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SpamapSmathiaz: right but can we do that on launchpad?00:01
mathiazSpamapS: I think so00:03
SpamapSmathiaz: otherwise, I like it a lot.. am using it right now to build python-libgearman. :)00:04
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civproim wanting to cluster 120 dedicated server together to start with02:57
civpromore will be added laster02:57
civprolater*02:57
civproany recommendation on software to manage this?02:57
lifelesspuppet/chef is good03:01
lifelessUbuntu Enterprise Cloud is nice too03:01
civprocool03:02
civprolifeless, can it handle that many servers?03:03
lifelesssure03:04
civprook any with a web interface for management?03:05
civproor is that going to far :)03:05
civproalso what is the best free one lifeless03:06
civprosorry for all the questions, just trying to make a decision here03:06
civprolinks are good also if you have them m803:06
lifelesshttp://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/private03:07
civproty03:07
civproperfect :)03:08
civpro1 last question, if u already have ubuntu installed can you setup cloud afterwards or does it have to be during initial setup?03:08
civprogot to do this remotely03:09
civprothrough a net install03:09
lifelesscan do it later yes03:12
civprosweet03:12
lifelessthere are some quirks on networking -see help.ubuntu.com/UEC (I think that that is right) for more info03:12
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civprobad link03:13
civprofound it03:13
Jeeves_Mosshow can I set wget to "spider" a website, and d-load only the files from a specific directory?03:16
civprodont know how to with wget but i do with php03:17
civprosorry03:17
Jeeves_Mosscivpro, lol, I need to run it as cron03:18
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civprou can run php as a cron03:18
civproi do it all the time03:18
Jeeves_Mossthen, eventually, I need to write a PHP script that allows people to rate pictures (more like classify them), then when they choose to view pictures by class, the webpage will read the database and show the top pics based on votes, etc for the pics03:19
civproya easy enough03:19
civprosounds like mysql/php would be a good solution for that03:19
civprok so make a database03:20
civproid | name | link03:20
Jeeves_Mosscivpro,  lol, for you!!  And yes, the web pages will be PHP/MySQL baised. I have verry LITTLE exp with both, so, I'll have to learn.03:20
civprothen another table to tie in the picture id to the rating03:20
Jeeves_MossI'm thinking id | thumb nail location | real file location, etc03:20
civproya man, but u can do soooooo much with php m803:21
pmatulisJeeves_Moss: re your original question, investigate lftp03:21
civproya either way, u get the idea03:21
Jeeves_Mosscivpro, yep03:21
civproill trade u project, lol03:22
Jeeves_Mosscivpro, as I said, for me, it's the cron job that'll read the file, d-load it, then imput it into the database, and make the thumbnail03:22
civprojeeves this might help03:22
civproscandir = makes an array03:22
civproand are u familiar with regex expressions?03:22
civpropreg_match03:22
civprois another u will need03:23
civproand file_get_contents03:23
Jeeves_Mosscivpro, well, the way I thought it'd work is to scrape the pics, d-load them, make the thumbs, then enter the new files into the database03:23
civproand a few more :P03:23
civprowell can i suggest something?03:23
Jeeves_Mosssure03:23
civprowhy instead of making seperate thumbnails03:23
Jeeves_Mossa person dosn't grow unless they learn03:24
civprouse gdimage to reprocess the images on the fly03:24
Jeeves_MossI was thinking the one time CPU hit ot make the thumbnails would be better than a few thousand hits03:24
civprothat way 1 file just reprocessed to correct ratio03:24
civproits not hitting it a thousand times03:24
civprou would have something like this03:24
civpro<img src="processimage.php?width=20px&file=mypic.jpg&directory=/images/03:25
civprooops03:25
civpro<img src="processimage.php?width=20px&file=mypic.jpg&directory=/images/">03:25
civprothere u go03:25
civprolol03:25
civprothen it would automatically figure out the correct ratio for the height03:26
Jeeves_Mosswill that generate the file once and store it, or generate the file everytime someone requests the pic?03:26
civproi had to build a mls system03:26
civprowhere all the real estate agents thought they had to take 10Megapixel images03:26
Jeeves_Mosslol, a MLS system?  wow, I pitty you!03:26
civprolol03:26
civproah its done now03:26
Jeeves_MossI used to support real estate people.  the ones I dealt with are babies03:27
civproso i had to figure a way of reprocessing them on the fly03:27
civpronow the page loads in 1/10th of the time03:27
civproya jeeves, they are all babies03:27
civprolol03:27
Jeeves_Mosshummm03:27
Jeeves_Mosswell, PM me, I'll pick your brain outside of the channel so we don't get yelled @03:27
civproit generates the file everytime, but its all math03:27
civproso its actually faster03:28
civprosorry man, dont really have time03:28
Jeeves_Mossok, no worries03:28
civprojust was trying to get you on the right track03:28
Jeeves_Mossthanks again though03:28
civprogot a huge server install im doing03:28
civpro120 servers clustered together03:28
civproah no problem man03:28
Jeeves_Mosslol, 120?  got to get a case of beer in there!03:28
civproheh03:30
civproya03:30
Jeeves_Mosscivpro, I've got 3 1U servers for my front end, and a mirrored 2U box for storage03:36
civproreally03:37
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chewbrancawhat's the preferred way to get spidermonkey installed on 10.04?03:55
chewbrancasurprisingly it looks like there is no longer any spidermonkey-* packages03:56
MangoMasteranyone having problems running IRC on ubuntu?04:00
chewbrancaeh? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libmozjs-dev was libmozjs-dev removed from Lucid?04:05
MTecknology!ingo gcc maverick05:19
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:19
MTecknology!info gcc maverick05:19
ubottugcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.93ubuntu2)): The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.4.4-1ubuntu2 (maverick), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB05:19
osmosiswhere can I find a list of known issues with kvm in lucid ?05:24
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CynthiaA configuration for Apache that I copied file-for-file from Ubuntu Karmic onto 10.04 LTS, with 'cp -ar /media/HARDDRIVE/etc /etc', does not honor RewriteRules in httpd.conf. All permissions are supposed to be as before; the module mod_rewrite is enabled. This thread does not help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255556  Any ideas?06:13
CynthiaAnd yes I did reload apache, and restart it, and stop/delay-start it just in case. None of these really did anything.06:14
mike234I stuck a ubuntu pen drive into my system, booted from it, and I just get a flashing cursor. Any reason for this? Is this normal? Ran out of CD-Rs. hmm. I burned ubuntu server 10.4 on here via "create startup disk" from within ubuntu06:32
twbThe reason would most likely be that you're doing it wrong06:32
twbmike234: whence came this alleged "ubuntu pen drive"?06:32
mike234twb: http://www.ubuntu.com/server/get-ubuntu/download06:33
mike234it says "create a USB drive" - step 206:33
mike234I followed those steps06:33
twbUgh06:34
twbThat page doesn't work in my browser06:34
* mike234 shrugs06:34
mike234not sure why06:34
* mike234 looks around for a CD-R06:35
mike234geez, I've spent like 3 hours trying to download ubuntu and burn06:35
twbWhat did you pick for "To create it, I will be using: (*)Windows ( )Mac ( )Ubuntu" ?06:35
mike234twb: I picked ubuntu06:35
mike234(I'm in ubuntu desktop atm)06:36
twbOh, that makes things easier06:36
mike234I found a cd-r , going to try burning it on here. I think my cd-rw was bad06:36
twbWe can try the brute-force way I normally do it06:36
mike234yeah - any more tips? or should I burn on this cd-r?06:36
mike234ah, how do you do that?06:36
twbIn here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/06:36
twbFetch, gunzip, and dd onto the disk this image: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/boot.img.gz06:37
mike234This is for a 32bit system, and it's older. Why won't the way I did it work?06:37
twbs/amd64/i386/ then06:37
twbmike234: it probably SHOULD work the way you did it, but I'm an old fogey and I like doing it the traditional way06:38
mike234Going to try burning this cd-r really quick, if that doesn't work, I'll try your way. Didn't know I had a spare *tries really quick*06:38
twbShrug06:39
Cynthia(Repeat from 35 min ago) A configuration for Apache that I copied file-for-file from Ubuntu Karmic onto 10.04 LTS, with 'cp -ar /media/HARDDRIVE/etc /etc', does not honor RewriteRules in httpd.conf. All permissions are supposed to be as before; the module mod_rewrite is enabled. This thread does not help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255556  Any ideas?06:48
twbCynthia: copying /etc from one release to another Will Not Work, and arbitrary bad things can happen.06:49
twbCynthia: put the original /etc back and do a proper upgrade06:49
Cynthiatwb: Then I should copy sections of httpd.conf and all that into 10.04's /etc?06:49
twbCynthia: I would either clone the 9.10 system's disks onto the new hardware and then do a normal upgrade, or spend AAAGES trying to understand how the original system is/should be configured, and duplicating that from scratch on the 10.04 system (but referring to the 9.10 system).06:51
twbYou could copy sections from the old httpd.conf, but you shouldn't do so without understanding what those sections do.06:51
Cynthiahttpd.conf has only RewriteRules.06:52
Cynthiaand I have a RewriteEngine On declaration in sites-available; that's pretty much it. Could it really fail that badly?06:52
Cynthiaif so, alright, I'll leave and come back should I have any more problems06:53
twbCynthia: the key point I'm making is to understand what you're copying, rather than just copying blindly and hoping it'll work06:55
twbIf you do that, and you pay attention to errors and so on, then I'm sure you'll be fine06:55
Cynthiatwb: there are no errors in /var/log/apache2/error.log, though06:55
twbI can't speak more specifically, because my apache-fu is weak06:55
twbCynthia: well, debug logs, whatever.06:56
Cynthiaonly a very undescriptive 404 error even with the debug logs enabled (and a notice about gzip saving 60 bytes)06:56
twbThe normal investigation you do when something isn't doing the right thign06:56
Cynthiathanks for your time btw twb, even if your apache-fu is weak :P06:56
hey_joejust out of curiosity, if one was to install using say, 6.10 server, is it possible to upgrade all the way up?07:12
alissadoes the ubuntu installer's boot menu send output to the serial console by default?07:14
alissaor, in other words, is there a graphics fallback for the boot menu if i try to use an ubuntu install iso on a headless server?07:15
twbIt does not use serial by default, but you can preseed that07:16
twbhey_joe: yes, but not by skipping releases07:17
alissatwb: you mean basically making a custom iso, right?  i was hoping to avoid that...or find another distro that has such an iso ready to download.07:19
twbalissa: or you can type it blind07:19
twbalissa: I normally just use a USB key and edit the extlinux.conf (syslinux.cfg) on it to add the serial options by default07:19
twbSomething like "CONSOLE 0", "SERIAL 0 115200", and in APPEND "console=ttyUSB0,115200n8"07:20
twb(Well, you probably can't type it blind if your only access is via serial.)07:21
alissatwb: yeah, i'm accessing the serial over the network.  the tool (ipmitool) tends to seg fault when it doesn't get nice output.  usb isn't really an option for me.  i think i'll have to make my own iso. although i see some threads on the forums suggesting that centos works "out of the box".  thanks for your suggestions too.07:23
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twbYou can remotely insert a CD, but you can't remotely insert a USB key?07:24
twb(for remote work, a preseeded PXE install would be the ideal way to do it.)07:25
alissawell, not exactly.  i can call some people to drop in a cd for me.  and from ipmi, i can set it to boot from cdrom (maybe i can with usb too, but i just haven't found that option yet).07:26
alissayeah, i would really like to pxe boot it.  but i am still waiting for find out if i can run an dhcp server on the local network.  it should be fine if i set it only to offer to my server's MAC (right?), but this network is not under my control.07:27
lifelessrun a single dhcp server with a mactables filter07:28
lifelessyes - agreeing with you :)07:28
lifelessuhm only downside is this: the server will broadcast07:28
lifelessyour dhcp server will have to race to win.07:28
twbapt-get install dnsmasq07:28
twblifeless: bloody u-boot's PXE client didn't do DHCP at all :-/07:29
twblifeless: I had to manually provide the NEXT-SERVER IP07:29
twbalissa: btw, is there an OS already installed on the target host?07:29
twbalissa: if so, one trick you can do is simply write the install USB key data directly to hard disk, and then reboot07:30
twbSince the installer's kernel and ramdisk are loaded into RAM, you can blow away the partition they were loaded from and install onto the same disk07:30
alissatwb: yeah, ubuntu is already installed.  things got hosed today when i tried to install 64-bit (32-bit worked fine).  for some reason, the machine isn't coming up.07:33
alissatwb: and although the installer (run over serial) put in the grub/kernel args for serial console, there is a bug in the grub args.  so there are errors and i can't get the grub menu to come up.07:34
alissaand i'm guess the kernel is getting hung on boot up.07:34
twbTypical grub crap :-/07:39
twbalissa: oh, in 10.04 they make grub default to not coming up with a menu at all07:39
twbalissa: on a VGA console, you hold Shift or Alt and it'll come up -- but obviously that can't work over serial.  Pop over to #grub and ask them07:40
alissatwb: hmm, yeah i tried shift and that didn't help.  will check on #grub.  just got notification from the network admins that they don't want me setting up a dhcp server.07:45
alissaso i guess i may end up making an iso after all.07:45
twbalissa: um, it CAN'T work07:46
twbThe shift key won't send anything over serial until you hit a key07:46
alissatwb: i see...makes sense.07:46
alissatwb: why did they get rid of the ESC key??07:46
twbTo make boot one second faster07:47
twbOf course, "you can just change it if you don't like it" -- once you can get in07:48
alissa-__-,07:48
twbI don't suppose you've tried booting a live CD?07:48
twbAlso, try scroll lock and caps lock -- they JUST MIGHT work over serial07:49
alissawell, that's my original idea.  i was hoping that the live cd will start out on serial, i feed the kernel args and then recover my existing system.07:49
alissabut i want to make sure that works before i call the staff to do it (they aren't that friendly...)07:51
alissatwb: will try those keys...07:51
twbI don't know about a particular live CD.07:51
twbIf I needed a live CD that did serial by default, I'd roll my own07:51
CynthiaYeah. I deleted /etc/apache2 and reinstalled Apache so its configuration would be rewritten, and still no dice with the mod_rewrite.08:06
CynthiaSigh :(08:06
CynthiaI'll try some other things first...08:06
_chris_hej all. im kinda new and have an ubuntu test machine in vmware. now i want to install xinetd on it. just wonder if this can cause any probs with installed packages or so ?08:09
CynthiaI see that I didn't have RewriteEngine On in my configuration. However, adding it does nothing. I tried all the possible locations for it (httpd.conf, sites-available/default, inside <Directory>, outside <Directory>, apache2.conf) and nothing happens at all.08:21
CynthiaSo now, what's wrong?08:22
CynthiaAlso worthy of note, is that 'sudo apache2 -M' from this thread <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255556>, which is supposed to give a more accurate loaded-module-list than 'apache2ctl -l' gives me 'apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}'08:23
twb_chris_: installing official packages via apt should not cause any problems08:24
twb(Other than, say installing something you didn't want.)08:24
_chris_twb: hehe ok, thx:)08:25
Daviey.08:32
CynthiaFixed my Apache problem by putting RewriteEngine On and all my RewriteRules in a file named "incl-rewriterules.conf" and using "Include /etc/apache2/incl-rewriterules.conf" in sites-available/default's VirtualHost section, outside of all directories. It doesn't work otherwise.09:33
CynthiaThanks for your time, even if I ended up finding out a solution on my own ^_^09:34
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kaushalhi12:15
Arknshi all. how could I create a account with the pattern <first_name>.<last_name> because on my lan's work this is how is my login... and on installation of ubuntu server they not allowed to create a account like this...12:16
kaushalcan some one please guide me my post regarding disk usage https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2010-June/004362.html12:18
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nimrod10is there a button one can push to stop displaying the splash screen in ubuntu server 10.04 ?12:27
nimrod10I think  the splash screen makes sense for the desktops but not for the servers, where you actually want to be able to see what is going on under the hood :)12:28
guntbertnimrod10: in the grub menu edit the boot line and replace quiet with noquiet (just for  a test)12:37
kaushalhi12:40
kaushalwhat does du -hs /* /.[^.]* mean12:40
kaushalI mean /.[^.]*12:40
guntbertone dot followed by anything except another dot12:41
kaushalwhat does that mean12:41
kaushalI have still not understood12:42
guntbertkaushal: it lists/counts files/directories with names like .ssh .mc     but not .. (which stands for the parent directory12:43
nimrod10guntbert, I mean when it boots, in the other ubuntu versions one could hit the esc key to edit the grub line manually but it doesn't work in ubuntu 10.0412:50
nimrod10I have a server that frezeeses at the splash screen and it would really be useful to see what is happening under that splash screen12:51
alarmschabennimrod10: try removing the "quiet" boot option12:51
zulmorning12:51
nimrod10alarmschaben, I'll have to boot it in another manner as it freezes at the splash screen12:52
guntbertnimrod10: are you talking about the installer CD?12:52
alarmschabennimrod10: I see. Hmm.. any GRUB 2 shamans here? :-)12:53
nimrod10no , ubuntu is already installed on the server and when I boot it just freezes at the splash screen. In older ubuntu version one could hit esc to edit manually the grub lines12:54
pmatulisnimrod10: SHIFT12:54
nimrod10pmatulis, is i press SHIFT i get the grub menu ?12:55
guntbertnimrod10: yes, sorry I forgot that because thats always the first thing I change in my systems, (sometimes only the left <shift> works12:57
nimrod10thanks guntbert , pmatulis I'll go and try it now12:57
guntbertnimrod10: and for the future that menu is called "grub menu" - that makes asking a little easier :-)12:58
guntbertnimrod10: Good luck :-)12:58
kaushalchecking in again for the query ?12:58
kaushalcan some one please guide me my post regarding disk usage https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2010-June/004362.html12:59
pmatuliskaushal: sparse files may be involved13:06
kaushalpmatulis: how can i look for it13:09
pmatuliskaushal: http://tinyurl.com/2dtm3ta13:10
trapmax=)13:11
nimrod10guntbert, I saw that sometimes the shift doesn't work13:23
nimrod10it worked for me 1 out of 4 times :(13:23
pmatulisnimrod10: keep it pressed down (instead of multiple taps)13:24
zulttx: updted the spec13:33
ttxzul: ack13:36
sommermorning all :-)13:38
nimrod10pmatulis, thanks I'll try right after I've had some lunch13:38
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ccheneyttx, see your email for a message i sent you13:49
ttxccheney: ack13:50
ccheneyttx: thanks13:50
ccheneyttx, hope to see you guys tomorrow, but will let you know how things go13:51
ttxok13:51
ntmartinHi, we're having an issue with Apache2 on 10.04 where it seems that envvars is being overriden by ENV in /etc/init.d/apache214:00
ntmartinIs there a way to ensure that envvars and PassEnv work as expected without hacking /etc/init.d/apache2 ?14:01
ntmartinThanks14:01
ntmartinah forget it, looks like we sorted that :)14:02
zulttx: aieeee stop spamming me14:02
ttxzul: I can generate notifications faster than you can move my emails to the trashcan14:06
uvirtbotNew bug: #599790 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "Error message flood when enabling events in Ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59979014:16
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_chris_how can i do a portscan on my machine to see what ports are listening ?14:22
hito_jpIf you allow *non-real* portscaning, exec "sudo lsof -i".14:24
_chris_okay thanks14:25
eagles0513875hey guys how can i find the url to an iso image of ubuntu server so i can download it via wget14:30
jpdseagles0513875: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ubuntu-10.04-server-amd64.iso14:31
eagles0513875thank you :)14:31
eagles0513875thats better14:32
eagles0513875how come the new ubuntu site doesnt ask you to choose a mirror any more14:32
jpdsBecause it's got smarter and uses GeoIP.14:32
eagles0513875no wonder i getting the crappy download speeds cuz it using the local mirror14:32
eagles0513875ahhhhhhhh14:32
eagles0513875ty btw jpds :)14:34
jpdsNo problem.14:34
kirklandhallyn: howdy ...  so seabios ...14:41
kirklandhallyn: okay, so you're saying it doesn't have a bzr branch yet14:41
SpamapS"Oracle’s “run Java within the database” is an example of totally retarded functionality whose main job is to ruin your life" -- Monty Taylor, Velocity 201014:41
kirklandhallyn: you can poke Jamesw to get one created14:41
kirklandhallyn: but in the meantime, you'll need to create a debdiff the old fashion way... here's how:14:41
kirklandhallyn: start here: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seabios14:42
kirklandhallyn: and then:  dget https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/seabios_0.5.1-0ubuntu2.dsc14:42
kirklandhallyn: dget is a special wrapper around wget14:42
kirklandhallyn: and a *dsc file is a source package14:42
kirklandhallyn: dget grabs everything associated with that source package14:42
kirklandhallyn: if you were just making a minor change to the package, you'd go in and do your work (like adding something to debian/patches)14:43
kirklandhallyn: and then increment the version and document your changes with "dch -i"14:43
kirklandhallyn: and then build a new source package with debuild -S14:43
kirklandhallyn: and then run debdiff against the two .dsc's to generate a debdiff (which is just a patch)14:44
kirklandhallyn: you could then attach that patch somewhere to show someone, and as them to sponsor it14:44
hallynjust email them?14:44
hallynno launchpad way?14:44
kirklandhallyn: attach to a launchpad bug14:44
kirklandhallyn: that's what i like, because it gives me authentication14:45
hallynok14:45
kirklandhallyn: ie, i know it's *you* who provided that patch14:45
kirklandhallyn: okay, but for a merge, the debdiff is often *huge*14:45
kirklandhallyn: so i did those a little different when i needed sponsoring14:45
kaushalhi14:46
kaushaldoes jconsole http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/J2SE/jconsole.html cause additional overheads on a server ?14:46
kirklandhallyn: first i check debian14:46
kirklandhallyn: http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/seabios.html14:46
kirklandhallyn: unfortunately, no seabios 0.6 there :-(14:46
kirklandhallyn: so we'll have to merge directly from upstream (or wait on debian)14:46
kirklandhallyn: to merge directly from upstream, i do the dget of maverick's seabios .dsc14:47
kirklandhallyn: then i wget the released seabios tar.gz14:47
hallyn(suppose it might be worth asking the debian maintainer if he was going to grab what's needed for virtio boot)14:47
eagles0513875!enter | kirkland14:47
ubottukirkland: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!14:47
kirklandhallyn: it's worth asking14:48
kirklandhallyn: then he does the hard work14:48
hallyn\0/14:48
kirkland;-)14:48
hallynbut meanwhile...14:48
hallyni've got your package, the 0.6.0.tar.gz, and the git tree, and the list of patches to cherry-pick...14:49
hallyni can build myself a package,14:49
kirklandhallyn: yeah, just build yourself a 0.6.0 package14:49
hallynjsut not sure what to do with it to get it sponsored14:49
kirklandhallyn: build a source package, and then rsync -a the entire tree to people.canonical.com (or somewhere)14:50
kirklandhallyn: i'll want to review the whole tree14:50
hallynheh, cool, that's simple enough14:50
kirklandhallyn: when i'm happy with it, i'll dput your .changes file14:50
kirklandhallyn: yup ;-)14:50
hallynok, thanks!  lemme start by talking to anthony though and make sure there ar eno gotchas14:50
kirklandhallyn: bzr branch lp:~kirkland/+junk/bin14:50
kirklandhallyn: see the "pcc" script, it puts stuff to people.canonical.com/~kirkland14:51
kirklandhallyn: i use it all the time, when pastebin just won't cut it ;-)14:51
smoserhallyn, so you think the seabios fixes my -kernel multiboot.img bug ?14:52
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smoserwe need pastebinit to imporove to do encoding so you can put binary files in it :)14:52
smoserand a 'unpastebinit' that does the reverse14:52
hallynsmoser: yes it fixed it for me14:55
smoserwhoohoo14:55
hallynkirkland: w00t - lazyness FTW  :)14:56
hallynsmoser: you can try out http://people.canonical.com/~serge/bios.bin14:57
smoserhallyn, so get your other debs from yesterday and that bios.bin ?14:57
hallynsmoser: (along with qemu-kvm package out of ppa:serge-hallyn/virt)14:57
smoserah. good.14:57
hallynsmoser: that's probably not exactly the bios that would end up in the new seabios package, so once i scrounge that together another test will be in order :(14:58
smoserhallyn, thats fine.15:01
smoserfyi, your qemu package is out of date15:01
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hallynhuh15:02
hallynthe maverick one?15:02
hallynsmoser: out of date wrt what?15:02
smoserwith respect to the archive15:03
smoserhttp://pastebin.com/Kdt6Tfnq15:04
smoserok. someone help. there is apt syntax for saying "i want qemu-kvm of *this* version" right ?15:04
smoseri tried '-t 0.12.4+noroms-0ubuntu1' but that didn't seem to have affect15:05
hallynsmoser: that's not the right package15:06
hallyncan you apt-get update?15:06
hallynit should be qemu-kvm - 0.12.4+noroms-0ubuntu5~debug15:06
hallynfeh lemme psot the (*$&(*& debs15:06
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hallynsmoser: they're slowly uploading to http://people.canonical.com/~serge/kvm-multiboot-debs/15:07
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Davieyhggdh: Hey, do you want a new package for the new bzr revision?15:09
Davieyhggdh: BTW, Chris Grze pushed directly to the master 1.6.2 branch - not his personal one15:09
hggdhDaviey: ah... this is why... yes, please, if you do not mind15:10
Davieyhggdh: ok15:10
smoserhallyn, so your archive just isn't updated ? oh.. i see you're still building.15:11
smoseryeah.15:11
hallynoh is it???15:11
smoseri'll pull from pelp.e15:11
smoserhttps://launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/+archive/virt/+packages15:11
hallynwell my rsync seems to be hung15:11
smoser(see "Build Status"15:11
hallyni thought inthe past things didn't show up until they were built15:11
smoseri dont know.15:12
hallynok nm just use the .deb from yesterday :)15:12
hallyni'll ping when rsync is done15:12
* hallyn suspects time-warner is throttling him out of spite15:12
kaushaldoes jconsole http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/J2SE/jconsole.html cause additional overheads on a server ?15:15
kaushalor are there any lightweight applications15:15
hallynsmoser: rsync is done fwiw15:18
smoserok.15:19
smoserhallyn, http://people.canonical.com/~serge/kvm-multiboot-debs/15:20
smoser?15:20
hallynsmoser: oh, kirkland's script uses rsync, and i included the trailing /15:21
hallynyou're not copying now are you?15:22
hallynsmoser: now that dir exists15:22
hallyn(they were just in the parent dir, for the reason cited above)15:22
qwerthello is this ubuntu-server room?15:23
qwerti am looking for help with respect to setting LDAP on ubuntu 10.0415:24
qwert?15:24
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eagles0513875!ldap | qwert15:29
ubottuqwert: LDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information, installation instructions and getting clients to authenticate via LDAP see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer15:29
qwertubottu: is not that the old LDAP setup15:30
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:30
coonlokhthi all15:30
coonlokhtseems that acl on samba has some troubles15:31
qwertyes eagles15:31
coonlokhtdo you experience problems with it ?15:31
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Davieyhggdh: Pushed to PPA, if you have your machine ready - it should be built and published in ~20 mins.15:35
Davieyhggdh: 1.6.2-0ubuntu30.3.615:35
hggdhDaviey: my machine is always reay ;-)15:36
hggdhready even15:36
Davieyhggdh: \o/15:41
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coonlokhtis samba .deb package compile with acls support ?15:59
hallynsmoser: http://people.canonical.com/~serge/seabios_0.6.0-0ubuntu1_all.deb should be exactly, to-the-patch, the same seabios as in qemu16:02
hallynsmoser: can you give that one a try?16:02
hallynsmoser: how did the other work for you?16:02
smoserhadn't gotten there yet16:02
smoserso i just got your debs16:02
smoserinstalled qemu and qemu-common16:03
hallyncool, thx16:03
smoserhallyn, ping16:28
hallyn.16:29
hallynsmoser: .16:30
smoserhallyn, pm16:30
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azlonhello16:35
azlonwhen i nmap my ip address it says my port 80 is closed. i have apache installed, how can i open port 80?16:35
smoseranyone able to help16:36
smoserhttp://uec-images.ubuntu.com/maverick/20100629.1/log.stdout.stderr16:36
smoseruec image build dies with: pycentral pkgremove: package python-yaml is not installed16:36
zulcaught in a transition maybe?16:39
smoserzul, transition of what do you think?16:41
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baddassmuthaHello, does anyone have experience with phpScheduleIt application?17:12
SpamapSbaddassmutha: we might not have experience with that, but we can probably answer questions about specific error messages from PHP/apache/etc17:13
baddassmuthaok, well, at work im testing phpScheduleIt on a fresh install of Ubuntu Server 10.04, i have working WordPress, Openfire etc and have the server along with this Ubuntu Desktop laptop joined and authenticating against the domain17:14
baddassmuthaproblem is, when setting up the config file in phpScheduleIt with the LDAP server details, it doesnt work17:14
baddassmuthai get a blank page reply17:15
baddassmuthaphpSceduleIt works on its own and i can setup individual users when logging into it, but when i change to to say authenticate usng LDAP it fails17:16
kaushalhi17:17
kaushalDoes jconsole http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/J2SE/jconsole.html cause additional overheads on a server?17:17
baddassmuthai need to leave soon, so one last question, anyone have any joy backup up a linux ubuntu server 10.04 with symantec backup exec? from what i can see, they only support redhat and suse enterprise distros. (boo).17:20
kaushalis there a java ubuntu channel ?17:20
zulsmoser: newer version of python or python-central?17:23
ChmEarlusing debootstrap, then installing ubuntu_minimal, there is no admin group when I chroot. Do I need to add a package or issue a cmd?17:24
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hallynkirkland: can you take a look at http://people.canonical.com/~serge/seabios-0.6.0ubuntu1 ?17:41
smoserttx, could you pleaes try to find someone to chase the UEC image build failure at http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/maverick/20100629.1/log.stdout.stderr18:13
smoserpycentral pkgremove: package python-yaml is not installed18:13
smoserdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python-yaml_3.09-3_i386.deb (--unpack):18:13
smoser subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 118:13
smoserErrors were encountered while processing:18:13
smoser /var/cache/apt/archives/python-yaml_3.09-3_i386.deb18:13
smoserE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)18:13
smoserScottK, ^^18:15
smoserthis was the first build that pulled in _3.09-3 . yesterday's had 3.09-2build118:16
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tietokonesudo lshw -C network. Gives no information, what is wrong?18:35
hucklehi, i'm setting up apache2 at a university and i can access the site locally with it's domain name but not over the internet; could anyone tell me where my likely configuration needs are?18:36
SpamapStietokone: maybe you don't have any network hardware detected?18:36
tietokoneBut i did set driver from Windows Wireless Drivers18:38
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rbergersmoser How do I get the hosts.tmpl to be loaded? I didn't see it being ever rendered in the cloud-init code. I think that having cloud-init set the FQDN in /etc/hosts based on the local-hostname meta-data would fix my problem18:41
SpamapStietokone: maybe it didn't work ... I've never tried adding wireless drivers to a server, but you might try looking in 'dmesg'18:41
rbergerEucalyptus is not doing the right thing with DNS PTR and they don't have a mechanism to set domain-search in their dhcpd.conf on the CLC18:41
SpamapStietokone: as in, run 'dmesg | more'18:41
SpamapSrberger: I believe this is a common issue and some people are working on it.18:42
rbergerSpammpS Which problem is common the DNS stuff or the inability to load the hosts.tmp18:48
Davieyhggdh: Hey.. did you have a chance to try that latest build?18:57
SpamapSrberger: the problem with hosts18:57
hggdhDaviey: running right now, so far, so good18:57
Davieyhggdh: Awesome!  That is really good news.  If you can report full success as soon as it's finished, we'll get it SRU'd into Lucid. \o/18:58
guhcamposWhat's the recommended way to see / edit startup script configuration in ubuntu? Something like chkconfig on RedHat/Centos19:02
guhcamposI mean: enable, disable, change runlevel of the scripts19:02
tietokoneSpamapsS: What to look from dmesg | more?19:04
hggdhDaviey: one can hope ;-)19:04
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tietokonesudo ndiswrapper -l19:21
tietokoneWARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper, it will be ignored in a future release.19:21
tietokonesis163u : driver installed19:21
tietokonedevice (0BF8:100F) present19:21
tietokonetells that driver should be running correctly?19:21
tietokonebut still i get a message:19:22
tietokonesudo iwconfig19:22
tietokonelo        no wireless extensions.19:22
tietokoneeth0      no wireless extensions.19:22
tietokoneppp0      no wireless extensions.19:22
zuljcastro: ping20:03
jcastrozul: pong20:06
zuljcastro: im slowly converting/reactivating server daily builds should i add them to the list?20:07
jcastrozul: yea, as you add them please!20:07
jcastrozul: oh hey, I would like feedback on this naming convention thing20:07
jcastrohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyBuilds/NamingConvention20:08
jcastroin hindsight I should have talked to you first, heh20:08
zuljcastro: yeah i saw that, that looks fine to me20:23
jcastrojrock20:24
hggdhDaviey, ttx, kirkland: are we going to put Dave's package (for bug 566792) in the SRU queue for Lucid soon? I need to know so that we can prepare for A220:31
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 566792 in eucalyptus "metadata service returns empty data with 200 OK" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56679220:32
ttxhggdh: A2 will come first20:35
hallynso, in bug 595388 libvirt autostarts a vm whose disk is on aoe, and isn't ready for some time after boot.  he has a workaround (upstart script).  do i now mark that as wontfix?20:36
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 595388 in libvirt "starting kvm guests with libvirt on virthost startup doesn't wait till all dependencies are available" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59538820:36
smoserScottK, did you seem my issues above ?20:36
smoserzul, can you accept bug 599921 for maverick nomination20:45
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 599921 in pyyaml "python-yaml 3.09-3 is not installable" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59992120:45
smoserand ScottK that is the bug I've opened on python-yaml.  (Sorry to pester you I'll be in later to look more into it).20:45
zulsure but what do i get out of it/20:45
smoseri'll buy you a czech donut20:46
zulsounds good to me20:46
coder7_ware there configuration tools for managing upstart jobs, or must it be done by directly editing /etc/init/* files?20:49
valko_1975hi20:55
valko_1975i have problems20:55
valko_1975witth ubuntu server raid 1 setting up20:55
valko_1975mother board is ga-p55m-ud220:56
BluesKajhiyas , I'm thinking of setting up a server for hosting files for our family , it will be a headless setup , which will need remote access permissions for family members . Can you guys point me to a site that might fit those needs.20:56
BluesKajthinking of using ssh client/server for linux boxes , any suggestions for windows pcs to access remotely ?20:58
BluesKajjust installed lucid server , so i'm ready for info ;)21:04
BluesKajssh'd into it from laptop21:05
BluesKajoh well, guess the silence means I'm on my own21:07
valko_1975need some help21:09
ChmEarlBluesKaj, use putty on Win21:14
BluesKajChmEarl, putty , yeah , not real impressed with it so far21:15
ChmEarlBluesKaj, cygwin is more cmdline oriented and integrates better21:16
kirklandhggdh: if you're happy with the ppa version, then yes, let's get it on the SRU track21:19
RoAkSoAxzul: is there a wikipage that guides for the convertion from init scripts to upstart?21:19
hggdhkirkland: I am as happy as possible. There may still be a race lurking somewhere, but we have to move21:24
hggdhafter all, it is quite difficult to guarantee a race is gone21:24
kirklandhggdh: ack;  let's get this into lucid-proposed21:32
kirklandhggdh: i'm happy if you're happy ;-)21:33
kirklandhggdh: you da man21:33
hggdh:-)21:33
kabal`courtI need help setting the date on ubuntu server 8.4 >> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/vMz5Jfyv21:33
hggdhkabal`court: sudo date -s <datestring>21:42
kabal`courtdoesnt work..21:43
BluesKajChmEarl, is cygwin as difficult to setup as the rumours I've heard about it ?21:43
kirklandhallyn: hey, sorry for the delay21:43
kirklandhallyn: i can review seabios now21:43
kirklandhallyn: however, i'll need to hold off on sponsoring this until after the Alpha2 freeze lifts:21:45
kirklandhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2010-June/000727.html21:45
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hallynkirkland: cool, thanks21:55
hallynwho knows you might have to hold off on sponsoring until i fix all the things i broke :)21:55
luddite1811I have a esxi vm that had an 8 gb LVM setup, I increased and inflated the virtual disk size through vsphere, when I go to run the sudo lvextend -L60G /dev/mapper/homevol command it states there aren't enough extents?22:00
luddite1811how do I get the ubuntu server to pickup that I have increased the virtual hard disk?22:00
guntbertluddite1811: why didn't you just add another virtula disk and then add anotehr PV to your VG?22:02
guntbert*virtual22:03
luddite1811just trying to have the one hard disk22:03
guntbertluddite1811:22:03
guntbertsorry, I am ready for bed, too many erros on the keyboard :-)22:04
luddite1811I have already allocated all of the space and am just trying to figure out why it isn't showing up.22:04
luddite1811lol :) thanks for the help22:04
kirklandhallyn: when uploading the package for review, make sure you upload your signed source package (debuild -S)22:10
kirklandhallyn: that's what I need to sponsor ;-)22:11
kirklandhallyn: also, when reviewing an upload I usually run "lintian -I *deb *dsc"22:12
kirklandhallyn: it's not your fault, but I do see one lintian error in this package, which is easy to solve22:12
kirklandE: seabios: debian-changelog-file-missing22:12
kirklandhallyn: just need to add dh_installchangelogs to the debian/rules file22:12
kirkland(that was my fault in the initial packaging actually)22:12
kirklandhallyn: otherwise, package looks good22:14
kirklandhallyn: i'll upload on Thursday, after the freeze lifts22:15
coder7_weh, BluesKaj left, but the recommendation should have been to use the pre-packages openssh for windows that uses cygwin22:22
coder7_wit takes about 15 seconds to install, and about 45 seconds to configure22:22
coder7_w*pre-packaged22:23
hallynkirkland: ok - i thought you  were sayinh you just wanted the original source dir.  have you put the dh_installchangelogs in debian/rules in your copy, or should i do that?22:46
kirklandhallyn: go for it ;-)22:51
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hallynkirkland: new version uploaded.  thanks for the review!23:08
kirklandhallyn: sure thing, you're old hat at this packaging thing now ;-)23:08
hallyndebian/rules is still black magic to me23:10
hallynbut, time for a vicious game of 'at full throttle', biab23:10
chilicui1hi there, a fast question, how can I force a virtual interface to use a different dns?, can I added to /etc/network/interfaces?23:19
Sorrellanyone here use ispconfig?23:24
SorrellJust wondering what people thought of it.23:24
SorrellIs it worth installing?23:24
osmosisCan anyone tell my why on lucid, kvm guest instances will sometimes become unresponsive and go to 99% cpu usage???23:56
hallynosmosis: does it happen after awhile (say a few days), and pretty predictably?23:57
hallynthere are two possiblities:23:57
hallyn1. there is a memory leak,23:57
hallynand (2) the SDL graphics through framebuffer (i believe) can cause a problem23:57
hallynI've only seen the graphics one so far with the livecd, not after installing - but i assume that's just to do with the kernel23:58

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