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Tm_Tthat00:44
IdleOnewhat00:44
funkyHat hat00:45
bazhang@00:45
IdleOnesat00:45
bazhanggothenburg has had more than enough warnings for his nonsense.00:57
Tm_Tbazhang: have he said anything since I warned him?00:58
bazhangTm_T, earlier today/yesterday he did; he told some user to RT<fine>M and called him a noob; I was away eating dinner so missed it.00:59
bazhangjust waiting for the next instance01:00
Tm_Tsame, I have him on my hilight01:00
bazhangwhoa not a nice translated message01:03
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dasuhi is there any reason why #ubuntu remains +r?01:53
dasuit causes problems for newbies01:53
dasuno one wants to register to nickserv for quick ubuntu help :D01:53
h00kdasu: I'm not sure why they did earlier, but it's likely because of spam01:54
h00kdasu: it isn't always set +r01:54
Tm_Tit's because of spam01:54
dasuok I was just letting you know, as I don't see spam recently annd it's been +r for a while I think01:54
dasuisn't there bots that auto ban spam?01:55
dasuauto banning spam is better than limiting all users who need help and dont have nickserv, IMO01:55
h00kyes, they set +r. Users get sent to #ubuntu-unregged with instructions on how to register and identify01:55
Tm_Tdasu: that wont stop this kind of spam, unfortunately01:55
dasuthat isn't easy to do and it makes new users think ubuntu is too hard, i think01:56
Tm_Tdasu: as they spam and go, with numbers01:56
h00kand it's nice to prevent it, rather than chase it around :(01:56
dasuif I just downloaded ubuntu and needed irc help, i wouldn't bother to register my nickname here, and would just reinstall windows01:56
h00k/join; spam; part;01:56
dasuwell idoru klines them01:56
dasu:]01:56
Tm_Tdasu: which wont help when they come next round01:57
h00ksure, after they've spammed.01:57
Tm_T+that01:57
dasuif they are klined they can't spam anymore?01:57
dasuand spammers can make nickserv accounts, but n00bs wont01:57
bazhangvery easy to register and identify and very helpful staff in #freenode01:58
dasunoobs wont unless they are determined to use ubuntu01:58
h00kAlso, we don't appreciate the term 'n00b' and the like01:58
dasuthey will just reinstall windows01:58
IdleOnedasu: We appreciate your concerns but if a new user to Ubuntu really wants to get ubuntu support they will understand the importance of registering01:59
bazhangdasu, never seen it as an issue, to be honest.01:59
IdleOneand the reason why we are asking them to do so at this point in time01:59
IdleOnedasu: registering to nickerv is no more complicated then having to register for a forum02:00
bazhanglately the spammers have made the channel much less usable. I imagine newer users would have trouble getting help with the spamfloods02:00
h00kit's also very distracting02:01
IdleOnewith 12 years on irc I doubt I could get any help in #ubuntu if we didn't set +r02:01
IdleOneI see. you just don't want to register02:03
Seeker`dasu: you don't see any spam in #ubuntu *because* it is +r02:10
dasuwhatever02:10
dasujust want the +r removed it is useless imop02:11
dasubye02:11
bazhangbye02:11
bazhangthat was odd02:11
IdleOnenot odd ata ll02:11
IdleOneat all*02:11
IdleOnehe likes to argue02:11
bazhangaha02:12
IdleOne-NickServ- dasu is not registered.02:13
IdleOneguess he does not want big bad freenode having his email02:13
bazhangblendmaster1024, hi02:19
blendmaster1024...02:19
blendmaster1024how did i get in here?02:19
blendmaster1024all i did was open my client ..02:20
bazhangban forward I suspect02:20
blendmaster1024why would i ... oh yeah02:20
* blendmaster1024 rolls his eyes02:20
IdleOnethat is odd02:21
bazhanghim being banned?02:21
IdleOnefor someone who spent so much time in -ot to refuse to discuss why and how to resolve the ban02:22
IdleOneseriously though @comments are so awesomely helpful02:22
bazhangyoplait, hi03:00
yoplaitello03:00
bazhangyoplait, what can we help you with today03:00
yoplaitwell, i'd like to know what to feed my pet piraƱa.03:00
bazhangyoplait, perhaps try #defocus or #ubuntu-offtopic03:01
yoplaitoh03:01
IdleOnebazhang: ban evading03:01
yoplaitI thought i was in offtopi03:01
yoplaitc03:01
yoplaitNo, no..03:01
yoplaiti'll go away, lol sorry03:01
yoplait...03:02
IdleOneyoplait: welcome back03:02
yoplaithaha03:02
yoplaitit says im banned from offtopic?03:02
IdleOneyoplait: you will continue to be sent here as long as you try to join #ubuntu-offtopic03:02
yoplaitI've never been there.03:02
bazhangIdleOne, ban forward, but a pretty broad ban03:02
yoplaitwhat's that?03:03
IdleOneyoplait: do you use any other nicknames?03:03
yoplaitwas my ip area banned or something like that?03:03
yoplaitnope this is it03:03
yoplaitso far03:03
IdleOnefunkyHat: ping03:06
IdleOneyoplait: give us a few minutes please03:06
bazhangyoplait, uLinux was a previous nick?03:06
yoplaitnever had that nickname03:07
funkyHatIdleOne: hi03:14
bazhangfunkyHat, uLinux ban may have caught yoplait03:14
IdleOnefunkyHat: can you take a look at  2618803:14
funkyHat@btlogin03:14
funkyHatyoplait: I've removed the ban, sorry about that. Hopefully the person who was causing problems before won't reappear.03:19
IdleOneyoplait: try joining #uubntu-offtopic now03:21
IdleOneerr03:21
IdleOnespell it correctly though :)03:21
funkyHat;)03:21
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ubottuIn ubottu, IdleOne said: lmgtfy is Acronyms or statements like noob, jfgi, lmgtfy, stfu, or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.06:44
bazhangshould be !no factoid is <reply> etc etc06:53
IdleOne!no lmgtfy is <reply> Acronyms or statements like noob, jfgi, lmgtfy, stfu, or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.06:55
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, IdleOne said: !no lmgtfy is <reply> Acronyms or statements like noob, jfgi, lmgtfy, stfu, or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.06:55
IdleOnebetter :)06:55
jussi!google07:02
ubottuWhile Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.07:02
jussiIdleOne: perhaps !lmgtfy is <alias>google ?07:02
FlannelI think that'd be more appropriate07:03
IdleOnesounds good07:03
jussi!lmgtfy is <alias>google07:07
ubottuBut lmgtfy already means something else!07:07
jussi!lmgtfy07:07
ubottuAcronyms or statements like noob, jfgi, stfu, or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.07:07
jussi!-lmgtfy07:07
ubottulmgtfy is <alias> noob - added by elky on 2009-12-26 04:08:02 - last edited by Pici on 2010-05-25 18:45:2807:07
jussi!no lmgtfy is <alias>google07:07
ubottuYou are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm07:07
jussi!no lmgtfy is <alias>google07:07
jussibetter like that methinks07:07
jussi!lmgtfy07:08
Flannel!lmgtfy07:08
ubottuAcronyms or statements like noob, jfgi, stfu, or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.07:08
jussilol07:08
jussi!no lmgtfy is <alias>google07:08
ubottuYou are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm07:08
jussi!no lmgtfy is <alias>google07:08
jussihrr07:08
jussiI figure it out later. too early in the morning07:08
FlannelI've always gotta massage alias modifications too, no idea why07:08
IdleOneI still think the acronym lmgtfy should be added to the !noob factoid07:08
Flannel!lmgtfy07:10
ubottuWhile Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.07:10
Flanneljussi: I think the repeat of identical command triggers spam prevention or something, I got it to work by doing "no, lmgtfy is..." and then "no lmgtfy is..." (difference of a comma)07:11
jussiyeah07:11
jussithat is in there, so sounds right.m07:11
jussimornings...07:11
FlannelInteresting that even without the change it triggers a touch of the factoid07:11
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, rww said: !stop =~ s/o4o/guidelines/07:53
bazhang<joshmuffin> Is there rules against flooding in #ubuntu-bots?08:55
bazhangnice answer tsimpson :)08:56
tsimpsonwell, it's the truth ;)08:56
ubottuIn #ubuntu-bots, joshmuffin said: !songbird is the best itunes alternative09:00
ubottuIn #ubuntu-bots, joshmuffin said: !songbird is the best program09:00
* tsimpson suspects he's not going to remain in a good mood for much longer09:01
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from joshmuffin)09:14
rocket16Hello hon'ble operators,09:28
rocket16I have a question,09:28
rocket16How to add more info to the database of Ubutto?09:29
rocket16And are we allowed to do so?09:29
rocket16Did I ask anything wrong?09:32
rocket16Anybody here?09:47
rocket16Have I been quieted?09:47
ubottuIn ubottu, globalmixmaster_ said: !silence is to remain silent and let the others talk10:08
bazhangIdleOne, you called it on dasu11:04
marienzhmm? now what did he do11:11
knomemneptok, if i am correct, i am not authorized :P11:12
jpdsIs smallfoot- suppose to be in #u?11:30
bazhangmarienz, arguing in here earlier that #ubuntu should not be +r, then in #freenode that user should be -i so he can stalk them more easily11:34
bazhangjpds, just banned in #ubuntu+1 and -offtopic11:35
bazhanghe wanted there to be a #ubuntu-whining channel11:36
jpdsNice.11:36
jussi/mode #ubuntu-whining +if #ubuntu-offtopic :P :P11:37
jussihello LjL11:39
LjLhey there are some users in #ubuntu-unregged which seem clearly part of a botnet. dunno if staff would like to check them out11:39
LjLhi jussi11:39
jussimarienz: ^^11:39
LjLat least I9fN5mE95e4xAt  hNjM3om9RgNnrk0N LyCOnIPnDf  eYWW8ChD11:40
marienzany others?11:41
jussimarienz: he said thank you :)11:46
marienzjussi: I saw (see #-unreg itself)11:47
ubottuIn ubottu, Uboy said: no, ff is ff13:08
ubottuFloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)13:19
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)13:19
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IdleOneMorning14:57
funkyHatHello!15:00
PiciAloha15:00
jpdsOlaho.15:06
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PiciwonkyHat: incoming15:12
polominthi15:12
wonkyHatHi polomint15:12
polomintwhat the hell is going on?15:13
wonkyHatpolomint: please read the Ubuntu IRC guidelines15:13
wonkyHat!guidelines15:13
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines15:13
polomintif id been abusive then a ban is fine, also ubuntu forums have language. fair enough but i never cussed,,,15:14
IdleOneread the section on obfuscating15:14
IdleOneyou did. 3 times15:14
polomintthis isnt a great way to welcome new users... :(15:14
polomintsry if i did, its auto for me15:14
IdleOnealso not a great way for new users to introduce themself15:14
polomintyes i agree,15:15
topylipolomint: you doubled it after being asked not to15:15
polomintdo u never auto type?15:15
polomintlike typing lol after someting?15:15
IdleOnelol anf F*** is very different15:15
topyliwhat a terrible excuse15:16
Picicooks.15:16
polomintso we cant put stars in front of a cuss?15:16
polomintok15:16
IdleOnePici: agreed, I will back away from the stove15:16
PiciIdleOne: :)15:16
polomintok, ill not say much again, can i be allowed back in?15:17
IdleOneit's up to wonkyHat15:17
wonkyHatpolomint: have you read the guidelines?15:17
polomintsome of them, but its common sense... dont post dodgy links, dont cuss, etc... ok15:17
polominti understand15:18
polomintwell?15:19
wonkyHatPlease finish reading them, and then if you agree to follow them I will remove the ban.15:19
polomintok, let me check them again...15:20
polomintCode of Conduct, hard to read, but easier than most....15:22
polomintalthough "#ubuntu is an English language channel. " should be changed, i thought ubuntu was an african term,,,15:23
wonkyHatRight, but it refers to the fact that people are expected to speak English in the #ubuntu channel itself. Supporting a room with multiple languages would get very difficult, so we have other channels for non-English speakers.15:24
polomintyes i understand that, i know how hard it is to support multiple langs15:25
polominthow many langs does ubu work with? forums/irc?15:25
IdleOnehttps://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/15:26
Pici!loco15:27
ubottuInformation on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams15:27
polomintahh, it seems like u lot know alot...   do any of u use mono? is it worth it? ive been looking at code:blocks too15:27
wonkyHatpolomint: this channel is only for resolving bans in #ubuntu* IRC channels, not other discussion15:27
polominto ok, but unfortunately i cant get in the normal offtopic channel atm, :(15:28
wonkyHatpolomint: did you finish reading the guidelines?15:28
polomintyes15:28
wonkyHatAnd you agree to follow them?15:29
polominthard damn work, but i uderstand, yes15:29
polominthard to read i mean15:29
polominti like this damn OS, so ill do whatever i need to stay15:30
IdleOnedrop the damn's also15:30
IdleOneplease15:30
* polomint waits for monodevelop to be good15:30
polomintok IdleOne , sry15:30
wonkyHatpolomint: the ban is lifted15:31
polomintty, sry for the hassle15:31
polomintit wasnt intended15:31
wonkyHatpolomint: no hard feelings :). If that is all this channel has a no idling policy, so please /part here now.15:33
IdleOnepolomint is pushing the limits15:37
IdleOneahh your still here15:37
IdleOnewell that will save you having to join again when you get banned15:37
bazhangpolomint, please part the channel here15:41
polomintpart?15:42
polomintexit?15:42
IdleOnetype /part15:42
gordpolomint, type /part15:42
bazhangyes15:42
IdleOneI learned a valuable lesson this morning.15:56
IdleOneDon't mention -ops in -ot15:56
IdleOne:(15:56
jpdsWhy not?15:57
bazhangthe ongoing discussion in -ot that followed15:57
IdleOneit's like I set fire to a gas station15:57
abhi_navhello guys here I am again :)16:30
bazhangabhi_nav, hi16:30
abhi_navhi16:30
IdleOnewhat's up16:30
IdleOne?16:30
abhi_navI need to know procedure to update our #ubuntu-in channel guidelines? how to? what should I do?16:30
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abhi_navIdleOne, ^^16:30
IdleOneabhi_nav: I would refer you to #ubuntu-locoteams16:31
abhi_navok16:31
IdleOnethey will know more then I do on the subject16:31
abhi_navyah ok i am there16:31
bazhangabhi_nav, was there anything else you need assistance with?16:32
abhi_navbazhang, actualy wait. because if nothing happens there then i still need to be here16:32
abhi_navbecause still nobody reply there16:32
IdleOneabhi_nav: not really, this channel is for discussing #ubuntu* bans and such.16:33
abhi_navIdleOne, but what is nothing happends there? where do i go?16:34
Piciabhi_nav: #ubuntu-irc would be more appropriate.16:34
abhi_navok16:34
IdleOneabhi_nav: popey just answered you :)16:34
abhi_navyah just now16:34
abhi_navso i go from here now.16:34
abhi_navthank you all.16:34
gay_jesuswhat did i do wrong?16:34
gay_jesusis ubuntu supportative of the gay community??? yes or no16:34
gay_jesusso far i'm seeing NO16:34
bazhanggay_jesus, that has nothing to do with ubuntu support16:35
gay_jesusyes it does16:35
gay_jesusi'm wondering whether or not to switch to it16:35
gay_jesusand i want to know if ubuntu is supportative of the gay community16:35
gay_jesusi can now see it isn't16:35
gay_jesusyou're a bunch of homophones16:35
gay_jesusyou're a bunch of homophobes16:36
IdleOnegay_jesus: sexual preference has nothing to do with Ubuntu16:36
gay_jesusi was asking if there were any homosexual coders on the Ubuntu team16:36
gay_jesusi was banned based upon my sexual preference!16:37
IdleOnegay_jesus: probably but who cares16:37
bazhangwhich has zero to do with ubuntu technical support16:37
bazhangthus offtopic, and highly inflammatory16:37
gay_jesusthat is untrue, because i don't want to run an operating system that is coded by homophobes16:37
gay_jesusbazhang: you're a homophobe16:38
gay_jesusJesus is going to send you to hell16:38
gay_jesusyou too IdleOne16:38
Picigay_jesus: Are you finished?16:38
IdleOnebeen there, done that.16:38
gay_jesusno16:38
gay_jesusi'm not16:39
gay_jesusUbuntu sucks, it's like windows16:39
gay_jesusbut for idiots16:39
bazhangokay then16:39
gay_jesusyou guys are like Microsoft employees16:39
gay_jesusbut without a paycheck16:39
gay_jesusyour operating system sucks, run Debian it's better16:39
Murdukhomophobia is offtopic on freenode16:39
IdleOnesadness16:40
PiciMurduk: do you have anything on-topic to disucss here? Please make note of our channel topic.  Otherwise, have a nice day.16:42
PiciMurduk: You can still talk, just only I can see you.16:43
bazhangbots set #ubuntu to -r , is that okay?16:45
IdleOnewill see16:46
PiciProbably not.16:46
Picioops16:46
PiciSince the guys here were probably related to the attack, we'll see.16:47
bazhangthat was too synchronized to have been a coincidence16:48
PiciNo kidding.16:48
PiciHe was asking me in pm why his friend gay_jesus was being persecuted.16:48
bazhangargh17:08
ikoniaPici: he's fine in -ot17:19
bazhanghe means he can't join here17:19
ikoniaI can't see a ban on him anymore17:19
IdleOnePici: removed it17:19
bazhangit was removed a short time ago17:19
ikoniax0x now trolling #puppylinux17:22
ikonia#puppylinux/#debian17:23
IdleOneI am not sure how his trolling of other linux channels is any of our business but it does show a pattern of trollish behavior17:25
ikoniait not "our" business17:25
bazhangindeed not17:25
ikoniaI'm just discussing him to you as individuals17:25
IdleOneahh17:25
bazhangyep17:25
IdleOnewell then ok17:25
ikoniahe says "I love you $distro" in channels, waits a while then says "I love you $wrong_distro" to try to provoke people17:25
IdleOneI find it less stressful to ignore him17:26
ikoniait's one of his standard trolls psi_jack in ##linux has tried to get him to stop17:26
IdleOnehe has a talent at getting under the skin17:26
ikoniaI don't care less really, he's not getting back into #ubuntu with this attitude, so it's not a real problem for any of the channels I'm really active in17:26
PiciI can't tell you all what to do in channels outside our namespace, but I highly suggest not provoking.17:28
ikoniaI'm not provoking17:29
ikoniahe wants to brag about false certification, he has to be able to back it up17:29
ikoniapoor guy in #ubuntu just got killed by the freenode bot for spamming17:31
ikoniaI think he just messed up his paste buffer in frustration17:31
erUSULskydrome here again 18:43 < skydrome> HTML: Unable to validate | Takeasy: You need to supply a URI scheme (e.g http)17:44
jussierUSUL: sorted17:51
erUSULk17:51
* erUSUL ciao17:51
skydromehey jussi, just got your pm and disabled the !html script17:57
jussiskydrome: any other scripts you have that make noise should be disabled also17:58
skydromeyes sorry, there are no others17:58
jussiskydrome: no probs, you can rejoin #ubuntu17:59
skydromethanks17:59
jussinice when they are that easy :)17:59
shadeslayerhi anyone around?19:45
shadeslayerneed to report a nick Z-RAY19:45
shadeslayerhe is asking support questions in non support channels19:45
Picishadeslayer: Which other channels?19:46
shadeslayerPici: #kubuntu-bugs19:46
shadeslayer#ubuntu-packaging , #kubuntu-devel19:46
shadeslayerto name a few...19:46
Picishadeslayer: meh, thanks.19:47
shadeslayercross posting :)19:47
Picishadeslayer: not 'meh' to you ;)19:47
shadeslayerof course :P19:47
shadeslayerok ciao then19:47
Picitsimpson: You mentioned muting him somewhere, were you talking to him in pm?19:47
tsimpsonI sent a msg, but the only response I got was in +119:48
* tsimpson tries again19:48
tsimpsonstill no response as yet19:50
tsimpsoneven though he's active in another channel...19:51
tsimpsonI got some response now, but they are having difficulty understanding that channels have topics19:59
mneptokanyone here use OpenBSD on Mac68K? i have some MacOS 7.5 chainload questions ...20:14
* mneptok runs20:14
* gnomefreak never had good luck with bsd ever20:16
gnomefreakzray is mine20:16
gnomefreak;)20:16
gnomefreakubottu: thanks20:25
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)20:25
gnomefreak!treat20:26
gnomefreakor not20:26
Pici!botsnack20:26
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!20:26
gnomefreak:)20:26
ubottuIn #ubuntu, tahsin said: ubottu: my system is 64bit22:23
Jordan_Ubcj and PigeonCluster are posting mallicious commands.22:33
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