| === PRIDE is now known as valorie | ||
| czajkowski | Have folks seen http://gracehopper.org/2010/conference/open-source-track/ | 10:17 |
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| pleia2 | sent new logo design samples to the list :) | 17:51 |
| pleia2 | once we finish the discussion on list (if there is one) we'll get licensing info and the SVGs from him | 17:59 |
| jamfish728 | Where is this logo going to be applied? Is it just for media(flyers), or for the website too? | 18:01 |
| IdleOne | the logo looks awesome! | 18:01 |
| IdleOne | jamfish728: all of the above I believe | 18:02 |
| jamfish728 | ok...just curious | 18:03 |
| pleia2 | yeah, all of the above | 18:03 |
| pleia2 | I like the light approach, I'm thinking we'll ask the list for some design mock-ups once the logo is settled | 18:05 |
| pleia2 | something inspired by the new Brand, but perhaps not another clone | 18:05 |
| === daker_ is now known as daker | ||
| AlanBell | pleia2: any idea what font that is? | 18:25 |
| pleia2 | AlanBell: nope | 18:26 |
| AlanBell | works really well, especially as "women" has no assenders | 18:27 |
| AlanBell | ascenders | 18:27 |
| maco | looks like garamond | 18:27 |
| AlanBell | seems to have kicked of a lively discussion on the list! | 18:35 |
| AlanBell | personally I think it is slick and professional looking which is certainly the direction I would support | 18:38 |
| jledbetter_ | <3 Design :) | 18:48 |
| === Mootbot-UK_ is now known as Mootbot-UK | ||
| === maco2 is now known as maco | ||
| === IdleOne_ is now known as Guest50774 | ||
| === Guest50774 is now known as IdleOne | ||
| === daker_ is now known as daker | ||
| pleia2 | huh, turns out our old logo was CC BY NC SA | 20:21 |
| pleia2 | gonna ask Troy if we can drop the NC | 20:21 |
| pleia2 | (not sure what his intentions were anyway, licensing wasn't discussed) | 20:22 |
| pleia2 | cool, we're dropping the NC and he's getting the SVGs uploaded to a bzr branch soon | 21:03 |
| === czajkows1i is now known as czajkowski | ||
| Tm_T | pleia2: great stuff | 21:06 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 21:06 |
| pleia2 | hey czajkowski :) | 21:06 |
| czajkowski | hows you | 21:07 |
| pleia2 | good good, you? | 21:07 |
| czajkowski | grand just in after visiting mum and sweet jebus she's a bad bad bad bad patien | 21:07 |
| pleia2 | doing ok though, I hope? | 21:08 |
| czajkowski | aye | 21:08 |
| czajkowski | she had the keyhole, gall bladder and stones removed | 21:08 |
| === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum | ||
| czajkowski | maco: pleia2 ye may be interested in http://gracehopper.org/2010/conference/open-source-track/ | 21:36 |
| maco | stupid middle-of-the-week conferences | 21:37 |
| * pleia2 cannot attend :( | 21:37 | |
| maco | if i had a TARDIS (so i could go and then rewind and go to class) I'd go | 21:38 |
| pleia2 | BJ (one of the organizers) joked that she'd have everyone sing me happy birthday if I come, but work and money and stuff | 21:38 |
| maco | ok or a Time Turner | 21:38 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 21:38 |
| maco | however, the TARDIS would solve transportation as well! | 21:38 |
| pleia2 | I'll probably skip UDS-N this year too, just have too many obligations for the rest of the year (and a real vacation with the boy would be nice) | 21:41 |
| maco | also, gag, a conference that charges hundreds of dollar to attend! | 21:41 |
| maco | and thats the *student* rate | 21:41 |
| pleia2 | volunteers get in for free | 21:41 |
| pleia2 | but sponsorships are all for students | 21:42 |
| maco | sponsorship applications closed months ago | 21:42 |
| maco | er scholarship ... whatever | 21:42 |
| maco | sponsor would be the people who pay | 21:42 |
| pleia2 | ah yes, they call them scholarships | 21:44 |
| maco | student rate is $250 | 21:45 |
| maco | dont know where they expect that to come from | 21:45 |
| maco | i can get the $$$ for grownups as grownups have jobs | 21:45 |
| maco | but students, if it was $100, would be going "hmm... $100 for conference...or being able to eat this month..." | 21:46 |
| maco | and again...its on weekdays durng the schoolyear... | 21:47 |
| AlanBell | last conference I went to before I started going to open source stuff was this one http://www-01.ibm.com/software/lotus/events/lotusphere2010/register.html | 21:47 |
| maco | and supposed to be something that professors and students will attend | 21:48 |
| maco | makes *perfect sense* to time it that way ??? | 21:48 |
| maco | AlanBell: yikes! | 21:48 |
| AlanBell | yup | 21:48 |
| maco | excuse there would be its a grownup conference and supposed to be work-paid | 21:48 |
| AlanBell | went three times, but once as a speaker | 21:48 |
| AlanBell | yeah, work paid. I was self employed | 21:48 |
| maco | but thats also OSCON's excuse and i think it's stupid in their case | 21:48 |
| maco | ouch | 21:49 |
| AlanBell | it is a grownup conference, just like all the open source ones should be. | 21:49 |
| maco | it *only* makes sense to charge out the wazoo if you're fine with alienating hobbyists and students and those too new to the field to convince their employers' its a good idea to spend out the wazoo on them | 21:50 |
| czajkowski | well I think tis nice to see an open source stream in events | 21:50 |
| czajkowski | tis rather new | 21:50 |
| pleia2 | czajkowski: yeah, that's cool | 21:50 |
| maco | AlanBell: disagree | 21:50 |
| AlanBell | grown up is not the same as scary expensive of course | 21:50 |
| maco | AlanBell: no reason children shouldnt be allowed at open source conferences | 21:51 |
| AlanBell | no, their isn't, that wasn't quite what I was getting at | 21:51 |
| AlanBell | s/their/there | 21:51 |
| czajkowski | when I ran a conference and had to charge a sum of money it was EUR 60 for 3 days for every day folks and 30/40 cannot remember for unemployed and students were free | 21:52 |
| czajkowski | but not everyone can afford to charge as little as that | 21:52 |
| maco | OLF and SELF are both ~$60 if you want a t shirt and lunch and to support the event financially and free if you dont | 21:53 |
| AlanBell | I don't think the ticket price has to relate to how grown up and professional an event is, the one we are doing in a couple of weeks will be free entry | 21:53 |
| maco | OLF also has a $250 option if you want to have an 8-hour training day the day before | 21:53 |
| czajkowski | FOSDEM I think was 25 if you wanted a t-shirt | 21:54 |
| maco | though i also think training is like GAH expensive anyway | 21:54 |
| maco | local ACM chapter has training events annually and its like $700 if youre a grownup non-member | 21:54 |
| maco | and like $300 if youre a student member | 21:54 |
| maco | i remember lfaraone (a recent motu) boggling at that, wondering how he'd afford $300 on his high school student summer job wages | 21:55 |
| maco | AlanBell: the only correlation i see is that if you want to *keep out* students and non-professions and low-level-professionals, then charge horrendously and they'll be sure to avoid you | 21:57 |
| AlanBell | maco: what I would like to keep out are people who behave childishly and unprofessionaly | 21:58 |
| AlanBell | so more grown up and more professional seems a logical direction | 21:58 |
| * czajkowski just kicks folks out | 21:58 | |
| czajkowski | very simple | 21:58 |
| maco | i would be shocked if my employer paid for me to go to a conference | 21:58 |
| maco | i work in a windows shop | 21:58 |
| AlanBell | which doesn't neccessarily correlate to the ticket price | 21:58 |
| maco | grownup isnt to do with maturity level | 21:58 |
| czajkowski | my event, if you act up or insult one of my speakers, I will ask you to leave and if you have any problems I'll even help you out the door | 21:58 |
| maco | i mean lifestage | 21:58 |
| maco | students arent grownups yet | 21:59 |
| maco | because you dont say "when i grow up i want to still be in school" | 21:59 |
| AlanBell | my kids think issyl0 is a grownup. I would tend to agree with them. | 21:59 |
| maco | i tend to think the only grownups in a school are the faculty | 22:00 |
| maco | more to do with independence i guess | 22:00 |
| * czajkowski is still waiting to grow up :) | 22:00 | |
| maco | moved out of mum's house, done with school, supporting yourself... then you're a grownup | 22:00 |
| maco | so theoretically i'll be one in about 6 months | 22:01 |
| czajkowski | maco: the mothership would disagree :) | 22:01 |
| * AlanBell looks back to see who introduced the word "grownup" into the conversation | 22:01 | |
| czajkowski | she objects to my jeans hoodies and ugg boot wearing clothes, no progressional wears them | 22:01 |
| maco | AlanBell: that was me | 22:01 |
| Pendulum | maco: by that standard I'm no longer a grown up even though I was by a while | 22:01 |
| maco | AlanBell: i said something about only grownups being able to afford expensive conferences, where grownup is the opposite of student | 22:02 |
| maco | well... or not-yet-a-student. cuz diapers toddler who isnt a student because theyre too little doesnt count as grownup either :P | 22:02 |
| maco | Pendulum: i dont think you can reverse, dont worry ;-) | 22:02 |
| AlanBell | yup, anyhow, I like the more professional looking logo and Ubuntu branding overall. | 22:03 |
| maco | i dont | 22:03 |
| issyl0 | AlanBell: haha - well thank you! | 22:03 |
| maco | i liked the brown | 22:03 |
| maco | i dont like the bruise | 22:03 |
| maco | (though ive got some spots on my leg that match the wallpaper *really* well!) | 22:04 |
| maco | (uneven sidewalk + granny trolley = danger will robinson danger) | 22:04 |
| AlanBell | I have a curiously persistent bruise on my shin, which now you come to mention it is a bit aubergine ish | 22:05 |
| maco | ive been saying the wallpaper looked like a bruise since it was unveiled :P | 22:05 |
| AlanBell | (cobbled streets + wheelchair) | 22:06 |
| Pendulum | AlanBell: sorry | 22:06 |
| maco | did you fall out? | 22:06 |
| Pendulum | maco: he was pushing me. | 22:06 |
| maco | ah | 22:06 |
| AlanBell | Pendulum: can't think of a better reason to have a bruise, it is ok! | 22:07 |
| Pendulum | (he did avoid dumping me at any point that I can think of, though) | 22:07 |
| maco | oh crud i gotta leave for school! | 22:08 |
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