[12:27]  * hyperair has discovered that the only way to reliably get TwoFingerEmulation to detect my two fingers is by using my thumb.
[12:27] <hyperair> which happens to be just one finger.
[12:32] <alf__> Hi all! It seems that mesa distributes three separate tarballs: MesaLib, MesaDemos, MesaGLUT
[12:34] <alf__> Does the Ubuntu mesa source package contain all of them in the orig.tar.gz tarball?
[12:34] <jcristau> demos and lib iirc
[12:35] <alf__> jcristau: thanks
[18:38] <bjsnider> Sarvatt, did nvidia change the paths in the driver again?
[22:13] <Nightrose> hi
[22:14] <Nightrose> is just upgraded my system and it decided to reboot in the middle of it
[22:14] <Nightrose> i finished the update from the command line and now it seems X is broken
[22:14] <Nightrose> can anyone help me with this?
[22:50] <alkisg> Hi, I'm trying to figure out a xorg memory problem. Opening this image with firefox makes xorg use an additional 120 MB of memory: http://people.ubuntu.com/~alkisg/tmp/xorg-memory.jpg
[22:51] <alkisg> While this image, with the same dimensions, doesn't: http://people.ubuntu.com/~alkisg/tmp/%20no-xorg-memory.jpg
[22:51] <alkisg> That 120 MB of xorg is only used temporarily, probably while the image is decoded
[22:51] <alkisg> So one needs to keep an eye on `top` as it only happens for a couple of seconds
[22:52] <alkisg> That memory need is huge, so it's crashing all the thin clients here...
[22:52] <alkisg> ...as xorg memory is local to the terminal client, and not on the server
[22:54] <alkisg> Where should I file it as a bug? xorg? firefox? some jpeg library?
[22:56] <alkisg> It only happens with firefox, not with e.g. eog
[22:57] <jcristau> could be X, could be your driver, could be firefox..
[23:01] <alkisg> It happens with both my nvidia drivers and on virtualbox, so I'd guess it's not the driver
[23:02] <alkisg> Ah, got it. It doesn't happen if I save the image as .png
[23:02] <alkisg> So it's probably a problem with the jpeg library used by firefox
[23:03] <alkisg> I don't know if that's possible, but it might be asking X for memory while decoding the image, instead of using C malloc...
[23:05] <Nightrose> anyone around who can help me get my system back into a running state please? i really need it to work :/
[23:07] <alkisg> Oooops sorry it did happen it just happened too fast and I didn't see it with `top`. The client still crashed though. :)
[23:38] <tormod> Nightrose, please use #ubuntu for support (but try sudo apt-get install)
[23:39] <Nightrose> i did finish the upgrade from command line afterwards