[15:58] <pepsiman> My computer sometimes hangs during shutdown, looking at the mythtv-backend logs for when this happened this morning, it appears that mysqld was stopped before mythtv-backend - start of a very long log: http://mythtv.pastebin.com/hdUT4nmp
[16:10] <superm1> pepsiman, i'm not sure we can control who gets the shutdown sent to it first
[16:11] <rhpot1991> shouldn't it still die when it gets the kill signal though?
[16:12] <pepsiman> I'm not even sure if it's mythtv-backend that is stopping the shutdown
[16:12] <pepsiman> syslog has stopped, so nothing gets logged
[16:13] <superm1> well all processes should get the shutdown signal sent at the same time
[16:14] <pepsiman> I'll try #upstart
[17:52] <KjetilK> if I enable http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/0.23/ubuntu, I will only get fixes that make my system stabler, right?
[17:52] <Zinn> [ppa.launchpad.net] Index of /mythbuntu/0.23/ubuntu
[18:01] <tgm4883> KjetilK, are there other kinds of fixes?
[18:01] <tgm4883> I mean, fixes that make your system unstabler don't seem like fixes
[18:02] <KjetilK> tgm4883, I just didn't feel completely confident about it from the docs...
[18:02] <tgm4883> What part of the docs?
[18:02] <KjetilK> it could be that they were backporting features
[18:02] <KjetilK>  http://mythbuntu.org/auto-builds
[18:02] <tgm4883> KjetilK, yes, I wrote that page. So what part
[18:03] <tgm4883> we aren't backporting features to 0.23. You are getting stuff from the 0.23-fixes branch upstream. That is what that PPA contains
[18:04] <KjetilK> ok, good
[18:04] <tgm4883> but what part of it is confusing, so I can fix it
[18:04] <KjetilK> so, mainly, I wasn't sure if there could be a trunk for 0.23
[18:05] <KjetilK> let me see if I can pinpoint it better
[18:08] <KjetilK> how about, in the FAQ: s/Most people will want to select the most current released MythTV version /Most people will want to select the most current released MythTV version as this contains only fixes/
[18:09] <KjetilK> or perhaps
[18:10] <jolaren> Greetings. I just got to my familys country house and I brought my Mythtvbackend with me. For the life of me I can't get live-tv to play
[18:11] <KjetilK> s/Most people will want to select the most current released MythTV version /Most people will want to select the most current released MythTV version as this provides updates that improves the system stability, but does not add features./
[18:15] <tgm4883> jolaren, backend logs?
[18:15] <tgm4883> same IP/host? same tv provider?
[18:16] <jolaren> tgm4883: same provider, i've tried to get all ip things right
[18:16] <tgm4883> jolaren, logs
[18:16] <jolaren> cuz I dont have a router in my house, I have a swithc/router and 4x 100/100mbits connections so it's been running "online" but now "offline"
[18:16] <jolaren> Im trying to get the logs
[18:16] <jolaren> but its taking forever
[18:16] <jolaren> posting the diagnostic ata...
[18:16] <jolaren> data'
[18:18] <jolaren> ERROR: Invalied POST request, or "paste_code" value empty.
[18:18] <jolaren> tgm4883: why do I get errors?
[18:19] <tgm4883> jolaren, are you using Mythbuntu-log-grabber?
[18:19] <jolaren> yes
[18:21] <tgm4883> what version?
[18:21] <jolaren> trunk, I think
[18:22] <jolaren> as soon as the log grabber thingy quits again i will take a look
[18:23] <tgm4883> jolaren, you need to be on 0.7-0ubuntu2 or later
[18:23] <tgm4883> if you are already, then pastebin changed their api again
[18:23] <tgm4883> jolaren, are you on 10.04?
[18:24] <jolaren> 10.04 - correct
[18:24] <jolaren> lucid
[18:24] <tgm4883> ok, check MLogG then
[18:24] <MisterK85> Hi everyone. I am wondering if the hardware I have is good enough for MythTV (just basically wanting to watch movies and maybe browse the net on the TV). I have 768MB of RAM, 128MB ATI Radeon 9250, AMD Sempron 2600+ (1.6GHz), and for Internet VIA Rhine LAN and Linksys WUSB54G WLAN.
[18:25] <jolaren> tgm4883: MlogG as in?
[18:25] <tgm4883> mythbuntu-log-grabber
[18:25] <tgm4883> sorry, internal name
[18:25] <tgm4883> check the version
[18:26] <tgm4883> You can get the latest version from https://edge.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/testing/+files/mythbuntu-log-grabber_0.7-0ubuntu2_all.deb
[18:26] <Zinn> [edge.launchpad.net]
[18:26] <tgm4883> if you need it
[18:26] <jolaren> 0.23 autobuilds
[18:27] <tgm4883> mythbuntu-log-grabber isn't in auto-builds
[18:27] <tgm4883> dpkg -l mythbuntu-log-grabber
[18:28] <jolaren> same version is already installed
[18:28] <jolaren> ii  mythbuntu-log- 0.7-0ubuntu2   Mythbuntu repos installer
[18:28] <tgm4883> hmm
[18:29] <jolaren> should I try to run control-centre as root?
[18:30] <jolaren> Can't understand why I can't gather the logs
[18:31] <jolaren> I get kicked back everytime when trying to view live tv
[18:31] <tgm4883> odd
[18:31] <tgm4883> jolaren, manually pastebin /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[18:32] <jolaren> 48000 lines
[18:33] <jolaren> Almost all entries look like this ProgramInfo(1097_20100428234500.mpg), Error: GetPlaybackURL: '1097_20100428234500.mpg' should be loc$
[18:34] <tgm4883> the $ means that there is more to the line
[18:36] <jolaren> Got the PM? I don't know if theres anythin sensitive in it so I pmed
[18:36] <jolaren> if thats okay
[18:38] <tgm4883> jolaren, does 1003_20100318020606.mpg exist?
[18:41] <tgm4883> jolaren, also looks like you have mysql issues
[18:41] <jolaren> cant find it manually
[18:41] <jolaren> or with find
[18:41] <jolaren> 1003_20100318020606
[18:41] <jolaren> .mpg
[18:42] <tgm4883> jolaren, do you have any external drives?
[18:42] <jolaren> No
[18:42] <tgm4883> jolaren, how many hard drives do you have in your system?
[18:42] <jolaren> I used to a few months ago but that shouldn't be relevant
[18:42] <jolaren> One, atm
[18:42] <jolaren> 1x 1tb drive
[18:43] <tgm4883> jolaren, is mysql started?
[18:44] <jolaren> I was in there changing the IP a few minutes ago, in the my.cnf
[18:44] <jolaren> how to see if its started tho?
[18:45] <jolaren> So annoying.. my box has just been "owkring" for the past year and a half, but now when moving it it's all falling to pieces :P
[18:46] <jolaren> working
[18:54] <jolaren> got anymore tips tgm4883
[19:09] <tgm4883> service mysqld status
[19:09] <tgm4883> jolaren, maybe^
[19:09] <jolaren> sqld = unrecognized but =sql
[19:09] <jolaren> joel@undin:~/Publikt/servify$ service mysql status
[19:09] <jolaren> mysql start/running, process 1127
[19:11] <tgm4883> jolaren, did you rerun mythtv-setup?
[19:13] <jolaren> yeah and ran a channel search w/e
[19:18] <jolaren> When pressing watch live tv it just loads then kicks me back
[19:49] <MisterK85> Does Mythbuntu work with ATI Radeon 9250?
[19:49] <chiluk> if you go to the info center what does it say as your tuner status?
[19:50] <chiluk> fyi they shouldn't be asleep.
[19:51] <Shadow__X> MisterK85: mythbuntu will work through vesa drivers dont dont expect very much out of it
[19:52] <MisterK85> Shadow__X: I'm trying to get it to install, but for some stupid reason it won't bring me into the installation.
[19:53] <MisterK85> All I really want it for is to watch some downloaded TV shows.
[19:55] <MisterK85> It just, at this time, throws me to a blinking white cursor...
[19:55] <Shadow__X> MisterK85: right but that card is old and the driver support for it isnt great at all
[19:55] <Shadow__X> the path of least resistance imo is getting a geforce 5700 or 6xxx that would go in that machine
[19:56] <MisterK85> Really don't want to go out and buy another video card for basic movie watching.
[19:56] <MisterK85> I don't even want to do the whole Live TV thing.
[20:02] <Shadow__X> i get that but what i am saying is that watching a video in linux with a card that doesnt have a good driver might just put you in a slideshow
[20:02] <MisterK85> True...
[20:02] <MisterK85> Guess I should stick with Winblows.
[20:04] <Shadow__X> are you trying to record shows
[20:04] <MisterK85> Nope, just watch.
[20:04] <Shadow__X> or are you just going to play videos off of your hard drive
[20:04] <Shadow__X> then whats the point of using mythtv?
[20:05] <MisterK85> I want a nice basic interface for watching shows with.
[20:05] <MisterK85> It's going to be a system stogged behind a desk where nobody sees anything.
[20:05] <Shadow__X> right but mythtv is designed to be much more then what you want to use it for
[20:06] <Shadow__X> since you wont be recording i would recommend you looking towards xbmc or boxee or something similiar because that is geared more towards what you will be using it for
[20:07] <Shadow__X> so i would just install a regular ubuntu installation install the driver it prompts you to install for the video
[20:07] <Shadow__X> and install xbmc or boxee and just set those up
[20:07] <MisterK85> I tried XBMC (which works great on my laptop in Win7, but XP... not so lucky).
[20:07] <Shadow__X> mythtv requires more than just the frontend you need backend web server mysql
[20:08] <Shadow__X> i would make sure you have drivers installed
[20:08] <Shadow__X> also you need to be reasonable you arent going to watch 1080p video on a p4 with a ati 9250 card
[20:09] <MisterK85> Most I'm watching is like XviD/DivX files, far from being HD. Most of which are just the M*A*S*H TV Series (11 Seasons)
[20:11] <Shadow__X> ok well again xbmc is geared more towards what you want to do and i would try it again because i have gotten it working and if you have trouble you can visit #xmbc
[20:12] <MisterK85> Shall do. :)
[20:12] <Shadow__X> yup
[22:03] <willebanks> good after noon all
[22:06] <willebanks> I'm trying to find out if it is possible to use MythTV to record tv VIA my AT&T uverse vip TV out plugs
[22:23] <tgm4883> willebanks, you may have better luck in #mythtv-users
[22:25] <willebanks> thanks