[00:00] greenjon: looking into python? [00:00] greenjon: well pedro3005 is your man [00:00] I think it's an excellent source of confusion and frustration [00:01] pedro3005: LOL [00:01] and I do not feel the need for yet another beginners introduction to Python [00:01] pedro3005: today was my first time seeing it [00:01] the only possible validity of such a page on the ubuntu wiki would be if it described the integration of ubuntu and python. then, it would be a great idea (if executed properly) [00:01] stlsaint: i'll have to keep that in mind >:D [00:02] pedro3005: you ever work with zope3? [00:02] never heard of that name [00:02] i heard a few weeks back then came across it today in the python wiki...hrm, might be something interesting [00:03] pedro3005: sweet.... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AllanDay [00:04] stlsaint, that's not supposed to be there is it? [00:04] pedro3005: LOL..heck no!! [00:04] pedro3005: is python considered "coding" or "scripting"? [00:05] greenjon: how dare you! [00:05] greenjon: simply python is a programming language [00:05] greenjon, it _is_ a scripting language, but nevertheless you may call if coding... I don't see both terms as mutually exclusive [00:05] s/if/it/ [00:06] greenjon: just about every language is a scipting language [00:06] NOT ALL are, but most [00:06] hmm on another irc server i chat on, a guy corrected me and said it's scripting [00:06] uhh [00:06] stlsaint, the hell man? [00:06] que paso? [00:06] there are lots of non-scripting languages [00:07] DANG IT PEDRO!!! [00:07] i said NOT ALL are sripting!!!!! [00:07] STAY WITH ME BUDDY!!!! [00:07] most of the languages a normal person is likely to have ever heard of are not scripting languages [00:07] C (and its variations), Java, etc [00:08] well: perl, python, ruby, php,..... [00:08] pedro3005: you wanna fight? [00:08] do ya...? [00:09] lol [00:09] stlsaint, shit man, I didn't know you could disconnect people from freenode [00:09] I'll stay out of your way :| [00:09] THATS RIGHT! [00:10] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scripting_language#Types_of_scripting_languages === pedro_ is now known as pedro3005 [00:11] stlsaint, IT'S ONNNNNNNN [00:12] according to the data in http://langpop.com/ , the three most famous languages are not scripting languages [00:12] * greenjon says in his best announcer voice... [00:12] LLLLLLEEEEETTTTSSS GET READY TO RRRRUUUUMMMMBBLLLEEEE!!! [00:14] greenjon, anyway, do you know any language? [00:15] pedro3005: used to work with vb 6 back in high school (8 years ago). haven't done any since [00:15] i guess you could say i'm starting out fresh [00:16] greenjon, at least you have the concepts, like variables, if/else, etc [00:16] eh i didn't do too much work with it. just couldn't wrap my head around all of it :/ [00:17] greenjon, I recommend this: http://docs.python.org/tutorial/index.html [00:17] pedro3005: i recommend the school of UBT!! :D [00:18] and don't let any Perl dude tell you Python sucks because IT ROCKS DAMN IT [00:18] hehe thanks pedro3005 [00:19] greenjon: theres a couple perl fellas in BT but dont let them itimidate you!! [00:19] greenjon: (they have some pretty serious itimidation powers!!) [00:20] duly noted [00:20] good [00:20] alwasy stay vigilant [00:20] yeah [00:20] BT being beginners team? [00:20] there might be a perl programmer in your household! ta ta ta taaaaa [00:20] greenjon: si senor [00:20] k [00:21] pedro3005: guaranteed to be no perl programmers around here lol [00:21] i'm the only computer nut in this house [00:21] greenjon, then you are safe :D [00:21] :P [00:22] greenjon: i know how you feel [00:22] +1 - only computer dude in the house [00:22] my wife runs ubuntu but she just wants it to be pretty, not code ready or anything,,,,just pretty! [00:22] and she doesnt know why she likes ubuntu aside from the fact that i like it [00:23] stlsaint: lol i know what you mean. i still haven't convinced my fiancee to have a go with it even though she uses my laptop and i've got it dual booting xp and 10.04 [00:23] greenjon: touche, same here [00:25] I installed ubuntu on an old laptop.. the folks use it now and then [00:27] pedro3005: hehe [00:29] stlsaint, I've been needing to get back on that bot :x [00:29] crap, man your right, i need to as well...i left off with the plugin [00:29] the two of you seem to be some busy people [00:29] :) [00:30] I sit around all day procrastinating [00:31] pedro3005: ive been procrastination all day today ! :D [00:31] :D [00:31] sounds like me lol [00:31] and being unemployed at the moment doesn't help much [00:31] we can start the procrastinating club... we'll start tomorrow [00:31] :P [00:31] LOL [00:32] hehe [00:32] greenjon: well learning linux will definately make you marketable! [00:32] greenjon: id say get yourself a server or vps and start learning linux administration! [00:32] hmm that would make me quite marketable [00:33] never have done any server work before [00:33] you can get a nice vps off fivebean site for 20 bucks a month if or get a small server for about 120 [00:33] might be an interesting endeavor [00:34] greenjon: make look at jobs on craigslist just for giggles and see how all of them are looking for linux personnel [00:34] lol nice [00:36] im so lazy its just stupid! :D [00:40] stlsaint, ok, I'll work on the bot first thing tomorrow! [00:41] well, no, I have to watch the world cup game. but I'll work on it _right_ after the game! [00:50] lol [00:50] I just need to outline how exactly the permissions system will work [00:51] it's a theoretical rather than practical problem [00:52] im telling ya man lets run sqlite3 [00:52] lite3 or whatever that built in sql is [00:52] i forget that fast...see lazy has its downside! :D [00:52] do you know how to use it? [00:52] I'd have to learn it [00:53] pedro3005: heck no, id have to learn [00:53] i know its effective though [00:53] pedro3005: maybe we should take this to -dev... [00:53] pedro3005: i got snova talking, maybe he can shed some light [00:54] what kind of bot are you guys talking about? [00:54] an IRC bot [00:54] greenjon: built with PYTHON!!! FTW!! [00:54] hehe cool [00:55] sounds like a fun project [00:56] greenjon, yeah, learn python quick so you can join [00:56] :P [00:57] lol i don't think i could learn quick enough :( [00:58] greenjon: sure you can...its really easy [00:59] greenjon, check it out https://launchpad.net/failbot [00:59] thats why i choose to learn it....heck i dont even really know it i just pretend to! :D [00:59] lol [00:59] * phillw or you can learn a really useful language like php ---> runs :-D [00:59] LOL [00:59] GET"EM!! [01:00] ^^ [01:00] * phillw unexpected " at line 0 [01:00] whats the output error? [01:00] phillw: particular objects i mean?? [01:00] :P [01:01] PHP?!!!! [01:01] you must be kidding me [01:01] phillw, go back to MySQL and leave the _real_ coders alone [01:01] :P [01:01] stlsaint: well, that sort of depends if what version of php.config you are suing [01:01] *using* [01:02] phillw, talk about frivolous lawsuit [01:03] php runs in both foramts http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4#p77 kinda cute :p [01:03] *formats* [01:03] phillw: php geesh who are you!?!? [01:04] stlsaint: some one learning it :-D [01:04] hehe [01:06] not doing _too_ badly, got my 'AAA' badge for accessibilty, something I do not think python knows ;-) [01:07] http://mgjuddltd.co.uk/contact.php [03:33] phillw: PING!! Emergency! [03:43] what's up? [03:44] hi ikt ! [03:44] ikt: a forum error on phillw's forum [03:49] zkriesse: there is an error with the server# [03:49] phillw: i figured [03:49] I am the line with the server people now [03:50] 24/7 support :-D [03:51] phillw: sweet [03:51] that's rockin === bgs100 is now known as bgs000 [05:32] hey PD187 [05:32] hello zkriesse [05:32] PD187: sorry that i deleted switch2nix [05:33] I should probably take it off my autojoin then. [05:33] PD187: :D [05:33] zkriesse: switch2nix? [05:33] PD187: open a pm with me and we can discuss this [05:33] stlsaint: yeah...i got rid of it [05:33] what was it? [05:33] for? [05:33] stlsaint: personal channel for me/friends [05:34] aye [05:35] stlsaint: due to my responsibilities in many channels i just can't manage keeping that up [05:35] zkriesse: how many channels do you have? [05:36] I have 17 in this client... [05:36] granted I never speak in most of them... [05:37] 23 on the other :O [05:37] stlsaint: you mean how many channels do i join? [05:37] manage/own [05:37] Oh, I manage #ubuntu-beginners-wiki and that's about it... [05:38] i join/take part in 18 on freenode and 1 on GIMPNet [05:39] zkriesse: you a GIMP guru? [05:39] Oh, manage/own? technically 2 for me then :-\ [05:39] stlsaint: I'm going to be working with the GNOME team eventually [05:40] gnome team as in doing what? [05:40] editing gnome? [05:40] zkriesse: ^ [05:41] aye nevermind [05:41] editing gnome docs and such yeah [05:41] sorry..i'm checking college courses [09:38] hi, does any one here know how to install games from cd using wine? [09:40] its star wars best of pc [09:44] hello?? [10:32] when i install star wars republic commando, and run it i get a blank pop up window... [10:32] help!! [10:36] Never heard of that game. You might have more luck in #winehq [10:38] how do i go there? [10:39] that_guy_: these sites might help [10:39] that_guy_: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=7255 [10:39] damn.. [10:39] * kermiac goes back to watching tv [10:54] hello kermiac [10:58] hey duanedesign :) [11:01] duanedesign: There hasn't been many U1 bugs the last couple of days :) === slartibartfast is now known as guest999999999 [11:06] morning - trying to chroot in a livecd and get chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error any help please [11:46] kermiac: are their any other packages you work on? [12:00] <_ting_> hi [12:00] <_ting_> anyone around ? [12:00] <_ting_> i have a question [12:01] <_ting_> why not can i do export in a script? [12:01] <_ting_> bash script [12:02] <_ting_> i have a few lines like this: export CFI_INSTALL=FULL_PATH_TO_WHATEVER [12:21] hello _ting_ [12:26] _have you you figured out your BASH script? [12:44] <_ting_> i am sorry duanedesign [12:44] <_ting_> i was out of my computer [12:44] <_ting_> how can i figure out my Bash Sell ? === zz_severity1 is now known as severity1 [12:52] _ting_: when you execute a script it can not effect the enviroment of the parent. That might be what you are running in to? [12:52] <_ting_> yes [12:53] <_ting_> i want to run a script to create and update a few env variales [12:53] <_ting_> so is it not possible ? [12:56] _ting_: If you really want your script to affect the parent shell's environment, run the script as ./script [12:56] <_ting_> but i am running like this [12:56] <_ting_> using ./ [12:56] <_ting_> but not effect at all [12:56] <_ting_> that is why i am wondering what i am doing wrong [12:57] hmm [12:58] _ting_: try: source myscript [12:58] <_ting_> source ? [12:58] <_ting_> umm ok === severity1 is now known as zz_severity1 [12:58] <_ting_> so instead of running myscript using ./, i have to run it using source ? [12:59] yeah the synonym for the source command is '.' [12:59] so instead of ./ use source [13:00] <_ting_> ok thanks [13:00] should do the same thing. Maybe one will work [13:00] source myscript and source ./myscript is not the same [13:00] <_ting_> ok [13:00] The first one will search for myscript in PATH [13:01] <_ting_> it is woring now [13:01] <_ting_> thanks duanedesign [13:01] The second will only look for it in the current dir [13:01] <_ting_> now my script is working using source [13:02] ok great! [13:02] <_ting_> now i can update and create new env. variales === zz_severity1 is now known as severity1 [15:07] hello [15:07] hello [15:08] new to the site. i'm looking for some help with 10.04 netbook remix. got myself into some trouble messing with auto login [15:09] never played with the remix - but what have you done to the login? [15:11] well i just tried to change it to autologin, as opposed to password required. after reboot got a whole set of errors : could not update iceauthority file, there is a problem with the configuration server, and nautilus could not create /home/thomas/desktop... [15:16] thought i was on to something here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gconf/+bug/269215 but couldnt get the fix [15:16] Launchpad bug 269215 in gconf (Ubuntu) "There is a problem with the configuration server. (/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256) (affects: 16) (dups: 3) (heat: 102)" [Medium,Incomplete] === bgs000 is now known as bgs100 [15:20] thomas_whitaker: have a look through this one - fairly old now - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1021106 [15:21] but you can unset the autologin thing - gksudo gedit /etc/gdm/custom.conf and change the autologin line to False [15:22] i managed to do that, changed it to false but still can not get log in to reappear. it automatically logs me in. not sure how? [15:23] me neither then [15:23] were all the errors you got permission ones? [15:24] how can you tell if it is permission [15:25] usually it says so I seem to remember - I have had the same thing in the past [15:26] it doesnt say just grey box w/text and one option "close" for the iceauthority [15:27] the nautilus error does say permissions needed [15:28] i tried messing w/ sudo chmod a+rwx /tmp but kept getting error on that command, not sure why [15:29] did you go to the link I gave above? [15:30] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/dmrcErrors might also end up being useful [15:33] i did go there but, doesn't look quite right. i don't think its dmrc either... did you click on my link? it explains my problem exactly if you go to comment #55 [15:33] i can't seem to get access to /tmp [15:37] did you try chmod and chown on the .ice authority file [15:38] and no I didn't read the comment in the bug report - I rarely do - not so easy to see who's answering who there [15:45] says ICEauthority 'no such file or directory' with chown [15:46] is there any easy way to see what exactly my user name is? === collinp is now known as Hellow [15:47] open a terminal = the prompt should say something like bert@bert-something - bert's the username [15:49] that's what i thought... this looks promising http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9016355 [15:49] anyway - good luck - I'm off now - hopefully there's someone from the team awake - they are the voiced people - maybe ping one of them if no-one appears - but bear in mind we are all volunteers [15:51] of course, appreciate the service [16:02] is anyone able to pick up on this problem with me? [16:13] my problem is described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9016355 but can't find fix [16:33] anyone free to help? [16:38] thomas_whitaker: have you tried making a new user? [16:39] no, how would i do tha [16:39] well, you should think about this as one of the last efforts [16:39] backing up your home folder [16:39] creating a new user [16:40] and deleting that one [16:40] ok, this whole problem arose when i simply changed to auto login, ran some updates and booted. so really frustrating [16:40] yup [16:40] i read [16:41] im auto-login with no problems [16:41] but i did not encrypt anything [16:41] is this a notebook? [16:41] yes [16:41] toshiba nb 205 [16:41] did you encrypt the /home? [16:41] at install? [16:42] i think so at install [16:42] i saw the thread for that, but it looks way over my head, decrypting that is [16:42] just curious... why would you encrpyt the home, and later want to bypass that with auto-login? [16:43] thats going to be the deal [16:43] i didn't know what it meant to encrypt the home? it was the default setting at install if i remember [16:43] AH [16:43] could be [16:43] its handy for noteboos [16:43] books* [16:44] security-wise [16:44] well, i bet that would work [16:44] so i should give this a shot you think? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#How [16:44] that [16:44] then the user thing [16:45] good luck [16:45] thats a drag [16:47] yea, it was a relatively fresh install so i might just start over [16:47] i was going to say [16:47] if you dont have any data your worried about [16:47] a fresh install is probably just as fast [16:48] and this time, you can read EVERYTHING during install [16:48] and google the terms you dont understand [16:48] and it would probably reassure me of possible later glitches [16:49] haha, that's good advice. so would you say encrypt the home? [16:49] i'm not worried about sensitive data [16:49] its a security measure [16:49] if someone were to steal your notebook [16:50] if your going to have auto-login [16:50] you dont need it [16:50] i dont usually do it [16:51] but i would if i had sensitive data on me netbook [16:51] yea, ok well thanks for the advice.. i had another question : does ubuntu require an antivirus? [16:51] ubuntu doesnt require anything really [16:52] you mean, is ubuntu a security risk out-of-the-box like windows? [16:52] something you need to add antivirus to? [16:52] yes [16:53] i urge you to read, and do research, and make your own decisions BUT [16:53] ive read that linux boxes running with windows boxes on the same network [16:53] those people usually run antivirus on the linux boxes [16:53] to keep them from passing something to the windows boxes [16:54] do i run antivirus? no [16:54] ok.. ill look into it. like i said, i'm new but really like the mission of linux, not to mention the look and feel of the os [16:55] so much better than windows... if it weren't for these pesky glitches [16:55] it gets easier [16:58] thanks [16:59] how to configure broadcom bluetooth.... [17:13] pjarnahom: is it not showing up at all? [17:15] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup === DarkwingDuck_ is now known as DarkwingDuck === mohi57o9 is now known as mohi1 [19:55] <_CommandeR_> Anyone got any solutiion about wubi going into c:/Windows/sysnative/bcdedit.exe instead of system32 ? [20:10] <_CommandeR_> this = http://bayimg.com/LAncFaACg what do :( [20:12] _CommandeR_: I'd suggest heading over to http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=313 that is the section of the main forum dedicated to wine, I don't think too many on here have experience of wine [20:12] <_CommandeR_> phillw, Wine? [20:12] <_CommandeR_> what [20:12] WineHQ [20:12] <_CommandeR_> why wine :P [20:12] <_CommandeR_> its wubi :P [20:12] sorry --- blonde moment !!!! [20:12] <_CommandeR_> hahaah [20:12] <_CommandeR_> :P [20:12] * phillw makes note to read more carefully :-) [20:13] <_CommandeR_> How could you even remotely think its wine :P [20:14] is there not a wubi channel? [20:14] <_CommandeR_> nop... :/ [20:15] <_CommandeR_> posted recently in ubuntu forums hopes to get the wubi dev on it maybe. [20:15] there should be a channel [20:15] _CommandeR_: got a link? [20:15] hey all, i'm back with a partition question if someone can help [20:16] I can as I am back now :) [20:16] <_CommandeR_> hobgoblin, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9522206#post9522206 [20:16] hi, someone have made work a plugin to see spreadsheet in IE6 inside Ubuntu (installed with PlayOnLinux)? [20:17] _CommandeR_: don't bump it and if you've had no bites in 24 hours ping me and I will move it to general [20:17] <_CommandeR_> hobgoblin, sure will [20:17] unfortunately it's all the help I can give you - as I wander off muttering about wubi [20:17] <_CommandeR_> hoes that it will get bites before the 30 or the first [20:18] <_CommandeR_> hopes ** [20:18] <_CommandeR_> haha :P [20:18] <_CommandeR_> getting to Roskilde Festival in few days :P [20:18] it's an international forum - which is why we like 24 hours before a bump [20:18] i have a dual boot windows/10.04 netbook remix , trying to reinstall ubuntu but can't figure out partition screen. how can i delete old version of ubuntu and replace with new [20:19] thomas_whitaker: are you in the installer now? [20:19] or at least the livecd [20:24] <_CommandeR_> he ran away [20:24] he'll be back [20:24] <_CommandeR_> like all do :) [20:25] simple enough issue anyway = even zack could do it without pointing at a wiki page :D [20:25] commander, hobgoblin any suggesetions for me? [20:25] <_CommandeR_> ^ [20:25] <_CommandeR_> ^^ [20:25] I hope so [20:26] thomas_whitaker: yea - are you in the installler now? [20:26] yes [20:27] assuming you are - please open a terminal and paste the result of the following to paste.ubuntu.com - give us the link [20:27] sudo fdisk -l [20:27] thomas_whitaker: are you at the partition stage - if so pick MANUAL and hang on [20:30] if i open the installer i can't access the chat room [20:31] not ethernet then? [20:32] wait a tic, think i got it [20:33] Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x22a222a2 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 9604 77142386 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda2 [20:34] wait thats not right [20:34] !pastebin | thomas_whitaker [20:34] thomas_whitaker: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [20:34] thomas_whitaker: I think we been there before :D [20:35] I gave you the paste.ubuntu.com adress a few lines up [20:35] http://paste.ubuntu.com/456554/ [20:35] sorry sorry [20:36] thomas_whitaker: k -all cool - start the installer go to manual partitioning [20:36] ok im there [20:36] when you have the next window open - pick sda5 - then close to bottom of window - edit partition [20:37] opens new window - use as drop down - ext4 - mount point drop down - pick / - then exit that window [20:37] partition window refreshes - make sure that sda5 has ext and / against it [20:38] i have change, delete, revert as options [20:38] what? [20:38] never had that - ever in hundreds of installs [20:39] if i click manual partitions (advanced) then click forward [20:39] thomas_whitaker: unless you'd already started the process and are now changing it I guess [20:40] yea - must be in manual partitioning [20:40] i have new partition table, add, change delete revert [20:40] i shouldn't be there? [20:41] thomas_whitaker: I have no idea what you did before you got there - you can just exit the installer and start again = though I'd appreciate a screenshot [20:43] http://imagebin.org/103192 [20:43] thomas_whitaker: go back and pick manual [20:44] thomas_whitaker: ty for the screenie - picture paints a thousand words [20:45] Bodsda: hi to you - long time no speaky :) [20:46] hobgoblin: this is prev sn http://imagebin.org/103194 [20:46] if i click manual it takes me to first screen shot [20:46] mmm - k exit the installer then - start it up again [20:51] thomas_whitaker: hang on - that is right - sorry long day - select sda5 and then change - I'm sure it used to say edit [20:52] better to be safe in the end I guess :) you;d swear if I lost your windows ... [20:52] ooh - run away :( [20:53] welcome back - thought you hated me :) [20:54] sorry hobgoblin, disconnected : ok so i selected change on the sda5 [20:56] thomas_whitaker: in the use as box - pick ext4, in the mountpoint box pick / and tick the format box [20:57] done [20:58] exit - save or whatever the prompt is now [20:58] ok back at main partition screen [20:59] sda5 should have / ext4 and format enabled [20:59] nothing else should have anything against it [21:00] roger that [21:00] k - forward [21:01] so just to double check you know what im trying to do right? just replace an old copy of ubuntu with new [21:03] we are installing the new one over the top of the old one = the original install was on sda5 - we have juts told the installer to format that partition, use it as ext4 (filetype) and install the root system to that partition [21:03] thomas_whitaker: I was playing with the minimal today doing the same thing about 6 times ... [21:03] kept entering at the worng time instead of tab ;) [21:04] hob: this whole issue arose because i tried to switch to auto log in with a decrypted home file and the system didn't like it. any recc for log in specs [21:05] hey hobgoblin :) [21:06] I want to mount a filesystem on /home but I am having difficulty getting a consistent copy of the current contents of /home onto the new filesystem. I used rsync -a to copy to the new filesystem, then I added the new mount to /etc/fstab but when I rebooted with the new filesystem in place Gnome reported inconsistencies and would not start. [21:07] hkc94501: define 'inconsistencies' [21:08] I got some error dialogs popping up when Gnome was starting. I would have to do it again and take notes to say exactly what, sorry for the poor information. [21:09] hkc94501: no worries, the likelihood is that gnome is looking for things like Xauthority Xdefaults etc. [21:09] hobgoblin : system installing now, thanks for your help, your a gentleman and a scholar [21:09] thomas_whitaker: I did catch the scrollback on that - I was here for a short while earlier with you [21:09] thomas_whitaker: you are welcome :) [21:09] I'm thinking that I should probably do the rsync from single user mode (Does ubuntu do single user mode? I'm an old Unix guy and don't speak Linux too well.;-)) [21:11] hkc94501: it would be useful to have those error messages though. The issue is not with the destination of the old /home, but of the config files that it is expecting to be in ~/ [21:11] <_CommandeR_> Guys, how do you make an entry in grub to for example start in terminal mode only and launch a server application ? [21:12] Bosada: thanks. I think I will try doing the rsync from recovery mode so Gnome isn't running. If I still have trouble I will come back with detailed messages. Many thanks! [21:13] _CommandeR_: you would change the default selection to be recovery mode (single user as kernel boot option) then launch the service/app as a startup program [21:13] hkc94501: see you soon :) [21:13] <_CommandeR_> hm but will this startup also go upp when i launch in normal mode Bodsda ? [21:14] _CommandeR_: quite probably [21:14] <_CommandeR_> Hm, but is there no way to make it when i only launch it in grub? [21:15] _CommandeR_: I would suggest not doing this from grub, but do it based upon user login, that way you can specify startup apps per user [21:15] <_CommandeR_> hm, because i want to make an srcds linux server on my laptop. [21:16] srcds? [21:16] <_CommandeR_> Valve Source server [21:17] *shrugs* :) - _CommandeR_ have you thought about having another installation on the same drive. That way you could have different startup apps based on grub selections [21:18] <_CommandeR_> Bodsda, hm, there should be a way though, My friend had a same server by just lauching it in grub menu that entered a terminal. [21:18] _CommandeR_: lets have a quick google then... one sec [21:20] _CommandeR_: does it have to be before the user logs on? [21:20] <_CommandeR_> would be great if it would :) [21:21] I was in one that like recently on the forum [21:21] <_CommandeR_> about this ? [21:22] http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1519013you might get some ideas following this one [21:22]