[00:01] <SpamapS> mathiaz: right but can we do that on launchpad?
[00:03] <mathiaz> SpamapS: I think so
[00:04] <SpamapS> mathiaz: otherwise, I like it a lot.. am using it right now to build python-libgearman. :)
[02:57] <civpro> im wanting to cluster 120 dedicated server together to start with
[02:57] <civpro> more will be added laster
[02:57] <civpro> later*
[02:57] <civpro> any recommendation on software to manage this?
[03:01] <lifeless> puppet/chef is good
[03:01] <lifeless> Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud is nice too
[03:02] <civpro> cool
[03:03] <civpro> lifeless, can it handle that many servers?
[03:04] <lifeless> sure
[03:05] <civpro> ok any with a web interface for management?
[03:05] <civpro> or is that going to far :)
[03:06] <civpro> also what is the best free one lifeless
[03:06] <civpro> sorry for all the questions, just trying to make a decision here
[03:06] <civpro> links are good also if you have them m8
[03:07] <lifeless> http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/private
[03:07] <civpro> ty
[03:08] <civpro> perfect :)
[03:08] <civpro> 1 last question, if u already have ubuntu installed can you setup cloud afterwards or does it have to be during initial setup?
[03:09] <civpro> got to do this remotely
[03:09] <civpro> through a net install
[03:12] <lifeless> can do it later yes
[03:12] <civpro> sweet
[03:12] <lifeless> there are some quirks on networking -see help.ubuntu.com/UEC (I think that that is right) for more info
[03:13] <civpro> bad link
[03:13] <civpro> found it
[03:16] <Jeeves_Moss> how can I set wget to "spider" a website, and d-load only the files from a specific directory?
[03:17] <civpro> dont know how to with wget but i do with php
[03:17] <civpro> sorry
[03:18] <Jeeves_Moss> civpro, lol, I need to run it as cron
[03:18] <civpro> u can run php as a cron
[03:18] <civpro> i do it all the time
[03:19] <Jeeves_Moss> then, eventually, I need to write a PHP script that allows people to rate pictures (more like classify them), then when they choose to view pictures by class, the webpage will read the database and show the top pics based on votes, etc for the pics
[03:19] <civpro> ya easy enough
[03:19] <civpro> sounds like mysql/php would be a good solution for that
[03:20] <civpro> k so make a database
[03:20] <civpro> id | name | link
[03:20] <Jeeves_Moss> civpro,  lol, for you!!  And yes, the web pages will be PHP/MySQL baised. I have verry LITTLE exp with both, so, I'll have to learn.
[03:20] <civpro> then another table to tie in the picture id to the rating
[03:20] <Jeeves_Moss> I'm thinking id | thumb nail location | real file location, etc
[03:21] <civpro> ya man, but u can do soooooo much with php m8
[03:21] <pmatulis> Jeeves_Moss: re your original question, investigate lftp
[03:21] <civpro> ya either way, u get the idea
[03:21] <Jeeves_Moss> civpro, yep
[03:22] <civpro> ill trade u project, lol
[03:22] <Jeeves_Moss> civpro, as I said, for me, it's the cron job that'll read the file, d-load it, then imput it into the database, and make the thumbnail
[03:22] <civpro> jeeves this might help
[03:22] <civpro> scandir = makes an array
[03:22] <civpro> and are u familiar with regex expressions?
[03:22] <civpro> preg_match
[03:23] <civpro> is another u will need
[03:23] <civpro> and file_get_contents
[03:23] <Jeeves_Moss> civpro, well, the way I thought it'd work is to scrape the pics, d-load them, make the thumbs, then enter the new files into the database
[03:23] <civpro> and a few more :P
[03:23] <civpro> well can i suggest something?
[03:23] <Jeeves_Moss> sure
[03:23] <civpro> why instead of making seperate thumbnails
[03:24] <Jeeves_Moss> a person dosn't grow unless they learn
[03:24] <civpro> use gdimage to reprocess the images on the fly
[03:24] <Jeeves_Moss> I was thinking the one time CPU hit ot make the thumbnails would be better than a few thousand hits
[03:24] <civpro> that way 1 file just reprocessed to correct ratio
[03:24] <civpro> its not hitting it a thousand times
[03:24] <civpro> u would have something like this
[03:25] <civpro> <img src="processimage.php?width=20px&file=mypic.jpg&directory=/images/
[03:25] <civpro> oops
[03:25] <civpro> <img src="processimage.php?width=20px&file=mypic.jpg&directory=/images/">
[03:25] <civpro> there u go
[03:25] <civpro> lol
[03:26] <civpro> then it would automatically figure out the correct ratio for the height
[03:26] <Jeeves_Moss> will that generate the file once and store it, or generate the file everytime someone requests the pic?
[03:26] <civpro> i had to build a mls system
[03:26] <civpro> where all the real estate agents thought they had to take 10Megapixel images
[03:26] <Jeeves_Moss> lol, a MLS system?  wow, I pitty you!
[03:26] <civpro> lol
[03:26] <civpro> ah its done now
[03:27] <Jeeves_Moss> I used to support real estate people.  the ones I dealt with are babies
[03:27] <civpro> so i had to figure a way of reprocessing them on the fly
[03:27] <civpro> now the page loads in 1/10th of the time
[03:27] <civpro> ya jeeves, they are all babies
[03:27] <civpro> lol
[03:27] <Jeeves_Moss> hummm
[03:27] <Jeeves_Moss> well, PM me, I'll pick your brain outside of the channel so we don't get yelled @
[03:27] <civpro> it generates the file everytime, but its all math
[03:28] <civpro> so its actually faster
[03:28] <civpro> sorry man, dont really have time
[03:28] <Jeeves_Moss> ok, no worries
[03:28] <civpro> just was trying to get you on the right track
[03:28] <Jeeves_Moss> thanks again though
[03:28] <civpro> got a huge server install im doing
[03:28] <civpro> 120 servers clustered together
[03:28] <civpro> ah no problem man
[03:28] <Jeeves_Moss> lol, 120?  got to get a case of beer in there!
[03:30] <civpro> heh
[03:30] <civpro> ya
[03:36] <Jeeves_Moss> civpro, I've got 3 1U servers for my front end, and a mirrored 2U box for storage
[03:37] <civpro> really
[03:55] <chewbranca> what's the preferred way to get spidermonkey installed on 10.04?
[03:56] <chewbranca> surprisingly it looks like there is no longer any spidermonkey-* packages
[04:00] <MangoMaster> anyone having problems running IRC on ubuntu?
[04:05] <chewbranca> eh? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libmozjs-dev was libmozjs-dev removed from Lucid?
[05:19] <MTecknology> !ingo gcc maverick
[05:19] <MTecknology> !info gcc maverick
[05:24] <osmosis> where can I find a list of known issues with kvm in lucid ?
[06:13] <Cynthia> A configuration for Apache that I copied file-for-file from Ubuntu Karmic onto 10.04 LTS, with 'cp -ar /media/HARDDRIVE/etc /etc', does not honor RewriteRules in httpd.conf. All permissions are supposed to be as before; the module mod_rewrite is enabled. This thread does not help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255556  Any ideas?
[06:14] <Cynthia> And yes I did reload apache, and restart it, and stop/delay-start it just in case. None of these really did anything.
[06:32] <mike234> I stuck a ubuntu pen drive into my system, booted from it, and I just get a flashing cursor. Any reason for this? Is this normal? Ran out of CD-Rs. hmm. I burned ubuntu server 10.4 on here via "create startup disk" from within ubuntu
[06:32] <twb> The reason would most likely be that you're doing it wrong
[06:32] <twb> mike234: whence came this alleged "ubuntu pen drive"?
[06:33] <mike234> twb: http://www.ubuntu.com/server/get-ubuntu/download
[06:33] <mike234> it says "create a USB drive" - step 2
[06:33] <mike234> I followed those steps
[06:34] <twb> Ugh
[06:34] <twb> That page doesn't work in my browser
[06:34]  * mike234 shrugs
[06:34] <mike234> not sure why
[06:35]  * mike234 looks around for a CD-R
[06:35] <mike234> geez, I've spent like 3 hours trying to download ubuntu and burn
[06:35] <twb> What did you pick for "To create it, I will be using: (*)Windows ( )Mac ( )Ubuntu" ?
[06:35] <mike234> twb: I picked ubuntu
[06:36] <mike234> (I'm in ubuntu desktop atm)
[06:36] <twb> Oh, that makes things easier
[06:36] <mike234> I found a cd-r , going to try burning it on here. I think my cd-rw was bad
[06:36] <twb> We can try the brute-force way I normally do it
[06:36] <mike234> yeah - any more tips? or should I burn on this cd-r?
[06:36] <mike234> ah, how do you do that?
[06:36] <twb> In here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/
[06:37] <twb> Fetch, gunzip, and dd onto the disk this image: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/boot.img.gz
[06:37] <mike234> This is for a 32bit system, and it's older. Why won't the way I did it work?
[06:37] <twb> s/amd64/i386/ then
[06:38] <twb> mike234: it probably SHOULD work the way you did it, but I'm an old fogey and I like doing it the traditional way
[06:38] <mike234> Going to try burning this cd-r really quick, if that doesn't work, I'll try your way. Didn't know I had a spare *tries really quick*
[06:39] <twb> Shrug
[06:48] <Cynthia> (Repeat from 35 min ago) A configuration for Apache that I copied file-for-file from Ubuntu Karmic onto 10.04 LTS, with 'cp -ar /media/HARDDRIVE/etc /etc', does not honor RewriteRules in httpd.conf. All permissions are supposed to be as before; the module mod_rewrite is enabled. This thread does not help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255556  Any ideas?
[06:49] <twb> Cynthia: copying /etc from one release to another Will Not Work, and arbitrary bad things can happen.
[06:49] <twb> Cynthia: put the original /etc back and do a proper upgrade
[06:49] <Cynthia> twb: Then I should copy sections of httpd.conf and all that into 10.04's /etc?
[06:51] <twb> Cynthia: I would either clone the 9.10 system's disks onto the new hardware and then do a normal upgrade, or spend AAAGES trying to understand how the original system is/should be configured, and duplicating that from scratch on the 10.04 system (but referring to the 9.10 system).
[06:51] <twb> You could copy sections from the old httpd.conf, but you shouldn't do so without understanding what those sections do.
[06:52] <Cynthia> httpd.conf has only RewriteRules.
[06:52] <Cynthia> and I have a RewriteEngine On declaration in sites-available; that's pretty much it. Could it really fail that badly?
[06:53] <Cynthia> if so, alright, I'll leave and come back should I have any more problems
[06:55] <twb> Cynthia: the key point I'm making is to understand what you're copying, rather than just copying blindly and hoping it'll work
[06:55] <twb> If you do that, and you pay attention to errors and so on, then I'm sure you'll be fine
[06:55] <Cynthia> twb: there are no errors in /var/log/apache2/error.log, though
[06:55] <twb> I can't speak more specifically, because my apache-fu is weak
[06:56] <twb> Cynthia: well, debug logs, whatever.
[06:56] <Cynthia> only a very undescriptive 404 error even with the debug logs enabled (and a notice about gzip saving 60 bytes)
[06:56] <twb> The normal investigation you do when something isn't doing the right thign
[06:56] <Cynthia> thanks for your time btw twb, even if your apache-fu is weak :P
[07:12] <hey_joe> just out of curiosity, if one was to install using say, 6.10 server, is it possible to upgrade all the way up?
[07:14] <alissa> does the ubuntu installer's boot menu send output to the serial console by default?
[07:15] <alissa> or, in other words, is there a graphics fallback for the boot menu if i try to use an ubuntu install iso on a headless server?
[07:16] <twb> It does not use serial by default, but you can preseed that
[07:17] <twb> hey_joe: yes, but not by skipping releases
[07:19] <alissa> twb: you mean basically making a custom iso, right?  i was hoping to avoid that...or find another distro that has such an iso ready to download.
[07:19] <twb> alissa: or you can type it blind
[07:19] <twb> alissa: I normally just use a USB key and edit the extlinux.conf (syslinux.cfg) on it to add the serial options by default
[07:20] <twb> Something like "CONSOLE 0", "SERIAL 0 115200", and in APPEND "console=ttyUSB0,115200n8"
[07:21] <twb> (Well, you probably can't type it blind if your only access is via serial.)
[07:23] <alissa> twb: yeah, i'm accessing the serial over the network.  the tool (ipmitool) tends to seg fault when it doesn't get nice output.  usb isn't really an option for me.  i think i'll have to make my own iso. although i see some threads on the forums suggesting that centos works "out of the box".  thanks for your suggestions too.
[07:24] <twb> You can remotely insert a CD, but you can't remotely insert a USB key?
[07:25] <twb> (for remote work, a preseeded PXE install would be the ideal way to do it.)
[07:26] <alissa> well, not exactly.  i can call some people to drop in a cd for me.  and from ipmi, i can set it to boot from cdrom (maybe i can with usb too, but i just haven't found that option yet).
[07:27] <alissa> yeah, i would really like to pxe boot it.  but i am still waiting for find out if i can run an dhcp server on the local network.  it should be fine if i set it only to offer to my server's MAC (right?), but this network is not under my control.
[07:28] <lifeless> run a single dhcp server with a mactables filter
[07:28] <lifeless> yes - agreeing with you :)
[07:28] <lifeless> uhm only downside is this: the server will broadcast
[07:28] <lifeless> your dhcp server will have to race to win.
[07:28] <twb> apt-get install dnsmasq
[07:29] <twb> lifeless: bloody u-boot's PXE client didn't do DHCP at all :-/
[07:29] <twb> lifeless: I had to manually provide the NEXT-SERVER IP
[07:29] <twb> alissa: btw, is there an OS already installed on the target host?
[07:30] <twb> alissa: if so, one trick you can do is simply write the install USB key data directly to hard disk, and then reboot
[07:30] <twb> Since the installer's kernel and ramdisk are loaded into RAM, you can blow away the partition they were loaded from and install onto the same disk
[07:33] <alissa> twb: yeah, ubuntu is already installed.  things got hosed today when i tried to install 64-bit (32-bit worked fine).  for some reason, the machine isn't coming up.
[07:34] <alissa> twb: and although the installer (run over serial) put in the grub/kernel args for serial console, there is a bug in the grub args.  so there are errors and i can't get the grub menu to come up.
[07:34] <alissa> and i'm guess the kernel is getting hung on boot up.
[07:39] <twb> Typical grub crap :-/
[07:39] <twb> alissa: oh, in 10.04 they make grub default to not coming up with a menu at all
[07:40] <twb> alissa: on a VGA console, you hold Shift or Alt and it'll come up -- but obviously that can't work over serial.  Pop over to #grub and ask them
[07:45] <alissa> twb: hmm, yeah i tried shift and that didn't help.  will check on #grub.  just got notification from the network admins that they don't want me setting up a dhcp server.
[07:45] <alissa> so i guess i may end up making an iso after all.
[07:46] <twb> alissa: um, it CAN'T work
[07:46] <twb> The shift key won't send anything over serial until you hit a key
[07:46] <alissa> twb: i see...makes sense.
[07:46] <alissa> twb: why did they get rid of the ESC key??
[07:47] <twb> To make boot one second faster
[07:48] <twb> Of course, "you can just change it if you don't like it" -- once you can get in
[07:48] <alissa> -__-,
[07:48] <twb> I don't suppose you've tried booting a live CD?
[07:49] <twb> Also, try scroll lock and caps lock -- they JUST MIGHT work over serial
[07:49] <alissa> well, that's my original idea.  i was hoping that the live cd will start out on serial, i feed the kernel args and then recover my existing system.
[07:51] <alissa> but i want to make sure that works before i call the staff to do it (they aren't that friendly...)
[07:51] <alissa> twb: will try those keys...
[07:51] <twb> I don't know about a particular live CD.
[07:51] <twb> If I needed a live CD that did serial by default, I'd roll my own
[08:06] <Cynthia> Yeah. I deleted /etc/apache2 and reinstalled Apache so its configuration would be rewritten, and still no dice with the mod_rewrite.
[08:06] <Cynthia> Sigh :(
[08:06] <Cynthia> I'll try some other things first...
[08:09] <_chris_> hej all. im kinda new and have an ubuntu test machine in vmware. now i want to install xinetd on it. just wonder if this can cause any probs with installed packages or so ?
[08:21] <Cynthia> I see that I didn't have RewriteEngine On in my configuration. However, adding it does nothing. I tried all the possible locations for it (httpd.conf, sites-available/default, inside <Directory>, outside <Directory>, apache2.conf) and nothing happens at all.
[08:22] <Cynthia> So now, what's wrong?
[08:23] <Cynthia> Also worthy of note, is that 'sudo apache2 -M' from this thread <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255556>, which is supposed to give a more accurate loaded-module-list than 'apache2ctl -l' gives me 'apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}'
[08:24] <twb> _chris_: installing official packages via apt should not cause any problems
[08:24] <twb> (Other than, say installing something you didn't want.)
[08:25] <_chris_> twb: hehe ok, thx:)
[08:32] <Daviey> .
[09:33] <Cynthia> Fixed my Apache problem by putting RewriteEngine On and all my RewriteRules in a file named "incl-rewriterules.conf" and using "Include /etc/apache2/incl-rewriterules.conf" in sites-available/default's VirtualHost section, outside of all directories. It doesn't work otherwise.
[09:34] <Cynthia> Thanks for your time, even if I ended up finding out a solution on my own ^_^
[12:15] <kaushal> hi
[12:16] <Arkns> hi all. how could I create a account with the pattern <first_name>.<last_name> because on my lan's work this is how is my login... and on installation of ubuntu server they not allowed to create a account like this...
[12:18] <kaushal> can some one please guide me my post regarding disk usage https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2010-June/004362.html
[12:27] <nimrod10> is there a button one can push to stop displaying the splash screen in ubuntu server 10.04 ?
[12:28] <nimrod10> I think  the splash screen makes sense for the desktops but not for the servers, where you actually want to be able to see what is going on under the hood :)
[12:37] <guntbert> nimrod10: in the grub menu edit the boot line and replace quiet with noquiet (just for  a test)
[12:40] <kaushal> hi
[12:40] <kaushal> what does du -hs /* /.[^.]* mean
[12:40] <kaushal> I mean /.[^.]*
[12:41] <guntbert> one dot followed by anything except another dot
[12:41] <kaushal> what does that mean
[12:42] <kaushal> I have still not understood
[12:43] <guntbert> kaushal: it lists/counts files/directories with names like .ssh .mc     but not .. (which stands for the parent directory
[12:50] <nimrod10> guntbert, I mean when it boots, in the other ubuntu versions one could hit the esc key to edit the grub line manually but it doesn't work in ubuntu 10.04
[12:51] <nimrod10> I have a server that frezeeses at the splash screen and it would really be useful to see what is happening under that splash screen
[12:51] <alarmschaben> nimrod10: try removing the "quiet" boot option
[12:51] <zul> morning
[12:52] <nimrod10> alarmschaben, I'll have to boot it in another manner as it freezes at the splash screen
[12:52] <guntbert> nimrod10: are you talking about the installer CD?
[12:53] <alarmschaben> nimrod10: I see. Hmm.. any GRUB 2 shamans here? :-)
[12:54] <nimrod10> no , ubuntu is already installed on the server and when I boot it just freezes at the splash screen. In older ubuntu version one could hit esc to edit manually the grub lines
[12:54] <pmatulis> nimrod10: SHIFT
[12:55] <nimrod10> pmatulis, is i press SHIFT i get the grub menu ?
[12:57] <guntbert> nimrod10: yes, sorry I forgot that because thats always the first thing I change in my systems, (sometimes only the left <shift> works
[12:57] <nimrod10> thanks guntbert , pmatulis I'll go and try it now
[12:58] <guntbert> nimrod10: and for the future that menu is called "grub menu" - that makes asking a little easier :-)
[12:58] <guntbert> nimrod10: Good luck :-)
[12:58] <kaushal> checking in again for the query ?
[12:59] <kaushal> can some one please guide me my post regarding disk usage https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2010-June/004362.html
[13:06] <pmatulis> kaushal: sparse files may be involved
[13:09] <kaushal> pmatulis: how can i look for it
[13:10] <pmatulis> kaushal: http://tinyurl.com/2dtm3ta
[13:11] <trapmax> =)
[13:23] <nimrod10> guntbert, I saw that sometimes the shift doesn't work
[13:23] <nimrod10> it worked for me 1 out of 4 times :(
[13:24] <pmatulis> nimrod10: keep it pressed down (instead of multiple taps)
[13:33] <zul> ttx: updted the spec
[13:36] <ttx> zul: ack
[13:38] <sommer> morning all :-)
[13:38] <nimrod10> pmatulis, thanks I'll try right after I've had some lunch
[13:49] <ccheney> ttx, see your email for a message i sent you
[13:50] <ttx> ccheney: ack
[13:50] <ccheney> ttx: thanks
[13:51] <ccheney> ttx, hope to see you guys tomorrow, but will let you know how things go
[13:51] <ttx> ok
[14:00] <ntmartin> Hi, we're having an issue with Apache2 on 10.04 where it seems that envvars is being overriden by ENV in /etc/init.d/apache2
[14:01] <ntmartin> Is there a way to ensure that envvars and PassEnv work as expected without hacking /etc/init.d/apache2 ?
[14:01] <ntmartin> Thanks
[14:02] <ntmartin> ah forget it, looks like we sorted that :)
[14:02] <zul> ttx: aieeee stop spamming me
[14:06] <ttx> zul: I can generate notifications faster than you can move my emails to the trashcan
[14:22] <_chris_> how can i do a portscan on my machine to see what ports are listening ?
[14:24] <hito_jp> If you allow *non-real* portscaning, exec "sudo lsof -i".
[14:25] <_chris_> okay thanks
[14:30] <eagles0513875> hey guys how can i find the url to an iso image of ubuntu server so i can download it via wget
[14:31] <jpds> eagles0513875: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ubuntu-10.04-server-amd64.iso
[14:31] <eagles0513875> thank you :)
[14:32] <eagles0513875> thats better
[14:32] <eagles0513875> how come the new ubuntu site doesnt ask you to choose a mirror any more
[14:32] <jpds> Because it's got smarter and uses GeoIP.
[14:32] <eagles0513875> no wonder i getting the crappy download speeds cuz it using the local mirror
[14:32] <eagles0513875> ahhhhhhhh
[14:34] <eagles0513875> ty btw jpds :)
[14:34] <jpds> No problem.
[14:41] <kirkland> hallyn: howdy ...  so seabios ...
[14:41] <kirkland> hallyn: okay, so you're saying it doesn't have a bzr branch yet
[14:41] <SpamapS> "Oracle’s “run Java within the database” is an example of totally retarded functionality whose main job is to ruin your life" -- Monty Taylor, Velocity 2010
[14:41] <kirkland> hallyn: you can poke Jamesw to get one created
[14:41] <kirkland> hallyn: but in the meantime, you'll need to create a debdiff the old fashion way... here's how:
[14:42] <kirkland> hallyn: start here: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seabios
[14:42] <kirkland> hallyn: and then:  dget https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/seabios_0.5.1-0ubuntu2.dsc
[14:42] <kirkland> hallyn: dget is a special wrapper around wget
[14:42] <kirkland> hallyn: and a *dsc file is a source package
[14:42] <kirkland> hallyn: dget grabs everything associated with that source package
[14:43] <kirkland> hallyn: if you were just making a minor change to the package, you'd go in and do your work (like adding something to debian/patches)
[14:43] <kirkland> hallyn: and then increment the version and document your changes with "dch -i"
[14:43] <kirkland> hallyn: and then build a new source package with debuild -S
[14:44] <kirkland> hallyn: and then run debdiff against the two .dsc's to generate a debdiff (which is just a patch)
[14:44] <kirkland> hallyn: you could then attach that patch somewhere to show someone, and as them to sponsor it
[14:44] <hallyn> just email them?
[14:44] <hallyn> no launchpad way?
[14:44] <kirkland> hallyn: attach to a launchpad bug
[14:45] <kirkland> hallyn: that's what i like, because it gives me authentication
[14:45] <hallyn> ok
[14:45] <kirkland> hallyn: ie, i know it's *you* who provided that patch
[14:45] <kirkland> hallyn: okay, but for a merge, the debdiff is often *huge*
[14:45] <kirkland> hallyn: so i did those a little different when i needed sponsoring
[14:46] <kaushal> hi
[14:46] <kaushal> does jconsole http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/J2SE/jconsole.html cause additional overheads on a server ?
[14:46] <kirkland> hallyn: first i check debian
[14:46] <kirkland> hallyn: http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/seabios.html
[14:46] <kirkland> hallyn: unfortunately, no seabios 0.6 there :-(
[14:46] <kirkland> hallyn: so we'll have to merge directly from upstream (or wait on debian)
[14:47] <kirkland> hallyn: to merge directly from upstream, i do the dget of maverick's seabios .dsc
[14:47] <kirkland> hallyn: then i wget the released seabios tar.gz
[14:47] <hallyn> (suppose it might be worth asking the debian maintainer if he was going to grab what's needed for virtio boot)
[14:47] <eagles0513875> !enter | kirkland
[14:48] <kirkland> hallyn: it's worth asking
[14:48] <kirkland> hallyn: then he does the hard work
[14:48] <hallyn> \0/
[14:48] <kirkland> ;-)
[14:48] <hallyn> but meanwhile...
[14:49] <hallyn> i've got your package, the 0.6.0.tar.gz, and the git tree, and the list of patches to cherry-pick...
[14:49] <hallyn> i can build myself a package,
[14:49] <kirkland> hallyn: yeah, just build yourself a 0.6.0 package
[14:49] <hallyn> jsut not sure what to do with it to get it sponsored
[14:50] <kirkland> hallyn: build a source package, and then rsync -a the entire tree to people.canonical.com (or somewhere)
[14:50] <kirkland> hallyn: i'll want to review the whole tree
[14:50] <hallyn> heh, cool, that's simple enough
[14:50] <kirkland> hallyn: when i'm happy with it, i'll dput your .changes file
[14:50] <kirkland> hallyn: yup ;-)
[14:50] <hallyn> ok, thanks!  lemme start by talking to anthony though and make sure there ar eno gotchas
[14:50] <kirkland> hallyn: bzr branch lp:~kirkland/+junk/bin
[14:51] <kirkland> hallyn: see the "pcc" script, it puts stuff to people.canonical.com/~kirkland
[14:51] <kirkland> hallyn: i use it all the time, when pastebin just won't cut it ;-)
[14:52] <smoser> hallyn, so you think the seabios fixes my -kernel multiboot.img bug ?
[14:52] <smoser> we need pastebinit to imporove to do encoding so you can put binary files in it :)
[14:52] <smoser> and a 'unpastebinit' that does the reverse
[14:55] <hallyn> smoser: yes it fixed it for me
[14:55] <smoser> whoohoo
[14:56] <hallyn> kirkland: w00t - lazyness FTW  :)
[14:57] <hallyn> smoser: you can try out http://people.canonical.com/~serge/bios.bin
[14:57] <smoser> hallyn, so get your other debs from yesterday and that bios.bin ?
[14:57] <hallyn> smoser: (along with qemu-kvm package out of ppa:serge-hallyn/virt)
[14:57] <smoser> ah. good.
[14:58] <hallyn> smoser: that's probably not exactly the bios that would end up in the new seabios package, so once i scrounge that together another test will be in order :(
[15:01] <smoser> hallyn, thats fine.
[15:01] <smoser> fyi, your qemu package is out of date
[15:02] <hallyn> huh
[15:02] <hallyn> the maverick one?
[15:02] <hallyn> smoser: out of date wrt what?
[15:03] <smoser> with respect to the archive
[15:04] <smoser> http://pastebin.com/Kdt6Tfnq
[15:04] <smoser> ok. someone help. there is apt syntax for saying "i want qemu-kvm of *this* version" right ?
[15:05] <smoser> i tried '-t 0.12.4+noroms-0ubuntu1' but that didn't seem to have affect
[15:06] <hallyn> smoser: that's not the right package
[15:06] <hallyn> can you apt-get update?
[15:06] <hallyn> it should be qemu-kvm - 0.12.4+noroms-0ubuntu5~debug
[15:06] <hallyn> feh lemme psot the (*$&(*& debs
[15:07] <hallyn> smoser: they're slowly uploading to http://people.canonical.com/~serge/kvm-multiboot-debs/
[15:09] <Daviey> hggdh: Hey, do you want a new package for the new bzr revision?
[15:09] <Daviey> hggdh: BTW, Chris Grze pushed directly to the master 1.6.2 branch - not his personal one
[15:10] <hggdh> Daviey: ah... this is why... yes, please, if you do not mind
[15:10] <Daviey> hggdh: ok
[15:11] <smoser> hallyn, so your archive just isn't updated ? oh.. i see you're still building.
[15:11] <smoser> yeah.
[15:11] <hallyn> oh is it???
[15:11] <smoser> i'll pull from pelp.e
[15:11] <smoser> https://launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/+archive/virt/+packages
[15:11] <hallyn> well my rsync seems to be hung
[15:11] <smoser> (see "Build Status"
[15:11] <hallyn> i thought inthe past things didn't show up until they were built
[15:12] <smoser> i dont know.
[15:12] <hallyn> ok nm just use the .deb from yesterday :)
[15:12] <hallyn> i'll ping when rsync is done
[15:12]  * hallyn suspects time-warner is throttling him out of spite
[15:15] <kaushal> does jconsole http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/J2SE/jconsole.html cause additional overheads on a server ?
[15:15] <kaushal> or are there any lightweight applications
[15:18] <hallyn> smoser: rsync is done fwiw
[15:19] <smoser> ok.
[15:20] <smoser> hallyn, http://people.canonical.com/~serge/kvm-multiboot-debs/
[15:20] <smoser> ?
[15:21] <hallyn> smoser: oh, kirkland's script uses rsync, and i included the trailing /
[15:22] <hallyn> you're not copying now are you?
[15:22] <hallyn> smoser: now that dir exists
[15:22] <hallyn> (they were just in the parent dir, for the reason cited above)
[15:23] <qwert> hello is this ubuntu-server room?
[15:24] <qwert> i am looking for help with respect to setting LDAP on ubuntu 10.04
[15:24] <qwert> ?
[15:29] <eagles0513875> !ldap | qwert
[15:30] <qwert> ubottu: is not that the old LDAP setup
[15:30] <coonlokht> hi all
[15:31] <coonlokht> seems that acl on samba has some troubles
[15:31] <qwert> yes eagles
[15:31] <coonlokht> do you experience problems with it ?
[15:35] <Daviey> hggdh: Pushed to PPA, if you have your machine ready - it should be built and published in ~20 mins.
[15:35] <Daviey> hggdh: 1.6.2-0ubuntu30.3.6
[15:36] <hggdh> Daviey: my machine is always reay ;-)
[15:36] <hggdh> ready even
[15:41] <Daviey> hggdh: \o/
[15:59] <coonlokht> is samba .deb package compile with acls support ?
[16:02] <hallyn> smoser: http://people.canonical.com/~serge/seabios_0.6.0-0ubuntu1_all.deb should be exactly, to-the-patch, the same seabios as in qemu
[16:02] <hallyn> smoser: can you give that one a try?
[16:02] <hallyn> smoser: how did the other work for you?
[16:02] <smoser> hadn't gotten there yet
[16:02] <smoser> so i just got your debs
[16:03] <smoser> installed qemu and qemu-common
[16:03] <hallyn> cool, thx
[16:28] <smoser> hallyn, ping
[16:29] <hallyn> .
[16:30] <hallyn> smoser: .
[16:30] <smoser> hallyn, pm
[16:35] <azlon> hello
[16:35] <azlon> when i nmap my ip address it says my port 80 is closed. i have apache installed, how can i open port 80?
[16:36] <smoser> anyone able to help
[16:36] <smoser> http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/maverick/20100629.1/log.stdout.stderr
[16:36] <smoser> uec image build dies with: pycentral pkgremove: package python-yaml is not installed
[16:39] <zul> caught in a transition maybe?
[16:41] <smoser> zul, transition of what do you think?
[17:12] <baddassmutha> Hello, does anyone have experience with phpScheduleIt application?
[17:13] <SpamapS> baddassmutha: we might not have experience with that, but we can probably answer questions about specific error messages from PHP/apache/etc
[17:14] <baddassmutha> ok, well, at work im testing phpScheduleIt on a fresh install of Ubuntu Server 10.04, i have working WordPress, Openfire etc and have the server along with this Ubuntu Desktop laptop joined and authenticating against the domain
[17:14] <baddassmutha> problem is, when setting up the config file in phpScheduleIt with the LDAP server details, it doesnt work
[17:15] <baddassmutha> i get a blank page reply
[17:16] <baddassmutha> phpSceduleIt works on its own and i can setup individual users when logging into it, but when i change to to say authenticate usng LDAP it fails
[17:17] <kaushal> hi
[17:17] <kaushal> Does jconsole http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/J2SE/jconsole.html cause additional overheads on a server?
[17:20] <baddassmutha> i need to leave soon, so one last question, anyone have any joy backup up a linux ubuntu server 10.04 with symantec backup exec? from what i can see, they only support redhat and suse enterprise distros. (boo).
[17:20] <kaushal> is there a java ubuntu channel ?
[17:23] <zul> smoser: newer version of python or python-central?
[17:24] <ChmEarl> using debootstrap, then installing ubuntu_minimal, there is no admin group when I chroot. Do I need to add a package or issue a cmd?
[17:41] <hallyn> kirkland: can you take a look at http://people.canonical.com/~serge/seabios-0.6.0ubuntu1 ?
[18:13] <smoser> ttx, could you pleaes try to find someone to chase the UEC image build failure at http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/maverick/20100629.1/log.stdout.stderr
[18:13] <smoser> pycentral pkgremove: package python-yaml is not installed
[18:13] <smoser> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python-yaml_3.09-3_i386.deb (--unpack):
[18:13] <smoser>  subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[18:13] <smoser> Errors were encountered while processing:
[18:13] <smoser>  /var/cache/apt/archives/python-yaml_3.09-3_i386.deb
[18:13] <smoser> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[18:15] <smoser> ScottK, ^^
[18:16] <smoser> this was the first build that pulled in _3.09-3 . yesterday's had 3.09-2build1
[18:35] <tietokone> sudo lshw -C network. Gives no information, what is wrong?
[18:36] <huckle> hi, i'm setting up apache2 at a university and i can access the site locally with it's domain name but not over the internet; could anyone tell me where my likely configuration needs are?
[18:36] <SpamapS> tietokone: maybe you don't have any network hardware detected?
[18:38] <tietokone> But i did set driver from Windows Wireless Drivers
[18:41] <rberger> smoser How do I get the hosts.tmpl to be loaded? I didn't see it being ever rendered in the cloud-init code. I think that having cloud-init set the FQDN in /etc/hosts based on the local-hostname meta-data would fix my problem
[18:41] <SpamapS> tietokone: maybe it didn't work ... I've never tried adding wireless drivers to a server, but you might try looking in 'dmesg'
[18:41] <rberger> Eucalyptus is not doing the right thing with DNS PTR and they don't have a mechanism to set domain-search in their dhcpd.conf on the CLC
[18:41] <SpamapS> tietokone: as in, run 'dmesg | more'
[18:42] <SpamapS> rberger: I believe this is a common issue and some people are working on it.
[18:48] <rberger> SpammpS Which problem is common the DNS stuff or the inability to load the hosts.tmp
[18:57] <Daviey> hggdh: Hey.. did you have a chance to try that latest build?
[18:57] <SpamapS> rberger: the problem with hosts
[18:57] <hggdh> Daviey: running right now, so far, so good
[18:58] <Daviey> hggdh: Awesome!  That is really good news.  If you can report full success as soon as it's finished, we'll get it SRU'd into Lucid. \o/
[19:02] <guhcampos> What's the recommended way to see / edit startup script configuration in ubuntu? Something like chkconfig on RedHat/Centos
[19:02] <guhcampos> I mean: enable, disable, change runlevel of the scripts
[19:04] <tietokone> SpamapsS: What to look from dmesg | more?
[19:04] <hggdh> Daviey: one can hope ;-)
[19:21] <tietokone> sudo ndiswrapper -l
[19:21] <tietokone> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper, it will be ignored in a future release.
[19:21] <tietokone> sis163u : driver installed
[19:21] <tietokone> 	device (0BF8:100F) present
[19:21] <tietokone> tells that driver should be running correctly?
[19:22] <tietokone> but still i get a message:
[19:22] <tietokone> sudo iwconfig
[19:22] <tietokone> lo        no wireless extensions.
[19:22] <tietokone> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[19:22] <tietokone> ppp0      no wireless extensions.
[20:03] <zul> jcastro: ping
[20:06] <jcastro> zul: pong
[20:07] <zul> jcastro: im slowly converting/reactivating server daily builds should i add them to the list?
[20:07] <jcastro> zul: yea, as you add them please!
[20:07] <jcastro> zul: oh hey, I would like feedback on this naming convention thing
[20:08] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyBuilds/NamingConvention
[20:08] <jcastro> in hindsight I should have talked to you first, heh
[20:23] <zul> jcastro: yeah i saw that, that looks fine to me
[20:24] <jcastro> jrock
[20:31] <hggdh> Daviey, ttx, kirkland: are we going to put Dave's package (for bug 566792) in the SRU queue for Lucid soon? I need to know so that we can prepare for A2
[20:35] <ttx> hggdh: A2 will come first
[20:36] <hallyn> so, in bug 595388 libvirt autostarts a vm whose disk is on aoe, and isn't ready for some time after boot.  he has a workaround (upstart script).  do i now mark that as wontfix?
[20:36] <smoser> ScottK, did you seem my issues above ?
[20:45] <smoser> zul, can you accept bug 599921 for maverick nomination
[20:45] <smoser> and ScottK that is the bug I've opened on python-yaml.  (Sorry to pester you I'll be in later to look more into it).
[20:45] <zul> sure but what do i get out of it/
[20:46] <smoser> i'll buy you a czech donut
[20:46] <zul> sounds good to me
[20:49] <coder7_w> are there configuration tools for managing upstart jobs, or must it be done by directly editing /etc/init/* files?
[20:55] <valko_1975> hi
[20:55] <valko_1975> i have problems
[20:55] <valko_1975> witth ubuntu server raid 1 setting up
[20:56] <valko_1975> mother board is ga-p55m-ud2
[20:56] <BluesKaj> hiyas , I'm thinking of setting up a server for hosting files for our family , it will be a headless setup , which will need remote access permissions for family members . Can you guys point me to a site that might fit those needs.
[20:58] <BluesKaj> thinking of using ssh client/server for linux boxes , any suggestions for windows pcs to access remotely ?
[21:04] <BluesKaj> just installed lucid server , so i'm ready for info ;)
[21:05] <BluesKaj> ssh'd into it from laptop
[21:07] <BluesKaj> oh well, guess the silence means I'm on my own
[21:09] <valko_1975> need some help
[21:14] <ChmEarl> BluesKaj, use putty on Win
[21:15] <BluesKaj> ChmEarl, putty , yeah , not real impressed with it so far
[21:16] <ChmEarl> BluesKaj, cygwin is more cmdline oriented and integrates better
[21:19] <kirkland> hggdh: if you're happy with the ppa version, then yes, let's get it on the SRU track
[21:19] <RoAkSoAx> zul: is there a wikipage that guides for the convertion from init scripts to upstart?
[21:24] <hggdh> kirkland: I am as happy as possible. There may still be a race lurking somewhere, but we have to move
[21:24] <hggdh> after all, it is quite difficult to guarantee a race is gone
[21:32] <kirkland> hggdh: ack;  let's get this into lucid-proposed
[21:33] <kirkland> hggdh: i'm happy if you're happy ;-)
[21:33] <kirkland> hggdh: you da man
[21:33] <hggdh> :-)
[21:33] <kabal`court> I need help setting the date on ubuntu server 8.4 >> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/vMz5Jfyv
[21:42] <hggdh> kabal`court: sudo date -s <datestring>
[21:43] <kabal`court> doesnt work..
[21:43] <BluesKaj> ChmEarl, is cygwin as difficult to setup as the rumours I've heard about it ?
[21:43] <kirkland> hallyn: hey, sorry for the delay
[21:43] <kirkland> hallyn: i can review seabios now
[21:45] <kirkland> hallyn: however, i'll need to hold off on sponsoring this until after the Alpha2 freeze lifts:
[21:45] <kirkland> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2010-June/000727.html
[21:55] <hallyn> kirkland: cool, thanks
[21:55] <hallyn> who knows you might have to hold off on sponsoring until i fix all the things i broke :)
[22:00] <luddite1811> I have a esxi vm that had an 8 gb LVM setup, I increased and inflated the virtual disk size through vsphere, when I go to run the sudo lvextend -L60G /dev/mapper/homevol command it states there aren't enough extents?
[22:00] <luddite1811> how do I get the ubuntu server to pickup that I have increased the virtual hard disk?
[22:02] <guntbert> luddite1811: why didn't you just add another virtula disk and then add anotehr PV to your VG?
[22:03] <guntbert> *virtual
[22:03] <luddite1811> just trying to have the one hard disk
[22:03] <guntbert> luddite1811:
[22:04] <guntbert> sorry, I am ready for bed, too many erros on the keyboard :-)
[22:04] <luddite1811> I have already allocated all of the space and am just trying to figure out why it isn't showing up.
[22:04] <luddite1811> lol :) thanks for the help
[22:10] <kirkland> hallyn: when uploading the package for review, make sure you upload your signed source package (debuild -S)
[22:11] <kirkland> hallyn: that's what I need to sponsor ;-)
[22:12] <kirkland> hallyn: also, when reviewing an upload I usually run "lintian -I *deb *dsc"
[22:12] <kirkland> hallyn: it's not your fault, but I do see one lintian error in this package, which is easy to solve
[22:12] <kirkland> E: seabios: debian-changelog-file-missing
[22:12] <kirkland> hallyn: just need to add dh_installchangelogs to the debian/rules file
[22:12] <kirkland> (that was my fault in the initial packaging actually)
[22:14] <kirkland> hallyn: otherwise, package looks good
[22:15] <kirkland> hallyn: i'll upload on Thursday, after the freeze lifts
[22:22] <coder7_w> eh, BluesKaj left, but the recommendation should have been to use the pre-packages openssh for windows that uses cygwin
[22:22] <coder7_w> it takes about 15 seconds to install, and about 45 seconds to configure
[22:23] <coder7_w> *pre-packaged
[22:46] <hallyn> kirkland: ok - i thought you  were sayinh you just wanted the original source dir.  have you put the dh_installchangelogs in debian/rules in your copy, or should i do that?
[22:51] <kirkland> hallyn: go for it ;-)
[23:08] <hallyn> kirkland: new version uploaded.  thanks for the review!
[23:08] <kirkland> hallyn: sure thing, you're old hat at this packaging thing now ;-)
[23:10] <hallyn> debian/rules is still black magic to me
[23:10] <hallyn> but, time for a vicious game of 'at full throttle', biab
[23:19] <chilicui1> hi there, a fast question, how can I force a virtual interface to use a different dns?, can I added to /etc/network/interfaces?
[23:24] <Sorrell> anyone here use ispconfig?
[23:24] <Sorrell> Just wondering what people thought of it.
[23:24] <Sorrell> Is it worth installing?
[23:56] <osmosis> Can anyone tell my why on lucid, kvm guest instances will sometimes become unresponsive and go to 99% cpu usage???
[23:57] <hallyn> osmosis: does it happen after awhile (say a few days), and pretty predictably?
[23:57] <hallyn> there are two possiblities:
[23:57] <hallyn> 1. there is a memory leak,
[23:57] <hallyn> and (2) the SDL graphics through framebuffer (i believe) can cause a problem
[23:58] <hallyn> I've only seen the graphics one so far with the livecd, not after installing - but i assume that's just to do with the kernel