[07:24] <thorwil> morning!
[08:57] <ubuntujenkins> morning
[09:02] <thorwil> morning ubuntujenkins
[09:02] <ubuntujenkins> hey thorwil
[09:04] <thorwil> i wonder why communication regarding the german version with Daniel Schury works so badly
[09:04] <nisshh> thorwil: has anyone noticed that he has asked about it like 3 times now?
[09:05] <thorwil> nisshh: sure. he's aware of that, himself
[09:06] <ubuntujenkins> thorwil: kevin and i worked out some more stuff that needs doing last night I am going to send a reply today
[09:07] <thorwil> ubuntujenkins: good. be sure to send to both list and his address
[09:07] <ubuntujenkins> will do
[09:20] <ubuntujenkins> thorwil: is the word index the same in german and english?
[09:21] <thorwil> ubuntujenkins: yes, but depending on context, a synonym can be preferable
[09:22] <ubuntujenkins> in the manual it is index for the title of the index. What would better?
[09:23] <thorwil> ubuntujenkins: for the index of terms: Stichwortverzeichnis
[09:24] <ubuntujenkins> wow could there be a longer word? I will change it to that
[09:24] <thorwil> literally keyword-directory
[09:26] <thorwil> yeah, german has a tendency for long and complicated terms
[09:27] <ubuntujenkins> thanks
[09:29] <ubuntujenkins> e-mail sent
[09:41] <thorwil> ubuntujenkins: title page = Titelblatt (cover or front page would be Titelseite
[09:41] <thorwil> colophon = Kolophon
[09:42] <thorwil> Creative Commons notice = Creative Commons Hinweis
[09:49] <ubuntujenkins> thanks thorwil
[09:50] <ubuntujenkins> ubuntu devloper week next month
[13:55] <ubuntujenkins> thorwil: which is a better translation ? Creative Commons notice = Creative Commons Hinweis or Creative Commons notice = Creative Commons Notice which has just been sent on the list
[13:57] <thorwil> ubuntujenkins: Hinweis. while Creative Commons as a name shouldn't be translated, it's silly to not translate "notice"
[13:58] <ubuntujenkins> thats what i thought it looks like a few corners are getting cut
[13:58] <ubuntujenkins> i will make sure your version is used
[13:59] <thorwil> ubuntujenkins: for Colophon, both "Kolophon" and "Schlussschrift" are correct. they are both not exactly widely known terms :)  i like the look and sound of "Kolophon" better
[14:00]  * thorwil -> coffee
[14:00] <ubuntujenkins> ok thanks :)
[18:47] <godbyk-android> The next presentation is titled "On-Demand  Creation of Documents Online"
[18:48] <godbyk-android> Might be a bit relevant.
[18:50] <ubuntujenkins> hey godbyk-android later today/tonight when you have a moment tonight cna you talk me though what I need to do to help the german editon on its way. I need to do some phone calls and bits and bobs now
[18:50] <godbyk-android> Sure thing.
[18:52] <godbyk-android> Also all of these talks are being recorded, so they should be online in a week or two.
[18:53] <thorwil> godbyk-android: does that session handle creation of driver licenses and international passports? :)
[18:55] <godbyk-android> Heh, we'll find out when  it starts
[18:55] <godbyk-android> That might be streaming live
[18:56] <godbyk-android> Try river-valley.tv
[18:56] <thorwil> nah, gotta try to do a little work done :)
[18:57] <thorwil> get, even
[18:59] <godbyk-android> U don't see a live stream anyway. Sorry.
[19:15] <godbyk-android> Aha. These are the pedigree folks.. They use latex to create medical pedigrees.
[19:31] <Z-RAY_> after amateur tries to update MLT to 0.5.6 i have left without ffmpeg modules and even ffpmeg is installed, kdenlive says that some not installed at all. also it says that some sound module is not installed. i spent all day to make "lines and dots" bug dissappear (white lines and dots - was promised to be fixed in MLT 0.5.5) and i couldn't make it, even worse - now modules "avformat module", "Quimage module", "Title module" are missing and reinstallin
[19:31] <Z-RAY_> g of the program and ffmpeg does not helping.
[19:31] <Z-RAY_> help me please to make this thing work correctly. my skype is "woanerges", or write me here. please, bro's, come on, i need some support here!
[19:31] <Z-RAY_> white dots and lines examples:
[19:31] <Z-RAY_> http://kdenlive.org/sites/default/files/shot1_0.png
[19:31] <Z-RAY_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrFXr_bx2a0
[19:33] <godbyk-android> Hello, Z-RAY_. I'm afraid we can't provide support in this channel. You might try asking in #ubuntu.
[19:35] <vish> godbyk-android: hmm , he just spammed a lot of channels and might have been set on mode -q   :s
[19:35] <vish> well , maybe not here ;p
[19:36] <godbyk-android> vish: Ah. Fun.
[19:38] <Z-RAY_> sorry guys
[19:39] <Z-RAY_> just everything is so silent
[19:39] <Z-RAY_> kde forums - silence, ubuntuforums - silence, kdenlive forums - silence
[19:39] <vish> Z-RAY_: try asking in #ubuntu or maybe posting in the forums will help?
[19:39] <vish> oh!
[19:40] <vish> Z-RAY_: tried #kubuntu?
[19:40] <Z-RAY_> yes
[19:41] <vish> hrm , well , its times like these when it seems like ubuntu sucks :/
[19:41] <vish> Z-RAY_: hehe , if all else fails re-install , not a word we like to see though;p
[19:42] <godbyk-android> Z-RAY_:  If you think it's a bug, you might file a report through launchpad.
[19:42] <Z-RAY_> :(
[19:42] <Z-RAY_> i spent all day to make my video clip
[19:42] <Z-RAY_> worked so hard
[19:42] <Z-RAY_> and now i can't render my project
[19:44] <godbyk-android> That sucks.
[19:44] <vish> Z-RAY_: you really cant expect an answer within one day of posting your questions/problems on forums ;)  ..
[19:45] <Z-RAY_> yeah
[19:45] <vish> sometimes you get replies , sometimes it takes time
[19:45] <godbyk-android> That's true, it does take time to investigate the problem and find a solution.
[19:45] <Z-RAY_> i've posted a bug about LCD backlight problem
[19:45] <Z-RAY_> more than week ago
[19:45] <Z-RAY_> or two weeks
[19:45] <Z-RAY_> i'm updating it everyday
[19:46] <Z-RAY_> but still no answer
[19:46] <Z-RAY_> thats how they "working on ubuntu to make it better"
[19:47] <Z-RAY_> i can't control intensivity of my LCD backlight on my laptop and this is a serious problem, but on ubuntu no one cares of that (looks like)
[19:47] <Z-RAY_> who knows - maybe i'm not right
[19:48] <zkriesse> Z-RAY_: once again, we don't provide support in this channel. please join #ubuntu
[19:48] <zkriesse> and have patience
[19:48] <godbyk-android> It think they care, but some problems are not as easy too did as one might assumes
[19:48] <godbyk-android> assume, rather.
[19:49] <Z-RAY_> i do have patience, my friend
[19:49] <Z-RAY_> (=
[19:49] <Z-RAY_> sorry, if i made you angry, zkriesse
[19:50] <zkriesse> ya didn't make me angry
[19:50] <zkriesse> just trying to help you not get in trouble
[19:50] <godbyk-android> It is also difficult typo did a bug when you (as the programmer) don't experience it yourself.
[19:50] <zkriesse> godbyk-android: agreed
[19:50] <godbyk-android> typo -> to fix
[19:51] <vish> Z-RAY_: also , your problem is too specific for many to have faced or even know about..
[19:52] <vish> (white lines and dots problem)
[19:55] <Z-RAY_> ok..
[19:55] <Z-RAY_> lines and dots problem :D
[19:56] <Z-RAY_> lines and dots problem is very similar to round stars and bicubic bubbles problem
[19:58] <ubuntujenkins> Z-RAY_: as you have been quitened on #ubuntu can i suggest you rejoin and ask your question in one line and one use of the send button. Then hopefully the floodbot will not "quiten" you
[19:58] <ubuntujenkins> :)
[19:59] <Z-RAY_> i'm not hacker
[19:59] <Z-RAY_> i don't understand what you mean
[20:01] <vish> ubuntujenkins: why you confusing the poor chap .. ;p
[20:02] <ubuntujenkins> well you posted your question in six separate posts. the bot then thinks you are a hacker or a filling the channel with to much and makes it so that your posts are not seen. You need to use a different name as far as i know to avoid the bots. You then need to ask something like " I have tried to update MLT to 0.5.6 however......does any one know anything about this? I have examples if anyone wants to see them
[20:02] <ubuntujenkins> vish: I am trying to help :P I do tend to sonfuse people more though
[20:03] <vish> ubuntujenkins: i was j/k ;p
[20:03] <ubuntujenkins> I know :P
[20:03] <thorwil> ubuntujenkins: sonfuse? now i'm confused ;)
[20:03] <vish> daughterfused!
[20:10] <Z-RAY_> jenkins
[20:10] <Z-RAY_> thanks
[20:10] <Z-RAY_> you are right
[20:10] <Z-RAY_> that's how it must work
[20:11] <Z-RAY_> thanx so much for tips
[20:13] <ubuntujenkins>  no problem have fun and good luck finding a fix
[20:13] <Z-RAY_> yeah
[20:13] <Z-RAY_> good luck finding a chicks
[20:14] <Z-RAY_> chix
[20:22] <vish> argh!
[20:22] <ubuntujenkins> what vish?
[20:23] <vish> ubuntujenkins: well , his response didnt seem friendly though we have been patient with him!
[20:27] <Z-RAY_> :(
[20:27] <Z-RAY_> now what?
[20:28] <Z-RAY_> you will make me feel pain?
[20:28] <Z-RAY_> thank you my friends for trying to help!!
[20:28] <Z-RAY_> now it's good?
[20:28] <vish> Z-RAY_: you may not be a native english speaker , but saying things like  " <Z-RAY_> good luck finding a chicks"
[20:28] <vish> is not polite ;)
[20:29] <Z-RAY_> why?
[20:29] <Z-RAY_> dorry - i didn't knew you are gay
[20:29] <Z-RAY_> it's ok
[20:29] <Z-RAY_> don't worry
[20:29] <Z-RAY_> i understand you
[20:29] <vish> lol!
[20:29] <zkriesse> Z-RAY_: One, completely off topic, and two, we're or they are trying to help you.
[20:29] <vish> Z-RAY_: you are one adorable chap aernt you ;)
[20:30] <zkriesse> The saying, "Don't bite the hand that feeds you" applies here as well
[20:30] <Z-RAY_> don't feed the hand, that spanks yooou
[20:31] <vish> Z-RAY_: i think we have had enough of you .. you may leave
[20:32] <Z-RAY_> how can you think for all those people? are you god?
[20:32] <vish> jussi: around?
[20:33] <Z-RAY_> nope
[20:33] <Z-RAY_> only you
[20:33] <jussi> vish: no :P
[20:33] <jussi> oh, we have the pleasure of Z-RAY_'s company.
[20:33] <Z-RAY_> now you will call your friends to say collectively that some one human is bad?
[20:34] <Z-RAY_> like you are sinless
[20:34] <Z-RAY_> we all are 50% good and 50% bad
[20:34] <ubuntujenkins> thank you jussi
[20:34]  * pleia2 hugs jussi 
[20:35] <jussi> Z-RAY_: please remember to follow the guidelines
[20:35] <ubuntujenkins> we all do i need to sort out getting ops here
[20:35] <vish> yay jussi
[20:35] <ubuntujenkins> I had the command ready to go just needed op for a bot :(
[20:35]  * ubuntujenkins e-mails humphreybc
[20:36] <jussi> I can get it sorted
[20:36] <jussi> but Id rather humphreybc did it
[20:37] <ubuntujenkins> ok cool if he does not know how to do it i will ping you if thats ok
[20:37] <ubuntujenkins> with him here to tell you its ok
[20:40] <jussi> ubuntujenkins: yeah, just get him to name some people
[20:41] <ubuntujenkins> jussi we have ops but none are here atm :(
[20:41] <jussi> ubuntujenkins: then you need more :) (I saw the access list)
[20:43] <vish> ubuntujenkins: did we forget to ping godbyk ..
[20:45] <ubuntujenkins> no i pm'd him
[20:45] <vish> ah, yeah you mentioned :)
[22:34] <ubuntujenkins> c7p: ping
[22:35] <c7p> ubuntujenkins: hey
[22:35] <ubuntujenkins> hey c7p i jsut wanted to ask how the greek edition was going?
[22:36] <c7p> well it's almost finished
[22:37] <c7p> i can't do anything else by myself, so we are waiting kevin for the final arrangements
[22:38] <brandonj> anybody else get a spam email via the mailing list?
[22:38] <ubuntujenkins> what are we missing now then?
[22:38] <ubuntujenkins> brandonj: such as?
[22:38] <ubuntujenkins> not me as far as i can tell
[22:39] <ubuntujenkins> wow i am lagging tonight
[22:39] <zkriesse> brandonj: the pretty store thing?
[22:39] <zkriesse> brandonj: yeah i got it
[22:39] <brandonj> yeah, thats the one
[22:40] <ubuntujenkins> I had 5 e-mails today, one yesterday and five the day before
[22:40] <brandonj> this one just came in a few minutes ago
[22:42] <ubuntujenkins> let me just refresh evolution
[22:42] <zkriesse> ubuntujenkins: EVOLUTION?!?!?!!??!?! WTF?!?!?! use thunderbird
[22:42] <brandonj> gmail...
[22:42] <zkriesse> lol
[22:42] <c7p> ubuntujenkins: the issues that should deal with are 1) warnings (kevin will ensure that everything is ok) 2)glossary entries reference number (topo fixed it but I don't know if Kevin approved his method)
[22:43] <ubuntujenkins> I have not used thunderbird in a while does it give nice bubbles when you get messages?
[22:43] <zkriesse> well...
[22:43] <zkriesse> thunderbird is more business than play
[22:44] <ubuntujenkins> c7p: I spoke to kevin about warnings I wonder if i can find the logs or if we pm'd for some reason
[22:45] <c7p> "pm'd" ?
[22:46] <ubuntujenkins> private message. I think we were talking about something else and then got onto the warnings
[22:46] <ubuntujenkins> zkriesse: is there a thunderbird ppa?
[22:47] <zkriesse> ubuntujenkins: 10.04 'buntu?
[22:47] <zkriesse> if so it's in the software center
[22:47] <c7p> ubuntujenkins: oh yes, but what?
[22:47] <ubuntujenkins> as for the spam it hit google mails spam filter i know who that is so i will chat with them i guess their password has been hacked
[22:48] <ubuntujenkins> or they gave a website to much info
[22:48] <ubuntujenkins> zkriesse: for a more uptodat one
[22:48] <ubuntujenkins> c7p: i am just waiting for my itnernet to catch up
[22:48] <zkriesse> ubuntujenkins: ah that should be the most recent available
[22:49] <c7p> ubuntujenkins: don't worry I'll find the logs
[22:49] <ubuntujenkins> c7p: check out http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/elerrors
[22:49] <ubuntujenkins> kevin has commented on them all
[22:51] <ubuntujenkins> c7p: do we know how topo fixed the the glossary stuff?
[22:51] <c7p> nice thx
[22:51] <c7p> yes he altered manually some files
[22:52] <ubuntujenkins> godbyk-android: ping
[22:52] <ubuntujenkins> do we know which ones?
[22:54] <c7p> let me check his mail
[22:55] <ubuntujenkins> that way i can check with kevin when i next talk to him
[22:56] <c7p> he changed some .glo and gls files
[22:57] <c7p> i am requesting this files and when I receive them I'll send them to you
[22:57] <ubuntujenkins> thanks c7p I will see what we can do
[22:58] <c7p> btw I think topo finished the job :P
[22:58] <ubuntujenkins> hehe
[22:59] <ubuntujenkins> yea i just want to look to see what he has done thats all.
[23:00] <ubuntujenkins> my only concern is that stuff is auto generated iirc and i don't know how it is effected when building
[23:01] <c7p> yes offcourse this is the way things should go
[23:02] <c7p> have you fixed the Japanese index bug on your system ?
[23:02] <ubuntujenkins> no not yet and a really don't want to have to download the old way. I have a download limit at home
[23:03] <c7p> :/ that sux
[23:03] <c7p> italic numerals are i, ii, iii, iv ... etc ?
[23:03] <ubuntujenkins> brandonj: was that the only spam you were asking about or are there others?
[23:04] <brandonj> ubuntujenkins: no, that was the only one I've gotten
[23:04] <ubuntujenkins> c7p: erm i thought italic was text at a slant
[23:04] <brandonj> roman numerals are i, ii, iii, etc
[23:04] <ubuntujenkins> brandonj: cool, hopefully that will be the first and last of it
[23:04] <c7p> ok
[23:05] <ubuntujenkins> yea thats it roman numerals. brain balnk for amoment
[23:09] <c7p> so we have to locate italic numerals on official Ubuntu Manual (english) and then see if everything looks fine on the Greek one, right ?
[23:12] <ubuntujenkins> c7p: i don't know what an italic numeral is appaerntly they are real. and not a number that is slanted
[23:13] <ubuntujenkins> c7p: look at error 2 that might be what we need to do to fix the glossary
[23:14] <ubuntujenkins> I am googling italic numerals
[23:14] <godbyk-android> Italic numeral us just a slanted numeral.
[23:15] <ubuntujenkins> hey godbyk-android
[23:15] <godbyk-android> Edited the glossary files is general nit the best  route as they get regenerated all the time.
[23:15] <ubuntujenkins> well that does make sense then
[23:16] <ubuntujenkins> wow our latest team member is Ubuntu Yemen LoCo Team
[23:16] <zkriesse> ubuntujenkins: cool
[23:17] <zkriesse> hmm
[23:19] <ubuntujenkins> thats what i figured kevin
[23:20] <c7p> ubuntujenkins: all the references have already been checked and the bugs have been submitted :)
[23:21] <ubuntujenkins> ok so we have very little left to do. italic numerals and re run xelatex a few times
[23:21] <c7p> oh yes :D
[23:22] <c7p> which is the whole command (:D) ?
[23:24] <ubuntujenkins> godbyk-android: I can't do it as i still have my bug, cam you run those commands when you have time
[23:25] <zkriesse> hello rickspencer3
[23:27] <c7p> hey topo :P
[23:27] <Guest57355> hey c7p
[23:27] <Guest57355> i just answered to your email
[23:29] <c7p> yap i checked
[23:29] <c7p> it
[23:31] <Guest57355> keep a backup if your going to try yourself :P
[23:32] <c7p> sure :D
[23:34] <c7p> ubuntujenkins: how do you select your url on http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/ ? e.g (http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/translationtodo)
[23:35] <ubuntujenkins> c7p: just type what you want it to be and then if it is free it will give you a create pad page
[23:35] <c7p> ok thx
[23:44] <c7p> ubuntujenkins: http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/YknjBKBNG8
[23:45] <ubuntujenkins> wow thats simple :P
[23:45] <ubuntujenkins> I will have ago in the morning
[23:47] <c7p> ubuntujenkins: could you submit for me the ubnntu-manual-el.tex file to the lucid-e1 branch ?
[23:48] <ubuntujenkins> i will mail it you I have the one from kevin
[23:48] <c7p> I have many conflicts and i can't deal with it, bazzar doesn't approve experiments on lucid-e1 folder :P
[23:48] <c7p> i have corrected some translations and removed the extra page (actually topo did)
[23:49] <ubuntujenkins> sent
[23:50] <c7p> okey thx
[23:53] <c7p> from what i see the page is removed from kevin's tex file
[23:54] <c7p> the files only differ on the colophon where I corrected the translations
[23:55] <ubuntujenkins> coll, just e-mail kevin and i the new one
[23:55] <ubuntujenkins> *cool
[23:55] <c7p> okey
[23:56] <c7p> i have to go to sleep :) it's 2:00 here ... g' night all
[23:56] <c7p> cu tomorrow :)
[23:57] <ubuntujenkins> nigh c7p