| stlsaint | greenjon: looking into python? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| stlsaint | greenjon: well pedro3005 is your man | 00:00 |
| pedro3005 | I think it's an excellent source of confusion and frustration | 00:00 |
| stlsaint | pedro3005: LOL | 00:01 |
| pedro3005 | and I do not feel the need for yet another beginners introduction to Python | 00:01 |
| stlsaint | pedro3005: today was my first time seeing it | 00:01 |
| pedro3005 | the only possible validity of such a page on the ubuntu wiki would be if it described the integration of ubuntu and python. then, it would be a great idea (if executed properly) | 00:01 |
| greenjon | stlsaint: i'll have to keep that in mind >:D | 00:01 |
| stlsaint | pedro3005: you ever work with zope3? | 00:02 |
| pedro3005 | never heard of that name | 00:02 |
| stlsaint | i heard a few weeks back then came across it today in the python wiki...hrm, might be something interesting | 00:02 |
| stlsaint | pedro3005: sweet.... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AllanDay | 00:03 |
| pedro3005 | stlsaint, that's not supposed to be there is it? | 00:04 |
| stlsaint | pedro3005: LOL..heck no!! | 00:04 |
| greenjon | pedro3005: is python considered "coding" or "scripting"? | 00:04 |
| stlsaint | greenjon: how dare you! | 00:05 |
| stlsaint | greenjon: simply python is a programming language | 00:05 |
| pedro3005 | greenjon, it _is_ a scripting language, but nevertheless you may call if coding... I don't see both terms as mutually exclusive | 00:05 |
| pedro3005 | s/if/it/ | 00:05 |
| stlsaint | greenjon: just about every language is a scipting language | 00:06 |
| stlsaint | NOT ALL are, but most | 00:06 |
| greenjon | hmm on another irc server i chat on, a guy corrected me and said it's scripting | 00:06 |
| pedro3005 | uhh | 00:06 |
| pedro3005 | stlsaint, the hell man? | 00:06 |
| stlsaint | que paso? | 00:06 |
| pedro3005 | there are lots of non-scripting languages | 00:06 |
| stlsaint | DANG IT PEDRO!!! | 00:07 |
| stlsaint | i said NOT ALL are sripting!!!!! | 00:07 |
| stlsaint | STAY WITH ME BUDDY!!!! | 00:07 |
| pedro3005 | most of the languages a normal person is likely to have ever heard of are not scripting languages | 00:07 |
| pedro3005 | C (and its variations), Java, etc | 00:07 |
| stlsaint | well: perl, python, ruby, php,..... | 00:08 |
| stlsaint | pedro3005: you wanna fight? | 00:08 |
| stlsaint | do ya...? | 00:08 |
| greenjon | lol | 00:09 |
| pedro_ | stlsaint, shit man, I didn't know you could disconnect people from freenode | 00:09 |
| pedro_ | I'll stay out of your way :| | 00:09 |
| stlsaint | THATS RIGHT! | 00:09 |
| stlsaint | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scripting_language#Types_of_scripting_languages | 00:10 |
| === pedro_ is now known as pedro3005 | ||
| pedro3005 | stlsaint, IT'S ONNNNNNNN | 00:11 |
| pedro3005 | according to the data in http://langpop.com/ , the three most famous languages are not scripting languages | 00:12 |
| * greenjon says in his best announcer voice... | 00:12 | |
| greenjon | LLLLLLEEEEETTTTSSS GET READY TO RRRRUUUUMMMMBBLLLEEEE!!! | 00:12 |
| pedro3005 | greenjon, anyway, do you know any language? | 00:14 |
| greenjon | pedro3005: used to work with vb 6 back in high school (8 years ago). haven't done any since | 00:15 |
| greenjon | i guess you could say i'm starting out fresh | 00:15 |
| pedro3005 | greenjon, at least you have the concepts, like variables, if/else, etc | 00:16 |
| greenjon | eh i didn't do too much work with it. just couldn't wrap my head around all of it :/ | 00:16 |
| pedro3005 | greenjon, I recommend this: http://docs.python.org/tutorial/index.html | 00:17 |
| stlsaint | pedro3005: i recommend the school of UBT!! :D | 00:17 |
| pedro3005 | and don't let any Perl dude tell you Python sucks because IT ROCKS DAMN IT | 00:18 |
| greenjon | hehe thanks pedro3005 | 00:18 |
| stlsaint | greenjon: theres a couple perl fellas in BT but dont let them itimidate you!! | 00:19 |
| stlsaint | greenjon: (they have some pretty serious itimidation powers!!) | 00:19 |
| greenjon | duly noted | 00:20 |
| stlsaint | good | 00:20 |
| stlsaint | alwasy stay vigilant | 00:20 |
| pedro3005 | yeah | 00:20 |
| greenjon | BT being beginners team? | 00:20 |
| pedro3005 | there might be a perl programmer in your household! ta ta ta taaaaa | 00:20 |
| stlsaint | greenjon: si senor | 00:20 |
| greenjon | k | 00:20 |
| greenjon | pedro3005: guaranteed to be no perl programmers around here lol | 00:21 |
| greenjon | i'm the only computer nut in this house | 00:21 |
| pedro3005 | greenjon, then you are safe :D | 00:21 |
| greenjon | :P | 00:21 |
| stlsaint | greenjon: i know how you feel | 00:22 |
| pedro3005 | +1 - only computer dude in the house | 00:22 |
| stlsaint | my wife runs ubuntu but she just wants it to be pretty, not code ready or anything,,,,just pretty! | 00:22 |
| stlsaint | and she doesnt know why she likes ubuntu aside from the fact that i like it | 00:22 |
| greenjon | stlsaint: lol i know what you mean. i still haven't convinced my fiancee to have a go with it even though she uses my laptop and i've got it dual booting xp and 10.04 | 00:23 |
| stlsaint | greenjon: touche, same here | 00:23 |
| pedro3005 | I installed ubuntu on an old laptop.. the folks use it now and then | 00:25 |
| stlsaint | pedro3005: hehe | 00:27 |
| pedro3005 | stlsaint, I've been needing to get back on that bot :x | 00:29 |
| stlsaint | crap, man your right, i need to as well...i left off with the plugin | 00:29 |
| greenjon | the two of you seem to be some busy people | 00:29 |
| greenjon | :) | 00:29 |
| pedro3005 | I sit around all day procrastinating | 00:30 |
| stlsaint | pedro3005: ive been procrastination all day today ! :D | 00:31 |
| pedro3005 | :D | 00:31 |
| greenjon | sounds like me lol | 00:31 |
| greenjon | and being unemployed at the moment doesn't help much | 00:31 |
| pedro3005 | we can start the procrastinating club... we'll start tomorrow | 00:31 |
| pedro3005 | :P | 00:31 |
| stlsaint | LOL | 00:31 |
| greenjon | hehe | 00:32 |
| stlsaint | greenjon: well learning linux will definately make you marketable! | 00:32 |
| stlsaint | greenjon: id say get yourself a server or vps and start learning linux administration! | 00:32 |
| greenjon | hmm that would make me quite marketable | 00:32 |
| greenjon | never have done any server work before | 00:33 |
| stlsaint | you can get a nice vps off fivebean site for 20 bucks a month if or get a small server for about 120 | 00:33 |
| greenjon | might be an interesting endeavor | 00:33 |
| stlsaint | greenjon: make look at jobs on craigslist just for giggles and see how all of them are looking for linux personnel | 00:34 |
| greenjon | lol nice | 00:34 |
| stlsaint | im so lazy its just stupid! :D | 00:36 |
| pedro3005 | stlsaint, ok, I'll work on the bot first thing tomorrow! | 00:40 |
| pedro3005 | well, no, I have to watch the world cup game. but I'll work on it _right_ after the game! | 00:41 |
| stlsaint | lol | 00:50 |
| pedro3005 | I just need to outline how exactly the permissions system will work | 00:50 |
| pedro3005 | it's a theoretical rather than practical problem | 00:51 |
| stlsaint | im telling ya man lets run sqlite3 | 00:52 |
| stlsaint | lite3 or whatever that built in sql is | 00:52 |
| stlsaint | i forget that fast...see lazy has its downside! :D | 00:52 |
| pedro3005 | do you know how to use it? | 00:52 |
| pedro3005 | I'd have to learn it | 00:52 |
| stlsaint | pedro3005: heck no, id have to learn | 00:53 |
| stlsaint | i know its effective though | 00:53 |
| stlsaint | pedro3005: maybe we should take this to -dev... | 00:53 |
| stlsaint | pedro3005: i got snova talking, maybe he can shed some light | 00:53 |
| greenjon | what kind of bot are you guys talking about? | 00:54 |
| pedro3005 | an IRC bot | 00:54 |
| stlsaint | greenjon: built with PYTHON!!! FTW!! | 00:54 |
| greenjon | hehe cool | 00:54 |
| greenjon | sounds like a fun project | 00:55 |
| pedro3005 | greenjon, yeah, learn python quick so you can join | 00:56 |
| pedro3005 | :P | 00:56 |
| greenjon | lol i don't think i could learn quick enough :( | 00:57 |
| stlsaint | greenjon: sure you can...its really easy | 00:58 |
| pedro3005 | greenjon, check it out https://launchpad.net/failbot | 00:59 |
| stlsaint | thats why i choose to learn it....heck i dont even really know it i just pretend to! :D | 00:59 |
| greenjon | lol | 00:59 |
| * phillw or you can learn a really useful language like php ---> runs :-D | 00:59 | |
| stlsaint | LOL | 00:59 |
| stlsaint | GET"EM!! | 00:59 |
| greenjon | ^^ | 01:00 |
| * phillw unexpected " at line 0 | 01:00 | |
| stlsaint | whats the output error? | 01:00 |
| stlsaint | phillw: particular objects i mean?? | 01:00 |
| stlsaint | :P | 01:00 |
| pedro3005 | PHP?!!!! | 01:01 |
| pedro3005 | you must be kidding me | 01:01 |
| pedro3005 | phillw, go back to MySQL and leave the _real_ coders alone | 01:01 |
| pedro3005 | :P | 01:01 |
| phillw | stlsaint: well, that sort of depends if what version of php.config you are suing | 01:01 |
| phillw | *using* | 01:01 |
| pedro3005 | phillw, talk about frivolous lawsuit | 01:02 |
| phillw | php runs in both foramts http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4#p77 kinda cute :p | 01:03 |
| phillw | *formats* | 01:03 |
| stlsaint | phillw: php geesh who are you!?!? | 01:03 |
| phillw | stlsaint: some one learning it :-D | 01:04 |
| stlsaint | hehe | 01:04 |
| phillw | not doing _too_ badly, got my 'AAA' badge for accessibilty, something I do not think python knows ;-) | 01:06 |
| phillw | http://mgjuddltd.co.uk/contact.php | 01:07 |
| zkriesse | phillw: PING!! Emergency! | 03:33 |
| ikt | what's up? | 03:43 |
| zkriesse | hi ikt ! | 03:44 |
| zkriesse | ikt: a forum error on phillw's forum | 03:44 |
| phillw | zkriesse: there is an error with the server# | 03:49 |
| zkriesse | phillw: i figured | 03:49 |
| phillw | I am the line with the server people now | 03:49 |
| phillw | 24/7 support :-D | 03:50 |
| zkriesse | phillw: sweet | 03:51 |
| zkriesse | that's rockin | 03:51 |
| === bgs100 is now known as bgs000 | ||
| zkriesse | hey PD187 | 05:32 |
| PD187 | hello zkriesse | 05:32 |
| zkriesse | PD187: sorry that i deleted switch2nix | 05:32 |
| PD187 | I should probably take it off my autojoin then. | 05:33 |
| zkriesse | PD187: :D | 05:33 |
| stlsaint | zkriesse: switch2nix? | 05:33 |
| zkriesse | PD187: open a pm with me and we can discuss this | 05:33 |
| zkriesse | stlsaint: yeah...i got rid of it | 05:33 |
| stlsaint | what was it? | 05:33 |
| stlsaint | for? | 05:33 |
| zkriesse | stlsaint: personal channel for me/friends | 05:33 |
| stlsaint | aye | 05:34 |
| zkriesse | stlsaint: due to my responsibilities in many channels i just can't manage keeping that up | 05:35 |
| stlsaint | zkriesse: how many channels do you have? | 05:35 |
| PD187 | I have 17 in this client... | 05:36 |
| PD187 | granted I never speak in most of them... | 05:36 |
| PD187 | 23 on the other :O | 05:37 |
| zkriesse | stlsaint: you mean how many channels do i join? | 05:37 |
| stlsaint | manage/own | 05:37 |
| zkriesse | Oh, I manage #ubuntu-beginners-wiki and that's about it... | 05:37 |
| zkriesse | i join/take part in 18 on freenode and 1 on GIMPNet | 05:38 |
| stlsaint | zkriesse: you a GIMP guru? | 05:39 |
| PD187 | Oh, manage/own? technically 2 for me then :-\ | 05:39 |
| zkriesse | stlsaint: I'm going to be working with the GNOME team eventually | 05:39 |
| stlsaint | gnome team as in doing what? | 05:40 |
| stlsaint | editing gnome? | 05:40 |
| stlsaint | zkriesse: ^ | 05:40 |
| stlsaint | aye nevermind | 05:41 |
| zkriesse | editing gnome docs and such yeah | 05:41 |
| zkriesse | sorry..i'm checking college courses | 05:41 |
| that_guy_ | hi, does any one here know how to install games from cd using wine? | 09:38 |
| that_guy_ | its star wars best of pc | 09:40 |
| that_guy_ | hello?? | 09:44 |
| that_guy_ | when i install star wars republic commando, and run it i get a blank pop up window... | 10:32 |
| that_guy_ | help!! | 10:32 |
| geirha | Never heard of that game. You might have more luck in #winehq | 10:36 |
| that_guy_ | how do i go there? | 10:38 |
| kermiac | that_guy_: these sites might help | 10:39 |
| kermiac | that_guy_: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=7255 | 10:39 |
| kermiac | damn.. | 10:39 |
| * kermiac goes back to watching tv | 10:39 | |
| duanedesign | hello kermiac | 10:54 |
| kermiac | hey duanedesign :) | 10:58 |
| kermiac | duanedesign: There hasn't been many U1 bugs the last couple of days :) | 11:01 |
| === slartibartfast is now known as guest999999999 | ||
| guest999999999 | morning - trying to chroot in a livecd and get chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error any help please | 11:06 |
| duanedesign | kermiac: are their any other packages you work on? | 11:46 |
| _ting_ | hi | 12:00 |
| _ting_ | anyone around ? | 12:00 |
| _ting_ | i have a question | 12:00 |
| _ting_ | why not can i do export in a script? | 12:01 |
| _ting_ | bash script | 12:01 |
| _ting_ | i have a few lines like this: export CFI_INSTALL=FULL_PATH_TO_WHATEVER | 12:02 |
| duanedesign | hello _ting_ | 12:21 |
| duanedesign | _have you you figured out your BASH script? | 12:26 |
| _ting_ | i am sorry duanedesign | 12:44 |
| _ting_ | i was out of my computer | 12:44 |
| _ting_ | how can i figure out my Bash Sell ? | 12:44 |
| === zz_severity1 is now known as severity1 | ||
| duanedesign | _ting_: when you execute a script it can not effect the enviroment of the parent. That might be what you are running in to? | 12:52 |
| _ting_ | yes | 12:52 |
| _ting_ | i want to run a script to create and update a few env variales | 12:53 |
| _ting_ | so is it not possible ? | 12:53 |
| duanedesign | _ting_: If you really want your script to affect the parent shell's environment, run the script as ./script | 12:56 |
| _ting_ | but i am running like this | 12:56 |
| _ting_ | using ./ | 12:56 |
| _ting_ | but not effect at all | 12:56 |
| _ting_ | that is why i am wondering what i am doing wrong | 12:56 |
| duanedesign | hmm | 12:57 |
| duanedesign | _ting_: try: source myscript | 12:58 |
| _ting_ | source ? | 12:58 |
| _ting_ | umm ok | 12:58 |
| === severity1 is now known as zz_severity1 | ||
| _ting_ | so instead of running myscript using ./, i have to run it using source ? | 12:58 |
| duanedesign | yeah the synonym for the source command is '.' | 12:59 |
| duanedesign | so instead of ./ use source | 12:59 |
| _ting_ | ok thanks | 13:00 |
| duanedesign | should do the same thing. Maybe one will work | 13:00 |
| geirha | source myscript and source ./myscript is not the same | 13:00 |
| _ting_ | ok | 13:00 |
| geirha | The first one will search for myscript in PATH | 13:00 |
| _ting_ | it is woring now | 13:01 |
| _ting_ | thanks duanedesign | 13:01 |
| geirha | The second will only look for it in the current dir | 13:01 |
| _ting_ | now my script is working using source | 13:01 |
| duanedesign | ok great! | 13:02 |
| _ting_ | now i can update and create new env. variales | 13:02 |
| === zz_severity1 is now known as severity1 | ||
| thomas_whitaker | hello | 15:07 |
| hobgoblin | hello | 15:07 |
| thomas_whitaker | new to the site. i'm looking for some help with 10.04 netbook remix. got myself into some trouble messing with auto login | 15:08 |
| hobgoblin | never played with the remix - but what have you done to the login? | 15:09 |
| thomas_whitaker | well i just tried to change it to autologin, as opposed to password required. after reboot got a whole set of errors : could not update iceauthority file, there is a problem with the configuration server, and nautilus could not create /home/thomas/desktop... | 15:11 |
| thomas_whitaker | thought i was on to something here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gconf/+bug/269215 but couldnt get the fix | 15:16 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 269215 in gconf (Ubuntu) "There is a problem with the configuration server. (/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256) (affects: 16) (dups: 3) (heat: 102)" [Medium,Incomplete] | 15:16 |
| === bgs000 is now known as bgs100 | ||
| hobgoblin | thomas_whitaker: have a look through this one - fairly old now - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1021106 | 15:20 |
| hobgoblin | but you can unset the autologin thing - gksudo gedit /etc/gdm/custom.conf and change the autologin line to False | 15:21 |
| thomas_whitaker | i managed to do that, changed it to false but still can not get log in to reappear. it automatically logs me in. not sure how? | 15:22 |
| hobgoblin | me neither then | 15:23 |
| hobgoblin | were all the errors you got permission ones? | 15:23 |
| thomas_whitaker | how can you tell if it is permission | 15:24 |
| hobgoblin | usually it says so I seem to remember - I have had the same thing in the past | 15:25 |
| thomas_whitaker | it doesnt say just grey box w/text and one option "close" for the iceauthority | 15:26 |
| thomas_whitaker | the nautilus error does say permissions needed | 15:27 |
| thomas_whitaker | i tried messing w/ sudo chmod a+rwx /tmp but kept getting error on that command, not sure why | 15:28 |
| hobgoblin | did you go to the link I gave above? | 15:29 |
| hobgoblin | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/dmrcErrors might also end up being useful | 15:30 |
| thomas_whitaker | i did go there but, doesn't look quite right. i don't think its dmrc either... did you click on my link? it explains my problem exactly if you go to comment #55 | 15:33 |
| thomas_whitaker | i can't seem to get access to /tmp | 15:33 |
| hobgoblin | did you try chmod and chown on the .ice authority file | 15:37 |
| hobgoblin | and no I didn't read the comment in the bug report - I rarely do - not so easy to see who's answering who there | 15:38 |
| thomas_whitaker | says ICEauthority 'no such file or directory' with chown | 15:45 |
| thomas_whitaker | is there any easy way to see what exactly my user name is? | 15:46 |
| === collinp is now known as Hellow | ||
| hobgoblin | open a terminal = the prompt should say something like bert@bert-something - bert's the username | 15:47 |
| thomas_whitaker | that's what i thought... this looks promising http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9016355 | 15:49 |
| hobgoblin | anyway - good luck - I'm off now - hopefully there's someone from the team awake - they are the voiced people - maybe ping one of them if no-one appears - but bear in mind we are all volunteers | 15:49 |
| thomas_whitaker | of course, appreciate the service | 15:51 |
| thomas_whitaker | is anyone able to pick up on this problem with me? | 16:02 |
| thomas_whitaker | my problem is described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9016355 but can't find fix | 16:13 |
| thomas_whitaker | anyone free to help? | 16:33 |
| holstein | thomas_whitaker: have you tried making a new user? | 16:38 |
| thomas_whitaker | no, how would i do tha | 16:39 |
| holstein | well, you should think about this as one of the last efforts | 16:39 |
| holstein | backing up your home folder | 16:39 |
| holstein | creating a new user | 16:39 |
| holstein | and deleting that one | 16:40 |
| thomas_whitaker | ok, this whole problem arose when i simply changed to auto login, ran some updates and booted. so really frustrating | 16:40 |
| holstein | yup | 16:40 |
| holstein | i read | 16:40 |
| holstein | im auto-login with no problems | 16:41 |
| holstein | but i did not encrypt anything | 16:41 |
| holstein | is this a notebook? | 16:41 |
| thomas_whitaker | yes | 16:41 |
| thomas_whitaker | toshiba nb 205 | 16:41 |
| holstein | did you encrypt the /home? | 16:41 |
| holstein | at install? | 16:41 |
| thomas_whitaker | i think so at install | 16:42 |
| thomas_whitaker | i saw the thread for that, but it looks way over my head, decrypting that is | 16:42 |
| holstein | just curious... why would you encrpyt the home, and later want to bypass that with auto-login? | 16:42 |
| holstein | thats going to be the deal | 16:43 |
| thomas_whitaker | i didn't know what it meant to encrypt the home? it was the default setting at install if i remember | 16:43 |
| holstein | AH | 16:43 |
| holstein | could be | 16:43 |
| holstein | its handy for noteboos | 16:43 |
| holstein | books* | 16:43 |
| holstein | security-wise | 16:44 |
| holstein | well, i bet that would work | 16:44 |
| thomas_whitaker | so i should give this a shot you think? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#How | 16:44 |
| holstein | that | 16:44 |
| holstein | then the user thing | 16:44 |
| holstein | good luck | 16:45 |
| holstein | thats a drag | 16:45 |
| thomas_whitaker | yea, it was a relatively fresh install so i might just start over | 16:47 |
| holstein | i was going to say | 16:47 |
| holstein | if you dont have any data your worried about | 16:47 |
| holstein | a fresh install is probably just as fast | 16:47 |
| holstein | and this time, you can read EVERYTHING during install | 16:48 |
| holstein | and google the terms you dont understand | 16:48 |
| thomas_whitaker | and it would probably reassure me of possible later glitches | 16:48 |
| thomas_whitaker | haha, that's good advice. so would you say encrypt the home? | 16:49 |
| thomas_whitaker | i'm not worried about sensitive data | 16:49 |
| holstein | its a security measure | 16:49 |
| holstein | if someone were to steal your notebook | 16:49 |
| holstein | if your going to have auto-login | 16:50 |
| holstein | you dont need it | 16:50 |
| holstein | i dont usually do it | 16:50 |
| holstein | but i would if i had sensitive data on me netbook | 16:51 |
| thomas_whitaker | yea, ok well thanks for the advice.. i had another question : does ubuntu require an antivirus? | 16:51 |
| holstein | ubuntu doesnt require anything really | 16:51 |
| holstein | you mean, is ubuntu a security risk out-of-the-box like windows? | 16:52 |
| holstein | something you need to add antivirus to? | 16:52 |
| thomas_whitaker | yes | 16:52 |
| holstein | i urge you to read, and do research, and make your own decisions BUT | 16:53 |
| holstein | ive read that linux boxes running with windows boxes on the same network | 16:53 |
| holstein | those people usually run antivirus on the linux boxes | 16:53 |
| holstein | to keep them from passing something to the windows boxes | 16:53 |
| holstein | do i run antivirus? no | 16:54 |
| thomas_whitaker | ok.. ill look into it. like i said, i'm new but really like the mission of linux, not to mention the look and feel of the os | 16:54 |
| thomas_whitaker | so much better than windows... if it weren't for these pesky glitches | 16:55 |
| holstein | it gets easier | 16:55 |
| thomas_whitaker | thanks | 16:58 |
| pjarnahom | how to configure broadcom bluetooth.... | 16:59 |
| duanedesign | pjarnahom: is it not showing up at all? | 17:13 |
| duanedesign | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup | 17:15 |
| === DarkwingDuck_ is now known as DarkwingDuck | ||
| === mohi57o9 is now known as mohi1 | ||
| _CommandeR_ | Anyone got any solutiion about wubi going into c:/Windows/sysnative/bcdedit.exe instead of system32 ? | 19:55 |
| _CommandeR_ | this = http://bayimg.com/LAncFaACg what do :( | 20:10 |
| phillw | _CommandeR_: I'd suggest heading over to http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=313 that is the section of the main forum dedicated to wine, I don't think too many on here have experience of wine | 20:12 |
| _CommandeR_ | phillw, Wine? | 20:12 |
| _CommandeR_ | what | 20:12 |
| zkriesse | WineHQ | 20:12 |
| _CommandeR_ | why wine :P | 20:12 |
| _CommandeR_ | its wubi :P | 20:12 |
| phillw | sorry --- blonde moment !!!! | 20:12 |
| _CommandeR_ | hahaah | 20:12 |
| _CommandeR_ | :P | 20:12 |
| * phillw makes note to read more carefully :-) | 20:12 | |
| _CommandeR_ | How could you even remotely think its wine :P | 20:13 |
| hobgoblin | is there not a wubi channel? | 20:14 |
| _CommandeR_ | nop... :/ | 20:14 |
| _CommandeR_ | posted recently in ubuntu forums hopes to get the wubi dev on it maybe. | 20:15 |
| hobgoblin | there should be a channel | 20:15 |
| hobgoblin | _CommandeR_: got a link? | 20:15 |
| thomas_whitaker | hey all, i'm back with a partition question if someone can help | 20:15 |
| hobgoblin | I can as I am back now :) | 20:16 |
| _CommandeR_ | hobgoblin, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9522206#post9522206 | 20:16 |
| edwin-sv | hi, someone have made work a plugin to see spreadsheet in IE6 inside Ubuntu (installed with PlayOnLinux)? | 20:16 |
| hobgoblin | _CommandeR_: don't bump it and if you've had no bites in 24 hours ping me and I will move it to general | 20:17 |
| _CommandeR_ | hobgoblin, sure will | 20:17 |
| hobgoblin | unfortunately it's all the help I can give you - as I wander off muttering about wubi | 20:17 |
| _CommandeR_ | hoes that it will get bites before the 30 or the first | 20:17 |
| _CommandeR_ | hopes ** | 20:18 |
| _CommandeR_ | haha :P | 20:18 |
| _CommandeR_ | getting to Roskilde Festival in few days :P | 20:18 |
| hobgoblin | it's an international forum - which is why we like 24 hours before a bump | 20:18 |
| thomas_whitaker | i have a dual boot windows/10.04 netbook remix , trying to reinstall ubuntu but can't figure out partition screen. how can i delete old version of ubuntu and replace with new | 20:18 |
| hobgoblin | thomas_whitaker: are you in the installer now? | 20:19 |
| hobgoblin | or at least the livecd | 20:19 |
| _CommandeR_ | he ran away | 20:24 |
| hobgoblin | he'll be back | 20:24 |
| _CommandeR_ | like all do :) | 20:24 |
| hobgoblin | simple enough issue anyway = even zack could do it without pointing at a wiki page :D | 20:25 |
| thomas_whitaker | commander, hobgoblin any suggesetions for me? | 20:25 |
| _CommandeR_ | ^ | 20:25 |
| _CommandeR_ | ^^ | 20:25 |
| Silver_Fox_ | I hope so | 20:25 |
| hobgoblin | thomas_whitaker: yea - are you in the installler now? | 20:26 |
| thomas_whitaker | yes | 20:26 |
| hobgoblin | assuming you are - please open a terminal and paste the result of the following to paste.ubuntu.com - give us the link | 20:27 |
| hobgoblin | sudo fdisk -l | 20:27 |
| hobgoblin | thomas_whitaker: are you at the partition stage - if so pick MANUAL and hang on | 20:27 |
| thomas_whitaker | if i open the installer i can't access the chat room | 20:30 |
| hobgoblin | not ethernet then? | 20:31 |
| thomas_whitaker | wait a tic, think i got it | 20:32 |
| thomas_whitaker | Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x22a222a2 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 9604 77142386 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda2 | 20:33 |
| thomas_whitaker | wait thats not right | 20:34 |
| zkriesse | !pastebin | thomas_whitaker | 20:34 |
| ubot2 | thomas_whitaker: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 20:34 |
| hobgoblin | thomas_whitaker: I think we been there before :D | 20:34 |
| hobgoblin | I gave you the paste.ubuntu.com adress a few lines up | 20:35 |
| thomas_whitaker | http://paste.ubuntu.com/456554/ | 20:35 |
| thomas_whitaker | sorry sorry | 20:35 |
| hobgoblin | thomas_whitaker: k -all cool - start the installer go to manual partitioning | 20:36 |
| thomas_whitaker | ok im there | 20:36 |
| hobgoblin | when you have the next window open - pick sda5 - then close to bottom of window - edit partition | 20:36 |
| hobgoblin | opens new window - use as drop down - ext4 - mount point drop down - pick / - then exit that window | 20:37 |
| hobgoblin | partition window refreshes - make sure that sda5 has ext and / against it | 20:37 |
| thomas_whitaker | i have change, delete, revert as options | 20:38 |
| hobgoblin | what? | 20:38 |
| hobgoblin | never had that - ever in hundreds of installs | 20:38 |
| thomas_whitaker | if i click manual partitions (advanced) then click forward | 20:39 |
| hobgoblin | thomas_whitaker: unless you'd already started the process and are now changing it I guess | 20:39 |
| hobgoblin | yea - must be in manual partitioning | 20:40 |
| thomas_whitaker | i have new partition table, add, change delete revert | 20:40 |
| thomas_whitaker | i shouldn't be there? | 20:40 |
| hobgoblin | thomas_whitaker: I have no idea what you did before you got there - you can just exit the installer and start again = though I'd appreciate a screenshot | 20:41 |
| thomas_whitaker | http://imagebin.org/103192 | 20:43 |
| hobgoblin | thomas_whitaker: go back and pick manual | 20:43 |
| hobgoblin | thomas_whitaker: ty for the screenie - picture paints a thousand words | 20:44 |
| hobgoblin | Bodsda: hi to you - long time no speaky :) | 20:45 |
| thomas_whitaker | hobgoblin: this is prev sn http://imagebin.org/103194 | 20:46 |
| thomas_whitaker | if i click manual it takes me to first screen shot | 20:46 |
| hobgoblin | mmm - k exit the installer then - start it up again | 20:46 |
| hobgoblin | thomas_whitaker: hang on - that is right - sorry long day - select sda5 and then change - I'm sure it used to say edit | 20:51 |
| hobgoblin | better to be safe in the end I guess :) you;d swear if I lost your windows ... | 20:52 |
| hobgoblin | ooh - run away :( | 20:52 |
| hobgoblin | welcome back - thought you hated me :) | 20:53 |
| thomas_whitaker | sorry hobgoblin, disconnected : ok so i selected change on the sda5 | 20:54 |
| hobgoblin | thomas_whitaker: in the use as box - pick ext4, in the mountpoint box pick / and tick the format box | 20:56 |
| thomas_whitaker | done | 20:57 |
| hobgoblin | exit - save or whatever the prompt is now | 20:58 |
| thomas_whitaker | ok back at main partition screen | 20:58 |
| hobgoblin | sda5 should have / ext4 and format enabled | 20:59 |
| hobgoblin | nothing else should have anything against it | 20:59 |
| thomas_whitaker | roger that | 21:00 |
| hobgoblin | k - forward | 21:00 |
| thomas_whitaker | so just to double check you know what im trying to do right? just replace an old copy of ubuntu with new | 21:01 |
| hobgoblin | we are installing the new one over the top of the old one = the original install was on sda5 - we have juts told the installer to format that partition, use it as ext4 (filetype) and install the root system to that partition | 21:03 |
| hobgoblin | thomas_whitaker: I was playing with the minimal today doing the same thing about 6 times ... | 21:03 |
| hobgoblin | kept entering at the worng time instead of tab ;) | 21:03 |
| thomas_whitaker | hob: this whole issue arose because i tried to switch to auto log in with a decrypted home file and the system didn't like it. any recc for log in specs | 21:04 |
| Bodsda | hey hobgoblin :) | 21:05 |
| hkc94501 | I want to mount a filesystem on /home but I am having difficulty getting a consistent copy of the current contents of /home onto the new filesystem. I used rsync -a to copy to the new filesystem, then I added the new mount to /etc/fstab but when I rebooted with the new filesystem in place Gnome reported inconsistencies and would not start. | 21:06 |
| Bodsda | hkc94501: define 'inconsistencies' | 21:07 |
| hkc94501 | I got some error dialogs popping up when Gnome was starting. I would have to do it again and take notes to say exactly what, sorry for the poor information. | 21:08 |
| Bodsda | hkc94501: no worries, the likelihood is that gnome is looking for things like Xauthority Xdefaults etc. | 21:09 |
| thomas_whitaker | hobgoblin : system installing now, thanks for your help, your a gentleman and a scholar | 21:09 |
| hobgoblin | thomas_whitaker: I did catch the scrollback on that - I was here for a short while earlier with you | 21:09 |
| hobgoblin | thomas_whitaker: you are welcome :) | 21:09 |
| hkc94501 | I'm thinking that I should probably do the rsync from single user mode (Does ubuntu do single user mode? I'm an old Unix guy and don't speak Linux too well.;-)) | 21:09 |
| Bodsda | hkc94501: it would be useful to have those error messages though. The issue is not with the destination of the old /home, but of the config files that it is expecting to be in ~/ | 21:11 |
| _CommandeR_ | Guys, how do you make an entry in grub to for example start in terminal mode only and launch a server application ? | 21:11 |
| hkc94501 | Bosada: thanks. I think I will try doing the rsync from recovery mode so Gnome isn't running. If I still have trouble I will come back with detailed messages. Many thanks! | 21:12 |
| Bodsda | _CommandeR_: you would change the default selection to be recovery mode (single user as kernel boot option) then launch the service/app as a startup program | 21:13 |
| Bodsda | hkc94501: see you soon :) | 21:13 |
| _CommandeR_ | hm but will this startup also go upp when i launch in normal mode Bodsda ? | 21:13 |
| Bodsda | _CommandeR_: quite probably | 21:14 |
| _CommandeR_ | Hm, but is there no way to make it when i only launch it in grub? | 21:14 |
| Bodsda | _CommandeR_: I would suggest not doing this from grub, but do it based upon user login, that way you can specify startup apps per user | 21:15 |
| _CommandeR_ | hm, because i want to make an srcds linux server on my laptop. | 21:15 |
| Bodsda | srcds? | 21:16 |
| _CommandeR_ | Valve Source server | 21:16 |
| Bodsda | *shrugs* :) - _CommandeR_ have you thought about having another installation on the same drive. That way you could have different startup apps based on grub selections | 21:17 |
| _CommandeR_ | Bodsda, hm, there should be a way though, My friend had a same server by just lauching it in grub menu that entered a terminal. | 21:18 |
| Bodsda | _CommandeR_: lets have a quick google then... one sec | 21:18 |
| Bodsda | _CommandeR_: does it have to be before the user logs on? | 21:20 |
| _CommandeR_ | would be great if it would :) | 21:20 |
| hobgoblin | I was in one that like recently on the forum | 21:21 |
| _CommandeR_ | about this ? | 21:21 |
| hobgoblin | http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1519013you might get some ideas following this one | 21:22 |
| hobgoblin | the one I was in I closed ;) | 21:22 |
| _CommandeR_ | you are gold :) | 21:22 |
| edwin-sv | someone have made work a plugin to see spreadsheet in IE6 inside Ubuntu (installed with PlayOnLinux)? | 21:23 |
| _CommandeR_ | hobgoblin, hm but still no answer to his questions. | 21:24 |
| Bodsda | this is rediculous.... if ubuntu didnt balls up the single user mode | 21:24 |
| _CommandeR_ | Bodsda, what do you mean ? | 21:24 |
| Bodsda | _CommandeR_: there used to be a default grub line that just dropped to text mode. No GUI, which would have been perfect here | 21:25 |
| hobgoblin | make a custom one perhaps then make it default | 21:26 |
| _CommandeR_ | in grub.cfg? | 21:26 |
| Bodsda | could do, if grub didnt balls up their config file :) | 21:26 |
| hobgoblin | Bodsda: works fine here :) | 21:27 |
| Bodsda | meun.lst is the old one, that was magic, grub.cfg is a mess and I can't enthuse myself to learn it | 21:27 |
| hobgoblin | _CommandeR_: no - make it in the 40_custom file | 21:27 |
| hobgoblin | Bodsda: I totally agree with that | 21:27 |
| hobgoblin | I've only bothered with a few bits of grub2 | 21:27 |
| _CommandeR_ | hobgoblin, Say what now? | 21:28 |
| * Bodsda would edit grub.cfg, but he loves messing with conf files | 21:28 | |
| hobgoblin | _CommandeR_: add it to /etc/grub.d/40_custom | 21:29 |
| hobgoblin | Bodsda: which is fine till there's agrub update | 21:29 |
| _CommandeR_ | what should i add there ? | 21:29 |
| hobgoblin | tyry adding whatever was the old line that Bodsda is talking about | 21:30 |
| Bodsda | baah, edit the main one :) | 21:30 |
| _CommandeR_ | Bodsda, what whas the line you were talking a but ? | 21:30 |
| Bodsda | _CommandeR_: the line already exists (it is called 'recovery mode') | 21:32 |
| hobgoblin | Bodsda: oic - you want the old one without the root menu | 21:33 |
| _CommandeR_ | Bodsda, recoverymode gives me a nice menu to select few things etc. You mean by Root "drop to root shell prompt" ? | 21:36 |
| hobgoblin | _CommandeR_: keep an eye out for drs305 on here - he might well know how to do that with grub2 if no-one else pisk it up | 21:40 |
| hobgoblin | I'm off now - night all | 21:40 |
| _CommandeR_ | night oi/ | 21:41 |
| Bodsda | _CommandeR_: yeah, that interactove bollacks is how they screwed that up, it used to drop straight to a shell prompt rather then that menu | 21:43 |
| _CommandeR_ | hm | 21:43 |
| _CommandeR_ | Bodsda, hm i did a menu entry, now i need to launch linux without gdm etc. | 22:03 |
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| hkc94501 | Bosada: Thanks for the help earlier about mounting a filesystem on /home. Problem turned out to be that there was an additional home directory on the mounted filesystem. So the result of the mount was not /home/username but /home/home/username so no surprise that things couldn't find their configuration files. Everything's working now that I removed that extra directory. | 22:30 |
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