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Riddell20100628.1 kubuntu desktop image is in reasonable shape00:43
Riddelloversized though, a rebuild should fix that, I changed the seeds and meta package00:44
cjwatsonjust langpacks, or more?00:44
ScottKcjwatson: It was more.  We're trying to consolidate the desktop and netbook ISOs into a single image so it grew a bit.02:32
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ogralamont, we have a "tiny" prob with BuildLiveCD ... seems somewheer there was introduced a var called SUBARCHARG that gets handed over to livecd.sh but is never set anywhere08:56
ttxogasawara: late wednesday sounds ok to me.11:03
* pitti waves hello11:12
pitticjwatson: so is it up to us to do alpha-2 again then? I didn't really talk about that with anyone so far11:13
pittiI'll start with discussing the oversizedness11:15
cjwatsonI think so; I asked Keybuk if he could help out as well11:16
pittihttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.txt *sigh*11:16
cjwatsonI've been looking at installability problems11:16
cjwatsonthough I also have a grub2 bug I want to fix first, as it's on the list for 10.04.111:17
pitticjwatson: ok, then do that, I'll start with poking c-m11:17
cjwatsonbuilding some candidate lucid CDs as well11:18
cjwatsonmight as well get started on that11:18
cjwatsonneed to do something about omap kernel seeding11:19
cjwatsonnot to mention what d-i should be built against11:19
* cjwatson wonders why current sparc kernel udebs are NBS11:19
arawho is going to send the alpha 2 freeze announcement?11:20
cjwatsonoh, I'll do that now11:20
Keybukit's been quite a while since I've done any archive/release stuff11:21
pittihello Keybuk, how are you?11:22
Keybuknot so bad, you?11:22
pittiquite well, thanks11:22
cjwatsonara: sent11:24
aracjwatson, thanks :)11:24
Riddellkubuntu CDs need a rebuild, kubuntu-meta wasn't compiled in time on amd64 so it's still oversized there11:25
cjwatsonwhich CDs, alternate or desktop or both?11:25
Riddellboth11:25
cjwatsonin progress now11:25
Riddellthanks11:26
cjwatsonI love this business of having a huge external disk to keep CD images on11:26
cjwatsonand virtual machines11:26
pitticjwatson: "huge external disk to keep CD images on" -> isn't that called "lillypilly"? I have one as well, quite nice :)11:28
pittierm, no, antimony I mean11:29
cjwatsonI have this bandwidth problem11:29
Keybukcjwatson: it could be worse, you could be on Virgin Media11:44
pittidoes anyone know how to call cd-size-analysis? With two .isos it gives empty output, and with list files it looks implausible11:53
pittiand the code only calls isoinfo non ARGV[0]11:54
pittis/non/on/11:54
pittibut at the same time it uses the package list parsing code on argv[0] and [1]11:54
pittithis doesn't make sense to me11:54
pitticjwatson: is yuour lp-remove-package still actually runnign? you started it more than half an hour ago11:57
cjwatsonpitti: sorry, finished now12:21
pitticjwatson: thanks; killed netbook-launcher12:21
ograpitti, if that helps you, i think netbook-launcher-efl can become armel only but i guess that requires some seed fiddling12:22
pittiogra: not really; I was cleaning up component-mismatches and installatibliy12:22
ograah12:23
pittinow I'm wading through the 20 MB of fat that we grew since alpha-112:23
ograi thought oversizedness12:23
pittiI have a list of the new pacakges, which account for 612:23
pittino idea where the other 14 come from12:23
cjwatsonRiddell: amd64 desktop build failed, BTW12:28
ograhrm, there is some gtk+ fallout atm12:29
ograat least i see it on armel12:29
Riddellcjwatson: tsk12:32
ScottK4.4.90 isn't built on amd64 yet, so I'd have been a bit suprised if it worked.12:41
ScottKActually it's just now finishing on i386.12:41
ScottKcjwatson: Would you please rescore kdeartwork kdeplasma-addons for amd64?  That should get everything we need for Alpha 2 images done.12:47
cjwatsondone (just did it on all arches)12:51
ScottKThanks.12:52
ScottKThere's a roughly zero percent chance of useful armel images for Kubuntu (of any flavor) for this milestone.12:52
ScottKFYI12:52
ograScottK, well, the arm team is happy if we make A2 at all since we completely redesigned the kind of images we build12:54
ograScottK, on a sidenote all armel builds are disabled atm and i'll only enable ubuntu-netbook once we know it succeeds building, we can talk about kubuntu-netbook for A312:55
ScottKogra: I understand.  Just wanted people know there was no point in even trying for that one.12:57
ograright, wont be tried12:57
RiddellScottK: actually the amd64 issue was all seb128's fault  "  libgtk2.0-bin: Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.21.2-0ubuntu4) but 2.21.2-0ubuntu3 is to be installed"12:59
ograyeh12:59
ograsame on armel12:59
seb128right, and I just did another gtk upload12:59
seb128sorry about that12:59
Riddellwe'll let you off seb128, but only because you're cute :)12:59
ograthough i wasnt aware that kubuntu ships gtk13:00
seb128lol13:00
Riddellogra: we try not to but openoffice seems to bring it in these days13:00
ScottKRiddell: I think we want all of 4.4.90 on the alpha 2 images, so it's best to have it finished.13:00
ograah13:00
ograRiddell, time to switch to the weboffice stuff we use on armel ;)13:00
ScottKThe would definitely help ISO sizing.13:01
ScottKWe could ship all kinds of games then.13:01
ograheh13:01
ograkubuntu - the new gamers distro13:01
RiddellScottK: plasma-netbook seems to be working on the kubuntu desktop images so I think we can not include kubuntu netbook in this alpha13:02
Riddellwell when I say working, it's got problems, but not due to the new pick-your-workspace magic13:02
ScottKRiddell: Should we update kubuntu-netbook to be a transitional package then?13:02
RiddellScottK: yes can do13:03
pitticjwatson: FYI, I wrote a script "iso-deb-size-compare" which does what I need13:15
pittihttp://pastebin.com/Jzt2EgDq is the output13:15
pittioops, and now with correct total added size: http://pastebin.com/3MU8aQm613:17
pittiso, gnome-icon-theme, samba/smbclient, and ghostscript13:20
* pitti drops samba from ship *shrug*13:26
pittiwe have a nice auto-installer now13:26
ScottKcjwatson: OOo is depwait on libtextcat-data-utf8 just on i386.  Since it's already built on amd64, it might make sense to pre-promote libtextcat-data-utf8 so we don't have version skew between the archs.14:07
pittithe MIR says it's going away again, but I promote it now and milestone the bug14:35
ScottKSounds good.14:40
arado we have an eta to start seeing images to test in the iso tracker?14:45
cjwatsonI'm poking ev about a ubiquity upload, which I'd like to have first14:50
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ttxpitti, cjwatson: when are the first ubuntu-server A2 milestone candidates expected ?15:31
pittiI'm off for 30 mins, bbl15:31
* ttx currently sees a 20100629.215:32
Riddellall of kde built now, kubuntu images can be made whenever15:37
* Riddell wonders what colin is editing in ./kubuntu/daily/20100629.1/.htaccess15:37
cjwatsonRiddell: bug 57185215:47
ubot4Launchpad bug 571852 in ubuntu (and 1 other project) "poor description of .zsync download files on releases.ubuntu.com (affects: 1) (heat: 67)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57185215:47
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pittifor the records, I checked samba balooning, not much we can do; the executables themselves grew, binary debdiff empty16:21
pittiwe also checked gnome-icon-theme and figured out some 3 MB saving potential; Seb is on it16:21
pittistill discussing ghostscript16:21
GrueMasterIs someone watching the armel buildd's?  There are two currently building different versions of gtk+2.0 (0ubuntu4 and 0ubuntu5).16:25
GrueMasterSame major release number.16:25
pittiunfortunately we can't kill builds as buildd-admins, that needs someone with root access16:26
GrueMasterOn x86 hardware, this wouldn't be an issue.  But on the armel pool, these builds can take hours, even days.16:27
cjwatsonGrueMaster: lamont is the person you need to contact16:27
GrueMasterok.16:27
cjwatson(as Ubuntu OSA)16:28
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pittiso, I removed almost all of the (very few) remaining langpacks, and with today's gnome-icon-theme, cups, and anthy uploads and samba ship dropping we should hopefully be back in size limit19:03
pittibut we need to wait until the dailies tomorrow, oo.o is still building and will take a while19:03
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pittioh, xserver-common grew from 0.1 to 1.1 MB due to the upstream changelog .. /me fixes19:06
slangasekoh huh, samba was in ship?19:16
pittiyes19:28
pittianother "first against the wall" kind of removals19:28
pittiin general, latest samba grew quite a bit19:28
slangasekyes, known issue upstream :(19:29
pittioh, it's more than just general code growth?19:30
pittiI debdiffed the binaries and hoped for some extra documentation etc., but it's really the executables themselves19:30
slangasekit's a pathological lack of shared libraries19:35
smoserhey all.  sorry to be a pain, but bug 599921 is currently blocking uec images builds.  I have to step out for several hours now. will check in later.20:47
ubot4Launchpad bug 599921 in pyyaml (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "python-yaml 3.09-3 is not installable (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59992120:47

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