[07:24] morning! [08:57] morning [09:02] morning ubuntujenkins [09:02] hey thorwil [09:04] i wonder why communication regarding the german version with Daniel Schury works so badly [09:04] thorwil: has anyone noticed that he has asked about it like 3 times now? [09:05] nisshh: sure. he's aware of that, himself [09:06] thorwil: kevin and i worked out some more stuff that needs doing last night I am going to send a reply today [09:07] ubuntujenkins: good. be sure to send to both list and his address [09:07] will do [09:20] thorwil: is the word index the same in german and english? [09:21] ubuntujenkins: yes, but depending on context, a synonym can be preferable [09:22] in the manual it is index for the title of the index. What would better? [09:23] ubuntujenkins: for the index of terms: Stichwortverzeichnis [09:24] wow could there be a longer word? I will change it to that [09:24] literally keyword-directory [09:26] yeah, german has a tendency for long and complicated terms [09:27] thanks [09:29] e-mail sent [09:41] ubuntujenkins: title page = Titelblatt (cover or front page would be Titelseite [09:41] colophon = Kolophon [09:42] Creative Commons notice = Creative Commons Hinweis [09:49] thanks thorwil [09:50] ubuntu devloper week next month [13:55] thorwil: which is a better translation ? Creative Commons notice = Creative Commons Hinweis or Creative Commons notice = Creative Commons Notice which has just been sent on the list [13:57] ubuntujenkins: Hinweis. while Creative Commons as a name shouldn't be translated, it's silly to not translate "notice" [13:58] thats what i thought it looks like a few corners are getting cut [13:58] i will make sure your version is used [13:59] ubuntujenkins: for Colophon, both "Kolophon" and "Schlussschrift" are correct. they are both not exactly widely known terms :) i like the look and sound of "Kolophon" better [14:00] * thorwil -> coffee [14:00] ok thanks :) === ubuntujenkins1 is now known as ubuntujenkins [18:47] The next presentation is titled "On-Demand Creation of Documents Online" [18:48] Might be a bit relevant. [18:50] hey godbyk-android later today/tonight when you have a moment tonight cna you talk me though what I need to do to help the german editon on its way. I need to do some phone calls and bits and bobs now [18:50] Sure thing. [18:52] Also all of these talks are being recorded, so they should be online in a week or two. [18:53] godbyk-android: does that session handle creation of driver licenses and international passports? :) [18:55] Heh, we'll find out when it starts [18:55] That might be streaming live [18:56] Try river-valley.tv [18:56] nah, gotta try to do a little work done :) [18:57] get, even [18:59] U don't see a live stream anyway. Sorry. [19:15] Aha. These are the pedigree folks.. They use latex to create medical pedigrees. [19:31] after amateur tries to update MLT to 0.5.6 i have left without ffmpeg modules and even ffpmeg is installed, kdenlive says that some not installed at all. also it says that some sound module is not installed. i spent all day to make "lines and dots" bug dissappear (white lines and dots - was promised to be fixed in MLT 0.5.5) and i couldn't make it, even worse - now modules "avformat module", "Quimage module", "Title module" are missing and reinstallin [19:31] g of the program and ffmpeg does not helping. [19:31] help me please to make this thing work correctly. my skype is "woanerges", or write me here. please, bro's, come on, i need some support here! [19:31] white dots and lines examples: [19:31] http://kdenlive.org/sites/default/files/shot1_0.png [19:31] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrFXr_bx2a0 [19:33] Hello, Z-RAY_. I'm afraid we can't provide support in this channel. You might try asking in #ubuntu. [19:35] godbyk-android: hmm , he just spammed a lot of channels and might have been set on mode -q :s [19:35] well , maybe not here ;p [19:36] vish: Ah. Fun. [19:38] sorry guys [19:39] just everything is so silent [19:39] kde forums - silence, ubuntuforums - silence, kdenlive forums - silence [19:39] Z-RAY_: try asking in #ubuntu or maybe posting in the forums will help? [19:39] oh! [19:40] Z-RAY_: tried #kubuntu? [19:40] yes [19:41] hrm , well , its times like these when it seems like ubuntu sucks :/ [19:41] Z-RAY_: hehe , if all else fails re-install , not a word we like to see though;p [19:42] Z-RAY_: If you think it's a bug, you might file a report through launchpad. [19:42] :( [19:42] i spent all day to make my video clip [19:42] worked so hard [19:42] and now i can't render my project [19:44] That sucks. [19:44] Z-RAY_: you really cant expect an answer within one day of posting your questions/problems on forums ;) .. [19:45] yeah [19:45] sometimes you get replies , sometimes it takes time [19:45] That's true, it does take time to investigate the problem and find a solution. [19:45] i've posted a bug about LCD backlight problem [19:45] more than week ago [19:45] or two weeks [19:45] i'm updating it everyday [19:46] but still no answer [19:46] thats how they "working on ubuntu to make it better" [19:47] i can't control intensivity of my LCD backlight on my laptop and this is a serious problem, but on ubuntu no one cares of that (looks like) [19:47] who knows - maybe i'm not right [19:48] Z-RAY_: once again, we don't provide support in this channel. please join #ubuntu [19:48] and have patience [19:48] It think they care, but some problems are not as easy too did as one might assumes [19:48] assume, rather. [19:49] i do have patience, my friend [19:49] (= [19:49] sorry, if i made you angry, zkriesse [19:50] ya didn't make me angry [19:50] just trying to help you not get in trouble [19:50] It is also difficult typo did a bug when you (as the programmer) don't experience it yourself. [19:50] godbyk-android: agreed [19:50] typo -> to fix [19:51] Z-RAY_: also , your problem is too specific for many to have faced or even know about.. [19:52] (white lines and dots problem) [19:55] ok.. [19:55] lines and dots problem :D [19:56] lines and dots problem is very similar to round stars and bicubic bubbles problem [19:58] Z-RAY_: as you have been quitened on #ubuntu can i suggest you rejoin and ask your question in one line and one use of the send button. Then hopefully the floodbot will not "quiten" you [19:58] :) [19:59] i'm not hacker [19:59] i don't understand what you mean [20:01] ubuntujenkins: why you confusing the poor chap .. ;p [20:02] well you posted your question in six separate posts. the bot then thinks you are a hacker or a filling the channel with to much and makes it so that your posts are not seen. You need to use a different name as far as i know to avoid the bots. You then need to ask something like " I have tried to update MLT to 0.5.6 however......does any one know anything about this? I have examples if anyone wants to see them [20:02] vish: I am trying to help :P I do tend to sonfuse people more though [20:03] ubuntujenkins: i was j/k ;p [20:03] I know :P [20:03] ubuntujenkins: sonfuse? now i'm confused ;) [20:03] daughterfused! [20:10] jenkins [20:10] thanks [20:10] you are right [20:10] that's how it must work [20:11] thanx so much for tips [20:13] no problem have fun and good luck finding a fix [20:13] yeah [20:13] good luck finding a chicks [20:14] chix [20:22] argh! [20:22] what vish? [20:23] ubuntujenkins: well , his response didnt seem friendly though we have been patient with him! [20:27] :( [20:27] now what? [20:28] you will make me feel pain? [20:28] thank you my friends for trying to help!! [20:28] now it's good? [20:28] Z-RAY_: you may not be a native english speaker , but saying things like " good luck finding a chicks" [20:28] is not polite ;) [20:29] why? [20:29] dorry - i didn't knew you are gay [20:29] it's ok [20:29] don't worry [20:29] i understand you [20:29] lol! [20:29] Z-RAY_: One, completely off topic, and two, we're or they are trying to help you. [20:29] Z-RAY_: you are one adorable chap aernt you ;) [20:30] The saying, "Don't bite the hand that feeds you" applies here as well [20:30] don't feed the hand, that spanks yooou [20:31] Z-RAY_: i think we have had enough of you .. you may leave [20:32] how can you think for all those people? are you god? [20:32] jussi: around? [20:33] nope [20:33] only you [20:33] vish: no :P [20:33] oh, we have the pleasure of Z-RAY_'s company. [20:33] now you will call your friends to say collectively that some one human is bad? [20:34] like you are sinless [20:34] we all are 50% good and 50% bad [20:34] thank you jussi [20:34] * pleia2 hugs jussi [20:35] Z-RAY_: please remember to follow the guidelines [20:35] we all do i need to sort out getting ops here [20:35] yay jussi [20:35] I had the command ready to go just needed op for a bot :( [20:35] * ubuntujenkins e-mails humphreybc [20:36] I can get it sorted [20:36] but Id rather humphreybc did it [20:37] ok cool if he does not know how to do it i will ping you if thats ok [20:37] with him here to tell you its ok [20:40] ubuntujenkins: yeah, just get him to name some people [20:41] jussi we have ops but none are here atm :( [20:41] ubuntujenkins: then you need more :) (I saw the access list) [20:43] ubuntujenkins: did we forget to ping godbyk .. [20:45] no i pm'd him [20:45] ah, yeah you mentioned :) === topo is now known as Guest19769 [22:34] c7p: ping [22:35] ubuntujenkins: hey [22:35] hey c7p i jsut wanted to ask how the greek edition was going? [22:36] well it's almost finished [22:37] i can't do anything else by myself, so we are waiting kevin for the final arrangements [22:38] anybody else get a spam email via the mailing list? [22:38] what are we missing now then? [22:38] brandonj: such as? [22:38] not me as far as i can tell [22:39] wow i am lagging tonight [22:39] brandonj: the pretty store thing? [22:39] brandonj: yeah i got it [22:39] yeah, thats the one [22:40] I had 5 e-mails today, one yesterday and five the day before [22:40] this one just came in a few minutes ago [22:42] let me just refresh evolution [22:42] ubuntujenkins: EVOLUTION?!?!?!!??!?! WTF?!?!?! use thunderbird [22:42] gmail... [22:42] lol [22:42] ubuntujenkins: the issues that should deal with are 1) warnings (kevin will ensure that everything is ok) 2)glossary entries reference number (topo fixed it but I don't know if Kevin approved his method) [22:43] I have not used thunderbird in a while does it give nice bubbles when you get messages? [22:43] well... [22:43] thunderbird is more business than play [22:44] c7p: I spoke to kevin about warnings I wonder if i can find the logs or if we pm'd for some reason [22:45] "pm'd" ? [22:46] private message. I think we were talking about something else and then got onto the warnings [22:46] zkriesse: is there a thunderbird ppa? [22:47] ubuntujenkins: 10.04 'buntu? [22:47] if so it's in the software center [22:47] ubuntujenkins: oh yes, but what? [22:47] as for the spam it hit google mails spam filter i know who that is so i will chat with them i guess their password has been hacked [22:48] or they gave a website to much info [22:48] zkriesse: for a more uptodat one [22:48] c7p: i am just waiting for my itnernet to catch up [22:48] ubuntujenkins: ah that should be the most recent available [22:49] ubuntujenkins: don't worry I'll find the logs [22:49] c7p: check out http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/elerrors [22:49] kevin has commented on them all [22:51] c7p: do we know how topo fixed the the glossary stuff? [22:51] nice thx [22:51] yes he altered manually some files [22:52] godbyk-android: ping [22:52] do we know which ones? [22:54] let me check his mail [22:55] that way i can check with kevin when i next talk to him [22:56] he changed some .glo and gls files [22:57] i am requesting this files and when I receive them I'll send them to you [22:57] thanks c7p I will see what we can do [22:58] btw I think topo finished the job :P [22:58] hehe [22:59] yea i just want to look to see what he has done thats all. [23:00] my only concern is that stuff is auto generated iirc and i don't know how it is effected when building [23:01] yes offcourse this is the way things should go [23:02] have you fixed the Japanese index bug on your system ? [23:02] no not yet and a really don't want to have to download the old way. I have a download limit at home [23:03] :/ that sux [23:03] italic numerals are i, ii, iii, iv ... etc ? [23:03] brandonj: was that the only spam you were asking about or are there others? [23:04] ubuntujenkins: no, that was the only one I've gotten [23:04] c7p: erm i thought italic was text at a slant [23:04] roman numerals are i, ii, iii, etc [23:04] brandonj: cool, hopefully that will be the first and last of it [23:04] ok [23:05] yea thats it roman numerals. brain balnk for amoment [23:09] so we have to locate italic numerals on official Ubuntu Manual (english) and then see if everything looks fine on the Greek one, right ? [23:12] c7p: i don't know what an italic numeral is appaerntly they are real. and not a number that is slanted [23:13] c7p: look at error 2 that might be what we need to do to fix the glossary [23:14] I am googling italic numerals [23:14] Italic numeral us just a slanted numeral. [23:15] hey godbyk-android [23:15] Edited the glossary files is general nit the best route as they get regenerated all the time. [23:15] well that does make sense then [23:16] wow our latest team member is Ubuntu Yemen LoCo Team [23:16] ubuntujenkins: cool [23:17] hmm [23:19] thats what i figured kevin [23:20] ubuntujenkins: all the references have already been checked and the bugs have been submitted :) [23:21] ok so we have very little left to do. italic numerals and re run xelatex a few times [23:21] oh yes :D [23:22] which is the whole command (:D) ? [23:24] godbyk-android: I can't do it as i still have my bug, cam you run those commands when you have time [23:25] hello rickspencer3 === topo is now known as Guest57355 [23:27] hey topo :P [23:27] hey c7p [23:27] i just answered to your email [23:29] yap i checked [23:29] it [23:31] keep a backup if your going to try yourself :P [23:32] sure :D [23:34] ubuntujenkins: how do you select your url on http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/ ? e.g (http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/translationtodo) [23:35] c7p: just type what you want it to be and then if it is free it will give you a create pad page [23:35] ok thx [23:44] ubuntujenkins: http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/YknjBKBNG8 [23:45] wow thats simple :P [23:45] I will have ago in the morning [23:47] ubuntujenkins: could you submit for me the ubnntu-manual-el.tex file to the lucid-e1 branch ? [23:48] i will mail it you I have the one from kevin [23:48] I have many conflicts and i can't deal with it, bazzar doesn't approve experiments on lucid-e1 folder :P [23:48] i have corrected some translations and removed the extra page (actually topo did) [23:49] sent [23:50] okey thx [23:53] from what i see the page is removed from kevin's tex file [23:54] the files only differ on the colophon where I corrected the translations [23:55] coll, just e-mail kevin and i the new one [23:55] *cool [23:55] okey [23:56] i have to go to sleep :) it's 2:00 here ... g' night all [23:56] cu tomorrow :) [23:57] nigh c7p