[00:16] <steeldevil> I can not find my irc client on 10.04 did I go blind?
[00:17] <steeldevil> hm well guess I have to install lets see how the software center does that
[12:30] <jml> is it possible to parametrize couch views the way you parametrize sql queries?
[12:40] <duanedesign> hello jml
[12:41] <jml> hello
[13:01] <lifeless> jml: do you mean in the client libraries?
[13:01] <lifeless> I thought views were naturally parameterised
[13:01] <jml> lifeless, I don't know what you mean.
[13:02] <jml> with SQL, you can do something like db.execute("SELECT ... WHERE foo = ? AND bar = ?", x, y)
[13:02] <jml> I want to do something like that.
[13:03] <lifeless> jml: I don't know enough here to really help, sorry :(
[13:03] <jml> I guess the answer is "put absolutely everything you care about parametrizing in your key"
[13:43] <mkarnicki> morning
[14:09] <kai> hi folks
[14:11] <duanedesign> kai: hello
[14:14] <mkarnicki> hi kai
[14:14] <mkarnicki> hi duanedesign
[14:15] <kai> so, what seems to be the best way to sync contacts between a bunch of computers given that ubuntuone contact sync still doesn't work?
[14:15] <kai> I can manually sync my couchdbs, but that's a bit tedious.
[14:15] <kai> is there a reasonable way to use the infrastructure set up for ubuntu one and use it for my private cloud?
[14:32]  * diplo wonders why I didn't read the status page before spending ages working out why my contacts weren't syncing :/
[14:59] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: thanks for thumbs up on the forums. if you're interested, I put up another weekly report http://goo.gl/42LU
[15:03] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: nice
[15:03] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: thanks :)
[15:17] <adiroiban> hi. any idea why I got this errors for desktopcouch http://paste.ubuntu.com/456406/ ?
[15:23] <duanedesign> adiroiban: currently couch replication is not working for a lot of people. It was turned off and is now being slowly turned back on.
[15:25] <adiroiban> duanedesign: bad luck. Tomorrow I will have a presentation on my university regarding CouchDB and Ubuntu-one... it looks like I will have to skip the demo :(
[15:28] <adiroiban> does this means that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status is obsolete and no longer updated?
[15:32] <mkarnicki> adiroiban: o oh..
[15:33] <mkarnicki> maybe they could enable your selectively o_O
[15:44] <duanedesign> adiroiban: the status page is updated
[15:45] <duanedesign> the message under 'Contacts' accurately describes the situation with CouchDB
[15:45] <adiroiban> duanedesign: for me, it said that notes are working
[15:45] <duanedesign> adiroiban: your notes are not syncing?
[15:46] <adiroiban> duanedesign: nope
[15:48] <adiroiban> duanedesign: for https://couchdb.one.ubuntu.com/u/MY_USER_ID/notes/ I get 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable
[15:48] <adiroiban> same error for all other couchdb databases
[15:52] <duanedesign> adiroiban: is this what you followed to set up your note syncing?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Tutorials/Notes
[15:56] <adiroiban> duanedesign: no. I have a custom application that is directly accesing my local couchdb instance
[15:56] <adiroiban> Tomboy is just crashing when trying to syncronize the couchdb notes
[15:57] <adiroiban> I am also reading/editing my notes using Fulton
[16:05] <duanedesign> adiroiban: might try: tomboy --debug > ~/tomboy_debug.log
[16:05] <duanedesign> to get more info about why it crashes
[16:05] <adiroiban> duanedesign: yes, but this is a desktopcouch problem, since gwibber prefencences are not syncronized
[16:06] <adiroiban> and same to my other couchdb databases
[16:06] <duanedesign> adiroiban: tomboy uses the snowy protocol to sync
[16:11] <adiroiban> duanedesign: ok. but I expect desktopcouch to replicate my local couchdb intance to other computers using ubuntu one... on this is not working
[16:12] <duanedesign> adiroiban: yeah it is frustrating i know. Hopefully it will be back on for you, and all of us, soon
[16:13] <duanedesign> they have to turn it on X number of users at a time to keep from degrading the service performance
[16:13] <adiroiban> duanedesign: no problem, I just wanted to say this is not an Tomboy specific problem and that I don't realy care about tomboy
[16:13] <duanedesign> :) i gotcha
[17:59] <popey> hmm, dashboard says I have 21 notes. i actually have 5
[20:46] <bj0> is there a quick way to disable ubuntu one syncing?
[20:55] <duanedesign> hello bj0
[20:56] <duanedesign> bj0: you can open the Ubuntu One Preferences found under the 'Me Menu'. The 'Services' Tab allows you to turn the services on and off
[21:14] <kblin> hi folks
[21:39] <duanedesign> hi kblin
[22:07] <kblin> so assuming I've written my own cloud service script for desktopcouch, how would I get applications to use that instead of the UbuntuOne script?
[22:19] <rye> kblin, ? you mean replicate to another service ?
[22:19] <rye> duanedesign, hi :)
[22:19] <kblin> yeah
[22:20] <kblin> seeing how the most interesting parts of ubuntuone still don't work
[22:20] <kblin> I don't want to buy music or share files, I want to sync my contacts
[22:21] <kblin> I can do that manually using the couchdb web frontend, but that's a bit clumsy for multiple boxes
[22:21] <rye> kblin, desktopcouch replicates to anything that is specified in management db
[22:23] <kblin> interesting
[22:23] <rye> quick update on the couchdb status i got today from thisfred - there is an upgrade planned for couchdb services that will have numerous bug fixes (that are not visible on the client-side) and then the work to resume replication will continue.
[22:24] <kblin> is there any sort of documentation on this?
[22:25] <kblin> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/desktopcouch/server_identity is a dead link
[22:26] <kblin> I also gather there's no GUI that allows any selection of service providers, right?
[22:27] <rye> hm, need to look at desktopcouch-pair
[22:30] <duanedesign> hello rye. o/
[22:40] <bj0> duanedesign, i see, thanks, i had just hit 'disconnect' on my computer
[22:40] <bj0> ubuntuone seems like deleting files from my ubuntu one directory every several days or so, even when they don't change at all :/
[22:42] <rye> bj0, hm, have you filed a bug report?
[22:42] <rye> bj0, and we would be more than glad to have the logs from your client
[22:43] <bj0> i don't really have any information about whats going on
[22:43] <bj0> where are the logs kept?
[22:43] <rye> bj0, deleting files = ?
[22:43] <rye> bj0, ~/.local/cache/ubuntuone/log/
[22:43] <bj0> i just noticed the files missing sometimes, and i copy them back from my backup drive
[22:44] <rye> bj0, what type of files are being removed - some specific like image/jpeg or random?
[22:44] <bj0> some are images files, a pdf file and a .lyx file,  but all the files in that directory are encrypted using encfs
[22:45] <bj0> so ubuntuone just sees the encrypted directory
[22:45] <larryjor57> Hello?  Can anyone help with Ubuntu One requirements?
[22:45] <rye> bj0, hm, well i tried w/ encryptfs and it was not very good at syncing because it never got file change notification
[22:46] <larryjor57> I can't get my "contacts" to sync, looking at the log file it says it can't authenticate.... see mention of wxgtk2.8, which doesn't install for me... is it needed?
[22:47] <kblin> larryjor57: contacts sync doesn't work, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status#Contacts
[22:47] <rye> larryjor57, are you using phone contacts sync or attempting to use Evolution <-> Web interface contact sync? The latter is still disabled due to server-side being not really stable
[22:47] <rye> btw
[22:47] <rye> quick update on couchdb and replication
[22:48] <larryjor57> Ok   thanks rye... that would be it then.  I'm trying to sync contacts from Evolution.
[22:49] <rye> there is an upgrade planned next week which is coordinated with couch.io that will bring couchdb 0.11 to the servers with multiple bug fixes that may help to prevent couchdb hanging on authentication (when you see "server with notes/contacts is not responding" this is basically it).
[22:49] <bj0> rye, that seems odd that it wouldn't be able to tell when files are modified, but even so, why would it be deleting files?
[22:50] <rye> after the upgrade is done they will continue monitoring the state of couchdb stability
[22:50] <larryjor57> Ok then, tks for info rye.  What is unstable about it?
[22:50] <rye> bj0, that's why could you please open a bug report and attach the whole archive of ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/
[22:51] <larryjor57> Anyway, that answers my question... will wait for it to work later...  Tks again rye.  Bye for now
[22:51] <bj0> i could... but since the filenames are mangled, i'm not sure which file in the log corresponds to the ones dissappearing
[22:52] <rye> bj0, still it will be helpful to have the log files
[22:53] <rye> ah, i was using ecryptfs, that did not work well
[22:53] <bj0> i'm using encfs, which is somewhat similar, though uses fuse
[22:54] <bj0> do you know why it doesn't work well? as soon as you change something in the mounted directory doesn't it change it in the encrypted directory?
[22:54] <bj0> oh yea, and wheres the bug tracker
[22:56] <bj0> found it
[23:07] <duanedesign> bj0: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-client/+filebug
[23:09] <duanedesign> actually the command: apport-bug ubuntuone-client       would be ideal
[23:10] <bj0> oh, too late
[23:10] <bj0> heh
[23:11] <duanedesign> bj0: :)
[23:19] <rye> bj0, is there any pattern on how you believe files are deleted
[23:19] <rye> ?
[23:21] <bj0> i'm not sure
[23:21] <bj0> you mean when they happen, or which files?
[23:21] <bj0> it always seems to be the same files
[23:37] <rye> bj0, hm, when did you notice that the files were gone the last time?
[23:39] <bj0> i haven't been keeping track, probably a week or so ago
[23:40] <rye> hm
[23:41] <rye> bj0, no activity spotted there since 23rd of June
[23:41] <bj0> activity?
[23:42] <bj0> the files were there i'm pretty sure on the 24th
[23:42] <bj0> then i was gone for the weekend and i checked today
[23:42] <bj0> and they were gone
[23:47] <rye> bj0, there is only one mentioning of file removal and it is the internal operation, on 2010-06-27 16:19:08. I am setting up ecryptfs udf to see what happens
[23:48] <bj0> huh i thought i was using encfs, but i guess i am using encryptfs instead
[23:49] <rye> bj0, yes, it looks pretty much like this, based on the filenames
[23:49] <rye> brb, maverick kernel upgrade, reboot neede
[23:49] <rye> d