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RAOFalf__: And with mesa 7.9 we'll probably just ship MesaLib in the mesa source package, because mesa-demos has now got a separate repository.00:03
bjsnidersuperm1, was there ever a problem with shared libs in the nvidia blob package conflicting with mesa dev packages, specifically regarding building mythtv?02:37
superm1bjsnider, not as far as i'm aware05:31
superm1there it some stuff in debian/control for mythtv to allow it to build on older (9.04) packages where vdpau wasn't yet standalone05:31
superm1but nothing about mesa that i can think05:32
superm1is there aproblem?05:32
RAOFDear i915: More working, less deadlocking in i915_gem_madvise_ioctl!06:10
diverse_izzuehi ubuntu X-ers. i'm running lucid on intel graphics and cannot get an external screen to work (it shows "input signal out of range"). xrandr output looks reasonable. same screen worked on lucid+ATI on another machine.09:13
alf__Hi all! It seems that egl.pc in libegl1-mesa-dev contains a "Requires.private" to "libdrm, dri2proto ...".10:10
alf__Shouldn't the libegl1-mesa-dev package depend on the -dev packages containing the associated "libdrm, dri2proto ..." .pc files?10:11
RAOFalf__: Yes.10:30
alf__RAOF: I can create a patch for this if you are not working on it already10:35
RAOFI'm not working on it already; if you want to create a patch I'll apply it for the next upload, or I can make the changes myself in the next upload.10:36
alf__RAOF: I'll create a patch then to save you the trouble :)10:39
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alf__RAOF: Is mesa 7.9 targeted for maverick?10:46
RAOFalf__: Yes.10:48
alf__RAOF: great, thanks10:48
* jcristau sighs at the 20MB MesaDemos tarball11:32
jcristauRAOF: would you mind if i accidentally rm'ed progs/objviewer before creating mesa_7.8.2.orig.tar.gz?11:34
alf__RAOF: Should I add versioned dependencies to libegl1-mesa-dev eg libdrm-dev (>= 2.4.19) [!hurd-i386] vs just libdrm-dev?12:43
bjsnidersuperm1, one of the mythtv developers was saying to me in an email that he ahd to move some of the shared ibs in the nvidia driver into the -dev package because they conflict with some other -dev packages required to build mythtv12:59
tseliotfederico1: have you seen our emails on input rotation?15:25
superm1bjsnider, on what, maverick?15:45
superm1bjsnider, i'm still perplexed, can you reproduce his problem?15:46
superm1bjsnider, it might be best to get all of this stuff on a bug 16:33
bjsnidersuperm1, no, on one of the older distros17:08
superm1bjsnider, how much older?17:35
bjsniderolde than lucid, that's all i know. i don't have many specifics.17:36
bjsnideri don't think nvidia-glx-xxx-dev has ever had any shared libs in it though. so i don't know how myth was being built in the past if this was a problem17:37
superm1bjsnider, well if the details show up on a bug, can try to reproduce it on a current version17:50
superm1otherwise, won't fix most likely for the older one17:50
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shadeslayerSarvatt: around?20:11
shadeslayerhi,whats the default open source driver for ATi cards on Ubuntu?20:28
johanbrshadeslayer, the -ati driver20:40
shadeslayerjohanbr: ok.. btw any idea on how to get the kernel to boot one step at a time?20:41
johanbrI'm not sure what you mean by that20:41
shadeslayerjohanbr: we have a issue in #kubuntu-devel ... would be helpful if you can join20:41
shadeslayerrelated to g/kdm20:42
shadeslayerNightrose: ^^20:42
shadeslayerdidnt realise you were here ;)20:42
Nightrose'lo20:42
shadeslayerSo Nightrose upgraded her system from 9.10 to 10.04 and now k/gdm hangs up 20:43
Nightrose(upgrade failed due to computer restarting in the middle of it...)20:43
Nightrosei finished it from command line then20:43
johanbrhmm... anything in the logs?20:46
shadeslayerjohanbr: the system freezes up..20:46
shadeslayershe can only access the recovery console20:46
shadeslayerjohanbr: afaik dmesg gets erased after every boot20:47
shadeslayerjohanbr: ATi card btw20:47
shadeslayerhttp://pastebin.com/5W7qAtcN << hwinfo --framebuffer20:48
johanbranything in /var/log/gdm/* ?20:49
Nightrosei'll check - can take a while20:50
johanbrand does "sudo startx" work?20:52
shadeslayerjohanbr: sudo startx ?20:52
johanbryes20:53
Nightrosejohanbr: there are a few files in that folder - which one do i want?20:54
johanbr:0.log is probably most interesting20:55
Nightrosek20:56
Nightrosejohanbr: pastebin.com/zBuKSZvr20:58
jefferaishadeslayer: sup21:00
shadeslayerjefferai: johanbr is helping with the issues 21:00
johanbrwell, trying to anyway :)21:00
jefferaijohanbr: is there a way to step through the services that are being started during bootup?21:01
jefferaiso that the exact service that ends up causing the hang can be pinpointed?21:01
johanbrjefferai, not that I know of21:04
jefferai:-|21:04
jefferaijohanbr: the hang occurs even when X is not being used21:05
jefferaiNightrose: right?21:05
johanbrI didn't realize there was a hang21:05
Nightrosejefferai: well if i have it use gdm it doesn't seem to come up - before with kdm it did21:05
johanbrtry booting without "splash" and "quiet" and see what the last thing printed is21:06
Nightroseit did = X came up21:06
jefferaiNightrose: right, but didn't you say that if you disabled X entirely that it still hung?21:06
Nightrosejefferai: i don't really know how to do that - except for booting into recovery mode21:07
Nightrosewhere it doesn't hang21:07
Nightrosebut that doesn't say much i guess21:07
johanbrso everything works except X?21:07
Nightrosejohanbr: i don't know for sure tbh... - X at least starts when i have it set to start kdm21:08
shadeslayerjohanbr: apparently X starts -> KDM starts -> everything hangs21:08
Nightroseyes21:08
johanbrdid you try "sudo startx" ?21:09
Nightrosescreen turns black with non-blinking cursor at top right21:11
johanbrdefinitely sounds like some X package is busted, then21:14
shadeslayerjefferai: aha! :D21:14
shadeslayer( and yes thats meant for jefferai :P )21:15
Nightrosejohanbr: any ideas what to do about it? or where to look for more info?21:15
johanbrmaybe try "sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg-core"21:16
jefferaishadeslayer: ?21:16
shadeslayerjefferai: i told you it was a X bug :D21:16
shadeslayerwell.. not exactly x but x related :P21:16
jefferaishadeslayer: I didn't disagree about it being an x bug21:17
jefferaiI said I wasn't convinced it was a video driver bug21:17
shadeslayeryou didnt agree either ;)21:17
jefferaiI like to keep options open when debugging21:17
jefferaiespecially debugging distros I don't use21:17
shadeslayerjefferai: ok.. im just playing with you ;)21:18
jefferai:-)21:18
* shadeslayer is really gratefull to jefferai21:18
shadeslayer*grateful 21:19
jefferai:-)21:21
jefferai*hugs*21:21
Nightrosejohanbr: ok can startx from recovery mode - shows login sequenze to kde then freezes somewhere in the middle of it21:23
johanbrNightrose, alright... I guess try the same thing for KDE then21:24
shadeslayerNightrose: ksplash comes online?21:24
johanbr"sudo apt-get --reinstall install kdebase" or something similar21:24
shadeslayerNightrose: sudo apt-get --reinstall install kdebase kdelibs21:24
Nightroseshadeslayer: jep until it freezes ;-)21:25
Nightroseok21:25
* jefferai wonders if there is a way to simply reinstall all of the packages in the system21:25
shadeslayerNightrose: sudo apt-get --reinstall install kdebase kdelibs5 actually21:25
jefferailike an "emerge -e world" on gentoo :-)21:25
Nightrosek21:25
Nightroseheh21:25
shadeslayerjefferai: sudo apt-get --reinstall install * :P21:25
* Nightrose ponders doing that21:25
jefferainice21:25
jefferaiheh21:25
Nightrosebad idea?21:25
jefferaisudo is for wimps21:26
jefferaisu - 21:26
jefferaiand run wild21:26
jefferai:-D21:26
shadeslayer:P21:26
johanbrI don't think * works21:26
shadeslayerjohanbr: would that be a bad idea?21:26
jefferaisudo apt-get --reinstall install `dpkg --list-installed`21:26
jefferaior something like that?21:26
* jefferai doesn't know dpkg options21:26
shadeslayerhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65867021:27
johanbryou could do "sudo apt-get --reinstall install $(dpkg -l |awk '/^i/{print $2}')"21:27
johanbrshould be fine, except it'll take quite a while21:28
Nightrosesudo apt-get --reinstall install kdebase kdelibs5 didn't help21:28
Nightroseok21:28
Nightrosewell i wasted lots of hours already... one or two more don't hurt at this point21:28
jefferaiOK, here's another question for you *buntu guys21:28
shadeslayerNightrose: well.. try the command johanbr gave21:29
jefferaicould it be a stale configuration file?21:29
NightroseyeaĆ¼21:29
Nightrose*yea21:29
jefferaithat should have been removed/upgraded, but wsn't?21:29
shadeslayeronly one way to find out21:29
shadeslayersudo dpkg-reconfigure -a :P21:30
johanbrcertainly possible, but a stale config file shouldn't cause the system to hang completely (in most cases)21:30
johanbrmy guess would be a broken driver or library somewhere21:30
* jefferai could see it with something udev related, or loading the wrong driver or with the wrong options in X21:30
* shadeslayer has to go to sleep now21:32
shadeslayerNightrose: your almost done i think :D21:33
Nightroseheh21:33
jefferaiWell21:33
jefferaialmost done with the things you can do :-)21:33
Nightrosejohanbr: that stops because amarok-kde4 has not installation candidate21:33
shadeslayeramarok kde4 0_o21:33
Nightroseait - s/no installation candidate/is not available but is reffered to by another package21:34
Nightrose*wait21:34
Nightrose*sigh* :(21:35
Nightrosei wasted 2 nights on this already 21:35
Nightroseand i don't see how i can finish my 3 talks this way until friday morning21:35
jefferaias painful as this sounds, could you do them on your Eee?21:36
Nightrosedon't even have ooo installed on it since there is no space for it21:36
Nightrose:/21:36
jefferaioh21:36
jefferaihm21:36
jefferaiother ideas: buy the cheapest video card you can find and try swapping the one you have out21:37
jefferaiperhaps trying nvidia instead21:37
* shadeslayer thinks its packaging issues now21:37
jefferaiusually you can get really old low-end cards for a pittance21:37
jefferaishadeslayer: unless it's problems with newer versions of software21:37
shadeslayerjefferai: amarok-kde4 was removed21:37
shadeslayerNightrose: your upgrading from 9.10?21:38
Nightroseyes21:38
jefferaishadeslayer: what about the command johanbr mentioned before, but ignoring deps?21:39
shadeslayerNightrose: try sudo apt-get --reinstall install `dpkg --list-installed`21:40
Nightrosek21:40
Nightrosecouldn't find package dpgk --listinstalled21:40
Nightroseoh sec21:41
Nightrosehmm yea21:41
Nightrosecouldn't find package dpgk --listinstalled21:41
shadeslayerNightrose: list-installed21:43
jefferaishadeslayer: I wouldn't attempt my dpkg line21:43
shadeslayermissing a - there21:43
jefferaisince I don't use dpkg21:43
jefferaiand have no idea what options are there21:43
Nightroseshadeslayer: same21:44
shadeslayerNightrose: do21:45
shadeslayer*doh21:45
shadeslayernot dpgk :P21:45
shadeslayeruse dppkg21:46
shadeslayeruff... dpkg21:46
* shadeslayer all confuzly21:46
jefferaiNightrose: sudo apt-get -m --reinstall install $(dpkg -l |awk '/^i/{print $2}')21:47
jefferaithe -m tells it to ignore missing packages21:47
jefferaithis might allow it to continue without amarok-kde421:47
Nightrose\o/21:47
Nightrosek21:47
jefferaiand when the offending package that needs amarok-kde4 is reinstalled hopefully the dep will be cleared21:47
Nightrosehmmm still complaining about amarok-kde421:48
shadeslayerNightrose: im off to sleep.. 21:48
jefferaiNightrose: try adding -f21:48
Nightrosegood night shadeslayer21:48
Nightrosek21:48
jefferaidoes it say *which* package complains about amarok-kde4?21:48
shadeslayerNightrose: i really hope it gets fixed21:48
Nightrosenope21:48
Nightrose-f doesn't help either21:49
Nightrosempfh21:49
* jefferai is surprised that packages depend on amarok, not the other way around21:49
Nightrosereferred to - might not actually be a dependency21:50
jefferaioh21:50
Nightrose*shrug*21:50
shadeslayeramarok-kde4 was removed21:50
jefferaidpkg -C ?21:50
shadeslayerso what ever was using it needs to be replaced as well21:50
shadeslayerNightrose: do you have good bandwidth ?21:50
Nightroseoksih21:50
Nightrose*okish21:50
shadeslayerNightrose: is it ok if i reinstall KDE ?21:51
jefferaiNightrose: try dpkg -C21:51
shadeslayerlike  as in you remove whole of KDE and reinstall it21:51
jefferaiit's the same as dpkg --audit21:51
Nightrosejefferai: k21:51
jefferaimaybe it'll print something useful21:51
Nightroseshadeslayer: sure...21:51
Nightrosejefferai: nothing21:51
jefferaimeh21:52
shadeslayerNightrose: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome21:52
Nightroseindeed21:52
shadeslayerremove KDE packages and then install kubuntu-desktop21:52
Nightroseuff - lot's to type...21:53
shadeslayerNightrose: oh noes21:53
jefferaiNightrose: try one more thing -- go to /var/lib/dpkg21:54
jefferaigrep -ri amarok *21:54
Nightrosek21:54
shadeslayerjefferai: you seem to know alot,even tho you dont have *buntu ;)21:55
jefferaishadeslayer: I just SSHed into a buntu box at work21:55
shadeslayernice21:55
shadeslayerjefferai: ( manpages can be found online as well ;) )21:55
shadeslayermanpages.ubuntu.com21:55
Nightrosejefferai: there is just a dpkg.log file - no folder21:55
jefferaiNightrose: better idea: 21:55
jefferaicd /var/lib/apt21:56
jefferaigrep -ri amarok-kde421:56
jefferaiit should show files nin lists/21:56
shadeslayerjefferai: dude... cant you ssh into Nightrose's box?21:56
jefferaidunno21:56
jefferaithat's up to her21:56
shadeslayerif that can be done..21:56
shadeslayerthen you can directly copy paste the command21:56
jefferaialso I have to leave soon21:56
Nightrosesure21:56
jefferai:-|21:56
shadeslayer:(21:56
Nightrosethough i'm behind a router - not sure if that'll work21:57
jefferaiah21:57
jefferaisec21:57
shadeslayerjefferai: i think that its due to loads of stupid packages that got left behind from 9.1021:58
johanbrNightrose, hmm... try "dpkg -l |awk '/^i/{print $2}' >/tmp/a"22:00
johanbrthen "nano /tmp/a" to remove any troublesome packages22:00
johanbrthen "sudo apt-get --reinstall install $(cat /tmp/a)"22:01

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