[00:39] <dkulchenko> If I've been experiencing frequent kernel panics since I switched to Lucid, what should I file the bug against?
[00:46] <micahg> dkulchenko: linux
[00:50] <dkulchenko> micahg: thanks
[06:21] <trinikrono> ddecator: ping
[07:14] <drew212> ddecator: are you around?
[07:16] <trinikrono> drew212: ddecator is your mentor also right?
[07:16] <drew212> trinikrono: yessir/mam
[07:16] <drew212> trinikrono: how's you're debugging going?
[07:17] <trinikrono> that makes us classmates lol, its sir thank you very much
[07:17] <trinikrono> you mind if i pm you i tend to talk a lot
[07:17] <drew212> trinikrono: go ahead =)
[07:36] <drew212> does anyone know why a user wouldn't have permission to access a .crash file?
[07:44] <trinikrono> any BC people online?
[09:48] <ddecator> drew212: trinikrono: sorry i wasn't around guys, i had some stuff come up. i'm about to head to bed, but feel free to pm me any questions and i'll get back to you tomorrow, promise :)
[09:48] <trinikrono> ddecator: :D
[09:49] <trinikrono> i was killing the old bugs in checkgmail
[09:49] <trinikrono> it has 3 only now
[09:49] <ddecator> very nice :)
[09:49] <trinikrono> i have one to show you though sometime
[09:49] <trinikrono> maybe when you have time
[09:50] <ddecator> i can take a look at one real quick before bed
[09:51] <trinikrono> bug 582778 i want to make into a question
[09:51] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 582778 in usb-creator (Ubuntu) "RFE: Support cloning an existing Ubuntu installation onto another disk in a bootable form (affects: 1) (heat: 102)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/582778
[09:51] <trinikrono> thats the best i can come up with
[09:51] <trinikrono> i am sure you rem this one
[09:53] <trinikrono> also i think bug 236046 is a dupe of 403135 i just wanted to hear what you though
[09:53] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 236046 in checkgmail (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "checkgmail tray background colour cannot be changed (affects: 26) (heat: 137)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/236046
[09:53] <trinikrono> bug 403135
[09:53] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 403135 in wine1.2 (Ubuntu) (and 31 other projects) "Notification area icon wrongly rendered/uses bg_color as a background (multiple apps) (affects: 378) (dups: 33) (heat: 1757)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/403135
[09:53] <ddecator> it's not really a support question though...you can leave a comment on the bug asking if dmitrijs thinks it could potentially become a feature of usb-creator down the road so it can be wishlist-ed
[09:54] <trinikrono> lol, i dont think it is a bug either ddecator
[09:54] <trinikrono> so the question is, what is it
[09:57] <ddecator> well it's a feature request, we just need to find out if it's within the scope of the project. if it is, it can be a wishlist bug, if it isn't, then brainstorm is the best choice (even if the user doesn't want to use it)
[09:57] <ddecator> i'm looking at the other two a sec..
[09:58] <trinikrono> too bad usb-creator does not take blueprints
[10:00] <trinikrono> that was the first bug you helped me with :D
[10:04] <ddecator> wow, way too many people uploaded pics of their icons not working even after the dev asked them not to...-sigh- anyway it does look like it could be the same, so we could probably move the report over. however, i'm really tired and out of it, so mind if i look again tomorrow and see what i think when i'm awake? :p
[10:05] <trinikrono> sure
[10:05] <trinikrono> you go and sleep
[10:05] <trinikrono> looking at the questions in usb-creator
[10:06] <trinikrono> its not a long shot though lol
[10:06] <ddecator> alright, thanks. i also started looking through some of your work. i want to look through some more, but i should be ready to give you a review within the next couple of days
[10:07] <trinikrono> does ubot understand questions also?
[10:07] <trinikrono> question 76634
[10:07] <ddecator> if you can do some work on a few recently reported bugs, that'd help. it's great that you are able to close a lot of old bugs, but work on newer bugs shows your abilities better
[10:07] <ddecator> i actually don't know if ubot2 can link to questions..not that i know of
[10:08] <ddecator> alright, good night everyone
[10:10] <ddecator> keep up the good work trinikrono :)
[10:10] <trinikrono> later ddecator
[10:30] <trinikrono> is anyone else able to look at bug 582778 from bugcontrol
[10:30] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 582778 in usb-creator (Ubuntu) "RFE: Support cloning an existing Ubuntu installation onto another disk in a bootable form (affects: 1) (heat: 102)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/582778
[11:58] <gnomefreak> can anyone reproduce bug 599313
[11:58] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 599313 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "There is no way to stop a song from playing (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/599313
[12:00] <jfi> gnomefreak, I don't reproduce it with maverick (and I use rythmbox all the time)
[12:00] <jfi> you just have to left click on the tray bar icon and deselect 'play'
[12:01] <gnomefreak> you have to do the same to play after stopping?
[12:01] <jfi> you can also hit the play button (left top corner) of rythmbox
[12:02] <jfi> gnomefreak, yes
[12:02] <gnomefreak> jfi: that pauses it
[12:02] <jfi> ho you real mean stop
[12:02] <jfi> I don't know a way to stop that's correct
[12:02] <jfi> just to pause/resume
[12:02] <gnomefreak> jfi: that is no way for a UI to work. shouldnt have to be a seasoned user to stop a song
[12:03] <gnomefreak> stop a song so i can play another song
[12:03] <jfi> you can remove the song from the queue
[12:03] <jfi> you can go to next/previous
[12:03] <gnomefreak> jfi: that is not ideal just to stop a song IMHO
[12:05] <jfi> maybe, personnaly I use rythmbox all the time and I did not suffer for this missing feature
[12:10] <gnomefreak> i have ~5 gigs of music. play next/previous somtime isnt an option.
[12:11] <jfi> yes, skipping a song is very important:)
[12:12] <jfi> you can do that, you have next/previous in the UI and in the trybar icon and even in docky
[12:13] <gnomefreak> i know that but skipping 50 song is not the best idea for new users.
[12:13] <jfi> I don't see the relation with the missing 'stop' button
[12:14] <gnomefreak> jfi: so pause is ok but stop isnt?
[12:14] <jfi> well, that's just my very personnal opinion)
[12:15] <jfi> the usecase is to be able to replay the current song no?
[12:15] <gnomefreak> jfi: not from the bug i filed
[12:16] <gnomefreak> stop a song for any reason
[12:17]  * gnomefreak be back in a few hours i have a meeting
[12:19] <seb128> gnomefreak, what does stop mean for a player? how is that different from pause for example?
[12:20] <jfi> seb128, it returns to the begining of the song
[12:20] <seb128> gnomefreak, not have a stop button is a design decision
[12:20] <seb128> you can click previous for that?
[12:20] <jfi> no
[12:20] <jfi> you have to hit previous + pause
[12:20] <seb128> well what is the interest to go back to start of a song if that's not to play it?
[12:20] <jfi> because is not stopping the song, it just go back to the begining of the song and playh it
[12:21] <seb128> I just discuss the real world usecase for stop
[12:21] <jfi> seb128, I don't know, that why I said that I dont see the usecasse:)
[12:21] <seb128> I think upstream decided there was no real need for one
[12:21] <seb128> it's not a bug
[12:24] <jfi> I guess that the usuability issue is that there is a stop button in most of song device
[12:24] <jfi> so user searchs it even if don't really need it
[12:25] <seb128> ipods for example don't have one
[12:26] <jfi> good point, my mp3 player (mws-e444) don't have stop too
[12:26] <jfi> but my old hifi system got one, even on the radio module (!)
[12:27] <seb128> old broken design? ;-)
[12:27] <seb128> in any case I doubt rhythmbox will get a stop button
[12:27] <jfi> why? Maybe I can really stop the radio!!!! :-D
[12:28] <jfi> youtube does not have stop
[12:37] <jfi> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=320047
[12:37] <ubot2> Gnome bug 320047 in User Interface "Add the STOP button to the Library control panel as it is in the Radio control panel" [Enhancement,Resolved: duplicate]
[12:38] <jfi> The Stop button isn't something that is missing, it's something that has
[12:38] <jfi> deliberatly been omitted. It's present in most other players to mimic "real
[12:38] <jfi> world" audio players (even if it may not make sense since there is nothign
[12:38] <jfi> mechanical involved in a computer audio player), but isn't really useful, apart
[12:38] <jfi> from complexifying the UI.
[14:59] <hggdh> jibel: ping
[14:59] <jibel> hggdh, pong
[17:26] <BUGabundo_remote> L33T http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%CF%80%25+of+1337
[17:26] <BUGabundo_remote> http://www.google.com/search?q=answer+to+life+the+universe+and+everything+=
[18:15]  * vish hopes to see a few unassigned bugs get assigned tomorrow ;)
[18:16] <seb128_> vish, who would assign bugs?
[18:17] <seb128_> usually it works the other way around there, people grab bugs they want to work on ;-)
[18:17] <vish> seb128_: yeah , hyperair is running a bug jam tomorrow , so showed him the unassigned list
[18:18] <seb128_> oh ok
[18:18] <vish> we probably need a tiny url for that link o.0  , copy pasting the wiki link is not possible :p
[18:18] <vish> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-datecreated&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.importance%3Alist=UNKNOWN&field.importance%3Alist=UNDECIDED&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_cve.used=&fi
[18:18] <vish> eld.tag=-needs-packaging&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_no_package.used=&field.has_no_package=on
[18:19] <vish> http://tiny.cc/s36xt , prettier :D
[18:52] <bencrisford> !info tcl
[18:52] <ubot2> bencrisford: tcl (source: tcltk-defaults): The Tool Command Language (default version) - run-time files. In component main, is optional. Version 8.4.16-2 (lucid), package size 4 kB, installed size 68 kB
[19:29] <hggdh> I hope pedro_ does not get sad if I get to go rooting for Brazil (as opposed to Chile) right now
[22:08] <trinikrono> evening all