[06:23] <crankharder> why is this config starting multiple processes of god initially, and then within a few seconds it's down to two of them that won't go away: http://pastie.org/1021409
[06:23] <crankharder> if I comment out the exec/respawn lines then god never gets started
[06:24] <crankharder> all these commands are within a few seconds: http://pastie.org/1021413
[06:24] <crankharder> for some reason it killed all but one this time
[14:06] <ion> Hi Keybuk
[14:06] <ion> Working hard on 0.10? :-)
[14:07] <Keybuk> it consumes my every waking moment :p
[15:05] <crankharder> anyone have any insight into this weirdness? https://answers.launchpad.net/upstart/+question/115996
[15:15] <Keybuk> crankharder: I would guess that "god" forks multiple instances by itself
[15:15] <Keybuk> or is a daemonising process (so upstart sees the daemonisation as it existing badly)
[15:20] <crankharder> well, 1) i dont think god forks itself 2) it doesn't do it if I execute the command manually 3) respawn on it is broken, if I kill all the processes it doesn't restart
[15:20] <crankharder> "do it" == start multiple processes
[15:21] <crankharder> also, weirdness like this:
[15:21] <crankharder> $ sudo stop god
[15:21] <crankharder> stop: Unknown instance: 
[15:35] <Keybuk> that to me really implies that god forks
[15:35] <sadmac> Keybuk: well yeah. Jesus.
[15:50] <crankharder> are there repercussions if I add expect fork and expect daemon and god doesn't actually fork/daemonize something?
[15:51] <crankharder> ...well, it works as expected w/ those added
[17:36] <mgoetze> Keybuk: is there any chance of an ubuntu developer working on randomly nonstarting services on 10.04? at work we are still installing 8.04 on customer systems due to this bug...
[17:36] <Keybuk> you'd have to ask your support contact about that
[17:37] <mgoetze> my employer is too cheap to pay canonical for support :)
[17:37] <Keybuk> I don't know of any bugs affecting large numbers of users in 8.04
[17:38] <Keybuk> so if you do have an issue, it is probably specific to your configuration
[17:38] <mgoetze> the bug is in 10.04, LP#543506 and co.
[17:38] <Keybuk> sorry I mean 10.04
[17:39] <Keybuk> isn't that the bug where /dev/console isn't available?
[17:39] <mgoetze> yes i think that's part of the problem
[17:39] <Keybuk> (well, the node exists, but opening fails)
[17:48] <Keybuk> right, the cause of that bug hasn't been found yet
[17:49] <Keybuk> and reading through the comments, multiple ubuntu developers are participating in the triage process
[17:53] <mgoetze> alright ... i don't really know which ones are ubuntu devs and which aren't of course :) well thanks for having a look
[17:55] <mgoetze> maybe i'll see whether i can reproduce it with a different kernel