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daedaluzhmm, just noticed that xorg.conf mentions nothing, nvidia controls report 60hz but kde display settings report 50hz as refresh rate. nvidia contol panel is correct, but is the setting applied?01:00
hyperqbedoes a fresh kubuntu install include libgtk2?01:28
twotenI put a cdrom in, and I have a device notifier widget in my system tray, but it does not get auto mounted. What's up with that?01:28
ubuntu_hi01:30
ScuniziEvery time I open Konsole there is a lag and the first line that shows up in the new window is "#updates: command not found"... how do I get rid of that?01:31
Typos_KingScunizi:   can't say, check what line is using to launch it from the menu, using kmenuedit01:37
ScuniziTypos_King: ok.. thanks I'll check that.01:38
ScuniziTypos_King: nothing unusual in there.. command to launch is konsole and there is a check mark next to "Enable launch feedback"..01:39
ScuniziTypos_King: launching konsole from in a konsole results in http://pastebin.com/piCp092s .... really kinda weird01:41
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yroh02:29
GrazzManCan someone help me with a Partition issue?02:51
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kate_hi all03:43
kate_มีคนไทยไหมคับ03:43
kate_hi all03:43
kate_I have problem with ubuntu03:44
alezNAS03:44
kate_My desktop not show icon all03:44
kate_help me please03:44
angeloWhat is you user?03:48
kate_kate03:50
angelowhat icons? on desktop? or on menu?03:51
kate_all icon on desktop03:54
kate_and i can't view all file and folder in harddisk03:54
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kickingintenderkubuntu not installing inside windows05:12
kickingintenderi mean i installed it succesfully but unable to boot inside it.....using lucid kubuntu05:13
Gumbyhi all.  just installed kubuntu onto my laptop and then switched over to the nvidia drivers and upon a reboot, I can only log into a console.  I am using a nVidia 310M GPU.  Is there a howto on getting this to work anywhere?05:14
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prithvihello06:20
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shreenathhelp!!!08:28
hrwhi08:29
shreenathhow to transfer photos from digicam to my local hard disk in kubuntu??08:29
shreenathhow to transfer photos from digicam to my local hard disk in kubuntu??08:41
santhusthi08:41
santhustjust testing konversation08:42
santhusthi08:46
santhusttesting quassel08:46
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naftilos76hi everyone, i just upgraded to lucid from 9.10 and i have a problem with my USB keyboard & mouse. The both suddenly stop responding at an unpredictable time. If i plug in a PS/2 keyboard after that event, the PS/2 keyboard works ok. So this is not a system crash. Has anybody experienced anything similar?\09:01
naftilos76Just happened again!09:03
naftilos76I am on a PS/2 keyboard without mouse!09:03
naftilos76anyone?09:04
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MrChrisHi everybody09:35
MrChrisI've been looking for the kubuntu logos on wiki.ubuntu.com/kubuntu09:35
MrChrisbut can't seem to find any09:36
MrChriscan somebody help me out pls?09:36
tsimpsonMrChris: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuArtwork09:40
MrChristhanks tsimpson09:42
MrChrisquite what i was looking for (y)09:42
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slow-motionhi10:11
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alesanhi! I desperately need help10:57
alesanknetworkmanager won't connect to any wireless network10:57
alesaneven unencrypted10:57
alesanit works (sometimes) on ethernet, like now10:57
alesanwhat can I do to totally reset its configuration?10:58
alesanI am using a lenovo thinkpad T400 with Intel 5100 AGN [Shiloh] wireless adapter10:59
alesanI could try with another one on USB10:59
jkeyHi everyone! How can we implement such a thing: the program chees transmit video stream to the input of the program skype?11:03
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HazamonzoHmm, any reason to why kubuntu ignores my ATI settings i choose in amdcccl ?11:16
Hazamonzohmm,  if i try to run aticonfig -initial -f i get the message "Please copy configuration file template to /etc/X11" but a ls -lX /etc/X11/ shows there is already a xorg.conf there (rw-r-r)11:23
HazamonzoWhat could be the issue there then?11:23
Hazamonzooh, the content of xorg.conf : http://pastebin.ca/189171211:25
HazamonzoMaybe a quick restart will help11:28
Hazamonzohmm11:34
Hazamonzono not really11:34
Hazamonzorestarted and looked at my xorg.conf. Its changed to a more basic one :(11:34
HazamonzoAnyone interested?11:34
amichairany thoughts on why a right-click menu in dolphin takes about 2 minutes to pop up?11:39
amichairfreezing the whole window in the meanwhile...11:40
Hazamonzodang it11:50
dcorbin_workWhere do I configure network interfaces in the latest kubuntu?11:50
Torchamichair: you should run dolphin from a konsole session with all debug output turned on in kdebugdialog and see what takes so long11:53
Hazamonzodcorbin_work: knetworkmanager11:53
slow-motionre12:25
alesanhi, knetworkmanager won't connect to any wireless network, even unencrypted12:29
alesananything I can do to reset its config and restore to when it was working well?12:29
amichairTorch: starting dolphin in konsole itself takes a long while... it gives an error about communication problem with 'dolphin' saying it probably crashed. Then it starts normally. right-click takes a couple of minutes, but doesn't output anything in konsole.12:41
Torchamichair: did you actually turn on all debugging output in kdebugdialog?12:42
amichairTorch: oops... missed that part12:42
amichairTorch: I just check 'dolphin' and apply?12:43
Torchamichair: turn on all debugging output.12:43
Torchamichair: i can only repeat myself ;-)12:43
amichairTorch: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/456853/12:56
amichairdisclaimer: a couple days ago I had my first total system freeze, which required a cold reboot. Then these delays started.12:58
Torchamichair: i probably cannot help you further with this. i suggest asking on #kde.13:02
amichairTorch: ok, thanks!13:02
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KennethAarhi13:24
KennethAarHm How do I move the contents of dir 1 into dir2? "mv /home/dir1 /home/dir2" makes dir1 a subfolder for dir 2. Dolphin crashes because of umlauts (skandinavian characters in the filenames)13:26
amichairKennethAar: you can 'mv olddir/* newdir'13:31
amichairto move everything under olddir (but not olddir itself) into newdir13:31
KennethAaramichair: Thank you very much. May you have a wonderfull day :-)13:37
amichairKennethAar: you too :-)13:38
KennethAaramichair: Hm but one folder excists in both places already how do I make all the contents merge?13:44
amichairKennethAar: hmmm.... not sure. might be easier to just cp '-ur' and if everything is ok, delete the source13:49
amichair(-r for recursive, -u to update only newer or missing files)13:50
KennethAaramichair: Hm not enough space :-(13:51
amichairKennethAar: another slightly more complex option would be to use find + xargs to mv each file separately13:53
KennethAarhm trying dolphin for some of the operations... Fingers crossed. (slightly anoyed that the umalut problem persist after reporting av bug 4-5 years ago)13:57
amichairKennethAar: strange that they should still have such trivial I18n bugs13:58
KennethAaramichair: Yes. I really don't get it. But I am a mere user so I really don't know that much about programming...13:59
KennethAarOne would think that with all the european linux users this would be fixed now...14:00
amichairthey have much trickier I18n stuff covered ok... are you sure that's what's causing the problem?14:01
KennethAarseems to be. But It seems to be a problem with files that have been on a fat or ntfs filessystem at one time. Or else it works great...14:03
KennethAarfiles then get these characters: S+P p� Bent kurs14:05
KennethAarcommandline no problem dolphin/nautilus.. Crash...14:06
KennethAarhm is it possible to replace all � in all file names with another letter?14:08
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amichairKennethAar: maybe there's a way to specify the charset when mounting the fat disk14:12
KennethAaramichair: I found convmv seems like what I need.14:12
amichairI don't know it, but looks like it might work14:13
KennethAarI am installing cnvmv now...14:14
[ade]moins. i'm trying to install kubuntu 10.04 on a c2d w/ nvidia 9600M; nouveau doesn't seem to like that chip, because after picking "install" (or "try kubuntu" for that matter) i get dumped to a text screen. is there a text-mode installer available or a way i can tell the installer to just stick with vesa until I can get the proprietary driver?14:20
KennethAar[ade]: There is an alternate installer. But you kan specify no dpms at boot time or something. Not exactly sure what your would type though14:22
KennethAar[ade]: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/14:26
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nthykierHi, with the upload of kdebase-workspace yesterday to Maverick (4:4.4.90), two symbols that my package needed was removed, which (obviously) now causes it to FTBFS15:23
nthykierMy package is sentinella and I am trying to figure out how best to fix this issue15:25
[ade]nthykier: which symbols?15:27
nthykier[ade]: _ZN9KSysGuard9Processes14returnInstanceERK7QString@Base and _ZN9KSysGuard9Processes11getInstanceERK7QString@Base15:28
nthykier(at least I assume it is them based on the build log - /build/buildd/sentinella-0.6.2/src/Actions/KillProcess.cpp:24: error: 'getInstance' is not a member of 'KSysGuard::Processes )15:29
[ade]i don't see anything in the kde svn logs that suggest that the interface has changed15:30
[ade]gimme a minute while svn updates15:31
nthykier[ade]: If it helps they are listed as removed from kdebase-workspace-4.4.90/debian/libprocesscore4a.symbols in the 4:4.4.85-0ubuntu5 -> 4.4.90-0ubuntu1 diff15:32
[ade]-    mProcesses = KSysGuard::Processes::getInstance(mHostName);15:41
[ade]+    mProcesses = new KSysGuard::Processes(mHostName);15:41
[ade]that's the kind of change made in KSysguard's processui so you'll probably do the same15:41
nthykier[ade]: Okay, I assume returnInstance is replaced with a delete ?15:42
[ade]-        KSysGuard::Processes::returnInstance(mHostName);15:42
[ade]+        delete mProcesses;15:42
[ade]+        mProcesses = 0;15:42
[ade]yep15:42
FloodBotK1[ade]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.15:42
nthykierokay, thanks, I hope this is the only change I need :P15:43
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ajmalhi there all16:58
ajmaliam using kubuntu lucid now16:58
clickwirIsn't it super?16:58
ajmalbut...there is no mp3 playback16:58
ajmalcan anybdy help16:58
clickwirhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats16:58
clickwirfollow that guide to get MP316:59
DarthFrog!medibuntu | ajmal16:59
ubottuajmal: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org16:59
ajmalno....but how do i play mp3 on my pc16:59
clickwirIt's easy, just follow the instructions.17:00
ajmali have downloaded necessary packages to play mp317:00
DarthFrogYou have to install the codec.17:00
clickwirThen open Amarok.17:00
clickwirOr VLC.17:00
ajmali dont have VLC.....now what 2 do17:00
DarthFrogAmarok is superb.17:00
clickwirAmarok.17:00
clickwirUse Amarok.17:01
ajmalupdate manager says i have 43 security updates17:01
ajmalshould i install them?17:01
clickwirit's in the menu. It's got a pretty icon of a wolf.17:01
ajmalbut i want mp3 playback17:01
clickwirUpdate Manger is pretty smart, I'd listen to it. If it says there are updates, do it.17:01
clickwirAmarok is great for playing MP3's.17:01
ajmalamarok quits17:02
clickwirtime for lunch17:02
ajmalalso grub tells me kubuntu as ubuntu kernel....strange17:03
DarthFrogIt is.17:03
clickwirYes, the kernel is called Ubutnu.17:03
clickwirKubuntu is built on Ubuntu.17:03
DarthFrogKubuntu is Ubuntu with the KDE SC desktop.17:03
clickwirinstall your updates. reboot. then try amarok again.17:03
DarthFrogNo need to reboot, unless a new kernel was installed.  Otherwise, just log out and back in again.17:05
georges-albertHi, I search a net on Kubuntu in French. Thanks by advance17:07
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jjunksystem is crashing....iam thrown every time i do some thing ....how 2 repair this17:12
jjunkthorown at command prompt.......17:12
DarthFrogWhat does that mean?17:12
jjunkiam getting blank screen then some login on command prompt17:13
DarthFrogOK, log in at the command prompt, then issue this command: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. Then reboot.17:14
DarthFrogIf it still happens, you'll have to read the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what the problem might be.17:15
jjunkshould i paste here17:15
DarthFrogno!17:16
jjunkthen17:16
DarthFrogYou'll be kick-banned by the FloodBot.17:16
DarthFrog!paste | jjunk17:16
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jjunkiam right now downloading security updates now17:16
DarthFrogWhat video card do you have?  What video driver are you using?17:17
jjunkalso mp3 isnt played by amrok...it closes unexpectedly17:17
DarthFrog!mp3 | jjunk17:17
ubottujjunk: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats17:17
jjunki dont have video card...i have builtin motherboard with graphics ...intel 845gvsr17:17
jjunkis there system testing in kubuntu17:18
GhostnetHow can i install kubuntu17:21
Ghostnet?17:21
DarthFrogAre you running Ubuntu now?17:21
jjunknow mp3 are playing but....i have problem with system going down to cli and asking for login and doesnt even start the GUI...i.e plasma desktop17:22
GhostnetSorry How can i install KDevelop17:22
GhostnetKDevelop 417:22
DarthFrogIt's in lucid-backports.17:24
GhostnetI cant install it I have been struggling with this for a week17:25
jjunkhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/456947/17:25
jjunkthe above is my x org log17:26
jjunkshould i report a bug in launchpad?17:26
jjunkalso i want 2 do system testing like ubuntu....17:27
DarthFrogjjunk: There's no errors reported in that file.17:27
hyperqbedoes libgtk2 get installed in a default install of kubuntu?17:28
DarthFrogjjunk: What happens when you log in at the command line, then type "startx"?17:28
jjunkthen why does it ask for login again as iam already logged in.....also seeing CLI is horror(nightmare)17:28
DarthFrogCLI is where the power is.  :-)17:29
jjunkstartx doesnt work iam still at CLI17:29
DarthFroghyperqbe: Doubt it.17:29
jjunkso i do a reboot then using sudo -s...shutdown -r now17:29
DarthFrogjjunk: Define doesn't work.  Just saying that provides little to no information.17:30
hyperqbeDarthFrog: so no firefox or gimp by default either?17:31
DarthFroghyperqbe: Not by default.  But they're easily installed.17:32
jjunkwhat should i do next time when iam thrown at CLI?17:32
hyperqbeok, thanks17:32
jjunki will report a bug...now i think17:33
DarthFrogOK.17:33
TeslaTonyI'm trying to use knetworkmanager on Kubuntu Netbook Remix, and it won't hook up to an unsecured network for me, and seems to think it's trying t connect to a different one. Ideas?17:36
jjunkthere was kgrubedit now how to change kubuntu name in grub17:36
jjunk>17:36
jjunk?17:36
jjunkhow does strigi work???? i want to use to search....in windows its too easy17:38
jjunki want to change grub entry name17:39
jjunkis kfind related2 strigi in any way17:41
jjunkwhats the use of strigi17:42
Mr_Ljjunk: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst17:42
jjunkin terminal17:42
jjunk?17:42
Mr_Luse a terminal editor like vim or nano?17:43
jjunknow thts tricky as i dont want 2 mess grub with my own hands also isnt there any gui for that?17:43
Mr_LI believe not17:43
Mr_LIt's not too tricky to edit this file, but the danger of making mistakes is there17:44
jjunkwhich grub dude as .....i have both ubuntu and kubuntu on my pc17:45
DarthFrogMr_L: It's no longer menu.lst, it's now grub.cfg.  And it shouldn't be edited by hand, changes are not persistant.17:46
jjunkis hibernate available in kubuntu ....17:46
DarthFrogjjunk: Even so, there's only one GRUB and one /boot/grub/grub.cfg.17:46
Mr_LDarthFrog: Ok. you're right for grub217:47
Mr_LDarthFrog: But as far as I know you can edit grub.cfg an then do "update-grub"17:47
DarthFrogMr_L: That will defintely overwrite your changes.17:48
DarthFrogEdit /etc/default/grub instead.17:48
Mr_LDarthFrog: Ok. I'll better stop talking as I don't want to be the one responsible for a system failure ;)17:49
DarthFrogAnd editing /etc/default/grub won't do what jjunk wants, either. :-)17:49
jjunkis mysql available in kubuntu/ubutnu17:50
jjunkalso can i play quicktime movies inside kubuntu?17:50
DarthFrogjjunk:  Read /etc/grub.d/10_linx and figure it out. :-)  Warning: here be dragons!17:51
DarthFrogjjunk: Yes and yes.17:51
jjunkwhat about strigi then....whats front end for strigi ...how do i search using strigi17:52
jjunkhey update manager doesnt show me size of files to be downloaded/downloding17:52
jjunkit says 14 seconds only?17:53
jjunkhow can i monitor hdd temperatur in kubuntu17:54
jjunkany applet?17:54
jjunkbye guys17:56
slow-motionhi18:03
sebersolei use konversation in ubuntu and run into problems with my sound cutting out after some time.  It only effects kde apps.  it goes away after reboot, for some time until it happens again.  the complaint is about phonon.  i had this issue before and ended up having to uninstall something, but i cannot remember what (this came back after i accepted a prompted "upgrade"; boy never doing that again)18:17
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Marchitosanyone testing 4.5 rc1?18:36
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ToxinPoweI have 4.5rc1 on Arch18:56
apparlehi19:04
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Hiryuwhat do I need to install to get mp3 ripping in konqueror to work?19:18
mfraz74I'm having trouble with KDEPIM and Kopete again :(19:23
mfraz74if I sync a contact between Kopete and the address book, Kopete saves the vcf in the folder without the .vcf extension19:25
Z-RAY_after amateur tries to update MLT to 0.5.6 i have left without ffmpeg modules and even ffpmeg is installed, kdenlive says that some not installed at all. also it says that some sound module is not installed. i spent all day to make "lines and dots" bug dissappear (white lines and dots - was promised to be fixed in MLT 0.5.5) and i couldn't make it, even worse - now modules "avformat module", "Quimage module", "Title module" are missing and reinstalling of t19:26
Z-RAY_he program and ffmpeg does not helping.19:26
Z-RAY_help me please to make this thing work correctly. my skype is "woanerges", or write me here. please, bro's, come on, i need some support here!19:26
Z-RAY_white dots and lines examples:19:26
Z-RAY_http://kdenlive.org/sites/default/files/shot1_0.png19:26
Z-RAY_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrFXr_bx2a019:26
FloodBotK1Z-RAY_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.19:26
* BluesKaj wonders if 'always allow' in kdewallet manager actaully means 'always ask' , because that's what it does19:34
mfraz74what is the minimum I should have in kde resources?19:39
BluesKajminimum?19:40
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aston120:02
Eddie_6Hi! Any thoughts on netbook edition vs standard edition? I'm considering one of them for my sammy n210...20:28
Z-RAY_aaaaaaa20:36
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susi_huhu20:44
susi_jemand anwesend ?20:45
jhunold!de | susi_20:45
ubottususi_: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.20:45
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dimitrusshi21:32
lummrc1 on 4.5 gives me a empty x window in my taskbar.. if i close it plasma crashes. how to avolid this behavoir, is this a known issue?21:33
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DarthFroglumm: Wrong channel.  Ask on #kubuntu-devel22:05
kaddihi :)22:08
kaddianyone familiar with clementine? Any opinions?22:09
BluesKajkaddi, what's clementine?22:13
kaddia qt4 port of amarok 1.422:14
kaddihttp://code.google.com/p/clementine-player/22:14
oxymoronHow do I solve this, doesnt able to fix with sudo apt-get -f install: http://pastebin.com/HyBFP9qh22:15
Freddy2hi22:16
kaddihi22:16
Freddy2what happens with mirrors? why can i see kde 4.4.5 available if hasn't yet been released?22:16
BluesKajI use VLC , amarok isn't worth the trouble22:16
kaddiBluesKaj: it still seems in early developement and it's the first I've heard of it. I thought maybe people here might now it22:16
kaddiheh, too slow22:17
kaddi:p22:17
BluesKajkaddi, ok , I'll check it out22:17
kaddihow do you get the playlist to stick and not be empty at every boot in vlc?22:18
kaddievery start22:18
kaddiyou don't need to install that for me, I just thought that some people here might have it since I've heard a lot of amarok 2.0 complaints while I was on here ;)22:19
Freddy2is there any way to know which is the apt source for those packets? (in synaptic, for example)22:21
BluesKajyou have to save playlists to file , i think, usually i just listen streaming audio so I have list of netradio stns saved22:21
BluesKajbbl...22:21
kaddiFreddy2: apt-cache policy packagename should give you the name, the intsalled version and the repository from which it is available with the respective versions22:22
Freddy2ok, thx22:24
Freddy2hmm it's at kubuntu-ppa/staging repo22:27
nUboon2Agewith kubuntu is there a quick way to tell if the computer i'm on has a built in mic that's working?22:29
nUboon2Agethis machine has a web cam so i'm thinking it might have a built in mic, but is there a way to tell and configure it?22:35
dmattnUboon2Age: just click sound icon and choose mixer22:37
nUboon2Ageas a matter of fact i just spotted a tiny logo for a built in mic.  but how do i configure it in kubuntu22:37
nUboon2Agedmatt: okay.. checking...22:37
amichairderby sqlexception database "''" not found22:37
amichairwhoops, wrong channel :-)22:38
nUboon2Agedmatt: would that be the column labeled PCM?  i only see Master, PCM and Headphones...22:39
dmattnUboon2Age: no22:39
dmattPCM is wav output22:40
BluesKajPCM can be pm322:40
BluesKajmp322:40
dmattin mixer, go to settings/channel settings to see available channels22:40
nUboon2Agedmatt: okay, under 'configuration of channels' i found a column of Available channels and another of visible channels and I figured out I can drag a channel from the available, to invisible22:41
nUboon2Agedmatt: so i dragged over 'Front Mic Boost'... and am checking it out...22:41
dmattBluesKaj: mp3 is converted to wav-like before playing22:41
BluesKajpcm is merely the digital component of the audio signal22:42
dmattnUboon2Age: you should look for something like Mic or Internal Mic22:42
nUboon2Agedmatt: okay i now have a level on the mixer to move, now how do i see the wave forms or know what the effect is of a particular setting of the slider?22:43
BluesKajwell dmatt that's news to me , but it really doesn't matter aslong as it plays22:43
nUboon2Agedmatt: or BluesKaj: how do i tell how loud it really is?  Can i see the wave forms somehow?22:47
dmattnUboon2Age: do you have any application to record sound installed?22:48
nUboon2Agedmatt: i've got the plain kubuntu installation and i'm brand new to it, so i don't know.22:49
BluesKajnUboon2Age, you could try audacity , it's an app used for recording etc22:49
nUboon2AgeBluesKaj:  dmatt: sure, if that's your rec, I'll try to install it.  I know that one is more involved though, is there something really simple?22:50
BluesKajnUboon2Age, well, you could use cdrecord , cli app22:52
nUboon2AgeBluesKaj: dmatt: simple but w/ gui22:52
BluesKajnUboon2Age, gui apps tend to be more complicated IME22:54
nUboon2AgeBluesKaj: dmatt: yes, true.  Just need a beginner's sound app w/ gui.22:55
dmattnUboon2Age: i was looking for something appropriate... try qarecord22:55
dmattyou have to install it first22:56
nUboon2Agedmatt: BluesKaj: okay, i'll try that... installing now...22:56
BluesKajwell, i hate to admit that gnome-media seems to be a simple media app that might work , nUboon2Age22:58
nUboon2Agedmatt: BluesKaj: okay i'll check that one out too.  in the meantime qa record at least seems to confirm the mic is working, so thank you for the help you two.  I'm going to try to use skype on this computer...23:00
dmattif you want to work with sound little bit more, I definitely advise to go for audacity23:01
dimitrussvlc23:02
BluesKajnUboon2Age, a bit of advice about skype , try the static version, it's downloadeable but easy to install, and works well vs the package-manager version23:02
nUboon2Agedmatt: BluesKaj i dowloaded audacity too in the meantime23:04
nUboon2AgeBluesKaj: dimitruss: i don't see anything in the package manager except skype plugin for libpurple messengers...23:05
dmattnUboon2Age: you mean installed? there is no need to separately download anything, you install directly from repositories23:05
BluesKajnUboon2Age,http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/post-download/23:06
nUboon2Agedmatt: BluesKaj: for skype i think i was looking in the repositories...23:06
dmattBluesKaj: yes skype is in the repo now23:07
nUboon2Agedmatt: BluesKaj: maybe i don't have the package manager configured correctly... looking at the web page BluesKaj provided now...23:07
BluesKajdmatt, the static version which i find much more stable isn't , but one can find it here http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/post-download/23:08
nUboon2Agedmatt: BluesKaj: what does static v. dynamic mean?23:08
dmattnUboon2Age: what is your problem with package manager?23:09
nUboon2Agedmatt: well i'm brand new to kubuntu, so i'm just trying to guess why i don't see it in the repositories.23:10
dmattwhat manager do you use and did you run update?23:10
nUboon2Agedmatt: i just am looking at the KPackageKit, and i'm not sure if i've run an update...23:11
nUboon2AgeBluesKaj: what does 'static' or 'dynamic' mean in this context?23:12
BluesKajnUboon2Age, not sure but some ppl over at #skype chat recommended it for kubuntu , and they were right ...i tried both versions and the static version worked from the get go23:12
nUboon2AgeBluesKaj: so when you look at the web page you provided, which link did you use?23:13
nUboon2Agedmatt: I'm not sure how to change the repository settings in KPackageKit or why i'm not seeing Skype there.23:18
dmattnUboon2Age: BluesKaj: static usually means it has its own libraries. the opposite is shared libraries it is shared by more programs and could be updated anytime23:19
nUboon2Agedmatt: okay that makes sense, ty23:20
BluesKajdmatt, and in my experienc enot work ,after an update/upgrade :P23:21
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nUboon2Agedmatt: BluesKaj: since i haven't been able to figure out how to use KPackageKit to get a deb package i used the link on the web page on the top left, which said Ubuntu 8.10+64 (as opposed to the one further down that says 'Static' but is a .bz file or something)...23:23
dmattnUboon2Age: in kpackagekit, choose Settings/Edit software sources23:23
dmattyou have to enable partner sources23:23
nUboon2Agedmatt: BluesKaj: the download/ install from the Skype web site didn't work.  it gave an error in KPackageKit (something about 'does not contain the term 'read')23:26
nUboon2Agedmatt: how do i access 'Settings/Edit ...' i don't see it...23:27
nUboon2Agedmatt: never mind, i found it...23:28
dmattnUboon2Age: look in Other software tab... if it is ticked, close it and choose the icon above ettings (I have it translated to different language, but it might be something like Software update in English)23:32
nUboon2Agedmatt: i think i found it... right now its trying to reload the package list and its stuck on 55 of 57... waiting...23:33
dmattnUboon2Age: it is much easier to explain how to do it in terminal... just 2 commands to update and one to install skype :)23:34
* BluesKaj is not a fan of kpackagekit , synaptic despite being a gnaome app is much superior23:35
dmattnUboon2Age: leave it some time, it is running for the first time I suppose... expect lots of updates23:35
BluesKajerr gnome23:35
nUboon2Agedmatt: i think i have to let it try to complete the update...23:35
nUboon2Agedmatt: BluesKaj: its still showing 55 of 57, 99%... i'll try and be patient...23:36
BluesKajnUboon2Age, just let it go ... it's good to be patient :)23:37
dmattit is trying to connect to some repo, which might be not available23:37
dmattnUboon2Age: did you switch from ubuntu or do you have clean kubuntu install from scratch?23:38
BluesKajthere are some repos that may need to be enabled in software sources, including 3rd party and canonical partners23:39
nUboon2Agedmatt: BluesKaj: it is a clean wubi install... still at 55 of 5723:41
dmattBluesKaj: synaptic is ok, but I usually go straight to apt-get if kpackackekit has troubles23:41
BluesKajdmatt, i like synaptic for searches23:41
BluesKajbut i bnormally use the cli for installation23:42
BluesKajerr noramally23:42
BluesKajrr,, gawd23:43
nUboon2Agedmatt: BluesKaj: so far the only real complaint i'd have about kpackageKit is that 1) i'm not familiar w/ it (and i'll get through that quickly enough) but 2) i don't see an option right now to have a view of what its doing like Synaptic has...23:43
dmattnUboon2Age: what linux you have experiences with?23:44
nUboon2Agedmatt: i'm a beginner w/ Ubuntu, and little bit of Peppermint.23:45
nUboon2Agedmatt: BluesKaj: well i'm thinking maybe i should close the download window... and go to cli.. what do y'all think?23:46
dmattnUboon2Age: I would say so too23:47
dmattnUboon2Age: you were not installing, only refreshing list of packages from repo, right?23:48
BluesKajnUboon2Age, ok , but before you run any other commands in the cli, run this one first, sudo dpkg --clear-avail23:48
nUboon2Agedmatt: yes, that's correct.23:48
nUboon2Agedmatt: okay did that...23:49
dmattsudo apt-get update23:49
dmattthis one only downloads information about available packages23:50
nUboon2Agedmatt: did that.  I think it mostly worked except it failed to get some files from the CD (which isn't in the drive and which could be why the KPackageKit was having trouble too)23:51
BluesKajnUboon2Age, disable the cdrom in the kpackagekit23:51
dmattnUboon2Age: do you have working internet connection?23:52
nUboon2AgeBluesKaj: okay, but do i need to do that now, or just ignore it and go on?23:52
ridinis there anyway i can get some different window buttons/look, i don't like the oxygen buttons23:52
nUboon2Agedmatt: yes internet connection working..23:52
dmattnUboon2Age: i would say ignore it23:52
BluesKajnUboon2Age, do it before  you do apt-get update23:53
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nUboon2Agedmatt: BluesKaj: okay, what is the next step?23:53
dmattsudo apt-get upgrade23:53
dmattthis will bring your system up-to-date23:54
BluesKajpersonally I use aptitude due to it's superior dependency tracking and handling , but to each his own23:55
dmattwhen it finishes, than finally     sudo apt-get install skype23:55
nUboon2AgeBluesKaj: i'll check out aptitude sometime.  i'd heard others say good things about it too...23:55
ridinis there anyway i can get some different window buttons/look, i don't like the oxygen buttons23:55
nUboon2Agedmatt: okay doing last step now...23:56
BluesKajbbl, gotta setup sprinkler etc23:56
dmattBluesKaj: I have seen fail both on different occasion23:56
nUboon2Agedmatt: BluesKaj: okay, I'm on Skype now... ty both for your help!!!23:58
dmattnUboon2Age: there are always at least two working ways how to solve the problem :)23:59

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