| Lantizia | Laaa la laa please build TB3.1 laaaa la alala alaalaal laaa | 01:22 |
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| Lantizia | laaa | 01:22 |
| bobby_ | So... Anyone know a date for 4.0 Beta 1? | 03:01 |
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| ddecator | Lantizia: we're backed up because the team is basically 2-3 people and the backporting of firefox is a lot of work. once that's done, tb 3.1 is high on the list | 04:24 |
| micahg | ddecator: FF3.7 rename just got bumped :) | 04:25 |
| ddecator | micahg: finally :D | 04:25 |
| micahg | ddecator: you want to try to do it? | 04:25 |
| ddecator | micahg: what all does it entail? | 04:25 |
| micahg | ddecator: basically, any of the packaging that says 3.7 becomes 4.0 for Firefox and Xulrunner 1.9.3 becomes 2.0.0 | 04:26 |
| micahg | or just 2.0 | 04:26 |
| micahg | no, 2.0.0 | 04:26 |
| micahg | no, 2.0 :) | 04:26 |
| ddecator | :p | 04:26 |
| ddecator | micahg: yah, i can give that a shot | 04:26 |
| micahg | ddecator: document in the changelog what you change | 04:27 |
| ddecator | micahg: should i just do an entry for "bump up to 4.0" then list the files changed under it? | 04:27 |
| micahg | ddecator: no, just change the source package name to firefox-4.0 and cahnge the version | 04:28 |
| ddecator | micahg: in the main line you mean? right, i mean should i have a "* Version bump to 4.0" or something like that then list what files i updated under it? "- update debian/rules" etc. | 04:30 |
| micahg | ddecator: in the commit comment you can say that, but in the changelog, it doesn't need it | 04:31 |
| micahg | ddecator: take a look at how fta did the changelog for the 3.7 bump | 04:32 |
| ddecator | micahg: good point :) | 04:32 |
| ddecator | micahg: i'll start working on that | 04:32 |
| micahg | ddecator: great, thanks, it'll probably break tonight | 04:33 |
| ddecator | micahg: right. so the package name will stay -3.7 or does that need to change too? | 04:33 |
| micahg | ddecator: no, change it to 4.0 and add a Replaces: firefox-3.7 in each of the binary packages in control | 04:34 |
| micahg | ddecator: Replaces: firefox-3.7* <--- whatever the binary is -dbg, -gnome-support | 04:35 |
| ddecator | micahg: ok, i think i get it. i'll do that first so i can have you check it for me | 04:35 |
| micahg | ddecator: nah, that's easy, just add a commit at the end for it | 04:35 |
| ddecator | micahg: k | 04:36 |
| ddecator | ah, good, all of the changes from 3.6 -> 3.7 are right on loggerhead so i have a good reference :) | 04:40 |
| ddecator | micahg: what should i do with the abrowser listings in /control? do those get bumped up to 4.0 too? | 04:43 |
| micahg | ddecator: yep, same thing | 04:43 |
| ddecator | micahg: k | 04:44 |
| micahg | ddecator: tomorrow night will break :) | 04:54 |
| ddecator | micahg: ? | 04:54 |
| micahg | ddecator: tonight's upload was fine | 04:54 |
| ddecator | micahg: ah, gotcha :) | 04:54 |
| ddecator | micahg: btw, should i take care of xr1.9.3 -> xr2.0 or are you going to do that? | 04:56 |
| micahg | ddecator: please take care of it if you can, I have a lot going on | 04:56 |
| ddecator | micahg: sure thing :) | 04:56 |
| ddecator | that's why i asked | 04:56 |
| micahg | ddecator: thanks | 04:57 |
| ddecator | micahg: ok, firefox-3.7-shiretoko.desktop, do we have a 4.0 name that i can change that to? | 05:11 |
| micahg | ddecator: I don't know if there is one yet | 05:12 |
| ddecator | micahg: what should i do with that file? | 05:13 |
| micahg | ddecator: you can change to 4.0, but there's no codename yet AFAIK | 05:13 |
| ddecator | micahg: k, thanks | 05:14 |
| ddecator | micahg: ok, and what is the xulrunner branch? there is no lp:xulrunner...so do i have to pull xulrunner-1.9.3 and work with that? | 05:33 |
| micahg | ddecator: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/xulrunner/xulrunner-1.9.3.head | 05:33 |
| ddecator | micahg: thanks | 05:33 |
| micahg | ddecator: I have to get asac to change the owner to Mozilla Team :) | 05:33 |
| ddecator | xr2.0 is already b2? huh.. | 06:20 |
| micahg | ddecator: b1 was tagged tonight | 06:23 |
| ddecator | micahg: ah :) | 06:23 |
| ddecator | woot, looks like the patches still apply | 06:35 |
| micahg | ddecator: same branch :) | 06:36 |
| ddecator | micahg: yah, just wasn't sure. when sb jumped up to 2.0 they made a bunch of other changes at the same time, wasn't sure if i'd have a repeat of that :p | 06:36 |
| ddecator | micahg: ...i just realized something. should xr2.0 replace xr1.9.3? idk if anything else uses 1.9.3 | 06:38 |
| micahg | ddecator: yes | 06:38 |
| ddecator | micahg: ok, good, that's how i set it up :p | 06:38 |
| ddecator | oh, FF 4 has taller tabs... | 08:51 |
| ddecator | ah, there we go.. | 08:53 |
| ddecator | disabled all of my add-ons :( | 08:53 |
| BUGabundo_remote | morning | 08:58 |
| ddecator | morning BUGabundo_remote | 09:04 |
| ddecator | i really hope "Mozilla Developer Preview" doesn't stick as the name for the FF 4 beta.. | 09:24 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: boing | 10:46 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: sorry for the pain england had to endure :-P | 10:46 |
| chrisccoulson | hi asac ;) | 10:46 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: on maverick ffox 3.6 daily or something is really hanging a lot | 10:46 |
| chrisccoulson | we deserved it really, england were pretty terrible | 10:46 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: maybe a bad sqlite version? | 10:46 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: yeah. well. it was a big mistake that we even got in the situation where someone could claim that 2:2 would have made a difference (could be!) | 10:47 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - thanks. i'll take a look when i get the chance. i don't notice these things as i'm not running maverick yet ;) | 10:47 |
| asac | e.g. at that time england was really good | 10:47 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: yeah. just wanted to let you know. its really terrible ;) | 10:47 |
| asac | every few operations it hangs hard ... ghosting etc. | 10:48 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - and thats just affecting the dailies? (ie, not the in-archive version) | 10:48 |
| asac | then continuing. not only while loading, but also while typing in gmail etc. | 10:48 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: i assume its also a problem in the archive version. let me see | 10:48 |
| chrisccoulson | ok, thanks | 10:48 |
| chrisccoulson | i need to hurry up and finish this backporting work, so i can upgrade to maverick ;) | 10:48 |
| chrisccoulson | i can't really afford any down-time atm though | 10:48 |
| asac | ack | 10:49 |
| asac | its not a big problem (if you dont see it in lucid ;)) | 10:49 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm stil trying to figure out why epiphany doesn't shut down properly any more in hardy :-/ | 10:50 |
| chrisccoulson | wow, we have some rain! | 10:52 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: i think epiphany had crash bugs on window close in hardy anyway before ;) | 10:58 |
| asac | but usually it means that some thread is kept alive etc. | 10:58 |
| asac | or even the mainloop ;) | 10:58 |
| asac | i know that is not really helpful ... but still :-P | 10:58 |
| asac | shame on me ... i didnt even have the security ppa enabled ;) | 11:02 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: oh ... if upstream is out you can always push to maverick to get more exposoure | 11:03 |
| asac | even if staging takes a bit longer ... at least thats what i usually did ;) | 11:03 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - yeah, i uploaded 3.6.6 to maverick yesterday | 11:03 |
| asac | ok. so my apt cache was too old ;) | 11:05 |
| asac | oh there is no maverick in security ppa? | 11:05 |
| asac | ok got 3.6.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 | 11:06 |
| Dimmuxx | will firefox 4.0b1 build1 be built in any of the ppas? | 12:02 |
| gnomefreak | it will be but right now we havent changed the versioning of 3.7. 3.7==4.0 | 12:03 |
| gnomefreak | right now 3.6 is #1 on the list of things to do | 12:04 |
| gnomefreak | Dimmuxx: you are best off posting to our mailing list | 12:04 |
| gnomefreak | or wait for Micah | 12:04 |
| Dimmuxx | okay will do | 12:05 |
| gnomefreak | finally got around to fixing my jabber account | 12:53 |
| fta | amd6413 9455 jobs (four days) | 12:59 |
| fta | i38614 17437 jobs (five days) | 12:59 |
| fta | *sigh* another full test rebuild :( | 12:59 |
| asac | those are usually having really low prio | 13:01 |
| fta | asac, my ch builds are scheduled to start in 19h | 13:02 |
| fta | so bye-bye the dailies | 13:03 |
| asac | fta: wait a bit. the scheduler is a bit confused most likely | 13:03 |
| asac | just see what happens ;) | 13:03 |
| asac | i assume normal uploads will go first ... maybe they said 3 bulders or so get the rebuild now or something | 13:04 |
| asac | if they did anything at all to speed those builds up | 13:04 |
| asac | my build is also waiting :( | 13:10 |
| asac | and it was an important one ;) | 13:10 |
| gnomefreak | tb has a mind of its own. the editor loaded without an address field so i know i didnt click anything for it and tb is not loaded just that one window | 13:16 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: I plan to release lucid and hardy within a couple/few hours (more testing). is that still ok? what is going on with epiphany? | 14:15 |
| ddecator | Dimmuxx: i made the changes from 3.7 -> 4.0 last night, i just need to get everything setup the right way so it can be merged into the daily PPA. with any luck, it'll be merged tonight | 14:18 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - that should be ok. i don't think that i'll have epiphany fixed though | 14:19 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm still trying to understand what is happening during shutdown | 14:19 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: that's fine. I will file a bug and release note that it is being orked on | 14:19 |
| Dimmuxx | ddecator: nice, but will there be beta ppa with 4.0 betas since I rather stay on betas than using daylies | 14:19 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - thanks | 14:20 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not being helped by my laptop this week. it slows to a crawl every time i try to do something in kvm | 14:20 |
| jdstrand | :( | 14:20 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: is this totem specific or all plugins? | 14:21 |
| jdstrand | (I think the latter) | 14:21 |
| ddecator | Dimmuxx: afaik, the milestone PPAs haven't been setup yet, so there are just stable and daily PPAs. i know the plan was to setup one at some point though | 14:21 |
| Dimmuxx | what about security? 3.6.4 rc builds were there after all | 14:22 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - it affects all plugins, but will only be noticeable with plugins that spawn an external helper | 14:23 |
| jdstrand | k | 14:24 |
| ddecator | Dimmuxx: what do you mean? why don't we do it as a security update? | 14:24 |
| chrisccoulson_ | bah, i give up with my laptop now ;) | 14:26 |
| Dimmuxx | ddecator: nah I really don't know what I meant. ;) But since you put rc builds of 3.6.4 there which were just sent out to beta users(win/osx) I thought that perhaps 4.0 betas could be there too. But the best solution would be a beta ppa like with chromium | 14:27 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: fyi, filed as bug #599796 | 14:27 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 599796 in epiphany-browser (Ubuntu Jaunty) (and 3 other projects) "plugins are not killed on browser close after viewing embedded media (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/599796 | 14:27 |
| chrisccoulson_ | jdstrand, thanks | 14:27 |
| ddecator | Dimmuxx: right, that's what the plan is. we'll eventually make a PPA that is either updated with every beta release, or is updated starting with each alpha release (not sure of the exact plan, micah knows about it) | 14:29 |
| Dimmuxx | ddecator: nice, I assume you don't know any eta on it? :) | 14:30 |
| ddecator | Dimmuxx: well, backporting firefox 3.6 isn't done, after that thunderbird 3.1 is high on the list...i'm not sure how long it would take to setup, but it won't be for a while yet | 14:32 |
| Dimmuxx | maybe in time for final 4.0b1 then | 14:32 |
| ddecator | doubt it, the daily is up to b2 already, so if b1 hasn't been released yet it will be soon :) | 14:33 |
| Dimmuxx | 3.6.4 was in rc mode for a month at least so you never know with mozilla | 14:34 |
| Dimmuxx | I think the current eta is at least 1 week away. | 14:35 |
| jdstrand | Dimmuxx: I will be publishing 3.6.6 for hardy and lucid today | 14:35 |
| jdstrand | jaunty and karmic are at least 1 week away (due to openjdk) | 14:36 |
| ddecator | jdstrand: oh nice, i had someone ask me about that last night | 14:36 |
| Dimmuxx | jdstrand: aha so maybe two weeks then? ;) | 14:37 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - i still need to get the xulrunner apps in karmic ported to 1.9.2 too, but that should fit nicely alongside the openjdk work | 14:38 |
| jdstrand | ddecator, Dimmuxx: it is a complicated update, to say the least. the publication status (ie what is blocking USN publication) is being tracked in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Firefox3.6.4Upgrade/SecurityPublication | 14:41 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: yeah | 14:41 |
| ddecator | jdstrand: yah, i know at least the dependecies have been giving you all trouble. thanks :) | 14:41 |
| Dimmuxx | jdstrand: heh that doesn't look fun | 14:45 |
| jdstrand | yeah, and that only covers the stuff I've been focusing on. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Firefox3.6.4Upgrade and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Lucid/FirefoxNewSupportModel/xulrunner-list for what the mozilla team has been working on | 14:47 |
| DarrenW | hey folks :) does anyone know if thunderbird 3.1 will make it's way into the thunderbird stable ppa? | 14:50 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - do you think i should upload openjdk again? | 15:13 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: sure, one of them should be fine, now that all the firefox's are done (excepting ia64) | 15:14 |
| jdstrand | s/'// | 15:14 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - i think i'm getting somewhere with epiphany now | 15:25 |
| chrisccoulson | for some reason, the GtkMozEmbed widget has no parent when the main epiphany window is destroyed | 15:25 |
| chrisccoulson | so that widget never gets destroyed before epiphany closes | 15:26 |
| chrisccoulson | it's weird how that works with the old xulrunner though ;) | 15:26 |
| jdstrand | huh | 15:26 |
| chrisccoulson | well, "has no parent" might not be entirely true. the container that is meant to hold the GtkMozEmbed instance has no children | 15:27 |
| chrisccoulson | i suppose that's not technically the same thing ;) | 15:27 |
| chrisccoulson | but the results are the same | 15:27 |
| chrisccoulson | right, time for a reboot | 15:29 |
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| asac_ | fta2: i whipped a bit and now the rebuild is disabled until we figure why the scheduler gives them high prio | 15:58 |
| micahg | fta: can you delete thunderbird-3.1 from the daily PPA and pause the daily build job for it? | 16:06 |
| micahg | fta: I see people are trying to get the real thing and will end up with a pre-alpha :( | 16:06 |
| fta | asac, i did earlier today too | 16:18 |
| fta | micahg, if i do that, it will erase the history | 16:22 |
| micahg | fta: ah, hmm | 16:22 |
| micahg | fta: any suggestions or is just fix it the only option? | 16:23 |
| BUGabundo_remote | t | 16:25 |
| fta | micahg, for some reason, it's not disabled in the bot, yet, there's no new snapshot since last year | 16:30 |
| micahg | fta: it's pointing to comm-central and the version is 3.2 and it's broke :) | 16:30 |
| fta | oh | 16:31 |
| fta | micahg, what's so difficult to unbreak anyway? | 16:31 |
| micahg | fta: the versioning patch needed something added IIRC, but I couldn't get it working 6 months ago, I know quite a bit more now and could probably do it as soon as I get a little time | 16:32 |
| fta | if you're busy, maybe ddecator could have a look :) it should be similar to the 3.7->4.0 (ie, re-use what i did for tb 3.0->3.1) | 16:32 |
| micahg | fta: no, it broke before the transition to 3.2 | 16:36 |
| fta | obviously, the transition must be fixed 1st | 16:44 |
| micahg | fta: I was going to rebranch after fixing the codebase for 3.1 | 16:47 |
| micahg | or branch first maybe and then merge select changes... | 16:47 |
| micahg | there's a comm-1.9.2 branch now | 16:47 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - calling gtk_widget_unrealize on a GtkMozEmbed widget causes it to be reparented to an offscreen window (GtkMozEmbed overloads the unrealize function to do this) | 16:49 |
| * micahg forgot about alpha2 when asking chrisccoulson to delay upload thunderbird to maverick :( | 16:49 | |
| chrisccoulson | i just need to understand why it doesn't do this in the old version ;) | 16:49 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah, i forgot about alpha 2 when i uploaded firefox to maverick and to the u-m-s PPA for all releases, uploaded openjdk and DoS'd the build daemons ;) | 16:50 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: that was yesterday and the freeze is today though | 16:50 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah, but i was stopping maverick things from being built to get the archive consistent ;) | 16:51 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: should we try to get thunderbird in or have an outdated version on the CD? | 16:51 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - we can wait until after a2 now, it's not too much of a problem | 16:51 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm just a bit concerned about tying the builders up (i still need to get openjdk built too) | 16:52 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k, I'll test the build then tonight in the PPA and make sure the symlinks works | 16:52 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 16:52 |
| fta | ddecator, micahg: remember that for the 3.7->4.0 migration in the daily ppa, there's an action on my side too: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~fta/+junk/ppa-confs/annotate/head:/ppabot-pkgs-umd.conf | 17:07 |
| micahg | fta: well, they made the transition in m-c, so it'll probably be tomorrow before we get ddecator's merge in for 4.0 | 17:08 |
| micahg | fta: should we rename the 3.7 branch or just push a new one? | 17:08 |
| fta | also, it would be nice for ff 4.0 to build its own xul | 17:08 |
| micahg | fta: yes, it will at some point | 17:09 |
| fta | micahg, whatever you do for the branches, i have something to change on my side. at least vpattern and the source package name | 17:11 |
| micahg | fta: k, I'm thinking to just rename, I'll ping you after I make merge the branch changes | 17:11 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: the xul192 discussion is getting more interesting in Debian :) | 17:17 |
| ddecator | micahg: i was just going to get everything setup for FF and XR, so it'll be available tonight even if it can't be merged yet | 17:30 |
| micahg | ddecator: k | 17:30 |
| jlebar | What replaced the linux-image-debug package? | 18:14 |
| jlebar | Whoops; wrong channel. | 18:14 |
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| ddecator | dang, micah left... | 18:24 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - so, the epiphany issue is looking more like a mozilla bug | 18:43 |
| jdstrand | interesting | 18:49 |
| jdstrand | fyi, I've started publication of hardy and lucid | 18:49 |
| micahg | jdstrand: thanks, I've been telling people to go to the u-m-s PPA :) | 18:50 |
| ddecator | wow, lifehacker did a test and FF 3.6.6 used the least amount of memory in the various conditions :) | 18:52 |
| ddecator | micahg: i'm guessing you'll get the emails, but i pushed the branches and requested merges. i'm guessing i'll to tweak some minor things, so just let me know what i need to change whenever you get around to it | 18:52 |
| micahg | ddecator: k, I won't be able to look till after 9 tonight most likely | 18:53 |
| ddecator | micahg: np, i wasn't even sure you'd be able to look tonight :) | 18:53 |
| micahg | jdstrand: you're not copying Seamonkey, right? | 18:54 |
| jdstrand | micahg: not until you guys tell me to, no | 18:54 |
| micahg | jdstrand: k, thanks | 18:55 |
| jdstrand | micahg: but nss is copied, so whenever you are ready, let me know | 18:55 |
| jdstrand | micahg: obviously I'm talking about hardy here | 18:55 |
| micahg | jdstrand: k, lucid too, no changelog for CVEs yet | 18:55 |
| jdstrand | micahg: right, I just meant I didn't copy nss anywhere except hardy, since I am only doing hardy and lucid and lucid didn't need it | 18:56 |
| micahg | jdstrand: ah, k, thansk | 18:56 |
| micahg | *thanks | 18:56 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: i know it wouldnt have mattered since you didnt push a fix but the daily ff3.6 has 2 AU, i was board this morning while i was here | 19:00 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: 2AU? | 19:01 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: ah, yes | 19:01 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: yep | 19:01 |
| gnomefreak | ops sorry this is languages | 19:01 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: right, so we're now using the hunspell dir in maverick instead of the myspell dir, but there are still dupes and we'll try to get them cleaned up before beta | 19:01 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: k just testing :). when is the ETA on renaming 3.7 ->4.0 IIRC B1 was released | 19:02 |
| ddecator | soon | 19:03 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: they did it last night, tonight's upload will probably fail, and hopefully have the transition done by tomorrow | 19:03 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: ok thanks. someone was asking about that this morning | 19:03 |
| * gnomefreak thinks someone said the builds will fail. ft_a i thinkl | 19:04 | |
| gnomefreak | the person assking was Dimmux_x IIRC | 19:05 |
| ddecator | gnomefreak: yah, i told Dimmux-x that it was in the works | 19:07 |
| gnomefreak | dthanks | 19:07 |
| gnomefreak | ddecator: thanks | 19:07 |
| gnomefreak | not sure what i typed the first time but its highlited | 19:07 |
| gnomefreak | xul193 sucks badly | 19:09 |
| ddecator | how so? | 19:09 |
| * micahg wants to set up a firefox beta PPA | 19:10 | |
| gnomefreak | its one of the running scripts warning | 19:10 |
| * micahg is itching to try 4.0b1 :) | 19:10 | |
| gnomefreak | works fine in 192 | 19:10 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: that makes 2 of us | 19:10 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: the warning doesn't work? | 19:10 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: it warns me that it is running. it should no keep running the script on the page | 19:11 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: if you're running last night's build, that's basically the beta | 19:11 |
| gnomefreak | that is a bug as i recall | 19:11 |
| micahg | sounds like a regression, it should pause the script if the warning is being displayed | 19:11 |
| gnomefreak | 3.7~a6~hg20100629r46385+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 | 19:11 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: i can give you the warning if i can reproduce it but i do have XPCOM warning now on screen | 19:12 |
| gnomefreak | 3.7~a6~hg20100629r46385+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 | 19:12 |
| gnomefreak | damnit | 19:12 |
| ddecator | micahg: there have been requests for it :) | 19:13 |
| gnomefreak | ok seems i cant copy and paste (should be another bug IMHP seeing as it has the "copy" choice | 19:13 |
| gnomefreak | ok that is 3 script warnings | 19:13 |
| * ddecator doesn't get the script warning... | 19:13 | |
| gnomefreak | im in gmail in one of my boxes other site i was on == no warning | 19:14 |
| ddecator | you're getting the script warnings on gmail? | 19:14 |
| gnomefreak | oh you are not going to like 3.7 languages | 19:15 |
| gnomefreak | 19:16 | |
| gnomefreak | ok that was odd :(. ok what i was trying to type was 3.7 == 2AU 2US 2UK 1CA and 1 of antoher i dont recall | 19:22 |
| gnomefreak | for some reason the batch of updates would let me type in temrinal/irssi until i rebooted | 19:23 |
| * gnomefreak should have pain attention in the bot class :( | 19:31 | |
| gnomefreak | anyone have a clue why ozilla-plugin-vlc depends on libqt3-mt is it works with Gecko browsers not a mention to qt browsers | 19:36 |
| fta | ddecator, lol | 19:37 |
| fta | -# 51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-13.7 USA. | 19:37 |
| fta | +# 51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-14.0 USA. | 19:37 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: well, vlc is a QT app I thought | 19:37 |
| fta | ddecator, the DESKTOP_BRANDED part is most probably wrong | 19:38 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: it is but not understanding why if Gecko has no qt anything | 19:38 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: opera needs it not mozilla-plugin-vlc | 19:38 |
| gnomefreak | that is a good reason. if only we supported Opera ;) | 19:39 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: there are a few things that need it still...aptitude why libqt3-mt | 19:40 |
| gnomefreak | the libqt3-mt was a file manager bca or something like that | 19:40 |
| gnomefreak | i double checked. most if not all should depends on libqt4 | 19:41 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: yes, but try the command I gave you and it'll tell you why you have it instlaled | 19:41 |
| gnomefreak | cant atm | 19:42 |
| gnomefreak | in Synaptic | 19:42 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: we need to update mozilla-packagekit it needs firefox-3.0 | 19:43 |
| gnomefreak | assuming that is ours | 19:43 |
| * micahg wonders how we missed that :( | 19:44 | |
| * micahg wonders if that's why apt doesn't work in the browser | 19:45 | |
| * gnomefreak thinks that is a good choice | 19:45 | |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: ^^ | 19:45 |
| gnomefreak | only if it was as easy as to change depends. if it is i can run that through | 19:46 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: depends on what it needs :) | 19:46 |
| gnomefreak | let me see what else it haad | 19:46 |
| chrisccoulson | what's up? | 19:46 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: seems like we forgot mozilla-packagekit | 19:46 |
| gnomefreak | |Depends: firefox-3.5 | 19:47 |
| gnomefreak | firefox | 19:47 |
| gnomefreak | |Depends: abrowser-3.5 | 19:47 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, i've not had any issues upgrading | 19:47 |
| gnomefreak | maybe its jsut me but depends shows those | 19:47 |
| gnomefreak | chrisccoulson: installing it from Synaptic says firefox-3.0 | 19:48 |
| chrisccoulson | which release are we talking about? | 19:48 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I don't have it installed, could that be why some people have issues with apt: in the browser or is that apt-url only? | 19:48 |
| gnomefreak | chrisccoulson: maverick. one sec | 19:49 |
| gnomefreak | http://paste.ubuntu.com/456989/ | 19:49 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, i thought you were talking about the security updates | 19:49 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: oops, sorry for scaring you :) | 19:49 |
| gnomefreak | that shows other browsers but synaptic says installing firefox-3.0 | 19:49 |
| chrisccoulson | that shouldn't be an issue. the pacakges it depends on are just metapackages which pull in the real firefox | 19:50 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: breaks ff30 :) | 19:50 |
| gnomefreak | i already have firefox | 19:50 |
| chrisccoulson | gnomefreak - but you wouldn't get another firefox ;) | 19:50 |
| gnomefreak | try to install it see what it says. maybe this is a mvo bug | 19:50 |
| chrisccoulson | installing mozilla-packagekit will install the firefox-3.5 metapackage, which depends on the firefox you already have installed | 19:51 |
| chrisccoulson | we should fix the depends to not pull in the metapackage anyway | 19:51 |
| chrisccoulson | but that shouldn't be causing any other issues | 19:51 |
| gnomefreak | give me a while let me get synaptic done than ill try in a terminal maybe its synaptic | 19:51 |
| gnomefreak | chrisccoulson: it says it breaks firefox-3.0 so it shouldnt even suggest it | 19:52 |
| gnomefreak | let alone depends on it | 19:52 |
| chrisccoulson | where does it suggest it? | 19:52 |
| chrisccoulson | it depends on firefox-3.5 | firefox | 19:53 |
| chrisccoulson | and it breaks firefox-3.0 | 19:53 |
| gnomefreak | chrisccoulson: it doesnt but in synaptic it wants to install it | 19:53 |
| chrisccoulson | it wants to install which package? | 19:53 |
| gnomefreak | chrisccoulson: if it breaks 3.0 than why does it want me to install 3.0 | 19:53 |
| chrisccoulson | i've no idea, that seems a bit weird ;) | 19:53 |
| gnomefreak | i will post a screenshot when i can but if you can please test in terminal | 19:54 |
| chrisccoulson | i can't really test it atm, i'm busy with other things | 19:54 |
| gnomefreak | synaptic wont stop now so it will be a while (20 or so minutes) | 19:54 |
| gnomefreak | ok be back | 19:55 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - i see you've copied the packages now | 19:59 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks :) | 19:59 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: sure! | 20:00 |
| jdstrand | still adjusting overrides and getting the langpacks to -updates and doing the actual USN publication. but the packages are in -security! :) | 20:00 |
| gnomefreak | ok apt shows it as a broken package due to ff30 | 20:01 |
| gnomefreak | http://paste.ubuntu.com/457001/ <<install output | 20:02 |
| gnomefreak | so i take it if i would have tried to install it in synaptic it would have showed same thing | 20:02 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: should I get rid of the transitional packages in maverick for Firefox? Does this also mean get rid of them in .head or should I branch maverick? | 20:03 |
| Dimmuxx | micahg: beta ppa with 4.0b1 is a very nice idea ;) | 20:03 |
| gnomefreak | firefox-3.0 should be removed from the package entirely | 20:03 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: it's a transitional package in lucid/maverick | 20:03 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - i'm not too sure yet. won't they disappear from all the dailies as well then? | 20:03 |
| chrisccoulson | we shouldn't branch maverick just yet, that will create a lot of work for us ;) | 20:04 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: than what do you do with it if not remove it from depends | 20:04 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: yeah, so, just leave in maverick and get rid of them before the final upload? | 20:04 |
| gnomefreak | firefox == transitional package | 20:04 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: no | 20:04 |
| chrisccoulson | i'd like to clean all the cruft from the packages, but i just haven't decided the best way to go about doing that yet | 20:04 |
| micahg | *final upload before release | 20:04 |
| chrisccoulson | i need to have a think about that once the dust has settled with 3.6.6 ;) | 20:04 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k, cleaning up was one of my tasks that wasn't given a milestone due to lack of time | 20:05 |
| gnomefreak | 3.5 == transtional to firefox | 20:05 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: yes :) | 20:05 |
| gnomefreak | and 2.0 and 3.0 | 20:05 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: yes :) | 20:06 |
| gnomefreak | do we really need all of those since we dont have 2.0 is any ubuntu supported | 20:06 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: hardy :) | 20:06 |
| gnomefreak | !info firefox hardy | 20:06 |
| ubot2 | gnomefreak: firefox (source: firefox-3.0): meta package for the popular mozilla web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.19+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 (hardy), package size 65 kB, installed size 120 kB | 20:06 |
| micahg | !info firefox-2 hardy | 20:06 |
| ubot2 | micahg: firefox-2 (source: firefox): lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0.21~tb.21.308+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 (hardy), package size 8990 kB, installed size 26100 kB | 20:06 |
| gnomefreak | default is 3.0 | 20:06 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: yes, and? | 20:07 |
| gnomefreak | 2.0 is still needed? | 20:07 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: transitional | 20:07 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: needed where? | 20:07 |
| gnomefreak | are we every going to be able to clean it up a little since we are pushing 3.6 to all | 20:07 |
| gnomefreak | should not need 3+ transitonal packages per release | 20:08 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: well, the stable packaging won't change, but maverick will | 20:08 |
| gnomefreak | that is a lot of cruft | 20:08 |
| gnomefreak | 2.0.0.21~tb.21.308+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 << "tb"? | 20:09 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: not getting updates unless someone is feal really ambitious in their backporting :) | 20:09 |
| gnomefreak | we dont need to backport the packages they should go to secuity i thought we decided | 20:10 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: probably means took the patches from TB as they were the same gecko revision | 20:10 |
| gnomefreak | good point | 20:10 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: I meant patches | 20:10 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: Firefox 2 is probably vulnerable to >100 CVEs | 20:11 |
| gnomefreak | yeah good point | 20:11 |
| * micahg is reminded of the need to backport fixes for TB in hardy, jaunty, and karmic... | 20:11 | |
| gnomefreak | hardy EOL 11.04 GUI) | 20:11 |
| micahg | right | 20:12 |
| gnomefreak | so does jaunty? | 20:12 |
| gnomefreak | drop 2 releases in one month | 20:12 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: karmic | 20:13 |
| gnomefreak | karmic ==9.10 | 20:13 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: yes | 20:13 |
| gnomefreak | so when is jaunty EOL | 20:14 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: end of october | 20:14 |
| gnomefreak | ok than karmic+hardy EOL in 11.04 | 20:14 |
| gnomefreak | for our packages | 20:14 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: yes, then we can really start cleaning up :) | 20:14 |
| gnomefreak | ok that is a good idea to look forward to in 11.04 | 20:15 |
| chrisccoulson | we'll have 2 more releases to support by then ;) | 20:15 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: yes, but we can transition all the new stuff to dh7 and all the lucid tools :) | 20:16 |
| chrisccoulson | that will be fun ;) | 20:16 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: just a crazy thought, did anyone test the backports with apport? | 20:16 |
| gnomefreak | yay i get another troll to my list this week | 20:17 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - i didn't, although it should carry on working as usual. i didn't change the apport hooks, and they are still named the same as the source package | 20:18 |
| chrisccoulson | so they should just carry on working as normal | 20:18 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: oh, ok | 20:18 |
| gnomefreak | will unity run on anything or is it just UNE | 20:27 |
| chrisccoulson | gnomefreak, it should run on anything with the graphics drivers to support it | 20:33 |
| chrisccoulson | if you install it, then you have the option of logging in with a unity session from gdm | 20:33 |
| gnomefreak | chrisccoulson: it looks like it will but i havent installed it yet, cleaning up other packages atm | 20:33 |
| gnomefreak | it seems to have very high mem usage from what i am hearing | 20:34 |
| gnomefreak | ok be back going to install | 20:34 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: I wonder if the fix for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=532246 (MFSA 2010-28) has anything to do with the epiphany issue... | 20:56 |
| ubot2 | jdstrand: Error: Error getting Mozilla bug #532246: NotPermitted | 20:56 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - i can't see that ;) | 20:56 |
| jdstrand | well, me either, but maybe [reed] could help with that | 20:57 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: I'm writing USN text. this is the mfsa: http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2010/mfsa2010-28.html | 20:57 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - i'm not sure if it's related. the bug i'm looking at doesn't look like it's plugin related (that's just an effect of the bug) | 20:59 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: k. fyi only... | 20:59 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 21:01 |
| gnomefreak | yay chromium update :) | 21:11 |
| * gnomefreak needs to figure out what i have to do to get media keys to work | 21:12 | |
| gnomefreak | nevermind email works | 21:12 |
| [reed] | jdstrand: yo, what's up? | 21:30 |
| jdstrand | [reed]: hi! I thought a CVE fix might have caused a regression we are seeing, but we couldn't see the bug. chrisccoulson said he didn't think that was the case, so you can ignore me :) | 21:32 |
| gnomefreak | now only if limewire did movies | 21:36 |
| gnomefreak | i guess songbird is still having issues? | 21:46 |
| [reed] | jdstrand: ok | 21:46 |
| [reed] | jdstrand: let me know if you need access to the bug | 21:46 |
| jdstrand | [reed]: thanks :) | 21:48 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - re bug 557275 - we don't really want to do that | 22:03 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 557275 in xulrunner-1.9.2 (Ubuntu) "xulrunner + dynamic linker run-time bindings (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/557275 | 22:03 |
| chrisccoulson | i commented on another bug yesterday which had a similar suggestion | 22:03 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I saw your response to the other bug :), I was going to mark won't fix with your comment | 22:03 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks, i can do that now | 22:03 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k | 22:04 |
| === BUGabundo is now known as BUGabundo_DrWho | ||
| === micahg changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team: | ML: http://is.gd/83fnr | Firefox 3.6.6 Now in Hardy/Lucid/Maverick | Help test the Firefox 3.6 and xulrunner 1.9.2 migrations in Jaunty and Karmic -- Caution is advised -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Firefox3.6.4Upgrade/ | Next Meeting: TBD | ||
| fta | http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/06/ffmpeg-getting-its-own-implementation-of-googles-vp8-codec.ars | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | fta worse ! oracle bought apache?? | 23:04 |
| micahg | fta: saw that :) | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | is that a good thing? | 23:05 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_software_foundation_receives | 23:06 |
| micahg | BUGabundo_DrWho: yes :) | 23:06 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: fyi, bug #599928 came in. I cannot reproduce and this is something I explicitly test for | 23:12 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 599928 in firefox (Ubuntu) "cannot create a new folder/ link/ separator on the quick link bar (above the tabs and below the address line) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/599928 | 23:12 |
| micahg | BUGabundo_DrWho: apparently Dr Who sent you into a time warp :) | 23:14 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | yep | 23:14 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | I've been rickroled | 23:14 |
| micahg | jdstrand: use needs to restart firefox after the update | 23:14 |
| micahg | *user | 23:14 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, yeah, i was thinking what micahg just said | 23:14 |
| * micahg was going to comment later | 23:15 | |
| jdstrand | that's what I was thinking too | 23:15 |
| chrisccoulson | those empty dialog boxes are tell-tale signs of the user having not restarted | 23:15 |
| jdstrand | alright, I'm heading out for a while now for real | 23:15 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: and extensions patch of /u/l/firefox-3.6.3 is a good hint too :) | 23:15 |
| micahg | *path | 23:15 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - ah, i didn't spot that | 23:16 |
| ddecator | fta: i know it is, but they don't have a codename for FF 4.0 yet so i wasn't sure what to put. that can be changed quickly though, i just put something so i could make sure it would build. | 23:33 |
| ddecator | fta: oh, that part...i never even noticed that changed :p | 23:36 |
| ddecator | fixed that little issue, didn't see any others.. | 23:45 |
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