[01:22] Laaa la laa please build TB3.1 laaaa la alala alaalaal laaa [01:22] laaa [03:01] So... Anyone know a date for 4.0 Beta 1? === aganice_ is now known as aganice [04:24] Lantizia: we're backed up because the team is basically 2-3 people and the backporting of firefox is a lot of work. once that's done, tb 3.1 is high on the list [04:25] ddecator: FF3.7 rename just got bumped :) [04:25] micahg: finally :D [04:25] ddecator: you want to try to do it? [04:25] micahg: what all does it entail? [04:26] ddecator: basically, any of the packaging that says 3.7 becomes 4.0 for Firefox and Xulrunner 1.9.3 becomes 2.0.0 [04:26] or just 2.0 [04:26] no, 2.0.0 [04:26] no, 2.0 :) [04:26] :p [04:26] micahg: yah, i can give that a shot [04:27] ddecator: document in the changelog what you change [04:27] micahg: should i just do an entry for "bump up to 4.0" then list the files changed under it? [04:28] ddecator: no, just change the source package name to firefox-4.0 and cahnge the version [04:30] micahg: in the main line you mean? right, i mean should i have a "* Version bump to 4.0" or something like that then list what files i updated under it? "- update debian/rules" etc. [04:31] ddecator: in the commit comment you can say that, but in the changelog, it doesn't need it [04:32] ddecator: take a look at how fta did the changelog for the 3.7 bump [04:32] micahg: good point :) [04:32] micahg: i'll start working on that [04:33] ddecator: great, thanks, it'll probably break tonight [04:33] micahg: right. so the package name will stay -3.7 or does that need to change too? [04:34] ddecator: no, change it to 4.0 and add a Replaces: firefox-3.7 in each of the binary packages in control [04:35] ddecator: Replaces: firefox-3.7* <--- whatever the binary is -dbg, -gnome-support [04:35] micahg: ok, i think i get it. i'll do that first so i can have you check it for me [04:35] ddecator: nah, that's easy, just add a commit at the end for it [04:36] micahg: k [04:40] ah, good, all of the changes from 3.6 -> 3.7 are right on loggerhead so i have a good reference :) [04:43] micahg: what should i do with the abrowser listings in /control? do those get bumped up to 4.0 too? [04:43] ddecator: yep, same thing [04:44] micahg: k [04:54] ddecator: tomorrow night will break :) [04:54] micahg: ? [04:54] ddecator: tonight's upload was fine [04:54] micahg: ah, gotcha :) [04:56] micahg: btw, should i take care of xr1.9.3 -> xr2.0 or are you going to do that? [04:56] ddecator: please take care of it if you can, I have a lot going on [04:56] micahg: sure thing :) [04:56] that's why i asked [04:57] ddecator: thanks [05:11] micahg: ok, firefox-3.7-shiretoko.desktop, do we have a 4.0 name that i can change that to? [05:12] ddecator: I don't know if there is one yet [05:13] micahg: what should i do with that file? [05:13] ddecator: you can change to 4.0, but there's no codename yet AFAIK [05:14] micahg: k, thanks [05:33] micahg: ok, and what is the xulrunner branch? there is no lp:xulrunner...so do i have to pull xulrunner-1.9.3 and work with that? [05:33] ddecator: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/xulrunner/xulrunner-1.9.3.head [05:33] micahg: thanks [05:33] ddecator: I have to get asac to change the owner to Mozilla Team :) [06:20] xr2.0 is already b2? huh.. [06:23] ddecator: b1 was tagged tonight [06:23] micahg: ah :) [06:35] woot, looks like the patches still apply [06:36] ddecator: same branch :) [06:36] micahg: yah, just wasn't sure. when sb jumped up to 2.0 they made a bunch of other changes at the same time, wasn't sure if i'd have a repeat of that :p [06:38] micahg: ...i just realized something. should xr2.0 replace xr1.9.3? idk if anything else uses 1.9.3 [06:38] ddecator: yes [06:38] micahg: ok, good, that's how i set it up :p [08:51] oh, FF 4 has taller tabs... [08:53] ah, there we go.. [08:53] disabled all of my add-ons :( [08:58] morning [09:04] morning BUGabundo_remote [09:24] i really hope "Mozilla Developer Preview" doesn't stick as the name for the FF 4 beta.. [10:46] chrisccoulson: boing [10:46] chrisccoulson: sorry for the pain england had to endure :-P [10:46] hi asac ;) [10:46] chrisccoulson: on maverick ffox 3.6 daily or something is really hanging a lot [10:46] we deserved it really, england were pretty terrible [10:46] chrisccoulson: maybe a bad sqlite version? [10:47] chrisccoulson: yeah. well. it was a big mistake that we even got in the situation where someone could claim that 2:2 would have made a difference (could be!) [10:47] asac - thanks. i'll take a look when i get the chance. i don't notice these things as i'm not running maverick yet ;) [10:47] e.g. at that time england was really good [10:47] chrisccoulson: yeah. just wanted to let you know. its really terrible ;) [10:48] every few operations it hangs hard ... ghosting etc. [10:48] asac - and thats just affecting the dailies? (ie, not the in-archive version) [10:48] then continuing. not only while loading, but also while typing in gmail etc. [10:48] chrisccoulson: i assume its also a problem in the archive version. let me see [10:48] ok, thanks [10:48] i need to hurry up and finish this backporting work, so i can upgrade to maverick ;) [10:48] i can't really afford any down-time atm though [10:49] ack [10:49] its not a big problem (if you dont see it in lucid ;)) [10:50] i'm stil trying to figure out why epiphany doesn't shut down properly any more in hardy :-/ [10:52] wow, we have some rain! [10:58] chrisccoulson: i think epiphany had crash bugs on window close in hardy anyway before ;) [10:58] but usually it means that some thread is kept alive etc. [10:58] or even the mainloop ;) [10:58] i know that is not really helpful ... but still :-P [11:02] shame on me ... i didnt even have the security ppa enabled ;) [11:03] chrisccoulson: oh ... if upstream is out you can always push to maverick to get more exposoure [11:03] even if staging takes a bit longer ... at least thats what i usually did ;) [11:03] asac - yeah, i uploaded 3.6.6 to maverick yesterday [11:05] ok. so my apt cache was too old ;) [11:05] oh there is no maverick in security ppa? [11:06] ok got 3.6.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 [12:02] will firefox 4.0b1 build1 be built in any of the ppas? [12:03] it will be but right now we havent changed the versioning of 3.7. 3.7==4.0 [12:04] right now 3.6 is #1 on the list of things to do [12:04] Dimmuxx: you are best off posting to our mailing list [12:04] or wait for Micah [12:05] okay will do [12:53] finally got around to fixing my jabber account [12:59] amd64 13 9455 jobs (four days) [12:59] i386 14 17437 jobs (five days) [12:59] *sigh* another full test rebuild :( [13:01] those are usually having really low prio [13:02] asac, my ch builds are scheduled to start in 19h [13:03] so bye-bye the dailies [13:03] fta: wait a bit. the scheduler is a bit confused most likely [13:03] just see what happens ;) [13:04] i assume normal uploads will go first ... maybe they said 3 bulders or so get the rebuild now or something [13:04] if they did anything at all to speed those builds up [13:10] my build is also waiting :( [13:10] and it was an important one ;) [13:16] tb has a mind of its own. the editor loaded without an address field so i know i didnt click anything for it and tb is not loaded just that one window [14:15] chrisccoulson: I plan to release lucid and hardy within a couple/few hours (more testing). is that still ok? what is going on with epiphany? [14:18] Dimmuxx: i made the changes from 3.7 -> 4.0 last night, i just need to get everything setup the right way so it can be merged into the daily PPA. with any luck, it'll be merged tonight [14:19] jdstrand - that should be ok. i don't think that i'll have epiphany fixed though [14:19] i'm still trying to understand what is happening during shutdown [14:19] chrisccoulson: that's fine. I will file a bug and release note that it is being orked on [14:19] ddecator: nice, but will there be beta ppa with 4.0 betas since I rather stay on betas than using daylies [14:20] jdstrand - thanks [14:20] i'm not being helped by my laptop this week. it slows to a crawl every time i try to do something in kvm [14:20] :( [14:21] chrisccoulson: is this totem specific or all plugins? [14:21] (I think the latter) [14:21] Dimmuxx: afaik, the milestone PPAs haven't been setup yet, so there are just stable and daily PPAs. i know the plan was to setup one at some point though [14:22] what about security? 3.6.4 rc builds were there after all [14:23] jdstrand - it affects all plugins, but will only be noticeable with plugins that spawn an external helper [14:24] k [14:24] Dimmuxx: what do you mean? why don't we do it as a security update? [14:26] bah, i give up with my laptop now ;) [14:27] ddecator: nah I really don't know what I meant. ;) But since you put rc builds of 3.6.4 there which were just sent out to beta users(win/osx) I thought that perhaps 4.0 betas could be there too. But the best solution would be a beta ppa like with chromium [14:27] chrisccoulson: fyi, filed as bug #599796 [14:27] Launchpad bug 599796 in epiphany-browser (Ubuntu Jaunty) (and 3 other projects) "plugins are not killed on browser close after viewing embedded media (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/599796 [14:27] jdstrand, thanks [14:29] Dimmuxx: right, that's what the plan is. we'll eventually make a PPA that is either updated with every beta release, or is updated starting with each alpha release (not sure of the exact plan, micah knows about it) [14:30] ddecator: nice, I assume you don't know any eta on it? :) [14:32] Dimmuxx: well, backporting firefox 3.6 isn't done, after that thunderbird 3.1 is high on the list...i'm not sure how long it would take to setup, but it won't be for a while yet [14:32] maybe in time for final 4.0b1 then [14:33] doubt it, the daily is up to b2 already, so if b1 hasn't been released yet it will be soon :) [14:34] 3.6.4 was in rc mode for a month at least so you never know with mozilla [14:35] I think the current eta is at least 1 week away. [14:35] Dimmuxx: I will be publishing 3.6.6 for hardy and lucid today [14:36] jaunty and karmic are at least 1 week away (due to openjdk) [14:36] jdstrand: oh nice, i had someone ask me about that last night [14:37] jdstrand: aha so maybe two weeks then? ;) [14:38] jdstrand - i still need to get the xulrunner apps in karmic ported to 1.9.2 too, but that should fit nicely alongside the openjdk work [14:41] ddecator, Dimmuxx: it is a complicated update, to say the least. the publication status (ie what is blocking USN publication) is being tracked in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Firefox3.6.4Upgrade/SecurityPublication [14:41] chrisccoulson: yeah [14:41] jdstrand: yah, i know at least the dependecies have been giving you all trouble. thanks :) [14:45] jdstrand: heh that doesn't look fun [14:47] yeah, and that only covers the stuff I've been focusing on. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Firefox3.6.4Upgrade and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Lucid/FirefoxNewSupportModel/xulrunner-list for what the mozilla team has been working on [14:50] hey folks :) does anyone know if thunderbird 3.1 will make it's way into the thunderbird stable ppa? [15:13] jdstrand - do you think i should upload openjdk again? [15:14] chrisccoulson: sure, one of them should be fine, now that all the firefox's are done (excepting ia64) [15:14] s/'// [15:25] jdstrand - i think i'm getting somewhere with epiphany now [15:25] for some reason, the GtkMozEmbed widget has no parent when the main epiphany window is destroyed [15:26] so that widget never gets destroyed before epiphany closes [15:26] it's weird how that works with the old xulrunner though ;) [15:26] huh [15:27] well, "has no parent" might not be entirely true. the container that is meant to hold the GtkMozEmbed instance has no children [15:27] i suppose that's not technically the same thing ;) [15:27] but the results are the same [15:29] right, time for a reboot === cyphermox_ is now known as cyphermox [15:58] fta2: i whipped a bit and now the rebuild is disabled until we figure why the scheduler gives them high prio [16:06] fta: can you delete thunderbird-3.1 from the daily PPA and pause the daily build job for it? [16:06] fta: I see people are trying to get the real thing and will end up with a pre-alpha :( [16:18] asac, i did earlier today too [16:22] micahg, if i do that, it will erase the history [16:22] fta: ah, hmm [16:23] fta: any suggestions or is just fix it the only option? [16:25] t [16:30] micahg, for some reason, it's not disabled in the bot, yet, there's no new snapshot since last year [16:30] fta: it's pointing to comm-central and the version is 3.2 and it's broke :) [16:31] oh [16:31] micahg, what's so difficult to unbreak anyway? [16:32] fta: the versioning patch needed something added IIRC, but I couldn't get it working 6 months ago, I know quite a bit more now and could probably do it as soon as I get a little time [16:32] if you're busy, maybe ddecator could have a look :) it should be similar to the 3.7->4.0 (ie, re-use what i did for tb 3.0->3.1) [16:36] fta: no, it broke before the transition to 3.2 [16:44] obviously, the transition must be fixed 1st [16:47] fta: I was going to rebranch after fixing the codebase for 3.1 [16:47] or branch first maybe and then merge select changes... [16:47] there's a comm-1.9.2 branch now [16:49] jdstrand - calling gtk_widget_unrealize on a GtkMozEmbed widget causes it to be reparented to an offscreen window (GtkMozEmbed overloads the unrealize function to do this) [16:49] * micahg forgot about alpha2 when asking chrisccoulson to delay upload thunderbird to maverick :( [16:49] i just need to understand why it doesn't do this in the old version ;) [16:50] micahg - yeah, i forgot about alpha 2 when i uploaded firefox to maverick and to the u-m-s PPA for all releases, uploaded openjdk and DoS'd the build daemons ;) [16:50] chrisccoulson: that was yesterday and the freeze is today though [16:51] micahg - yeah, but i was stopping maverick things from being built to get the archive consistent ;) [16:51] chrisccoulson: should we try to get thunderbird in or have an outdated version on the CD? [16:51] micahg - we can wait until after a2 now, it's not too much of a problem [16:52] i'm just a bit concerned about tying the builders up (i still need to get openjdk built too) [16:52] chrisccoulson: k, I'll test the build then tonight in the PPA and make sure the symlinks works [16:52] thanks [17:07] ddecator, micahg: remember that for the 3.7->4.0 migration in the daily ppa, there's an action on my side too: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~fta/+junk/ppa-confs/annotate/head:/ppabot-pkgs-umd.conf [17:08] fta: well, they made the transition in m-c, so it'll probably be tomorrow before we get ddecator's merge in for 4.0 [17:08] fta: should we rename the 3.7 branch or just push a new one? [17:08] also, it would be nice for ff 4.0 to build its own xul [17:09] fta: yes, it will at some point [17:11] micahg, whatever you do for the branches, i have something to change on my side. at least vpattern and the source package name [17:11] fta: k, I'm thinking to just rename, I'll ping you after I make merge the branch changes [17:17] chrisccoulson: the xul192 discussion is getting more interesting in Debian :) [17:30] micahg: i was just going to get everything setup for FF and XR, so it'll be available tonight even if it can't be merged yet [17:30] ddecator: k [18:14] What replaced the linux-image-debug package? [18:14] Whoops; wrong channel. === asac__ is now known as asac [18:24] dang, micah left... [18:43] jdstrand - so, the epiphany issue is looking more like a mozilla bug [18:49] interesting [18:49] fyi, I've started publication of hardy and lucid [18:50] jdstrand: thanks, I've been telling people to go to the u-m-s PPA :) [18:52] wow, lifehacker did a test and FF 3.6.6 used the least amount of memory in the various conditions :) [18:52] micahg: i'm guessing you'll get the emails, but i pushed the branches and requested merges. i'm guessing i'll to tweak some minor things, so just let me know what i need to change whenever you get around to it [18:53] ddecator: k, I won't be able to look till after 9 tonight most likely [18:53] micahg: np, i wasn't even sure you'd be able to look tonight :) [18:54] jdstrand: you're not copying Seamonkey, right? [18:54] micahg: not until you guys tell me to, no [18:55] jdstrand: k, thanks [18:55] micahg: but nss is copied, so whenever you are ready, let me know [18:55] micahg: obviously I'm talking about hardy here [18:55] jdstrand: k, lucid too, no changelog for CVEs yet [18:56] micahg: right, I just meant I didn't copy nss anywhere except hardy, since I am only doing hardy and lucid and lucid didn't need it [18:56] jdstrand: ah, k, thansk [18:56] *thanks [19:00] micahg: i know it wouldnt have mattered since you didnt push a fix but the daily ff3.6 has 2 AU, i was board this morning while i was here [19:01] gnomefreak: 2AU? [19:01] gnomefreak: ah, yes [19:01] micahg: yep [19:01] ops sorry this is languages [19:01] gnomefreak: right, so we're now using the hunspell dir in maverick instead of the myspell dir, but there are still dupes and we'll try to get them cleaned up before beta [19:02] micahg: k just testing :). when is the ETA on renaming 3.7 ->4.0 IIRC B1 was released [19:03] soon [19:03] gnomefreak: they did it last night, tonight's upload will probably fail, and hopefully have the transition done by tomorrow [19:03] micahg: ok thanks. someone was asking about that this morning [19:04] * gnomefreak thinks someone said the builds will fail. ft_a i thinkl [19:05] the person assking was Dimmux_x IIRC [19:07] gnomefreak: yah, i told Dimmux-x that it was in the works [19:07] d thanks [19:07] ddecator: thanks [19:07] not sure what i typed the first time but its highlited [19:09] xul193 sucks badly [19:09] how so? [19:10] * micahg wants to set up a firefox beta PPA [19:10] its one of the running scripts warning [19:10] * micahg is itching to try 4.0b1 :) [19:10] works fine in 192 [19:10] micahg: that makes 2 of us [19:10] gnomefreak: the warning doesn't work? [19:11] micahg: it warns me that it is running. it should no keep running the script on the page [19:11] gnomefreak: if you're running last night's build, that's basically the beta [19:11] that is a bug as i recall [19:11] sounds like a regression, it should pause the script if the warning is being displayed [19:11] 3.7~a6~hg20100629r46385+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 [19:12] micahg: i can give you the warning if i can reproduce it but i do have XPCOM warning now on screen [19:12] 3.7~a6~hg20100629r46385+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 [19:12] damnit [19:13] micahg: there have been requests for it :) [19:13] ok seems i cant copy and paste (should be another bug IMHP seeing as it has the "copy" choice [19:13] ok that is 3 script warnings [19:13] * ddecator doesn't get the script warning... [19:14] im in gmail in one of my boxes other site i was on == no warning [19:14] you're getting the script warnings on gmail? [19:15] oh you are not going to like 3.7 languages [19:16] [19:22] ok that was odd :(. ok what i was trying to type was 3.7 == 2AU 2US 2UK 1CA and 1 of antoher i dont recall [19:23] for some reason the batch of updates would let me type in temrinal/irssi until i rebooted [19:31] * gnomefreak should have pain attention in the bot class :( [19:36] anyone have a clue why ozilla-plugin-vlc depends on libqt3-mt is it works with Gecko browsers not a mention to qt browsers [19:37] ddecator, lol [19:37] -# 51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-13.7 USA. [19:37] +# 51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-14.0 USA. [19:37] gnomefreak: well, vlc is a QT app I thought [19:38] ddecator, the DESKTOP_BRANDED part is most probably wrong [19:38] micahg: it is but not understanding why if Gecko has no qt anything [19:38] gnomefreak: opera needs it not mozilla-plugin-vlc [19:39] that is a good reason. if only we supported Opera ;) [19:40] gnomefreak: there are a few things that need it still...aptitude why libqt3-mt [19:40] the libqt3-mt was a file manager bca or something like that [19:41] i double checked. most if not all should depends on libqt4 [19:41] gnomefreak: yes, but try the command I gave you and it'll tell you why you have it instlaled [19:42] cant atm [19:42] in Synaptic [19:43] micahg: we need to update mozilla-packagekit it needs firefox-3.0 [19:43] assuming that is ours [19:44] * micahg wonders how we missed that :( [19:45] * micahg wonders if that's why apt doesn't work in the browser [19:45] * gnomefreak thinks that is a good choice [19:45] chrisccoulson: ^^ [19:46] only if it was as easy as to change depends. if it is i can run that through [19:46] gnomefreak: depends on what it needs :) [19:46] let me see what else it haad [19:46] what's up? [19:46] chrisccoulson: seems like we forgot mozilla-packagekit [19:47] |Depends: firefox-3.5 [19:47] firefox [19:47] |Depends: abrowser-3.5 [19:47] hmmm, i've not had any issues upgrading [19:47] maybe its jsut me but depends shows those [19:48] chrisccoulson: installing it from Synaptic says firefox-3.0 [19:48] which release are we talking about? [19:48] chrisccoulson: I don't have it installed, could that be why some people have issues with apt: in the browser or is that apt-url only? [19:49] chrisccoulson: maverick. one sec [19:49] http://paste.ubuntu.com/456989/ [19:49] oh, i thought you were talking about the security updates [19:49] chrisccoulson: oops, sorry for scaring you :) [19:49] that shows other browsers but synaptic says installing firefox-3.0 [19:50] that shouldn't be an issue. the pacakges it depends on are just metapackages which pull in the real firefox [19:50] gnomefreak: breaks ff30 :) [19:50] i already have firefox [19:50] gnomefreak - but you wouldn't get another firefox ;) [19:50] try to install it see what it says. maybe this is a mvo bug [19:51] installing mozilla-packagekit will install the firefox-3.5 metapackage, which depends on the firefox you already have installed [19:51] we should fix the depends to not pull in the metapackage anyway [19:51] but that shouldn't be causing any other issues [19:51] give me a while let me get synaptic done than ill try in a terminal maybe its synaptic [19:52] chrisccoulson: it says it breaks firefox-3.0 so it shouldnt even suggest it [19:52] let alone depends on it [19:52] where does it suggest it? [19:53] it depends on firefox-3.5 | firefox [19:53] and it breaks firefox-3.0 [19:53] chrisccoulson: it doesnt but in synaptic it wants to install it [19:53] it wants to install which package? [19:53] chrisccoulson: if it breaks 3.0 than why does it want me to install 3.0 [19:53] i've no idea, that seems a bit weird ;) [19:54] i will post a screenshot when i can but if you can please test in terminal [19:54] i can't really test it atm, i'm busy with other things [19:54] synaptic wont stop now so it will be a while (20 or so minutes) [19:55] ok be back [19:59] jdstrand - i see you've copied the packages now [19:59] thanks :) [20:00] chrisccoulson: sure! [20:00] still adjusting overrides and getting the langpacks to -updates and doing the actual USN publication. but the packages are in -security! :) [20:01] ok apt shows it as a broken package due to ff30 [20:02] http://paste.ubuntu.com/457001/ < so i take it if i would have tried to install it in synaptic it would have showed same thing [20:03] chrisccoulson: should I get rid of the transitional packages in maverick for Firefox? Does this also mean get rid of them in .head or should I branch maverick? [20:03] micahg: beta ppa with 4.0b1 is a very nice idea ;) [20:03] firefox-3.0 should be removed from the package entirely [20:03] gnomefreak: it's a transitional package in lucid/maverick [20:03] micahg - i'm not too sure yet. won't they disappear from all the dailies as well then? [20:04] we shouldn't branch maverick just yet, that will create a lot of work for us ;) [20:04] micahg: than what do you do with it if not remove it from depends [20:04] chrisccoulson: yeah, so, just leave in maverick and get rid of them before the final upload? [20:04] firefox == transitional package [20:04] gnomefreak: no [20:04] i'd like to clean all the cruft from the packages, but i just haven't decided the best way to go about doing that yet [20:04] *final upload before release [20:04] i need to have a think about that once the dust has settled with 3.6.6 ;) [20:05] chrisccoulson: k, cleaning up was one of my tasks that wasn't given a milestone due to lack of time [20:05] 3.5 == transtional to firefox [20:05] gnomefreak: yes :) [20:05] and 2.0 and 3.0 [20:06] gnomefreak: yes :) [20:06] do we really need all of those since we dont have 2.0 is any ubuntu supported [20:06] gnomefreak: hardy :) [20:06] !info firefox hardy [20:06] gnomefreak: firefox (source: firefox-3.0): meta package for the popular mozilla web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.19+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 (hardy), package size 65 kB, installed size 120 kB [20:06] !info firefox-2 hardy [20:06] micahg: firefox-2 (source: firefox): lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0.21~tb.21.308+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 (hardy), package size 8990 kB, installed size 26100 kB [20:06] default is 3.0 [20:07] gnomefreak: yes, and? [20:07] 2.0 is still needed? [20:07] gnomefreak: transitional [20:07] gnomefreak: needed where? [20:07] are we every going to be able to clean it up a little since we are pushing 3.6 to all [20:08] should not need 3+ transitonal packages per release [20:08] gnomefreak: well, the stable packaging won't change, but maverick will [20:08] that is a lot of cruft [20:09] 2.0.0.21~tb.21.308+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 << "tb"? [20:09] gnomefreak: not getting updates unless someone is feal really ambitious in their backporting :) [20:10] we dont need to backport the packages they should go to secuity i thought we decided [20:10] gnomefreak: probably means took the patches from TB as they were the same gecko revision [20:10] good point [20:10] gnomefreak: I meant patches [20:11] gnomefreak: Firefox 2 is probably vulnerable to >100 CVEs [20:11] yeah good point [20:11] * micahg is reminded of the need to backport fixes for TB in hardy, jaunty, and karmic... [20:11] hardy EOL 11.04 GUI) [20:12] right [20:12] so does jaunty? [20:12] drop 2 releases in one month [20:13] gnomefreak: karmic [20:13] karmic ==9.10 [20:13] gnomefreak: yes [20:14] so when is jaunty EOL [20:14] gnomefreak: end of october [20:14] ok than karmic+hardy EOL in 11.04 [20:14] for our packages [20:14] gnomefreak: yes, then we can really start cleaning up :) [20:15] ok that is a good idea to look forward to in 11.04 [20:15] we'll have 2 more releases to support by then ;) [20:16] chrisccoulson: yes, but we can transition all the new stuff to dh7 and all the lucid tools :) [20:16] that will be fun ;) [20:16] chrisccoulson: just a crazy thought, did anyone test the backports with apport? [20:17] yay i get another troll to my list this week [20:18] micahg - i didn't, although it should carry on working as usual. i didn't change the apport hooks, and they are still named the same as the source package [20:18] so they should just carry on working as normal [20:18] chrisccoulson: oh, ok [20:27] will unity run on anything or is it just UNE [20:33] gnomefreak, it should run on anything with the graphics drivers to support it [20:33] if you install it, then you have the option of logging in with a unity session from gdm [20:33] chrisccoulson: it looks like it will but i havent installed it yet, cleaning up other packages atm [20:34] it seems to have very high mem usage from what i am hearing [20:34] ok be back going to install [20:56] chrisccoulson: I wonder if the fix for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=532246 (MFSA 2010-28) has anything to do with the epiphany issue... [20:56] jdstrand: Error: Error getting Mozilla bug #532246: NotPermitted [20:56] jdstrand - i can't see that ;) [20:57] well, me either, but maybe [reed] could help with that [20:57] chrisccoulson: I'm writing USN text. this is the mfsa: http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2010/mfsa2010-28.html [20:59] jdstrand - i'm not sure if it's related. the bug i'm looking at doesn't look like it's plugin related (that's just an effect of the bug) [20:59] chrisccoulson: k. fyi only... [21:01] thanks [21:11] yay chromium update :) [21:12] * gnomefreak needs to figure out what i have to do to get media keys to work [21:12] nevermind email works [21:30] <[reed]> jdstrand: yo, what's up? [21:32] [reed]: hi! I thought a CVE fix might have caused a regression we are seeing, but we couldn't see the bug. chrisccoulson said he didn't think that was the case, so you can ignore me :) [21:36] now only if limewire did movies [21:46] i guess songbird is still having issues? [21:46] <[reed]> jdstrand: ok [21:46] <[reed]> jdstrand: let me know if you need access to the bug [21:48] [reed]: thanks :) [22:03] micahg - re bug 557275 - we don't really want to do that [22:03] Launchpad bug 557275 in xulrunner-1.9.2 (Ubuntu) "xulrunner + dynamic linker run-time bindings (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/557275 [22:03] i commented on another bug yesterday which had a similar suggestion [22:03] chrisccoulson: I saw your response to the other bug :), I was going to mark won't fix with your comment [22:03] thanks, i can do that now [22:04] chrisccoulson: k === BUGabundo is now known as BUGabundo_DrWho === micahg changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team: | ML: http://is.gd/83fnr | Firefox 3.6.6 Now in Hardy/Lucid/Maverick | Help test the Firefox 3.6 and xulrunner 1.9.2 migrations in Jaunty and Karmic -- Caution is advised -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Firefox3.6.4Upgrade/ | Next Meeting: TBD [23:04] http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/06/ffmpeg-getting-its-own-implementation-of-googles-vp8-codec.ars [23:04] fta worse ! oracle bought apache?? [23:04] fta: saw that :) [23:05] is that a good thing? [23:06] https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_software_foundation_receives [23:06] BUGabundo_DrWho: yes :) [23:12] chrisccoulson: fyi, bug #599928 came in. I cannot reproduce and this is something I explicitly test for [23:12] Launchpad bug 599928 in firefox (Ubuntu) "cannot create a new folder/ link/ separator on the quick link bar (above the tabs and below the address line) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/599928 [23:14] BUGabundo_DrWho: apparently Dr Who sent you into a time warp :) [23:14] yep [23:14] I've been rickroled [23:14] jdstrand: use needs to restart firefox after the update [23:14] *user [23:14] jdstrand, yeah, i was thinking what micahg just said [23:15] * micahg was going to comment later [23:15] that's what I was thinking too [23:15] those empty dialog boxes are tell-tale signs of the user having not restarted [23:15] alright, I'm heading out for a while now for real [23:15] chrisccoulson: and extensions patch of /u/l/firefox-3.6.3 is a good hint too :) [23:15] *path [23:16] micahg - ah, i didn't spot that [23:33] fta: i know it is, but they don't have a codename for FF 4.0 yet so i wasn't sure what to put. that can be changed quickly though, i just put something so i could make sure it would build. [23:36] fta: oh, that part...i never even noticed that changed :p [23:45] fixed that little issue, didn't see any others..