[01:00] <daedaluz> hmm, just noticed that xorg.conf mentions nothing, nvidia controls report 60hz but kde display settings report 50hz as refresh rate. nvidia contol panel is correct, but is the setting applied?
[01:28] <hyperqbe> does a fresh kubuntu install include libgtk2?
[01:28] <twoten> I put a cdrom in, and I have a device notifier widget in my system tray, but it does not get auto mounted. What's up with that?
[01:30] <ubuntu_> hi
[01:31] <Scunizi> Every time I open Konsole there is a lag and the first line that shows up in the new window is "#updates: command not found"... how do I get rid of that?
[01:37] <Typos_King> Scunizi:   can't say, check what line is using to launch it from the menu, using kmenuedit
[01:38] <Scunizi> Typos_King: ok.. thanks I'll check that.
[01:39] <Scunizi> Typos_King: nothing unusual in there.. command to launch is konsole and there is a check mark next to "Enable launch feedback"..
[01:41] <Scunizi> Typos_King: launching konsole from in a konsole results in http://pastebin.com/piCp092s .... really kinda weird
[02:29] <yro> h
[02:51] <GrazzMan> Can someone help me with a Partition issue?
[03:43] <kate_> hi all
[03:43] <kate_> มีคนไทยไหมคับ
[03:43] <kate_> hi all
[03:44] <kate_> I have problem with ubuntu
[03:44] <alez> NAS
[03:44] <kate_> My desktop not show icon all
[03:44] <kate_> help me please
[03:48] <angelo> What is you user?
[03:50] <kate_> kate
[03:51] <angelo> what icons? on desktop? or on menu?
[03:54] <kate_> all icon on desktop
[03:54] <kate_> and i can't view all file and folder in harddisk
[05:12] <kickingintender> kubuntu not installing inside windows
[05:13] <kickingintender> i mean i installed it succesfully but unable to boot inside it.....using lucid kubuntu
[05:14] <Gumby> hi all.  just installed kubuntu onto my laptop and then switched over to the nvidia drivers and upon a reboot, I can only log into a console.  I am using a nVidia 310M GPU.  Is there a howto on getting this to work anywhere?
[06:20] <prithvi> hello
[08:28] <shreenath> help!!!
[08:29] <hrw> hi
[08:29] <shreenath> how to transfer photos from digicam to my local hard disk in kubuntu??
[08:41] <shreenath> how to transfer photos from digicam to my local hard disk in kubuntu??
[08:41] <santhust> hi
[08:42] <santhust> just testing konversation
[08:46] <santhust> hi
[08:46] <santhust> testing quassel
[09:01] <naftilos76> hi everyone, i just upgraded to lucid from 9.10 and i have a problem with my USB keyboard & mouse. The both suddenly stop responding at an unpredictable time. If i plug in a PS/2 keyboard after that event, the PS/2 keyboard works ok. So this is not a system crash. Has anybody experienced anything similar?\
[09:03] <naftilos76> Just happened again!
[09:03] <naftilos76> I am on a PS/2 keyboard without mouse!
[09:04] <naftilos76> anyone?
[09:35] <MrChris> Hi everybody
[09:35] <MrChris> I've been looking for the kubuntu logos on wiki.ubuntu.com/kubuntu
[09:36] <MrChris> but can't seem to find any
[09:36] <MrChris> can somebody help me out pls?
[09:40] <tsimpson> MrChris: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuArtwork
[09:42] <MrChris> thanks tsimpson
[09:42] <MrChris> quite what i was looking for (y)
[10:11] <slow-motion> hi
[10:57] <alesan> hi! I desperately need help
[10:57] <alesan> knetworkmanager won't connect to any wireless network
[10:57] <alesan> even unencrypted
[10:57] <alesan> it works (sometimes) on ethernet, like now
[10:58] <alesan> what can I do to totally reset its configuration?
[10:59] <alesan> I am using a lenovo thinkpad T400 with Intel 5100 AGN [Shiloh] wireless adapter
[10:59] <alesan> I could try with another one on USB
[11:03] <jkey> Hi everyone! How can we implement such a thing: the program chees transmit video stream to the input of the program skype?
[11:16] <Hazamonzo> Hmm, any reason to why kubuntu ignores my ATI settings i choose in amdcccl ?
[11:23] <Hazamonzo> hmm,  if i try to run aticonfig -initial -f i get the message "Please copy configuration file template to /etc/X11" but a ls -lX /etc/X11/ shows there is already a xorg.conf there (rw-r-r)
[11:23] <Hazamonzo> What could be the issue there then?
[11:25] <Hazamonzo> oh, the content of xorg.conf : http://pastebin.ca/1891712
[11:28] <Hazamonzo> Maybe a quick restart will help
[11:34] <Hazamonzo> hmm
[11:34] <Hazamonzo> no not really
[11:34] <Hazamonzo> restarted and looked at my xorg.conf. Its changed to a more basic one :(
[11:34] <Hazamonzo> Anyone interested?
[11:39] <amichair> any thoughts on why a right-click menu in dolphin takes about 2 minutes to pop up?
[11:40] <amichair> freezing the whole window in the meanwhile...
[11:50] <Hazamonzo> dang it
[11:50] <dcorbin_work> Where do I configure network interfaces in the latest kubuntu?
[11:53] <Torch> amichair: you should run dolphin from a konsole session with all debug output turned on in kdebugdialog and see what takes so long
[11:53] <Hazamonzo> dcorbin_work: knetworkmanager
[12:25] <slow-motion> re
[12:29] <alesan> hi, knetworkmanager won't connect to any wireless network, even unencrypted
[12:29] <alesan> anything I can do to reset its config and restore to when it was working well?
[12:41] <amichair> Torch: starting dolphin in konsole itself takes a long while... it gives an error about communication problem with 'dolphin' saying it probably crashed. Then it starts normally. right-click takes a couple of minutes, but doesn't output anything in konsole.
[12:42] <Torch> amichair: did you actually turn on all debugging output in kdebugdialog?
[12:42] <amichair> Torch: oops... missed that part
[12:43] <amichair> Torch: I just check 'dolphin' and apply?
[12:43] <Torch> amichair: turn on all debugging output.
[12:43] <Torch> amichair: i can only repeat myself ;-)
[12:56] <amichair> Torch: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/456853/
[12:58] <amichair> disclaimer: a couple days ago I had my first total system freeze, which required a cold reboot. Then these delays started.
[13:02] <Torch> amichair: i probably cannot help you further with this. i suggest asking on #kde.
[13:02] <amichair> Torch: ok, thanks!
[13:24] <KennethAar> hi
[13:26] <KennethAar> Hm How do I move the contents of dir 1 into dir2? "mv /home/dir1 /home/dir2" makes dir1 a subfolder for dir 2. Dolphin crashes because of umlauts (skandinavian characters in the filenames)
[13:31] <amichair> KennethAar: you can 'mv olddir/* newdir'
[13:31] <amichair> to move everything under olddir (but not olddir itself) into newdir
[13:37] <KennethAar> amichair: Thank you very much. May you have a wonderfull day :-)
[13:38] <amichair> KennethAar: you too :-)
[13:44] <KennethAar> amichair: Hm but one folder excists in both places already how do I make all the contents merge?
[13:49] <amichair> KennethAar: hmmm.... not sure. might be easier to just cp '-ur' and if everything is ok, delete the source
[13:50] <amichair> (-r for recursive, -u to update only newer or missing files)
[13:51] <KennethAar> amichair: Hm not enough space :-(
[13:53] <amichair> KennethAar: another slightly more complex option would be to use find + xargs to mv each file separately
[13:57] <KennethAar> hm trying dolphin for some of the operations... Fingers crossed. (slightly anoyed that the umalut problem persist after reporting av bug 4-5 years ago)
[13:58] <amichair> KennethAar: strange that they should still have such trivial I18n bugs
[13:59] <KennethAar> amichair: Yes. I really don't get it. But I am a mere user so I really don't know that much about programming...
[14:00] <KennethAar> One would think that with all the european linux users this would be fixed now...
[14:01] <amichair> they have much trickier I18n stuff covered ok... are you sure that's what's causing the problem?
[14:03] <KennethAar> seems to be. But It seems to be a problem with files that have been on a fat or ntfs filessystem at one time. Or else it works great...
[14:05] <KennethAar> files then get these characters: S+P p� Bent kurs
[14:06] <KennethAar> commandline no problem dolphin/nautilus.. Crash...
[14:08] <KennethAar> hm is it possible to replace all � in all file names with another letter?
[14:12] <amichair> KennethAar: maybe there's a way to specify the charset when mounting the fat disk
[14:12] <KennethAar> amichair: I found convmv seems like what I need.
[14:13] <amichair> I don't know it, but looks like it might work
[14:14] <KennethAar> I am installing cnvmv now...
[14:20] <[ade]> moins. i'm trying to install kubuntu 10.04 on a c2d w/ nvidia 9600M; nouveau doesn't seem to like that chip, because after picking "install" (or "try kubuntu" for that matter) i get dumped to a text screen. is there a text-mode installer available or a way i can tell the installer to just stick with vesa until I can get the proprietary driver?
[14:22] <KennethAar> [ade]: There is an alternate installer. But you kan specify no dpms at boot time or something. Not exactly sure what your would type though
[14:26] <KennethAar> [ade]: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/
[15:23] <nthykier> Hi, with the upload of kdebase-workspace yesterday to Maverick (4:4.4.90), two symbols that my package needed was removed, which (obviously) now causes it to FTBFS
[15:25] <nthykier> My package is sentinella and I am trying to figure out how best to fix this issue
[15:27] <[ade]> nthykier: which symbols?
[15:28] <nthykier> [ade]: _ZN9KSysGuard9Processes14returnInstanceERK7QString@Base and _ZN9KSysGuard9Processes11getInstanceERK7QString@Base
[15:29] <nthykier> (at least I assume it is them based on the build log - /build/buildd/sentinella-0.6.2/src/Actions/KillProcess.cpp:24: error: 'getInstance' is not a member of 'KSysGuard::Processes )
[15:30] <[ade]> i don't see anything in the kde svn logs that suggest that the interface has changed
[15:31] <[ade]> gimme a minute while svn updates
[15:32] <nthykier> [ade]: If it helps they are listed as removed from kdebase-workspace-4.4.90/debian/libprocesscore4a.symbols in the 4:4.4.85-0ubuntu5 -> 4.4.90-0ubuntu1 diff
[15:41] <[ade]> -    mProcesses = KSysGuard::Processes::getInstance(mHostName);
[15:41] <[ade]> +    mProcesses = new KSysGuard::Processes(mHostName);
[15:41] <[ade]> that's the kind of change made in KSysguard's processui so you'll probably do the same
[15:42] <nthykier> [ade]: Okay, I assume returnInstance is replaced with a delete ?
[15:42] <[ade]> -        KSysGuard::Processes::returnInstance(mHostName);
[15:42] <[ade]> +        delete mProcesses;
[15:42] <[ade]> +        mProcesses = 0;
[15:42] <[ade]> yep
[15:42] <FloodBotK1> [ade]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:43] <nthykier> okay, thanks, I hope this is the only change I need :P
[16:58] <ajmal> hi there all
[16:58] <ajmal> iam using kubuntu lucid now
[16:58] <clickwir> Isn't it super?
[16:58] <ajmal> but...there is no mp3 playback
[16:58] <ajmal> can anybdy help
[16:58] <clickwir> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[16:59] <clickwir> follow that guide to get MP3
[16:59] <DarthFrog> !medibuntu | ajmal
[16:59] <ajmal> no....but how do i play mp3 on my pc
[17:00] <clickwir> It's easy, just follow the instructions.
[17:00] <ajmal> i have downloaded necessary packages to play mp3
[17:00] <DarthFrog> You have to install the codec.
[17:00] <clickwir> Then open Amarok.
[17:00] <clickwir> Or VLC.
[17:00] <ajmal> i dont have VLC.....now what 2 do
[17:00] <DarthFrog> Amarok is superb.
[17:00] <clickwir> Amarok.
[17:01] <clickwir> Use Amarok.
[17:01] <ajmal> update manager says i have 43 security updates
[17:01] <ajmal> should i install them?
[17:01] <clickwir> it's in the menu. It's got a pretty icon of a wolf.
[17:01] <ajmal> but i want mp3 playback
[17:01] <clickwir> Update Manger is pretty smart, I'd listen to it. If it says there are updates, do it.
[17:01] <clickwir> Amarok is great for playing MP3's.
[17:02] <ajmal> amarok quits
[17:02] <clickwir> time for lunch
[17:03] <ajmal> also grub tells me kubuntu as ubuntu kernel....strange
[17:03] <DarthFrog> It is.
[17:03] <clickwir> Yes, the kernel is called Ubutnu.
[17:03] <clickwir> Kubuntu is built on Ubuntu.
[17:03] <DarthFrog> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with the KDE SC desktop.
[17:03] <clickwir> install your updates. reboot. then try amarok again.
[17:05] <DarthFrog> No need to reboot, unless a new kernel was installed.  Otherwise, just log out and back in again.
[17:07] <georges-albert> Hi, I search a net on Kubuntu in French. Thanks by advance
[17:12] <jjunk> system is crashing....iam thrown every time i do some thing ....how 2 repair this
[17:12] <jjunk> thorown at command prompt.......
[17:12] <DarthFrog> What does that mean?
[17:13] <jjunk> iam getting blank screen then some login on command prompt
[17:14] <DarthFrog> OK, log in at the command prompt, then issue this command: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. Then reboot.
[17:15] <DarthFrog> If it still happens, you'll have to read the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what the problem might be.
[17:15] <jjunk> should i paste here
[17:16] <DarthFrog> no!
[17:16] <jjunk> then
[17:16] <DarthFrog> You'll be kick-banned by the FloodBot.
[17:16] <DarthFrog> !paste | jjunk
[17:16] <jjunk> iam right now downloading security updates now
[17:17] <DarthFrog> What video card do you have?  What video driver are you using?
[17:17] <jjunk> also mp3 isnt played by amrok...it closes unexpectedly
[17:17] <DarthFrog> !mp3 | jjunk
[17:17] <jjunk> i dont have video card...i have builtin motherboard with graphics ...intel 845gvsr
[17:18] <jjunk> is there system testing in kubuntu
[17:21] <Ghostnet> How can i install kubuntu
[17:21] <Ghostnet> ?
[17:21] <DarthFrog> Are you running Ubuntu now?
[17:22] <jjunk> now mp3 are playing but....i have problem with system going down to cli and asking for login and doesnt even start the GUI...i.e plasma desktop
[17:22] <Ghostnet> Sorry How can i install KDevelop
[17:22] <Ghostnet> KDevelop 4
[17:24] <DarthFrog> It's in lucid-backports.
[17:25] <Ghostnet> I cant install it I have been struggling with this for a week
[17:25] <jjunk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/456947/
[17:26] <jjunk> the above is my x org log
[17:26] <jjunk> should i report a bug in launchpad?
[17:27] <jjunk> also i want 2 do system testing like ubuntu....
[17:27] <DarthFrog> jjunk: There's no errors reported in that file.
[17:28] <hyperqbe> does libgtk2 get installed in a default install of kubuntu?
[17:28] <DarthFrog> jjunk: What happens when you log in at the command line, then type "startx"?
[17:28] <jjunk> then why does it ask for login again as iam already logged in.....also seeing CLI is horror(nightmare)
[17:29] <DarthFrog> CLI is where the power is.  :-)
[17:29] <jjunk> startx doesnt work iam still at CLI
[17:29] <DarthFrog> hyperqbe: Doubt it.
[17:29] <jjunk> so i do a reboot then using sudo -s...shutdown -r now
[17:30] <DarthFrog> jjunk: Define doesn't work.  Just saying that provides little to no information.
[17:31] <hyperqbe> DarthFrog: so no firefox or gimp by default either?
[17:32] <DarthFrog> hyperqbe: Not by default.  But they're easily installed.
[17:32] <jjunk> what should i do next time when iam thrown at CLI?
[17:32] <hyperqbe> ok, thanks
[17:33] <jjunk> i will report a bug...now i think
[17:33] <DarthFrog> OK.
[17:36] <TeslaTony> I'm trying to use knetworkmanager on Kubuntu Netbook Remix, and it won't hook up to an unsecured network for me, and seems to think it's trying t connect to a different one. Ideas?
[17:36] <jjunk> there was kgrubedit now how to change kubuntu name in grub
[17:36] <jjunk> >
[17:36] <jjunk> ?
[17:38] <jjunk> how does strigi work???? i want to use to search....in windows its too easy
[17:39] <jjunk> i want to change grub entry name
[17:41] <jjunk> is kfind related2 strigi in any way
[17:42] <jjunk> whats the use of strigi
[17:42] <Mr_L> jjunk: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:42] <jjunk> in terminal
[17:42] <jjunk> ?
[17:43] <Mr_L> use a terminal editor like vim or nano?
[17:43] <jjunk> now thts tricky as i dont want 2 mess grub with my own hands also isnt there any gui for that?
[17:43] <Mr_L> I believe not
[17:44] <Mr_L> It's not too tricky to edit this file, but the danger of making mistakes is there
[17:45] <jjunk> which grub dude as .....i have both ubuntu and kubuntu on my pc
[17:46] <DarthFrog> Mr_L: It's no longer menu.lst, it's now grub.cfg.  And it shouldn't be edited by hand, changes are not persistant.
[17:46] <jjunk> is hibernate available in kubuntu ....
[17:46] <DarthFrog> jjunk: Even so, there's only one GRUB and one /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
[17:47] <Mr_L> DarthFrog: Ok. you're right for grub2
[17:47] <Mr_L> DarthFrog: But as far as I know you can edit grub.cfg an then do "update-grub"
[17:48] <DarthFrog> Mr_L: That will defintely overwrite your changes.
[17:48] <DarthFrog> Edit /etc/default/grub instead.
[17:49] <Mr_L> DarthFrog: Ok. I'll better stop talking as I don't want to be the one responsible for a system failure ;)
[17:49] <DarthFrog> And editing /etc/default/grub won't do what jjunk wants, either. :-)
[17:50] <jjunk> is mysql available in kubuntu/ubutnu
[17:50] <jjunk> also can i play quicktime movies inside kubuntu?
[17:51] <DarthFrog> jjunk:  Read /etc/grub.d/10_linx and figure it out. :-)  Warning: here be dragons!
[17:51] <DarthFrog> jjunk: Yes and yes.
[17:52] <jjunk> what about strigi then....whats front end for strigi ...how do i search using strigi
[17:52] <jjunk> hey update manager doesnt show me size of files to be downloaded/downloding
[17:53] <jjunk> it says 14 seconds only?
[17:54] <jjunk> how can i monitor hdd temperatur in kubuntu
[17:54] <jjunk> any applet?
[17:56] <jjunk> bye guys
[18:03] <slow-motion> hi
[18:17] <sebersole> i use konversation in ubuntu and run into problems with my sound cutting out after some time.  It only effects kde apps.  it goes away after reboot, for some time until it happens again.  the complaint is about phonon.  i had this issue before and ended up having to uninstall something, but i cannot remember what (this came back after i accepted a prompted "upgrade"; boy never doing that again)
[18:36] <Marchitos> anyone testing 4.5 rc1?
[18:56] <ToxinPowe> I have 4.5rc1 on Arch
[19:04] <apparle> hi
[19:18] <Hiryu> what do I need to install to get mp3 ripping in konqueror to work?
[19:23] <mfraz74> I'm having trouble with KDEPIM and Kopete again :(
[19:25] <mfraz74> if I sync a contact between Kopete and the address book, Kopete saves the vcf in the folder without the .vcf extension
[19:26] <Z-RAY_> after amateur tries to update MLT to 0.5.6 i have left without ffmpeg modules and even ffpmeg is installed, kdenlive says that some not installed at all. also it says that some sound module is not installed. i spent all day to make "lines and dots" bug dissappear (white lines and dots - was promised to be fixed in MLT 0.5.5) and i couldn't make it, even worse - now modules "avformat module", "Quimage module", "Title module" are missing and reinstalling of t
[19:26] <Z-RAY_> he program and ffmpeg does not helping.
[19:26] <Z-RAY_> help me please to make this thing work correctly. my skype is "woanerges", or write me here. please, bro's, come on, i need some support here!
[19:26] <Z-RAY_> white dots and lines examples:
[19:26] <Z-RAY_> http://kdenlive.org/sites/default/files/shot1_0.png
[19:26] <Z-RAY_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrFXr_bx2a0
[19:26] <FloodBotK1> Z-RAY_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:34]  * BluesKaj wonders if 'always allow' in kdewallet manager actaully means 'always ask' , because that's what it does
[19:39] <mfraz74> what is the minimum I should have in kde resources?
[19:40] <BluesKaj> minimum?
[20:02] <aston> 1
[20:28] <Eddie_6> Hi! Any thoughts on netbook edition vs standard edition? I'm considering one of them for my sammy n210...
[20:36] <Z-RAY_> aaaaaaa
[20:44] <susi_> huhu
[20:45] <susi_> jemand anwesend ?
[20:45] <jhunold> !de | susi_
[21:32] <dimitruss> hi
[21:33] <lumm> rc1 on 4.5 gives me a empty x window in my taskbar.. if i close it plasma crashes. how to avolid this behavoir, is this a known issue?
[22:05] <DarthFrog> lumm: Wrong channel.  Ask on #kubuntu-devel
[22:08] <kaddi> hi :)
[22:09] <kaddi> anyone familiar with clementine? Any opinions?
[22:13] <BluesKaj> kaddi, what's clementine?
[22:14] <kaddi> a qt4 port of amarok 1.4
[22:14] <kaddi> http://code.google.com/p/clementine-player/
[22:15] <oxymoron> How do I solve this, doesnt able to fix with sudo apt-get -f install: http://pastebin.com/HyBFP9qh
[22:16] <Freddy2> hi
[22:16] <kaddi> hi
[22:16] <Freddy2> what happens with mirrors? why can i see kde 4.4.5 available if hasn't yet been released?
[22:16] <BluesKaj> I use VLC , amarok isn't worth the trouble
[22:16] <kaddi> BluesKaj: it still seems in early developement and it's the first I've heard of it. I thought maybe people here might now it
[22:17] <kaddi> heh, too slow
[22:17] <kaddi> :p
[22:17] <BluesKaj> kaddi, ok , I'll check it out
[22:18] <kaddi> how do you get the playlist to stick and not be empty at every boot in vlc?
[22:18] <kaddi> every start
[22:19] <kaddi> you don't need to install that for me, I just thought that some people here might have it since I've heard a lot of amarok 2.0 complaints while I was on here ;)
[22:21] <Freddy2> is there any way to know which is the apt source for those packets? (in synaptic, for example)
[22:21] <BluesKaj> you have to save playlists to file , i think, usually i just listen streaming audio so I have list of netradio stns saved
[22:21] <BluesKaj> bbl...
[22:22] <kaddi> Freddy2: apt-cache policy packagename should give you the name, the intsalled version and the repository from which it is available with the respective versions
[22:24] <Freddy2> ok, thx
[22:27] <Freddy2> hmm it's at kubuntu-ppa/staging repo
[22:29] <nUboon2Age> with kubuntu is there a quick way to tell if the computer i'm on has a built in mic that's working?
[22:35] <nUboon2Age> this machine has a web cam so i'm thinking it might have a built in mic, but is there a way to tell and configure it?
[22:37] <dmatt> nUboon2Age: just click sound icon and choose mixer
[22:37] <nUboon2Age> as a matter of fact i just spotted a tiny logo for a built in mic.  but how do i configure it in kubuntu
[22:37] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: okay.. checking...
[22:37] <amichair> derby sqlexception database "''" not found
[22:38] <amichair> whoops, wrong channel :-)
[22:39] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: would that be the column labeled PCM?  i only see Master, PCM and Headphones...
[22:39] <dmatt> nUboon2Age: no
[22:40] <dmatt> PCM is wav output
[22:40] <BluesKaj> PCM can be pm3
[22:40] <BluesKaj> mp3
[22:40] <dmatt> in mixer, go to settings/channel settings to see available channels
[22:41] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: okay, under 'configuration of channels' i found a column of Available channels and another of visible channels and I figured out I can drag a channel from the available, to invisible
[22:41] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: so i dragged over 'Front Mic Boost'... and am checking it out...
[22:41] <dmatt> BluesKaj: mp3 is converted to wav-like before playing
[22:42] <BluesKaj> pcm is merely the digital component of the audio signal
[22:42] <dmatt> nUboon2Age: you should look for something like Mic or Internal Mic
[22:43] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: okay i now have a level on the mixer to move, now how do i see the wave forms or know what the effect is of a particular setting of the slider?
[22:43] <BluesKaj> well dmatt that's news to me , but it really doesn't matter aslong as it plays
[22:47] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: or BluesKaj: how do i tell how loud it really is?  Can i see the wave forms somehow?
[22:48] <dmatt> nUboon2Age: do you have any application to record sound installed?
[22:49] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: i've got the plain kubuntu installation and i'm brand new to it, so i don't know.
[22:49] <BluesKaj> nUboon2Age, you could try audacity , it's an app used for recording etc
[22:50] <nUboon2Age> BluesKaj:  dmatt: sure, if that's your rec, I'll try to install it.  I know that one is more involved though, is there something really simple?
[22:52] <BluesKaj> nUboon2Age, well, you could use cdrecord , cli app
[22:52] <nUboon2Age> BluesKaj: dmatt: simple but w/ gui
[22:54] <BluesKaj> nUboon2Age, gui apps tend to be more complicated IME
[22:55] <nUboon2Age> BluesKaj: dmatt: yes, true.  Just need a beginner's sound app w/ gui.
[22:55] <dmatt> nUboon2Age: i was looking for something appropriate... try qarecord
[22:56] <dmatt> you have to install it first
[22:56] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: BluesKaj: okay, i'll try that... installing now...
[22:58] <BluesKaj> well, i hate to admit that gnome-media seems to be a simple media app that might work , nUboon2Age
[23:00] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: BluesKaj: okay i'll check that one out too.  in the meantime qa record at least seems to confirm the mic is working, so thank you for the help you two.  I'm going to try to use skype on this computer...
[23:01] <dmatt> if you want to work with sound little bit more, I definitely advise to go for audacity
[23:02] <dimitruss> vlc
[23:02] <BluesKaj> nUboon2Age, a bit of advice about skype , try the static version, it's downloadeable but easy to install, and works well vs the package-manager version
[23:04] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: BluesKaj i dowloaded audacity too in the meantime
[23:05] <nUboon2Age> BluesKaj: dimitruss: i don't see anything in the package manager except skype plugin for libpurple messengers...
[23:05] <dmatt> nUboon2Age: you mean installed? there is no need to separately download anything, you install directly from repositories
[23:06] <BluesKaj> nUboon2Age,http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/post-download/
[23:06] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: BluesKaj: for skype i think i was looking in the repositories...
[23:07] <dmatt> BluesKaj: yes skype is in the repo now
[23:07] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: BluesKaj: maybe i don't have the package manager configured correctly... looking at the web page BluesKaj provided now...
[23:08] <BluesKaj> dmatt, the static version which i find much more stable isn't , but one can find it here http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/post-download/
[23:08] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: BluesKaj: what does static v. dynamic mean?
[23:09] <dmatt> nUboon2Age: what is your problem with package manager?
[23:10] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: well i'm brand new to kubuntu, so i'm just trying to guess why i don't see it in the repositories.
[23:10] <dmatt> what manager do you use and did you run update?
[23:11] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: i just am looking at the KPackageKit, and i'm not sure if i've run an update...
[23:12] <nUboon2Age> BluesKaj: what does 'static' or 'dynamic' mean in this context?
[23:12] <BluesKaj> nUboon2Age, not sure but some ppl over at #skype chat recommended it for kubuntu , and they were right ...i tried both versions and the static version worked from the get go
[23:13] <nUboon2Age> BluesKaj: so when you look at the web page you provided, which link did you use?
[23:18] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: I'm not sure how to change the repository settings in KPackageKit or why i'm not seeing Skype there.
[23:19] <dmatt> nUboon2Age: BluesKaj: static usually means it has its own libraries. the opposite is shared libraries it is shared by more programs and could be updated anytime
[23:20] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: okay that makes sense, ty
[23:21] <BluesKaj> dmatt, and in my experienc enot work ,after an update/upgrade :P
[23:23] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: BluesKaj: since i haven't been able to figure out how to use KPackageKit to get a deb package i used the link on the web page on the top left, which said Ubuntu 8.10+64 (as opposed to the one further down that says 'Static' but is a .bz file or something)...
[23:23] <dmatt> nUboon2Age: in kpackagekit, choose Settings/Edit software sources
[23:23] <dmatt> you have to enable partner sources
[23:26] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: BluesKaj: the download/ install from the Skype web site didn't work.  it gave an error in KPackageKit (something about 'does not contain the term 'read')
[23:27] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: how do i access 'Settings/Edit ...' i don't see it...
[23:28] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: never mind, i found it...
[23:32] <dmatt> nUboon2Age: look in Other software tab... if it is ticked, close it and choose the icon above ettings (I have it translated to different language, but it might be something like Software update in English)
[23:33] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: i think i found it... right now its trying to reload the package list and its stuck on 55 of 57... waiting...
[23:34] <dmatt> nUboon2Age: it is much easier to explain how to do it in terminal... just 2 commands to update and one to install skype :)
[23:35]  * BluesKaj is not a fan of kpackagekit , synaptic despite being a gnaome app is much superior
[23:35] <dmatt> nUboon2Age: leave it some time, it is running for the first time I suppose... expect lots of updates
[23:35] <BluesKaj> err gnome
[23:35] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: i think i have to let it try to complete the update...
[23:36] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: BluesKaj: its still showing 55 of 57, 99%... i'll try and be patient...
[23:37] <BluesKaj> nUboon2Age, just let it go ... it's good to be patient :)
[23:37] <dmatt> it is trying to connect to some repo, which might be not available
[23:38] <dmatt> nUboon2Age: did you switch from ubuntu or do you have clean kubuntu install from scratch?
[23:39] <BluesKaj> there are some repos that may need to be enabled in software sources, including 3rd party and canonical partners
[23:41] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: BluesKaj: it is a clean wubi install... still at 55 of 57
[23:41] <dmatt> BluesKaj: synaptic is ok, but I usually go straight to apt-get if kpackackekit has troubles
[23:41] <BluesKaj> dmatt, i like synaptic for searches
[23:42] <BluesKaj> but i bnormally use the cli for installation
[23:42] <BluesKaj> err noramally
[23:43] <BluesKaj> rr,, gawd
[23:43] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: BluesKaj: so far the only real complaint i'd have about kpackageKit is that 1) i'm not familiar w/ it (and i'll get through that quickly enough) but 2) i don't see an option right now to have a view of what its doing like Synaptic has...
[23:44] <dmatt> nUboon2Age: what linux you have experiences with?
[23:45] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: i'm a beginner w/ Ubuntu, and little bit of Peppermint.
[23:46] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: BluesKaj: well i'm thinking maybe i should close the download window... and go to cli.. what do y'all think?
[23:47] <dmatt> nUboon2Age: I would say so too
[23:48] <dmatt> nUboon2Age: you were not installing, only refreshing list of packages from repo, right?
[23:48] <BluesKaj> nUboon2Age, ok , but before you run any other commands in the cli, run this one first, sudo dpkg --clear-avail
[23:48] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: yes, that's correct.
[23:49] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: okay did that...
[23:49] <dmatt> sudo apt-get update
[23:50] <dmatt> this one only downloads information about available packages
[23:51] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: did that.  I think it mostly worked except it failed to get some files from the CD (which isn't in the drive and which could be why the KPackageKit was having trouble too)
[23:51] <BluesKaj> nUboon2Age, disable the cdrom in the kpackagekit
[23:52] <dmatt> nUboon2Age: do you have working internet connection?
[23:52] <nUboon2Age> BluesKaj: okay, but do i need to do that now, or just ignore it and go on?
[23:52] <ridin> is there anyway i can get some different window buttons/look, i don't like the oxygen buttons
[23:52] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: yes internet connection working..
[23:52] <dmatt> nUboon2Age: i would say ignore it
[23:53] <BluesKaj> nUboon2Age, do it before  you do apt-get update
[23:53] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: BluesKaj: okay, what is the next step?
[23:53] <dmatt> sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:54] <dmatt> this will bring your system up-to-date
[23:55] <BluesKaj> personally I use aptitude due to it's superior dependency tracking and handling , but to each his own
[23:55] <dmatt> when it finishes, than finally     sudo apt-get install skype
[23:55] <nUboon2Age> BluesKaj: i'll check out aptitude sometime.  i'd heard others say good things about it too...
[23:55] <ridin> is there anyway i can get some different window buttons/look, i don't like the oxygen buttons
[23:56] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: okay doing last step now...
[23:56] <BluesKaj> bbl, gotta setup sprinkler etc
[23:56] <dmatt> BluesKaj: I have seen fail both on different occasion
[23:58] <nUboon2Age> dmatt: BluesKaj: okay, I'm on Skype now... ty both for your help!!!
[23:59] <dmatt> nUboon2Age: there are always at least two working ways how to solve the problem :)