I know that there is difference. keyring used for authentication. and wifi is your real wifi password. its for security. what I mean was I dont know the 'exact' difference in term of technical language
[19:15] <ace_> 2: it could be f8
[19:15] <_2> ace_ i'm sorry.  i'm not the normal moron, i know how to select the boot device.  the disk wont boot
[19:15] <soadkombucha> abhi_nav: What's the default live keyring?
[19:15] <vu1kan> !grub2 | lawj7
[19:15] <soadkombucha> is it toor?
[19:15] <om26er> lawj7, there is a latest release? wikipedia suggested last version came 13months ago.. wikipedia arg!
[19:16] <ace_> I thought it said these were desktop operation system
[19:16] <ruser> How do I overwrite /etc/modules if it is a read-only Knoppix-based live CD?  I know that in Knoppix, you can overwrite, but not in this Knoppix clone (Auditor)
[19:16] <loopidity> soadkombucha, downloaded, now will extract - hope it works, its of a grandma who wants to get ubuntu anyhow!
[19:16] <abhi_nav> soadkombucha, no there is no default live keyring. we have to set it
[19:16] <ruser> What's a good overall live CD other than Ubuntu with wireless support
[19:16] <ruser> Mint doesn't work, Knoppix donesn't work with my laptop
[19:16] <soadkombucha> loopidity: Alright. Why's she want Ubuntu, if I may ask.
[19:16] <lawj7> om26er, I'm not sure i just downloaded the latest release they have.  First time install of the distro.
[19:16] <ruser> What's a good overall live CD other than Ubuntu with wireless support
[19:16] <Raj> abhi_nav: ok.. what should i chose as keyring... it can be my own and a new one right?
[19:16] <soadkombucha> ruser: Fedora? But that's a completely different package manager
[19:16] <ruser> ok
[19:17] <dpac> Guys, got a problem here... my ubuntu doesn't asks for password, even when I've set to ask everytime on logon.. running 10.10
[19:17] <ruser> that's fine, I'll try fedora
[19:17] <loopidity> soadkombucha, she said she heard a lot of it from her cousin and wants it desparately : although all she needs is skype
[19:17] <vu1kan> ruser check out livecdlist.com
[19:17] <abhi_nav> Raj, it 'may' be as same as your computer password. anything you want and you can remember.
[19:17] <loopidity> soadkombucha, and i said i am here, you wish will be fulfilled
[19:17] <loopidity> lol
[19:17] <Pirate_Hunter> ruser, knopix doesn't work with your lappy hard to believe and neither does ubuntu what lappy you got
[19:17] <chowlala> !keyjnote
[19:17] <soadkombucha> loopidity: Ahh alright. Skype on Linux isn't too bad.
[19:17] <ace_> fedora sucks
[19:17] <om26er> lawj7, its probably version 3.0
[19:17] <loopidity> soadkombucha, hope the webcam works, got the audio and mic working
[19:17] <Pirate_Hunter> ruser, what you NIC?
[19:17] <soadkombucha> ace_: For wireless it's more stable than ubuntu seeing as it's been around FOREVER
[19:17] <om26er> lawj7, I meant eeebuntu 3.0
[19:17] <lawj7> om26er, 4b1
[19:17] <soadkombucha> loopidity: Install Cheese to find out
[19:17] <_2> ace_ i thought it might be just the amd64 cd,  but the i386 boots to the same black screen with a blinking cursor in the upper left corner.    never shows any writting,  but it does show color change and two pretty icons at the bottom for about 3 seconds.
[19:17] <ruser> my nic is Broadcom Wireless 1390
[19:17] <loopidity> yup
[19:17] <lawj7> om26er, 4beta1 *i think*
[19:18] <aretrfre34> help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9517413#post9517413
[19:18] <soadkombucha> loopidity: I have on Ubuntu problem that I can't fix apparently
[19:18] <ruser> Gonna try Redhat
[19:18] <ace_> 2: may be a problem with the graphics processing unit
[19:18] <om26er> lawj7, then its new and google suggests 4.0 will be based on debian not ubuntu... hmmm
[19:18] <Raj> abhi_nav: it says connectred... but keeps on asking for password.. wirelss network authenticat windows pops up... asking for WPA & WPA2 password
[19:19] <ace_> 2: I have only installed on desktops sorry
[19:19] <abhi_nav> Raj,  password is wrong. or encryption method you selected is wrong.
[19:19] <om26er> lawj7, those documentations will certainly help you :-)
[19:19] <lawj7> om26er, yeah there moving to debian with the latest release...cheers!
[19:20] <_2> ace_ maybe.  it is ati.    but that still shouldn't keep an installation cd from getting to the boot options screen.    and yeah i really need to talk with someone that knows a little about the boot/startup process
[19:20] <marisa> is there a way to install ubuntu as dual boot without overwriting the mbr?
[19:21] <abhi_nav> marienz, virtualbox, install inside windows
[19:21] <om26er> marisa, WUBI maybe
[19:21] <om26er> !wubi
[19:21] <_2> marisa you don't have to install a boot loader (i.e. over write your MBR)  but you do need some way to "boot" your installation.
[19:21] <lawj7> om26er, /boot/grub/device.map is empty :S
[19:21] <lost> anyone can dcc that file to me linux-source-2.6.35.tar.bz2
[19:21] <abhi_nav> sorry its marisa ^^
[19:21] <marisa> That is what I am trying to figure out
[19:21] <om26er> lawj7, welcome to the beta world ;-)
[19:22] <sizzlefire> the volume control is missing on my panel, can anyone help me get it back?
[19:22] <marisa> Could i load it through windows 7 boot manager somehow?
[19:22] <lawj7> om26er, argh!
[19:22] <trism> sizzlefire: add the indicator applet back to the panel
[19:22] <vu1kan> sizzlefire: rightclick your panel, choose 'add to panel...' add the 'indicator application'
[19:22] <_2> marisa probably, but i don't do windows so can't tell you how.
[19:22] <vu1kan> *indicator applet
[19:23] <ace_> marisa windows boot manager doesn't like linux very much
[19:23] <om26er> marisa, Start windows 7 insert ubuntu cd into the cd rom open the cd there double click on wubi.exe and install inside windows without over writing mbr
[19:23] <marisa> Okay thank you all
[19:23] <enigma87> hey everyone, does anyone have experience encrypting the hard drive during preseed?
[19:24] <sizzlefire> If i try to add the indication applet it doesn't do anything, also if I go to "Sound" under system administration it just says "waiting for sound to respond"
[19:24] <_2> solid_liq:  is there a known issue with the install dot iso files for 10.4  ?
[19:24] <_2> solid_liq sorry.   that was so.
[19:24] <aretrfre34> !mount
[19:24] <om26er> lawj7, how did you install it? custom partition?
[19:24] <_2> so;  is there a known issue with the install dot iso files for 10.4  ?
[19:24] <aretrfre34> !mount | solid_liq
[19:25] <subspider> hello guys e i have a lamp server mounted the problem is i want to have the public folder on my home folder can someone help ??
[19:25] <Guest82776> can someone tell me why I have multiple smbd clients running at once?
[19:25] <lawj7> om26er, Yeah with a win xp partition
[19:25] <lost> anyone got linux-source-2.6.35.tar.bz2
[19:25] <loopidity> how to exit vi?
[19:25] <Raj> ace_: soadkombucha : abhi_nav : i'm giving the right passw for my wifi network and the security is alsow wpa & wpa2 personal... but i'm skeptic about the keyring
[19:26] <VCoolio> loopidity: :q
[19:26] <benpro> suicidepills:  it isn't thread ?
[19:26] <SwedeMike> lost: it's not released yet.
[19:26] <sebsebseb> !panels | sizzlefire
[19:26] <_2> loopidity [esc] :wq
[19:26] <benpro> suicidepills:  look with htop, go options and activate color for threads
[19:26] <ruser> Fedora takes forever to load on my 256 MB laptop from 2005
[19:26] <ruser> Is there a version of fedora
[19:26] <ruser> Is there a version of fedora that would run faster that Fedora 13 or Fedora 12
[19:26] <loopidity> oops! it was my other keyboard ...thanks, i though for a sec it was diff from vim
[19:26] <sebsebseb> ruser: try #fedora
[19:27] <lost> Sw: i need that packkage to build module
[19:27] <clayg> I am thinking of charging my neighbors money to use my wifi, I'd like to create a server/router out of an old computer and put some sort of program on there that will throttle their bandwidth, say to 50KB a sec so I can take a 500KB connection and sell 10 people 50KB bandwidth  packages
[19:27] <_2> ruser yes.   debian   :)
[19:27] <suicidepills> benpro, what will that do?  does that give more information on what each thread is doing?
[19:27] <clayg> what is a good program that can throttle bandwidth?
[19:27] <abhi_nav> Raj, we just set keyring password once then it dont ask it to us. thats it I have experience. so i dont need to type it second time. so dont know
[19:27] <mj8741> Hi everyone: I get this message when booting: 15.264138 nForce2 smbus 0000:00:0a.1: Error probing SMB1.  Anyone know how to fix?  video card is nvidia geforce 6150 le and it does boot up after stalling on this message
[19:27] <benpro> suicidepills:  each program runs threads
[19:27] <ubutom_> clayg, I think providers don't allow that
[19:27] <sizzlefire> ubottu: I did that, and the sound is still missing, I was unable to use sound so I was attempting to fix it and ended up making it much worse, I think i messed up alsa and pulseaudio, do you know how I could fix those?
[19:27] <benpro> suicidepills:  more info on google :)
[19:27] <soadkombucha> sizzlefire: What sound card
[19:28] <Raj> abhi_nav:  ya it is not asking for keyring passw... but the wifi password
[19:28] <Raj> desparately need wifi :(
[19:28] <suicidepills> benpro, is there a way to kill all threads?  ultimately, i want to restart samba 'cause i just made some changes to smb.conf
[19:28] <abhi_nav> Raj, is your connection works with ethernet?
[19:28] <loopidity> soadkombucha, ./driver-select intel
[19:28] <loopidity> soadkombucha, is that right
[19:28] <benpro> suicidepills:  sudo killall -9 smaba
[19:28] <soadkombucha> loopidity: I think so
[19:29] <benpro> suicidepills:  sudo killall -9 or_the_name_oh_the_process
[19:29] <om26er> sizzlefire, try sudo apt-get install indicator-sound logout and login again
[19:29] <Raj> abhi_nav:  ya i'm connected via ethernet
[19:29] <Royall> ?join #atheists
[19:29] <abhi_nav> Raj, check forums and wiki
[19:29] <Royall> fack
[19:29] <Royall> typing with one hand
[19:29] <FloodBot2> Royall: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:29] <suicidepills> benpro, cool thanks :)
[19:29] <om26er> sizzlefire, oops I thought sound icon was mission :(
[19:30] <sizzlefire> om26er it is, but the problem is more than just that
[19:30] <_2> !install
[19:30] <frxstrem> is there a good hash cracker for Ubuntu?
[19:30] <om26er> sizzlefire, did you upgrade from Karmic?
[19:30] <sizzlefire> om26er, no it was a fresh install, i just managed to get it really messed up
[19:30] <om26er> ha ha
[19:30] <Raj> abhi_nav:  ok.. thank you guys
[19:31] <soadkombucha> sizzlefire: What's the sound card
[19:31] <abhi_nav> Raj, welcome!
[19:31] <suicidepills> benpro, do you know what the difference is between smbd and the samba processes?
[19:31] <sizzlefire> soadkombucha: what should I run to detect that
[19:31] <benpro> suicidepills:  smbd is a deamon which launch process
[19:31] <sizzlefire> Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog] is all i could find
[19:31] <soadkombucha> Hmm I don't know.
[19:31] <suicidepills> benpro, what is the samba process for?
[19:32] <sizzlefire> if I try to do anything, it just says "Waiting for system sound to respond" and it never responds
[19:32] <benpro> suicidepills:  each process have a role
[19:32] <vu1kan> !sound | sizzlefire
[19:32] <benpro> IDK all role, try smbstatus suicidepills
[19:32] <Guest7382> helpbuntu is online
[19:33] <loopidity> soadkombucha, havin some prob. my usb drive has a space in the name. so make isnt working
[19:33] <sizzlefire> is there any way to completely reset the sound to how it is by default? it works when everything is set to default but....well i managed to mess it up
[19:34] <Merman> Someone told me I should ask this is here. No matter what resolution I choose, my screen is longer and wider than my monitor can handle.
[19:34] <vu1kan> sizzlefire: check the links i had ubottu throw up
[19:34] <Guest7382> reinstall
[19:35] <sizzlefire> vu1kan I am now however i think i tried this a few hours ago
[19:35] <guntbert> Guest7382: stop those random comments please
[19:35] <vu1kan> Merman: run 'xrandr' from the terminal, that should tell you what modes your hardware can do
[19:36] <Guest7382> what comments
[19:36] <Merman> It's wrong, though. It says I can do 2048x1536 as a max, but the max I can do is 1920x1080. And even when I switch it to that resolution, 1920x1080, it's still too wide and long
[19:37] <Merman> I've tried six different resolutions with no luck.
[19:37] <Weems> I am experiencing low sound on my Logitech USB Headset. any ideas?
[19:37] <soadkombucha> Weems: Check Alsamixer?
[19:37] <Guest7382> Weems, use colume control
[19:37] <Weems> but the mixer says its at maximum
[19:38] <guntbert> Guest7382: neither "reinstall" nor "helpbuntu is online" were really helpful
[19:38] <vu1kan> sizzlefire: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[19:39] <aretrfre34> how to share wan connection i followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing did't help they ping each other but in client if ping 'google.com bad address' why???
[19:39] <abhi_nav> aretrfre34, http://www.google.com
[19:39] <perlsyntax> does  anyone know how to setup the mwave modem driver for ubuntu?
[19:40] <perlsyntax> ?
[19:40] <aretrfre34> how to share wan connection i followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing did't help they ping each other but in client if ping 'google.com bad address' why???
[19:40] <delici0us> hmm is their a way to have all avi files open with vlc by default
[19:40] <Guest7382> perlsyntax, do you have the driver
[19:41] <abhi_nav> delici0us, you can set defautl open with
[19:41] <drhel|ipod> I think right click on the avi file.
[19:41] <SlidingHorn> delici0us, right click the file, select open with and find VLC...make sure the "always use this program" options
[19:41] <delici0us> ah i see, just thought it was doing it individually
[19:41] <delici0us> my bad
[19:41] <perlsyntax> yes i do
[19:42] <delici0us> thanks
[19:42] <aretrfre34> how to share wan connection i followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing did't help they ping each other but in client if ping 'google.com bad address' why???
[19:42] <loopidity> instead of going inside the appropriate folder and running "make" , is it possible to run make with the destination folder name?
[19:42] <perlsyntax> i forgot how to sign up the driver that all.
[19:42] <perlsyntax> for mwave modem driver.
[19:43] <perlsyntax> ?
[19:43] <sizzlefire> how do i go about stopping all applications using sound devices and reloading all ALSA sound modules?
[19:44] <SlidingHorn> !enter | perlsyntax
[19:44] <perlsyntax> i was asking how do i setup mwave driver it not loading so i think i forgot to setup the driver.
[19:44] <thune3> sizzlefire: this *should* do it: sudo alsa force-reload
[19:44] <RRRRRRRRRR> how do i update-grub in live CD?
[19:45] <Flomaster> I am having trouble setting up a static IP address on my computer
[19:45] <RRRRRRRRRR> i get "error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)"
[19:45] <sizzlefire> thune3: I get lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system when attempting to do that
[19:45] <perlsyntax> modprobe mwave i get a error wen i try that commad
[19:45] <aretrfre34> how to share wan connection i followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing did't help they ping each other but in client if ping 'google.com bad address' why???
[19:45] <vu1kan> !patience | aretrfre34
[19:46] <perlsyntax> this the error i get
[19:46] <aretrfre34> vu1kan:thanks for cheering up :)
[19:46] <perlsyntax> FATAL: Error inserting mwave (/lib/modules/2.6.33.5-124.fc13.i686/kernel/drivers/char/mwave/mwave.ko): Input/output error
[19:46] <perlsyntax> odd i think
[19:47] <perlsyntax> anyone.
[19:47] <perlsyntax> :)
[19:48] <perlsyntax> Guest7382,any ideas?
[19:48] <thune3> sizzlefire: if it had Unloading Alsa and Loading Alsa lines, then it worked. I get that warning too
[19:48] <perlsyntax> hello
[19:48] <SlidingHorn> perl -- please stop using "Enter" as punctuation.  Post your question on one line & *wait for an answer* -- If someone has a solution, they will respond, if not, you can check the forums or http://help.ubuntu.com in the meantime
[19:48] <perlsyntax> then someone help me then tht not hard i think.
[19:49] <ikonia> perlsyntax: if someone knows the answer - they can ask
[19:49] <sizzlefire> thune3: it did, however it says there are no sound driver modules to load....any idea how to fix that?
[19:49] <ikonia> perlsyntax: you're using fedora
[19:49] <perlsyntax> no
[19:49] <ikonia> perlsyntax: then why is it trying to install into a fedora kernel, are you using alien ?
[19:50] <ikonia> perlsyntax: you ARE using fedora
[19:50] <ikonia> do not lie
[19:50] <perlsyntax> i think i look a men
[19:50] <tarun> ubuntu rocks!!!
[19:50] <perlsyntax> lol
[19:50] <ikonia> perlsyntax: I'll ask this one more time, are you using fedora or ubuntu
[19:50] <jthunder> how can I force the nvidia drivers to use the HDMI display as the primary?
[19:50] <ikonia> I thought so
[19:50] <jthunder> the screen is initialized but only as the secondard
[19:51] <jthunder> secondary
[19:51] <D3RGPS31> I have acpi enabled; every other time i restart, freeze mid startup
[19:52] <thune3> sizzlefire: that's odd, you had alsa running ok before?
[19:52] <jthunder> I am booting with just the HDMI display connected
[19:52] <jthunder> doesn't seem to make a difference
[19:52] <sizzlefire> it was working when I first installed ubuntu, then I installed vmware and hit the mute button on it once, and when i restarted it would no longer work
[19:54] <sizzlefire> thune right now im pretty sure I made it a lot worse, i might just be better off reinstalling ubuntu....problem is I really dont wanna do that
[19:55] <mikubuntu> can someone suggest a method or application to detect all hardware on a system?  i couldn't find anything in the software center exactly
[19:55] <vu1kan> mikubuntu: hardinfo
[19:55] <vu1kan> !info hardinfo
[19:56] <mikubuntu> vu1kan: install thru synaptic?
[19:56] <__Adam__> Hello I have an odd problem 9.10 is seems to be sending all traffic to the default router
[19:56] <Pirate_Hunter>  /j #gimp
[19:56] <Pirate_Hunter> oops
[19:57] <__Adam__> including local, nothing on the local network can see it, and it cant see the local network
[19:57] <_2> is there a hotkey that one can use at boot time.
[19:57] <vu1kan> mikubuntu: yeah, or you can sudo apt-get install hardinfo
[19:57] <__Adam__> but anything via the gateway works
[19:58] <D3RGPS31> I have acpi enabled; every other restart i freeze in mid startup, any other suggestions other than to disable acpi?
[19:58] <kiamo> hi, for some reason when I try to webcam via skype the call window becomes semi-transparent and I cannot see the video.  This didn't used to happen.  Not sure what is causing it.  I have tried disabling desktop effects, but same problem.  Does anyone have any ideas?
[19:58] <_2> ?
[19:58] <vu1kan> _2 a hotkey that one can use at boot time to do what?
[19:58] <mikubuntu> vu1kan: thx, will do
[19:59] <_2> vu1kan to keep it from changing the vga before it gets to the boot menu ?
[20:00] <_2> vu1kan it's locking up the system, before it gets to any boot options menu.    can't boot
[20:00] <SeySayux> Hi, I tried to upload a few packages to my PPA. dput showed no errors. So why doesn't launchpad show that there are packages in my repo? https://launchpad.net/~seysayux/+archive/libsylph (PS I think it's strange that it didn't ask me for a password while uploading)
[20:01] <vu1kan> _2 i have no idea, i was just trying to get you to clarify;maybe one of the guru knows?
[20:01] <suicidepills> can someone tell me what the $IPC samba share is for?
[20:01] <_2> vu1kan  there are no guru's here
[20:01] <Espen-_-> I killed my sudoers file...
[20:01] <crdlb> SeySayux: ask in #launchpad
[20:01] <Espen-_-> Any advice?
[20:01] <SeySayux> crdlb: okay, thanks
[20:01] <tdp> Who is sudo?
[20:02] <Espen-_-> I am
[20:02] <_2> tdp    man sudo
[20:02] <Espen-_-> I get a parse error when I try to sudo now
[20:02] <icedtea> how do you change where the window manager buttons are? For instance, the maximize, minimize, and close buttons are now all on the right in this new Ubuntu
[20:02] <kiamo> sudo is Super User
[20:02] <kiamo> ie: root
[20:02] <tdp> who is man sudo?
[20:02] <ikonia> Espen-_-: you'll need to fix your sudo setup from either the livecd, or rescue shell from grub
[20:02] <_2> kiamo actually   sudo is root   i.e. hopefully superuser...
[20:02] <SeySayux> tdp: it's a terminal command
[20:03] <Espen-_-> ikonia: Thanks, that was what I was afraid of
[20:03] <kiamo> _2, haha true
[20:03] <vu1kan> icedtea there's a howto on the web...gimme a min to find the url...
[20:03] <_2> anyone know about boot issues   ?
[20:03] <guntbert> Espen-_-: see http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[20:04] <__Adam__> Hello I have an odd problem 9.10 is seems to be sending all traffic to the default router
[20:04] <__Adam__> including local, nothing on the local network can see it, and it cant see the local network
[20:04] <__Adam__> but anything via the gateway works
[20:04] <uday> hi would someone know why i might get stuck at a black screen even after i upgrade to ubunut9.1?
[20:04] <icedtea> vulkan: thanks, I'm looking too
[20:04] <_2> more specificly  anyone know about boot issues with the install cd's   ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso  ?
[20:04] <SlidingHorn> icedtea, to move them to the right, just change the theme...to bring them back to the left: Alt+F2, gconf-editor, apps>metacity>general, find button_layout and change value to minimize,maximize,close:menu
[20:05] <_2> uday probably same reason i can't boot the install cd's of 10.4     but i don't know what's causing it.
[20:05] <icedtea> SlidingHorn: thanks, thats what I was looking for :) I'll buy a you a pop from a vending machine
[20:06] <ikonia> __Adam__: pastebin netstat -rn please
[20:06] <guntbert> _2: are you sure that the iso images that you used were ok?
[20:06] <_2> guntbert yep
[20:06] <gormux> plop all
[20:06] <ikonia> gormux: ?
[20:07] <_2> guntbert passed md5   ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso   and   ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[20:07] <tarun> hi...i have a problem with my Ubuntu 10.04....sometimes it duplicates the icons on the panel....anybody knows how to fix it..???
[20:07] <_2> guntbert burned without issue too.
[20:07] <icedtea> SlidingHorn: is that a bug in the new ubuntu, or a feature? ;)
[20:07] <__Adam__> hang on ikonia
[20:07] <guntbert> _2: is your computer able to boot from any CD?
[20:08] <guntbert> !controls | icedtea
[20:08] <_2> guntbert yep even earlier ubuntu install cd's
[20:08] <aretrfre34> how to share wan connection i followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing did't help they ping each other but in client if ping 'google.com bad address' why???
[20:08] <SlidingHorn> icedtea, it's a new feature...in meerkat, they'll be putting some extra features on the right side...dont know yet
[20:08] <guntbert> _2: then I don't know - sorry
[20:08] <_2> guntbert it's hanging hard lockup before the boot menu on the install disk
[20:08] <_2> guntbert heh.   me too.
[20:09] <__Adam__> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/G2s6AQ2w
[20:09] <ramuday> Hi all i upgraded to ubuntu 9.1 but get a black screen any thoughts?
[20:09] <ikonia> __Adam__: yup, that routing table will send everything down the default router
[20:10] <_2> ramuday uhh yeah i think it's 9.10 not 9.1    year.month versioning system
[20:10] <__Adam__> ikonia, nice... how do i get local to work again :)
[20:11] <crankharder> why is there a /etc/rsyslog.conf and no /etc/syslog.conf?
[20:11] <ikonia> __Adam__: add a route for the  http://pastebin.com/G2s6AQ2w
[20:11] <ikonia> oops
[20:11] <ramuday> yes it was 9.10 but i now cant login i get roo@ something
[20:11] <ikonia> __Adam__: add a route for the 192.168.55.0 to your local ip address eg: 192.168.55.25
[20:11] <__Adam__> ikonia, add one for every host on the internal network!?
[20:12] <ikonia> no
[20:12] <ikonia> __Adam__: add a route for the 192.168.55.0 network (key is network) with the destination your card ip address
[20:12] <ikonia> so that anything on 192.168.55.0 goes out of our card, anything else goes out of 0.0.0.0 which is set to your router
[20:13] <__Adam__> so route 192.168.55.0 to 192.186.55.67 (nic ip)
[20:13] <ramuday> i upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 :(
[20:13] <_2> 192.168.55.*   192.168.55.0  192.168.55.0/32
[20:14] <__Adam__> what is the command to add this route?
[20:14] <_2> ramuday at the root@something prompt type in   apt-get install dist-upgrade      or   apt-get install -f     and see if it helps   sounds like an error in the upgrade process to me
[20:15] <ikonia> __Adam__: route add
[20:15] <__Adam__> ty
[20:15] <_2> __Adam__ sudo route add 'blah'
[20:15] <_2> sorry ikonia didn't mean to butt in
[20:15] <ramuday> @ 2 Yes i think the MBR could not get updated
[20:15] <ramuday> when i do the release version it shows 9.1
[20:15] <__Adam__> ty i will try
[20:17] <gbluntzer> Is this the correct channel to ask questions about ubuntu 10 and color depth to 32bit(24)
[20:17] <oCean_> __Adam__: Assuming your local network uses a 255.255.255.0 netmask, the command would be route add -net 192.168.55.0/24 gw 192.168.55.67
[20:17] <__Adam__> disnt work
[20:17] <__Adam__> unknown host
[20:17] <__Adam__> oh
[20:17] <__Adam__> ty
[20:18] <__Adam__> that has added the route
[20:18] <vu1kan> !ask | gbluntzer
[20:18] <_2> __Adam__ just a note, while trying to work out a routing issue,  'route add *'    and 'route del *'   are your friends.    (inturpret * please)
[20:18] <Ego_Proctor> oCean_, gw in the above line stands for gateway yes?
[20:18] <__Adam__> the host still cant be pingged internaly
[20:18] <oCean_> Ego_Proctor: indeed
[20:19] <__Adam__> or http
[20:19] <__Adam__> or https
[20:19] <oCean_> __Adam__: what do you mean 'internally" ?
[20:19] <__Adam__> but can be from the outside world
[20:19] <__Adam__> from the same subnet = no access
[20:19] <gbluntzer> How do I increase the color depth of my desktop  to 32bit(24)  Ubuntu : Nvidia drivers
[20:19] <__Adam__> but you can see it from the internet www.witwicki.co.uk
[20:19] <Ego_Proctor> oCean, I should probably get used to using IP tables, interface commands, and such, take my CCNA/NP knowledge and put it to use getting linux to act as a router...
[20:20] <oCean_> __Adam__: wait
[20:20] <__Adam__> i upgraded fron 9.04 to 9.10
[20:20] <oCean_> __Adam__: one step at a time. Can you PING the ip-address from other machines on the same network?
[20:20] <__Adam__> no
[20:21] <ramuday> when i do  cat /etc/issue i get the value as ubuntu 9.10 \n\l
[20:21] <cesc> which program do you most use to read pdf's on ubuntu?
[20:21] <ramuday> but i guess that volume is not mounted ?
[20:21] <oCean_> __Adam__: no ping reply? or other error
[20:21] <__Adam__> Destination Host Unreachable
[20:22] <oCean_> __Adam__: can you ping from the upgraded machine other hosts on the same subnet?
[20:22] <__Adam__> nope
[20:22] <__Adam__> but the upgraded machine can ping google
[20:22] <Guest7382> ask a question or !qotd for quote of the day.
[20:22] <ikonia> __Adam__: post netstat -rn again now that you have added the route
[20:22] <LjL> !qotd
[20:22] <ikonia> Guest7382: there is no function of !quote of the day
[20:23] <Guest7382> Quote of the Day Free support is like free software. it never works
[20:23] <ikonia> Guest7382: it's not in our bot, so don't tell people to do it
[20:23] <LjL> Guest7382: ok, there probably isn't a specific rule about *pretending* to be a bot... but it's still kind of unwelcome
[20:23] <ramuday> apt-get install -f returns and error W:Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/lib/dpkg/lock
[20:24] <LjL> Guest7382: have you tried #ubuntu-offtopic? that's where we are silly and have fun
[20:24] <__Adam__> http://pastebin.com/2A0MBfjR
[20:24] <icedtea> gbluntzer: do you mean how do you update to the proprietary nvidia drivers? or just how to change the color depth?
[20:24] <ikonia> __Adam__: you have 2 conflicting routes, remove the 55.0 0.0.0.0 route
[20:25] <_2> ok.  i found that hitting ^C before and durring the splash screen that loads prior to the boot options menu.   allows my laptop to actually boot to the boot menu.    but i hung when i tried to boot.   even with all the acpioff stuff
[20:25] <DexterF> hi
[20:25] <_2> so there is something really screwy with the 10.4 install cd's
[20:25] <__Adam__> command please?
[20:26] <Ego_Proctor> _2 you using 10.04?
[20:26] <ikonia> route delete
[20:26] <_2> Ego_Proctor that's what i said
[20:26] <DexterF> got 2 identical monitors and an nvidia gf9500 card with two heads. I want the same picture on both monitors. possible? if: how? (clsd src driver)
[20:26] <__Adam__> route delete what
[20:26] <oCean_> __Adam__: route del -net 192.168.55.0/23 gw 0.0.0.0
[20:26] <_2> errr             ^ /24
[20:26] <Ego_Proctor> DexterF you want the monitors to mirror each other?
[20:27] <__Adam__> ty
[20:27] <oCean_> __Adam__: if you look at both commands, you may grasp the syntax of the command :)
[20:27] <ramuday> _2 when i did that apt-get install -f i got the follwing error ---- w not using locking for read only lock file var lib dpkg lock
[20:27] <DexterF> Ego_Proctor: well, not literally ;) but yes
[20:27] <__Adam__> yes i hav used it in windows
[20:27] <Ego_Proctor> DexterF sudo nvidia-settings and choose your options there.
[20:27] <DexterF> Ego_Proctor: that's.. too easy :)
[20:27] <oCean_> __Adam__: sorry, it is not /23 but /24 in your case
[20:27] <__Adam__> done :)
[20:27] <_2> ramuday ok your root file system is mounted readonly.   probably a file system checking error.
[20:27] <Ego_Proctor> DexterF then have fun setting up the xorg.conf manually
[20:27] <Kurogane> If i have installed ubunto 10.04 RC how i can upgrade to retail via console?
[20:28] <__Adam__> adam@adam-laptop:~$ ping 192.168.55.67
[20:28] <__Adam__> PING 192.168.55.67 (192.168.55.67) 56(84) bytes of data.
[20:28] <__Adam__> From 192.168.55.51 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
[20:28] <DexterF> Ego_Proctor: now we're talking ;)
[20:28] <_2> ramuday someont here can help with that.
[20:28] <m1r> hello
[20:28] <brown12> I have a problem w a laptop. The laptop has been trying to wake itself from sleep to connect wifi. Shouldn't be doing that. Searching the forums, I have mostly found problems where "wireless won't connect after sleep," but nothing like "wireless wakes laptop from sleep."
[20:28] <Guest7382> Kurogane, synaptic
[20:28] <brown12> Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
[20:28] <Uboy> Hi EveryBody
[20:28] <Linux> I have ubuntu linux and windows 7 installed on my computer how do i get rid of windows 7?
[20:28] <Uboy> Hi sebsebseb
[20:28] <ramuday> _2 thanks not sure what i must do let me try a google
[20:28] <Guest7382> Linux, y
[20:28] <icedtea> DexterF: what he said but there should be an icon for nvidia settings in System->Administration->NVidia X Server Settings
[20:28] <Kurogane> Guest7382: how?
[20:28] <Ego_Proctor> DexterF good luck finding anyone that will be able or willing to help with that...
[20:29] <__Adam__> last time i update linux!
[20:29] <Guest7382> Kurogane, do you have update manager
[20:29] <Linux> because windows is gay!
[20:29] <ikonia> Linux: stop that now
[20:29] <Linux> stop what
[20:29] <icedtea> lol
[20:29] <Ego_Proctor> __Adam__ have you checked the IP address of the target machine?  Is the interface up?
[20:29] <ikonia> Linux: check your pm's
[20:29] <Uboy> hi sebsebseb
[20:29] <IdleOne> Linux: pop in a live cd use gparted to format the windows partition
[20:29] <Kurogane> Guest7382: but i don't install X
[20:29] <Kurogane> don't want*
[20:30] <__Adam__> yes it can access the internet, juts nothing internal
[20:30] <bodzilla> Linux pejoratives are not cool
[20:30] <warri> i just installed UNR on my Acer AspireOne D260, however my battery will not charge
[20:30] <warri> anyone have any ideas?
[20:30] <Guest7382> brown12, turn off wireless
[20:30] <oCean_> __Adam__: You could try a "/sbin/ip route flush cache", but don't expect to much. If you want to debug further, install "tcpdump" then we can see how traffic is travelling
[20:30] <_2> ramuday you might start with   fsck `mount | grep ' / ' | grep dev | cut -d' ' -f1`
[20:30] <__Adam__> ok
[20:30] <Ego_Proctor> __Adam__, I take it that it worked before you upgraded?
[20:30] <_2> i have to run.
[20:31] <__Adam__> yes it all worked
[20:31] <SlidingHorn> I don't believe that Windows prefers the company of other same-sex OS -- therefor it is not "gay" -- if you are displeased with Windows, feel free to say so -- elsewhere.
[20:31] <brown12> Guest7382, that would certainly work. Are there any settings related to wireless that I could have configured wrong?
[20:31] <__Adam__> i could access http and https internally
[20:31] <brown12> I'd prefer not to have to disable/enable on every standby/resume.
[20:31] <__Adam__> still unreachable
[20:31] <__Adam__> you can access it by browsing www.witwicki.co.uk
[20:31] <__Adam__> this is madness!
[20:32] <oCean_> __Adam__: Please don't flood, ease up on the enter key. Try "sudo apt-get install tcpdump"
[20:32] <warri> I take it no one has any ideas on how to get UNR to charge my battery.
[20:33] <Ego_Proctor> it almost sounds like __Adam__'s issue is with the upgraded machine and not the others.  Like it doesn't know how route to the LAN, but if they are all on a switched network that shouldn't matter.
[20:33] <__Adam__> cant do that oCean_ not yet anyway
[20:33] <__Adam__> started update from 9.10 to 10.04
[20:33] <__Adam__> based on previous advice here
[20:34] <RRRRRRRRRR> grub2 freezes my computer; i am forced to downgrade to grub1; anyone know why?
[20:34] <oCean_> __Adam__: wait, tcpdump might be default. Do you have /usr/sbin/tcpdump ?
[20:34] <Guest7382> helpbuntu is offline
[20:34] <brown12> Guest7382--thanks again, I'll try to find a forum to post the problem to.
[20:34] <__Adam__> yes i go oCean_  :)
[20:34] <__Adam__> um do
[20:35] <Guest7382> brown12, np
[20:35] <warri> I just installed 10.04 Netbook Remix onto my BrandNew AcerAspire One d260 and for some reason my battery wont charge, i tried running the hardware drivers but none were found.
[20:35] <oCean_> __Adam__: ok. Do "sudo tcpdump -i wlan0 icmp"
[20:35] <icedtea> whats the ubuntu channel for offtopic chat?
[20:35] <vu1kan> icedtea: #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:35] <SlidingHorn> icedtea #ubuntu-offtopicd
[20:35] <icedtea> doh!
[20:35] <SlidingHorn> -d
[20:35] <__Adam__> its listening oCean_
[20:36] <vu1kan> (we all have facepalm moments)
[20:36] <oCean_> __Adam__: great, now ping it, from one of the machines on the local subnet, see if a requests is coming in
[20:36] <daer> anyone know whats wrong when i cant run spotify under wine?
[20:36] <icehawk78> I've got a usb drive with folders that, for some reason, won't respond to sudo chown (everything is currently owned by root). And idea how to fix that or figure out why?
[20:37] <__Adam__> not from laptop > host
[20:37] <__Adam__> they are going out
[20:37] <__Adam__> not inbound, but it is loging an outbound
[20:37] <Ego_Proctor> __Adam__, outbound ICMP?
[20:37] <codebrainz> hi.  any way to get just a regular volume icon without "indicator-applet"?
[20:38] <oCean_> __Adam__: your incoming request is probably on eth0 ??
[20:38] <oCean_> __Adam__: is your eth0 configured to be in local subnet?
[20:38] <__Adam__> no its a wifi connection
[20:38] <oCean_> __Adam__: you say there is no incoming traffic on wlan0, but you see outbound (ICMP reply) traffic?
[20:38] <__Adam__> yes oCean_
[20:38] <oCean_> __Adam__: then my guess is, there is inbound traffic on eth0
[20:39] <Guest7382> helpbuntu is online
[20:39] <oCean_> __Adam__: so, break off the tcpdump on wlan0 and start tcpdump -i eth0 icmp
[20:39] <JULinuxUser> how do I edit the Grub2?
[20:39] <JULinuxUser> I need to get it to start Windows XP by default
[20:39] <__Adam__> nothing on eth0  (it is not connected)
[20:39] <Guest7382> ask a question or say qotd for quote of the day.
[20:39] <__Adam__> tcpdump is showing nothing
[20:39] <oCean_> !ot | Guest7382
[20:39] <vu1kan> codebrainz: indicator-sound in the repos
[20:39] <zealiod> is it safe to remove all the squdi spool directories in /var/spool/squid3
[20:40] <JULinuxUser> Hey anyone out there help me with the GRUB?
[20:40] <oCean_> __Adam__: well, your outound icmp you see on wlan0 should originate from somewhere, right?
[20:40] <oCean_> *outbound
[20:40] <kroson> hi. Does anybody use PlayonLinux?
[20:40] <daer> yea
[20:40] <codebrainz> vulkan, any way without using the miscolored indicator thing that snatches up my notification icons?
[20:41] <__Adam__> oCean_, i send a ping from cacti from the affected host, its i see the request then i see the reply
[20:41] <codebrainz> JULinuxUser, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[20:41] <kroson> daer: do you use it?
[20:41] <oCean_> __Adam__: what?
[20:41] <kroson> Does anybody use PlayonLinux?
[20:42] <__Adam__> oCean_, I do not see the ping origanting from my laptop > affected host
[20:42] <dkulchenko> Hi all! My Lucid netbook has been consistently hard-locking at random intervals. Even if I set Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to terminate X, nothing happens. It seems the keyboard and mouse are completely disabled. If sound is playing when it locks, it falls into a 2-second loop. I have to press and hold the power button to get out. kern.log shows nothing interesting. How can I troubleshoot this?
[20:42] <Ego_Proctor> kroson you might also try #linux
[20:42] <kroson> Ego_Proctor: tks XD
[20:42] <__Adam__> local subnet isnt working, but the affected host is fine accessing anything after the router (gw
[20:43] <arand> JULinuxUser: You use GRUB_DEFAULT="Exact name of entry" to set an order-independent default e.g. GRUB_DEFAULT="Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)"
[20:43] <Ego_Proctor> oCean_, that sounds like an ACL to me...  Unless it is an issue with the WiFi connection, like he is using a different access point than the lap top and the network core is not relaying the messages....
[20:43] <arand> Aw, bummer...
[20:44] <__Adam__> its the same AP
[20:44] <__Adam__> i only have one
[20:44] <__Adam__> it worked before i upgraded
[20:45] <oCean_> __Adam__: let me recap: if you start tcpdump on wlan0 on the server, and then ping this server, you DON't see "ICMP echo request" but you DO see an "ICMP echo reply"
[20:46] <ManDay> I'm trying to install from the alternate (no GUI) installer from a thumb drive on a netbook but the installer coerces me to select/load a CD-Rom module! How can I tell it to use the thumbdrive?!
[20:46] <__Adam__> sort of
[20:46] <Ego_Proctor> __Adam__, can you pastebin the tcpdump?
[20:46] <oCean_> __Adam__: haha, sort of is not possible with ICMP. There's request and reply
[20:46] <__Adam__> start tcpdump on wlan0 on the server, and then ping this server, you DON't see "ICMP echo request" but you DO see an "ICMP echo reply"
[20:47] <__Adam__> correct
[20:47] <mxe5> What is best version of Java to install for Frostwire to work?
[20:47] <__Adam__> and when the server pings a remote host say google i do see a reply
[20:47] <mxe5> Have partner repo checked.
[20:47] <andrei_> Hi again. Problem. I reinstalled ubuntu doing a clean install on a hard drive. But the guru shows 2 difrent 10.04 installed. The first is not connecting to the network and the second has faulty display(one that im running now)
[20:48] <om26er> ManDay, afaik alternate installer does not behave well with usb boots
[20:48] <__Adam__> that still didnt make sense,  laptop pings host, host tcpdump dosnt see the request
[20:48] <oCean_> __Adam__: as Ego_Proctor asked, can you show us the tcpdump output? (pastebin?)
[20:48] <oCean_> __Adam__: wait
[20:48] <__Adam__> host pings google, tcpdump can see request and reply
[20:48] <gothenburg> :p
[20:48] <oCean_> __Adam__: nvm, just show us the tcpdump when pinged from local net
[20:49] <ubuntu> Hi I just installed 10.04, and my pc doesnt boot on the hd. I created a /boot partition at the beginning (sda1), and it is flagged as bootable if I check with fdisk or gparted. Grub infos seem ok. And I tried the disk as 1st and 2nd startup device in Bios. Has anyone a suggestion on what to check ?
[20:49] <__Adam__> the output is blank oCean_ .....
[20:49] <ManDay> om26er, thanks for the reply
[20:49] <oCean_> __Adam__: no, you said that you saw "ICMP echo reply"
[20:49] <ManDay> I tried to point it to /dev/sdb as my "Cddrive" which is the stick but it still failed
[20:50] <__Adam__> when the host pinged a remote host on the internet it saw a reply
[20:50] <Ego_Proctor> __Adam__ instead of doing a tcpdump | pastebin, copy and paste the output manually and drop it in the pastebin website...
[20:50] <BluesKaj> mxe5, frostwire is clunky at best with even the latest java versions
[20:50] <vu1kan> codebrainz: all i could find is asmix, there might be one but i'm tired of looking through synaptic
[20:51] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Could you pastebin the output from this script: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/ ?
[20:51] <ubuntu> th cd boots ok, the hd shows at startup, but then seems to be ignored as startup device..
[20:51] <__Adam__> http://pastebin.com/XNnhJ0xh
[20:51] <ubuntu> ok
[20:51] <brutus> hi, I'm not getting any audio using VLC, but other players work fine...what's the problem?
[20:51] <codebrainz> vu1kan, ok thanks for looking, I think I'll just code one in python
[20:52] <c3l> how can I set a different color on my input to the terminal, so that I easier can separate commands from output when reading in the terminal?
[20:52] <c3l> talking about colorizing what I type, not \u \h \w
[20:52] <oCean_> __Adam__: ok, so: there is NO sign of incoming request whatsoever when you ping the server from other machine on local net
[20:52] <arand> ManDay: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Known%20Issues
[20:52] <__Adam__> correct
[20:52] <oCean_> __Adam__: in that case, it's not the server
[20:52] <arand> ManDay: "If you get "Incorrect CD-ROM detected" error on detection stage, reboot, press F6 and then ESC to go to manual boot line editing, and add the option 'cdrom-detect/try-usb=true'. On Ubuntu 9.10 server edition the install menu will be shown right after reboot. Chose "Help" and then press F6. At the boot prompt type "install cdrom-detect/try-usb=true" and hit enter. "
[20:52] <oCean_> __Adam__: the ICMP traffic is dropped somewhere along the route
[20:53] <mduffor> Could someone help me diagnose a network problem?  I tried installing vpnc and it hosed my ethernet connection.  The eth0 interface is connected to my router (I can access the router setup page via the IP number), but my machine can't look up any URL names and translate them to the IP address.
[20:53] <__Adam__> from all my internal hosts, ?
[20:53] <Ego_Proctor> __Adam__, what kind of network do you have?
[20:53] <__Adam__> after an upgrade
[20:53] <__Adam__> 100 ethernet, with wifi
[20:53] <Ego_Proctor> __Adam__, I mean hardware wise, sorry
[20:53] <IceChat_7_> Xchat has a bug in listing rooms it  freezes on a big list
[20:54] <Black_Prince> __Adam__ what is in your /etc/resolv.conf file?
[20:54] <BluesKaj> c3l, check settings/current profile /appearance in the terminal
[20:54] <vu1kan> codebrainz: that's not to say that there isn't one...there may be, i just couldn't find it
[20:54] <__Adam__> netgear router DG834g
[20:54] <pgeyleg> can anyone help me with grub?
[20:54] <pgeyleg> i reinstalled windows and my linux boot menu is gone
[20:54] <Black_Prince> pgeyleg what is your problem
[20:55] <oCean_> __Adam__: you have no incoming request on your interface. So, the traffic does not even reach one of your interfaces
[20:55] <Ego_Proctor> __Adam__, and all other hosts can ping each other?
[20:55] <SlidingHorn> IceChat_7_, not a bug...takes a long time to pull large lists...either way though, that's probably more a topic for #xchat
[20:55] <__Adam__> YES
[20:55] <codebrainz> vu1kan, me either, it seems to missing altogether from the repos.  also none of my pidgin/transmission/xchat icons show in the notification area applet. bummer
[20:55] <__Adam__> i can ping the other desktop from my laptop
[20:55] <pgeyleg> Black_Prince: i booted from live cd ubuntu 10.4
[20:55] <c3l> BluesKaj: I want to make an terminal indepentend setting. eg editing the .bashrc file, but I can only find how to colorize \u@\h:\w\$ input is not colorized, and if I set some ansii color code at the end of that line it will stick for the output too
[20:55] <duffydack> good ols netgear..   I have a dg834gt.  Needs rebooting now n then
[20:55] <Black_Prince> pgeyleg https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[20:56] <Ego_Proctor> oCean_, it sounds like the server is blocking traffic, not that it is being lost, unless somehow that server is on a different subnet or the mask is wrong or something...
[20:56] <afroman> hello. I can't install vlc 1.1.0. I tried different ppa.
[20:56] <pgeyleg> and then i did this
[20:56] <SlidingHorn> !grub > pgeyleg
[20:56] <duffydack> __Adam__,  reboot the router, netgears need it now and then.... I pulled my hair out trying to get my server on port 80 to take requests...then I rebooted it.
[20:56] <__Adam__> yes the server is quite happy, its responding on 80
[20:57] <duffydack> I guess they dont like being up for days on end
[20:57] <__Adam__> sorry server=router
[20:57] <Black_Prince> and you didn't sucedeed?
[20:57] <oCean_> Ego_Proctor: tcpdump would show incoming packets
[20:57] <SlidingHorn> !details | afroman
[20:57] <RRRRRRRRRR> would anyone know what would cause grub2 to freeze on an old computer?
[20:57] <__Adam__> i will brb, while the router resets
[20:57] <duffydack> is it latest firmware __Adam__
[20:58] <__Adam__> even tho it is routing outside traffice to this host
[20:58] <Uboy> Farsi zaboon hast?
[20:58] <__Adam__> yes it is duffydack
[20:58] <guntbert> !ir | Uboy
[20:58] <duffydack> __Adam__, thats another thing, latest aint always best for netgears.  I cant delete any firewall rules using latest f/w
[20:58] <Uboy> hi gunbert
[20:59] <Uboy> our channel is silent!
[20:59] <duffydack> __Adam__, cheap and cheerful.
[20:59] <afroman> ubottu: I have Ubuntu 9.10. I tried to install vlc 1.1.0 throu apt-get. I added a few ppa that I found on the internet but I can't get vlc newer than 1.0.3. Am I missing something?
[20:59] <__Adam__> it was working fine, untill i updated from 9.04 to 9.10!
[20:59] <Uboy> gunbert did u see sebsebseb nearbys?
[20:59] <guntbert> Uboy: you are welcome here, but please speak english
[20:59] <guntbert> !tab | Uboy
[20:59] <Uboy> gunbert ok. do u remember me?
[21:00] <ubuntu> (on a live-cd now but mounted the disk)
[21:00] <duffydack> __Adam__, ah well, upgrades are a pita.  Reboot it anyway.
[21:00] <rafael> need help making my Lynksis wireless router to work with unbuntu
[21:00] <paulo> I can not disable ssh startup at boot with update-rc.d-f remove ssh, ubuntu 10.04
[21:00] <afroman> hello. I have Ubuntu 9.10. I tried to install vlc 1.1.0 throu apt-get. I added a few ppa that I found on the internet but I can't get vlc newer than 1.0.3. Am I missing something?
[21:00] <rafael> HELP NEEDED
[21:01] <rafael> WIRELESS ROUTER...
[21:01] <ubuntu> Hi I just installed 10.04, and my pc doesnt boot on the hd. I created a /boot partition at the beginning (sda1), and it is flagged as bootable if I check with fdisk or gparted. Grub infos seem ok. And I tried the disk as 1st and 2nd startup device in Bios. Has anyone a suggestion on what to check ?
[21:01] <oCean_> rafael: stop using CAPS
[21:01] <rafael> any help?
[21:01] <ubuntu> Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/UqsuDnYg
[21:01] <Uboy> rafael: which version u use/
[21:01] <guntbert> Uboy: no, should I? and please type my nick when you talk to me
[21:01] <rafael> latest one
[21:01] <oCean_> rafael: just decribe your issue/situation and give it detailed here in the channel. Try to keep it on one single line
[21:01] <rafael> 10.04lts
[21:01] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: What happens when you try to boot the drive?
[21:01] <Uboy> guntbert: ok dude
[21:02] <paulo> I can not disable ssh startup at boot with update-rc.d-f remove ssh, ubuntu 10.04
[21:02] <paulo> ?
[21:02] <devi> hi
[21:02]  * __Adam__ screams!!!!
[21:02] <devi> how can I download torrents on ubuntu?
[21:02] <ubuntu> nothing it just says there is not bootable device
[21:02] <rafael> i have a wireless card on my desktop....unbuntus recognises the wireless signal from my router but does not connect
[21:02] <duffydack> __Adam__, are you using broadcom wifi and free driver?
[21:02] <__Adam__> ok everyone, it was the god damned router!!!!!!
[21:02] <rafael> i enter everything right...but it does not connect
[21:02] <SlidingHorn> good lord, people...read the rules... *don't repeat every few minutes*  *dont use caps*  *don't use enter as punctuation*  *come out & just ask your question (on one line -- with full details)*
[21:02]  * SlidingHorn pulls hair out
[21:03] <duffydack> __Adam__, lolz...
[21:03]  * __Adam__ apologises 
[21:03] <__Adam__> cheers
[21:03] <Uboy> guntbert: yesterday at 11 - 14 PM , me, u, sebsebseb and... our talking about my problem! remember?
[21:03] <duffydack> __Adam__, thats how I felt when I tried everything to fix it, and it was the crap router all along
[21:03] <ubuntu> hd is master and cd drive slave on ide (ata133 disk). cd boots fine, hd recognized, but not seen as a bootable device
[21:03] <guntbert> Uboy: sorry, no
[21:03] <__Adam__> oooooo i want to throw it
[21:03] <paulo> I can not disable ssh startup at boot with update-rc.d -f remove ssh, ubuntu 10.04
[21:03] <Uboy> guntbert: ok dude np
[21:03] <devi> can any1 help me downloading torrents on ubuntu?
[21:03] <__Adam__> its only £300 for a cisco adsl router :D
[21:04] <oCean_> __Adam__: all's well ... etc
[21:04] <ocatacoo> where can I find my zone file
[21:04] <vu1kan> !info transmission
[21:04] <__Adam__> seems to be oCean_
[21:04] <duffydack> I  liked my old Billion powerline router.. had options other routers never heard of.
[21:04] <devi> and how come streaming doesn't work for sh*t sometimes?
[21:05] <__Adam__> now to reinstall openvpn!
[21:05] <SlidingHorn> !language | devi
[21:05] <__Adam__> removed it cos i thought it was messing up the IPtables
[21:05] <devi> Sorry!
[21:05] <ubuntu> I tried to set the hd as #1 or#2 (after cd) device for startup in Bios, but that didnt change anything
[21:05] <Uboy> sebsebseb r u here?
[21:05] <devi> just got a little frustrated...
[21:06] <oCean_> !pm | rafael
[21:06] <alan> Can somebody help me install the very lastest NVIDIA propietary driver? I installed nvidia-current on the repositories but apparently it does not support multiple monitors.
[21:06] <__Adam__> any cheers, i will not bother you any more
[21:06] <devi> so can anyone help me with torrent doewnloads please?
[21:06] <__Adam__> anyway :)
[21:07] <Uboy> devi: what u need?
[21:07] <vu1kan> devi: !info transmission
[21:07] <afroman> is it possible to install vlc 1.1.0 on Ubuntu 9.10 karmic?
[21:07] <SlidingHorn> devi you were already given an answer to look into
[21:07] <SlidingHorn> !transmission > devi
[21:07] <devi> aahh ok, sorry ; I'm new to this whole chat thing...
[21:07] <Jordan_U> vu1kan: The syntax is "!info transmission | nick"
[21:07] <Alan502> Can somebody help me install the very lastest NVIDIA propietary driver? I installed nvidia-current on the repositories but apparently it does not support multiple monitors.
[21:08] <SlidingHorn> !patience > Alan502
[21:08] <vu1kan> Jordan_U ya, still learning the syntax of irc...
[21:08] <Alan502> SlidingHorn, xD sorry i only repeated my message because i changed my nickname
[21:08] <Alan502> naywya
[21:08] <Alan502> anyway
[21:08] <Uboy> Alan502: download ENVY and use it!
[21:08] <duffydack> afroman, use a ppa
[21:08] <Alan502> Uboy, does envy install the lastest nvidia driver?
[21:09] <Alan502> Uboy, or does it install the one on the repositories?
[21:09] <Jordan_U> vu1kan: This is syntax specific to #ubuntu's ubottu just so you know, not really IRC in general (though other channels have similar bots)
[21:09] <afroman> duffydack: I added a few ppa but still no results
[21:09] <Jordan_U> !bot | vu1kan
[21:09] <Uboy> Alan502: yes ENVU is tool for searching, Finding and install the latest NVIDIA driver and apps
[21:09] <duffydack> afroman, https://launchpad.net/~c-korn/+archive/vlc  is all you need.  apt-get update and install vlc
[21:10] <afroman> duffydack: I have Ubuntu 9.10. I tried to install vlc 1.1.0 throu apt-get. I added a few ppa that I found on the internet but I can't get vlc newer than 1.0.3. Am I missing something?
[21:10] <vu1kan> Jordan_U: been looking through that...it's alot of info to absorb...ty tho
[21:10] <SlidingHorn> !repeat > afroman
[21:10] <duffydack> afroman, ahh... its not 1.1 for karmic
[21:10] <Alan502> Uboy, ah ok ok, i'll try it. Can envy use the driver i already downloaded? I don't want to download it again :P
[21:10] <Jordan_U> vu1kan: You're welcome.
[21:10] <duffydack> afroman, unless you compile it yourself then, no.
[21:11] <Alan502> Uboy, envyng is not on the repositories though?
[21:11] <Jordan_U> Alan502: Envy isn't compatable with 10.04 and it's author considers it obsoleted by System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[21:11] <cyban> Does Ubuntu support Synthetic Device Drivers?
[21:11] <Uboy> Alan502: if u have already any driver ENVY will Update it to latest, normally ENVY isn't in repositories
[21:11] <afroman> duffydack: thx. I wished I had known that 1 hour ago... ;)
[21:12] <Alan502> Jordan_U, Yeah, but the NVIDIA driver on the repositories does not support multiple monitors
[21:12] <Uboy> Alan502: No, it isn't in repositories, google it and find that
[21:12] <Jordan_U> Alan502: If you're having problems with multiple monitors specifically I doubt that the problem is that your nvidea driver is out of date.
[21:12] <Jordan_U> Alan502: Yes, it does.
[21:13] <Alan502> Jordan_U, the one on the repositories is 197 and the lastest NVIDIA has released is 256 :\
[21:13] <afroman> duffydack: is there any big differences bettween vlc 1.1. and 1.0?
[21:13] <Alan502> Jordan_U, hmmm weird, but i could install the nvidia driver in 9.10 without any problems, and i could configure multiple monitors correctly. I can't with 10.4 though
[21:14] <Jordan_U> Uboy: envy started out as an app outside the repos, then it became envy-ng and was officially supported and in the repos, now (with 10.04 onward) envy is not supported at all.
[21:14] <cyban> Does Ubuntu support Synthetic Device Drivers? Specifically for Hyper V?
[21:14] <Alan502> Uboy, ok thanks :) i'm afraid envyng could mess since, according to Jordan_U is not recommended
[21:14] <Alan502> *mess my system
[21:14] <codebrainz> vu1kan, i figured it out. remove package indicator-applet, add gnome-volume-control-applet to startup programs
[21:14] <ManDay_> om26er, thanks for the reply
[21:14] <ManDay_> I'm trying to install from the alternate (no GUI) installer from a thumb drive on a netbook but the installer coerces me to select/load a CD-Rom module! How can I tell it to use the thumbdrive?!
[21:14] <Jordan_U> Alan502: What happens when you try to configure multiple monitors.
[21:15] <Uboy> Jordan_U: ok dude, u write
[21:15] <Uboy> alan502: ok, I'm too
[21:15] <Uboy> Jordan_U: so how can I update my version to 256?
[21:15] <vu1kan> codebrainz: nifty...but that would remove my handy tray access for rhythmbox
[21:15] <Alan502> Jordan_U, i can run nvidia-settings and configure my second monitor to run as a separate x screen
[21:16] <codebrainz> vu1kan, i dunno, but all my icons now show up properly in the notification area
[21:16] <Jordan_U> ManDay_: Easiest thing to do is to use the netboot installer. Everything the installer needs is contained in the kernel + initrd so it doesn't need to look for any device at all (gets everything else from the net)
[21:16] <fuchyst> selam
[21:16] <Alan502> Jordan_U,  but the problem is that when i save x and reboot, the screen is there but its all black, and when i move my mouse to it it appears as an X-shaped cursor
[21:16] <Uboy> fuchyst what's your nation language?
[21:16] <ManDay_> Jordan_U, netboot?
[21:16] <ManDay_> do you mean the minimal insaller?
[21:16] <cyban> Does Ubuntu support Synthetic Device Drivers? Specifically for Hyper V?
[21:17] <SlidingHorn> !repeat > cyban
[21:17] <Jordan_U> ManDay_: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/
[21:17] <cyban> Sliding - I repeated after about 5 mins
[21:17] <Uboy> fuchyst: aleike selam
[21:17] <Jordan_U> ManDay_: No, the minimal installer still needs to read from the CD.
[21:17] <fuchyst> :)
[21:17] <fuchyst> turkish
[21:18] <fuchyst> hi all
[21:18] <Uboy> fuchyst, yakhchisun?
[21:18] <fuchyst> evet
[21:18] <fuchyst> :)
[21:18] <ManDay_> Jordan_U, netboot as in real netboot? thats absolutly out of the question
[21:18] <ManDay_> I've tried that a year back or so with gentoo and almost got insane
[21:18] <ManDay_> never really got it to work
[21:19] <Alan502> Jordan_U, do i make sense?
[21:19] <Jordan_U> ManDay_: No, the kernel and initrd for the netboot installer can be loaded from a disk with grub just like any other kernel + initrd.
[21:19] <Uboy> fuchyst Wellcome, but any way u must speak in English in this room
[21:19] <SlidingHorn> cyban: I know, but it's pretty busy so it's recommended to wait a while...here's what I could find that might help (2 links): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1156251   &   http://www.ditii.com/2010/05/30/methods-of-enlightenment-for-ubuntu-linux-on-hyper-v/
[21:19] <Alan502> :)
[21:19] <fuchyst> i know i want to know any turks here
[21:19] <fuchyst> i said
[21:19] <SlidingHorn> !turkish | fuchyst
[21:20] <ManDay_> Jordan_U, and the significant difference compared to the alternate install is what?
[21:20] <fuchyst> ok
[21:20] <Jordan_U> Alan502: Yes. What is the exact card you're using?
[21:20] <cyban> thanks <SlidingHorn>
[21:20] <cyban> Ill read up
[21:20] <SlidingHorn> cyban: sure thing
[21:20] <Alan502> Jordan_U, its 9400 GT
[21:21] <Rewt`> ///
[21:21] <guntbert> Rewt`:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:21] <Jordan_U> ManDay_: It doesn't try to look for a CD (or any other drive) to load things from. It's entirely self contained (Well, it needs an internet connection but I hope you understand what I mean)
[21:22] <devi> can anyone help me find a divx webplayer for ubuntu where I don't have to enter my adress?
[21:22] <ManDay_> Jordan_U, and you are sure that everything it needs is shipped with the vanilla initrd? im on a netbook with only wireless
[21:22] <devi> I have installed transmission bittorrent client, but now I can't find it anywhere?
[21:22] <tdp> what's ubuntu?
[21:22] <ManDay_> devi, alt + F2
[21:22] <ManDay_> transmission :)
[21:22] <SlidingHorn> devi: it should be in your menu under the Internet section
[21:23] <maypo> Anyone know how I can access channels in Xchat without crashing in freenode? CPU goes right to 100%
[21:23] <ManDay_> its hould be in "internet" in the menu tho devi
[21:23] <ManDay_> maypo, works fine here
[21:23] <Jordan_U> ManDay_: Yes. I've only ever used it with an ethernet connection but I assume it has wireless support also.
[21:23] <ManDay_> whats the prob?
[21:23] <SlidingHorn> maypo, might be better asked in #xchat ?   Not sure what the issue would be here
[21:23] <devi> Manday , Slidinghorn , thanks gys, it's there, but it wasn't a second ago I swear!
[21:23] <maypo> thanks; may have to do with running on eeepc :)
[21:24] <SlidingHorn> devi, lol sometimes it takes a min to update the menu
[21:24] <ManDay_> Jordan_U, fine, but before I try a question i should have asked in the first place: am i right to assume that the alternate/netboot installer offers more options on install and give me the chance to install a more lightweight ubuntu?
[21:24] <Jordan_U> ManDay_: Yes.
[21:24] <UnderSampled1> Hello
[21:24] <devi> Slidinghorn, good to know, patience is a virtue :)
[21:25] <devi> Slidinghorn ,  can u maybe help me with my divx problem as well?
[21:25] <SlidingHorn> !ubuntu | tdp
[21:25] <Dmitry> âû âñå ëîõè :)
[21:25] <Longhorn> gaah. i hate backing stuff up -_-
[21:25] <devi> Slidinghorn, was that for me?
[21:25] <tdp> why the name ubuntu?
[21:25] <ManDay_> Jordan_U, thanks
[21:25] <UnderSampled1> I took some photos, but when I moved the SD card to the computer, there was a filesystem error, and the files disappeared (allong with the folder they were in). what is the best way to recover these?
[21:25] <the_dark_warrio> Changing my status in the indicator applet will disconnect my Pidgin from the MSN account... Changing the status in Pidgin itself works. Any hints?
[21:25] <Jordan_U> ManDay_: You're welcome.
[21:25] <duffydack> Longhorn, grsync profiles ftw
[21:26] <devi> SlidingHorn aahh ok I guess not hehehe...
[21:26] <Jordan_U> Alan502: Do you have the Xorg.conf that you used with 9.10?
[21:26] <lnb_> after doing upgrade from 9.04 to 10.04 box won't boot
[21:26] <Longhorn> duffydack, :P. i really only need to backup some linux ISO's. i'm on windows right now about to install ubuntu.
[21:26] <Alan502> Jordan_U, no :( but it was generated by the nvidia tool
[21:27] <vu1kan> the_dark_warrio: are you signed in to msn via both pigin and the indicator app(empathy)?
[21:27] <SlidingHorn> tdp, see here for more info: http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu
[21:27] <duffydack> Longhorn, im in the middle of making a encrypted flash stick and usb external drive, and rsync`in what I need .. 2 backups = a backup
[21:27] <Jordan_U> lnb_: What does happen when you try to boot? Did you upgrade to 9.10 in between? (upgrading directly from 9.04 to 10.04 is not supported)
[21:27] <Longhorn> duffydack, awesome :D
 do you know anything about the emulated drivers, or just on the search - it says it supports the emulation on the synthetic driver but its slow, in my case I dont even see eth0
[21:27] <the_dark_warrio> vu1kan: I've removed empathy from my Ubuntu
[21:27] <SlidingHorn> devi, what's your divx issue?  wasn't sure by your original question
[21:27] <Longhorn> i THINK this is the last ISO. so i'll be able to install now. w00t.
[21:27] <Alan502> Jordan_U, brb mom calling for lunch xD
[21:27] <the_dark_warrio> vu1kan: with "sudo aptitude purge empathy"
[21:28] <SlidingHorn> cyban, no, I don't sorry :-\  that's just what I was able to pull up on Google
[21:28] <lnb_> jordan_u: syas init: ureadahead-other main process (841) tgerminated with status 4
[21:28] <devi> SlidingHorn: can anyone help me find a divx webplayer to download where I don't have to give them my adress?
[21:28] <lnb_> i can't remember at what 9.04 it was
 ah ok thanks, ya ive been digging a bit and keep seeing mixed reviews
[21:28] <vu1kan> the_dark_warrio: i was under the impression that the indicator app used empathy...but anyway, my guess would be that pidgin and the indicator are being recognized as seperate programs by msn's service
[21:28] <SlidingHorn> devi: you mean like a plugin?  not sure :(
[21:29] <Romzes> hi all. anybody chinese here?
[21:29] <the_dark_warrio> vu1kan: the problem is when my pc enters in screensaver, ubuntu changes the status to "Away" and my pidgin disconnects from msn too
[21:30] <devi> SlidingHorn: Yes, to watch streaming videos... all the websites ask me to update and then send me to various other sites that all want my adress.. I never had to do that before to get divx...
[21:30] <Jordan_U> !cn | Romzes
[21:30] <the_dark_warrio> vu1kan: this wasn't happing later on, so I guess Ubuntu was turning empathy on, thats why I removed it. But it is still happening
[21:30] <lnb_> at top of screen says: mount /proc/bus/usb does not exist
[21:30] <SlidingHorn> devi, I think this convo might delve into the "not allowed" so PM me for a sec
[21:30] <matcouto> Is there any nice/lightweight twitter client that runs under proxy?
[21:30] <UnderSampled1> anybody>
[21:30] <Romzes> thanks
[21:30] <UnderSampled1> ?
[21:31] <Longhorn|XP> k. ubuntu is installing.
[21:31] <lnb_> mountall: mount /proc/bus/usb [360] terminated with status 32
[21:31] <lmojzis> Hi, i have Kubuntu, but this is generic KDE issue. I added my ftp server to network places in dolphin, authenticated and saved password to wallet. Whenever i try to edit anything with kate, it keeps on asking me to enter password for the server, but in the auth dialog, password is already written in and even remember box is checked. I tried to delete passwords from KWallet, but after i save it in the wallet again, it repeat. It does not ask when i hit CTRL-L
[21:31] <lnb_> any way to save this box???
[21:31] <Tao> I'm having troubles with the Namoroka web browser. When I had Firefox, I did some tweaking with the about:config settings and had it going amazingly fast. But when it upgraded (or perhaps downgraded based on performance) to Namoroka, I noticed a significant drop in performance, to the point where it was worse than FF was before I tweaked the settings. Can anybody tell me how to speed up Namoroka?
[21:32] <davide> logout
[21:32] <Jordan_U> lnb_: That error is most likely a read herring. Did you upgrade to 9.10 before upgradeing to 10.04?
[21:33] <lnb_> i think i did
[21:33] <lmojzis> Tao: One advice, do not ude Namaroka, use firefox instead. I had same issues with evern eating whole CPU by just loading WEbPage or watching youtube @ 3 fps @ nvidia gt 220m + inter core 2 duo
[21:33] <ubutom_> lmojzis, um, this is not kde channel :D
[21:33] <Tao> lmojzis: Ok then. How do I get FF back?
[21:33] <Psi-Jack> I've a curious question. What exactly does wubi do to "install" Ubuntu? Does it resize parititions or anything?
[21:33] <Xecuter> hi! my eee crashed, i and don't have a flash drive to use to install. but the bios of the eee has buildt-in a pxe boot thingy. can  i use that to install ubuntu? and how can i do it without setting up lots of servers and stuff?
[21:33] <SlidingHorn> Tao, You might want to try finding a channel with support specifically for Namoroka -- this channel's for Ubuntu support only
[21:34] <lmojzis> I don't know, i solved it by installing Maverick Meerkat
[21:34] <lmojzis> clean install
[21:34] <lmojzis> then i never used ubuntu tweak
[21:34] <ubutom_> Psi-Jack, I think it just install on the windows filesystem and doesn't alter the partitions
[21:34] <Jordan_U> Psi-Jack: No, http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php#internals
[21:34] <Psi-Jack> ubutom_: Interesting.
[21:35] <vu1kan> the_dark_warrio: i'm unable to duplicate your issue, what version of pidgin do you have installed?
[21:35] <Psi-Jack> Guess I'll try it out, then for my laptop. I didn't wanna repartition it at all, but when I'm out, sometimes I just want linux. heh
[21:36] <ubutom_> Psi-Jack, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1469405 might be interesting
[21:36] <lnb_> the problem seems to be around /proc/bus/usb which does not exist
[21:36] <lnb_> it cant do a mountall
[21:36] <the_dark_warrio> vu1kan: I was testing the PPA version. I thought that would be the problem, but turning back to 2.6.6 has the same effect. I haven't restarted the system. Maybe I should
[21:36] <lnb_> init seems to terminate at 'ureadahead-other main processes (844) terminated with status 4
[21:37] <viktor2235> hi, i wonder if anybody can help me with a liitle problem i'm having?
[21:38] <vu1kan> the_dark_warrio: maybe you should, i can change my status with either pidgin or the indicator-applet-session(btw is that ver. 0.3.7?) and it doesn't sign me out
[21:38] <vu1kan> !ask | viktor2235
[21:38] <the_dark_warrio> vu1kan: the indicator applet is 0.3.7
[21:38] <lnb_> is there a way to boot to command prompt and try to edit /etc/fstab ?
[21:38] <lnb_> this is really bad\
[21:39] <the_dark_warrio> vu1kan: thanks for the help, I will try restarting the system and see if it works
[21:39] <viktor2235> ok:) i have a windows-executable that gets blocked by wine because it isn't marked as executable, so i can't run it
[21:39] <SlidingHorn> lnb_, not sure why you want to do that, but during boot, hold shift to bring up the Grub menu..select recovery mode & edit from there
[21:40] <lnb_> i pressed ESC and it only shows 10.04 kernels and i've tried recovery from that menu and it does same thing
[21:40] <crazed_> brb
[21:40] <lnb_> it does not boot
[21:41] <robertzaccour> gnome-panel is in the repos. how do i use it after installing it?
[21:41] <viktor2235> is there a way to run a windows-executable with wine that gets blocked because it's not marked as executable?
[21:41] <vu1kan> viktor2235: try #winehq
[21:41] <ubutom_> !chmod | viktor2235
[21:42] <lnb_> ok i used oldest kernel and it got me into a command prompt
[21:42] <viktor2235> owkee, thanks for the tips
[21:42] <ubutom_> viktor2235, sudo chmod +x file.exe should work
[21:43] <SlidingHorn> robertzaccour, if you're running gnome as your desktop environment it should run by default.  what are you trying to do?
[21:43] <lnb_> ahha! there is a line in /etc/fstab: none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=127,devmode=664 0 0
[21:44] <bluebaron> what would i use to move the mouse to a specific location and click it .. (i am an experienced programmer if i need to write something)
[21:44] <bluebaron> ?
[21:44] <Uboy> Can anyone help me to make seperate / and /home? I did it later, but one of guys here see my screenshot of gParted and told me that u need changes. Can anyone see my screenshot?
[21:44] <robertzaccour> SlidingHorn, i haven't installed it yet, I just want to know what i need to do to use it after its installed
[21:45] <mobee> irc.zurna.net
[21:45] <afroman> hej. what's recommended when it comes to the installation of 10.04. should I install it through the update manager software or should I download 10.04, burn it on cd then make the install?
[21:45] <SlidingHorn> robertzaccour, what desktop environment are you running right now?  (kubuntu = kde, ubuntu = gnome, xubuntu = xfce)
[21:45] <Jordan_U> !separatehome | robertzaccour
[21:45] <Jordan_U> Uboy: ^^
[21:45] <Jordan_U> robertzaccour: Sorry, wrong nick.
[21:46] <Ego_Proctor> afroman, from my experience if there are issues with 10.04 and your machine they will arise either way.  If that is what you are trying to avoid...
[21:46] <Uboy> Jordan_U: what?
[21:46] <lnb_> ok now it booted up to 10.04
[21:46] <UnderSampled1> hello?
[21:46] <robertzaccour> SlidingHorn, gnome Jordan_U its ok happens sometimes
[21:46] <SlidingHorn> !hi | UnderSampled1
[21:47] <Jordan_U> Uboy: Are you trying to install with a separate /home, or convert your current install to use a separate /home?
[21:47] <UnderSampled1> SlidingHorn: I took some photos, but when I moved the SD card to the computer, there was a filesystem error, and the files disappeared (allong with the folder they were in). what is the best way to recover these?
[21:47] <lnb_> now i have to figure out what that line was for in /etc/fstab for usbfs
[21:47] <afroman> Ego_Proctor: that's not what I meant. clean installation or upgrade? does it even matter?
[21:48] <SlidingHorn> robertzaccour, if you're running gnome, then the gnome-panel's already installed.  try running:   killall gnome-panel
[21:48] <SlidingHorn> UnderSampled1, you may want to check this out (check your pm's in just a sec)
[21:48] <SlidingHorn> !undelete > UnderSampled1
[21:49] <robertzaccour> SlidingHorn, according to synaptic its not installed. should i install it then killall gnome-panel?
[21:49] <Uboy> Jordan_U: I have seperated partition now, but sepsepse told me u must changed it, can u see this plz? >http://img23.img98.com/out.php/i113094_ScreenshotdevsdaGParted.png
[21:49] <SlidingHorn> robertzaccour, install it (sudo apt-get install gnome-panel) and then either run the killall or just log out and back in
[21:50] <Jordan_U> Uboy: Which partitions do you plan to use for what mountpoints?
[21:51] <robertzaccour> SlidingHorn, oh thanks
[21:51] <SlidingHorn> robertzaccour, no problem
[21:51] <Uboy> sda1 as /
[21:51] <joeuser> Hey guys
[21:52] <SlidingHorn> !hi | joeuser
[21:52] <Geo_Rocks> Hello?
[21:52] <Uboy> Jordan_U: sda1 > /  ,  sda2 > swap , sda3 > /home , sda3 > /NTFS (my music, videos and datas)
[21:52] <joeuser> I got a problem with redrawing everthing
[21:52] <joeuser> I get flicker when scrolling etc
[21:53] <joeuser> Even though i have sufficient drivers for my GPU
[21:53] <Hardekyn> Hi, I have just deleted my windows partition from a dual boot, how do I extend the Ubuntu partition to fill the space where windows used to be?
[21:53] <SlidingHorn> joeuser, do you have the latest display drivers installed?  (p.s. try not to use "Enter" as punctuation)  ;)
[21:53] <Uboy> Jordan_U: sorry, sda2 is /home and sda3 is swap
[21:53] <joeuser> Yupp just installed them so
[21:53] <Dapeamel> hey guys I gonna install ubuntu from a netinstall which one will I choose:S its like lucid  lynx, karmic koala, jaunty jackalope, intrepid ibex, hardy heroen, dapper drake,
[21:54] <SlidingHorn> Dapeamel, the most recent LTS release was 10.04 (lucid lynx) -- that's probably the one you'll want
[21:54] <Jordan_U> Uboy: Seems fine to me.
[21:54] <Dapeamel> what the difference?. Im on a comp which have 6gb ram intel quadcore 2.
[21:54] <livingdaylight> can someone give me an open-source music player that also runs in windows?
[21:54] <Dapeamel> I have been on debian in 2 years but..
[21:54] <Jordan_U> Dapeamel: lucid lynx
[21:54] <Dapeamel> ok ok thx
[21:54] <SlidingHorn> livingdaylight, vlc
[21:55] <SlidingHorn> !info vlc | livingdaylight
[21:55] <Uboy> Jordan_U: u mean nothing may be change?
[21:55] <Uboy> Jordan_U: must be change?
[21:55] <livingdaylight> SlidingHorn: more like a jukebox like rhythmbox or banshee
[21:56] <SlidingHorn> livingdaylight, vlc should work for that
[21:56] <Geo_Rocks> um..
[21:56] <SlidingHorn> !ask | Geo_Rocks
[21:56] <livingdaylight> SlidingHorn: vlc is not a jukebox???
[21:56] <Geo_Rocks> his is oing o sound really icedibly juvenile
[21:56] <suicidepills> is sharing directories in your home directory allowed in linux?  i can share folders that live outside of /home but not dirs that live within /home.
[21:57] <zenlunatic> suicidepills, sharing how?
[21:57] <Geo_Rocks> ca someone teac  ow to(fo lack of a better wor) hac?
[21:57] <Jordan_U> Uboy: Not that I see.
[21:57] <Geo_Rocks> *ack
[21:57] <suicidepills> via smbd.  i'm setting up my shares using smb.conf
[21:57] <Geo_Rocks> *hack
[21:58] <zenlunatic> suicidepills, okay then yes you need to configure samba
[21:58] <vu1kan> !ot | Geo_Rocks
[21:58] <suicidepills> zenlunatic, do you know why i would be able to share dirs that aren't in my home but I can share dirs that are outside?
[21:58] <Ego_Proctor> afroman, upgrade should keep your files intact and installed programs as well
[21:58] <ubuntu> installation
[21:59] <suicidepills> zenlunatic, sorry i'm kind of a linux noob :-P
[21:59] <pw-toxic> is there an alternative to ebox? ;)
[21:59] <jbl_> suicidepills, compare the permissions of /home vs permissions of the folders you can share
[21:59] <ferdi> hello
[21:59] <zenlunatic> suicidepills, wait arent those the same thing
[22:00] <suicidepills> zenlunatic, for example, i can share /test-share but i can't share /home/test-share
[22:01] <SlidingHorn> livingdaylight, vlc has jukebox capability.  takes some configuring but it will work
[22:01] <zenlunatic> suicidepills, you use the samba gui toolS?
[22:01] <suicidepills> zenlunatic, nah, i've been going all cmdline - trying to become proficient in it
[22:01] <zenlunatic> personally i would recommend the gui tools for samba
[22:01] <livingdaylight> SlidingHorn: ok, I didn't know that
[22:01] <suicidepills> zenlunatic, actually, i didn't know that there were gui tools for samba
[22:02] <pozic> Is there a decent browser which includes the Google Chrome features, but does not contain the broken toolbar font that they have (non-configurable)?
[22:02] <ferdi> hi  lizza
[22:02] <SlidingHorn> pozic, firefox has a similar "multibar" that you can configure.  what problem are you having?
[22:03] <zenlunatic> suicidepills, try apt-get install gadmin-samba
[22:03] <jbl_> suicidepills, compare the output of "ls -ld /home" and "ls -ld /test-share"
[22:04] <Hardekyn> Anybody able to help with resizing the Ubuntu partition into the free space?
[22:05] <pozic> SlidingHorn: Firefox is sluggish.
[22:05] <Jordan_U> Hardekyn: Boot an Ubuntu or gparted LiveCD, start gparted, resize the partition.
[22:05] <suicidepills> jbl_, both have identical perms
[22:06] <SlidingHorn> pozic, well to be honest, any "feature-rich" browser (i.e. having a multibar, and other stuff) is going to be a bit sluggish....
[22:06] <pozic> SlidingHorn: the multi-bar is not what I mean by Google Chrome features.
[22:06] <jbl_> suicidepills, how about "ls -ld /home/test-share" ?
[22:06] <livingdaylight> how do I join a new network?
[22:06] <pozic> SlidingHorn: I mean the features that make Chrome appear fast.
[22:06] <Hardekyn> Thanks Jordan_U I'll give it a go...been trying just using gParted from the running install...appreciate it :)
[22:06] <pozic> SlidingHorn: which Google had some presentations about in the past.
[22:06] <livingdaylight>  forward slash + # networkname?
[22:07] <pozic> SlidingHorn: the multi-bar only makes it slower.
[22:07] <Jordan_U> Hardekyn: You're welcome.
[22:07] <psuasti_> that would disconnect you from the old server livingdaylight
[22:07] <pozic> SlidingHorn: but not by an annoying amount; the other optimizations done destroy Firefox completely.
[22:07] <SlidingHorn> pozic, oh...well -- there are tons of lightweight browsers out there, kazahakaze (sp?), midori, links, etc
[22:07] <vu1kan> livingdaylight: you mean to ask how to join a different channel?
[22:07] <loopidity> downloaded the cheese tar pack, there is INSTALL, install-sh ....files, how to install it?
[22:07] <pozic> SlidingHorn: links? Seriously?
[22:07] <livingdaylight> vu1kan: no, different network
[22:07] <SlidingHorn> pozic, you asked ;-)
[22:07] <livingdaylight> psuasti_: you saying one can only be on one network like freenode at a time?
[22:08] <suicidepills> jbl_, h/o, i'll give that a shot
[22:08] <SlidingHorn> IdleOne, who do you keep banning?  lol
[22:08] <vu1kan> livingdaylight: /server new.server.name
[22:08] <livingdaylight> vu1kan: cheers
[22:09] <IdleOne> SlidingHorn: trying to reset a ban proper, sorry about all the modes :/
[22:09] <SlidingHorn> IdleOne, it's all good, just had me curious
[22:09] <pozic> SlidingHorn: The whole "light-weight" thing is also a user myth.
[22:09] <IdleOne> SlidingHorn: not you! to answer your question :)
[22:10] <pozic> SlidingHorn: making something which is more lines of code, but much faster would be considered to be "light weight" by most users.
[22:10] <joeuser> Guys anyone know anything about this flickering issue when scrolling ? I just instaled the latest drivers from ATi and everthing :/
[22:10] <wad> Hi folks. I'm replacing my debian-based server with an Ubuntu 10.04 32-bit server edition. The machine has two NICs in it, one of which needs to use PPPOE to talk with the DSL modem. Should I use pppoeconf or something else? (This box has no network until I get pppoe running.)
[22:10] <slide> So I currently have a file server with specific samba shares for movies/tv/music etc but all my files are quickly outpacing the individual storage of my drives so I need some way to access these files via their current samba share but having the files located on any number of drives. can anyone help?
[22:10] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm
[22:10] <pozic> If you hide latency, even the largest programs will appear light-weight.
[22:10] <SlidingHorn> pozic: we're veering off topic, but I'd disagree to a point....yes there are plenty of browsers that claim to be lightweight but are as bloated as the next...however there are some good, small-footprint ones available.  anyway...on to the next topic :-)
[22:10] <Psi-Jack> What does Wubi's "ACPI workarounds" use for kernel options?
[22:10] <wad> slide: Use symbolic links. That's what I do.
[22:11] <pozic> It is just that people don't tend to optimize for that particular case.
[22:11] <pozic> SlidingHorn: yes, sure, next topic.
[22:11] <Sinani201> ...
[22:11] <brontoeee> wad, and they would work over samba?
[22:11] <wad> brontoeee, sure do.
[22:12] <suicidepills> jbl_, i think i just figured it out
[22:12] <slide> wad, not a bad idea, except managing the links could become annoying hrm.. maybe i could write a script to auto scan the dirs and auto add links depending on what filetype they are
[22:12] <wad> brontoeee, samba asks the OS for the directories, and the OS understands symbolic links. QED.
[22:12] <brontoeee> right, i know they dont work with ftp
[22:12] <suicidepills> jbl_, i didn't realize that each user has a separate dir for their stuff
[22:12] <psuasti_> what versions of ubuntu work well for laptops?  specifically a 32 bit laptop
[22:12] <wad> psuasti_, 10.04.
[22:12] <suicidepills> jbl_, for some reason, thought /home always pointed to the user's home dir
[22:13] <suicidepills> jbl_, anyways, thanks for your help!
[22:13] <jbl_> suicidepills, np
[22:13] <suicidepills> zenlunatic, thanks for your help, too!
[22:14] <loopidity> how to install cheese, there is configure script, INSTALL, install-sh... any idea
[22:14] <loopidity> make doesnt work, neither make install
[22:14] <vu1kan> loopidity: sudo apt-get install cheese
[22:15] <jbl_> loopidity, can't you use the package that's in the ubuntu repos, like vulkan said?
[22:15] <loopidity> vulkan i dont have internet for that box to do it that way
[22:15] <bella`> 'ello
[22:15] <psuasti_> wad, will the desktop versions work for laptops?
[22:15] <hardcampa> loopidity, then run the configure script if there is one
[22:16] <hardcampa> just do a ./configure --prefix=/usr/Local or whatever
[22:16] <linux_is_my_hero> how do i download 9.10? 10.04 has some issues i dont like
[22:16] <jbl_> loopidity, in that case, you'll need all the dependencies that cheese requires. Not that easy w/o net access...
[22:16] <hardcampa> err should have been local not Local
[22:16] <brontoeee> psuasti_, i used netbook remix for a while (about 30 minutes), but i think the only difference is a gui
[22:16] <psuasti_> k
[22:16] <codebrainz> linux_is_my_hero, http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/
[22:16] <loopidity> jbl_, anyway to know if the webcam will work after installation?
[22:17] <Gryllida> what is the proper syntax to do gksu? "gksu path/to/application" or is there something else necessary to write?
[22:17] <brontoeee> psuasti_, and thats only ever usefull for smallscreen laptops anyway
[22:17] <loopidity> jbl_, got an error, my intltool is too old, oh no
[22:17] <IdleOne> sorry bout all the modes folks hopefully we won't have to set anymore bans for today
[22:17] <ubutom_> brontoeee, disagree on that one, netbook desktop in lubuntu is very nice, easy access to applications
[22:18] <hiexpo> are ya banning today
[22:18] <jbl_> loopidity, hmm no absolute answer there, but you could try "lsusb" and google the USB id's of the webcam to see if there's a linux driver for it
[22:19] <SlidingHorn> Gryllida, what program are you trying to run?
[22:19] <loopidity> jbl_, sounds good, i will see, thanks
[22:19] <Gryllida> SlidingHorn: don't know whether it really changes the syntax - but it's firefox
[22:19] <brontoeee> ubutom_, that it or something else than gui differences?
[22:19] <SlidingHorn> Gryllida, why do you want to run firefox as root????
[22:20] <SlidingHorn> Gryllida, that's incredibly dangerous
[22:20] <ubutom_> brontoeee, well, I just think it also can be nice on big screens, that'S all :)
[22:21] <Uboy> sebsebseb r u back?
[22:25] <brontoeee> ubutom_, i was talking about official 'netbook remix'
[22:25] <Gryllida> SlidingHorn, thank you for your reply, but I've downloaded Firefox from Mozilla website, it has a Help - Check for updates menuitem, when I click it, it says "not enough permissions", which is why I want to run it as root to update it.
[22:27] <Jordan_U> Gryllida: If you want to use firefox from Mozilla's website (why?) then install it within your home directory.
[22:27] <ubutom_> brontoeee, and I was talking about netbook interface with lubuntu on a normal laptop, don't know if it is totally different, but I for myself dinfthe netbook gui very comfortable
[22:27] <ubutom_> *dinf = find
[22:27] <brontoeee> ubutom_, ok
[22:28] <loopidity> strange, the wireless in on and it can see the networks, but ifconfig doesnt have wlan0
[22:28] <Traveler7> yo
[22:28] <Traveler7> i like pie
[22:28] <Traveler7> do you ?
[22:28] <vu1kan> !ot | Traveler7
[22:28] <sebsebseb> ubottu: right lets do this, and it seems you want to in pm
[22:28] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ^
[22:28] <Gryllida> How do I know whether a process in system terminal is running as root?
[22:29] <Gryllida> s/terminal/monitor
[22:29] <sebsebseb> Uboy: however channel is also pretty quite at the moment, did you do anything since last night?
[22:29] <Traveler7> yoyoyo
[22:29] <vu1kan> Traveler7: do you have a support question?
[22:29] <Uboy> sebsebseb: no diffrence, what u want.
[22:29] <opnet> hehehe, look, cooking lessons
[22:29] <opnet> http://tinychat.com/hackerthreads
[22:30] <vu1kan> ...take that for a 'no'...
[22:30] <opnet> brought to you from #hackerthreads
[22:30] <Uboy> sebsebseb: no last night I'm just sleeping!
[22:30] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok so same set up as what you showed me last night?
[22:30] <ubutom_> Gryllida, top | grep root
[22:30] <Gryllida> !ops opnet spam
[22:30] <Uboy> sebsebseb: yes
[22:30] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: where is the spam?
[22:30] <Uboy> sebsebseb: no chnging
[22:30] <ubutom_> Gryllida, ok, sorry, misread :D
[22:30] <Uboy> sebsebseb: nothing changed
[22:31] <sebsebseb> Uboy: yeah and there was no data on there?  ready to just clean install yeah?
[22:31] <Uboy> sebsebseb: a question, a boot partiotion is a / ? and sda1 for me?
[22:31] <Uboy> sebsebseb: yes, I'm ready
[22:31] <levu> how can i disable the examples folder to be displayed in netbook launcher?
[22:31] <sebsebseb> Uboy: yeah I saw Jordan_U tried to help earlier, but since your new you didn't quite understand, well you will understand partitioning a bit better after this I guess
[22:32] <Uboy> sebsebseb: ok, tnx dude
[22:32] <IdleOne> !ops
[22:32] <vu1kan> how would i tell ubuntu to use both my pci video card and the onboard video?(neither of which are nvidia or ati...a voodoo and whatever everex uses)
[22:32] <Uboy> sebsebseb: i'm now in LiveCD Session
[22:33] <Uboy> sebsebseb: with Ethernet ADSl cable connection
[22:33] <sebsebseb> Uboy: yeah
[22:34] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok sda1 and such don't worry about that, thats a Gparted thing
[22:34] <Uboy> sebsebseb: ok, dude if you are busy I can wait for u dude
[22:34] <sebsebseb> Uboy: open the installer put in the details.  ideally put a good password, so at least 8 letters and numbers, more the beter I guess, characters such as £ $ % " to make even more secure if really want.  Then do manual install, and tell me when your at that stage.
[22:35] <Uboy> sebsebseb: it wont be reboor pc?
[22:36] <Uboy> sebsebseb: reboot
[22:36] <Uboy> ?
[22:36] <sebsebseb> Uboy: yes you will need to re boot the PC once Ubuntu is re installed
[22:36] <Uboy> sebsebseb: ok, i'll back
[22:36] <sebsebseb> Uboy: no
[22:36] <sebsebseb> Uboy: your on the Live  CD now?
[22:36] <sebsebseb> Uboy: thats what we want
[22:36] <rrva> I just installed karmic via netinstaller and now I am upgrading to lucid. Upgrade is slow. Is it faster to restart netinstall directly to lucid?
[22:36] <Uboy> sebsebseb: yes I'm in liveCD
[22:37] <sebsebseb> Uboy: when we are finnished it will tell you to re boot the computer, like when you installed Ubuntu before
[22:37] <sebsebseb> Uboy: when you are finnished I mean
[22:37] <drbobb> hey is there something broken with udev in lucid? I'm having drivers not autoload when devices are connected. Even USB mass storage seems to have a problem
[22:37] <Uboy> sebsebseb: ok, now I'm run install from Desktop?
[22:37] <sebsebseb> Uboy: yes
[22:37] <codebrainz> rrva, I reduced about 8hrs off my install time by changing the mirrors in /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:37] <Uboy> sebsebseb: ok
[22:37] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and do what I said before
[22:38] <rrva> codebrainz: all files are already downloaded, it's just replacing packages which is taking time, i/o bound not network
[22:38] <Uboy> sebsebseb: I'm in partitioning selection mode
[22:39] <drbobb> not to mention USB net not loading when I connect my android phone and switch it into connection sharing mode
[22:39] <sebsebseb> Uboy: do manual install
[22:39] <Uboy> sebsebseb: select manuallly?
[22:39] <sebsebseb> Uboy: did you put a good password for your acocunt? I hope so
[22:39] <sebsebseb> Uboy: manual install yeah
[22:39] <Uboy> sebsebseb: I'm not arive to that stiil
[22:39] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok so setting up an account comes later on in the installer?
[22:40] <Uboy> sebsebseb: ok, i'm in partitionig
[22:40] <Uboy> sebsebseb: installer doesn't arive to setting Up usernames and pass, it just in step 5 > partition
[22:40] <sebsebseb> Uboy: before getting rid of this question.  Were you able to boot into Ubuntu or just not recovery mode?
[22:40] <drbobb> what I mean is I connect a usb drive and it is not recognized as a mass storage device - until I manually modprobe usb_storage - and then it works
[22:41] <preben_> what is the package called that has a program where you can change the grub boot setup. I mean resolution and which OS to be default etc...
[22:41] <sebsebseb> Uboy: the swap is fine, so that can stay,  the other partitions should be deleted.  If there was data you would lose it after doing that, but you told me there isn't any.
[22:41] <drbobb> and likewise with the usb network device
[22:41] <ikonia> preben_: I'm not aware of such a package
[22:41] <Uboy> sebsebseb: just recovery mode, but my pass does't work and becouse of I do it manually login, it didin't want me a pass
[22:42] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok well that will be fixed after this as well
[22:42] <vu1kan> !info startupmanager | preben_
[22:42] <Uboy> sebsebseb: ok, now erase all of disk?
[22:43] <preben_> vu1kan, thanks that it was
[22:43] <sebsebseb> Uboy: keep the swap if you can, get rid of the other partitions
[22:43] <Uboy> sebsebseb: ok, I deleted all partitons and now have 320 GB free space
[22:43] <preben_> anybody know a tutorial/document on how to setup Fn-volume Up/Down/Mute with the new udev system in lucid? My acpi setup do not work anymore
[22:44] <Uboy> sebsebseb: I erased SWAP to Like as F-Dsk in Dos!
[22:44] <sebsebseb> Uboy: how much free space does it say you have?
[22:45] <Uboy> sebsebseb: 320 GB, all of my HDD
[22:45] <sebsebseb> Uboy: right so 12GB /  will be fine,  2GB  SWAP,  and the rest of the hard disk a big seperate /home
[22:46] <zain> hallo
[22:46] <vu1kan> !hi | zain
[22:46] <Uboy> sepsepsep it means 12 GB > / , 2G > SWAP and 305GB for home? 2 partitions?
[22:46] <zain> Ist noch jemand online, der mir eventuell helfen könnte?
[22:46] <sebsebseb> Uboy: no
[22:46] <sebsebseb> !de | zain
[22:47] <Uboy> sepsepsep, 3 partitions?
[22:47] <sebsebseb> Uboy: yes  3 partitions
[22:47] <Uboy> ok.
[22:47] <sebsebseb> Uboy: swap should probably really be made last
[22:47] <Uboy> sebsebseb: ok
[22:47] <ubutom_> hey, what's the way again to make the system talk at bootup, you know, the initialize hardware text and so on, did i do that in grub.conf?
[22:47] <sebsebseb> Uboy: so  1.  /   2.   /home  3.  swap
[22:48] <sebsebseb> Uboy: first make 12GB  /  partition in Ext4 file system
[22:48] <Uboy> sebsebseb:ok, so I can't creart SWAp in larger space?
[22:48] <sebsebseb> Uboy: making partitions  like this is basic maths as well, and I use calculater for that :D
[22:48] <vu1kan> ubutom_: i use espeak to have my system say "good morning"...i dunno if that would do what you want tho
[22:48] <hiexpo> repeat of last night ?
[22:49] <sebsebseb> Uboy: 1024 is 1GB and we want 12GB so  1024 x 12 = 12288
[22:49] <sebsebseb> Uboy: oh wrong sum
[22:49] <Uboy> sebsebseb: :d, so tell me a type (Primary or Logical) and (End or begining) ?
[22:49] <soee> in KDE 4.5 RC1 there is no longer option to set icon size in QuickLauncher ?
[22:50] <soee> soz not here
[22:50] <ubutom_> vu1kan, thanks, no, I mean the verbose bootup where you see what the system does, somehow I disabled splashscreen and dont remember how
[22:51] <sebsebseb> ubutom_: no that seems to be right for the size 12288 it shows you how big it would make the partition, before applying anyway
[22:51] <sebsebseb> ubutom_: / and /home are primary partitions
[22:51] <DNSmith> does someone have keys for hon :) ?
[22:51] <Uboy> sebsebseb: / is Primary and in Begiining, ?
[22:52] <sebsebseb> Uboy: yes in beginning thats how I do it
[22:52] <hiexpo> sebsebseb,  is trying to partion for that ebcrpted home dir ?
[22:52] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: no not going to do encrypted home :)
[22:52] <Uboy> sebsebseb: can u see this plz > http://img23.img98.com/out.php/i113181_ScreenshotCreatepartition.png
[22:53] <hiexpo> ^encrypted
[22:53] <sebsebseb> Uboy: by the way make sure not to do an encrypted home, that can really mess up Ubuntu later on
[22:53] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: just a seperate /home :)
[22:53] <hiexpo> sebsebseb,  oh ok
[22:53] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: and to fix his install as well, since something is rather wrong with it
[22:53] <sweetpi> ubutom_: you mean you want to see the boot messages?
[22:53] <hiexpo> sebsebseb, is he doing a fresh install
[22:53] <Uboy> sebsebseb: did u see that?
[22:54] <ubutom_> sweetpi, yeah, found it, thanks :)
[22:54] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: yes
[22:54] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: and with seperate /home this time
[22:54] <hiexpo> sebsebseb,  good thats best
[22:54] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: indeed
[22:54] <ubutom_> forgot how i did it though, should write such things down in a text file
[22:55] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: hello again, I'm trying to run firefox as root to do 'help - check for updates', seems that I don't know how to gksu
[22:55] <sebsebseb> Uboy: that looks ok, but you need to do the mount point, which is /
[22:55] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: uhmm no you don't run Firefox as root or with gksudo
[22:56] <hiexpo> oh boy
[22:56] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: gksu or gksudo
[22:56] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: also it tends to take a while for Ubuntu to have the latest version when one is out
[22:56] <cntrational> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey#Compose%20key okay, this article says that you can use XIM to set up custom compose key sequences, but following these instructions causes the compose key to stop working
[22:56] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: no I am saying don't run it with any of that. don't use sudo for FIrefox, don't use root on Firefox
[22:56] <Uboy> sebsebseb: my question now is Primary or Logical and option (beginning or End) , please tell me setting for each of 3 partitions
[22:56] <Jordan_U> Gryllida: DO NOT RUN FIREFOX AS ROOT, you have been warned many times. It's a terrible idea and there is no valid reason to do it.
[22:56] <vu1kan> sebsebseb: Gryllida's trying to use the help>get update to pull down the latest ver. of ff from mozilla directly
[22:56] <sebsebseb> Uboy: have you made the first partition yet?  the / ?
[22:56] <Uboy> sebsebseb: no , my question now is Primary or Logical and option (beginning or End) , please tell me setting for each of 3 partitions
[22:56]  * Gryllida sighs
[22:57] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: ah yes, your that FIrefox add on developer guy aren't you?
[22:57] <Gryllida> Jordan_U, sebsebseb: I'm using firefox nightly from mozilla website, of course I need to update it at least every week.
[22:57] <piju> guys, hows ARRL's field day ?
[22:57] <Faissal> hello
[22:57] <Jordan_U> Gryllida: If you want to use firefox from Mozilla's website (why?) then install it within your home directory.
[22:57] <sebsebseb> Uboy: have you told it to make the first partition yet?
[22:58] <sebsebseb> Uboy: if so what does it say in manual install for it?
[22:58] <hugo_> Hello, i have recently installed Ubuntu and i am wondering if there is any way to make the Terminal to auto start when you turn on your computer ?
[22:58] <Gryllida> Jordan_U: why - because I'm nightly tester; then install - done; but I don't want to download and install it in same way manually every time I want to update it.
[22:58] <cntrational> hugo_: go to system, preferences, and startup applications
[22:58] <Jordan_U> Gryllida: Then install to your home directory.
[22:59] <sebsebseb> Uboy: you can show me in manual install if you want, and then we can move on to partition 2  the seperate /home
[22:59] <Uboy> sebsebseb: I'm to select for / partition yet, just tell me setting for  / ? primary or logical and end or begininh?
[22:59] <Jordan_U> Gryllida: Then firefox will havve permissions to update all of the files that it needs to update.
[22:59] <sebsebseb> Uboy: primary and at the begining
[22:59] <jbl_> Gryllida, isn't the firefox PPA not good enough for what you need?
[22:59] <Uboy> sebsebseb: ok
[22:59] <Gryllida> Jordan_U: it's in usr/local/, and since I don't have any session saved, home page is an about: page, so no danger in running it as root
[22:59] <sebsebseb> Uboy: what you showed me just now is ok, except for how you didn't do a mount point,  which is /
[23:00] <zpk> hi all
[23:00] <Jordan_U> Gryllida: Don't put it in /usr/local, put it in your home directory.
[23:00] <sebsebseb> Uboy: also actsauly the size you put
[23:00] <Gryllida> jbl_: does it have the latest 3.7.a6pre version? if yes, tell me how to turn it on
[23:00] <sebsebseb> Uboy: isn't the one I gave
[23:00] <hugo_> quit
[23:00] <Uboy> sebsebseb: ok it's created with / point and with 12GB at the begining with type praimary
[23:00] <sebsebseb> Uboy: I gave you.  12288
[23:00] <cntrational> hugo_: after that, click Add, put in Terminal as the name, and gnome-terminal as the command
[23:00] <cntrational> hugeand that's it
[23:00] <sebsebseb> Uboy: however for / it can be a bit under anyway without a problem :)
[23:00] <jbl_> Gryllida, I think so, check this: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[23:00] <vladsharp> !seen ricotz
[23:01] <Uboy> sebsebseb, yes I insert 12288 MB
[23:01] <LjL> vladsharp: there is no seen command.
[23:01] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok show me manual install
[23:01] <sebsebseb> Uboy: what you get there now
[23:01] <vladsharp> LjL: no way to find out when someone's last been online?
[23:01] <mneptok> Gryllida: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[23:01] <LjL> vladsharp: if they're registered, do /msg nickserv info nickname
[23:01] <Gryllida> jbl_: mm... checking it out, but what is 'help - check for updates' menuitem for then? what if I want to use it? & I should learn how to gksu anyways
[23:02] <slinker1> or whowas
[23:02] <vladsharp> LjL: great, thanks
[23:02] <patriick> Everytime I run sudo apt-get update I always get this error message: W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[23:02] <Gryllida> jbl_: otherwise I'll have to file a bug 'remove check for updates manuitem in linux'
[23:02] <patriick> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[23:02] <Uboy> sebsebseb: http://img23.img98.com/out.php/i113216_ScreenshotInstall.png I done it
[23:02] <trism> Gryllida: if you want to use the built in updater, you should install it to a directory in your home directory, so you don't need root to update (but the ppa is a good idea too)
[23:02] <Uboy> sebsebseb: now creating /home, so tell me type and begining or end option
[23:02] <lunks> Hi, I have a motherboard with an optical spidf output, but no matter what I try, I can't seem to get Ubuntu to get any sound trough it. Any help?
[23:03] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok it doesn't show in GB right nevermind,  how much RAM do you have 1GB yeah?
[23:03] <Gryllida> trism: the instructions say to install it to /usr/local .
[23:03] <Jordan_U> Gryllida: That item works fine if you install to your home directory. You'll notice that packages from the repository don't have that menu item because you're supposed to use the package manager instead
[23:03] <Uboy> sebsebseb: I can't remember, any command to show size of ram?
[23:04] <mneptok> Uboy: free -m
[23:04] <iPC-Centre> how to create shortcut for [copy] from Keyboard Shortcuts
[23:04] <Gryllida> Jordan_U: the instructions say to install it to /usr/local .
[23:04] <mneptok> Gryllida: why not use the PPA?
[23:04] <jbl_> Gryllida, the fact that you cannot use the "Check for updates" is kind of your own doing: you installed in a directory for which you do not have write permissions. Installing in your home directory is what you want really
[23:04] <jub369> Hi i need some help install UnrealIrcd3.2.8.1 i tryed useing the fourms on it none of them are working i am willing to let a person do remote desktop
[23:05] <mangojambo> Hi there... using both, gtk-recordmydesktop or istanbul it is not possible to record sounds from desktop, other softwares, etc... For example, recording a video conference from skype it just recordsthe audio from my microfone, not the other.
[23:05] <sebsebseb> Uboy: I think its about 1GB  since  the swap you had before. http://img22.img98.com/out.php/i111074_Screenshot1.png
[23:05] <jub369> Hi i need some help install UnrealIrcd3.2.8.1 i tryed useing the fourms on it none of them are working i am willing to let a person do remote desktop  it errors out and then when started if started i cant connect to it and i cant get configs right i running Ubuntu 9.10
[23:06] <euthymos> hi edited /etc/fstab so that a FAT partition is mounted automatically at boot - it appears on the desktop, and that's fine. But when I double-click it, nothing happens. Then, if I double click it again, a window opens listing the files inside the partition
[23:06] <sebsebseb> Uboy: anyway you want double the RAM for swap.  and that should be the last partition really I guess.  So  the /home can't be made to big.
[23:06] <euthymos> I have to double click it twice
[23:06] <iPC-Centre> how to set shortcut for [copy] from Keyboard Shortcuts ?
[23:06] <Uboy> sebsebseb: please see the output of free -m command > http://img23.img98.com/out.php/i113220_terminal.png
[23:07] <Uboy> sebsebseb: I don't have swap, so what is the size of swap using?!
[23:07] <Uboy> sebsebseb: in that picture?
[23:07] <jbl_> mneptok, I don't think the PPA builds will behave differently from the official package in that regard. And if they do, we're back to needing root access ;)
[23:07] <shaqfu> Is there an easy way to check what graphics driver X is using?
[23:08] <sebsebseb> Jordan_U: want to help me out here a little bit maybe?  or hiexpo ?  I tend to do computer with GB not MB :)
[23:08] <shaqfu> I'm trying to figure out why games in Wine run horribly slow
[23:08] <mneptok> jbl_: instead of clicking "Check for updates" just run apt-get.
[23:08] <frennzy> hi, ive installed Ubuntu 10.04 on my Old Desktop PC (512 RAM). Ive replaced GNOME with E17 and a los of apps. But the system still consumes about 350 MB of RAM. HTOP doesnt show what is consuming that amount of memory. Ive disabled lots of services
[23:08] <shaqfu> And I suspect it's my graphics driver
[23:08] <ikonia> shaqfu: that's wine - it's not %100 compatible with all windows software
[23:08] <abuayyoub> Hi, can someone help me please? I am having some strange problems. My computer ( sony vaio x64 Lucid ) has been bogging down lately like crazy. It becomes almost impossible to launch programs, for example it took almost 5 minutes to launch xchat and it keeps graying out every couple minutes. Also, the laptop gets so hot it's difficult to touch. A couple times I had to force reboot and when I did I got a disk error, it scanned the first ti
[23:08] <abuayyoub> me locked up then finally finished the second... how can I find out what is wrong with my system?
[23:08] <ikonia> shaqfu: best option is for windows software, use windows in my view
[23:08] <sebsebseb> Jordan_U: hiexpo  also maybe I should have got him to use gparted then finnish off in manual
[23:08] <shaqfu> ikonia: Not really an option :(
[23:08] <euthymos> frennzy: and why this is bad?
[23:08] <ikonia> shaqfu: really? no windows install ?
[23:08] <shaqfu> ikonia: Any idea why it has horrible write speed, even on a SSD?
[23:08] <shaqfu> ikonia: Nope
[23:08] <lunks> Hi, I have a motherboard with an optical spidf output, but no matter what I try, I can't seem to get Ubuntu to get any sound trough it. Any help?
[23:09] <jub369> Hi i need some help install UnrealIrcd3.2.8.1 i tryed useing the fourms on it none of them are working i am willing to let a person do remote desktop  it errors out and then when started if started i cant connect to it and i cant get configs right i running Ubuntu 9.10
[23:09] <frennzy> euph0ria_, cause im running out of RAM when I open any apps, and my PC slows down a lot
[23:09] <mneptok> abuayyoub: http://linuxatemyram.com
[23:09] <shaqfu> ikonia: Games run at 70% speed, it feels
[23:09] <ikonia> shaqfu: wine isn't fully supported for all windows software, it can have terrible performance
[23:09] <hiexpo> make partions on install
[23:09] <Uboy> sebsebseb: did u see this? http://img23.img98.com/out.php/i113220_terminal.png
[23:09] <sebsebseb> Uboy: yes hold on
[23:09] <Uboy> sebsebseb: ok
[23:09] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: trying to get it set up in manual :)
[23:10]  * shaqfu sighs
[23:10] <ikonia> shaqfu: have you checked in #winehq ?
[23:10] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: 12GB  / which he has done.  big seperate home next.  and 2GB or whatever he should have for his SWAP
[23:10] <shaqfu> I do have a Windows install, but it's on a 1080p monitor, and games upscale terribly to it
[23:10] <shaqfu> ikonia: Not yet; I will now
[23:10] <slow-motion> n8
[23:10] <ubutom_> abuayyoub, sounds like defective cooling
[23:10] <abuayyoub> it's acting like windows does when you get a really sick virus
[23:11] <abuayyoub> ubutom_, i would think this but the fan is blowing fine and everything has been running fine until recently
[23:12] <ubutom_> abuayyoub, but you wrote it get's unusually hot?
[23:12] <jbl_> abuayyoub, try to see if there are processes hogging the CPU/swapping a lot using the top or htop commands
[23:12] <abuayyoub> ubutom_,  yes, the system boggs down and get super hot. also on battery power I am lucky to get 30 minutes.
[23:12] <sebsebseb> ubutom_: you sure the hard disk is 320GB?
[23:12] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ^
[23:13] <Cynthia> The package 'xchat' fails to build from source here; running 'sudo apt-get source xchat && sudo apt-get build-dep xchat', then running 'make' in the right directory, gives me "error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘gtk_xtext_get_type’". gcc seems to think that GtkType is not a valid type. What's wrong?
[23:13] <Uboy> sebsebseb: yes
[23:13] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok lets try something then
[23:13] <Uboy> sebsebseb: what/
[23:13] <XP1> How can i upgrade in lubuntu? Do i just go to Menu > Preferences > Synaptic Package Manager > Edit > Mark All Upgrades ...
[23:14] <sebsebseb> mneptok: Can you look at the output for uboys RAM?  http://img23.img98.com/out.php/i113220_terminal.png  he should have 2GB swap yeah?
[23:14] <hiexpo> shoot got booted
[23:14] <jbl_> Cynthia, have you tried apt-get build-dep xchat beforehand?
[23:14] <Cynthia> jbl_: Yes.
[23:14] <ubutom_> abuayyoub, ok, have you tried doing a memtest?
[23:14] <Uboy> sebsebseb: my RAM size is 4GB but now the system show me 1Gb is using by SWAP area, is it true? becouse I don't have SWAP now and delet it!
[23:15] <jub369> hi i need some help install UnrealIrcd3.2.8.1 i tryed useing the fourms on it none of them are working i am willing to let a person do remote desktop  it errors out and then when started if started i cant connect to it and i cant get configs right i running Ubuntu 9.10
[23:15] <jub369> i useing unrealicd.conf from my old windows unrealircd so i dont gotta edit conenctionc changes also ( ALSO allowing putty and windows remote desktop along with ubuntu remote desktop for help )
[23:15] <lunks> Hi, I have a motherboard with an optical spidf output, but no matter what I try, I can't seem to get Ubuntu to get any sound trough it. Any help?
[23:15] <euthymos> hi edited /etc/fstab so that a FAT partition is mounted automatically at boot - it appears on the desktop, and that's fine. But when I double-click it, nothing happens. Then, if I double click it again, a window opens listing the files inside the partition
[23:15] <ne7work> !flash
[23:15] <sebsebseb> Uboy: you got 4GB RAM?  well I did suggest keeping the RAM that was made for you before after using the installer,  not to late to get it back
[23:15] <sebsebseb> Uboy: nothing is applied yet
[23:16] <abuayyoub> ubutom_,  no i havent. But I will. I was hoping there is some kinda utilty that can scan my compute rnad see what's going on...
[23:16] <sebsebseb> Uboy: however last time you set up yourself didn't you,  and didn't use the guided install?
[23:16] <ubutom_> abuayyoub, logfile viewer could be useful too
[23:16] <Cynthia> Uboy: does 'ls -l /dev/ramzswap*' give you anything?
[23:16] <Uboy> sebsebseb: & Cynthia wait plz
[23:17] <abuayyoub> ubottu, BTW I do alot of downloading threw USenet which is hard on the CPU but I have a pretty decent machine I got 4gb ram and a pretty good processor so I dont see how that could be the cause...
[23:17] <mxe5> Hi - I have the correct version of Java installed, restricted codecs, medibuntu, etc. But when I try to start Frostwire nothing comes up or starts - running Lucid, gnome - Any idea's? ?
[23:17] <Venim> anyone know why upgrading to the latest version of 9.10 from the iso install made fullscreening videos break on the ATI proprietary drivers?
[23:17] <ubutom_> abuayyoub, well, torrent is very heavy stress for hdd in general
[23:17] <Uboy> Cynthia > no such file or directory reported
[23:17] <ubutom_> abuayyoub, many little files that have to be opened and saved and so on
[23:18] <abuayyoub> ubutom_, im using a program called NZBget its a beast but its not running now and im still getting these problems after a fresh reboot
[23:18] <Cynthia> Uboy: what does 'swapon -s' say?
[23:18] <Venim> worked perfectly from the install with the same driver
[23:18] <sebsebseb> Cynthia: Hi :)   right well if you missed it, this is what we are doing.  He's going to re install Ubuntu with /  and swap and seperate /home.  and I want the SWAP to be the right size of course, and made last.  1.  /  which he done.  2.  /home  3.  swap
[23:18] <Cynthia> sebsebseb: oh
[23:19] <abuayyoub> ubutom_,  top says I have 3 processes running and 182 asleep
[23:19] <sebsebseb> Cynthia: so once I have the proper swap size,  the rest isn't that difficult
[23:20] <Uboy> Cynthia: it says there is /dev/sda3 with 1952769 for size and partition for type
[23:20] <sebsebseb> Cynthia: output of him doing free -m  http://img23.img98.com/out.php/i113220_terminal.png  I tend to do stuff in GB not MB :D
[23:20] <ubutom_> hm abuayyoub, dunno
[23:20] <Cynthia> Uboy: so you already have a swap partition... :)
[23:20]  * sebsebseb is thinking 8GB SWAP even if its a bit more than needed
[23:21] <sebsebseb> Cynthia: his old swap partition is still on there, untill things are applyed, but that might also be the wrong size
[23:21] <jbl_> abuayyoub, how do the %CPU and %MEM columns look like for the top 3 processes?
[23:21] <Cynthia> sebsebseb: Ok, I'll let you handle this
[23:21] <Uboy> Cynthia: But I'm deleted all partitions! 5 minutes ago, sepsepsep see that!
[23:21] <jub369> i useing unrealicd.conf from my old windows unrealircd so i dont gotta edit conenctionc changes also ( ALSO allowing putty and windows remote desktop along with ubuntu remote desktop for help )
[23:22] <jub369> oops
[23:22] <Cynthia> Uboy: perhaps Linux didn't see that yet, and you should issue 'sudo swapoff -a'
[23:22] <jub369> hi i need some help install UnrealIrcd3.2.8.1 i tryed useing the fourms on it none of them are working i am willing to let a person do remote desktop  it errors out and then when started if started i cant connect to it and i cant get configs right i running Ubuntu 9.10
[23:22] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok lets do this in gparted I think
[23:22] <jub369> there
[23:22] <sebsebseb> Uboy: gparted first then finnish off in manual install
[23:23] <Uboy> ok. sepsepsep 1- run sudo swapoff -a commadn and then run gparted?
[23:23] <sebsebseb> Uboy: or  lets leave room for 8GB  of SWAP (which may be a bit more than needed)
[23:23] <sebsebseb> Uboy: 4GB RAM you sure?
[23:23] <abuayyoub> jbl_,  looks like cpu 3,3,1 and %mem 0.7, 0.8, 1.0
[23:24] <bruenig> adf
[23:24] <Uboy> sebsebseb: with output of free -m command i thing it is 4GB
[23:24] <abuayyoub> jbl_, the program i was talking about nzbget was something like 17.0 /18 which still dosent seem like a whole lot.
[23:24] <sebsebseb> Uboy: the old swap that is currently still on there, did you make that yourself?
[23:24] <Error404NotFound> I am trying to convert a video from avi to mp4 using mp4ize script from http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/08/howto-convert-videos-to-ipod-smartphone.html , but it gives error "Unknown codec aac", i even tried changing it to libfaac, no use, also did ldconfig couple of times.
[23:25] <Killaklown> Error404NotFound: why not mencoder?
[23:25] <Uboy> sebsebseb: yes
[23:25] <hiexpo> mediubuntu repos
[23:25] <Error404NotFound> Killaklown, you mean i should change it to mencoder?
[23:25] <hiexpo> libdvdcss
[23:25] <sebsebseb> Cynthia:  hiexpo  How much RAM does he have? http://img23.img98.com/out.php/i113220_terminal.png
[23:25] <Killaklown> Error404NotFound: no use mencoder package... comes with mplayer
[23:25] <abuayyoub> Error404NotFound, use a program called Avidemux it is awesome for converting
[23:25] <Uboy> sebsebseb: the size of Ram is 4GB, > 3 GB system show me and 1 GB is using by old wsap
[23:25] <hiexpo> let me see
[23:26] <reverebeer> could anyone recommend a primarily keyboard driven window manager with at least some work being done on it these days?
[23:26] <Uboy> sebsebseb: i run the command 'lshw' and the output shows me 3approximately 3GB too
[23:26] <Killaklown> reverebeer: tiling wm?
[23:26] <hiexpo> 3 gig
[23:26] <abuayyoub> jbl_,  do you think its a hardware problem? the lappy is a work horse i download a whole lot but its still a good machine and under 6 months old. The fan seems like its blowing ok, and this problem dosent seem to happen all the time...
[23:26] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: ok how big should his SWAP be?
[23:27] <Killaklown> reverebeer: i would recommend musca
[23:27] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: 6GB?
[23:27] <hiexpo> i use 5 gig swap myself but most say 1 is ok
[23:27] <abuayyoub> sebsebseb, i think they usually reccoment someting liek 20 - 25% of your disk size.
[23:27] <Killaklown> sebsebseb: wrong
[23:27] <lietu> double the ram for swap is a very old advice... nowadays I'd say most people will run fine with 1-2GB, if that's not even too much
[23:27] <Error404NotFound> abuayyoub, trying avidemux
[23:27] <abuayyoub> sebsebseb, *recommend
[23:27] <sebsebseb> abuayyoub: 6GB  RAM for Uboy it seems, so  how much you think he should do for SWAP?
[23:27] <reverebeer> Killaklown, yea, wikipedia has a nice overview of those. thanks!
[23:28] <Uboy> hiexpo: the picture shown 1 gb is using with Swap and 3 Gb is free, it means 4Gb, true?
[23:28] <Killaklown> reverebeer: k
[23:28] <Cynthia> (Repeat from 15 minutes ago) The package 'xchat' fails to build from source here; running 'sudo apt-get source xchat && sudo apt-get build-dep xchat', then running 'make' in the right directory, gives me "error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘gtk_xtext_get_type’". gcc seems to think that GtkType is not a valid type. What's wrong?
[23:28] <jbl_> abuayyoub, I've had a similar problem and in my case, the gnome-do process was eating all my CPU and inducing the same symptoms you are seeing.
[23:28] <Uboy> GUYS MY SIZE OF RAM is 4GB!
[23:28] <duffydack> 256mb just for no reason
[23:28] <abuayyoub> Error404NotFound,  i use it it's a great program
[23:28] <ubutom_> is there a way to block unwanted authorize requests from russian spammers in empathy?
[23:28] <lietu> Uboy: swap is not using your ram
[23:28] <Killaklown> Uboy: congrats... we have a prize for you
[23:28] <duffydack> ubottu, dont use msn.
[23:28] <duffydack> doh
[23:28] <sweetpi> Uboy's ram from that image is 3gb
[23:28] <ubutom_> duffydack, it's ICQ actually
[23:28] <duffydack> ubutom_,  dont use msn
[23:29] <lietu> Uboy: you have 3G of RAM and 2GB of swap... if you have 4GB but the operating system says you've got 3, you're probably running a 32bit operating system
[23:29] <duffydack> ubutom_,  dont use icq
[23:29] <ubutom_> duffydack, wise advice
[23:29] <Uboy> lietu: yes I'm in 32 operating sysytem
[23:29] <lietu> Uboy: if you have a 64bit cpu, try a 64 bit version of the operating system to see if it can detect the 4GB
[23:29] <duffydack> ubutom_, actually I activated an old msn account the other day.  I had hundreds of requests..ugh.  Never had any such on google talk (gmail)
[23:29] <ubutom_> duffydack, every other client allows to block unwanted requests
[23:29] <abuayyoub> jbl_,  interesting. I also thought It could be something i installed I like to test out alot of beta stuff...
[23:30] <Uboy> lietu: no my CPu is 32bit
[23:30] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and if the CD  is all ok, and it doesn't boot then yeah 32bit
[23:30] <duffydack> ubutom_, true.  Pidgin does also
[23:30] <hiexpo> 32 bit works better on a 64 bit sys
[23:30] <ubutom_> well, seems I jsut have to use another client duffydack
[23:30] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok lets install this then
[23:30] <abuayyoub> is there a utilitly that can scan and tell me if I got a hardware/software problem?
[23:30] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: so  6GB SWAP or?
[23:30] <duffydack> I`m not really impressed by empathy, or ubuntu`s choice to use it.
[23:30] <hiexpo> i yse5
[23:30] <sebsebseb> duffydack: same here
[23:30] <lietu> I prefer to have all my 6GB of RAM usable ;) ... besides, 64bit is pretty good thesedays
[23:30] <sebsebseb> duffydack: altough I haven't tried Empathy for well over a year
[23:30] <hardcampa> lol why would you ever need 6 gb swap
[23:30] <duffydack> its so lacking is so many ways I cant count them
[23:30] <sebsebseb> duffydack: and when I did it was rather breif
[23:30] <Gryllida> I'm trying to follow http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Updating+Firefox?s=update+firefox&as=s#Manually_check_for_updates and step 2 fails because I didn't run Firefox as root, while according to http://kb.mozillazine.org/Installing_Firefox#Linux the installation directory is usr/local . How do I run Firefox as root? I tried gksu, but it didn't launch.
[23:30] <sebsebseb> hardcampa: thats why I am asking
[23:30] <hardcampa> I you actually need 6 gb swap you NEED more memory
[23:31] <sebsebseb> hardcampa: how much he should have
[23:31] <hardcampa> sebsebseb, ok well thing is, noone can answer that as noone knows how you use your computer.
[23:31] <abuayyoub> jbl_, is there a utilitly that can scan and tell me if I got a hardware/software problem?
[23:31] <ubutom_> yah, it'S pretty basic, pidgin as default was better imo
[23:31] <hiexpo> i use 5 because i operate many apps at one time but proballyfor him 1.5 would be ok
[23:31] <hardcampa> In general 512 mb or swap is enough
[23:31] <duffydack> sebsebseb, the notification sounds, what you can actually hear.. lol what a joke
[23:31] <lietu> Uboy: then there's Physical Address Extension that could allow you to use that 4GB of RAM, but I don't think it works THAT well, depends on the case I guess... and you might have to compile your own kernel
[23:31] <hardcampa> If your system starts to use more than that everything is going to crawl and you're going to hate your system anyway.
[23:31] <sebsebseb> Uboy: I think lets go with 6GB SWAP even though you don't really need that,  plus no one can give a proper answer for how much SWAP
[23:32] <hardcampa> But I mean you might want that if you are fooling around with images.
[23:32] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and you got the hard disk space
[23:32] <Cynthia> lietu: Uboy could also install linux-generic-pae
[23:32] <wad> mabahot
[23:32] <hiexpo> to much swap can cause the system to be slower
[23:32] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: how much then?  or shall we not bother
[23:32] <duffydack> Uboy, swap depends on your usage.  I run a netbook with 1gig ram and no swap.. I run a few apps here and there,  all good
[23:32] <lietu> sebsebseb: 1-2GB is fine for normal use
[23:32] <hardcampa> sebsebseb, look do you usually run out of ram?
[23:33] <sebsebseb> hardcampa: no
[23:33] <duffydack> Uboy, best way is to run all of your apps you use, see what swap usage is, then set it to that.
[23:33] <jbl_> abuayyoub, HW faults would tend to manifest themselves as system hang ups or random crashes. The symptoms you described make me think of a badly behaving piece of SW.
[23:33] <hardcampa> if not then give it whatever.. like 256mb would be enough
[23:33] <hiexpo> put 2 on it
[23:33] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok 2GB swap that should be ok
[23:33] <hardcampa> sebsebseb, there's also these tools that auto sizes the swap (if it's a file)
[23:33] <lietu> hiexpo: and the slowdown can be a result of the OS being optimized for low RAM or something, the use of swap can be tuned with swappiness
[23:33] <hardcampa> sebsebseb, depending on need
[23:33] <Uboy> sebsebseb ok
[23:33] <sebsebseb> Uboy: however make that last
[23:33] <hiexpo> lietu,  yes
[23:34] <Uboy> sebsebseb ok, now I'm in making 2nd partition for /home, what Type and what Place/
[23:34] <Gryllida> hello?
[23:34] <jub369> hi i need some help install UnrealIrcd3.2.8.1 i tryed useing the fourms on it none of them are working i am willing to let a person do remote desktop  it errors out and then when started if started i cant connect to it and i cant get configs right i running Ubuntu 9.10
[23:34] <hardcampa> sebsebseb, if you want check out swapspaced: Small, stable system add-on that continuously and automatically adapts available virtual memory space to your actual memory needs.
[23:34] <jbl_> abuayyoub, but you can try to check your RAM using the "Memory test(memtest86+)" grub option when you start your computer.
[23:34] <hardcampa> swapspace*
[23:34] <abuayyoub> jbl_, yea I think so as well. Like I said the system works fine, it gets a little hot when its working hard but. I am thinking it has to do something with the powermanager, I have had alot of problems with power mngt on this machine and lucid.
[23:34] <sebsebseb> Uboy: hold on figuring out the size for /home
[23:35] <abuayyoub> jbl_,  thats a good idea ill try that
[23:35] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: see my question?
[23:35] <abuayyoub> jbl_,  what about HW scan? is there  a prog out there that can give me a good scanning?
[23:35] <abuayyoub> lol
[23:35] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: I am finnishing off something here from last night,  so Uboy is the priority at the moment for me, when it comes to this
[23:36] <jbl_> abuayyoub, I'm afraid Google or somebody else in here might be more knowledgeable than me about that...
[23:36] <abuayyoub> jbl_,  well thank you anyhow :)
[23:37] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok
[23:37] <sebsebseb> Uboy: show me manual install
[23:37] <sebsebseb> Uboy: after you made /
[23:37] <Uboy> sebsebseb: Screenshot?
[23:37] <sebsebseb> Uboy: yeah
[23:37] <Uboy> sebsebseb: ok hold on
[23:37] <sebsebseb> Uboy: you already did it seems
[23:38] <sebsebseb> Uboy: try this as the size for /home it might be wrong
[23:38] <sweetpi> Gryllida: gksu /usr/local/bin/firefox
[23:38] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and then show me manual install.
[23:38] <Gryllida> I think I already tried it... trying again now
[23:38] <sebsebseb> Uboy: 221184
[23:38] <wad> I just tried to install Ubuntu 10.04 Server Edition (32-bit) onto a software RAID-1 (md). Everything worked right up until the reboot stage, and the box won't boot. It crashes to busybox, complaining that it can't find the filesystem. Should I be able to do this? The installer seemed to think it would work.
[23:39] <Uboy> sebsebseb here > http://img23.img98.com/out.php/i113300_2.png
[23:39] <Gryllida> sweetpi: indeed, it didn't launch
[23:39] <hardcampa> Guys, you got any good suggestions for a personal wiki? I just want it locally to write down ideas and programming notes.
[23:39] <sweetpi> Gryllida: whats the path to firefox bin?
[23:39] <Uboy> sebsebseb: I multiply everithning * 1024 !
[23:39] <sebsebseb> Uboy: yes thats what I am doing
[23:39] <Uboy> sebsebseb: I do that tnx
[23:39] <trism> Gryllida: that page doesn't say you have to install it to /usr/local, it says if it is just for you, you can leave it in your home directory, it just recommends /opt or /usr/local if you are installing for multiple users
[23:40] <sebsebseb> Uboy: x 1024 yeah
[23:40] <duffydack> my pay packet * 1024 = mmmm nice
[23:40] <sebsebseb> duffydack: your what?
[23:40] <Gryllida> trism: the installation instructions do say to put it to /usr/, and with a reason
[23:40] <Uboy> sebsebseb: my college Studing is about Electronics!
[23:40] <sebsebseb> duffydack: oh  £1024 ?
[23:40]  * sebsebseb sucks at Maths ,but can do partition sizes :D
[23:40] <Gryllida> trism: look at the second link I posted
[23:41] <trism> Gryllida: "If you are the only user, the extracted files could stay where they are", from the link you provided
[23:41] <duffydack> sebsebseb, you dont know my pay packet :)  but * 1024 its what it should be
[23:41] <trism> Gryllida: and where they are is in ~
[23:41] <Gryllida> trism: I'm.. not the only user.
[23:41] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok made /home yet?
[23:41] <Uboy> sebsebseb: ok, now the calculator show me 312320MB for 302GB for /home, tell me the Type (primary or logical) and the Option (begin or Enf)
[23:41] <hiexpo> watching wax on wax off good ole movie
[23:42] <sebsebseb> Uboy: thats not the number I have
[23:42] <Uboy> sebsebseb: u calculate for SWAP
[23:42] <sebsebseb> Uboy: what I tried to do was start with your actsual hard disk size -  14GB.  12GB is the /  yep.  the other 2GB is the swap
[23:43] <sweetpi> Gryllida: you do know to enter your user password for gksu right?
[23:43] <sebsebseb> Uboy: well whatever works, and you can see if it is right, before applying anyway
[23:43] <sebsebseb> Uboy: point is you want about 2GB for swap, doesn't have to be exact
[23:43] <Gryllida>  trism: I can elaborate... firefox's main files are the ones which should be changed only during updates, and whenever installing an addon / extension / running a java applet as normal user, there shouldn't be any access of them to firefox's installation directory. this is for better security, and now I just want to run it as root to update.
[23:43] <hardcampa> I always do / everything and a small swap normally. Don't see the point in making /home a separate partition (unless you put it on another bigger hd or something)
[23:44] <sebsebseb> hardcampa: or want to re install Ubuntu, like Uboy is about to do
[23:44] <nick125> Good afternoon. I'm trying to diagnose an issue with my CD drive and I'm looking for some help. It seems that it won't recognize CD-Rs, yet it'll recognize CD-RWs, DVD-Rs, CD-ROMs, DVD-ROMs, etc.
[23:44] <hajmola> hey, if I install tinyxp onto a USB stick... will it affect my Ubuntu install at all? I'm afraid of it writing over my bootloader or something
[23:44] <sebsebseb> hardcampa: and he may want to in the future as well
[23:44] <duffydack> I use 1052mb for 1gig swap.
[23:44] <Gryllida>  sweetpi: I tried gksu twice, first time it did prompt for a password, second time it didn't, both times firefox didn't appear in processes list, didn't launch
[23:44] <Uboy> sebsebseb: wait! u say me > 1. / 2. /home and 3.SWAP, now you tell me SWAP must have part of / ?
[23:44] <sebsebseb> hardcampa: plus it helps with distro hopping :D
[23:44] <duffydack> it says 1gig..so eh
[23:44] <sebsebseb> Uboy: no I didn't say that
[23:44] <hardcampa> I always completely format
[23:44] <nick125> cdrom_id says that it recognizes that there is some kind of media in the drive, ID_CDROM_MEDIA=1, but doesn't specify if it's blank or not, like when I insert a DVD-R.
[23:44] <sebsebseb> Uboy: by default its part of /, but we don't want that
[23:45] <nick125> I've tried earlier versions of udev and the kernel with no such luck. Any ideas?
[23:45] <Uboy> sebsebseb: so I can't Undrestand this > (03:12:46 AM) sebsebseb: Uboy: what I tried to do was start with your actsual hard disk size -  14GB.  12GB is the /  yep.  the other 2GB is the swap
[23:45] <sebsebseb> Uboy: 230 x 1024 =  the number
[23:46] <sebsebseb> Uboy:  minus  the number that is 14 x 1024
[23:46] <aurilliance> How can I merge my "Applications", "places" and "System" menu's into one menu that drops down when I click the ubuntu logo?
[23:46] <aurilliance> thanks
[23:47] <sebsebseb> Uboy: then the number you get after that.  221184  is probably the size the /home partition should be
[23:47] <sebsebseb> Uboy: unless I did something wrong
[23:47] <clayg> What is good cybercafe management software? Something where I can throttle users who connect to my wifi's bandwidth
[23:47] <paranoidphreak> hi everybody, i'm trying to edit the grub in ubuntu 10.04 but i cannot locate "/boot/grub/menu.lst" file. can anyone help me plz
[23:47] <Uboy> sebsebseb: 12 GB for / ,  2 Gb for SWAP, then 12+2 *1024 = 14336 so 320000-14336=305644 > the size of /home ? ok?
[23:47] <sebsebseb> Uboy: you can try with the number you got, and you can try with mine, it will show at the top who was more correct, and then when its ok, you can make the swap, and apply and finnish the install
[23:48] <aurilliance> paranoidphreak, /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[23:48] <sebsebseb> Uboy: well just try, and it shows as I said
[23:49] <aurilliance> paranoidphreak, if your using 10.04 it may have grub2 installed, check for the file I just mentioned
[23:49] <hiexpo> getting ready to go camping here for the fourth of July  weekend at don Pedro  every year event so if i miss something please repeat i will catch it thanx
[23:49] <aurilliance> How can I merge my "Applications", "places" and "System" menu's into one menu that drops down when I click the ubuntu logo?
[23:49] <sweetpi> Gryllida: gksu wont tell you if it cant find the program, or if its the wrong password. it will just exit.
[23:49] <Cynthia> aurilliance: Right-click panel; Add to Panel; select Main Menu, click Add
[23:49] <Uboy> sebsebseb: ok, so plz answer mu question dude > say Type (logical or Primary) and place (end or Beginning) for both /home and swap
[23:49] <sebsebseb> Uboy: / is fine.  make  /home next and leave  the size for swap,  then make swap,  finnish isntall, done!
[23:50] <Cynthia> aurilliance: there's Main Menu, which is one icon, and Menu Bar, which is [img]Applications Places System
[23:50] <aurilliance> Cynthia, thanks! I didn't know that applet existed!
[23:50] <sebsebseb> Uboy: /home is primary and at the beginning
[23:50] <erUSUL> aurilliance: there is an alternate menu you can add. right click on the panel choose add to panel. it is in the list of applets. then remove the original menu
[23:50] <aurilliance> erUSUL, thanks - got it now
[23:50] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and I guess you can't make swap primary and it has to be logical and I guess at the end
[23:50] <dawgs> i need to get some assistance installing an NVIDIA 370LP onto my freshly installed ubuntu 10.04 system pLEASE
[23:51] <aurilliance> dawgs, have you tried the hardware drivers application?
[23:51] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and show me manual install, before applying :)
[23:51] <sebsebseb> Uboy: before doing it for real
[23:51] <paranoidphreak> aurilliance: i found the file. should i edit "set default="0"" to something else if i want to load another OS by default?
[23:51] <Id3al> can I launch my ubuntu installation on hd2 from windows 7 installed in hd1 using a virtual box or is not possible?
[23:51] <Gryllida> sweetpi: ok, I figured out the path, it worked, but.... the application doesn't look any different, though I launched it as root, no warnings in its title or whatever. is it normal?
[23:51] <Uboy> sebsebseb: I can chnange the options for SWAP, what is better?
[23:51] <aurilliance> dawgs, It should be in System>Administration>Hardware Drivers
[23:52] <sebsebseb> Uboy: well they were suggesting 2GB for SWAP
[23:52] <dawgs> AURILLIANCE, it's not showing up under there, but the device is installed
[23:52] <paranoidphreak> aurilliance: i knew how to do it in menu.lst
[23:52] <ennui> does anyone know of a file browser that allows color coding of files/folders like in OSX's finder? I'm using nautilus right now and I must say the emblems just don't cut it
[23:52] <Uboy> sebsebseb: and Type & Place?
[23:52] <sebsebseb> Uboy: logical and end
[23:52] <aurilliance> paranoidphreak, I think so, if uncertain type "man grub" at a command line for help
[23:52] <sebsebseb> Uboy: I think you have to go with
[23:52] <sweetpi> Gryllida: not sure, ive never ran firefox as root.
[23:52] <Royall> once I edit .bashrc, how do I make the changes permanent (sic?)?
[23:52] <paranoidphreak> aurilliance: thanks alot
[23:52] <un214> Royall: they already are
[23:53] <Royall> ah, thanks
[23:53] <aurilliance> paranoidphreak, note that it's best to edit that file though (see the comments at the top of it)
[23:53] <Gryllida> sweetpi: I think the system should put huge warnings into title of graphical apps that are running as root
[23:53] <aurilliance> paranoidphreak, np
[23:53] <bastid_raZor> Royall: after making changes you need to source it.. source ~/.bashrc  ..and the changes last forever
[23:53] <sebsebseb> Uboy: for swap
[23:53] <erUSUL> Royall: once you save the file the changes will stick... if you want to modify already running shelss you have to source the file in them
[23:53] <sweetpi> Gryllida: you could always change the window title in about:config
[23:53] <aurilliance> dawgs, I"m not sure then sorry - hve you googeld it? are others having the same problems?
[23:53] <sebsebseb> un214: / and /home primary and begining,  swap logical and end,  that should work :)
[23:53] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ^
[23:53] <masteroffire> good evening/morning/what-time-ever everyone
[23:54] <aurilliance> masteroffire, , good morning
[23:54] <Gryllida> sweetpi: of course I could, but it would be same regardless it's running as root or not, which is what I expect the system to show by different titles
[23:54] <masteroffire> thank you, aurilliance
[23:54] <ocatacoo> does anyone know of a good resource on conguration of named.conf
[23:54] <orikon> does anyone know why filenames with special characters don't show up at all? I have some files with japanese characters I've installed all the language packs and restarted, but still nothing. seems to happen with other characters like umlauts, those don't show up either
[23:54] <Joran> hi guys, got a really weird problem hopefully someone will have come across because it's almost impossible to google about...
[23:54] <Uboy> sebsebseb: here > http://img23.img98.com/out.php/i113302_3.png
[23:54] <Gryllida> sweetpi: anything I gksu, it has same appearance, so that I can just forget that I am running it as root?
[23:54] <un214> ocatacoo: "The unix administraton handbook"
[23:55] <Joran> using hda audio, mic works but even with no headphones and no speakers attached, pulse is recording what is being output as well as what is being input
[23:55]  * aurilliance is afk
[23:55] <lunks> Hi, I have a motherboard with an optical spidf output, but no matter what I try, I can't seem to get Ubuntu to get any sound trough it. Any help?
[23:55] <sweetpi> Gryllida: about:config would only change it for the user running it(root in your case)
[23:55] <erUSUL> !away > aurilliance
[23:55] <sweetpi> Gryllida: no, gksu will not change the appearance
[23:55] <clayg> what is a good problem to put on a router that will limit the users per second download speed? like 50kb per sec per each user connected to a wifi connection?
[23:55] <Gryllida> sweetpi oh
[23:56] <omani> lunks, set volume in alsamixer?
[23:56] <Uboy> sebsebseb: manual install > http://img23.img98.com/out.php/i113302_3.png
[23:56] <erUSUL> clayg: the router is a linux box already installed ?
[23:56] <sebsebseb> Uboy: Ok that looks good, but I wonder why the swap does not show in the bar.
[23:56] <Gryllida> sweetpi it's potential security issue
[23:56] <clayg> erUSUL, it will be
[23:56] <ocatacoo> un214: do you know of a free resource
[23:57] <sweetpi> Gryllida: what is?
[23:57] <un214> ocatacoo: I assume you tried man named.conf
[23:57] <Gryllida> sweetpi: that apps running as root don't look any different
[23:57] <erUSUL> clayg: probably router oriented distros like ipcop zeroshell shorewall etc... make that easier than ina stock diestro
[23:57] <Uboy> sebsebseb: i think becouse that is very small
[23:57] <Uboy> :d
[23:57] <masteroffire> I've some trouble regarding Mozilla Thunderbird 3: I am here with some user who had Virus problems so I thought: Hey, let's try Ubuntu. Everything is fine so far, but I tried to copy the profile directory from a w*ndows partition... (this method worked fine for me when I switched to Ubuntu) but Thunderbird does not work right
[23:57] <maxxx> hi
[23:57] <Uboy> sebsebseb: so a question
[23:58] <ocatacoo> named.conf is bind
[23:58] <sweetpi> Gryllida: thats not a security problem, its a pebkac issue
[23:58] <Gryllida> sweetpi it means I can run file explorer or firefox or something as root, then forget, then hit a wrong button and erase some system directory or something
[23:58] <SlidingHorn> masteroffire, what's it doing incorrectly?  any errors, etc?
[23:58] <ocatacoo> it brings up coreutil
[23:58] <ocatacoo> long long man
[23:58] <lunks> omani, have already tried :P
[23:58] <star314> Hello, when unmounting my USB disc I'm getting the following error under Ubuntu 10.04: http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/589/usbumounterror.jpg ... is this a known bug?
[23:59] <sebsebseb> Uboy: you made sure you made the swap ok?
[23:59] <Joran> Gryllida: when you first run as root, change the settings so it does look different then.
[23:59] <bahadunn> can you deploy vps systems within a ubuntu cloud?
[23:59] <Uboy> sebsebseb: If in the future I wanna to use Windows as main OS, the /home partition does not shown in windows, what can I do then?
[23:59] <sebsebseb> Uboy: SWAP isn't a normal partition so that could be it.
[23:59] <Joran> Gryllida: e.g. in Mint, the default root nautilus' window bg color is set to red
[23:59] <Uboy> sebsebseb: yes swap is created on sda5
[23:59] <clayg> erUSUL, are those fairly easy to use? I'd like to have something that people can connect to my wireless router if i give them access but will be limited to 50kb per second speeds to one users can't slow everyone else down
[23:59] <sweetpi> Gryllida: i agree, but i also see no reason to run those as root in the first place
[23:59] <sebsebseb> Uboy: thats a good thing, Windows shoudn't really be alloweed to access the /home for security reasons,  lets say you get a proper nasty virus in Windows  for example that deletes your data, well then it will delete what is in /home as well