[00:00] <PoisonSerpent> m4dm4x: oh, yeah. gnome lynx
[00:00] <PoisonSerpent> ** gnome on lucid lynx
[00:00] <ChrazRitt> sebsebseb, i think my problem is that the fan isn't being run as fast as it does in windows, and with less air movement comes lower temp at the exhaust vents
[00:00] <sebsebseb> ChrazRitt: with 10.04?
[00:00] <m4dm4x> PoisonSerpent: didn't want to give you things to try, and you dont have those things, lol
[00:01] <ChrazRitt> sebsebseb, yes
[00:01] <AAA> ChrazRitt  lm-sensors will control fan speeds
[00:01] <sebsebseb> ChrazRitt: possibily an older version of Ubuntu would work better, or another distro http://www.distrowatch.com
[00:01] <PoisonSerpent> m4dm4x: lmfao - "yeah, PoisonSerpent, go load up k3b" ... uhmm, what?
[00:01] <ozatomic> Hey guys, with PXELinux is it posible to keep the stack open after telling teh computer to boot to the local driver and then be able to send remote commands to reboot the system?
[00:01] <PoisonSerpent> im gonna do a reboot
[00:01] <ChrazRitt> AAA, i can't get those packages to install properly
[00:01] <PoisonSerpent> brb
[00:01] <m4dm4x> PoisonSerpent: k
[00:02] <ChrazRitt> sebsebseb, an older version might not rum my sound hardware
[00:02] <egerlach> Hey Ubuntu peeps: When using NX with 10.04, all my windows grey out like they're not responding to events (except they are).  Any way to fix that or disable the greying of windows?
[00:02] <gundas> Hi all, I'm trying to run xclock - however I keep getting an Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0 - is there something I'm missing here?
[00:02] <sebsebseb> ChrazRitt: what sound hardware?
[00:03] <ChrazRitt> sebsebseb, amd/ati hdmi vid and sound chipset
[00:03] <ChrazRitt> 880
[00:03] <sebsebseb> ChrazRitt: does it overheat when your running the Live CD as well?
[00:04] <egerlach> gundas: if you open up a new terminal window, and type "
[00:04] <ChrazRitt> i never ran the live cd long enough to find out sebsebseb
[00:04] <egerlach> gundas: if you open up a new terminal window, and type "set | grep DISPLAY" (without quotes) what do you get?
[00:05] <kermit> what does 'enable notifiaciotns' in nm-applet do?
[00:05] <ChrazRitt> btw sebsebseb, i could have a lockup any time here
[00:05] <PoisonSerpent> well
[00:05] <PoisonSerpent> that didnt fix anything
[00:06] <m4dm4x> PoisonSerpent: can you open the sound preferences
[00:06] <Jordan_U> gundas: How are you trying to run xlock, is it from the package xlock, xlockmore, or xlockmore-gl, and why aren't you using gnome-screensaver?
[00:06] <m4dm4x> input tab
[00:06] <egerlach> Jordan_U: xclock, not xlock
[00:06] <PoisonSerpent> m4d: yup.
[00:07] <thune3_> kermit: show the connect/disconnect floating messages when status changes. (i think)
[00:07] <Jordan_U> egerlach: :) How are you trying to run xclock?
[00:07] <PoisonSerpent> m4dm4x: yep, im in it
[00:07] <PoisonSerpent> yay, autocomplete on xchat works. =)
[00:07] <m4dm4x> PoisonSerpent: what is in the connector dropdown menu
[00:07] <PoisonSerpent> m4dm4x: Internal Audio Analog Stereo
[00:07] <bobfcincinnati> Hey all can anyone recommend a program for creating database diagrams on linux ... visio esque but just for mapping out tables and keys and what not
[00:08] <egerlach> Jordan_U: I'm not trying, gundas is, but I just noticed that you identified the wrong problem. :-)  gundas doesn't seem to be responding, though.
[00:08] <h00k> bobfcincinnati: check out Dia
[00:08] <kermit> thune3_: no its not that, its to do with libnotify, whatever that is
[00:08] <kermit> thune3_: or at least, disabling it doesnt change the notifications it gives me
[00:08] <bobfcincinnati> h00k: TY
[00:08] <m4dm4x> PoisonSerpent: above the "Choose a device for sound input" what do you have
[00:08] <h00k> !info dia | bobfcincinnati
[00:09] <PoisonSerpent> m4dm4x: if you need to look up my specs, my netbook is a Gateway LT3114u
[00:10] <trece8> I have access to a PC via ssh. How do I run firefox through its network connection with ssh -X? Can it be done?
[00:10] <m4dm4x> PoisonSerpent: On my input tab, below my input volume settings, and level meter, there is a drop down menu
[00:10] <m4dm4x> PoisonSerpent: it lets me choose what I want to use as the input
[00:11] <meowbuntu> i have the 64 bit version of ubuntu 10.04 sometimes i find that i cant rune some applications i would like to am i better off reverting back to the x86
[00:11] <PoisonSerpent> m4dm4x: http://i.imgur.com/ab6ty.png
[00:11] <PoisonSerpent> thats what mine looks like
[00:11] <m4dm4x> PoisonSerpent: I have a multi channel sound card, so I have 5 options
[00:12] <newboon2age_> Hey y'all can i get help with my laptop that is stuck  on the plymouth boot splash http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1519312
[00:12] <m4dm4x> PoisonSerpent: hmm, ok, do you have a line in jack?
[00:12] <PoisonSerpent> m4dm4x: yes
[00:12] <PoisonSerpent> and a line in jack
[00:12] <PoisonSerpent> m4dm4x: i have a headphone/line in jack, a mic/line out jack, and a mic (which i believe is seperate)
[00:12] <m4dm4x> PoisonSerpent: mic in, line in, and built in mic, correct?
[00:13] <PoisonSerpent> m4dm4x: correct.
[00:13] <m4dm4x> PoisonSerpent: can you do a lsusb to make sure it is not a usb mic
[00:14] <PoisonSerpent> it picks up my webcam
[00:14] <PoisonSerpent> which is usb
[00:15] <PoisonSerpent> picks up 4 things which say Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub, and one thing that says Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub, and that's it.
[00:15] <m4dm4x> PoisonSerpent: on the hardware tab, does it only list one device?  and what profile is it using
[00:15] <PoisonSerpent> oh and one thing that says Microsoft Corp.
[00:15] <sebsebseb> Hi  Loshki
[00:15] <PoisonSerpent> oh, the microsoft corp thing is my wireless usb mouse.. lol
[00:15] <Loshki> hi sebsebseb, long time...
[00:16] <PoisonSerpent> m4dm4x: one device. which is my line in and line out i believe
[00:16] <sjm> trece8: not sure, have you tried it?
[00:16] <thune3_> kermit: i don't have 10.04, you could run "gconftool  --all-entries /apps/nm-applet
[00:16] <m4dm4x> PoisonSerpent: and which profile?
[00:16] <trece8> sjm, tried what? Yes, I tried
[00:16] <PoisonSerpent> m4dm4x: Analog Stereo Duplex
[00:16] <sjm> trece8: and did firefox run?
[00:16] <thune3_> kermit: before and after toggling the switch to see if the configuration shows as one of those
[00:16] <trece8> But When I run firefox, it runs through THIS machine's network, but with the other's machine software
[00:17] <sjm> trece8: yes, I think that's what I saw last I tried it a couple of years ago.
[00:17] <trece8> damn
[00:17] <sjm> trece8:  what are you trying to do?
[00:17] <trece8> Use other computer of mine as a proxy
[00:17] <trece8> Or see it as remote desktop
[00:17] <trece8> Or use it's network, or such
[00:17] <h00k> !enter | trece8
[00:18] <sjm> trece8: just set up squid on that box and use it as an actual proxy
[00:18] <newboon2age_> I need support -- my laptop is stuck  on the plymouth boot splash http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1519312
[00:18] <trece8> I'm lazy, don't know how to set up squid.... I should research it. damn I hate research
[00:18] <m4dm4x> PoisonSerpent:  do you have a live cd to boot with?
[00:18] <sjm> trece8: or set up VNC to run through an ssh tunnel.
[00:19] <PoisonSerpent> m4dm4x: not on me, no.
[00:19] <PoisonSerpent> wait
[00:19] <PoisonSerpent> i might have my live usb
[00:19] <trece8> yes, other thing that needs config. And I have remote access, so I can't just go there and click.
[00:19] <PoisonSerpent> if i havent formatted it
[00:19] <sjm> trece8: VNC across ssh might be quicker
[00:19] <meowbuntu> is it a good idea to force install x86 apps on 64bit os
[00:19] <trece8> Yes, it would but mostly... instructions say... go to the preferences tab (visual) and such
[00:19] <PoisonSerpent> m4dm4x: yes, i still have my live usb
[00:20] <m4dm4x> can you try that real quick, just to make sure its a setting issue?
[00:20] <PoisonSerpent> kk
[00:20] <PoisonSerpent> brb
[00:20] <sjm> trece8: for a pretty good VNC setup search for ssvnc on the web.
[00:20] <t_pol> hey there, i have a big problem, my wifi network manager vanished and i do not know how i can get it back in order to select the wifi netword i want to use, can somebody help me?
[00:20] <m4dm4x> and look to see what is listed in lspci
[00:20] <m4dm4x> and settings
[00:20] <trece8> sjm, too long. I thought it could be quicker with ssh-x
[00:20] <erUSUL> t_pol: alt + f2 -- run nm-applet
[00:21] <vu1kan> t_pol: do you mean the network monitor on your panel?
[00:21] <sjm> trece8: sorry I can't help more.
[00:21] <meowbuntu> is it a good idea to force install x86 apps on 64bit os
[00:21] <meowbuntu> oops
[00:22] <sjm> trece8:
[00:22] <sjm> trece8: one other option depending on how you have remote access.
[00:22] <trece8> making rdesktop there didn't work
[00:22] <sjm> trece8: is set up the remote box as the gateway for your local PC
[00:22] <newboon2age_> Hey everyone, I need support -- my laptop is stuck  on the plymouth boot splash http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1519312
[00:23] <trece8> And I can't restart the other PC, because it has DNS and I would lose the IP
[00:23] <sjm> trece8: how are you connecting to the other pc?
[00:23] <trece8> ssh
[00:24] <sjm> trece8: do you have a VPN connection or just ssh across the open net?
[00:24] <meowbuntu> hello
[00:24] <trece8> ssh
[00:25] <sjm> trece8: do you just want to use a browser or other programs too?
[00:25] <t_pol> vu1kan=> i do not know i used to have an icon on which i could right click to select ther  wifi network i wanted to use, and as for the command nm- applet on the terminal it says well it is already running but i do not have graphical access to it ;-\
[00:25] <trece8> just the browser
[00:25] <Nightrose> hi folks - my computer decided to restart in the middle of an upgrade to 10.04  - i finished the upgrade on command line and now the graphics get garbled after the bootsplash - seems to be an X problem
[00:26] <Nightrose> can anyone help me fix it please? i really need the system to work again :(
[00:26] <Nightrose> maco already helped me reinstall the xorg packages with aptitude
[00:26] <Nightrose> but that didn't help
[00:26] <vu1kan> t_pol: right-click your panel, choose 'add to panel...' and add 'network monitor"
[00:27] <sjm> trece8: you're probably stuck with either something like ssvnc or setting up squid for a proxy.
[00:27] <trece8> damn
[00:27] <trece8> thanks anyway, bye
[00:28] <PoisonSerpent> nope
[00:28] <PoisonSerpent> the live usb didnt pick up my mic either
[00:28] <ZykoticK9> Nightrose, do you currently have an xorg.conf file?  if so, move it to a new name, and try restarting X/GDM.
[00:28] <t_pol> vulkan, i already tried that but unfortunately i do not have the choice
[00:28] <PoisonSerpent> but jokosher picks it up and records with it just fine
[00:28] <kermit> is there a way to keep NetworkManager from telling applications about changes in the network?  some apps are overreacting to minor changes.
[00:28] <Nightrose> ZykoticK9: i had one - moved it - didn't help :(
[00:28] <t_pol> i have no entry named network manager although i am sure it is installed
[00:28] <ZykoticK9> Nightrose, so i have no further ideas ;)  good luck.  what gfx card are you using?
[00:29] <Nightrose> some ati radeon
[00:29] <t_pol> the icon disappeared just today
[00:29] <t_pol> i have never had this problem before
[00:29] <vu1kan> t_pol: do you have the notification area added?
[00:30] <PoisonSerpent> wait
[00:31] <PoisonSerpent> scratch that, jokosher doesnt work with my mic
[00:31] <PoisonSerpent> it just records static
[00:31] <anigma> does ubuntu use a firewall by default?
[00:31] <ZykoticK9> Nightrose, you should find out your model, in a terminal you can run "lspci | grep -i vga" and it should return your gfx card
[00:31] <maco> anigma: enabled by default, yes, but not configured
[00:32] <m4dm4x> PosionSerpent: sorry, i was away, did the live cd work?
[00:32] <maco> anigma: however there are no services listening on any ports, so a port scan would show it the same as if it was drop all
[00:32] <PoisonSerpent> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller - this might work.. maybe?
[00:32] <Nightrose> woah....
[00:32] <Nightrose> i have kdm!
[00:32] <Nightrose> \o/
[00:32] <Nightrose> don't ask why it works now...
[00:32] <Nightrose> i have no idea
[00:32] <FloodBot2> Nightrose: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:32]  * Nightrose tries to log in
[00:32] <anigma> maco: what's the name of the firewall?
[00:33] <anigma> could it be ufw?
[00:33] <t_pol> vulkan i have just added the notification applet, i have no notification area that i can choose, but it does not do anything except an icon to configure my email, and another one to control the volume
[00:33] <t_pol> i am at a loss here
[00:33] <maco> anigma: ufw is a frontend to it, yes
[00:33] <maco> anigma: ufw is simply a wrapper to iptables
[00:33] <anigma> ah
[00:34] <h00k> !firewall | Andy-at-home
[00:34] <t_pol> vu1kan=> i tried to kill the nm-network or sth and restart it but it gives me nothing that i can use graphically
[00:34] <h00k> sorry, Andy-at-home. the person I was trying to tab parted.
[00:34] <vu1kan> t_pol: that's the 'indicator applet', my network monitor is in the 'notification area'
[00:35] <t_pol> vu1kan=> how come when i right click the panel i cannot choose that option?
[00:35] <vu1kan> t_pol: of course my install is an upgrade from 8.04->10.04, so i may have some quirks in gnome
[00:36] <vu1kan> t_pol: you may not have the packages for those applets
[00:42] <vu1kan> t_pol: try <sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome>, that may let you add the network manger
[00:47] <Yossi> i just updated from 9.10 to 10.04 and my mouse pointer disapeared after reboot
[00:47] <rww> t_pol, vu1kan: the network manager applet isn't an actual gnome applet, it's a program that runs in the normal gnome notification area. if it's not automatically running, make sure you have a notification area and run "nm-applet" manually.
[00:48] <Yossi> the mouse works and i can click on things, but the pointer is invisible
[00:48] <darkkrai> forums.droidcore.net
[00:48] <BusterBFMC> Question: what is the other option for pulse audio for adding a headset in Skype?
[00:49] <fumanchu182> has anyone had libgcflashplayer.so crash recently when trying to go fullscreen?
[00:49] <t_pol> vu1kan=> actually everything is already installed, so what you are basically asking me is to uninstall and reinstall everything right?
[00:49] <kostkon> Yossi, for a start, check what theme you are using in system → preferences → appearance. Click on your current theme and press the customize button.
[00:50] <t_pol> yet that does not explain why it disappeared like that overnight
[00:50] <Yossi> then
[00:50] <Yossi> ?
[00:50] <vu1kan> rww: synaptic's description of the package states: "This package contains a systray applet for GNOME's notification area"
[00:51] <vu1kan> t_pol: if you already have the package, i dunno why you can't add the monitor to your panel, i think your issue is beyond my skillset
[00:51] <rww> vu1kan: "systray" is a technically-incorrect term for "notification area"
[00:51] <rww> it is not a right-click-add-to-panel applet.
[00:51] <Wopak> Can anyone possibly know how i can upgrade Feisty 7.04 to 7.10 hence the automatic update page doesnt work?
[00:51] <kostkon> Yossi, the mouse theme tab or whatever its name is
[00:51] <gothenburg> no
[00:51] <Yossi> pointer
[00:52] <zwqg> hi, does anyone know how to make the windows key act like a normal key instead of a modifier (i.e. the old behavior)
[00:52] <bazhang> Wopak, neither of those is still supported
[00:52] <kostkon> Yossi, try selecting a different one
[00:52] <vu1kan> rww: i get that, but even with the notification area added t_pol doesn't have that applet, nor are they able to add the systray independant monitor to the panel
[00:52] <Wopak> bazhang solution? :P
[00:53] <Yossi> didn't fix it
[00:53] <bazhang> Wopak, at this point making a separate home partition and installing a fresh, supported version would be optimal
[00:53] <bazhang> !home | Wopak
[00:53] <kostkon> Yossi, ok :/
[00:53] <rww> Wopak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Feisty , then https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Gutsy , then https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades
[00:54] <juken> Can anyone tell why my microphone isn't working based on these pictures: http://i.imgur.com/OEl2w.png ; http://i.imgur.com/apegR.png ; http://i.imgur.com/Nvcx1.png ; http://i.imgur.com/tmA5L.png
[00:54] <rww> Wopak: personally, I'd recommend a reinstall, but there are the instructions if you feel like engaging in tedium
[00:54] <vu1kan> t_pol: one last package to try would be the gnome-netstatus-applet
[00:55]  * rww sighs
[00:55] <bazhang> Wopak, more recent version (ie Lucid Lynx , 10.04) can achieve that much more readily
[00:55] <Wopak> My main goal is to possibly run an emulator and use windows or dualboot windows
[00:55] <Wopak> hence the ubuntu must remain as it is cous its a company laptop and has to stay with software provided by the company without lateration in the core OS or its settings :(
[00:55] <kostkon> Yossi, there is a possibility that it's related to compiz. you could check your compiz prefs.
[00:56] <Yossi> ok
[00:56] <Wopak> only choice was to possibly do a minor update to 7.10
[00:56] <kostkon> Yossi, if you don't have the ccsm installed already, the package is called "compizconfig-settings-manager"
[00:56] <Wopak> :)
[00:56] <rww> Wopak: upgrading 7.10 to a supported Ubuntu version is nowhere near a "minor update"
[00:56] <Wopak> 7.04 to 7.10 :)
[00:57] <Wopak> i run feisty 7.04
[00:57] <Wopak> to 7.10 is a minor upgrade
[00:57] <Wopak> :D
[00:57] <Yossi> i would rather not use compiz at all
[00:57] <Wopak> xD
[00:57] <FloodBot2> Wopak: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:57] <rww> Wopak: no, it's not. distro upgrades aren't minor, unsupported ones doubly so
[00:57] <sebsebseb> Wopak: you should upgrade to at least 8.04
[00:58] <Yossi> compiz is off, but the problem persists
[00:59] <kostkon> Yossi, ok
[01:00] <Doonz> where do imagemagick binaries reside
[01:01] <fumanchu182> Where can I file an official ubuntu bug for the fullscreen flash issue?
[01:01] <gothenburg> omploader,imageshack,tinypic?
[01:02] <bazhang> gothenburg, do you have a question?
[01:02] <gothenburg> bazhang: no
[01:02] <gothenburg> but fumanchu182 can upload screenshots at those sites
[01:02] <bazhang> gothenburg, then please keep chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:02] <gothenburg> bazhang: MEN HÅLL KÄFTEN DIN JÄVLA JUDE
[01:02] <bazhang> !bugs | fumanchu182
[01:03] <Doonz> lol
[01:03] <fumanchu182> thank you bazhang
[01:04] <zwqg> Does anyone know how I can bind "open terminal" to the windows key WITHOUT other keys? It looks like they changed the behavior of the windows button.
[01:05] <Doonz> where do imagemagick binaries reside or how can i find out. Iinsyalled it using apt-get
[01:06] <Typos_King> Doonz:    whereis FILENAME; or locate FILENAME
[01:06] <bazhang> Doonz, imagemagick is command line only, you are aware?
[01:06] <Doonz> yes im setting up gallery2
[01:07] <Doonz>  but i cant figure out where the binaries ended up
[01:07] <bazhang> Doonz, try which imagemagick
[01:08] <Doonz> didnt show anything
[01:08] <trism> Doonz: they're all in /usr/bin, there is no single binary though, each function has it's own (convert, etc), man imagemagick lists them all
[01:08] <Doonz> ok
[01:09] <Doonz> damint
[01:09] <Doonz> i was just try to go to deep with the path
[01:10] <Yossi> kostkon, rebbot brought back the mouse pointer
[01:10] <Yossi> reboot*
[01:10] <kostkon> Yossi, :)
[01:11] <Yossi> i also have a problem with firefox
[01:11] <Yossi> it closes soon after opening
[01:11] <sebsebseb> Yossi: a bad profile I guess
[01:11] <Yossi> before it can ever draw the inside of the window
[01:12] <Yossi> how do i fix the profile?
[01:12] <cultclassic> Hello all, first time in this channel!
[01:13] <hiexpo> what happened why having to identify ?
[01:13] <sebsebseb> Yossi: the hidden .mozilla folder is your Friefox user data, so bookmarks and such for example
[01:13] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  hello
[01:13] <sebsebseb> Yossi: so if you delete that, its gone,  if you move it some where else, and then re open Firefox you get a new profile. hidden .mozilla folder in home
[01:14] <IdleOne> hiexpo: Channel is experiencing some spam issues
[01:14] <Yossi> i want to preserve my open ttabs
[01:14] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  - figured
[01:14] <sebsebseb> Yossi: the history is in a file in the profile
[01:14] <Yossi> so mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-backup
[01:15] <loopidity> need some help ,the skype vdo test renders only black screen
[01:15] <cellofellow> Yossi: firefox -ProfileManager might help
[01:15] <sebsebseb> Yossi: yeah that will work I guess
[01:15] <kostkon> Yossi, you can create a new profile and then transfer you info from the old to this new profile. more info here http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_Manager
[01:15] <Yossi> thanks
[01:16] <wildbat> qestion i seem that my laptop can't wake up back to ubuntu if there is sshfs mounted before sleep/suspending, any how do i fix that ?
[01:16] <hiexpo> turn sleep off
[01:17] <hiexpo> power management
[01:18] <wildbat> hiexpo, hmmm ~ i want a auto unount the sshfs better
[01:18] <fumanchu182> bazhang, Well I debugged firefox using sync.
[01:18] <cultclassic> is there a graphical tool to see file utilization in Ubuntu, like FileMonger in windoz?
[01:18] <fumanchu182> Apparently Gdk is blowing up.
[01:19] <Yossi> cultclassic, yes
[01:20] <Yossi> disk usage analyzer
[01:21] <cultclassic> oh ty Yossi.... My MythTV box's freespace is dissapearing, and I'm down to 700Megs. I want to know where the space is soing... I'll look that up
[01:22] <AAA> cultclassic  and du -sh on the command line, fyi
[01:22] <IdleOne> cultclassic: it should be in Applications > Accessories
[01:23] <cultclassic> ty AAA and IdleOne. I'll have install it, because I'm not seeing it under Accessories
[01:23] <IdleOne> cultclassic: what version of ubuntu?
[01:23] <cultclassic> but du is there
[01:23] <Cuervo> Are there any good howtos or tips out there about how to improve the battery life on netbooks with lucid?
[01:24] <cultclassic> Well it's MythBuntu, so it's stripped down, I guess
[01:26] <IdleOne> !mount > Guest47011
[01:26] <Loshki> cultclassic: du is all you need, in a pinch. Let me know if you need instructions...
[01:27] <cultclassic> whoa! there are several gigs on mythbackend.logs! so that's where the space went!!!
[01:27] <cultclassic> 16 gigs od logs lol
[01:27] <cultclassic> *of
[01:27] <razz1> what is the best way to get manual duplex in 10.04? One option is gnome-manual-duplex, any other options?
[01:27] <cultclassic> thanks! du was just what I needed!
[01:28] <Loshki> cultclassic: my mythtv logs are all quite small. Have a look through yours before you delete them to see if they're full of some error message you need to be aware of...
[01:29] <SlikerT> hey does anyone know what media player is the best out there to use
[01:30] <cultclassic> yes Loshki there are several of them, like log.0 log,1 etc... it full of "skipped frame blah blah blah"
[01:31] <cultclassic> SlikerT, I like VLC Media Player
[01:31] <cultclassic> available on linux, window, and Mac
[01:31] <Barridus> touchpad doesn't disable while typing, despite having syndaemon in startup apps, and the checkmark ticked in mouse options.  what's up
[01:31] <klandwehr_> I'll second VLC
[01:31] <hiexpo> vlc
[01:31] <sebsebseb> to late
[01:31] <Scunizi> Every time I open Konsole there is a lag and the first line that shows up in the new window is "#updates: command not found"... how do I get rid of that?
[01:31] <sebsebseb> the Freenode anti spam bot got him
[01:31] <sebsebseb> when it shoudn't have
[01:32] <Loshki> cultclassic: might wanna check with #mythtv-users to see if it's significant....
[01:32] <Kalinium> SlikerT: Mplayer + SMplayer
[01:32] <hiexpo> sebsebseb,  - what u mean anti spam got him ?
[01:33] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: idoru  thought he was spamming when he asked his question, so banned him
[01:33] <sebsebseb> sometimes that bot msses up
[01:33] <cultclassic> oooh thanks Loshki. didn't there was a group here.
[01:33] <hiexpo> bummer
[01:33] <rww> sebsebseb: and this is why one shouldn't crosspost to a bunch of channels (which is what I assume they did)
[01:34] <Loshki> cultclassic: last I looked, there were 8669 groups on freenode...
[01:34] <sebsebseb> rww: well looks like another innocent user, got effected by the bot
[01:34] <cultclassic> lol ty This is my first day here...
[01:34] <cultclassic> I joined because of the FLOSS weekly podcast
[01:35] <rww> sebsebseb: and now they have an object lesson in not crossposting ;P
[01:35] <Loshki> rww: Ah, I wondered what triggered the spam-eater. Kinda scary...
[01:35] <rww> Loshki: I'm assuming that's what it is. Or idoru is becoming sentient and killing off anyone who notices. Who knows.
[01:36] <alket> How can I uninstall unity ? I installed from this post http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/accessing-apps-has-never-looked-so-good.html
[01:36] <sebsebseb> rww: well hopefuly marienz  or whoever unbans them later, I guess
[01:36] <alket> please help me Im having lots of troubles: Slow system, Self-closing applications etc
[01:37] <silentx1> Hey, there .. I've Compaq AMD and Nividia VGA CARD installed ubuntu lucid with latest updates .. and I notice there is hanging in the performance ..!! means that it stops for less than one sec and back for ten sec and the stops and like that ..!! please help what is the problem with it ?
[01:37] <wildbat> qestion i seem that my laptop can't wake up back to ubuntu if there is sshfs mounted before sleep/suspending, any how do i auto umount sshfs on suspend?
[01:37] <Barridus> touchpad doesn't disable while typing, despite having syndaemon in startup apps, and the checkmark ticked in mouse options.  what's up
[01:37] <vu1kan> !touchpad | Barridus
[01:39] <danmichel> hello
[01:39] <DarkStar1> That registration require was sprung on me by suprise
[01:40] <cultclassic> hello danmichel
[01:40] <uLinux> hello
[01:40] <cultclassic> hellu uLinux
[01:40] <Claudinux> hi uLinux
[01:40] <danmichel> i cant seem to get my fedora to boot. i tried this http://pastebin.com/YpFSf6qs and this http://pastebin.com/1SBYT0A0
[01:41] <danmichel> hi uLinux
[01:41] <Loshki> cultclassic: got a url for the FLOSS podcast. Google's top hit is for 'Tom's of Maine Floss' :-(
[01:41] <cultclassic> yes Loshki... hold on
[01:41] <wildbat> danmichel, wrong channel ^.^~ #fedora may be ~
[01:42] <Loshki> danmichel: best place to ask is #fedora
[01:42] <danmichel> wildbat, but this is ubuntus grub configuration im editing
[01:42] <danmichel> im dual booting fedora and ubuntu
[01:42] <cultclassic> Loshki, http://twit.tv/floss121
[01:42] <vu1kan> !grub2 | danmichel
[01:42] <Loshki> cultclassic: cool, thanks!
[01:43] <cultclassic> yw
[01:43] <fumanchu182> Launchpad just wigged out on me, no way in hell am I typing that bug in again.
[01:43] <danmichel> can anyone help with my grub config?
[01:43] <uLinux> I'm having a problem... my ssh tunnel works with gSTM but  doesn't work with PuTTY if I try to open a page on Firefox  it won't do nothing
[01:43] <silentx1> I've Compaq Presario CQ60, Ubuntu lucid updated, the problem is that I see the System monitor hanging continuously and this is for the whole system also ... please help where could the problem ??? .. I'm not new user
[01:43] <danmichel> vu1kan, ive read that
[01:43] <vu1kan> danmichel: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[01:44] <dumont> how do I resume a process that I stopped in shell using ctrl+Z ?
[01:45] <DarkStar1> tbh I need grub help too. All of a sudden it refuses to pick up the windows 7 drive (Not that I blame it) do I re-install or is there a way I can get it to pick it up?
[01:45] <Shinydan> hey all. trying to burn a 10.04 DVD using Brasero. Not getting anywhere. d/ling Gnomebaker - how do I make sure the system uses that, rather than Brasero?
[01:45] <Barridus> how do you just create a blank file from CLI
[01:45] <Loshki> dumont: usually by typing 'fg' to foreground the command...
[01:45] <arthurmaciel> hi! is anyone running ubuntu on a samsung n220 netbok?
[01:45] <cultclassic> Loshki, I recommend the entire FLOSS series, each week they feature a new Open Source project...
[01:45] <cellofellow> Barridus: touch filename
[01:45] <wildbat> danmichel, what's wrong witht he booting anyway?
[01:45] <DarkStar1> dumont: It is to my knowledge that when you kill (ctrl-Z) a process it's gone
[01:45] <dumont> Loshki thx
[01:45] <dumont> its not kiling
[01:45] <vintner> anyone successfully run newsleecher in ubuntu?
[01:46] <DarkStar1> dumont: Oh you sent it to the background
[01:46] <Loshki> cultclassic: watching the freenode episode right now. Wow, 53 minutes long...
[01:46] <dumont> ctrl+z, not ctrl+c or x
[01:46] <danmichel> wildbat, thanks
[01:46] <Loshki> dumont: did it come back?
[01:46] <DarkStar1> dumont: Sorry it's 2 am here and I'm not thinking straight
[01:46] <danmichel> vu1kan, thanks
[01:46] <danmichel> i got it
[01:46] <danmichel> rebooting now
[01:46] <dumont> Loshki yes thx
[01:47] <Barridus> vulkan, it seems those instructions haven't been updated for lucid
[01:47] <Barridus> the touchpad link
[01:47] <silentx1> :( no one answer me :(
[01:48] <dumb_dumb> guys anyone installing kannel on ubuntu?
[01:48] <DarkStar1> silentx1: Sorry I did not see your question
[01:49] <Loshki> Shinydan: I think k3b is best for burning, actually....
[01:49] <Loshki> silentx1: sorry, I saw your question but don't know the answer...
[01:49] <silentx1> DarkStar1: Thanks it is this "  I've Compaq Presario CQ60, Ubuntu lucid updated, the problem is that I see the System monitor hanging continuously and this is for the whole system also ... please help where could the problem ??? .. I'm not new user"
[01:49] <Shinydan> Loshki - ok, can dl that.
[01:49] <JCakeC> hello everyone.
[01:49] <vu1kan> Barridus: i don't have a touchpad myself, just thought the link might help ya...mebbe someone else knows?
[01:50] <silentx1> I hope you understand it because i don't know how to say it in English more than this :( .. if not tell me to try to explain
[01:50] <h00k> !anyone | dumb_dumb
[01:50] <Shinydan> ahhh, I see. So you don't actually use the left-click dropdown stuff.
[01:50] <Loshki> Shinydan: remember to use 'image mode' when burning system DVDs, ok?
[01:51] <JCakeC> I have a project for creating an interactive presentation and I need to choose OS. my main concern is: the computer will not be as secure as I would like it to be, so anyone could get to the machine...
[01:51] <JCakeC> I need to lock the main display but prevent the external video output from beign blocked out
[01:51] <JCakeC> can this be possible with linux?
[01:52] <fumanchu182> can someone help me install the dbg packages necessary for firefox?
[01:52] <fumanchu182> to work with gdb?
[01:52] <Shinydan> Loshki - that was my next question. Looting the help files now...
[01:52] <DarkStar1> silentx1: Did this happen after the update because you're the second person I've seen to have this problem
[01:53] <Loshki> JCakeC: to be honest, if someone can get access to the machine physically, they can take it over. I don't think there's any 100% reliable way to secure it...
[01:53] <Loshki> Shinydan: k3b should recognise that it's an ISO and 'do the right thing' automatically...
[01:53] <silentx1> DarkStar1: I always update everything ..
[01:54] <Shinydan> I'm getting a hash error on downloading k3b.
[01:54] <JCakeC> Loshki: I know, but I can "lock" it so the main screen and the system cannot be used
[01:54] <DarkStar1> silentx1: That's true for everyone but It helps if we know what action you performed last before this symptom cropped up
[01:54] <JCakeC> while the external monitor keeps showing the video/interactive animation
[01:55] <Barridus> vulkan, oh well thanks anyhow man
[01:55] <Loshki> JCakeC: Sorry, I dunno how to do that. But you can ask your question here every 15 minutes until someone answers...
[01:56] <Loshki> Shinydan: are you using a dial up modem to download?
[01:56] <Shinydan> No.
[01:56] <silentx1> DarkStar1: ummm I left the labtop in bad temp. and now windows is not working too ..!! but I didn't notice if there is that problem or not ... but I think it is new ..
[01:56] <JCakeC> Loshki: thanks a lot...
[01:57] <Shinydan> Was using Ubuntu Software Centre. Package Manager seems to be working though.
[01:57] <DarkStar1> Ooohh... possible hardware damage can manifest itself in a number of ways
[01:58] <Loshki> Shinydan: it's very rare to get corrupted downloads over broadband. Has this happened before?
[01:58] <Shinydan> No. But I have k3b now.
[01:59] <iflema> JCakeC laptop? set lid shut to blank screen, shut the lid and put a sign "dont touch" and kick the arse of anyone who opens it........
[01:59] <Loshki> Shinydan: ok, crank it up, and open the ISO file inside k3b. You should get a menu for burning...
[01:59] <DarkStar1> silentx1: when you got back had the laptop reset?
[01:59] <Shinydan> Loshki: No optical drive found. K3b did not find any optical device in your system. Solution: Make sure HAL daemon is running, it is used by K3b for finding devices.
[02:00] <silentx1> DarkStar1: I'm going to do that .. you're reading my thoughts .. Then I'll back here again if the problem persists ..
[02:00] <Loshki> Shinydan: out of the frying pan... Did brasero find the drive?
[02:00] <JCakeC> iflema: I will not be there for the whole presentation runtime... so that is not a fair solution (believe me I thought of it as a last resort)
[02:00] <DarkStar1> silentx1: Ok.. Good luck
[02:01] <JCakeC> iflema: I also thought of getting a desktop and taking out the monitor so they can just see the box there...
[02:01] <silentx1> DarkStar1: Thanks you too .. BBye ..
[02:01] <JCakeC> but I wan thinking a more elegant way... locking the computer. The problem is that if I lock it out, all monitors go blank...
[02:01] <Shinydan> Loshki - no.
[02:02] <melkor> if I run sudo shutdown now my computer hangs at shutdown, if I use the gnome panel it shuts down fine.
[02:02] <JCakeC> I know it's the way it sould be, but in this case... I need it to behave differently... :S
[02:02] <Loshki> JCakeC: there are releases called 'kiosk' distributions. One of those might be what you need...
[02:02] <Shinydan> Nautilus does, fwiw.
[02:02] <aztek[tum]> any ideas on temp monitoring a power supply
[02:02] <Loshki> Shinydan: you may have a hardware problem. Did this drive ever work?
[02:02] <Shinydan> yes.
[02:02] <JCakeC> loshki: I'll go look for them right now...
[02:02] <Shinydan> but it was a while back.
[02:03] <DarkStar1> melkor: that's odd. what is the command you're using to shutdown?
[02:03] <melkor> sudo shutdown now
[02:03] <vintner> does anyone know of an alternative to newsleecher that runs on nix?
[02:03] <melkor> DarkStar1: I've tried -h also.
[02:03] <DarkStar1> melkor: there are options to go with that
[02:04] <Loshki> Shinydan: open a terminal, and type: dmesg | egrep -i cd-rom
[02:04] <DarkStar1> melkor: hang on a sec let me load the options
[02:04] <Loshki> Shinydan: do you get any output?
[02:04] <DarkStar1> melkor: Can never remember options that go with needless CLI commands :D
[02:05] <iflema> JCakeC New profile for the presentation, lock it right down
[02:05] <Shinydan> Loshki - yes.
[02:05] <Loshki> Shinydan: can you paste the output to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com please
[02:05] <melkor> DarkStar1: its pretty nice, because I can set it to d/load something and then have it shutdown it 2 hours.  or 15 minutes, but it hangs when I do it now.
[02:06] <JCakeC> iflema: but when I lock them the video outputs are blacked out (and I need the 2nd display to always be showing the interactive presentation)
[02:06] <DarkStar1> melkor: where does the process hang?
[02:06] <Shinydan> Loshki: done
[02:06] <melkor> DarkStar1: at the splash screen, it goes through the dots a couple of times and then hangs.
[02:06] <Loshki> Shinydan: what was the url it gave you :-)
[02:06] <melkor> DarkStar1: I'm not sure where the error would be log'd either, maybe an older sys.log that the one dmesg shows?
[02:06] <Shinydan> oh, whoops
[02:07] <Shinydan> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/JD3QnagM
[02:07] <iflema> JCakeC are you worried it will be stopped? bios boot password and even encrypted HD with a profile that cant do basically anything
[02:07] <starnostar_> anyone know if its possible to force lan traffic through eth0 and internet traffic through wlan0?
[02:08] <iflema> JCakeC im pretty sure the function you after does not exist.... Have you seen this used else where?
[02:08] <melkor> starnostar_: whats the difference?
[02:08] <Loshki> Shinydan: ok that's good, it means the kernel detected your sony dvd-rw at /dev/sr0. Next, try running 'sudo eject /dev/sr0'. Does the dvd door open?
[02:08] <d0x> Hi i'm upgrading to 10.04 today and i wan't to encrypt my whole disk now. Does anyone have a good howto for a new installation?
[02:08] <synth> Has anyone attempted to find appropriate patches to compile fglrx from ATI's 9.3 driver download on Ubuntu 10.04? It's historically been patched by hand for .29 kernel and higher because of various changes in the driver interfaces... but 10.04 now runs 2.6.32 which I cant find patches against. I've searched the web for days, please anyone with insight lend a hand? the reason for 9.3 is because my ATI is an X300, support was dropped
[02:08] <synth>  afterwards. free driver is horrible
[02:08] <DarkStar1> melkor: I'm not an expert log reader or Linux user yet but, have you tried using the -P option and seeing if the system does things differently?
[02:08] <JCakeC> iflema: I'm worried they mess around with the system. I can script it to prevent shutdown (just restart) and make it start the presentation again on boot)
[02:08] <starnostar_> i need to monitor my bandwidth and im having a heck of a time finding something like vnstat that seperates the two, thought it might be easier to just split the connections up
[02:08] <melkor> DarkStar1: I could try it.
[02:09] <iflema> JCakeC if the profile cant reboot + the rest your safe
[02:09] <Shinydan> Loshki - no, it didn't.
[02:09] <Loshki> Shinydan: any error message?
[02:09] <melkor> starnostar_: does each one have its own ip address?
[02:09] <JCakeC> iflema: that's my concern, and that's why I'm looking on Linux... as MS and MAC can't be easily hacked
[02:09] <DarkStar1> melkor: Reason I suggest this is because the system can behave however it like with the -h option
[02:09] <Shinydan> Loshki - no error message.
[02:09] <starnostar_> i can give each its own, through my router, my wifi isnt even on right now
[02:09] <Loshki> Shinydan: ok, please run 'sudo hdparm -I /dev/sr0' and pastebin the output...
[02:10] <JCakeC> iflema: I'll try to test all possible scenarios then...
[02:10] <iflema> JCakeC bios password use a livecd
[02:10] <Loshki> starnostar_: what about one of these: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu-users.html
[02:10] <JCakeC> iflema: custom built livecd... hmmm... sounds interesting
[02:10] <Shinydan> Loshki: done, same url
[02:11] <melkor> starnostar_: I know there are some linux tools for that, though there might be some nice gtk versions too.  You could try #debian or #linux if you don't get any answers here.
[02:11] <starnostar_> tried ALL of those, still cant figure out a way to seperate the two streams of data
[02:11] <DarkStar1> starnostar_: What you're trying to do is akin to what a router does, but it requires giving each interface is own seperate address and subnet
[02:11] <Shinydan> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/JD3QnagM
[02:11] <iflema> JCakeC maybe... hackety hackety..... a friend perhaps... :)
[02:11] <Loshki> Shinydan: are you sure? I get the same (old) output when I refresh the page?
[02:12] <starnostar_> most of them are realtime and dont log traffic, im on a cap and have a lot of data moving around
[02:12] <JCakeC> iflema: yeah... when system can't do what you want, stick to procedures, right?
[02:12] <Shinydan> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/Vs9jzS7N apologies.
[02:12] <smallfoot-> ATI, Intel and Nouveau supports kernel mode-setting, does VESA / VGA / default fallback driver support KMS?
[02:12] <smallfoot-> does VirtualBox support kernel-mode setting in Ubuntu?
[02:13] <melkor> smallfoot-: to your first question I am going to guess no.
[02:13] <DarkStar1> starnostar_: MAnually assign a subnet IP address to the interface you need to route Lan traffic
[02:13] <Niglop> how can I broadcast a radio station on linux
[02:13] <starnostar_> im not a networking guru, does it matter which subnet and do i do this through the router or the network preferences?
[02:14] <smallfoot-> someone needs make a list of what cards are support by KMS
[02:14] <melkor> smallfoot-: there probably is one for the different vendors.
[02:14] <starnostar_> and do i have to assign the same subnet to the other lan computers
[02:14] <iflema> JCakeC its possible, but for one presentation....
[02:14] <smallfoot-> melkor, well should be a list of vendors supported by KMS
[02:14] <Loshki> Shinydan: ooh, that's *not* what the output is supposed to look like. At all. You could try rebooting, making sure you power down between reboots so the hardware gets a full reset. If it still doesn't work, I'd suspect the drive is broken...
[02:15] <Shinydan> Right. I'll be back shortly.
[02:15] <Niglop> how can I broadcast a radio station on linux
[02:15] <starnostar_> what would be even better is if i could get vnstat to ignore lan traffic
[02:15] <kostkon> Niglop, you can use icecast
[02:15] <melkor> Niglop: to you have a transmitter?
[02:15] <DarkStar1> starnostar_: YEs. If an address is part of a subnet it would need to go through a gateway to contact any addresses outside the subnet
[02:15] <Niglop> let me download one, which one is least bandwidth consuming
[02:16] <Niglop> i am capped ;(
[02:16] <melkor> starnostar_: more than likely you are using one interface.
[02:16] <spursncowboys> anybody have any luck using rhythmbox, banshee, or amarok for IPOD Touch?
[02:16] <JCakeC> iflema: well, I'd like to do it as a challenge... and it's an interactive presentation (camera, IR camera, laser, multitouch)... and the main screen will hold the configuration screen for the app, so it's worth the try just for 1 presentation
[02:16] <Niglop> kostkon>  melkor  couldnt find package transmitter or icecast
[02:17] <melkor> Niglop: I meant the hardware, literally a transmitter.
[02:17] <melkor> Niglop: You have music and you want to start an internet radio station?
[02:17] <Niglop> i mean an online radio not like a radio radio
[02:17] <Niglop> l0l
[02:17] <Niglop> yeah melkor
[02:18] <iflema> JCakeC sounds like fun.... good luck
[02:18] <Adem> greetings Dr_Willis
[02:18] <JCakeC> iflema: thanks... I'll need it...
[02:18] <Niglop> yeah melkor i have music and want to play it on an internet radio station
[02:18] <melkor> Niglop: where did you look for icecast.  You could google it.
[02:19] <Niglop> i tried apt-get in terminal melkor
[02:19] <Shinydan> back. Loshki, I have a new pastebin addy for you if you don't mind?
[02:19] <thune3_> starnostar_: for "totals" monitoring /proc/net/dev has totals since boot, and ifstat can give you a realtime view of each interface.
[02:19] <Loshki> Shinydan: type away!
[02:19] <Shinydan> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/bxA8tzzY
[02:19] <DarkStar1> starnostar_: still here?
[02:19] <starnostar_> ya
[02:20] <HaPK_PerCar> hi people
[02:20] <starnostar_> but can ifstat differentiate between lan traffic and internet traffic?
[02:20] <Loshki> Shinydan: excellent. That's what the output *should* look like. So try k3b again...
[02:20] <kostkon> Niglop, it's "icecast2"
[02:20] <melkor> Niglop: google it, then check out Synaptic, icecast server finds some stuff, but you might want to read a little before you install.
[02:20] <HaPK_PerCar> Does someone knows of an AV that scans for virus in NTFS partittions, and clens them?
[02:20] <Niglop> i downloaded the tarball frm google, let me unzip 1 sec
[02:21] <melkor> Niglop: icecast2 is in the repos.
[02:21] <DarkStar1> starnostar_: (it's 2am here and I'm not fully complete upstairs so bear with me here) you give each of your interface addresses that belong to separate subnets and the rest of the job need to be done at your routing station
[02:21] <kostkon> Niglop, or just give sudo apt-get install icecast2
[02:21] <Niglop> ok 1 sec koshie
[02:21] <lickwid> Hi all, I'm having a bit of trouble booting 10.04 if anyone's free to help.
[02:21] <Niglop> kostkon> *
[02:21] <HaPK_PerCar> lickwid, what the problem exactly?
[02:21] <sebsebseb> lickwid: Whats the exact problem?
[02:21] <starnostar_> so how do i change the subnet, im in network connections now
[02:21] <Shinydan> Loshki: Looks like you've cracked it for me. K3b is doing the checksum now...
[02:22] <lickwid> I'm dual-booting Windows 7 and 10.04 - when I choose 10.04 at the GRUB menu, about 75% of the time I just get a blinking cursor afterwards.
[02:22] <DarkStar1> starnostar_: assuming you don't want the LAN traffic interface contacting the outside world, you would have to set that at it's gateway (which would be your router in this case)
[02:22] <Niglop> kostkon>  i got icecast 2, now what?
[02:22] <Loshki> Shinydan: well, it's not completely done until the burn completes, and the verification passes, but this is major progress...
[02:22] <Shinydan> *nods*
[02:22] <kostkon> Niglop, you can follow this guide for example http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_webradio_with_icecast2_ices2
[02:22] <HaPK_PerCar> lickwid, maybe you'll have to reinstall the GRUB
[02:22] <iflema> JCakeC make a  transparent screensaver
[02:22] <Niglop> sec
[02:22] <lickwid> HaPK_PerCar, sebsebseb - more details here: http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1519632
[02:22] <kostkon> Niglop, to setup your server
[02:22] <DarkStar1> starnostar_: so your LAN interface device should only be seeing packet traffic from the LAN
[02:22] <lickwid> I've tried reinstalling GRUB already.
[02:23] <NetersLandreau> i bought a new tv last night and am trying to hook up my computer via hdmi.. when i try to connect my tv as a monitor, it is not detected.. vga works fine at the office.. what do i need to do?
[02:23] <DarkStar1> starnostar_: Hope that helps you draw a picture in your head?
[02:23] <JCakeC> iflema: interesting approach...
[02:23] <starnostar_> somewhat...
[02:23] <starnostar_> looking through my router config page now
[02:24] <iflema> JCakeC but is activated the password promt would be visable....
[02:24] <JCakeC> but not on both screens...
[02:25] <Loshki> NetersLandreau: try also asking on #mythtv-users. Those guys know tons about connecting PCs to TVs...
[02:25] <HaPK_PerCar> lickwid, this may sound a bit extreme, but maybe you'll have to use anothe booter, like lilo
[02:25] <smallfoot-> can i easily switch between nvidia-glx and nouveau?
[02:25] <NetersLandreau> thx Loshki :)
[02:25] <HaPK_PerCar> lickwid, I can't help you more, sorry
[02:25] <lickwid> HaPK_PerCar, how would I replace the GRUB with lilo?
[02:26] <DarkStar1> starnostar_: Never tried such a thing with a routing device, but it should have something to do with either your routing table or NAT (or both) and set the DCHP server to assign the addresses correctly. This is assuming your router is capable ofc.
[02:26] <sebsebseb> lickwid: ok yeah just as I thought
[02:26] <sebsebseb> lickwid: Plymouth issue or something
[02:26] <HaPK_PerCar> HaPK_PerCar, I don't really know, sorry
[02:26] <Shinydan> Loshki: sudo chown Loshko ~/beer
[02:26] <digimer> Anyone here familiar with changing a DVD-RW's region code? (ubuntu 10.04 x86_64)
[02:26] <starnostar_> dgl-4500 /w 1.15 firmware
[02:26] <Loshki> Shinydan: did it finish?
[02:26] <HaPK_PerCar> Does someone knows of an AV that scans for virus in NTFS partittions, and clens them?
[02:26] <lickwid> sebsebseb - yeah, when it loads it comes up with something about plymouth and a kill command?
[02:26] <sebsebseb> lickwid: basically  Ubuntu 10.04 uses a new boot up and also for shut down called Plymouth,  its great in Mandriva, its good in Fedora I guess,  well last time I tried Fedora was Fedora 11.  and it sucks in Ubuntu 10.04  for loads of people with propritary Nivida or ATI drivers
[02:26] <JCakeC> iflema: I found how to turn the black screen screensaver to transparent with compiz... I'll try it later... thanks.
[02:27] <Loshki> !virus | HaPK_PerCar
[02:27] <Shinydan> Loshki: Yes it did. Thank you!
[02:27] <sebsebseb> lickwid: well Plymouth isn't new, but it is for Ubuntu
[02:27] <Loshki> Shinydan: excellent. Brewskis all round...!
[02:27] <lickwid> sebsebseb: I've removed the proprietary drivers though, and i'm still having the same problem?
[02:27] <Shinydan> 8)
[02:27] <sebsebseb> lickwid: with a propritary driver installed for some of us,  Plymouth will look really odd
[02:27] <starnostar_> would it be possible to use another router for lan traffic only, i have another one lying around somewhere, if i cant find it...is there a "cheaper than a router" piece of hardware that does lan only traffic?
[02:28] <sebsebseb> lickwid: right well even with no propritary driver installed on the other computer, boot up wasn't working as good as it should, sometiems
[02:28] <sebsebseb> lickwid: your issue is a bit differnet though
[02:28] <Bravewolf> hi. how can I setup the default page format for print to pdf or ps included in every gnome application?
[02:28] <sebsebseb> lickwid: so problems straight afater a clean install?
[02:28] <jbwiv_> guys, I have a dvd drive I recently installed. It shows up as /dev/sr0. I can mount it as my default user (i.e., not root), but for some reason it mounts it as user id 4294967295, and my user can't read it. Any idea how to fix this?
[02:28] <lickwid> sebsebseb: indeed.
[02:29] <Loshki> starnostar_: I can't believe there isn't a traffic monitor that won't segregate traffic by interface. Are you *sure* there isn't one?
[02:29] <Bravewolf> I want to use A4, but currently the setup is US letter.
[02:29] <sebsebseb> lickwid: Did you check your ISO? No I guess not, well if you still got it you can.  Good idea to, so you know that your CD is fine,  unless a bad burn.
[02:29] <sebsebseb> lickwid: however thats not really to do with your issue as such I guess
[02:29] <DarkStar1> starnostar_: It would simplify your job massively
[02:29] <jbwiv_> oddly, it also shows up as /dev/scd0
[02:29] <kostkon> Niglop, you can use darkice (and it has a gui, darksnow) instead of ices2. just make sure that you change the device from "/dev/dsp" to "default" in its config file to make it work with pulseaudio.
[02:30] <lickwid> sebsebseb: how would i go about checking it?
[02:30] <arthurmaciel> see you, guys
[02:30] <Niglop> sec kostkon  let me etry
[02:30] <sebsebseb> lickwid: however if your CD isn't burnt properly, and you install for it, you could get problems, but I don't think this is why you have a problem
[02:30] <lickwid> can't hurt to check anyway
[02:30] <sebsebseb> lickwid: indeed
[02:30] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | lickwid
[02:30] <sebsebseb> !hashes
[02:31] <Niglop> kostkon>  do i need to install darkice darksnow and pulseaudio seperate?
[02:31] <jbwiv_> file perms on /dev/sr0 look like brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2010-06-28 21:30 /dev/sr0
[02:31] <kostkon> Niglop, you only need to install darksnow and darkice.
[02:31] <Niglop> kk sec
[02:31] <sebsebseb> lickwid: and graphic cards will sometimes be odd with Ubuntu depending on which card it is, and ATI graphics cards don't tend to work that well with Ubuntu
[02:31] <kostkon> Niglop, they are small sized packages, nothing special
[02:32] <Niglop> kk ive installed them now what
[02:32] <Niglop> DarkIce 0.19 live audio streamer, http://darkice.tyrell.hu/
[02:32] <Niglop> Copyright (c) 2000-2007, Tyrell Hungary, http://tyrell.hu/
[02:32] <Niglop> Using config file: /etc/darkice.cfg
[02:32] <Niglop> DarkIce: DarkIce.cpp:146: no section [general] in config [0]
[02:32] <FloodBot3> Niglop: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:32] <lickwid> sebsebseb: I'm using an Nvidia card
[02:32] <Agu10> hola
[02:32] <sebsebseb> lickwid: ok same here,  another distro on here now though, but other computer with Ubuntu is also Nivida
[02:33] <sebsebseb> !es | Agu10
[02:33] <Agu10> hey, I have a problem when suspending my laptop in ubuntu
[02:33] <sebsebseb> lickwid: when you have the propritary Nivida driver installed what happens then?
[02:33] <kostkon> Niglop, you need to modify the darkice config file
[02:33] <Niglop> kk sec
[02:34] <Loshki> jbwiv: 4294967295 is user 'nobody' I think. It usually happens when you mount a filesystem that doesn't have unix style permissions. Is it a FAT filesystem or some such?
[02:34] <Niglop> cant find no /etc/darkice.cng kostkon
[02:34] <Niglop> cfg*
[02:34] <lickwid> sebsebseb: while booting?
[02:34] <sebsebseb> lickwid: yes
[02:34] <sebsebseb> lickwid: or shut down
[02:34] <kostkon> Niglop, also, you need to install the pulseaudio volume control utility. it will allow you to send the audio coming out of your media app to darkice
[02:34] <lickwid> the exact same thing - blinking cursor on boot.
[02:35] <sebsebseb> lickwid: oh so the boot up animation doesn't even show
[02:35] <sebsebseb> ?
[02:35] <Niglop> kk i already got pulseaudio kostkon
[02:35]  * DarkStar1 waves goodnight to everyone
[02:35] <the123> guys, I need to record the sound coming out of my computer...specifically this video ( http://www.argoatv.com/recreational/entry.aspx?x=wRmZMkYwJlo%3d# ) audiorecorder doesnt seem to be working..help me plz
[02:35] <lickwid> quite literally immediately after choosing ubuntu from the GRUB OS list i'll get a black screen with a grey blinking cursor in the top left hand corner.
[02:35] <kostkon> Niglop, just c/p and modify the example cfg file from here /usr/share/doc/darkice/examples/darkice.cfg
[02:35] <the123> I also can't download it..for some reason when I do..it gives me another video
[02:35] <the123> halp me plz
[02:36] <Niglop> sec
[02:36] <lickwid> i have to restart quite a few times to have a chance of booting properly.
[02:36] <sebsebseb> lickwid: ok I think I have seen that on the other computer or something similar, anyway does it ever boot up, and show you the log in screen?
[02:36] <kostkon> Niglop, then start darkice like this:  darkice -c ~/mydarkice.cfg
[02:36] <wildbat> compiling problem, "checking for X... no      configure: error: X development files not found." which lib do i need to install ?
[02:37] <sebsebseb> lickwid: Newer is not always better, so with Ubuntu it depends on the user and their hardware.   As a result it could be a great idea for you to try 9.10 and maybe even 8.04.
[02:37] <lickwid> sebsebseb: it does boot correctly occasionally. usually flashes up something about plymouth and a kill command, not entirely sure what it says though.
[02:37] <sebsebseb> lickwid: you could also try to disable plymouth well kind of
[02:37] <Random832> wildbat: xlibs-dev or some such
[02:37] <jbwiv_> guys, I have a dvd drive I recently installed. It shows up as /dev/sr0. I can mount it as my default user (i.e., not root), but for some reason it mounts it as user id 4294967295, and my user can't read it. Any idea how to fix this?
[02:37] <sebsebseb> lickwid: well its not working properly anyway
[02:37] <Loshki> jbwiv: 4294967295 is user 'nobody' I think. It usually happens when you mount a filesystem that doesn't have unix style permissions. Is it a FAT filesystem or some such?
[02:37] <Random832> Loshki: uh, i thought nobody was 65534
[02:37] <the123> ??
[02:38] <sebsebseb> lickwid: basically you get a text boot instead,  and it will show black on the screen for a while, before the log in screen loads,  well if it works for you
[02:38] <Random832> jbwiv_: is this on one specific disk or on everything?
[02:38] <sebsebseb> lickwid: boot up is quite ugly  for Ubuntu 10.04 though really, when Plymouth doesn't work, compared to previous versions
[02:38] <Loshki> Random832: I did too, but on a 64 bit machine, I wonder if it isn't 4294967295 ?
[02:38] <jbwiv_> Random832, let me check
[02:38] <lickwid> sebsebseb: it's worth a try, how do i go about that?
[02:39] <jbwiv_> Loshki, it's a DVD my brother created from old VCR tapes. Not sure what type of fs
[02:39] <wildbat> Random832, no such package :<
[02:39] <sebsebseb> lickwid: if you want a nicer boot up that will probably work no problem, and a version that isn't that old, and still supported untill the end of April next year. well Ubuntu 9.10
[02:39] <Random832> Loshki: it has nothing to do with the number of bits available - uids have been 32 bits for like forever
[02:39] <sebsebseb> lickwid: anyway right this Plymouth fix thing
[02:39] <Random832> type 'id nobody' to check
[02:39] <sebsebseb> lickwid: logged into Ubuntu now yeah?
[02:40] <lickwid> yeah
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> To Whomever it was trying to doload that Amphibious 6 Wheel Vehicle Video -  the 'DownloadHelper' Extension for firefox let me download it..
[02:40] <sebsebseb> lickwid: open the terminal and  well your going to edit a config file and that
[02:40] <jbwiv_> Random832, looks like it's just this cd. Another cd I have works fine
[02:40] <Royall> Is there an easy way to get a browser or computer to autocorrect things like website.prg (to .org) for convenience?
[02:40] <Agu10> hello
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> http://www.argoatv.com/_uploads/entrypages/videos/266_ArgoinActionODGandCloserLRv1.flv and http://www.argoatv.com/_uploads/entrypages/videos/266_Ent-ArgoAdventureHRv1.flv
[02:40] <Loshki> Random832: sorry, obviously I'm talking through my hat...
[02:40] <Random832> jbwiv_: probably that cd has somehow broken rockridge extensions
[02:41] <lickwid> sebsebseb: okay
[02:41] <jbwiv_> Random832, even dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/tmp/my.iso and mounting via loop shows and empty file system
[02:41] <jbwiv_> Random832, but the darned thing works under windows
[02:41] <imyousuf> hi
[02:41] <Random832> jbwiv_: try mounting with -o norock and see if the uid still happens
[02:41] <Agu10> I have a problem when suspending
[02:41] <sebsebseb> lickwid: you know how to install and remove programs using terminal yeah?
[02:41] <jbwiv_> Random832, k, one sec
[02:41] <lickwid> yeah i do
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> !suspend
[02:42] <sebsebseb> lickwid: I use purge instead of remove though when it comes to removing packages, since that will get rid of some config files as well
[02:42] <imyousuf> How can I check the Ubuntu One log in Jaunty? I am pressing Connect but it is not connecting :(, so I want to check what is wrong
[02:42] <bcurtiswx3> hi all, so I have been building empathy from source, but now I want to go back to using the ubuntu packages.  What do I need to do?
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> Agu10:  if no one in here can help. You may want to check the Ubuntu forums for your exact machine make/model and see if others have similer issues.
[02:42] <sebsebseb> lickwid: and to edit a file I would use gksudo gedit
[02:42] <lickwid> sebsebseb: that's what i tend to do :)
[02:42] <sebsebseb> lickwid: you shoudn't use sudo on a graphical app.  ok you know this stuff, just checking, since your new
[02:43] <jbwiv_> Random832, interesting. that seems to allow me to read it
[02:43] <Agu10> when I use the suspend function, it goes into suspended mode, but then when I press the power button, to restore, it reboots
[02:43] <Agu10> and I loose the data
[02:43] <sebsebseb> lickwid: remove plymouth-label, plymouth-theme-ubuntu-{logo,text}, and plymouth-x11; then remove "splash" from /etc/default/grub and do sudo update-grub
[02:44] <jbwiv_> Random832, why would that be? when it initially mounts, is it trying to do something that's not supported? Interesting to note all file names are lowercase now
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> sebsebseb:  ive had that 'trick' work on one box for me.. on other box. it sort of works.. but i cant get to the consoles. :) but that may be more of a nvidia driver issue.
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> sebsebseb:  heres a pastebin of my notes, and script i used to sort of automate it. - <  pastebinit  remove-plymouth.sh
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> http://pastebin.com/cWpQFiZE
[02:45] <jbwiv_> Random832, and if I do it this way, do I have the potential to lose any data? Is it safer to try to copy on Windows?
[02:45] <Big_D_271> can somebody help... i cannot get my screensaver to start, or have the monitor turn off after 60mins!
[02:45] <lickwid> sebsebseb: okay, that's that sorted.
[02:45] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis: on our other computer well,  uhmm  boot up uhmm may show stuff or may just be black and log in screen, as for shut down uhmm.  it shows a weird graphic or something
[02:46] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis: 10.04 would have been great after my customziing if it wasn't for their badly done Plymouth, and Grub 2 uh and GDM 2 uh.
[02:46] <flan_suse> Anyone know how to restore and/or boot into Express Gate on ASUS laptops/netbooks after installing Ubuntu? The quick boot button no longer works, and there is no option to boot into Express Gate anymore, even though the 11 GB FAT partition still exists.
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> sebsebseb:  Heh. Yea.   the Ghost of Plymouth is still haunting us.
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> sebsebseb:  i have really no issues with grub2. and gdm2 well - i dont worry about themes.
[02:46] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis: Plymouth is done awesomely in Mandriva :)   nice grpahical boot, hit esc for text boot
[02:47] <eroscher> hello, i've found that gnome DIsk Utility let's you make LUKS partitions
[02:47] <eroscher> I want to find how to create lvms over this partition
[02:47] <eroscher> i've installed lvm2 pkg
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> sebsebseb:  yes. it definatly needs work in ubuntu.  Grub2 should also show menu on escape. or just al2ways show it. not hide it   like it wants to defauilt to
[02:47] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis: I don't care that much about themes, but I don't like black and white much on the computer, black background white text or whatever
[02:47] <sebsebseb> lickwid: now your meant to re boot, your computer, and try  it, and then tell me how that went :D
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> sebsebseb:  im actually suprised theres not some fancy eyecandy grub wallpaper by default
[02:48] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis: yeah other distros do it
[02:48] <lickwid> okay, brb.
[02:48] <flan_suse> Dr_Willis, Mint 9's Grub2 has the Mint 9 colors and wallpaper by default on the Grub menu.
[02:48] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis: well theres blurg or whatever its called,  in development at the moment, that will do proper themes, based on Grub 2 yeah
[02:48] <nadan> can't get fglrx to work.  sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx  then aticonfig --initial -f reboot safe graphics mode.
[02:49] <eroscher> but i've been searching over google for a while and i didnt found how to create lvms
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> flan_suse:  ive set up similer things in ubuntu. its not too hard to do. but i guess its another layer of things to break in the end. :)
[02:49] <nadan> segmentation fault on glxgears, since its not enabled.  lucid up to date.
[02:49] <eroscher> i'm trying to do it over the console
[02:49] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis: and then Nivida or ATI drivers can really mess up Plymouth as well uh.  So I wonder what 10.10 will be like, when it comes to this stuff.
[02:49] <flan_suse> sebsebseb, what makes me nervous is once GDM and Grub become easily themeable again, they might push out a newer version of both that goes back to square one. (Just like with the new GDM and Grub2 we are currently on...)
[02:49] <eroscher> but i dont know what to issue there
[02:50] <sebsebseb> flan_suse: yeah the new GDM 2 sucks, and  most of us were rather fine with the old Grub
[02:50] <flan_suse> sebsebseb, I'm with you there as well.
[02:50] <Big_D_271> anyone?  ... I am getting frustrated that I cannot have the screen go off after 60 mintues! ... I have nvidia card, with twinview running ... Please Help Me :D
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> Theres more to 'grub2' feature wise then what most people notice. It needed work done to set the foundation for its ussage for the next generation of pcs :)
[02:50] <thune3_> imyousuf: ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log
[02:50] <flan_suse> sebsebseb, GNOME-looks.org and Bisigi are moot when it comes to login themes.
[02:51] <sebsebseb> flan_suse: one reason I use Mandriva on here :D  altough its  old KDM or whatever instead of GDM since the way they did it was a bit uhmm.  and yeah it came with old Grub so :D  and I am waiting for a delayed next version still
[02:51] <imyousuf> thanks thune3_
[02:51] <sebsebseb> flan_suse: yep the old GDM themes won't work with GDM 2
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> Big_D_271:  all i can say is that it seems to work here for me on my 8800gtsxxx
[02:51] <b2bwild> does Pen Tablets work on Ubuntu Linux?
[02:51] <nadan> i have a touch screen tx2z it works.
[02:51] <Big_D_271> Dr_Willis are you using stock Gnome-screensaver?
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> Big_D_271:  pretty much. I tend to just use the 'blank screen' one. i come back after a while and my screen is powerd down.
[02:52] <Random832> jbwiv_: "norock" turns off unix extensions - and the unix extensions apparently included a strange uid ownership of files
[02:52] <Random832> you probably won't lose any data, but if you're worried just mount it normally and copy as root
[02:52] <eroscher> anyone knows how to create lvm volumes from the console?
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> Big_D_271:  some video players and other apps can disable it if they are running.
[02:52] <eroscher> or maybe a lvm tool
[02:52] <eroscher> ???
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> !lvm
[02:52] <jbwiv_> Random832, gotcha. Thanks!
[02:53] <Big_D_271> Dr_Willis .. mine used to do that.. but not any more... I can reboot, and not start anything and the screen will stay on all day!
[02:53] <Big_D_271> anyone else have ideas?
[02:53] <Big_D_271> I cannot find any solutions in the forumns
[02:53] <lickwid> sebsebseb: nothing :(
[02:53] <sebsebseb> flan_suse: I kind of regret not putting  9.04 back on the other computer in Januarey (since the hard disk got re done, since someone got a virus in XP or whatever)  however I don't use that computer that much anyway,  and my brothers don't seem to care much about how Ubuntu looks.
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> Other then double checking the powersaver/screensaver settings.. not really Big_D_271 .
[02:53] <sebsebseb> lickwid: no luck?
[02:53] <lickwid> unfortunately not
[02:54] <sebsebseb> lickwid: ok
[02:54] <Random832> with extensions turned off you'll also get only 8.3 character filenames
[02:54] <sebsebseb> lickwid: well Dr_Willis  flan_suse and me, were just talking about it,  how there are some issues with 10.04
[02:54] <eroscher> Dr_Willis, why !lvm??? i need it to put even the swap on a luks partition
[02:54] <Big_D_271> Dr_Willis I have checked and tripple checked... they all are on, I even installed "brightside" which allows me to activate the screensaver, or screen off, but  the screen doesn't stay sleepling.
[02:54] <eroscher> :S
[02:54] <Random832> though you'll see a trans.tbl file giving the full ones somewhere
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> eroscher:  that bot factoid is the whole extent of my LVM/raid knowledge..
[02:54] <flan_suse> sebsebseb, GDM and Grub2 are upstream decisions though.
[02:54] <civpro> im wanting to do a server cluster starting with 120 servers all from the same datacenter, any recommendation to what software to use for this
[02:54] <sebsebseb> flan_suse: indeed
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> eroscher:  you did read the bots factoid/urls ?
[02:55] <eroscher> err i nope
[02:55] <civpro> they are all gigabit lines also
[02:55] <sebsebseb> flan_suse: however Ubuntu didn't have to use them, and its not like they care that much about upstream Gnome anyway for example, I mean all this Gnome changing they have been doing since 9.04
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> sebsebseb:  you can install the old GDM if you want to. At least you used to bne able to.
[02:56] <flan_suse> sebsebseb, true. And also the icons/buttons issue with GNOME 2.28 and then 2.30...
[02:56] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis: some how yeah, not as simple as just install and use though
[02:56] <bastid_raZor> civpro: possibly ask in #ubuntu-server
[02:56] <civpro> thanks
[02:56] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis: I use KDM instead :)   for Ubuntu.  looks nice by default with 10.04
[02:56] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis: and looked ok in 9.10
[02:56] <TraumaPony> Anyone know if it's possible to run a wubi install in a VM? I don't feel like rebooting all the time.
[02:57] <jbwiv_> guys, one other question. In both totem, xine, and vlc on my desktop, videos play in sort of negative colors. Blues appear orange and so on. On videos do this. Any idea how to fix this?
[02:57] <sebsebseb> flan_suse: no icons in system menu yeah, that was upstream Gnome, easy to sort that out though :)
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> sebsebseb:  i seem to recall it not being very hard. I never tried.. because i dont worry about  a screen i see for 10 sec  once a weekoor less  due to my Huge massive Uptimes. :)
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> TraumaPony:  clarify what you are trying to do.
[02:58] <JCakeC> bye people... thanks for the help... see you around!
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> I recall a gnome setting years ago to disable ALL icons in all the gnome menus..  wonder if thats been removed?
[02:58] <flan_suse> sebsebseb, not quite. They removed the option in 2.30, so now you have to use gconf to revert it back. Because it's a "tweak". Like someone said, soon enough with GNOME, you'll need to use gconf-editor to change your wallpaper because that's a "tweak".
[02:58] <TraumaPony> I have a windows install, and a wubi install, and I want to run the wubi install in a vm
[02:58] <sebsebseb> lickwid: Ubuntu is a good first distro,  but how good, depends really on the user, their hardware,  and the version
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> TraumaPony:  i dont think thats doable. there are ways to convert a wubi install to a 'normal' install ive heard. or perhaps a VM session install.
[02:59] <sebsebseb> lickwid: out of the versions that are still supported,  I find 8.04 and 9.04 the best
[02:59] <LJRuff> sebsebseb, 8.04 was my first Linux ever - I might be a little biased, but I think that was a *damn* good release...
[02:59] <eroscher> hello
[03:00] <LJRuff> !hi | eroscher
[03:00] <sebsebseb> LJRuff: second release in 2005 of Ubuntu for me, not my first distro also, so yeah I know my Ubuntu :D
[03:00] <eroscher> anyone used lvm within livecd?
[03:00] <eroscher> i need to create lvm volumes
[03:00] <eroscher> where do i start?
[03:00] <eroscher> (besides google)
[03:00] <LJRuff> !flood | eroscher
[03:01] <sebsebseb> lickwid: I don't mind having a bit of a pm as well, for off topic type stuff,  but if support is done in here, someone else may benefit as well
[03:01] <LJRuff> eroscher, please remember that the Enter (Return) key is not the same as a spacebar and cannot act as a substitute for it.
[03:01] <un214> lol
[03:01] <lickwid> sebsebseb: what were the plymouth packages you told me to remove?
[03:01] <eroscher> sorry, i'm swapping from gtalk on one computer
[03:01] <eroscher> and xchat on this one
[03:02] <sebsebseb> lickwid: Plymouth itself you can't remove
[03:02] <eroscher> :P
[03:02] <Loshki> eroscher: you start with the urls Dr_Willis gave you 15 minutes ago...
[03:02] <sebsebseb> lickwid: well not without taking a load of the system with it anyway
[03:02] <eroscher> oops i did it again
[03:02] <un214> working on it
[03:02] <sebsebseb> lickwid: and packages that should be installed
[03:02] <imyousuf> I am using Ubuntu One on Jaunty and Lucid (3 separate machines - 2 Jaunty, 1 Lucid). I had to remove my machine permission for my office laptop and mistakenly I revoked permission for one of my home laptops (its a jaunty). After that when I try to connect I get the following log - http://pastebin.ca/1891511
[03:02] <imyousuf> Any idea how I can get my Jaunty machine reconnect again?
[03:02] <sebsebseb> lickwid: the best you can do is sort of disable it, which is what I told you how to do
[03:02] <eroscher> !lvm
[03:02] <lickwid> sebsebseb: yeah, what was it that i was removing?
[03:03] <un214> heck I may have a way to remove plymouth soon
[03:03] <BeeBuu> anyone know any USB sniffer in ubuntu?
[03:03] <sebsebseb> un214: oh?
[03:03] <un214> yeah
[03:03] <LJRuff> BeeBuu, try lsusb
[03:03] <sebsebseb> LJRuff: you were removing the two default themes for it
[03:03] <un214> need to make source changes to mountall first
[03:03] <sebsebseb> lickwid: you were removing the two default themes for it
[03:03] <BeeBuu> LJRuff:i mean sniffer
[03:03] <sebsebseb> lickwid: and that kind of thing
[03:03] <lickwid> sebsebseb: could you give me their names again?
[03:03] <LJRuff> BeeBuu, I am too newbie to know anything about that. =)
[03:04] <un214> if your system is traditional hd you don't need plymouth period
[03:04] <sebsebseb> lickwid: rww actsually gave me that line originally, the one I gave you
[03:04] <BeeBuu> LJRuff: thanks for you reply
[03:04] <Loshki> BeeBuu: I found this on google: http://hackaday.com/2009/03/19/usb-sniffing-in-linux/
[03:04] <sebsebseb> un214: well if you find out how to remove Plymouth without loads of the system with it, or how to get xsplash  working in 10.04,  be sure to tell me :)
[03:05] <BeeBuu> Loshki: i had google, but..... let me try your show
[03:05] <sebsebseb> lickwid: remove plymouth-label, plymouth-theme-ubuntu-{logo,text}, and plymouth-x11; then remove "splash" from /etc/default/grub and do sudo update-grub
[03:05] <BeeBuu> Loshki: it seem good~~~
[03:05] <Loshki> BeeBuu: I've never tried it myself. Best of luck...
[03:06] <BeeBuu> Loshki: :)
[03:06] <lickwid> sebsebseb: okay, cheers...just thought i'd check to see if i'd properly removed them, and i have.
[03:07] <thune3> imyousuf: i think you sign in to web interface and add your machine: https://one.ubuntu.com/support/installation/  instructions 7-8 sign in:https://one.ubuntu.com
[03:07] <lickwid> sebsebseb: bit frustrating, this. i guess i'll have to try an earlier release of ubuntu
[03:08] <sebsebseb> lickwid: yes could be a good idea,  and  I am thinking 8.04 at the moment
[03:08] <sebsebseb> lickwid: well 9.04 :)  ,but thats on the verge of running out of support, so a bit silly to put that on now
[03:09] <sebsebseb> lickwid: and 9.10 is ok, but  8.04 :)
[03:09] <imyousuf> thune3: trying it out
[03:09] <sebsebseb> lickwid: you could uhmm
[03:09] <sebsebseb> lickwid: virtual machine or Live CD both, and then put one on
[03:09] <lickwid> sebsebseb: alright, i'll give it a go :)
[03:10] <GrazzMan> can anyone help me with a Partition misaligned issue?
[03:10] <sebsebseb> lickwid: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10  http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04  check the ISO as well
[03:11] <Alan502> What's an http tunnel?
[03:11] <imyousuf> thune3: I was hoping that page comes, but page for 7 is visible only once connect tries oauth authentication
[03:11] <sebsebseb> lickwid: you can have really nice log in themes for GDM in 8.04, in 9.10 or 10.04 nope
[03:11] <hd1> trying to set up a new ubuntu box, and getting a dependency cycle when installing sun-java6-jdk between libc6 and perl-base, any ideas?
[03:11] <sebsebseb> lickwid: I used to use blubuntu its in the repo and really nice :)
[03:12] <imyousuf> in my case I need to delete the old oauth token from my installation and somehow instruct the ubuntu one client to re-negotiate. Any idea where the client saves the oauth token? so that I can delete it or reset it?
[03:12] <imyousuf> thune3: I would grateful if you could kindly help
[03:14] <thune3> imyousuf: i don't know the details. i was thinking you just go to https://one.ubuntu.com in the browser and hit the sign in button. Once inside there would be an option.
[03:14] <imyousuf> hmm
[03:14] <imyousuf> but there is no such option I am afraid thune3 :(
[03:17] <perlsyntax> i did this and now i get kick off when i dial up
[03:17] <perlsyntax> sudo chmod a+rw /etc/ppp/pap-secrets
[03:17] <perlsyntax> sudo chmod a+rw /etc/ppp/chap-secrets
[03:17] <perlsyntax> Is there away i can change this?
[03:18] <perlsyntax> any ideas
[03:18] <wildbat> compiling problem, "checking for X... no      configure: error: X development files not found." which lib do i need to install ?
[03:19] <trism> wildbat: xorg-dev should get you most of the stuff you need
[03:19] <perlsyntax> Do anyone know how i can get it to work in gnome-ppp?
[03:20] <IdleOne> wildbat: xserver-xorg-dev MAYBE I really don't know
[03:20] <wildbat> trism, thx ~ installing now
[03:20] <wildbat> IdleOne, thx too
[03:20] <imyousuf> Any idea where ubuntuone stores its OAuth key? I need to remove it so that I can instruct my client to renegotiate
[03:21] <sebsebseb> lickwid: ok hash didn't match,  get another 10.04  ISO,  burn to CD, and try that
[03:21] <perlsyntax> ?
[03:22] <lickwid> sebsebseb: yeah, gonna try that now.
[03:22] <Alan502> Any cross-platform http tunnel?
[03:23] <sebsebseb> lickwid: and obviously get rid of the bad install
[03:24] <thatwebdevguy> Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.04 does not seem to show that I have a sound card in my Asus EEE PC 1500
[03:24] <thatwebdevguy> sorry, 1015
[03:24] <iymovies> Anyone else having problems using Facebook with Gwibber?
[03:24] <sebsebseb> iymovies: yes there have been problems
[03:24] <sebsebseb> iymovies: and I guess still are then, since your asking about that
[03:24] <sebsebseb> iymovies: I guess its still broken then
[03:24] <sebsebseb> maybe not with the gwibber ppa though
[03:24] <thatwebdevguy> I used to have audio through speakers only
[03:25] <thune3> imyousuf: have you tried "u1sync --authorize" which i saw in a few bug reports.
[03:25] <imyousuf> thune3: ok trying that
[03:25] <Methose> when booting my Ubuntu Desktop 9.04 I'm getting an error stating Grub Loading stage1.5 Error 2
[03:26] <sebsebseb> !grub | Methose
[03:28] <imyousuf> thune3: the problem was solved by deleting the ubuntuone oauth token Accessories - Passwords & Encryptions
[03:28] <thatwebdevguy> Anyone know about about my problem?
[03:29] <imyousuf> so now its working just fine :)
[03:29] <thune3> imyousuf: cool.
[03:29] <Methose> ty sebsebseb , I'll try those steps, I tried booting the live CD and was unable to mount the /dev/sda1, as was mentioned in another post, but I'll try this set of instructions
[03:30] <sebsebseb> Methose: ok good luck
[03:30] <imyousuf> thanks thune3
[03:30] <thune3> imyousuf: you gave *me* the answer ;)
[03:31] <imyousuf> but you led me to find the log which enabled me to diagnose the problem :)
[03:35] <Methose> when booting to the live CD and using the grub command I get an error 15: File not found, and also when I try to browse the drive, I get mount: wrong fs type, bad option,  /dev/sda1 missing codepage
[03:36] <GrazzMan> can someone tell me how to creat a partition without getting a misaligned error??
[03:39] <edbian> GrazzMan, Use gparted and it aligns everything for you?
[03:39] <abhijain> problem with dual boot grub menu lost with xp
[03:40] <abhijain> windows hide my ubuntu grub menu
[03:40] <GrazzMan> k, will give it a try
[03:41] <abhijain> grub issue with dual boot window xp in lucid 10.4 how to resolve it
[03:41] <sebsebseb> abhijain: you put Windows on after Ubuntu?
[03:41] <xangua> abhijain: reinstall grub
[03:41] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | abhijain
[03:42] <thune3> your problem description is too short, could you elaborate.
[03:42] <perlsyntax> When i try to dial up i get connect and then it kick me off why is it doing this?
[03:42] <Methose> sebsebseb: any thoughts as to a possible fix or what the problem might be?
[03:42] <perlsyntax> anyone
[03:43] <sebsebseb> Methose: ok old grub
[03:43] <sebsebseb> Methose: whats the problem?  something wont' boot up?
[03:43] <perlsyntax> ??????????
[03:43] <alexbobP> when is somebody going to make a version of apt-get that torrents the debs?
[03:43] <abhijain> ubottu: grub issue with dual boot with windws
[03:44] <sebsebseb> abhijain: which one won't boot up?
[03:44] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know anything on dila up
[03:44] <abhijain> sebsebseb: yeha
[03:44] <sebsebseb> !dialup | perlsyntax
[03:44] <sebsebseb> !patience | perlsyntax
[03:44] <comsa> mmm maybe dialup
[03:44] <perlsyntax> i use gnome
[03:45] <perlsyntax> i did remove modemmanager
[03:45] <sebsebseb> abhijain: Windows won't boot or Ubuntu?
[03:45] <abhijain> sebsebseb: ubuntu 10.4 hide due to xp installation
[03:45] <comsa> perlsyntax try ppp config
[03:45] <perlsyntax> i useing gnome-ppp
[03:45] <thune3> abhijain: you installed xp after ubuntu? or ubuntu afte xp?
[03:45] <sebsebseb> abhijain: I don't help with Grub 2, but I can maybe help Methose with the old version
[03:46] <Methose> sebsebseb: I'm pretty sure it's the old version of grub, it's 9.04. I tried find /boot/grub/stage1 and the error 15 File not found
[03:46] <sebsebseb> Methose: yes 9.04 uses the old version :)
[03:46] <Agu10> hi
[03:46] <perlsyntax> i don't know my dns numbers.
[03:46] <sebsebseb> Methose: so what won't boot up? Windows or Ubuntu?
[03:46] <Methose> I only have Ubuntu installed
[03:46] <comsa> perlsyntax you have to have dns numbers
[03:46] <abhijain> sebsebseb: tell me the steps
[03:46] <Methose> and it's what will not boot up
[03:46] <sebsebseb> Methose: did you have Windows before?
[03:47] <Methose> I did not
[03:47] <perlsyntax> i said said i don't know the dns numbers
[03:47] <sebsebseb> Methose: did 9.04 boot up before?
[03:47] <Methose> it did
[03:47] <sebsebseb> Methose: ok go on the Live CD
[03:47] <sebsebseb> Methose: open the partition from it
[03:47] <sebsebseb> Methose: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:47] <Methose> I'm using the desktop 9.04 i386 iso for  alive cd, that's ok?
[03:48] <sebsebseb> Methose: pastebin the file and give me the link
[03:48] <sebsebseb> Methose: yes the 9.04 desktop ISO
[03:48] <perlsyntax> all i know the prob i ave is pppd that why is drop me off.
[03:48] <Agu10> hey, when I try to connect to a wifi network, the icon keeps "connecting" forever
[03:48] <Agu10> what should I do?
[03:49] <perlsyntax> ?
[03:49] <comsa> hang on
[03:49] <perlsyntax> ok
[03:50] <sebsebseb> Methose: so get your Live CD booted, come back here, and do what I said :)
[03:50] <Methose> sebsebseb: I cannot browse the hd, due to the error: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1
[03:50] <sebsebseb> Methose: uh
[03:50] <perlsyntax> comsa this what i did and i think it kick me off
[03:51] <Methose> missing codepage or helper
[03:51] <perlsyntax> sudo chmod a+rw /etc/ppp/pap-secrets
[03:51] <perlsyntax> sudo chmod a+rw /etc/ppp/chap-secrets
[03:51] <comsa>   internal or external modem
[03:51] <perlsyntax> maybe that it
[03:51] <perlsyntax> build in modem
[03:51] <perlsyntax> i got mwaavem mdoem driver installed.
[03:51] <perlsyntax> mwavem
[03:51] <sebsebseb> Methose: so you can't get into the partition from.  the places menu   or  /media or /mnt ?
[03:52] <comsa> externals work better on linux
[03:52] <perlsyntax> i know this modemk works in ubuntu becuase it worked before
[03:52] <Agu10> hey, how can I connect to wifi networks?
[03:52] <sebsebseb> !wireless | Agu10
[03:53] <GrazzMan> Recreated the Partition using GParted, still getting a Misaligned by 512 bytes... Anyone have any ideas? Does this really matter?
[03:53] <Agu10> it keeps "connecting", but it doesn't finally connect
[03:53] <Methose> sebsebseb: that's what it seems, though I see it as a 10.2 GB drive Media in Places
[03:53] <perlsyntax> comsa it did pick up my modem.
[03:53] <sebsebseb> Methose: ok could be a permissions issue or it just being stupid since you didn't shut it down properly last time
[03:54] <Methose> ok, so reboot her?
[03:54] <sebsebseb> Methose: that won't fix this, but might.  I have another idea, but you would need to be a bit careful with it
[03:54] <digimer> Anyone here have experience getting 10.04 to boot over PXE?
[03:55] <Methose> can't mess it up too much more, she wont boot ;)
[03:55] <perlsyntax> ?
[03:55] <sebsebseb> Methose: open the terminal
[03:55] <Methose> done
[03:56] <comsa> perlsyntax  try pppconfig in terminal
[03:56] <sebsebseb> Methose: now if you run gksudo nautilus you become sudo/root for everything in there, so  be a bit careful not to delete a system file or something by mistake
[03:56] <sebsebseb> Methose: and then try to access the partition like that
[03:56] <perlsyntax> i told you i waqnt gnome-pp to work and i got it to work before.
[03:56] <coz_> mm when someone types   !ops   is that across freenode or just this channel? I keep seeing my nick
[03:57] <sebsebseb> coz_: only channel
[03:57] <Cpudan80> it is per channel - many channels use that trigger though
[03:57] <coz_> sebsebseb, ok thanks
[03:57] <perlsyntax> kii don't know the dns numbers for pppconfig.
[03:57] <Cpudan80> coz_: lately #ubuntu has had spammers which do that trigger while listing -every- person in the channel
[03:58] <coz_> Cpudan80,  ah  mm  ok thanks
[03:58] <sebsebseb> Methose: can you access the partition like that?
[03:58] <coz_> i dont belive I have ops in this channel  that's why I asked
[03:58] <Methose> sebsebseb: got nautilus running, there was an error in the terminal when launching it.
[03:59] <perlsyntax> anyone will to help me.
[03:59] <Methose> the drive no longer shows in Places
[03:59] <Methose> er
[03:59] <sebsebseb> Methose: maybe its not mounted now
[03:59] <Methose> mistake, I mean in the browser, it does not show in the folder menu on the left
[04:00] <perlsyntax> ?
[04:00] <sebsebseb> Methose: ok, but on the first screen it should say stuff like filesystem and what not.  filesystem would be the Live CD
[04:00] <digimer> No PXE love, eh?
[04:00] <sebsebseb> Methose: your partition should also show there
[04:00] <sebsebseb> Methose: or maybe not, but should be able to get into it from  filesystem /media or /mnt
[04:00] <perlsyntax> this room a joke
[04:01] <coz_> mmm
[04:01] <Methose>  /media and /mnt are empty
[04:01] <sebsebseb> Methose: ok close nautilsu
[04:02] <sebsebseb> Methose: what was the error in the terminal? patebin
[04:02] <sebsebseb> !mount
[04:03] <sebsebseb> !unmount
[04:03] <Methose> http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=1948
[04:03] <sebsebseb> Methose: I think your partition might be a bit currupted or something, hence why you can't just access it from the Live CD, and why Grub had an issue with it
[04:05] <Methose> sebsebseb: was the !mount for me?
[04:05] <sebsebseb> Methose: odd error
[04:05] <sebsebseb> Methose: does it show the partition on the desktop of the Live CD?
[04:06] <Methose> it does not, thought it shows in Places
[04:06] <chewbranca> what's the best way to get spidermonkey installed on Lucid? I can't find anything about it, and it looks like libmozjs-dev was removed in Lucid: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libmozjs-dev
[04:06] <sam555> hello all
[04:06] <sam555> how does one change make the ip address static?
[04:06] <sebsebseb> Methose: does it show in places now?
[04:07] <Methose> it does, as a 10.2 Media
[04:07] <chewbranca> sam555, http://www.iceteks.com/forums/archive/t/3298/
[04:07] <comsa>   perlsyntax>i 'd  use pppconfig but use   dynamic DNS.
[04:07] <sebsebseb> Methose: ok good :)
[04:07] <sebsebseb> Methose: anyway your error message that you showed me, mentions samba, which is odd
[04:08] <Agu10> hey
[04:08] <Agu10> can you help me with wifi?
[04:08] <sebsebseb> !wireless | Agu10
[04:09] <Methose> that is odd, it's only real purpose was ntop and nagios
[04:09] <sebsebseb> Methose: whats that the second bit?
[04:09] <Methose> second bit?
[04:10] <sebsebseb> Methose: ntop and nagios
[04:10] <sebsebseb> ?
[04:10] <Methose> I was agrteing that it was odd about samba, because it's only purpose was to run ntop and nagios, neither requires samba (to my knowledge)
[04:11] <sebsebseb> Methose: there is data on the partition that you want I guess?
[04:11] <crdlb> chewbranca: what do you need it for?
[04:12] <sebsebseb> Methose: Is it only Ubuntu on the computer?
[04:12] <sam555> besides vi, what command line editor can I use?
[04:13] <YzNN> hey
[04:13] <Methose> it is only ubuntu on the machine, but yes the config files for tha Nagios install would be useful if not extremely time saving
[04:13] <YzNN> how do u use the away command on irssi?
[04:13] <YzNN> AWAY %|[-one | -all] [<reason>]
[04:13] <sebsebseb> Methose: What is Nagios ?
[04:14] <Methose> I'm already rebuilding a new box with server 10.04
[04:14] <Methose> http://www.nagios.org/
[04:14] <YzNN> nvm
[04:14] <sebsebseb> Methose: oh
[04:14] <Methose> network monitoring for IT infrastructure
[04:14] <Methose> life saver :D
[04:15] <sebsebseb> Methose: well there are other ways to get that file from the partition probably,  uhmm I think theres a command or something to like force unmount the partition properly, and then you mount it agan and should work.  and  chmod or whatever it was to get into files from the Live CD on a partition
[04:15] <sebsebseb> Methose: and Grub is no longer supported upstream, since Grub 2,  and 9.04 will run out of support at the end of October, so a good time really for you to clean install on that computer with 10.04 really
[04:16] <Methose> yup, just dead in the water, i'd like to have the old up and running and rebuildthe new in a less critical timeframe
[04:17] <Methose> think I could over install Grub2 and rebuild the mbr?
[04:17] <Methose> or am i way off base
[04:17] <sebsebseb> Methose: yes  you can install Grub 2 into 9.04, but that may not help
[04:17] <sebsebseb> Methose: you could also re install the old Grub
[04:17] <sebsebseb> !grub | Methose
[04:17] <edbian> I am just learning emacs.  I like to have a shell open in one window but I noticed the emacs shell isn't quite the same as my gnome-terminal shell.  Is there any way I can give it a more native feel?  What do you do?
[04:17] <Methose> i'm down to try that
[04:18] <sebsebseb> Methose: so the first link in the factoid, even though Windows didn't do it
[04:18] <sebsebseb> Methose: I mean mess up Grub
[04:18] <sebsebseb> edbian: #emacs
[04:18] <edbian> sebsebseb, thanks bud
[04:19] <sebsebseb> edbian: np
[04:19]  * YzNN YzNN yawns
[04:19] <Methose> sebsebseb: I'm nto sure if i'm following that one correctly, sorry
[04:19]  * YzNN yawns
[04:19] <YzNN> sorru
[04:19] <sebsebseb> Methose: when people put Windows on after a Linux distro
[04:19] <YzNN> sorry
[04:19] <sebsebseb> Methose: it goes over the MBR (Master Boot Record) so only Windows will boot
[04:20] <sebsebseb> Methose: so  well the rest of Grub in /boot is still there, but not what was on the MBR
[04:20] <sebsebseb> Methose: in your case Windows hasn't done that, but your Grub is messed up, so if you follow the instructions for re installing Grub, the same one people who had Windows going over the MBR would use,  then hopefuly things will wrok again
[04:21] <suicidepills> when i go to administration > shared folders and create a new share, "samba" doesn't appear as an option in the "share through" drop-down.  Does anyone know why that might be?
[04:21] <sebsebseb> Methose: also if you Google the error Grub is giving you,  then you can probably find out what is wrong.  I think its an actsaul partition issue
[04:21] <sebsebseb> Methose: that it hasn't been unmounted/shutdown properly
[04:21] <Barridus> ntfs-config appears to be broken.  i'm trying to automount a NTFS partition in fstab manually.  i know the uuid from blkid, but i can't seem to add a line that's valid
[04:23] <Cuervo> Is there any way to make files on a read only filesystem executable?
[04:23] <Methose> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Grub#Ubuntu%209.10%20&%20earlier
[04:23] <Cuervo> I have files on a dvd that I want to execute, but it says it can't because the dvd is read only.
[04:23] <sebsebseb> !permissions | Cuervo
[04:23] <Methose> that one didn't work because of the find couldn't load the device
[04:24] <sebsebseb> Methose: also maybe not really the best solution to get the file you want, but this could work.  Deleting the partition and then using Testdisk to recover data from it.  It seems Testdisk only works with partitions that have actsualley been deleted.
[04:25] <Jordan_U> Methose: Run "sudo fsck -y /dev/sda1" from a LiveCD.
[04:25] <Cuervo> sebsebseb: I know what file permissions are, and and I know how to use chmod, but the point is the filesystem is read only. chmod does not work.
[04:25] <sebsebseb> Methose: ok here we go :)  Jordan_U  knows his stuff
[04:25] <joshmuffin> can anyone help me, im using ubuntu 10.04 and I compiled gnome-shell from source, when i gnome-shell --replace it flickers and is unusable for about 30secs before it crashes, terminal output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/456343/
[04:25] <Methose> ah
[04:26] <Methose> superblock has an invalid journal
[04:26] <Cuervo> sorry if I didn't explain myself well.
[04:26] <Methose> and now a bunch of scrolly shit that goes on and one.. lol shoulda piped the out to file :)
[04:27] <Methose> ty Jordan_U
[04:27] <Methose> i has fingers crossed
[04:27] <sebsebseb> Jordan_U: anyway I am basically done with this for now :)  so hopefuly you can help Methose properly,  two issues.  1.  his Grub won't boot up Ubuntu thats the old Grub and Ubuntu 9.04  2.  he can't access the 9.04 partition from the Live CD
[04:28] <Methose> ty very kindly sebsebseb for all your help and patience
[04:28] <sebsebseb> Methose: Ok well good luck :)
[04:28] <h00k> Methose: please watch the language and keep it family friendly
[04:29] <Cuervo> Never mind. Figured out that I could just use wine directly.
[04:29] <Methose> so sorry h00k, certainly will do
[04:29] <GrazzMan> I'm about to go back to windows....
[04:29] <sebsebseb> GrazzMan: Why?
[04:29] <GrazzMan> still cant partition without getting a misaligned error
[04:30] <Jordan_U> GrazzMan: What is the exact error and when do you see it?
[04:31] <GrazzMan> in Disk Utility: The partition is misaligned by 512 byted. This may result in very poor performance. Repatitioning is suggested.
[04:31] <foobarbecue> Hi, I have several computers on a network. When updating ubuntu packages, is there a way I can avoid repeating the same downloads for each computer?
[04:31] <sebsebseb> Methose: good idea to back up :D
[04:31] <sebsebseb> Methose: that way if somethign like this was to happen again, oh well
[04:31] <joshmuffin> !songbird
[04:31] <Methose> sebsebseb: this is actually my backup copy
[04:32] <YzNN> hey
[04:32] <Alan502> an http tunnel i could with ubuntu and windows?
[04:32] <YzNN> qestion about compiz fusion
[04:32] <sebsebseb> Methose: oh
[04:32] <Alan502> !httptunnel
[04:32] <Jordan_U> GrazzMan: Partition with Disk Utility then, since it's the utility complaining about misalignment it should allign things properly when creating partitions itself.
[04:32] <sebsebseb> Methose: well then why not do 10.04 on there soon, and copy the original to that install?
[04:32] <YzNN> anyone can help?
[04:32] <codebrainz> foobarbecue, http://keystoneit.wordpress.com/2006/08/25/local-network-ubuntu-repository/ is one way
[04:32] <sebsebseb> !ask | YzNN
[04:32] <joshmuffin> !factoids > Alan502
[04:33] <Alan502> thanks
[04:33] <YzNN> i cant get my screen to rotate into a cube
[04:33] <Methose> well this is a VM running on ESX, the host died, we rebuilt and restored the vm from a backup copy
[04:33] <YzNN> i have compiz fusion however
[04:33] <GrazzMan> Jordan_U: So it is partition, and formatted to Ext4. So, just ignor it and go on with life?
[04:33] <joshmuffin> !details | YzNN
[04:33] <foobarbecue> codebrainz: thanks
[04:33] <sebsebseb> YzNN: ok
[04:33] <sebsebseb> YzNN: you see on the bottom panel
[04:33] <sebsebseb> YzNN: you need four workspaces instead of two
[04:33] <Jordan_U> GrazzMan: If you're not noticing performance issues then don
[04:34] <GrazzMan> KK... Will do
[04:34] <Jordan_U> GrazzMan: ...then don't worry about it.
[04:34] <YzNN> yeah, i have four, its automatically there in the latest version
[04:34] <thune3> foobarbecue: there are other options, apt-cacher and apt-cacher-ng  are options
[04:34] <joshmuffin> !enter |m YzNN
[04:34] <Methose> sebsebseb: so I was trying to get the vm up and running, so I can build the server 10.04 up proper
[04:34] <sebsebseb> Methose: vm?
[04:34] <sebsebseb> Methose: what vm?
[04:34] <foobarbecue> thune3: aha, good because I really don't need to mirror the whole repo
[04:34] <Methose> virtual machine
[04:34] <sebsebseb> Methose: yeah where are you doing vm?
[04:35] <YzNN> sebsebseb: ctrl - alt just left  just switches between desktops...
[04:35] <sebsebseb> Methose: 10.04 server vm? or 9.04 is a vm?
[04:35] <sebsebseb> Methose: anyway by the way with server edition you can get support in #ubuntu-server
[04:35] <YzNN> sebsebseb: what do u think?
[04:36] <Methose> well both. we're running ESX on the physical server, it has a gues vm running 9.04
[04:36] <sebsebseb> YzNN: system > preferences  >  appearance
[04:36] <sebsebseb> YzNN: desktop effects
[04:36] <sebsebseb> YzNN: put it on extra or whatever it is.  I am not even using Ubuntu right now :D
[04:36] <Methose> I'm rebuilding a 10.04 server edit on the same phsical ESX host, but would like to restore the 9.04 to have running until the new one can be properly built out nad tested
[04:36] <sebsebseb> YzNN: anyway I don't tend to use Compiz so I won't be of much help, and I am on the verge of  finnishing in here for now
[04:37] <juken> What can I do when my machine won't startup and says "BUG: soft luckup - CPU#3 stuck for 61s! [modprobe:747]"
[04:37] <sebsebseb> Methose: oh right ok
[04:38] <intmed> tools for checking the errors in dvd. that should show the file that cannot be copied
[04:38] <sebsebseb> !compiz | YzNN
[04:38] <YzNN> haha sebseb: thanx man, much appreciated
[04:38] <Methose> sebsebseb: :)
[04:39] <codebrainz> juken, i've heard of that bug before, it's fairly common i think
[04:39] <NinoScript> having my cellphone connected through usb, just to charge it, if I open and close it (it's the slide kind), it suspends my notebook! haha! it's the weirdest thing I've ever seen
[04:39] <juken> codebrainz: I've been Googling around and it looks like VirtualBox is the cause some of the times, but I don't have VirtualBox installed.
[04:40] <Methose> Jordan_U: I'm sure there are many variables but roughly how long would fsck take?
[04:40] <codebrainz> juken, one thing to try would be to disable some USB controllers or anything like that in BIOS to see if it helps
[04:41] <Jordan_U> Methose: How large is the partition?
[04:41] <Methose> 10.4 GB
[04:42] <Methose> running on 2 x 1 GB procs and 2 GB RAM
[04:42] <wmcinnis> hello
[04:42] <codebrainz> Methose, 3.12 minutes
[04:43] <Methose> codebrainz: hahaha ;)
[04:43] <Jordan_U> Methose: I'd expect it to be less than 30 minutes, but I wouldn't be worried if it's more.
[04:43] <codebrainz> Methose, hehe, i don't think very long though
[04:44] <wmcinnis> question when i installed compiz and turned on the cube i get bad video taring i tried the vsync to 60hz but its still having a problem i have a good video card and i do have the catalyst drivers installed
[04:44] <Jordan_U> Methose: It takes longer when there's actually problems to fix, which in your case there are.
[04:44] <Methose> yup, I was trying to gauge how bad off I am
[04:45] <wmcinnis> anyone?
[04:46] <codebrainz> wmcinnis, I'm not familiar with the word taring
[04:46] <wmcinnis> umm its not smooth
[04:47] <shishire> how do I change the time to screensaver from the command line?  I'm writing a script to activate on certain conditions and increase the time until the screensaver starts.
[04:48] <codebrainz> shishire, man xscreensaver ... it's all in there (just checked)
[04:48] <shishire> how do I change the time to screensaver from the command line?  I'm writing a script to activate on certain conditions and increase the time until the screensaver starts.
[04:48] <shishire> er
[04:48] <shishire> damn up arrow
[04:49] <shishire> codebrainz, ty
[04:50] <joshmuffin> can anyone help me, im using ubuntu 10.04 and I compiled gnome-shell from source, when i gnome-shell --replace it flickers and is unusable for about 30secs before it crashes, terminal output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/456343/
[04:51] <shishire> codebrainz, just checked, I'm using gnome-screensaver not xscreensaver, and I don't have xscreensaver installed.  man gnome-screensaver and man gnome-screensaver-preferences give no helpful information.
[04:52] <codebrainz> shishire, there's an  /apps/gnome-screensaver in gconf-editor where you can change this
[04:52] <Jordan_U> shishire: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeScreensaver/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#I.27m_developing_an_application_that_has_a_fullscreen_mode.__Is_there_a_way_that_I_can_disable_the_screensaver.3F
[04:52] <codebrainz> shishire, what language you using?
[04:53] <shishire> codebrainz, bash scripting.  Jordan_U, I don't want to disable it, just lengthen the time before it starts.
[04:54] <codebrainz> shishire, ok, so you can use like this gconftool-2 --set '/apps/gnome-screensaver/idle_delay' --type int 5 or similar
[04:54] <shishire> codebrainz, cool thanks
[04:54] <codebrainz> shishire, man gconftool-2 for proper syntax of course :)
[04:54] <shishire> setting it so that when I'm connected to my home network the screensaver takes longer to activate.  But I want it to be fast when I'm somewhere else :D
[04:58] <bsmith093> im trying to connect to a windows network and samba ( or whatever i use when i open the network folder) says cannot get share list from server
[04:59] <codebrainz> bsmith093, did you try the Connect to Server... option?  that's what I usually use for gui samba
[04:59] <bsmith093> well i dont know the ip of the comp im connecting to
[04:59] <bsmith093> i just want to see if my share is on the network
[04:59] <codebrainz> it should work with the hostname i think
[05:00] <bsmith093> nope
[05:00] <bsmith093> just checked
[05:02] <codebrainz> bsmith093, i can't help much, I never had much luck with any samba/cifs GUI programs I just end up putting the mounts in /etc/fstab so it 'just works' and then I forget all about it :)
[05:02] <bsmith093> well the ip arent static
[05:03] <codebrainz> bsmith093, it's *supposed* to work with hostnames I believe
[05:03] <bsmith093> whats the syntax
[05:03] <joshmuffin> can anyone help me, im using ubuntu 10.04 and I compiled gnome-shell from source, when i gnome-shell --replace it flickers and is unusable for about 30secs before it crashes, terminal output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/456343/
[05:05] <edbian> joshmuffin, The gnome-shell in the repos is more stable. Try that :)  Little tip, turn off compiz first as well.
[05:06] <joshmuffin> I don't have compiz installed :)
[05:06] <joshmuffin> and isnt the one in the repos outdated?
[05:07] <edbian> joshmuffin, define "outdated"  Development has been done on gnome-shell (as probably every other piece of software in the repos).  But the one in the repos is stable
[05:07] <joshmuffin> edbian, last time i tried the repo version i got the same issue. im pretty sure the issue is with the ati drivers
[05:09] <edbian> joshmuffin, It's complaining about ubuntu new notifications
[05:10] <kickingintender> kubuntu is not installing inside windows.....any help
[05:11] <kickingintender> should i try virtual box>>??
[05:11] <abhi_nav> kickingintender, ask in #kubuntu
[05:12] <kickingintender> ok
[05:12] <iflema> kickingintender good idea but its not as good as the real thing......
[05:14] <th2> hi all. im using newest ubuntu+compiz. i have this strnge problem with youtube: when i go fullscreen it just "moves" player to black background(i have 2 displays)
[05:14] <kickingintender> actually virtual box isnt 2 good
[05:15] <kickingintender> i know...problems with virtual box accessing drives
[05:15] <codebrainz> vbox is the best in its class imho
[05:16] <iflema> kickingintender m.... spin the livecd if it goes good install it native I say.... *cough* KDE4sux *cough*
[05:17] <kickingintender> codebrainz what about other vm's
[05:17] <codebrainz> heh, kde won't even run on my computer, even if i do a full blown kubuntu-desktop install
[05:17] <codebrainz> kickingintender, i love qemu, but it's slow and acceleration doesn't work on my computer I don't think
[05:18] <codebrainz> kickingintender, vmware player and server have lousy interfaces and I've never used the $ version
[05:18] <kickingintender> yeah ubuntu with compiz and so bling wud be better than kde4
[05:18] <un214> that does it
[05:19] <un214> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/599624
[05:19] <un214> I can't see one good reason why I should even keep upstart or mountall anymore
[05:19] <Gumby> hi all, running 10.04 LTS on a new laptop and the nVidia drivers do not seem to be recognizing my geforce 310M GPU.  Anyone familiar with getting this chip working?  It works ok with the default driver
[05:19] <kickingintender> i have a question about upgrading dudes ....which is better choice a new ram or new graphics card?
[05:19] <un214> it now yields to me zero benefit over sysvinit
[05:20] <abhi_nav> both
[05:20] <IdleOne> ##hardware would be a good place to ask that
[05:20] <kickingintender> gumby u installed kubuntu isnt it?
[05:21] <Gumby> kickingintender: yeah I did
[05:21] <th2> hi all. im using newest ubuntu+compiz. i have this strnge problem with youtube: when i go fullscreen it just "moves" player to a black background(i have 2 displays) and it stays small
[05:22] <Gumby> kickingintender: Im no sure thats even relevant though as I believe they'd use the same nVidia driver and the same xorg
[05:22] <codebrainz> th2, i get video in fullscreen, but it's unwatchable
[05:23] <kickingintender> gumby truth is kde4 isnt all that good install ubuntu
[05:23] <th2> codebrainz, how come?
[05:23] <joshmuffin> kde4 is great
[05:23] <joshmuffin> what are you on about
[05:23] <codebrainz> th2, flash sux
[05:23] <Gumby> kickingintender: thats a matter of opinion really
[05:24] <Gumby> kickingintender: and somewhat irrelevant to my question
[05:24] <joshmuffin> Gumby, install what you want
[05:24] <thune3> un214: it sounds like a bug, i'm just wondering how you came to notice it since full filesystem checks are infrequent, and the chances of this causing a noticable slowdown seem infrequent.
[05:24] <codebrainz> th2, i have excellent graphics performance and everything else runs absolutely perfect, except flash
[05:24] <joshmuffin> !ubottu
[05:24] <un214> touch /forcefsck
[05:24] <th2> codebrainz, me too. I have almost brand new ati and everything else works fine!
[05:24] <joshmuffin> !opinion | kickingintender
[05:25] <th2> codebrainz, but how is your youtube unwatchable? I mean does it blur or something?
[05:25] <Gumby> joshmuffin: I plan on it.  I have to figure out why the nVidia drivers do not work with this card though :)
[05:25] <kickingintender> well iam not here for discussion on kubuntu vs ubuntu
[05:26] <kickingintender> i want 2 know some issues can be resolved
[05:26] <codebrainz> th2, it's fine in regular size, but in fullscreen it stutters to much, it's like less than a frame a second
[05:26] <un214> what would it take to bring back sysvinit
[05:26] <codebrainz> th2, two boxes, one ati, one nv, both decent, same prob on each
[05:26] <Flomaster> I am getting an error that I can't seem to understand
[05:26] <kickingintender> i want my pc to run smoothly  on net.....system testing says it doesnt find working internet connection
[05:26] <Methose> yay, it's done
[05:27] <Flomaster> ?? pastebin
[05:27] <kickingintender> also what package is neccessary 2 boost internet performance
[05:27] <Methose> Jordan_U: anything else I should do or just reboot her?
[05:27] <th2> codebrainz, those are bad news. so its possible that theres no workaround?
[05:27] <joshmuffin> !details | Flomaster
[05:28] <codebrainz> th2, you should be able to at least get some sort of picture
[05:28] <kickingintender> iam finding problems with totem as it doesnt work in normal mode shows blank screen....i have quick time movies to watch....nothing much
[05:28] <thune3> un214: /forcefsck is not an everyday occurance. For normal filesystems with staggered check intervals, no one would notice. (that said, it is still a bug)
[05:28] <codebrainz> th2, have you tried downloading the plugin straight from adobe?
[05:28] <un214> until your uptime exceeds the check intervals
[05:28] <adante> hi, how do i logoff from a gnome session without a mouse?
[05:28] <Flomaster> joshmuffin: I forget the pastebin link and don't want to get banned for posting 5 lines of code
[05:29] <jits> hi guys.. i am trying to setup a dual display in ubuntu .. one is via inbuilt and another via a pci card .. but only the card display is being identified .. lshw shows both cards
[05:29] <th2> is this an user error only: I cant screenshot full screen flash movie like youtube? when I hit Prt Scr it exits the full screen.
[05:29] <th2> codebrainz, I have a picture. but its small. like the default player on youtube.
[05:29] <simar> how con i change icons of .mht file in ubuntu??
[05:29] <simar> i want to change the default icon
[05:30] <Flomaster> here is my error EOFError: EOF when reading a line using the program  Sickbeard and Sabnzbd
[05:30] <codebrainz> th2, oh, i see, i though it was always black, well that's not too bad then :)
[05:30] <kickingintender> mht files wont even run inside ubuntu...they are ie files
[05:30] <kickingintender> firefox kicks these files
[05:30] <th2> codebrainz, those 1080 dpi clips aint so impressive in a small box :(
[05:31] <thune3> un214: that is the one thing missing from your bug report. the impact. it is unclear how much time is "lost" from checking the partitions simultaneously instead of searially. [i agree this is a bug btw]
[05:31] <un214> 5x
[05:31] <joshmuffin> Flomaster, what version of ubuntu are you using
[05:32] <thune3> un214: but how much actual time is that
[05:32] <Flomaster> 10.04 lucid desktop http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/FP9Js8mL
[05:32] <Flomaster> joshmuffin: 10.04 lucid desktop http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/FP9Js8mL
[05:32] <simar> kickingintender, I had made these run with a firefox extension .. I want to ask is how in general we can change the icons of a particular type eg - txt file may be
[05:32] <joshmuffin> Flomaster, what are you trying to do, what happens when you try to do? what do you expect to happen
[05:32] <codebrainz> th2, have you tried just opening the screen shot utility from the menu ahead of time?
[05:32] <Methose> Jordan_U: I'm still not able to view /mnt or /media in nautilus
[05:32] <simar> kickingintender, is there good themes avaliable ..??
[05:32] <un214> who cares, I'm probably about to replace the entire boot sequence anyway
[05:33] <th2> codebrainz, hmm I could try that. I use Print Screen key normally
[05:33] <Flomaster> joshmuffin: sickbeard is searching websites for Nzb files it find the file and should send it to Sabnzb to be dowloaded but I get this error and the file doesn't get sent nor downloaded
[05:34] <joshmuffin> Flomaster, from my limited python understanding it looks like there is a problem in the actual code. did you write it yourself? where did you get it, if you didnt?
[05:34] <badmox> hi i have some problem with Solr, installed it, installed Java removed all and tryed again but always got "java -jar post.jar *.xml" "Unable to access jarfile post.jar"
[05:34] <joshmuffin> !java | badmox
[05:35] <thune3> un214: because 2 minutes every 3 months is slightly annoying at most.
[05:35] <Flomaster> joshmuffin: here is the entire error code http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/h2i38X4K
[05:35] <codebrainz> Flomaster, you can add a try/except block around that and just pass on an EOFError to skip that file (if it's a bad file issue)
[05:35] <leprechau> probably been asked a thousand times...and I'm sorry...but does anyone here know if there is a PPA for thunderbird 3.1-release for amd64?
[05:35] <un214> what's annoying is the obvious incompetance of the developers
[05:35] <joshmuffin> Flomaster, can you please answer my questions then we can move further towards getting this issue solved
[05:35] <th2> codebrainz, ah I didnt even know that theres a Timer! thanks for the tip
[05:36] <un214> in trying to squeeze a few extra seconds they demonstrated they do not understand unix
[05:37] <Flomaster> joshmuffin: sorry I didn't see your question do I didn't write it myself
[05:37] <codebrainz> Flomaster, is it one specific file that won't work, or many?
[05:37] <joshmuffin> Flomaster, try joining #python and asking there?
[05:37] <Flomaster> joshmuffin: thanks
[05:38] <thune3> un214: fstab has a well defined syntax that defines behavior that is not being honored, it is a bug. But i don't think *this* is the issue to wage a jihad against upstart over.
[05:38] <th2> codebrainz, heres my problem caught on camera! http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8278927/youtube%20problem.png
[05:39] <codebrainz> th2, if it's not a flash bug (more likely), you can try a different screen cap utility, prolly a few more in the repos
[05:39] <joshmuffin> !botsnack | *
[05:39] <joshmuffin> !botsnack | /me
[05:39] <th2> codebrainz, hmm whats "screen cap utility"?
[05:40] <codebrainz> th2, like the little program you're using now, but a different one
[05:40] <Phoenixz> Why is it since like Ubuntu 9.10 that whenever my harddrive is busy that at once the entire UI freezes up? At times I cant even move the mouse just because the HD is busy..
[05:40] <Phoenixz> Anything I could do to get that better?
[05:40] <codebrainz> th2, search in Synaptic Package Manager for screen shot/screen capture
[05:40] <th2> codebrainz, for what purpose?
[05:41] <|ns|nR8> Phoenixz, sounds like your hard drive is dying
[05:41] <codebrainz> th2, to take screenshots of your full screen flash
[05:41] <joshmuffin> th2, recording what your doing on your computer in video format
[05:41] <joshmuffin> th2, or images
[05:41] <Phoenixz> |ns|nR8: Nope, HD is perfect
[05:41] <Phoenixz> its just busy
[05:42] <th2> codebrainz, ahh theres some kind of misunderstanding now. that screenshot is fine :) problem is that as you can see the video isnt "full screen"
[05:42] <|ns|nR8> Phoenixz,  How do you know its perfect
[05:42] <codebrainz> Phoenixz, is there a indexing service or anything like that running which is thrashing the system?
[05:42] <Phoenixz> codebrainz: already looked for friggin strigi, not there.. any other ones I should be aware of?
[05:43] <codebrainz> th2, correct, and I'm suggesting that using a different program to capture the image would potentially result in a proper fullscreen capture instead of the little box with black borders as in your screenshot you posted
[05:43] <Phoenixz> |ns|nR8: because it was replaced like a month ago.. the one before had the same problem but crashed after the laptop fell on the floor..
[05:44] <th2> codebrainz, but in reality my youtube "fullscreen" is just that little box
[05:44] <codebrainz> Phoenixz, not sure specifically to find out what's using the most disk activity, but top/System Monitor will show CPU%/MEM which should indicate some culprits
[05:45] <zulgaban> hi
[05:45] <shishire> ok, sudo -i, then su shishire, then gconftool-2 gives me a different set of configurations than my normal one.  Shouldn't gconf get it's values from my /home/shishire/.gconf2 dir?
[05:45] <codebrainz> th2, oh ok.  then my original solution of: "flash sux"  :)
[05:45] <Phoenixz> Also, when swap was in use, the swap stays, even until hours after when its not needed anymore (mem using app is closed).. I made a quick swapflush script that I run manually that does swapoff, swapon.. but that too takes like half an hour to run for 200 meg swap.. very very slow
[05:46] <codebrainz> Phoenixz, leave memory management to the kernel
[05:46] <Phoenixz> codebrainz: thats the thing.. top shows nothing usefull (AFAIK) on disk usage.. cpu usage is like 30% and I can hardly move the mouse
[05:46] <simar> hello, can anyone tell me what is gtk+
[05:46] <th2> codebrainz, :(. sry for my english
[05:46] <Phoenixz> codebrainz: well, my system noticably speeds up after I flushed swap.. its swapping like crazy while there is enough ram available..
[05:46] <codebrainz> simar, it's a programming toolkit which helps write GUI programs for linux/windows/maybe mac
[05:46] <nascentmind> hi. When i do a sudo net ads join -U user I get a Failed to join domain: User specified does not have administrator privileges. How can I fix this?
[05:47] <simar> codebrainz, whats the ful form..
[05:47] <codebrainz> simar, GIMP ToolKit Plus
[05:48] <codebrainz> if that's what you meant
[05:48] <simar> codebrainz, ok i think i got it in wikipedia .. thanks
[05:49] <simar> codebrainz, Is there a way of changing the default icon of any particular type of file in ubuntu ex may be text file???
[05:49] <codebrainz> simar, under /usr/share/icons, the themes there, just directories of icons one for each theme.  change the icons in there under your selected theme
[05:50] <codebrainz> simar, I think GTK mostly uses the system icons, so it should also use your modified icons
[05:50] <Maletor> I need to purge and install alsa. However, it says it will remove ubuntu-desktop when I select to purge alsa, how can I stop it from doing that?
[05:50] <simar> codebrainz, ok i will try ..
[05:52] <codebrainz> Maletor, apt-get --purge --reinstall install alsa might do it
[05:52] <Maletor> Let me know what you think of this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6589810#post6589810
[05:53] <perlsyntax>  Would be good idea to install the tar file of mwavem would that be better idea if the deb file not working?
[05:53] <perlsyntax> :)
[05:54] <perlsyntax> anyone
[05:54] <Jordan_U> Methose: You can try mounting it again, or just boot and see if everything works now.
[05:54] <codebrainz> perlsyntax, you can compile from source if you want, will probably get you a newer version, but might be a pain
[05:55] <perlsyntax> i download mwavem 1.0 or should i download 2.0?
[05:55] <perlsyntax> i see
[05:56] <codebrainz> perlsyntax, use the version recommended by the developers
[05:56] <perlsyntax> all i have to do if ./configure make install that it?
[05:56] <perlsyntax> where can i find that.
[05:57] <codebrainz> perlsyntax, on the website for whatever that is i guess, and see the README or INSTALL file in the tar for install instructions
[05:57] <shishire> ok, something is seriously wrong here, and I can't figure out what: http://pastebin.com/7rdPGZhJ
[05:58] <joshmuffin> Flomaster, from my limited python understanding it looks like there is a problem in the actual code. did you write it yourself? where did you get it, if you didnt?
[05:58] <joshmuffin> woops
[05:58] <joshmuffin> soz
[05:58] <joshmuffin> can anyone help me, im using ubuntu 10.04 and I compiled gnome-shell from source, when i gnome-shell --replace it flickers and is unusable for about 30secs before it crashes, terminal output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/456343/
[05:59] <codebrainz> joshmuffin, have you tried the gnome channel?
[05:59] <shishire> http://pastebin.com/j0yAGjJb  <-- Better highlighted version
[06:00] <codebrainz> shishire, gconf settings are per-user, so with sudo, you're getting root's gconf settings, and without, you're getting yours
[06:00] <joshmuffin> codebrainz, no one has replied all day
[06:01] <shishire> codebrainz, no, but I sudo su to root, then root su's to me, so I should be back to my gconf settings.  But I'm not.  idk why
[06:01] <codebrainz> joshmuffin, yeah, it's slow over there, they are very helpful when they're around.  there's some junk on google
[06:02] <joshmuffin> codebrainz, im gonna try ubuntu-devel
[06:02] <joshmuffin> #ubuntu-devel*
[06:02] <codebrainz> joshmuffin, is it anywhere near stable yet?
[06:02] <joshmuffin> Yeah..
[06:03] <joshmuffin> but theres some majour issue with ati graphics cards
[06:03] <joshmuffin> like mine
[06:03] <codebrainz> shishire, maybe try the --login option for su, not really sure otherwise
[06:05] <shishire> codebrainz, tried that too, no change.  Just checked the file in /home/shishire/.gconf/apps/gnome-screesaver/, and it contains 60, which is what I see when running chained through root.  But the current gconfd hasn't taken notice or something
[06:06] <froes> hi, how can i make ubuntu reload all system variables without restarting the system ????
[06:06] <dim3000> hi, how much swap space should i put for 4GB of ram under 32-bit?
[06:07] <codebrainz> shishire, maybe the --config-source option on gconftool-2
[06:07] <froes> i have changed the path, did a source /etc/environment .. it works for the local user .. not for sudo commands ... even after running source with root user
[06:07] <froes> any ideas?
[06:08] <shishire> codebrainz, ok, this is getting weirder and weirder.  when chained through root, gconftool-2 --ping returns 2, which means the gconfd isn't running.  When not chained, it returns 0, which means it is running
[06:08] <quietone> my laptop fell and I'd like to know what to do to check the disk. I have run 'extended tests' in the disk utility and all is well. But, should I do more? If so, what?
[06:08] <codebrainz> dim3000, if you use hibernation it'll need some room, probably less than 4GB though
[06:09] <th2> When I do "swapon -a" output is swapon: cannot find the device for UUID=5b19d265-2804-436e-a522-73f31d204cf8
[06:09] <dim3000> codebrainz: ok how much if hibernation?
[06:09] <codebrainz> shishire, why are you substituting root only to substitute back?
[06:09] <shishire> ahah!  codebrainz, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gconf/+bug/290647
[06:09] <th2> When I do "swapon -a" output is swapon: cannot find the device for UUID=5b19d265-2804-436e-a522-73f31d204cf8. But Im able to mount it via gparted :S
[06:09] <dim3000> codebrainz: 4gb also?
[06:09] <codebrainz> dim3000, I don't think all 4GB, probably compressed or something
[06:10] <shishire> codebrainz, I'm trying to see what the script I'm writing sees.  It's run as root by NetworkManager, and has to su to me
[06:10] <codebrainz> shishire, how come?
[06:11] <shishire> um, NetworkManager runs as root, so all it's scripts spawn as root processes?
[06:11] <codebrainz> shishire, but how come it needs to become you?
[06:11] <shishire> codebrainz, so it can update my gconf
[06:12] <shishire> otherwise it will try to update it's own gconf, which is undesired
[06:12] <codebrainz> shishire, i think the --config-source option of gconftool-2 will work on any arbitrary config
[06:12] <codebrainz> shishire, not tried it, but i believe that's what it's for
[06:13] <shishire> codebrainz, will try.  Also found a possible workaround dealing with exporting the DBUS session shell variable correctly to the su.
[06:17] <th2> When I do "swapon -a" output is swapon: cannot find the device for UUID=5b19d265-2804-436e-a522-73f31d204cf8. But Im able to mount it via gparted :S
[06:18] <yessir_turan> Hello, my startup programs don't work in ubuntu 10.04
[06:18] <yessir_turan> can anybody help?
[06:18] <ridin> is there a program where i can convert .swf files into .mp3 files?
[06:18] <codebrainz> th2, is that correct UUID?
[06:18] <codebrainz> ridin, avidemux should
[06:18] <yessir_turan> I have a .gnome2/session while with entry for yakuake
[06:19] <th2> codebrainz, how do i check that
[06:19] <codebrainz> th2, do you know the device name (ie. /dev/sda4)
[06:20] <th2> codebrainz, yes
[06:20] <yessir_turan> I added it using gnome-session-properties, but that doesn't help either.
[06:20] <codebrainz> th2, then     ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid | grep /dev/sdaX
[06:20] <codebrainz> th2, where sdaX is you device name
[06:20] <yessir_turan> anybody please?
[06:21] <codebrainz> yessir_turan, no startup programs run?
[06:21] <yessir_turan> codebrainz: none that I've added do.
[06:21] <codebrainz> yessir_turan, try the 'command' from the terminal and see if they run then
[06:22] <yessir_turan> codebrainz: yes it does.
[06:23] <Alan502> So what's the difference between a tunnel and a proxy?
[06:23] <crdlb> yessir_turan: ~/.gnome2/session hasn't been used for a while, but the GUI should work (it puts items in ~/.config/autostart/)
[06:23] <yessir_turan> crdlb: there is an entry in there too.
[06:23] <ridin> codebrainz, avidemux can't open the file, do you know another?
[06:24] <yessir_turan> Alan502: proxy is usually application level, it sends a modified request. tunnel is ip layer level, it changes your ip packet headers.
[06:24] <th2> codebrainz, that returns nothing :(
[06:24] <codebrainz> ridin, pitivi, kino, kdenlive
[06:24] <yessir_turan> crdlb: the Exec entry shows /usr/bin/yakuake, but it doesn't work.
[06:25] <yessir_turan> crdlb: codebrainz:, are there any logs of autostart that i should check?
[06:25] <Alan502> yessir_turan, ah i see, but they perform about the same task right?
[06:25] <codebrainz> th2, try just    ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[06:25] <crdlb> yessir_turan: ~/.xsession-errors perhaps
[06:25] <Alan502> yessir_turan, in what environments should proxy/tunnel be used?
[06:25] <th2> codebrainz, now I see
[06:26] <th2> codebrainz, and thats not the same...
[06:26] <codebrainz> th2, make sure that matches up with what's in /etc/fstab
[06:26] <yessir_turan> Alan502: proxy can usually allow only those protcols for which it opens ports, e.g. it won't allow imap if it doesn't have to. No such things with tunneling.
[06:27] <Alan502> yessir_turan, ah that's a lot of help, thanks! :)
[06:27] <yessir_turan> crdlb: thank you :)  This is what I found: gnome-session[31742]: WARNING: Could not parse desktop file /users/mti2006/ashishag/.config/autostart/yakuake.desktop: Key file does not have key 'Type'
[06:27] <yessir_turan> Alan502: No problem. feel free to ask :)
[06:27] <yessir_turan> crdlb: I'll look at the entry and let you know
[06:28] <crdlb> yessir_turan: it should have Type=Application, but the easiest thing it to delete it and create it from scratch again
[06:28] <th2> codebrainz, heres the problem: # swap was on /dev/sdb8 during installation
[06:29] <th2> codebrainz, should have checked fstab first... never learn
[06:29] <yessir_turan> crdlb: Okay. Thanks for the help :) It should work on next start :)
[06:33] <joshmuffin> hey all I just added ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa and ran apt-get upgrade because i was trying to get gnome-shell to work now i cant boot, gets stuck on ubuntu splash
[06:34] <joshmuffin> https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[06:35] <tzily> Hello, What is the command to reset my PPPOE connection? I need a new ip (it's dynamic) and unplugging and plugging the cable back leaves me without a connection until restart. Cand't find anything about this on google.
[06:35] <tzily> It was more easy in windows ...
[06:35] <bambam_> Hi
[06:36] <joshmuffin> !opinion | tzily
[06:37] <joshmuffin> tzily, it was only easier because you already new how
[06:37] <tzily> what?
[06:37] <tzily> and how should i know how this works on linux
[06:38] <shishire> codebrainz, found the solution.  Basically the DBUS variable isn't set correctly, so gconftool-2 can't find the correct gconfd process to send the reload signal to.  So it changes the config, but silently fails to update it.  By setting the DBUS variable correctly, I'm able to get it to send the signal to the right process and voila!  My idle delay for screensaver is now 60 min at home, and 10 everywhere else :D.
[06:38] <SwedeMike> tzily: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[06:38] <tzily> that's why i came on the support channel to ask
[06:38] <joshmuffin> tzily, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+reset+PPPOE+connection
[06:38] <froes> anyone have any ideas of how to reload all the system environment variables without restarting the linux server ????
[06:39] <codebrainz> shishire, cool.  now write a patch for nm-applet to add this functionality :)
[06:39] <codebrainz> seems useful
[06:40] <tzily> joshmuffin, if you check that link you will see you have no right results, like i said i already searched google
[06:40] <shishire> codebrainz, hmmm... good idea.  I'll think about implementing that :D.  In the meantime, I'll stick the script up on my blog with instructions on how to use it.
[06:40] <IdleOne> !lmgtfy | joshmuffin
[06:41] <tzily> SwedeMike, thanks mate. i searched wrong. looks like there is no reset. it's stop and start :) that's why there were no results
[06:41] <IdleOne> that includes lmgtfy
[06:41] <codebrainz> shishire, port it to python, there's python-gnome and python-dbus and such, plus python-pygtk for writing a simple panel applet :)
[06:41] <Fandekasp> hi
[06:41] <shishire> codebrainz, heh, now I have a good reason to learn python :P
[06:42] <miststlkr> 'allo all
[06:44] <Fandekasp> I have a problem with the bicyclerepair man tool ... I've installed it with "sudo aptitude install bicyclerepair", and it has been installed. But I can't use it with vim, so I've probably missed something, and I don't know what. Do you know what should I do ?
[06:52] <joshmuffin> tzily, IdleOne sorry
[06:53] <miststlkr> is there a way to not have removable hard drive icons automatically added to the desktop in 10.04?
[06:53] <joshmuffin> miststlkr, install ubuntu-tweak
[06:54] <SilentDis> hello, I'm trying to get kismet working in 10.04, how can i tell what driver/card type i'm using for wifi?
[06:54] <miststlkr> joshmuffin - thanks, mate!
[06:54] <SilentDis> !kismet
[06:55] <joshmuffin> miststlkr,Uncheck "show mounted volumes on the desktop"
[06:55] <joshmuffin> !wifi | SilentDis
[06:55] <SilentDis> joshmuffin: thank you, giving it a lookover now :)
[06:56] <codebrainz> miststlkr, or go in gconf-editor and uncheck stuff under /apps/nautilus/desktop dir
[06:56] <joshmuffin> SilentDis,is it a USB or Card?
[06:57] <SilentDis> joshmuffin: built-in to an acer aspireone netbook
[06:57] <joshmuffin>  /exec lspci -v | less in xchat window
[06:57] <joshmuffin>  /exec lspci -v | less            -in xchat window**
[06:57] <miststlkr> codebrainz - I'll have a peek at that too, thanks!
[06:58] <SilentDis> joshmuffin: no need for the /exec, it's sitting next to me, I'm sitting on the desktop hehe
[06:59] <joshmuffin> yeah but im expecting to help you further with driver patching ect so i thaught i may aswell find out your card type in advance
[06:59] <SilentDis> joshmuffin: rockin.  Atheros on the ath5k driver.  thanks muchly!
[06:59] <miststlkr> codebrainz - that was the one I was looking for.  I had done that on an old install and forgot where it was... That's a good one to remember...
[07:00] <joshmuffin> SilentDis, do you need help with kismet ?
[07:01] <SilentDis> joshmuffin: just getting it setup now, got a remote machine on my wifi setup to gen traffic, i'm sshed into it, etc.  i want to see how it all works :)
[07:01] <joshmuffin> Ah okay, well just tell me if you need any help
[07:02] <SilentDis> joshmuffin: thanks!  ^_^
[07:03] <alissa> are there any ubuntu iso's that will start up with output to the serial console?  i would like to avoid making my own if possible.
[07:03] <SilentDis> joshmuffin: aha, network manager no likey me do this, it appears....  hrm...
[07:04] <codebrainz> alissa, it's a kernel option, all the ubuntu cd's can do it with changing the kernel options
[07:04] <ljsoftnet> anybody here?
[07:04] <codebrainz> alissa, i believe it's console=/dev/ttyS0 or some such
[07:04] <codebrainz> depending on your port
[07:04] <SilentDis> joshmuffin: I know i can kill off network manager and such... but isn't there a way to spawn a 'fake' card in monitor mode for kismet to use?
[07:04] <ljsoftnet> can i move gnome window text to the left?
[07:05] <alissa> codebrainz: yep, i know the kernel options.  but i want to make sure that i will be able to see that initial menu/command line so i can type the options.  i have no physical access to this computer.
[07:05] <miststlkr> One other question, if I may push my luck.. in Mythbuntu they added the Applications menu to the desktop context menu.  How might I go about doing that?
[07:05] <codebrainz> alissa, oh i see, I've never tested whether there's a fallback for the gfx boot screen, guessing here is
[07:06] <trupheenix> i installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu
[07:06] <trupheenix> it changed my bootsplash
[07:06] <trupheenix> how do i revert to the ubuntu bootsplash?
[07:07] <alissa> codebrainz: yeah, i am sure hoping there is.  but wish i could find some documentation about it to be sure.
[07:08] <SilentDis> trupheenix: someone correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe `sudo tasksel ubuntu-desktop` can do it.  probably a much easier and less heavy handed method too.
[07:09] <trupheenix> SilentDis: ok
[07:10] <trupheenix> SilentDis: what option should i give to tasksel?
[07:10] <ljsoftnet> can i move gnome window text to the left?
[07:11] <SilentDis> trupheenix: it's been a long time since i've had to muck with that myself...  i believe `sudo tasksel` will allow you to pick-n-choose from a little menu, though.  just make sure there's a * next to Ubuntu Desktop and OK your way out.
[07:11] <crdlb> ljsoftnet: I don't know what you mean by that
[07:12] <hey_joe> just out of curiosity, if one was to install using say, 6.10 server, is it possible to upgrade all the way up?
[07:12] <Baribal> Hi. I just created a new swap partition and want to modify /etc/fstab to use the new instead of the old one. Partitions are referenced by UUID in fstab. How do I figure out the new swaps UUID?
[07:13] <crdlb> hey_joe: not realistically; the supported path is 6.10>7.04>7.10>8.04>10.04
[07:13] <Flannel> Baribal: `sudo blkid` will list them
[07:13] <ljsoftnet> crdlb: im talking about, the text on the window of an application like this " * Firefox - Mozilla                                    - [] x"
[07:13] <IdleOne> 6.10 being EOL complicates that
[07:13] <SilentDis> hey_joe: Yes, but you've got ~500MiB*8 to download heh
[07:14] <hey_joe> hrm, well 4 gigs is nothing..
[07:14] <hey_joe> but i see your point
[07:14] <SilentDis> hey_joe: just think of the poor, pained servers you're about to torture!  that's 4GiB of pr0n that will download slower for me! ;)
[07:14] <crdlb> ljsoftnet: the alignment of that text is determined by your window border theme
[07:14] <IdleOne> hey_joe: then why not just download 10.04
[07:15] <IdleOne> !ohmy | SilentDis
[07:15] <trupheenix> SilentDis: that didn't work
[07:15] <trupheenix> SilentDis: i can't get replace the kubuntu bootsplash with the regular ubuntu one :(
[07:15] <Baribal> Flannel, that left out that partition. Is there something like mkfs.swap that I could have missed out after cfdisk?
[07:15] <hey_joe> because 10.04 won't work..
[07:15] <hey_joe> i need to go from 6.10 to 8.04 maybe 8.10
[07:15] <ljsoftnet> crdlb: you know any window border theme, with left window text?
[07:15] <Alcohol52> [trupheenix] how about making gdm default desktop manager?
[07:15] <hey_joe> which is only 2 gigs ;-)
[07:15] <SilentDis> trupheenix: It 'worked' for me way way back in 8.04 when i went from Gnome to KDE, but that was a while ago, and it may not quite be the same anymore.  sorry :(
[07:15] <crdlb> ljsoftnet: how is it aligned now?
[07:16] <trupheenix> Alcohol52: nope doesn't work
[07:16] <ljsoftnet> crdlb: its in the middle
[07:16] <IdleOne> hey_joe: I don't understand why you want to install 6.10 then upgrade. download 8.04 or 8.10 and install
[07:16] <Baribal> Flannel, nevermind, yes there is.
[07:16] <Flannel> Baribal: You do need to mkswap, but you shouldn't need to do that to have the partition show up.  This page might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[07:16] <SilentDis> IdleOne: sorry, was just trying to illustrate the bandwidth concerns in a comical manor ;)
[07:16] <trupheenix> Alcohol52: i am using GDM at the moment. i want some consistency in appearance. not liking the kubuntu splash screen.
[07:16] <hey_joe> IdleOne: because I am anxious, and with internet, and without media. for at least a few days...
[07:17] <hey_joe> any good tools to get a cd image bootable onto a flash drive?
[07:17] <IdleOne> !usb
[07:17] <SilentDis> hey_joe: There's one included in the install, and live CD of 10.04.  :)
[07:17] <miststlkr> IdleOne LOL.. THAT common, eh?
[07:17] <hey_joe> yikes
[07:17] <crdlb> ljsoftnet: one example is 'Mist', but it is very plain; you should be able to edit your current theme
[07:17] <Alcohol52> [trupheenix] you got me wrong. What is your default desktop manager? Which one you choose while installing kde-desktop?
[07:18] <hey_joe> and this will all work on *8.04* right
[07:18] <ljsoftnet> crdlb: you know how to edit?
[07:18] <Alcohol52> [trupheenix] Have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm. It worked for me
[07:18] <trupheenix> Alcohol52: whether i choose KDE or GNOME, i get the Kubuntu bootsplash when i shut down
[07:18] <hey_joe> like all the other how-tos say.. but are wrong.
[07:18] <RudyValencia> Why does the GNOME panel not appear?
[07:18] <miststlkr> hey_joe I went to pendrive linux website and did it their way, running 10.04 that way right now on my netbook
[07:18] <trupheenix> Alcohol52: yes!
[07:18] <crdlb> ljsoftnet: what is the name of the window border theme you are using?
[07:18] <SilentDis> hey_joe: I'm just curious, why the older versions?
[07:18] <trupheenix> Alcohol52: i'm on lucid lynx
[07:18] <hey_joe> SilentDis: ldap
[07:19] <hey_joe> pain in my ass.
[07:19] <SilentDis> hey_joe: ahhh :)
[07:19] <Niglop> Going into to a folder of a dvd that a put in, showing the video and audio ts folders, how do I autoplay it?
[07:19] <ljsoftnet> crdlb: metabox
[07:19] <IdleOne> !language > hey_joe
[07:19] <RudyValencia> Hey, why does my GNOME panel not appear after I log in, unless I do "killall gnome-panel"?
[07:19] <hey_joe> ubottu: your not real.. i refuse to answer private messages from spam bots.
[07:19] <SilentDis> !restrictedformats | Niglop
[07:19] <IdleOne> !language | hey_joe
[07:19] <hey_joe> ubottu: especially ones that can't respond.
[07:20] <Niglop> its not an issue, its a simple question im asking how to autoplay
[07:20] <th2> !language > th2
[07:20] <Baribal> The partition doesn't even show up in /dev/ (though other partitions on that disk do). Does /dev/ need some kind of... refresh?
[07:21] <crdlb> ljsoftnet: ok, so the first step is to cp -R /usr/share/themes/Metabox/ ~/.themes/
[07:21] <SilentDis> Niglop: as in, put a DVD in, and vlc/whatever your favorite media player is comes up and just starts with the DVD goodness?
[07:21] <iflema> trupheenix in a terminal    sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[07:21] <Niglop> yeah SilentDis  but its opening in mplayer, i want to run it in vlc
[07:21] <crdlb> ljsoftnet: if that fails, you need to mkdir ~/.themes/
[07:21] <trupheenix> iflema: ok
[07:21] <lucidity> yeah problems with irc software here
[07:21] <RudyValencia> Why does my GNOME panel not appear after I log in, unless I do "killall gnome-panel"? It's getting annoying.
[07:22] <iflema> trupheenix should give you a menu to select from....
[07:22] <SilentDis> Niglop: aha, I will be honest, I am a KDE user (shh, don't tell anyone, i'm trying to get kismet workin'), so things are a little different here.  kde offers a control panel dealy to set stuff like that, i'm certain there's something similar in gnome's System menu though :)
[07:22] <hrp2171> Hi.  is it possible to use ultimate edition themes in 10.04?
[07:22] <trupheenix> iflema: update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for usplash-artwork.so.
[07:23] <Niglop> SilentDis>  i use xfce
[07:23] <SilentDis> Niglop: I won't tell if you don't :D
[07:23] <Niglop> ll
[07:24] <iflema> trupheenix lucid lynx 10.04?
[07:24] <trupheenix> iflema: yes sir
[07:25] <iflema> trupheenix sorry...  that used to work....
[07:27] <miststlkr> any tips on adding the Applications menu to the GNOME desktop context menu in 10.04 as they did in Mythbuntu under X?
[07:27] <Niglop> http://www.pooploops.com/loops/loop.php?id=32
[07:27] <Niglop> LMAO, wrong channel sorry
[07:28] <trupheenix> iflema: :(
[07:28] <^Jay2^> why is it that when i plug in my external drive with an icon for it, the icon on my desktop is like a txt file or something???
[07:29] <Baribal> How can I force the kernel to reread the partition table of a drive?
[07:31] <SilentDis> yay!  kismet workin', now on to aircrack and the like :D
[07:32] <^Jay2^> SilentDis, what is kismet?
[07:32] <SilentDis> ^Jay2^: WiFi packet sniffer :)
[07:32] <^Jay2^> oh
[07:32] <reeniginEesreveR> how can i port forward with iptables such that all my traffic on port 2525 goes to port 25?
[07:33] <^Jay2^> is there an airoscript in ubuntu?
[07:33] <codebrainz> miststlkr, the window/desktop manager handles this
[07:38] <iflema> trupheenix wanna try another one.... there was a recent change i overlooked, try    sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[07:38] <Anom01y> SilentDis, I am trying to set up kismet
[07:38] <Anom01y> just for experimentation
[07:39] <mkquist> channel blown out from the spam?
[07:39] <mkquist> usually alot more activity...
[07:39] <SilentDis> Anom01y: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/kismet-an-802-11-wireless-network-detector-sniffer-and-intrusion-detection-system.html this guide helped me tons.
[07:39] <Anom01y> SilentDis, cool thanks
[07:40] <Fudge> still having problems with wpa_supplicant, anyone able to assist please?
[07:40] <SilentDis> Anom01y: another wonderful person on here showed me `lspci -v | less` to get my wifi card info, too :D
[07:40] <Error404NotFound> I am using an EDGE usb to connect to internet, can i share this connection over wireless? My laptop does have a wireless card.
[07:41] <SilentDis> Error404NotFound: Yes.  Once you're on, it's basically an internet connection you want to share out.  The guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ShareEthernetConnectionThroughWireless should help (just rather than eth0, you'll be sharing ppp0 or the like)
[07:42] <uwjames> hey folks, I'm having issues with my atheros ar5001. Scan doesn
[07:42] <uwjames> show my networks
[07:42] <uwjames> the whole sob story is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1520021&highlight=ar5001
[07:42] <Fudge> think i have the same card uwjames
[07:43] <uwjames> :) I'm not even sure what card it is.. other than the chipset. Did ath5k work for you?
[07:43] <Error404NotFound> SilentDis, i tried that but my ppp0 doesn't have an IP from private subnet, which is required by the docs, "The Server's wireless0 has to be in a range of 192.168.x.2 and 192.168.x.24. Why? our computer is usually using 192.168.0.1 unless you're on a big network, 192.168.0.0 can't be used for it and ranges higher than 24 in the last number are only allowed for Wireless networking,(1.reference please) or so I've read.".
[07:44] <Fudge> this is a netgear 108 card and it appears with no extra driver in the driver base
[07:45] <danmichel> anybodu here use skype? im trying to make skype use my other sound card, but the only options in the drop-down is 'PulseAudio server local'
[07:45] <Error404NotFound> SilentDis, okay, got it..
[07:45] <SilentDis> Error404NotFound: the 'server', in that sentance, is your computer.  I believe it's a limitation of firestarter (just how it works), and you set a static ip on wlan0 on the server (your) computer is all.
[07:46] <xpbootusb_> sup?
[07:46] <SwedeMike> danmichel: I can move the sound of skype between ports using the audio settings in system
[07:46] <uwjames> @fudge... yeah the 5001 is in a lot of gear
[07:46] <SwedeMike> danmichel: so you can't change it in skype, you have to use the system wide settings tool
[07:46] <danmichel> SwedeMike, i cant do that. the option is not there
[07:46] <xpbootusb_> i'm booted into 8.04 live cd, i would like to make an xp iso fresh install boot from usb??
[07:47] <SwedeMike> danmichel: what option is not there?
[07:47] <danmichel> SwedeMike, the applications tab under sound is empty
[07:47] <uwjames> @fudge I discovered that when I was trying to find a good driver for ndiswrapper
[07:47] <SwedeMike> danmichel: not application, hw input and output tab.
[07:48] <danmichel> SwedeMike, but then i'd have to use my headphones for universal sound on my system
[07:48] <damian_-_> is there a program i can use to turn an mp3 + image into a video for youtube. im a  musician
[07:48] <xpbootusb_> shouldnt it just be able to extract it to the usb, then make it bootable..and it should boot correct?
[07:48] <iKernel> I'm trying to install an i386 package but it won't let me, saying wrong architecture i386. I have an x86_64 system, obviously 32-bit programs run on 64-bit operating system, so how do I make it let me install the package?
[07:49] <iflema> trupheenix that last one works....
[07:49] <xpbootusb_> you d/l the amd64 bit version
[07:49] <codebrainz> damian_-_, avidemux should be able to do it
[07:49] <SilentDis> iKernel: I assume you're trying to install a .deb package from somewhere?  is this correct?
[07:49] <iKernel> SilentDis, yes
[07:49] <xpbootusb_> the 64bit version will run 32bit apps it won't run 32 bit os's
[07:50] <miststlkr> hmm... I just accidentally removed something from my panel, I thought it was the notification area, but when i re-added one it is blank.   what do i add back to get, for example, the rythmbox icon, the volume control, etc?
[07:50] <drowner1979> hi everyone. Dumb question: i just modified my fstab, is it safe to run "sudo mount -a" ? I mean, will it cause my root partition to remount?
[07:50] <iKernel> xpbootusb_, there isn't one or else i wouldn't be asking... say, how do you boot XP from a usb disk?
[07:50] <SilentDis> iKernel: if the program is compiled to strictly use the 32bit libraries, it probably won't work on a 64bit install.  what app are you attempting to install?
[07:50] <iflema> miststlkr indicator-applet
[07:50] <iKernel> SilentDis, a modified version of xqf. I tried compiling it but I got an error.
[07:50] <damian_-_> ahh thanks il check it out
[07:51] <rileyp> lucid stops booting at initramfs
[07:51] <xpbootusb_> i'm trying to figure that ou ikernal..
[07:51] <miststlkr> iflema: CHEERS!!!
[07:51] <SilentDis> iKernel: I'd say diagnose the error in the compile, rather than attempt a .deb that isn't either 'universal' or specified.
[07:51] <rileyp> aafter botting to muy karmic partition
[07:51] <iKernel> yeah alright
[07:51] <xpbootusb_> but i know 64 bit os's run on 64 bit systems..but use vitualization to run 32bit apps in 54-bit
[07:51] <iKernel> SilentDis, looks like I'll have to get help with this one though
[07:52] <xpbootusb_> if you have a 386-64 the amd64bit version is the package you want to install
[07:53] <drowner1979> i will try one more time....
[07:53] <drowner1979> hi everyone. Dumb question: i just modified my fstab, is it safe to run "sudo mount -a" ? I mean, will it cause my root partition to remount?
[07:53] <SilentDis> iKernel: semi-unrelated, but darn you. my wow server is down for 24 hrs, the Starcraft2 beta is done, and i'm gonna be totally bored tomorrow (my day off).  you've now given me reason to live, play UT/Quake/etc.  lol
[07:53] <rileyp> lucid stops booting at initramfs after booting from my karmic partition Can anyone help me with this
[07:53] <xpbootusb_> lol
[07:53] <iKernel> xpbootusb_, again, there isn't an amd64bit version of the package or else i wouldn't be asking. oh, and do tell me how one boots xp from a usb disk
[07:53] <xpbootusb_> i have no mouse so i can't play tremolus xc
[07:53] <codebrainz> rileyp, does it spit out any errors?
[07:54] <rileyp> it says /sbin/init is missing
[07:54] <SilentDis> !troll | xpbootusb_
[07:54] <xpbootusb_> kernal ubuntu has a 64bit version..
[07:54] <rileyp> and a few other things  Im not at it right now
[07:54] <xpbootusb_> !mute/ignore silentdis
[07:55] <codebrainz> rileyp, hard to help if you can't say what errors it display, it could be a number of things
[07:55] <xpbootusb_> i'm just saying that ubuntu has a 64-bit version that is on their site...you should try that os...unless your not refering to ubuntu os..
[07:55] <rileyp> It first says failed to mount kernal on uuid blah blah bla as root
[07:55] <damian_-_> sudo synaptic
[07:56] <damian_-_> ahh wrong window
[07:56] <damian_-_> lol
[07:56] <codebrainz> rileyp, did you mess around with your hard drive(s) or partition(s)?
[07:56] <rileyp> no i have karmic on sda5 lucid on sda3 swap on sda 1
[07:57] <rileyp> lvm on sda 6
[07:57] <joshmuffin> hey all I just added ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa and ran apt-get upgrade because i was trying to get gnome-shell to work now i cant boot, gets stuck on ubuntu splash
[07:57] <codebrainz> rileyp, and you didn't muck around with the partitions?
[07:57] <rileyp> lucid has been working fine for about 3 weeks
[07:58] <indus> anyone knows how to get sound direct from the tuner card and not from the cable which goes from it into the motherboard
[07:58] <rileyp> i went and booted from my karmic partition to pick up a few bits of code i was after
[07:58] <xpbootusb_> plug into the ports on the card itself
[07:58] <rileyp> and then on reboot back to karmic it failed to boot
[07:59] <xpbootusb_> that cable that goes into the motherboard could simply be routeing sound and usb features to another panel on the pc
[07:59] <rileyp> Its like when karmic booted and ran its checks it upset lucid
[07:59] <xpbootusb_> it should work both ways
[08:00] <rileyp> and now lucid is missing bits
[08:00] <xpbootusb_> riley are these on the samee partition?
[08:00] <xpbootusb_> or hard drive?
[08:01] <rileyp> yes all on a 500g wd drive
[08:01] <Fudge> yeah uwjames  athk5
[08:01] <codebrainz> rileyp, in Grub (press esc or shift to show it on boot), edit the kernel line and replace the UUID= just with your /dev/sdX
[08:02] <xpbootusb_> when you update an os on the same hd it overrides previous versions...this will conflict with the older ones..grub and ubuntu will want the newest shell loading..if each install had it's own partiton this would be prevented and qwould each be bootable
[08:02] <renehollan> anyone have luck with postfix-policyd install on 10.04?
[08:02] <rileyp> codebrainz can iI run update grub in karmic to fix it?
[08:03] <rileyp> As yesd it seems the uuid is wrong like you suggest
[08:03] <xpbootusb_> you'll need to instal the other versions on a new partiton..and repair lucid
[08:03] <uwjames> @Fudge good to know. Maybe I need to roll back the madwifi and give ath5k another go
[08:04] <xpbootusb_> but go with others adivice of course..i'm quite noob
[08:04] <codebrainz> xpbootusb_, they are on each their own partition
[08:04] <xpbootusb_> good
[08:04] <rileyp> xpbootusb_,  karemic is on sda 5 and lucid on sda2 or 3
[08:04] <mshadle> does anyone here have vmware server 2.0.2 working under 10.04 properly? mine just randomly stopped working.
[08:05] <codebrainz> rileyp, i guess update-grub will do his damage each time you run it, not sure how to configure it not to use UUID other than hand editing the grub.cfg file
[08:05] <Aciid> hearly hearly, psad crashes on lucid , if you enable ENABLE_DSHIELD_ALERTS
[08:06] <rileyp> Karmic had exact same problem a while ago lucid would boot  and karmic wouldnt now its changed its undies and its the opposite
[08:06] <jits> hi guys.. i am trying to setup a dual display in ubuntu .. one is via inbuilt and another via a pci card .. but only the card display is being identified .. lshw shows both cards
[08:07] <codebrainz> rileyp, i'm not a fan of grub2's configuration system, I prefer lilo or grub-legacy where you were meant to manually configure it
[08:08] <MACscr> after i updated ubuntu this evening, jvm no longer works. Any tips? One of my java apps cant seem to find jvm
[08:08] <codebrainz> rileyp, under /etc/default/grub file uncomment the line GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true
[08:08] <rileyp> grub2 has always worked good for me but I think when I installed lucid i put grub in the wrong spot and its upset the apple cart
[08:09] <codebrainz> rileyp, i think both versions have their own idea of what the UUID should be maybe
[08:09] <rileyp> codebrainz yes this sound like the problem
[08:09] <xpbootusb_> ok i'm attempting an extraction of the iso i want to be bootable to the usb drive...then i'll make it bootable...should this let me install xp on boot via usb?
[08:10] <codebrainz> rileyp, so the above *should* make grub use the /dev/sdX type device naming
[08:10] <rileyp> I remember after grub was installed after installing lucid it said you should not have put grub here...
[08:10] <codebrainz> rileyp, that's probably from installing grub into a partition
[08:10] <rileyp> well it was all to late then.. If only gthe grub installer told me that before it installed
[08:10] <xpbootusb_> you try removeing and re-installing java? and its headers?
[08:11] <xpbootusb_> riley you find a resolution?
[08:11] <codebrainz> rileyp, it shouldn't matter, as long as the one in the MBR of the disk is configured properly
[08:12] <rileyp> xpbootusb Im happy to talk about it a bit before I run off and truley kill my server
[08:12] <xpbootusb_> haha
[08:12] <xpbootusb_> yea, if it fixes it i'd like to know.. i could possibly suggest it for other similar situations
[08:14] <mshadle> why did vmware change 2.x to suck
[08:14] <xpbootusb_> ??
[08:14] <codebrainz> mshadle, it always sucked :)
[08:14] <xpbootusb_> define "suck"
[08:14] <xpbootusb_> xD
[08:14] <ryuslash> hello everyone
[08:15] <xpbootusb_> wazuuuup
[08:15] <mshadle> 1.x had a nice client side console. this web one is all messed up, heavy on java, so many browsers hate it, it decided just to stop working for me and i can't find any decent help for it.
[08:15] <renehollan> 'lo
[08:15] <codebrainz> mshadle, yeah, i made it about 5 seconds with that version, i couldn't take it
[08:15] <renehollan> any way to get apt-get to give more hints when a post-install script barfs?
[08:15] <joshmuffin> !apt-get
[08:15] <xpbootusb_> -v?
[08:15] <mshadle> i cant run less than 2 now, 1.x doesn't seem to work anymore on modern ubuntus
[08:15] <renehollan> -v gives version info
[08:16] <rileyp> codebrainz,  If i were to install lucid or karmic onto a free partition would this fix it?
[08:16] <codebrainz> mshadle, ever tried vbox?
[08:16] <iKernel> Is it possible to still get a working glib-config script? It's deprecated and now replaced with pkg-config but this older program I'm trying to compile relies on it.
[08:16] <codebrainz> rileyp, it's much easier to fix than that
[08:16] <mshadle> ubuntu 8.04 maybe 8.10 worked with 1.x rck solid
[08:16] <xpbootusb_> 0.o oh, i'm used to it giving verbose infomation like with lshw??
[08:16] <renehollan> subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 10
[08:16] <renehollan> like THAT's helpful
[08:17] <mshadle> vbox doesn't run as a service really.. and yes i've tried them all.
[08:17] <rileyp> I know that but Im looking for an way out and if I can put grab back to whre it shpuld be in the process another lucid part wont hurt when things fallover if the y happen to
[08:17] <codebrainz> mshadle, yeah, i have very specific/limited use for VMs ... although I'm sure you could get vbox to do it
[08:17] <iKernel> What would REALLY be helpful is if I can still get libglib1.2 ...
[08:18] <xpbootusb_> is there a way to make an xp boot usb stick.. in ubuntu??
[08:19] <iKernel> xpbootusb_, probably :)
[08:19] <xpbootusb_> someone told me i need winPE or bart... but i havent found a good d/l for them
[08:19] <rileyp> xpbootusb_,  thats like saying can I swap my mercedes for a scoda!
[08:19] <xpbootusb_> well you could...
[08:19] <codebrainz> rileyp, you need to login to each ubuntu version, do a grub-install /dev/sdX then edit /etc/default/grub and make the change i just said, then run update-grub, do this in both versions, you should be golden
[08:19] <xerox1> is there an alternative for mcabber that supports multiple accounts?
[08:20] <xpbootusb_> the scoda isn't as bloted xD
[08:21] <xpbootusb_> if ubuntu ran everything that windows did and more...it would be buggati vs toyota lol
[08:21] <rileyp> codebrainz, when i log into lucid it stalls at intitramfs is this enough to be able to upfdet grub
[08:22] <codebrainz> rileyp, change the UUID= part in grub menu manually each time until you log into each and do the fixes, afterwards it will boot properly
[08:22] <xpbootusb_> espeacially the ubuntustudio version with rt kernal
[08:22] <xpbootusb_> i'm loving that
[08:23] <xpbootusb_> it's over cloacked p4 too..it's niice
[08:23] <rileyp> codebrainz,  ah ok so i get the uuid of my lucid partition then edit grub manually log in the update grub
[08:23] <rileyp> sorry then update grub with the info you suggest
[08:24] <no-name-> ubuntu 64 bit. how do i get the right flash? installed it from software center. plays but doesn't let me pause or change volume. doesn't let me play if its a video on a page that doesn't play automatically
[08:24] <codebrainz> rileyp, in grub on boot, replace UUID=blah with /dev/yourpartition once booted in, do the things i said
[08:24] <xpbootusb_> interesting
[08:25] <xpbootusb_> which java port you using?
[08:25] <no-name-> xpbootusb_: how do i find out?
[08:25] <codebrainz> no-name-, interestingly, if you right click over the play button, then with the menu up, quickly left click, it will press play right?
[08:25] <no-name-> codebrainz: let me see, i'll find a page
[08:26] <xpbootusb_> well the offical java, the openjava, or iced tea.. it's usually pretty easy..they will be checked in the add/remove apps
[08:26] <rileyp> codebrainz, thnaks very much for your help Ill have a crack after dinner ~ half an hour
[08:26] <codebrainz> rileyp, np, good luck
[08:27] <joshmuffin> hey all I just added ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa and ran apt-get upgrade because i was trying to get gnome-shell to work now i cant boot, gets stuck on ubuntu splash
[08:27] <no-name-> xpbootusb_: OpenJDK 6 Java Runtime and OpenJDK Java Database
[08:27] <xpbootusb_> i've had best luck on my 32.bit system with the openjdk..the other 2 mess up in numerous ways
[08:27] <xpbootusb_> hmm
[08:27] <no-name-> yea, but i have 4 GB ram so i wanna use 64 :(
[08:27] <codebrainz> joshmuffin, is it running  a fsck or something?
[08:28] <chadi> no-name-: use 32 with pae
[08:28] <featherofmaat> hi everyone, i have the n00biest question ever.
[08:28] <xpbootusb_> java is a 32bit app??
[08:28] <joshmuffin> codebrainz, its stuck on the purple and yellow "ubuntu" slpash
[08:28] <codebrainz> no-name-, it's actually a flash bug (http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-flash-is-not-recognizing-mouse-clicks.html)
[08:28] <xpbootusb_> i don't know of a 64-bit java...
[08:28] <no-name-> chadi: physical address extension?
[08:29] <featherofmaat> is it now very safe to mount an NTFS partition under Jaunty?
[08:29] <xpbootusb_> ^^yes
[08:29] <joshmuffin> it freezes with all four dots red (indicating complete)
[08:29] <codebrainz> joshmuffin, is your hard drive light flashing?  does pressing Esc do anything
[08:29] <no-name-> codebrainz: thank you. i will try what the webpage suggests and then get back to you
[08:30] <joshmuffin> Its a desktop, no but Ctrl + Alt + Del restarts the machine
[08:31] <Jordan_U> featherofmaat: Why are you still using jaunty?
[08:31] <chadi> no-name- yes
[08:31] <codebrainz> joshmuffin, not sure, you could try reinstalling gdm, sounds like that's where it's stuck
[08:31] <joshmuffin> codebrainz, Ive been holding down shift then booting into recovery mode and then selecting restart X option to get into the machine but its not a good fix
[08:32] <joshmuffin> !life
[08:32] <xpbootusb_> ah ok there is a 64bit version of java..cool
[08:33] <xpbootusb_> ahaha
[08:34] <xpbootusb_> !learn
[08:34] <xpbootusb_> !evolve
[08:34] <KB1JWQ> xpbootusb_: That'll do. :-)
[08:34] <bazhang> xpbootusb_, /msg ubottu
[08:34] <xpbootusb_> XD
[08:35] <xpbootusb_> soon we won't need to be tied to a chair to compute...we'll use our minds and multitask haha
[08:35] <no-name-> whats the difference between gksudo and sudo?
[08:36] <xpbootusb_> ooh, has ubuntu tested brain wave HID's yet?
[08:36] <bazhang> http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo no-name-
[08:36] <iceroot> !gksudo | no-name-
[08:36] <bazhang> xpbootusb_, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:36] <joshmuffin> !botsnack
[08:36] <xpbootusb_> =o
[08:37] <no-name-> thanks bazhang, iceroot
[08:37] <rod> hello!, does anyone know if I need 'msstcorefonts' package for some program to work, if its already installed with ubuntu 10.04 by default? (sorry I am not very experienced)
[08:38] <ljsoftnet> how do i automatically login with my password on xchat when connecting to #ubuntu?
[08:38] <bazhang> rod, you need to install ubuntu-restricted-extras for that
[08:38] <gbjk> Hi. I've just upgraded xubuntu 9.04 to 10.04. I have sound working, however I generally mute some channels (using alsamixer or amixer, whatever) of my sound card to switch music from speakers to headphones. With 10.04 this has stopped working. Muting any channel makes them all muted.
[08:38] <rod> ah thanks bazhang
[08:38] <renehollan> Grrr. no luck with postfix-policyd
[08:38] <bazhang> ljsoftnet, put the username:password in the server field
[08:39] <ljsoftnet> bazhang: where is the server field found?
[08:39] <rod> does ubuntu-restricted-extras install msstcorefonts or does it just allow me to download it? (sorry again !!)
[08:40] <rod>  ** just allow me to install it ** i meant
[08:40] <bazhang> ljsoftnet, xchat network ubuntu servers (edit) server field
[08:40] <bazhang> rod, yes it installs them
[08:40] <rod> thanks again
[08:41] <ljsoftnet> bazhang: thanks
[08:43] <ljsoftnet> is there a video that i can watch, when ubuntu user's day comes?
[08:44] <JackNJ> Is there a GUI tool for touchscreen caliberation?
[08:46] <codebrainz> joshmuffin, (why) are you doing that?
[08:47] <joshmuffin> Gah sorry
[08:47] <jagosix> Hello People
[08:47] <bullgard5> What is the function of the phy0 process on my Ubuntu 10.04 computer?
[08:48] <jagosix> anyone here ever installed ppc ubuntu
[08:48] <joshmuffin> Twas an accident
[08:48] <tsimpson> joshmuffin: stop flooding the floodbot ;)
[08:49] <Gnea> !ppc | jagosix
[08:49] <no-name-> didn't work :(
[08:49] <joshmuffin> who said i was flooding the floodbot
[08:49] <tsimpson> joshmuffin: I see debug info from the bot, I can see
[08:49] <joshmuffin> fair enough
[08:50] <sweetpi> bullgard5: wireless
[08:50] <no-name-> is there a way to run the 32 bit flash and firefox on ubuntu 64bit? (10.04)
[08:50] <tsimpson> !flash64
[08:50] <no-name-> thanks tsimpson
[08:50] <indus> no-name-,well thats how by default ubuntu runs it
[08:51] <codebrainz> no-name-, did you apply the fix and logout/backin?
[08:51] <indus> tsimpson, that factoid should be changed i think due to adobe discontinuing 64 bit due to some security issue
[08:51] <no-name-> codebrainz: lol can't remember
[08:51] <no-name-> i'll do that now
[08:51] <codebrainz> no-name-, it's a specific bug, with an easy fix, i experienced it as well
[08:51] <codebrainz> i didn't think it was in Lucid though
[08:52] <bullgard5> sweetpi: NetworkManager shows that wireless networks are not connected. Why does phy0 still exist?
[08:52] <tsimpson> indus: the factoid point to a wiki page, which anyone (with a Launchpad account) can change
[08:53] <indus> tsimpson, well its an official factoid in officialubuntu irc imo
[08:53] <Jon--> I am looking for a cross-platform torrent solution that would be able to download from both my Windows 7 and my Ubuntu machine with the same .torrent file set to the same directory without issue. Is such a thing impossible? I know this is a bit off topic but it's late and there are few questions
[08:53] <indus> anyways
[08:53] <Fudge> ok guys so gnome network manager connects to my wireless, but wpa_supplicant the ap tiems out and black lists it
[08:54] <no-name-> codebrainz: method 1 didn't work after i restarted and method 2 only removed flash
[08:54] <indus> tsimpson, just asking if the ops have considered issuing a warning
[08:54] <magentar> no-name-, best solution is to run a 32bit browser in a 64bit os
[08:54] <joshmuffin> !bots
[08:54] <no-name-> magentar: how do i do that?
[08:54] <magentar> install one ;)
[08:54] <bazhang> joshmuffin, /msg ubottu
[08:54] <tsimpson> indus: the factoid just points to a link explaining how to install 32bit flash on a 64bit OS (and info for 64bit flash)
[08:54] <no-name-> ok :)
[08:54] <magentar> you can simply download firefox from mozilla.com
[08:54] <joshmuffin> will do sorry
[08:54] <no-name-> of course :P
[08:55] <joshmuffin> Is there rules against flooding in #ubuntu-bots?
[08:55] <indus> does chrome use the firefox plugin directory ?
[08:55] <magentar> no-name: maybe you'll need to install some additional libraries, but then it should work just as well as the 64 bit version
[08:55] <Jon--> indus: No
[08:55] <tsimpson> joshmuffin: depends how much you flood and what mood I'm in
[08:55] <codebrainz> no-name-, it works fine if you apply that fix, I'm 99% sure that's your problem :)
[08:56] <no-name-> i did apply the fix, codebrainz
[08:56] <indus> Jon--, sure ? i have 64 bit google chrome and i have flash playing fine
[08:56] <indus> Jon--, i dont have the 32 bt flash installed
[08:56] <joshmuffin> Oh wait, theres no floodbot in there
[08:56] <no-name-> I don't like chrome
[08:56] <Jon--> indus: Did you mean plugins?
[08:56] <codebrainz> no-name-, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/410407
[08:57] <indus> Jon--, hmm plugin directory
[08:57] <indus> Jon--, isnt that what i said
[08:57] <Jon--> indus: I misread
[08:57] <indus> o
[08:57] <indus> k
[08:57] <Jon--> indus: about:plugins works in both browsers. Go there to see where it is getting it's plugins from
[08:58] <indus> Jon--, ok thanks
[08:58] <Jon--> indus: You'd be correct. My Chrome has Shockwave-flash plugin from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[08:59] <indus> Jon--, :)
[08:59] <bullgard5> What is the function of the phy0 process on my Ubuntu 10.04 computer?
[09:00] <Jon--> I am looking for a cross-platform torrent solution that would be able to download from both my Windows 7 and my Ubuntu machine with the same .torrent file set to the same directory without issue. Is such a thing impossible?
[09:01] <^Jay2^> Hello, does ubuntu have auto load balancing when 2 wifi/2lan are connected to different network segments?
[09:01] <magentar> Jon--, azureus is crossplatform, it should be possible, though i can't give you any details
[09:02] <brontoeee> Jon--, maybe azureus, java it was
[09:03] <indus> Jon--, can windows acess the torrent file from where you placed it?
[09:04] <iflema> jon-- probably not.... have a common download folder (must be on windows, i guess) and execute the stub(s) to restart the download(s) which are not illegal
[09:04] <Jon--> iflema: "which are not illegal" ... Thanks
[09:04] <Jon--> Hmm. I have vuze on Ubuntu right now [it's the rename for Azureus from about a year ago], but I only tried doing mixing with uTorrent. Assuming that they piece files differently and that's the issue? I should try vuze on both
[09:05] <diverse_izzue> hi all. i'm for the first time using ubuntu on intel graphics (with lucid). i thought the intel drivers were mature, but now i cannot connect to my external screen, it just shows "input signal out of range". the same screen on a different machine also running lucid, but with ATI graphics, worked flawlessly. what can i do?
[09:06] <no-name-> I went to mozilla.com and got firefox (only had option for linux not 32bit or 64bit) its a tar.bz2 file i know its an archive but what do i do with files inside it?
[09:06] <Jon--> My issue is I really really love uTorrent but it doesn't run too cleanly under WINE, so my options are Az/Vuze or installing Transmission on Windows.. or something like deluge I suppose
[09:06] <mawst> Does anyone happen to know if photorec can preserve directory structure in it's output?
[09:06] <codebrainz> diverse_izzue, System->Preferences->Monitor and configure the monitor under there
[09:06] <no-name-> Jon--: transmission is good
[09:06] <no-name-> lite and fast
[09:06] <codebrainz> mawst, not sure but i doubt it
[09:07] <diverse_izzue> codebrainz, i got that far...
[09:07] <Jon--> no-name-: I am not a FOSS fanboy.. Transmission is okay. I don't like how it makes filename.part when it's downloading. Makes it completely unusable by any other BT client.
[09:07] <Slart> mawst: I'm not sure, it's been a while since I used it but I think it just gives you all the files.. perhaps it can sort them according to file type though
[09:07] <Jon--> no-name-: The web interface is nice when I'm not at my comp and want to pause
[09:07] <diverse_izzue> codebrainz, xrandr shows the monitor with the correct resolution and refresh rate, but i get no image on the screen.
[09:07] <no-name-> ok
[09:10] <Jon--> The lack of a scheduler, it handles magnet links weird, the DHT seems natively slower at finding new clients than uTorrent, preferences/options are limited... It's a "good enough" BT client for my needs. I may just install Transmission under Windows. Not really a fan of Vuze, way too flashy/tries to do everything.
[09:10] <Jon--> uTorrent dev for Linux would be amazing. :P
[09:12] <joshmuffin> transmission is the fastest torrent client ive found...
[09:12] <joshmuffin> it doesnt have all the fancy features, which in my opinion is a good thing
[09:13] <gryllida> Hi, what is this thing called, when I can select a block of text, then middle click to 'paste' it somewhere else?
[09:13] <joshmuffin> !torrent
[09:14] <joshmuffin> "<BestBot> The BESTEST torrent client is deluge-torrent"
[09:14] <gryllida> XD
[09:14] <joshmuffin> rtorrent is also good in my opinion
[09:14] <tsimpson> !ot | joshmuffin
[09:15] <willwork4foo> Hi all - does anyone know how to get the Networking icon back into the notification area on ubuntu Netbook Edition? I had a problem and needed to remove /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state - and now my networking works again (clearly, coz I am online!) but the icon is gone?
[09:15] <gryllida> tsimpson, isn't joshmuffin answering someone's support question about torrents, why redirecting him to "ot"?
[09:15] <joshmuffin> sorry i was answering a question
[09:16] <tsimpson> gryllida: if the question was "what's the best torrent client", it's offtopic anyway
[09:16] <gryllida> okok
[09:16] <gryllida> willwork4foo, already rebooted?
[09:16] <joshmuffin> "Jon--> My issue is I really really love uTorrent but it doesn't run too cleanly under WINE, so my options are Az/Vuze or installing Transmission on Windows.. or something like deluge I suppose"
[09:16] <willwork4foo> anyone got any clues on the networkmanager icon in Ubuntu netbook? I'd quite like it back so I can use it to manage my wireless connectivity, and it's gone :) gryllida yep several times
[09:17] <joshmuffin> It wasn't an opinion question
[09:17] <willwork4foo> anyone got any clues on the networkmanager icon in Ubuntu netbook? I'd quite like it back so I can use it to manage my wireless connectivity, and it's gone :) gryllida yep several times
[09:17] <gryllida> willwork4foo: ok, we see it
[09:17] <willwork4foo> anyone got any clues on the networkmanager icon in Ubuntu netbook? I'd quite like it back so I can use it to manage my wireless connectivity, and it's gone :) gryllida yep several times
[09:17] <Jon--> tsimpson: Get off your high horse please. He was answering my question.
[09:17] <willwork4foo> woops
[09:17] <willwork4foo> sorry
[09:17] <willwork4foo> didn't mean to do that
[09:17] <tsimpson> Jon--: I have not horse to get off of, now keep it on topic
[09:18] <willwork4foo> weirdly, I now seem to have a virtual host eth1:avahi on my ifconfig list
[09:18] <willwork4foo> is that normal, and I've just never spotted it before?
[09:19] <tsimpson> willwork4foo: that avahi, it's part of "zeroconf". it's used when you connect to a network with no DHCP server so clients can communicate
[09:19] <tsimpson> willwork4foo: normally you don't need it and it does no harm anyway
[09:19] <willwork4foo> tsimpson: fair enough. thanks
[09:20] <willwork4foo> So - I'd really like to get my networkmanager icon back... is it worth just deleting all my dotfiles from my home dir and rebooting, so I get a clean config?
[09:20] <willwork4foo> or will that not fix it?
[09:22] <willwork4foo> I'm going to give that a go. Drastic and annoying though it may be, it's probably the quickest route to fix.
[09:23] <gryllida> oh
[09:23] <airdem> how can i give audio group permission to /dev/raw1394?
[09:23]  * iflema :|
[09:24] <gryllida> airdem, maybe 'man chown' could help
[09:24] <airdem> gryllida, no that will be reverted after reboot
[09:24] <gryllida> oh?
[09:25] <tensa_zangetsu> have it run automatically on each reboot?
[09:25] <willwork4foo> Nope, still doesn't work
[09:25] <gryllida> not the right thing imo
[09:25] <willwork4foo> argh!!!
[09:25] <gryllida> yes?
[09:25] <ryuslash> hello again, I have a problem, I was messing around with my grub config last night and somehow I seem to have messed up my xsession or something because I can only log in using xterm as my session :s
[09:26] <gryllida> ryuslash, run recovery from live cd?
[09:27] <jgb> ryuslash: noooooooooooo don't do that
[09:27] <ryuslash> jgb: how so? :P
[09:27] <jgb> ryuslash: for one, you can just run  start gdm
[09:27] <jgb> ryuslash: to get into gdm first
[09:28] <ryuslash> jgb: gdm starts, X starts too, just when I log in either using GNOME, GNOME (failsafe) or awesome as my session it just doesn't do much
[09:28] <tensa_zangetsu> i have a problem with getting my inbuilt mic to work in skype
[09:29] <tensa_zangetsu> it works well in guvcview (my webcam is a uvc one)
[09:29] <gryllida> sounds like skype problem
[09:30] <tensa_zangetsu> but in skype the sound is always either low or garbled
[09:30] <tensa_zangetsu> yeah
[09:30] <damian_-_>   Something wicked happened resolving 'archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[09:30] <tensa_zangetsu> hopefully now that skype has released some kind of api someone's going to make an open source client
[09:30] <ssn> hi guys
[09:30] <damian_-_> ahh? who knows about this error?
[09:31] <jgb> ryuslash: if you look at /etc/gdm/Xsession you see that xterm gets executed as the default if the other stuff fails
[09:31] <ssn> is there a simple command line way (to use in a script) to add the universe/multiverse/restricted/partner repos?
[09:31] <gryllida> try to look into its options window yet, tensa_zangetsu?
[09:33] <jgb> ryuslash: what happens when you run  gnome-session  from the console?
[09:33] <ryuslash> jgb: I'll try that
[09:33] <willwork4foo> aha!!!!!!! I has FIXED the networkmanager icon issue
[09:33] <magentar> no-name-, extract it and double click on firefox ;)
[09:34] <willwork4foo> I has knowledge to share on how I did it. All you need to do is make sure that there is nothing in the /etc/network/interfaces file after the iface lo inet loopback line
[09:34] <jgb> now I have an issue of my own... cpufreq-selector has stopped having any effect...
[09:34] <willwork4foo> if there is system file config, the networkmanager app won't start.
[09:35] <ryuslash> jgb: gnome starts, but with an endless list of messages of something failing to load it seems
[09:35] <jgb> ryuslash: well I haven't had that yet, so you'll need to tell me what the messages are
[09:36] <tensa_zangetsu> gryllida: i have. audio settings don't offer any choice. all 3 are set to pulseaudio server local and there's nothing else to select. must be a skype problem. a mic in another usb webcam works properly though.
[09:37] <tensa_zangetsu> leaving now
[09:38] <ryuslash> jgb: it's saying something about being unable to load a saved session and that a window manager is already running
[09:40] <gryllida> tensa_zangetsu: I have to admit, skype customer support is awful, they're going to introduce skype for blueberry in may 2009 but haven't done it yet... still, contacting them seems to be the only choice
[09:41] <gryllida> tensa_zangetsu: you can also google <camera model> driver ubuntu, which is unlikely to help much, but might, at least better than skypeCo
[09:46] <kittensneedhome> i stopped a script?
[09:46] <kittensneedhome> ??
[09:46] <kittensneedhome> how to list channels?
[09:49] <tlarson> Kitar|st: huh?
[09:49] <tlarson> kittensneedhome: huh?
[09:49] <tlarson> (stupid auto-complete)
[09:59] <DjAngo23> Hey everyone. I just saw that the sendmail function was missing in my apache installation. I installed it via aptitude. But now every page i execute locally, with, or whitout mail function, is very very slow.
[10:00] <DjAngo23> Any idea what it could be ?
[10:02] <ohoj> Ahoi, ist es möglich, im Nautilus (Dateimanager) sich eine bitgenaue Dateigröße anzeigen zu lassen?
[10:02] <indus> ahoy german !de
[10:02] <indus> !de
[10:03] <ohoj> Is it possible to get shown the bitexact size of a file in Nautilus?
[10:04] <SwedeMike> ohoj: files can only be equal byte size length.
[10:05] <ohoj> ok, that's what I meant, sry.
[10:05] <ohoj> byteexact
[10:05] <rww> ohoj: right-click -> Properties -> look at size field
[10:05] <rww> mine says "7.5 MB (7821009 bytes)" (for example)
[10:06] <ohoj> rww: is exactly not what I was looking for ...
[10:06] <rww> ohoj: what exactly are you looking for, then?
[10:06] <ohoj> as I wrote ... ?!?
[10:06] <ohoj> "... In Nautilus ..."
[10:07] <ohoj> Nautilus -> List View
[10:07] <rww> yes, I'm in Nautilus. Those instructions are for Nautilus.
[10:08] <rww> you can't add it to list view, no
[10:08] <ohoj> I want to see byte-exact file sizes in the list view of filemanager Nautilus. Is that possible? (More exact i am not able to describe)
[10:08] <ohoj> rww: do you want to kidding me?
[10:09] <ohoj> I do not want see kB, MB or else.
[10:09] <rww> ohoj: no, I'm not. you can't add size in bytes to list view in Nautilus.
[10:10] <ohoj> rww: 'add ...' Haeh? Are u sure u understand me?
[10:10] <harovali> I have a jaunty system (which I cannot replace now with a newer ubuntu) , that is having problems downloading a correct g++_4%3a4.3.3-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[10:10] <rww> ohoj: yes
[10:10] <rww> ohoj: feel free to ask #ubuntu-de, they'll tell you the same thing.
[10:10] <slow-motion> hi
[10:11] <kaushal> hi
[10:11] <kaushal> is there a way to know the file size using lsof command ?
[10:11] <tomas_> hey guys i need some help i have this "No Indicators" where the shutdown icon should be what do i need for that
[10:11] <ohoj> Example: Name:afile.jpg   Rights: -rwxrwxrwx  Size: 1.038.234 [and NOT 1MB!!!]    ...
[10:11] <harovali> apt-get throws : dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute old pre-removal script: Exec format error
[10:11] <rww> ohoj: again, this is not something you can do in Nautilus' list view.
[10:12] <nmvictor> i have a large file whose content takes the form CODE 110: <DESCRIPTION OF CODE>, in each line.Is their a way I could delete the whitespace character between CODE and 110 using a command or a script?
[10:12] <ohoj> But why?
[10:12] <Garp> Hi.
[10:12] <rww> ohoj: because nobody programmed it as an option
[10:12] <tomas_> hey guys i need some help i have this "No Indicators" where the shutdown icon should be what do i need for that
[10:12] <rww> ubottu: repeat | tomas_
[10:12] <ohoj> that sad ...
[10:12] <tomas_> where do i get ubottu from
[10:13] <Garp> Question: My laptop now makes some fancy noise when I open/close the lid; where can I change that? Thanks. Version: DISTRIB_RELEASE=9.04 in x86_64 using KDE. Thanks.
[10:13] <nmvictor> i have a large file whose content takes the form CODE 110: <DESCRIPTION OF CODE>, in each line.Is their a way I could delete the whitespace character between CODE and 110 using a command or a script?
[10:13] <ohoj> rww: ok so far, thx anyway :)
[10:14] <rww> ubottu: repeat | nmvictor
[10:14] <tomas_> opps thats the robot
[10:15] <nmvictor> rww: thanks anyway guys, think i got an idea with java Gona give it a shot
[10:17] <Garp> nmvictor: sed -e 's/CODE \([0-9]*\)/CODE\1/' myfbigfile.txt
[10:17] <Garp> too late ;)
[10:18] <ohoj> @ChannelAdmin: Maybe it could be usefull to log this channel with http://colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_logs/ so it is possible to search former asked questions.
[10:18] <rww> !1984 | ohoj
[10:19] <ohoj> @ChannelAdmin: Would be nice if there were a link to those logs in channel headline.
[10:19] <kaushal> checking in again for my query ?
[10:20] <rww> ohoj: it's mentioned in #ubuntu's terms of service, which are linked from the channel entry message.
[10:21] <ohoj> rww: in a second level of reachability ... that means not existant
[10:22] <ohoj> .. in terms of usability
[10:22] <rww> ohoj: considering that "Use of this channel implies acceptance of terms at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService", users should read that page and be aware of it anyway.
[10:22] <rww> if they aren't, they likely aren't the type to read channel topics.
[10:22] <ohoj> proof it!
[10:23] <seidos> s/proof/prove
[10:23] <bazhang> ohoj, lets get back on topic please
[10:23] <ohoj> bye
[10:26] <bobthemilkman> apt-get is giving me a ton of 404 errors when I try to upgrade or install new packages. I think my particular mirror (ftp.riken.jp) is down or something similar, anyone else having this problem?
[10:27] <bobthemilkman> Also, the --fix-missing parameter for apt-get is a misleading parameter. It should be --ignore-missing. :(
[10:28] <airdem> i have problems installing wine-dev
[10:28] <airdem> wine-dev: Depends: wine1.2-dev but it is not going to be installed
[10:28] <airdem> how can i fix this?
[10:30] <Finnix_> hi2all
[10:31] <MikeChelen> bobthemilkman: try a different mirror?
[10:31] <bobthemilkman> The mirror's online... but it's pointing to files that don't exist on the mirror. I just ran apt-get update (and again).
[10:31] <bobthemilkman> Let me try a different mirror...
[10:32] <bazhang> bobthemilkman, what about the Taiwan mirror
[10:32] <Finnix_> somebody known how to enable acpi after boot? my hardware boot only with acpi=off kernel cmdline parameter, but acpi is required to get sound works fine (current sound is croak)
[10:32] <bobthemilkman> Eh. I'll just use the ftp.jaist.ac.jp mirror. :(
[10:33] <bobthemilkman> But I only get 1.5MB/s off that one :(
[10:34] <bobthemilkman> But I don't understand why apt-get update, apt-get upgrade would give me 404 errors.
[10:34] <Afief> My laptop needs the proprietary wl-broadcom to connect to the internet, is there a way I can download it in windows and install it manually in Linux?
[10:34] <rww> bobthemilkman: because the mirror didn't update fully or is having issues?
[10:35] <Finnix_> i try to use ubuntu 10.04 i386 with pulseaudio
[10:35] <bobthemilkman> I guess it's just a temporary error with the mirror... I'll just use this other one for a few days, I guess.
[10:35] <Snadder> When I stop mysql with the init script I get: "ERROR 1053 (08S01) at line 1: Server shutdown in progress" and lots of: "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)"
[10:35] <Snadder> Anyone know why I get all theese errors?
[10:36] <rww> Afief: Which version of Ubuntu (10.04, 9.10, etc.) and architecture (32-bit or 64-bit) are you using?
[10:36] <Snadder> I'm using ubuntu 9.10
[10:36] <Afief> rww, Kubuntu 9.10, x86(32 bit)
[10:36] <bobthemilkman> Hmmm. It might be worthwhile to convince my university to host a mirror.
[10:37] <bobthemilkman> Then I could get even faster downloads...
[10:37] <abhijain> i installed tomcat and jre  on lucid now i want run my jsp files . where should to paste my jsp files ?
[10:37] <rww> Afief: Download the package from one of the mirror links on http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/i386/bcmwl-kernel-source/download , copy it over to Ubuntu, double-click it in file manager to install it.
[10:39] <Afief> rww, thanks a million:D one more question though, I read that the 2.6.32 kernel's b43 driver finally has support for my wireless card, is there anything I should check out about why ubuntu can't use it by default?
[10:39] <rww> Afief: Which Broadcom chipset are you using (e.g. BCM4312)?
[10:39] <Afief> BCM4312 IIRC (dunno how to check in windows)
[10:40] <Finnix_> somebody expirienced to enable acpi after boot  (even acpi=off parameter passed to the kernel)?
[10:40] <rww> Afief: BCM4312 isn't supported by 2.6.32 due to a bug. It is in 2.6.33 and higher, though you need b43-fwcutter and the firmware it downloads then.
[10:40] <^Jay2^> rww:  will that bcmwl set the wireless as wlanX or ethX ?
[10:41] <rww> ^Jay2^: the wl driver uses ethX, b43 uses wlanX
[10:41] <Afief> rww, oh :( so another 6 months of proprietary drivers
[10:41] <rww> Afief: if that package installation fails saying you need additional packages, you can get links to them from http://bit.ly/9LBkoe , btw.
[10:41] <^Jay2^> rww: would it be possible for conky to display the essid from ethX?
[10:41] <rww> ^Jay2^: no idea, I don't use it
[10:41] <Mylisto> Anyone familiar with smartmontools?
[10:41] <rww> conky, that is
[10:42] <Mylisto> conky, you a TPB fan?
[10:42] <^Jay2^> rww: i see. i love conky but i still had to make it work lol
[10:42] <rww> Afief: indeed. Even with the free drivers, that firmware I mentioned is proprietary, so...
[10:42] <rww> Afief: and b43's performance isn't as good as wl's for me.
[10:42] <^Jay2^> rww: have you used compat-wireless?
[10:42] <Afief> rww, still proprietary firmware is better than a proprietary driver I guess
[10:43] <rww> ^Jay2^: no. I run crack kernel builds though.
[10:43] <zGryllida> what is this thing called, when I can select a block of text, then middle click to 'paste' it somewhere else?
[10:43] <rww> hence me knowing how b43 performs ;)
[10:43] <^Jay2^> rww: what do you mean crack kernel builds?
[10:44] <rww> zGryllida: http://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html covers the various terminology
[10:44] <Afief> zGryllida, Unix style copy-paste :P
[10:44] <rww> ^Jay2^: the only supported kernel version for e.g. Lucid is 2.6.32. I run higher kernel versions anyway, using testing packages provided by Ubuntu's kernel team.
[10:45] <rww> (which are unsupported here)
[10:45] <^Jay2^> i see
[10:45] <Afief> rww, how unstable are those testing packages?
[10:45] <^Jay2^> because somebody told me that if i run a high-er kernel version, i can make my tplink wn722n wireless usb to work
[10:45] <Mylisto> Anyone familiar with smartmontools?
[10:46] <rww> Afief: they work fine for me, but I wouldn't recommend them to end users
[10:46] <Afief> rww, you wouldn't happen to know how the open source ati drivers are faring?
[10:46] <rww> ^Jay2^: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ . If it breaks, you get to keep both halves and #ubuntu won't offer support for it.
[10:47] <rww> Afief: no idea, I switched to an Intel machine a few months ago. sorry :(
[10:47] <Afief> rww, thanks for your help:D the packages just downloaded I'll try to install them now
[10:47] <abhijain> how can i paste my jsp files in usr/shr/tomcat6/webapps
[10:48] <rww> Mylisto: you'd probably get a better response if you asked an actual question
[10:48] <^Jay2^> rww: i dont know what to do with that webite. lol sorry i am a complete noob in linux
[10:48] <MatBoy> guys, how do I move hidden folder using mv ?
[10:48] <rww> ^Jay2^: then I really wouldn't recommend using it
[10:49] <^Jay2^> rww: :P
[10:49] <MatBoy> hidden folders
[10:49] <MatBoy> not just one
[10:49] <Mylisto> well rww: I've been having weird issues...so I decided to try to test the hd..and found out about smartmontools, and installed gsmartcontrol...
[10:49] <Mylisto> http://pastebin.com/1AhRp7xr
[10:49] <rww> MatBoy: assuming that by "hidden folders" you mean folders beginning with a period that are thus hidden by ls and whatever, you'd do it the same way you move any folder :\
[10:49] <Mylisto> thats the output I got
[10:50] <Mylisto> Also, I think its due to my fan...
[10:50] <Mylisto> as my fan apparently has stopped workinb
[10:50] <Mylisto> working
[10:50] <azlon> how can i open port 80? i have apache installed but when i do nmap -p80 <myip> it says port 80 is closed
[10:50] <MatBoy> rww: ls -lna shows me all file, also the .folder ones
[10:50] <willwork4foo> I have to ask a fairly daft question - I'm using UNE lucid and I've managed to somehow detach my little white envelope icon in the notification area from Evolution. Whereas previously I'd click it and it'd give me the choice of mail or chat, now it just does chat. Also, it used to light up green when I had an email as well as a new chat, now it only reports new IM. Any idea how to re-configure this envelope icon to link into evolution again?
[10:50] <Finnix_> it is possible to enable acpi after boot even if acpi=off parameter passed to kernel cmdline?
[10:51] <^Jay2^> rww: is it possible in ubuntu to load the external's drive icon whenever it is plugged in?
[10:51] <rww> willwork4foo: is the evolution-indicator package installed?
[10:51] <MatBoy> rww: mv -lna or whatever does not work
[10:51] <willwork4foo> rww: lemme look
[10:51] <rww> MatBoy: mv .hiddenfolder destination
[10:51] <MatBoy> rww: yes, but I need all... so do a mv .* ?
[10:52] <willwork4foo> rww: nope. Installing that now
[10:52] <willwork4foo> rww: ah, that fixed it! Thanks!!!!!!
[10:52] <MatBoy> rww: yes did the trick :)
[10:53] <MatBoy> was not sure atm :)
[10:54] <rocket16> Hello all,
[10:54] <rww> ^Jay2^: no idea, sorry
[10:55] <rocket16> Has the Sound applet of Ubuntu been changed? After an upgrade, I see that the appearance is different.
[10:55] <rww> rocket16: yes
[10:55] <rocket16> rww: I see, thanks. Has it been improved in anyway?
[10:56] <rww> rocket16: It's now integrated into the indicator system. Whether this is an improvement depends on your opinion on indicators :\
[10:56] <rocket16> rww: Tanks, :)
[10:56] <zGryllida> Afief, rww, yay for ubuntu's unix-style copy paste, and thank you for your reply
[10:56] <rocket16> * thanks
[10:58] <nikolam> do you use some indexing service on Ubuntu and how are you content with it?
[10:58] <nikolam> beagle or tracker ?
[10:59] <nikolam> what gui do you use with tracker, per example?
[10:59] <project2501b> the command prompt
[11:01] <zGryllida> Afief, rww, is ubuntu having 'x11'?
[11:01] <rww> zGryllida: Ubuntu uses the X.org implementation of X11, yes
[11:01] <zGryllida> rww: can you link me to something about it please
[11:02] <rww> zGryllida: umm, http://www.x.org/wiki/ ? Depends what you want to know about it...
[11:03] <zGryllida> ok
[11:03] <tomas_> hey guys is there a way to install the System indictors
[11:03] <zGryllida> ?
[11:03] <zGryllida> tomas_: define "System indicators".
[11:04] <tomas_> system indicators the buttons on the end of the top bar that houses the shutdown and restart buttons
[11:07] <tomas_> any omne
[11:09] <rww> tomas_: did you used to have them, remove them, and need help re-adding them; or do you need their package names to install them?
[11:09] <tomas_> i need to install them rww
[11:10] <rww> tomas_: which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[11:10] <tomas_> 10.4
[11:11] <rww> tomas_:  indicator-applet-session for the shutdown/status/userswitch one, and indicator-messages for the Me Menu
[11:12] <tomas_> i get them from apt-get install indicator-applet-session
[11:13] <rww> tomas_: yes. If that doesn't make them appear, right-click an empty area of the panel, click Add to Panel, find them in there. (I don't have them installed, and can't remember what they're named in there.)
[11:13] <tomas_> ok i have that installed but it shows up with "No Indicators" in the corner where they should be
[11:13] <rww> tomas_: have you logged out and back in since you installed them?
[11:14] <tomas_> and reset
[11:15] <rww> tomas_: odd. I'm not sure what to try next, sorry :(
[11:15] <tomas_> dam lol
[11:16] <tomas_> ok found out which one it is
[11:16] <tomas_> Indicator Applet Session
[11:27] <smallfoot-> help, guest account dont work
[11:27] <smallfoot-> when i try to enter guest account, instead it does "lock screen"
[11:28] <zGryllida> smallfoot-: type 'guest', hit 'login'
[11:28] <smallfoot-> ok
[11:28] <smallfoot-> doesnt work
[11:29] <zGryllida> urgh
[11:29] <zGryllida> hmm.
[11:30] <zGryllida> reinstall, or wait for another user here
[11:30] <zGryllida> ...to respond.
[11:30] <shiro_> :D
[11:31] <mum-n-dad> Hello
[11:31] <mum-n-dad> Anybody know how to make a .tgz of this .deb? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/ttf-indic-fonts/ttf-tamil-fonts_0.5.10ubuntu1_all.deb
[11:32] <indus> !hi
[11:35] <jpds> mum-n-dad: Use the one already available at http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/ttf-indic-fonts/ttf-indic-fonts_0.5.10ubuntu1.tar.gz ?
[11:35] <iceroot> mum-n-dad: we dont need crossposting in #ubuntu and #debian
[11:39] <mum-n-dad> thanks jpds
[11:40] <lakitu> how to un7zip 7z.00x files?
[11:40] <lakitu> in 9.10
[11:40] <smallfoot-> 7z --help
[11:40] <smallfoot-> man 7z
[11:41] <shiro_> p7zip
[11:41] <lakitu> thanks
[11:41] <MaT-dg> is there a tool to strip de videostream from the flashplayer so you can play it in a local player? I'm sick of the stutter...
[11:44] <iflema> MaT-dg firefox addons, search for mp4 or cache them and fetch from /home/ian/.mozilla/firefox/xxxxxx.default/Cache
[11:45] <iflema> MaT-dg replace the ian and the xxxxxxx :)
[11:46] <shiro_> Isn't flash content downloaded in /tmp ? tempnam is used to create it if I remember well
[11:47] <shiro_> The prefix is Flash
[11:48] <brontoeee> flash is usually separated from the movie file
[11:49] <brontoeee> and acts as a player/decoder only
[11:49] <no-name-> what file system should i make this pen drive that i'm going to put ubuntu 10.04 64 live "cd" on?
[11:49] <shiro_> In this case, the link to the Mp4 is somewhere in the source
[11:49] <brontoeee> yes, only depends on how 'protected' the thing is
[11:50] <brontoeee> this will fail if there is real streaming going on thought
[11:50] <brontoeee> the cache method i mean
[11:50] <iflema> no-name no need to worry... just start the process
[11:50] <Garp> Question: My laptop now makes some fancy noise when I open/close the lid; where can I change that? Thanks. Version: DISTRIB_RELEASE=9.04 in x86_64 using KDE. Thanks.
[11:51] <brontoeee> no-name-, there is a tool for this process
[11:51] <no-name-> brontoeee: yeah i know. i use unetbootin
[11:51] <no-name-> does that just format it for uou?
[11:51] <brontoeee> it should format as well
[11:52] <no-name-> ok
[11:55] <Ruge> Hey folks, anyone know where I can grab ATI drivers for my fresh Ubuntu install? I used to have an nvidia one and there was a command, not sure about the ATi
[11:58] <wildbat> how do i umount my memory card w/o rebooting? i pulled the card out without umounting, now the system can't umount/remount it. tried with -f but it just hang>.<
[11:58] <hateball> Ruge: You should be able to find it in System -> Administration -> Hardware drivers
[11:58] <MaT-dg> iflema: shiro_: brontoeee: yes, it's for protected content (BBC iplayer etc), can't find cached video
[11:59] <iflema> MaT-dg FireFox you use?
[11:59] <MaT-dg> iflema: yes
[12:00] <Ruge> Hmm just did that and it failed :o
[12:00] <iflema> MaT-dg ya gotta letem play first, choppy or not......   ~/<username>/.mozilla/firefox/xxxxxx.default/Cache
[12:00] <shiro_> wildbat: if  $>mount  shows your memory card being mounted, umount it.
[12:01] <Ruge> hateball: SystemError: installArchives() failed
[12:01] <iflema> MaT-dg plugin is the easiest way otherwise manually sorting by size and/or file type
[12:01] <hateball> Ruge: and you're connected to the internet, and have fully updated ?
[12:02] <wildbat> shiro_, like i said ~ umount  just freeze
[12:03] <shiro_> wildbat: you don't try to umount the memory card while it's not plugged in, do you ?
[12:03] <wildbat> shiro_, yes ~
[12:04] <shiro_> if it's freezing while your memory card is plugged in, blame your OS (that is, linux) and reboot :).
[12:04] <wildbat> >.<
[12:04] <Ruge> hateball: Actually im downloading 10.04 as we speak and I'll install that and give it a go
[12:05] <wildbat> shiro_, no other option?
[12:05] <henux> Hi. Ubuntu 10.04 seems not to have /boot/grub/menu.lst file at all. What is the way to add my own kernel to the GRUB boot menu in this system?
[12:05] <brontoeee> whats the file where i can setup ip to domain redirection?
[12:05] <guntbert> !grub2 | henux
[12:05] <wildbat> !grub2 | henux
[12:05] <brontoeee> like 127.0.0.1 > myserver
[12:05] <henux> Great okay
[12:05] <guntbert> brontoeee: /etc/hosts
[12:05] <shiro_> wildbat: I don't have a linux box to test, but there's maybe a "service" under /etc/rc.d/ or something like that, that you could restart.
[12:05] <brontoeee> guntbert, thanks
[12:07] <shiro_> wildbat: or try using a tool like fstat and grep your device/mount point from its output
[12:08] <shiro_> wildbat: I think linux equivalent to fstat is lsof
[12:08] <shiro_> wildbat: I mean GNU/linux
[12:09] <brontoeee> how do i get nautilus to make thunbs for mp4 videos?
[12:10] <brontoeee> thumbs
[12:15] <Tobias92> When I log in, I get a window saying that I can not log out (?) because gnome-power-manager is not responding. How can I work around this?
[12:16] <Jork>  Hello guys. I was trying to install latest intel graphic drivers on lucid, but gives me an following error; http://pastebin.ca/1891724. How can I fix this?
[12:16] <red2kic> Tobias92: "killall gnome-power-manager" ? Just a wild guess.
[12:17] <aprilhare> hi. i want to install 64 bit thunderbird 3.1 - how do I do this?
[12:17] <Tobias92> red2kic, it gives me the option to "logout anyway" so I can login anyway. It's just damn annoying that I have to click this everytime I log in. Also, it makes no sense :(
[12:18] <erUSUL> !ppa  | aprilhare use mozilla ppa ?
[12:19] <red2kic> Tobias92: Something went haywire. Meh. I can't really construct an answer around that issue.
[12:20] <Tobias92> red2kic, that's okay. I'll try to reinstall gnome-power-manager
[12:21] <aprilhare> erUSUL, i could compile from source... :)
[12:21] <aprilhare> cause it aint on no ppa i know of!
[12:21] <erUSUL> aprilhare: finding a deb. (even third party) is allways a prefered option.
[12:21] <erUSUL> !backports | aprilhare
[12:22] <erUSUL> aprilhare: first hit in the ppa search page https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/thunderbird-stable
[12:23] <bazz> if i make changes in /etc/fonts/conf.d how do i get fontconfig to update everything?
[12:23] <aprilhare> erUSUL, hope it has it :)
[12:23] <aprilhare> nope 3.0.5
[12:23] <aprilhare> latest 3.1
[12:24] <aprilhare> i know this because 3.1 is the one that can make you breakfast.. or something.
[12:25] <slow-motion> re
[12:26] <erUSUL> aprilhare: then i dunno; maybe you just have to wait a few days
[12:26] <red2kic> aprilhare: What is so special about 3.1? I'm curious. :P
[12:27] <aprilhare> red2kic, better quick search, better support for setting up e-mail boxes, makes you breakfast, ...
[12:27] <aprilhare> oh and it's based on latest web browser engine
[12:31] <Arttatus> Is AdobeAIR working on Ubuntu 64bit?
[12:31] <razorr> hi!!anyone to help me with my md5 hash?
[12:31] <zGryllida> yes?
[12:32] <zGryllida> !ask
[12:32] <razorr> anyone tha knows about md5 hashes?
[12:33] <razorr> i have my hash and i want to crack it
[12:33] <brontoeee> razorr, what about?
[12:33] <razorr> look
[12:33] <razorr> a girl died
[12:33] <aprilhare> Arttatus, i've used it - but it's not recommended. it makes flash unstable.
[12:34] <razorr> and she has her facebook profile
[12:34] <razorr> and i want to diactivate it
[12:34] <Arttatus> aprilhare: on 32bit also?
[12:34] <razorr> and i have the hash
[12:34] <razorr> if u can plz help me
[12:34] <aprilhare> Arttatus, on 64 bit i am
[12:34] <aprilhare> night
[12:34] <razorr> brontoeeee come private
[12:35] <Tobias92> red2kic, dpkg-reconfigure gnome-power-manager fixed it for me
[12:35] <clarnist> witam panie i panowie
[12:35] <red2kic> Tobias92: Ah I see. Thanks for the head up.
[12:35] <Arttatus> hej clarnist
[12:35] <clarnist> porzebuję pomocy
[12:36] <ranjan> Hi all which is the best squid log analyser??
[12:37] <iceroot> ranjan: you
[12:40] <ranjan> iceroot, what??
[12:40] <iceroot> ranjan: you are the best for analysing your logs, not a program
[12:41] <ranjan> iceroot, i mean the program which can generate neat html reports
[12:41] <iceroot> ranjan: awstats i guess
[12:41] <ranjan> iceroot, thank you let me see :)
[12:49] <gb__> lo
[12:51] <eFfeM_work> hi, is it (easily) possible to install a 32  bit kernel adjacent to the 64 bit one I have now? I have an app that does not work for 64 bit :-(
[12:52] <laeg> i have intermittent sound in wine because of pulseaudio, is there a ubuntu supported/recommended fix?
[12:53] <laeg> !pulseaudio
[12:53] <laeg> very much "drop-in".
[12:55] <iceroot> eFfeM_work: what app is not working with amd64 but with i386?
[12:56] <willwork4foo> Hi - Does anyone know the name of the volume applet that sits in the notification area for Ubuntu Netbook Edition? I've somehow managed to uninstall or disable it, and I need to get it back!
[12:56]  * cast wonders if that's a general question
[12:56] <TenPhil> 'lo, when I try to open a folder from the places menu, it instead scans it for viruses with Clam... why?
[12:56] <eFfeM_work> iceroot: i have an issue creating a gcc cross compiler for nios2 under 10.04/64 bit, worked like a charm under 8.04/32 bit
[12:56] <iceroot> eFfeM_work: 10.04 != 8.04
[12:56] <Pici> !chroot | eFfeM_work
[12:57] <eFfeM_work> iceroot: I know, I migrated from 8.04/32bit to 10.04/64 bit and stumbled upon this
[12:57] <eFfeM_work> Pici: thanks
[12:57] <iceroot> eFfeM_work: with a new install you mean
[12:57] <cast> eFfeM_work: i think he's suggesting you can't isolate it to an arch problem
[12:57] <Pici> eFfeM_work: Unfortunately, I can't help much more than just providing the factoid.
[12:57] <eFfeM_work> iceroot: yeah tried to generate the cross compiler from scratch, same source
[12:58] <iceroot> eFfeM_work: so 10.04 32bit should work but you have not test it
[12:58] <willwork4foo> anyone got any idea what the volume applet is called - running the volume control in the notification area of Ubuntu Netbook Edition?
[12:58] <eFfeM_work> iceroot: that is what I was expecting,and that is why I was asking if I could install 32 bit aside 64 bit
[12:59] <iceroot> eFfeM_work: you can have a amd64 kernel with a 32bit userland, i dont know if you have have a i386 kernel with an amd64 userland
[13:00] <iceroot> eFfeM_work: i am using amd64 kernel with 32bit userland and its working fine
[13:00] <eFfeM_work> yeah, actually I still have my 8.04 in a different partition, but when installing 10.04 I opted for ext4 which seems a bad move since the 8.04 boot can't access ext4
[13:01] <zulgaban> hi
[13:02] <zGryllida> hi
[13:02] <zulgaban> my ubuntu box died 2 weeks ago
[13:02] <polomint> hi
[13:02] <polomint> ul
[13:02] <zulgaban> power supply unit blew up
[13:02] <DarkStar1> I officially am starting to have issues with the login system >:o
[13:02] <polomint> issues?
[13:03] <zulgaban> it's called security DarkStar1
[13:03] <^Jay2^> why is it that people from youtube using wine can play zuma's revenge, and our ubuntu can't?
[13:03] <willwork4foo> anyone got any tips on the volume control icon in the notification area? My notification area is present, but the volume control is gone...!
[13:03] <DarkStar1> I can't enter my password through the pidgin gui I have touse the "/msg" metheod
[13:03] <polomint> o
[13:03] <TenPhil> willwork4foo: I think it's gvfs that does the volume monitoring... might have a tray applet.
[13:04] <DarkStar1> zulgaban: I'm get the security and support it, but in the name of simplicity...
[13:04] <willwork4foo> gvfs is a userspace virtual filesystem.....!!!
[13:04] <willwork4foo> TenPhil: are you sure about that?
[13:04] <zulgaban> DarkStar1: nobody is perfect XD
[13:04] <TenPhil> willwork4foo: indicator-sound-service is the process running on mine
[13:04] <willwork4foo> TenPhil: thanks
[13:05] <Pici> DarkStar1: Many people feel that Pidgin is a poor IRC client.  We will remove the need to login to use this channel when the spam attacks subside, sorry for the inconvenience.
[13:05] <DarkStar1> willwork4foo: I have the same issues too but they're gone now sine my apple slim keyboard has buttons to control it :)
[13:05] <Tobias92> How can I disable wifi from the commandline without using sudo? I'm trying to create a makeshift wifi killswitch, for the fn+F1 key will not work
[13:05] <willwork4foo> DarkStar1: my netbook can control it with keys too, I'd just like to have the button
[13:05] <willwork4foo> right - I've installed the indicator. BRB - logging out / in
[13:06] <DarkStar1> Pici: I'm for the security and don't mind it. It's just the login method. I spent the last 5 mins wondering why my password wasn't accepted
[13:06] <tomas_> hey guys how do i get the ubuntu networking icon to show up
[13:06] <willwork4foo> AMAZING! That was it, thanks TenPhil
[13:06] <DarkStar1> tomas_: It should show up automatically, left of the date on the top bar
[13:07] <willwork4foo> Yet again, #ubuntu has the answer.
[13:07] <TenPhil> willwork4foo: no prob.
[13:07] <willwork4foo> ok - I am going to go grab some lunch
[13:07] <willwork4foo> cheers folks
[13:07] <tomas_> hey guys how do i get the ubuntu networking icon to show up
[13:07] <zGryllida> tomas_: hey, hmm.. let me look.
[13:08] <DarkStar1> tomas_: I'm looking into it now
[13:09] <iflema> tomas_ what happens when you, in a terminal type     nm-applet?
[13:10] <tom967> hello
[13:11] <zGryllida> Hi tom967!
[13:11] <bobthemilkman> I'm having trouble configuring my fonts to work the way I want them to. Specifically I'm having trouble with anti-aliasing on CJK fonts that are aliased to Sans.
[13:12] <zGryllida> bobthemilkman: system > preferences > appearance > fonts > details
[13:12] <abhi_nav> hello
[13:13] <aguitel> how to hide text during boot and shutdown process ?
[13:13] <bobthemilkman> zGryllida: My cjk fonts are still unaliased below a certain font size.
[13:13] <TenPhil> 'lo, when I try to open a folder from the places menu, it instead scans it for viruses with Clam... why?
[13:13] <bobthemilkman> Actually, they're unaliased between two font sizes.
[13:14] <zGryllida> aguitel: not recommended to do, because in case of a shutdown error, it should show the error message, which wouldn't be seen otherwise
[13:14] <nope> ubuntu is starting to bug me a lot (10.04 server)
[13:14] <zGryllida> !details | nope
[13:14] <nope> who figured that /var log cant be put in a separate partition?
[13:14] <bobthemilkman> nope: It can.
[13:15] <aguitel> zGryllida, a ok
[13:15] <nope> bobthemilkman: it wont boot when we have lvm log.vols for /var/log /var/run /var/cache etv
[13:15] <nope> it just hangs
[13:15] <tom967> I got a strange message on boot "udevd-work [332] open /dev/null failed no such file or directory" appearing a few seconds and then leaving, any thoughts?
[13:15] <nope> commented out all the /var/... entries in fstab, voila
[13:16] <polomint> heh, most of this goes whooshhhh over my head, but maybe, just maybe I'll remember this stuff when i have a problem,heeheheh
[13:16] <zGryllida> tom967, does it actually boot, or is this fatal error?
[13:16] <bobthemilkman> The only reasons for that to fail would be the kernel trying to write data to /var/* before it mounts them.
[13:16] <bobthemilkman> Which might happen if you wanted to be using FUSE for the /var partition (can't do this).
[13:16] <nope> bobthemilkman: seems to be an issue with ureadahead
[13:16] <RobC0_> polo: I'm trolling for golden nuggets of linux goodness as well...
[13:17] <polomint> hehe RobC0_
[13:17] <tom967> >zGryllida: it boots OK
[13:17] <genii> nope: lvm stuff is processed before fstab, hence your /var isn't being mounted in this case before it wants to start writing there
[13:17] <polomint> its handy to have this channel open, i might actually learn something, :)
[13:17] <tom967> zGryllida: it boots OK
[13:17] <tom967> zGryllida: but I loose a fex seconds on each boot
[13:17] <nope> genii: thanks, maybe I`ll do another reinstall and do /var/xxx as logical non-lvm volumes
[13:18] <polomint> although i do have a problem, monodevelop's gui editor is horrible, but thats not a ubuntu thing heheh
[13:19] <cast> vi!
[13:19] <polomint> is there a gui version of vim?
[13:19] <jpds> polomint: gvim.
[13:20] <guntbert> nope: the only f
[13:20] <polomint> ahh thx
[13:20] <guntbert> d
[13:20] <zGryllida> tom967: it says (from GRUB) 'unknown char [32] you may .. [rest doesn't fit the screen]' on every boot, which I just don't care about
[13:20] <zGryllida> tom967: you can try to wait for someone to help us though, I also lose several seconds on each boot as well
[13:20] <polomint> zGryllida, do what i do.... ignore all errors, ubuntu normally sorts it out for me, lmao
[13:21] <guntbert> nope: the only directory that I wouldn't put in a separate lvm volume seems /var/run
[13:21] <chetnick> I want to add few things to kernel and recompile it. How do I do that (Without losing existing default configuration)? Thanks.
[13:21] <Pici> !kernel | chetnick Take a look at these links
[13:22] <polomint> kernel? recompile?  oh oh, im gonna run and hide.. hehh
[13:22] <polomint> damn, i get scared compiling my own software lol
[13:22] <jsquared> If I've got sudo powers, is there a way to set passwords non-interactively?
[13:23] <chetnick> Pici: I was looking at those, but it does not mention there how to do it without using current config.
[13:23] <chetnick> Pici: I don't want to do ti from scratch, I just want to add support for few things.
[13:24] <chetnick> jsquared: yeah, you could write C program that does it.
[13:24] <abhi_nav> whatsup guys?
[13:24] <chetnick> abhi_nav: not much.
[13:24] <abhi_nav> chetnick, hmm
[13:24] <jsquared> chetnick: I could do that, I suppose, but there's no shell commands that'll do it?
[13:25] <chetnick> jsquared: not without interaction.
[13:25] <RobC0_> Is there anything I need to do special to set up two partitions, one to install XP and the other Ubuntu 10.  Should I opt for ext3 on a shared laptop?
[13:25] <mguy> Doesn't matter
[13:25] <jsquared> chetnick: That's for the best, I suppose.
[13:25] <chetnick> jsquared: your input needs to be sent through one way encryption process, and that hash is store in /etc/shadow file.
[13:26] <red2kic> !dualboot | RobC0_
[13:26] <Pici> chetnick: If you follow the steps under "Alternative Build Method", can't you look at your old config and new config and use some or all of the old fixes?  Excuse me if I'm way off on this, its been a long time since I compiled my own kernel.
[13:28] <chetnick> Pici: That's the thing, this is default Ubuntu install, I don't believe there is any config. Now I've tried to extract .config from kernel image, but default Ubuntu kernel does not have support for that in kernel (CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC and CONFIG_IKCONFIG)
[13:29] <Pici> chetnick: Perhaps #ubuntu-kernel would be the best place to ask
[13:30] <chetnick> Pici: Ok thanks.
[13:33] <bobthemilkman> I've found the error. The problem is file /etc/conf.d/66-wqy-zenhei-sharp.conf.   This file makes cjk fonts look like complete and total crap. Where do I file a bug? I'm not sure what package to file this under.
[13:34]  * DarkStar1 sighs
[13:34]  * polomint farts
[13:34] <Pici> polomint: Please don't.
[13:35] <polomint> hehe
[13:35] <Pici> bobthemilkman: Looks like that file is in the the ttf-wqy-zenhei package, file a bug against that.
[13:35] <polomint> sry, couldnt help it... :p
[13:35] <Pici> polomint: If you feel the need to be random, you can join #ubuntu-offtopic to chat.  (Please keep in mind our channel guidelines there as well though).
[13:35] <DarkStar1> seriously.. I accidentally tripped the cable and pidgin tries to log me in with an unregistered nick
[13:35] <polomint> sry pici
[13:36] <syst3m0veride> heya guys, I upgraded my sound service and it lost my settings
[13:36] <syst3m0veride> cannot even find my sound card anymore?
[13:37] <tomas_> just a question is there a version of ubuntu that will let me install just the OS and no software
[13:38] <Pici> tomas_: The Ubuntu Minimal CD install the bare minimums, letting you decide what extra packages you want to install.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[13:38] <rkhshm> where does /etc/passwd come from?
[13:38] <rkhshm> dpkg -S does not show anything?
[13:41] <Pici> rkhshm: I would have to guess that it either comes from 'passwd' or 'login', both binary packages created from the 'shadow' source package.
[13:42] <bugs_bugger> can anyone tell me why i cant mount my cf on lucid?
[13:42] <rkhshm> Pici: but they dont show up in dpkg -S why?
[13:42] <indus> bugs_bugger, whats a cf
[13:42] <Wikitanvir> can anyone give me a direct link to download the .deb file of vlc media player?
[13:43] <Pici> rkhshm: Because they are probably created either at install time, or by using the tools for the first time... or even by other packages when installing things.  The files themselves are not part of any binary package.
[13:43] <bugs_bugger> indus: compact flash card
[13:43] <Wikitanvir> i need to use ubuntu offline
[13:43] <toyotafosgate> hey everyone I am having some issues with Ubuntu Server 10.04 Installation am I in the right place or should I be joing a different chat channel?
[13:43] <Pici> Wikitanvir: See http://apt.alturl.com/
[13:44] <indus> Wikitanvir, its there on vlc site
[13:44] <rkhshm> Pici: any ideas?
[13:44] <compsman> Wifi Issues
[13:44] <Wikitanvir> indus: really? can u give me a direct download link?
[13:44] <indus> Wikitanvir, ah no its a repository
[13:44] <Pici> rkhshm: Any more ideas you mean? I responded above
[13:45] <rkhshm> Pici: yes any more ideas
[13:45] <Wikitanvir> indus: oh ..
[13:45] <indus> Wikitanvir, try getdeb.net
[13:45] <rkhshm> Pici: coz passwd doesnt show it if i do dpkg -L passwd
[13:45] <indus> but what pici gave is a better idea
[13:45] <amokpaule> Hello, i have 2 computers both ubuntu lucid. Im here on my main computer and i try to coneckt the my second comp using the Remote Desktop viewer. It coneckts and i can see the second computers screen here here. But i cannot see here what i do, means i can watch my others comp screen and drag windows around stuff just on my main comp i only see the window like i logged in.
[13:45] <Wikitanvir> indus: okay. thanks :)
[13:45] <compsman> i cant connect to any wifi with out manually entering in the access point help!
[13:45] <indus> Pici, it useful for offline installs
[13:45] <indus> Wikitanvir, its useful for offline installs
[13:46] <indus> Pici, sorry wrong nick
[13:46] <rkhshm> Pici: sorry missed that one out.
[13:46] <indus> Wikitanvir, http://www.getdeb.net/software/VLC
[13:46] <chid> how would I troubleshoot touchpad issues
[13:46] <chid> ubuntu 9.04
[13:46] <toyotafosgate> Any ideas why I might have a installation fail of Ubuntu Server 10.04 while trying to setup a simple raid 1 setup?
[13:47] <vices> i'm seeing some imapd activity on my webserver and i'm not familiar with how it should look and what the reasons are
[13:47] <compsman> (also wifi radar wont auto pick up ip.
[13:47] <toyotafosgate> Basically getting the following errors went it boots up:
[13:47] <DarkStar1> toyotafosgate: Failed in what way?
[13:47] <vices> there are only 2 or 3 email addresses on the server and they aren't used frequently
[13:47] <bugs_bugger> indus: i have an integrated card reader(4slots). plugging in my cf sd card, i can just see the (empty) slots for the other three card types, but the cf wont appear
[13:47] <toyotafosgate> fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2 /dev/md1p2:
[13:48] <toyotafosgate> The filesystem size (according to the superblock) is 11916690 blocks
[13:48] <vices> is it normal to have 3 of these running?: /usr/lib/courier-imap/bin/imapd
[13:48] <toyotafosgate> The physical size of the device is 116237296 blocks Either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt!
[13:48] <DarkStar1> toyotafosgate: use pastebin to post the error message
[13:48] <indus> bugs_bugger, try a command dmesg | tail
[13:48] <DarkStar1> toyotafosgate: www.pastebin.org
[13:48] <rkhshm> Pici: there is any documentation on this.
[13:48] <corpsicle> Hi
[13:49] <rkhshm> Pici: would like to know more
[13:49] <corpsicle> just installed ubuntu with kde desktop, and im not getting any sound
[13:49] <corpsicle> any obvious things i should try ?
[13:49] <compsman> i cant connect to any wifi with out manually entering in the access point help! (also wifi radar can find wifis but wont connect)
[13:49] <zGryllida> corpsicle: google "<speakers model> driver ubuntu"
[13:49] <Wikitanvir> indus: in find the link to download in getdeb..
[13:49] <zGryllida> corpsicle: or paste your specs here for the channel to google it for you
[13:50] <corpsicle> its the driver for the soundcard i think actually
[13:50] <corpsicle> ive had ubuntu running with sound on this laptop before
[13:50] <Wikitanvir> indus: it has a button download, but after click it gives me a alert
[13:50] <corpsicle> but just reinstalled today
[13:50] <indus> Wikitanvir, yeah use apturl
[13:50] <toyotafosgate> DarkStar1: http://pastebin.com/kSBkERNB
[13:50] <DarkStar1> corpsicle: go into System > Preferences > Sound and have a play around
[13:50] <indus> Wikitanvir, from taht window wihch piops up
[13:51] <Wikitanvir> indus: i got it in apturl..
[13:51] <bugs_bugger> indus: output here: http://pastebin.com/3HReLe6A
[13:51] <zGryllida> corpsicle: what ubuntu version did it work on, have you installed SAME version this time?
[13:51] <indus> bugs_bugger, problem with reading the medium it seems
[13:51] <tydeas> Any link on how to install ATI x1050 Radeon drivers?
[13:52] <Wikitanvir> indus: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/v/vlc/vlc_1.0.6-1ubuntu1_i386.deb this link looks okay?
[13:52] <bugs_bugger> indus: ok. so what am i gonna do to fix that?
[13:52] <DarkStar1> toyotafosgate: Is this a repetitive problem?? (as in have you tried a re-install?)
[13:52] <indus> Wikitanvir, no dont do that, that will not install other dependencies needed
[13:52] <corpsicle> zGryllida: yep, same
[13:52] <indus> Wikitanvir, like pici said, use aptoncd or somethinh
[13:52] <Wikitanvir> indus: then?
[13:52] <corpsicle> "audio plaback devide does not work"
[13:53] <corpsicle> very helpful =/
[13:53] <toyotafosgate> DarkStar1: yes, I have actually tried differents setups with raid but they all seem to fail. I can install on one drive but raid seems to keep failing
[13:53] <corpsicle> its what kde notifier tells me
[13:53] <compsman> i cant connect to any wifi with out manually entering in the access point help! (also wifi radar can find wifis but wont connect) sorr for posting again i jiust like some help
[13:53] <Wikitanvir> indus: i am afraid what pici said? and what is aptoncd?
[13:53] <corpsicle> installed something, ill try restarting
[13:54] <toyotafosgate> DarkStar1: It seems almost like the raid setup is not completely being erased and causing it to not boot correctly, either that or something is being messed up in Grub
[13:54] <DarkStar1> toyotafosgate: The problem is probably down to your raid card. Had this problem a while back when Sata first came out and my friend and I were using a custom RAID card
[13:54] <Cyber_Akuma> Is there any way to make ubuntu install Grub on the logical partition instead of the MBR for purposes of chainloading it?
[13:54] <Cyber_Akuma> during ubuntu install I mean
[13:55] <toyotafosgate> DarkStar1: see that's the thing the server I am using is an older HP DL140 and it only has IDE, I am trying to use the built in installer with mdadm to setup software raid
[13:55] <MrEgg964> Hi all. Using Samba on a Ubuntu server, is it possible to configure so as to allow windows clients to upload files to a specific folder, while at the same time not allowing them to download anything? tia
[13:56] <compsman> anyone? help me? or this no help?
[13:56] <DarkStar1> toyotafosgate: Aahh you're complicating your problem... my experience with software RAID on Linux is that the grey hair strands aren't worth the effort
[13:56] <hebz0rl> hello i wanted to try out btrfs on maverick (im using the mini iso for installation) how can i set the mount option to enable transparent compression when creating the partition? (i want to mount it to /)
[13:57] <DarkStar1> MrEgg964: It's totally possible...
[13:57] <Wikitanvir> indus: are you getting annoyed?
[13:57] <MrEgg964> DarkStar1: excellent - what directive am i looking for?
[13:57] <toyotafosgate> DarkStar1: It's odd because I used the same setup on another server with the exact same hardware and it worked correctly. I am not sure what could be the problem...
[13:58] <indus> Wikitanvir, lol
[13:58] <DarkStar1> toyotafosgate: Hang on I'm trying to picture where your setup is going wrong
[13:58] <indus> Wikitanvir, no
[13:58] <indus> !APTONCD
[13:58] <FloodBot2> indus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:58] <toyotafosgate> DarkStar1: ok thanks
[13:58] <indus> Wikitanvir, see aboive link
[13:58] <bugs_bugger> indus: dont wanna press you but any idea
[13:58] <indus> bugs_bugger, does the media work in windows ?
[13:59] <indus> bugs_bugger, there is a small tab on the cf which makes it write protected, move it !!!!!!!
[13:59] <bugs_bugger> indus: snap! didn try that yet.
[13:59] <bugs_bugger> stupid me :S
[13:59] <toyotafosgate> DarkStar1: Some more info, it seems like it is trying to load that /dev/md1p2 but I am only creating to raid devices, MD0 and MD1... Why does this even exist?
[13:59] <compsman> i cant connect to any wifi with out manually entering in the access point help! (also wifi radar can find wifis but wont connect) sorr for posting again i jiust like some help    last attempt
[13:59] <toyotafosgate> DarkStar1: correction "two" raid devices
[14:00] <DarkStar1> toyotafosgate: Is there a partitionon one of your hard drives?
[14:00] <bugs_bugger> indus: doesnt seem to have a lock-tab
[14:00] <indus> bugs_bugger, it does generally, check
[14:00] <indus> bugs_bugger, or google it , i dont have one right now
[14:00] <Wikitanvir> indus: above link? what link r u talking about?
[14:01] <toyotafosgate> DarkStar1: Before installing I removed all partitions and raid devices from within the installer. Is that what you mean?
[14:01] <indus> !aptoncd > Wikitanvir
[14:01] <bugs_bugger> indus: there aint no
[14:01] <indus> bugs_bugger, can you tell me which card this is
[14:01] <indus> bugs_bugger, what data you have on it
[14:01] <compsman> ok i am just wasting tiime here then..
[14:02] <indus> compsman, what is the issue
[14:02] <compsman> wifi issues
[14:02] <indus> !PATIENCE
[14:02] <indus> rude factoid :D
[14:02] <amokpaule> How can i add an programm to "Applications"?
[14:02] <xmagixx> quistion what is the most optimal rsize wsize for mounting a NFS on LAN ?
[14:03] <indus> compsman, can you tell in here exactly how and which network you try to connect to
[14:03] <bastid_raZor> amokpaule: right click applications.. edit menu
[14:03] <bugs_bugger> indus: photos of a reflex
[14:04] <Gnea> compsman: by not explaining what the problem is, in detail, yes, you are wasting your time
[14:04] <indus> bugs_bugger, aN SLR you mean
[14:04] <indus> bugs_bugger, check in windows ifit works then we try again
[14:04] <amokpaule> bastid_raZor,  ty
[14:04] <airdem> i have a single os system so grub is no displayed at boot
[14:04] <indus> bugs_bugger, go !
[14:04] <airdem> is there a command to display it?
[14:04] <airdem> i need to bopot rescue mode
[14:04] <Gnea> compsman: but you might want to try wicd
[14:04] <compsman> indus, i con connect with wifi only if i enter in the info... the app wifi radar wont connect it just freezes on dhcp (ip grabber)
[14:05] <bastid_raZor> amokpaule: you're welcome
[14:05] <Tobias92> Is there any way I can use the Fn key as a modifier in gconf?
[14:05] <compsman> can*
[14:05] <Gnea> compsman: wifi-radar sucks, use wicd
[14:05] <toyotafosgate> DarkStar1: do you need any more information from me?
[14:05] <multi_io> what's the best way in Ubuntu to get a valid /lib/modules/<kernelversion>/build/.config for the running kernel so I can compile 3rd-party kernel modules?
[14:06] <Gnea> !info wicd
[14:06] <compsman> Gnea, sudo ap-get install wicd ?
[14:06] <compsman> apt*
[14:06] <indus> airdem, yes
[14:06] <Gnea> yes
[14:06] <DarkStar1> Think I've found the answer to you problems :)
[14:06] <multi_io> is there a package that contains that file? Or do you have to compile a kernel yourself for that?
[14:06] <airdem> indus, but you dont know it? :)
[14:06] <bugs_bugger> indus: allright allright! thanks so far. hopefully my pics didn get lost...
[14:06] <indus> airdem,  :D
[14:06] <Gnea> compsman: then run it like this:  wicd-client -n
[14:06] <indus> airdem, press alt esc
[14:07] <bugs_bugger> indus: rebooting on windows, should be back in 10
[14:07] <indus> airdem, but if you want to see a menu permanently you have to edit /etc/default/grub
[14:08] <airdem> ok alt+esc
[14:08] <DarkStar1> toyotafosgate: You see the private chat window messages?
[14:08] <airdem> i will try now, thank you
[14:08] <compsman> Gnea, I WILL BRB disconnecting eth
[14:08] <indus> airdem, wait 1 sec
[14:08] <indus> oh crap
[14:08] <indus> its shift button now
[14:08] <Gnea> !pm
[14:09] <z0net> how can I compile an amount of cpp files? :o
[14:10] <jpds> z0net: g++ file1.cpp file2.cpp ....
[14:10] <z0net> jpds, I'll try thnx
[14:11] <indus> airdem, oops
[14:11] <indus> sorry airdem its shift key :D
[14:11] <airdem> shift+esc?
[14:11] <indus> airdem, just shift
[14:11] <airdem> okay :)
[14:11] <airdem> bye
[14:11] <indus> airdem, and if you want
[14:11] <indus> airdem, permanently grub menu
[14:11] <airdem> yeah i know
[14:11] <airdem> but i just need it once
[14:11] <indus> airdem, ah ok
[14:11] <airdem> :) thanks again
[14:12] <indus> heh ok
[14:12] <z0net> jpds, I tried: "g++ *.cpp" and then a lot of errors =\
[14:14] <PatrickBic> hi
[14:14] <compsman> Gnea, still can obtain ip address
[14:14] <compsman> cant*
[14:14] <z0net> jpds, look the folder: http://images.cjb.net/70fa4.png
[14:14] <PatrickBic> i wonder if i might better ask in some x11 related channel but I'll try
[14:14] <PatrickBic> nvidia driver ->  graphical artefacts (textmode) + lockup;... nv-driver -> graphical artefacts + 1-5s graphical mode then lockup.... vesa-driver -> graphical artefacts + working graphics mode
[14:15] <z0net> how can I compile all these files: http://images.cjb.net/70fa4.png ?
[14:15] <PatrickBic> z0net, g++
[14:15] <airdem> okay my problem is a bit more than that
[14:15] <airdem> i have made backups of my home and root partition
[14:15] <z0net> PatrickBic, I tried g++ *.cpp
[14:15] <z0net> and then I got a lot of errors
[14:15] <airdem> repartitioned my hdd and copied the backups to the new partitions
[14:15] <PatrickBic> z0net, fix them
[14:15] <compsman> Gnea, is it possible due to my broadcom wifi card?
[14:15] <PatrickBic> there is no other way :P
[14:15] <airdem> i can boot ionto it but things like sudo do not work
[14:15] <PatrickBic> you either lack a lib
[14:15] <PatrickBic> or the cpp code is faulty
[14:15] <z0net> PatrickBic, omg :O
[14:16] <airdem> i think the file permissions and ownerships are messed up
[14:16] <airdem> is there and easy way to fix all this? or should i reinstall=
[14:17] <PatrickBic> airdem, do you know the "right" file permissions?
[14:17] <PatrickBic> z0net, is that your code?
[14:17] <z0net> PatrickBic, yes.. all of it
[14:18] <PatrickBic> z0net, try something along that: "g++ -Wall moo.cpp moo2.cpp moo3.cpp -o program"
[14:18] <PatrickBic> replace moo.cpp (and following) of course :P
[14:18] <airdem> PatrickBic, no i just went into rescue mode, mounted root partition and did a chown -R root:root on it
[14:19] <PatrickBic> you copied your whole /home to some backup.. and back now.. right?
[14:19] <airdem> yes and root
[14:20] <PatrickBic> airdem, well.. from (guessing) i would say r,x,w to user, r,x to group and 0 to others
[14:20] <PatrickBic> lemme see what my /home says :P
[14:20] <z0net> PatrickBic, only the cpp files? or even the .h ones?
[14:20] <PatrickBic> drwxr-xr-x
[14:20] <PatrickBic> z0net, you dont compile .h files
[14:20] <PatrickBic> they get included when needed/used (#include and stuff)
[14:20] <multi_io> is there a kernel 2.6.31 source package that works with Ubuntu 10.04?
[14:21] <z0net> PatrickBic, so "g++ -Wall *.cpp -o program" should work?
[14:22] <PatrickBic> z0net, i wouldnt use *.cpp  (maybe you want to place temp files in this dir that shouldn't be compiled ... just personal opinion)
[14:22] <PatrickBic> i would use moo.cpp moo2.cpp and so on
[14:22] <PatrickBic> so a list of .cpp files
[14:23] <z0net> ok.. I'll try
[14:23] <shishire> is there a good way to get a trace of all files a program opens?  gnome-screensaver-preferences is doing something funky with it's idle_time value (i.e., not storing it in my gconf, but somewhere else), and I want to see what it's opening.
[14:23] <PatrickBic> shishire, there is
[14:23] <PatrickBic> one sec
[14:24] <shishire> PatrickBic, :D ty in advance
[14:25] <z0net> PatrickBic, I got a lot of errors again =\
[14:25] <rileyp> anyone using nvidia 256 drivers?
[14:25] <TroyTheTechGuy> Installed 10.4 last night but having issue when booting. I have 2 HD: 1 formated ext4 and partitioned /, /home,swap, other HD is mix of prev. ubuntu install (/,/home,swap) & XP.  When booting w/ both drives I get the following msg: "Could not update ICEauthority file /home/user/.ICEauthority  However, if I unplug the 2nd drive it boots fine.  Suggestions?
[14:26] <PatrickBic> shishire, ls -l /proc/2228/fd/
[14:26] <mgraf> buy one big drive :P
[14:26] <PatrickBic> 2228 being the pid
[14:26] <compsman> Gnea, still cant obtain ip address
[14:26] <z0net> PatrickBic, are busy or something? =\ I could send you the link of these sources so you could teach me how to fix these errors
[14:26] <compsman> Gnea, also another note wicd picks up my neighbors wifi and it wont obtain a ip there eiver
[14:26] <PatrickBic> z0net, well.. i hardly see anything on the screen (think i partly killed my graphics card)
[14:26] <PatrickBic> you can send them but i am unsure if i can have a look at them today/tomorrow
[14:27] <PatrickBic> no clue how long it takes me to fix that
[14:27] <z0net> PatrickBic, that's ok.. I'll keep trying then ;p
[14:27] <compsman> or anyone?
[14:27] <z0net> PatrickBic, thanks a lot anyway ;p
[14:27] <PatrickBic> no problem
[14:27] <PatrickBic> ok: anyone any idea on my posted question 10 to 15min ago?
[14:28] <PatrickBic> :P
[14:28] <PatrickBic> thing i came for :P
[14:28] <mgraf> i was having the same problem with wicd, ended up switching to knetworkmanager and it working fine
[14:28] <compsman> no kdi
[14:28] <compsman> gnome.
[14:29] <mgraf> done need it, it use flux
[14:29] <mgraf> *i use flux
[14:29] <compsman> still wifi radar and wicd wont obtain ip
[14:29] <PatrickBic> dhclient wlan0 ?
[14:30] <chadi_> how can I see what kernels I have?
[14:30] <compsman> its eth12 not wlan0...
[14:30] <PatrickBic> well.. :P
[14:30] <compsman> eth1*
[14:30] <PatrickBic> chadi_, ls /boot
[14:30] <PatrickBic> (beside grub dir :P)
[14:30] <PatrickBic> and some stuff.. but mostly kernel images there
[14:30] <chadi_> yeah, ty
[14:30] <PatrickBic> chadi_, and installed kernel is uname -a
[14:31] <PatrickBic> *running
[14:32] <osteenbergen> Hi, I need some help. Tried to connect my laptop to my new HDTV but it keeps saying no signal. Ubuntu sees my tv, but as 57" instead of 32"
[14:32] <osteenbergen> just using VGA btw
[14:33] <osteenbergen> I know my laptop works and that my tv works.. Its a macbook pro 4.1 with nouveau drivers
[14:34] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know ow to setup a Data/fax 56k modem model AMB8802
[14:35] <perlsyntax> when i try wvdilaconf
[14:36] <perlsyntax> i  get this error
[14:36] <perlsyntax> Scanning your serial ports for a modem.Modem Port Scan<*1>: S1   S2   S3
[14:36] <perlsyntax> Anyone know why i get this?
[14:36] <osteenbergen> Not me
[14:37] <perlsyntax> it a AmbiCom modem
[14:37] <perlsyntax> :) somene got to know
[14:38] <perlsyntax> I not sure what driver i need for it i thought the driver was in the kernel.
[14:38] <symtab_> hi
[14:38] <perlsyntax> hi
[14:38] <galaux> Hi there !
[14:38] <symtab> anyone here who knows how to add the volume indicator to the panel?
[14:38] <symtab> seems like i removed it by mistake
[14:38] <symtab> ubuntu 10.4
[14:38] <abhi_nav> perlsyntax, linmodem.org
[14:38] <symtab> it doesnt appear in the apps when you select add to panel
[14:39] <osteenbergen> indeed :O
[14:39] <perlsyntax> ?
[14:39] <galaux> Does anyone know some about upstart? I made a simple script that I manage to get launched upon shutdown but upstart won't wait for it to finish
[14:39] <perlsyntax> how would i get scanModem to pick up what driver i need?
[14:39] <osteenbergen> symtab do you have the indicator applet on your panel
[14:39] <osteenbergen> the volume is now part of that
[14:40] <osteenbergen> So add to panel -> Indicator Applet
[14:40] <perlsyntax> dead link
[14:41] <perlsyntax> look like none know.don't look shock to me.
[14:41]  * osteenbergen restarting and hoping that proprietary drivers can fix my 'no signal' issue :(
[14:41] <symtab> k
[14:41] <cba123> I'm trying to decide between Google-Desktop, Tracker and Beagle.  I had Beagle and it seemed to crash, and Tracker stopped working as my index was getting complete.  My only hesitation with Google-Desktop is that it isn't open source.  Any advice?
[14:42] <symtab> thank you
[14:42] <symtab> works
[14:42] <perlsyntax> i rem the pc card did work with ubuntu 9.10 and i not sure why not pi up the modem.
[14:42] <perlsyntax> pick
[14:42] <MikeChelen> cba123: haven't noticed crashes with beagle, it can be cpu intensive when indexing though
[14:42] <Joe\\> how do i make samba able to share files in /home/user/? right now it only works with folders in /
[14:42] <symtab> the new desktop theme looks awesome btw
[14:43] <symtab> congrats
[14:43] <cba123> MikeChelen, I've searched for files that I know exist, and it either doesn't find them, or it crashes.
[14:43] <perlsyntax> i love talking to myself it a fun hobby lol
[14:43] <MikeChelen> cba123: what is the crash error, tried submitting bug report?
[14:44] <MikeChelen> !repeat | perlsyntax
[14:44] <perlsyntax> i do what i want to.
[14:45] <perlsyntax> it  joke in here.
[14:45] <abhi_nav> perlsyntax, had you visited linimodem.org? they are for this purpose only
[14:45] <perlsyntax> how would i get scanModem to ick up my pc card modem?
[14:45] <cba123> MikeChelen, No error is listed, it just doesn't want find it, even when it says the index is complete.  The search backend seems to crash as well, but I can't reproduce it at will.
[14:46] <cba123> it just doesn't find it*
[14:47] <galaux> Hi! Any upstart gurus around here :) ?
[14:47] <perlsyntax> what the matter get that shot out of your face.
[14:47]  * abhi_nav bans Perun 
[14:47] <abhi_nav> sorry
[14:47] <abhi_nav> :(
[14:48] <MikeChelen> cba123: hmm weird, might be two different bugs, or possibly one is causing the other
[14:48] <mibocote> is there a way to continously read a file and be able to pipe it to grep?
[14:49] <ZykoticK9> abhi_nav, FYI it's http://www.linmodems.org/ not linimodem.org
[14:49] <abhi_nav> ZykoticK9, yes. it was typing mistake. i live in idnia? you understand? then whats the problem?
[14:50] <galaux> mibocote, like 'tail -f' ?
[14:50] <ZykoticK9> abhi_nav, i see perlsyntax is gone, just wanted to point out the url problem
[14:50] <abhi_nav> ZykoticK9, yah. sure.
[14:50] <mibocote> galaux: kind of, but I need to reread the entire file
[14:50] <stickboy> Anyone else here play Tremulous? I can't switch from the game window to another window or the desktop using commands. any ideas?
[14:51] <galaux> you mean heach time it gets updated you need the full content?
[14:51] <ZykoticK9> stickboy, common with games that "grab" you mouse
[14:52] <ZykoticK9> stickboy, that's "your mouse and keyboard" ;)
[14:52] <stickboy> ZykoticK9, any idea on how to disable?
[14:52] <mibocote> being able to read the file every second would work, I want to watch /proc/meminfo to see how low the free memory gets, so I want to do something like ??? /proc/meminfo | grep MemFree | awk 'BEGIN { min=9999999 }; $2 < min { $min=$2 }; END { print min }'
[14:53] <galaux> hum I see
[14:53] <ZykoticK9> stickboy, for mouse it would be VERY difficult to play perhaps if you did (thinking FPS).  You can always switch to a virtual console ctrl+alt+f1 and run console commands perhaps?  good luck man.
[14:54] <cba123> MikeChelen, Either way, is google-desktop something to worry about?
[14:54] <stickboy> ZykoticK9, thanks
[14:54] <galaux> mibocote, what about a small script with a while true loop?
[14:54] <mibocote> that would work, but I was hoping there would be a way to do it without making a copy of the script on all the servers
[14:55] <MikeChelen> cba123: worry how so? it is a good piece of software, just isn't open source and therefore cannot be installed through repos or updated by the community
[14:55] <abhi_nav> i was disconnected. anything i missed?
[14:57] <galaux> mibocote, while true; do grep MemFree /proc/meminfo | awk 'BEGIN { min=9999999 }; $2 < min { $min=$2 }; END { print min }'; sleep 1; done
[14:57] <cba123> MikeChelen, I meant as far as privacy.  I know google claims privacy, but just a thought, idk
[14:58] <symtab> any ideas where empathy saves the account list?
[14:59] <galaux> Does anyone know why upstart wouldn't wait for the end of my script before shutting down the computer?
[15:02] <mibocote> galaux: awk won't keep any state in that so it will just print the value every second
[15:03] <bugs_bugger> indu: hey, sorry. i thought it might be clever to copy the data under win. took 15 mins to copy 2 gigs...
[15:03] <bugs_bugger> indus: hey, sorry. i thought it might be clever to copy the data under win. took 15 mins to copy 2 gigs...
[15:03] <galaux> hum true!
[15:04] <bugs_bugger> indus: but its working now. after safely removing the card under windows, ubuntu mounts it properly
[15:04] <bugs_bugger> indus: thanks for your time. cheers
[15:04] <mibocote> hm, awk has the while control structure with file io, I'll just write an awk program then
[15:06] <galaux> mibocote, sounds good! Let me know if you manage to do what you want
[15:07] <hrp2171> help!  can't install ultimate edition themes in 10.04.  10.04 no longer uses usplash and it's one of the dependencies.
[15:07] <MikeChelen> cba123: don't have any reason to suspect it to be unsafe. there are some options about sharing indexing across computers that could be disabled to be on safe side
[15:08] <symtab> now...here's my situatia...my old xps is dead...i have my messenger accounts from empathy in backup...i have a inspiron now and i want to get my old accounts
[15:08] <symtab> how can i do this?
[15:08] <symtab> the keyring is encrypted
[15:08] <symtab> :(
[15:08] <FloodBot2> symtab: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:08] <hrp2171> symtab, which keyring?  the current one or the one in the backup?
[15:08] <symtab> the backup one of course
[15:09] <hrp2171> symtab, oh nevermind! was going to have you delete the current one and it should ask for new info.
[15:10] <Oer> symtab you do not know your messenger pass anymore ?
[15:10] <symtab> i have separate passwords for each accounts and it would be easier to just import them (aim, yahoo, msn,....)
[15:11] <hrp2171> off to UE forums...then work...laters!
[15:11] <polomint> anyone in the ubuntu-offtopic channel?
[15:12] <polomint> wonkyHat, why did u ban me?
[15:12] <Pici> polomint: Please join #ubuntu-ops if you'd like to appeal your ban.
[15:12] <IdleOne> polomint: please join #ubuntu-ops to discuss bans
[15:12] <polomint> i will
[15:13] <zomgbie> wow i somehow managed to kill my xorg/gnome setup after hopelessly trying to get my ubuntu 10 to see my ihpone 3gs
[15:14] <zomgbie> after i already did a dist-upgrade ... can i somehow roll back or force reinstall of all default packages from the standard console?
[15:16] <frostburn> is there an alternative to evolution for syncing AD calendars?
[15:16] <zomgbie> is there a way to roll back / reinstall all default packages from a given distribution on the console? (apt-get command)?
[15:16] <zomgbie> s/distribution/version/
[15:17] <perlsyntax> I install the kernel headers and modem driver when i do  wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf i get the same error.
[15:17] <perlsyntax> odd
[15:17] <zomgbie> gnome/xorg won't come up again after i seemingly took some crucial dependencies with some usb related packags
[15:18] <perlsyntax> ?
[15:18] <perlsyntax> ?
[15:18] <perlsyntax> HELLLO!
[15:19] <abhi_nav> its again
[15:21] <savid> Hi, I can see that something on my computer is using a lot of network bandwidth.  Is there a way to see what processes are using the most bandwidth?
[15:22] <rww> !info nethogs | savid
[15:24] <savid> rww, thanks!
[15:25] <whlspacedude> 1234 people in room!
[15:25] <savid> Odd, pulseaudio seems to be sending a lot of data
[15:26] <abhi_nav> no they all are bots
[15:26] <abhi_nav> I mean we all are bots. :)
[15:26] <whlspacedude> but are you sentinel ?
[15:27] <abhi_nav> ??
[15:27] <whlspacedude> obviously not
[15:30] <kubanc> is ubuntu 10.04 for 64 bit processors good?
[15:30] <abhi_nav> kubanc, offcourse!!!
[15:30] <bastid_raZor> kubanc: i use it and would recommend it for anyone.
[15:31] <whlspacedude> kubanc: i use it every day.
[15:31] <kubanc> ok, thnx for help, doing download already ;)
[15:34] <ring0> if i want to add an option to /etc/default/grub, would i use GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT or GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX?
[15:36] <abhi_nav> !grub2 | ring0
[15:38] <overrider> Is there a commandline curses app that lets me choose my sources, so i can pick a mirror close to me? Via GUI its Preferences -> Software Sources. Or should i find my mirror from somewhere on the Website, and add it manually into /etc/apt/sources.plist?
[15:39] <ring0> abhi_nav, so, considering i'd like to add an option for video=uvesafb, i'd take GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX so the resolution is modified even for recovery boot?
[15:40] <abhi_nav> ring0, that link wll give you more depth knowledge. i never done it
[15:42] <eazel7> hi thousand of users, I googled, but I can't find or understand well the answers. my machine's hostname is 'lulu', but at some point it changes it's name to dhcppc42 I guess this is a dhcp supplied hostname. how can I tell my machine to ignore it and keeps it's lovely 'lulu' name?
[15:44] <abhi_nav> hulu lulu
[15:45] <belkinsa> Did you ask in the forums?
[15:45] <lucidity> nobody told me wubi how to?
[15:45] <azlon> how can i get the path for my webcam? i thought it was /dev/video0 but it doesnt work
[15:46] <abhi_nav> !wubi | lucidity
[15:46] <belkinsa> What type of Wubi How to do you need?
[15:50] <lucidity> do i need internet connection with wubi?
[15:51] <belkinsa> Does any know if 181fm.com only uses Windows Media Player to play the internet radio stations?
[15:52] <darkkrai> is there anyway to get this functionality with empathy? http://img.digsby.com/screenshots/7_popups.png
[15:52] <whlspacedude> aww lucidity left.
[15:52] <belkinsa> Yeah, I wanted to answer the question.   :)
[15:53] <whlspacedude> darkkrai: id use that too.  if you find it let us know
[15:55] <belkinsa> When you choose another app to open a file on FireFox, how to find what the app is in the file system?
[15:56] <mguy> belkinsa: Open a terminal and type 'whereis commmandname'
[15:57] <darkkrai> whlspacedude, its planned in gnome shell
[15:58] <whlspacedude> darkkrai: cool. thanks for the update
[15:58] <darkkrai> np
[16:00] <airdem> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/231341/ <-- whats wrong in here?
[16:01] <Oer> airden add the pub key of the repo you added.
[16:03] <Djoef> Hi, any suggestions for a simple online knowledge base system, where I could store txt files, links images etc
[16:03] <belkinsa> I can't get totem or mplayer to play any streams from internet radio stations?  I have all of the plug-ins and extars, but nothing.  What am I doing wrong?
[16:03] <edbian> Djoef, Not sure what a knowledge base system but Ubuntu one lets you store personal files online
[16:04] <belkinsa> Dropbox does also.
[16:04] <Djoef> edbian, it should be interactive, not just folders with files
[16:04] <k1> Hey. I want to encrypt my whole SSD that i runs ubuntu on. like i did in windows with truecrypt. how can i do that?
[16:05] <belkinsa> Djoef: Try Dropbox.
[16:05] <Djoef> belkinsa, I have dropbox
[16:06] <Oer> belkinsa look for .pls or .m3u to play radiostations
[16:06] <Djoef> I need to be able to create pages on the fly, with links etc, and I want to be able to search (keyword) for howto-pages ..
[16:06] <edbian> Djoef, Interactive?  Can you give an example of such a website?
[16:07] <Djoef> edbian, a bit like wiki
[16:07] <edbian> Djoef, ?  wikipedia?
[16:07] <Djoef> edbian, indeed
[16:07] <airdem> Oer, i did a sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
[16:07] <airdem> bu it still get the error
[16:08] <darkkrai> how do I install gnome shell?
[16:08] <rww> darkkrai: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell, on recent versions of Ubuntu
[16:08] <rww> darkkrai: then alt-f2 => "gnome-shell --replace" to actually run it
[16:08] <Oer> airdem, use the 2 key numbers like this >  sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 0EE1BF5F3C8E2A7F && sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys D6B6DB186A68F637
[16:08] <erghezi> how font  issue as bug reports to launchpad?
[16:09] <rww> ubottu: bug | erghezi
[16:09] <erghezi> rww:  but i cant report bad font :|
[16:10] <jlilly> Where should I be looking for rebinding the F1 key to ESC?
[16:10] <erghezi> default font in Ubuntu is so bad for persian people .
[16:10] <abuayyoub> Hello all. Can someone help me please. I have a complete backup of my /home folder... if I were to do a complete re-install would I be able to completly restore all my files, folders, settings, themes etc just by replacing the /home folder? if so, how can I do that?
[16:10] <airdem> Oer, i think its because of the keyserver. its down, possibly
[16:10] <jlilly> abuayyoub: most of them, probably.
[16:10] <Slart> jlilly: a utility called xmodmap
[16:11] <airdem> gpg: keyserver timed out
[16:11] <airdem> gpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error
[16:11] <abuayyoub> jlilly,  cool. How can I do that? I tried it before but i ended up breaking the entire install.
[16:11] <Avasz> can i get some help on ssh here?
[16:12] <erghezi> is there any way, report "bad font" as bug in launchpad?
[16:12] <abhi_nav> !ssh
[16:13] <k1> I want to encrypt my whole system partition. how can i do that?
[16:13] <Oer> airdem, i see, there is something down
[16:13] <abhi_nav> k1 truecrypt
[16:13] <abhi_nav> k1, http://www.truecrypt.org/
[16:13] <k1> abhi_nav, I did that in windows but it's not supported in the ubuntu verison :/
[16:13] <Avasz> abhi_nav, if there is no openssh server installed in the machine then isnt there any way to ssh to it?
[16:14] <Benkinooby> hi i found out, that when the "lm" flag is set, my laptop has a 64 bit cpu. i typed cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "lm" and i got lahf_lm. so is this 64 bit or not? the output of cat /proc/cpuinfo is http://pastebin.com/9G5VUs06
[16:14] <abhi_nav> k1, ????? it is a open source project. it is for linux. sure. read first
[16:14] <Benkinooby> can some1 tell me, wheter i sould go for 32 bit or 64?
[16:14] <abhi_nav> Avasz, read that link
[16:14] <abhi_nav> Benkinooby, for 64 bit for sure
[16:14] <k1> abhi_nav, "The version for Windows 7, Windows Vista or Windows XP can encrypt the boot partition or entire boot drive."
[16:15] <Benkinooby> where can u read it from?
[16:15] <abhi_nav> Pici, now I highly recommend seriously for that !64bit factoid. Please consider it seriously.
[16:15] <k1> The most realible source in the world where everything is true. wikipedia!
[16:15] <Slart> Benkinooby: 64bit if your cpu can handle it and you've got more than 4gb memory
[16:15] <abhi_nav> Benkinooby, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit
[16:15] <Pici> !64 | abhi_nav ?
[16:16] <azlon> for some reason i can't get zoneminder to recognize my cameras... anybody experience this?
[16:16] <popey> that page directly contradicts ubuntu.com abhi_nav
[16:16] <abhi_nav> Pici, i ddnt know that
[16:16] <Slart> popey: you mean the thing on the download page about 64bit not being suitable for home use?
[16:16] <iflema> Benkinooby sudo lshw -C cpu
[16:16] <abhi_nav> popey, the link i gave is right. other is not updates. its wrong
[16:17] <popey> Slart: it doesnt say that, it says 'not recommended'
[16:17] <popey> abhi_nav: its community documentation, it could be wrong :)
[16:17] <Slart> popey: oh.. they changed it? it's still nonsense..
[16:17] <popey> Slart: no, they haven't the bug is still open
[16:17] <abhi_nav> Pici, can we add a sentence in it '64 bit is strongly recommended unless you have special reason to go for 32 bit' ?
[16:17] <k1> abhi_nav, Is there any other tool to encrypt the system partition that works good with ubuntu?
[16:17] <abhi_nav> popey, its not updates. the link i gave is updated and write.
[16:18] <Benkinooby> http://pastebin.com/muiwCDhB
[16:18] <abhi_nav> k1,  TRUECRYPT WORKS WITH LINUX
[16:18] <^DEMOSS^> hello again
[16:18] <popey> abhi_nav: i am sorry, I dont undertstand your terse replies. I'm specifically saying that the community wiki "recommends" 64 bit, ubuntu.com "recommends" 32-bit
[16:18] <abuayyoub> Hi, anyone here use DockBarX? I am wondering if there is a way to put information like, volume, battery,networking, etc into Dockbar. I hate the indicator applet. it messes up my theme but I still need that info and the functionality
[16:19] <Benkinooby> iflema: http://pastebin.com/muiwCDhB
[16:19] <abhi_nav> popey, so? whtas your point?
[16:19] <Craig_Dem> Put that info into conky.
[16:19] <popey> abhi_nav: conflicting advice
[16:19] <^DEMOSS^> i have a question for msql packages - need i for my server "mysql-server-core 5.1" or i can delete it ?
[16:19] <Benkinooby> iflema: with is 32 bits.. so is it 32 bit cpu that understand 64 bit commands?
[16:19] <k1> abhi_nav, I think you misunderstood me, i dont mean to be impolite. im using truecrypt right now to encrypt my storage harddrives. but what do i do about the system one? you saw that text i pasted from wiki about truecrypt system partition encryption now working in ubuntu right?
[16:20] <abhi_nav> popey, there is no conflict. i gave him the link which recommends 64 bit. whats conflicting in that?
[16:20] <popey> abhi_nav: as I said, ubuntu.com recommends 32-bit, that link recommends 64-bit, a conflict
[16:20] <Benkinooby> abhi_nav: how did u know i have 64 bit cpu?
[16:20] <collink> Is it possible to use both an nVidia GeForce card and an ATI Radeon card at the same time to acheive a 3-monitor setup?
[16:20] <abhi_nav> ohhh thats why I gave  the 'corrrect' link popey ?
[16:21] <abhi_nav> Benkinooby, ??? whats your question?
[16:21] <popey> abhi_nav: i give up
[16:21] <abhi_nav> popey, me too.
[16:21] <whlspacedude> i just recommend using the same architecture as the CPU for ubuntu.  especially if you have more than 4gb of ram
[16:21] <iflema> Benkinooby looks like a netbook.... 32bit cpu
[16:21] <k1> That's the spirit!
[16:21] <abhi_nav> k1, whats wrong with truecypt?
[16:21] <bastid_raZor> Benkinooby: cat /proc/cupinfo | grep -i lm   .. if youget a result then you have 64bit
[16:21] <k1> abhi_nav, it does not support system drive encryption on the linux verisons
[16:22] <abhi_nav> k1 hmm
[16:22] <k1> abhi_nav, "The version for Windows 7, Windows Vista or Windows XP can encrypt the boot partition or entire boot drive."
[16:22] <k1> From wiki
[16:22] <abhi_nav> k1 i see.
[16:23] <erghezi> rww: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/?no-redirect
[16:23] <Benkinooby> bastid_raZor: this is what i allready did... i have something like lahf_lm. not lm alone
[16:23] <erghezi> rww: here you can report directly
[16:23] <k1> I got a link in ubuntu-se now so i will check that out but thanks for yours time
[16:23] <abhi_nav> Benkinooby, paste your uname -a result here
[16:24] <Benkinooby> Linux box 2.6.32-22-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 3 22:02:19 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux but uname gives me only info about my OS. this does not say, if my HW is 64 bit
[16:24] <wonkyHat> ^DEMOSS^: which version of mysql server do you have installed? if it's not 5.1 then you don't. You can always try removing it and see if that causes other packages you need to be removed.
[16:24] <iflema> Benkinooby i686
[16:25] <abhi_nav> Benkinooby, its 32bit system
[16:26] <Benkinooby> iflema: i was somehow confused, because i got the lahf_lm in my cpuinfo. but now i also guess it is 32 bit.. also because intel says so ;) http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=36331
[16:26] <zulgaban> hi
[16:26] <bazhang> abhi_nav, that's just the installed arch, not the cpu
[16:26] <Benkinooby> abhi_nav: thnak you for your time and efforts.
[16:26] <Benkinooby> iflema: thank you fro your help+
[16:26] <abhi_nav> bazhang, yah
[16:26] <abhi_nav> Benkinooby, ok.
[16:26] <bazhang> abhi_nav, he wants to know the cpu , not the arch
[16:27] <abhi_nav> bazhang, yah. i got it
[16:27] <Oer> install sysinfo, it will tell you more about your cpu
[16:27] <Benkinooby> ???
[16:27] <Benkinooby> so now the search goes on :D
[16:28] <^DEMOSS^> wonkyHat:  iinstall "mysql server" then "mysql-server-5.1" then "CORE**"
[16:28] <Slart> Benkinooby: listen to bastid_raZor "cat /proc/cupinfo | grep -i lm   .. if youget a result then you have 64bit" .. I've seen that used before to decide if a system is 64bit capable or not
[16:28] <^DEMOSS^> but i think i do not need core
[16:28] <abhi_nav> Benkinooby, you still dont know which cpu you have?
[16:28] <bazhang> Benkinooby, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[16:29] <Benkinooby> Slart, i did this, but i get lahf_lm i am not sure if this is 64 bit or not. i pastet all this to paste bin....
[16:29] <^DEMOSS^> can i have problem if install "mysql server" & "mysql-server-5.1" ??
[16:29] <abhi_nav> Benkinooby, do as said by bazhang and see if a flag called 'lm' is listed. if yes then cpu is 64 if not then 32
[16:29] <abhi_nav> Benkinooby, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-how-to-find-if-processor-is-64-bit-or-not/
[16:29] <cyphase> whats the best way to install python2.5 in lucid?
[16:30] <Pici> Benkinooby: Alternatively, use lscpu, its human readable.
[16:30] <Sereph> can the places menu be configured at all?
[16:30] <datacrusher> is there a 3g monitor app?
[16:30] <Exilant> Does someone know about the status of the ubuntu keyserver? http://keyserver.ubuntu.com just shows an "it works", and gpg cannot retrieve keys for it. Is this a temporary problem?
[16:30] <datacrusher> to search for signal issues or something
[16:31] <Sereph> Exilant: "It Works!" is the default apache website index page
[16:31] <rww> Exilant: It's temporary in that it's temporarily down. It's not temporary in that this happens frequently.
[16:31] <Pici> Exilant: Likely, you can use pgp.mit.edu in its place if you need to download keys.
[16:31] <rww> Exilant: also, keyserver.ubuntu.com:80 isn't the normal keyserver address. It's on some random port that I generally use Google to get to
[16:31] <Benkinooby> abhi_nav, so has it to be lm or is lahf_lm also ok? i have see all these links you sent me before (usually i do my homework before asking questions) but i have no "pure" lm like the example from the site has. but i have lahf_lm
[16:32] <abhi_nav> Benkinooby, 'lm'
[16:32] <Benkinooby> lscpu did it!!!!
[16:32] <gay_jesus> i want to use ubuntu, but i'm not sure it's for me
[16:32] <rww> Exilant: keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371 , by the look of it. which is down right now, but for future reference...
[16:32] <ddurham> any way to change the authentication order for ssh?
[16:32] <ddurham> I see: debug1: Authentications that can continue: gssapi-keyex,gssapi-with-mic,publickey,password,keyboard-interactive
[16:32] <Benkinooby> Pici, thanks. this tipe helped a lot... got Architecture:          i686
[16:32] <Benkinooby> CPU op-mode(s):        32-bit
[16:32] <Benkinooby> CPU(s):                2
[16:32] <Exilant> Thanks a lot for the clarification. So i'll try the other keyserver, and otherwise wat till it's fixed(so apt-add-repository will work again)
[16:32] <ddurham> I'd like to force keyboard-interactive
[16:33] <gay_jesus> is ubuntu supported by the homosexual community?
[16:33] <Benkinooby> abhi_nav, ok, thank you, now i am 100% sure. lscpu is the magic command ;)
[16:33] <bazhang> gay_jesus, please stop that
[16:33] <gay_jesus> stop what?
[16:33] <^DEMOSS^> what about my question ?
[16:33] <abhi_nav> Benkinooby, tell me also what happends?
[16:33] <Benkinooby> abhi_nav, ?
[16:33] <yessir_turan> gandhijee: Hello
[16:33] <gay_jesus> homosexuals are great coders, i'm wondering if there's any on the ubuntu team
[16:33] <octe> does anyone know if you can create a raid1 with 1 drive and 1 drive missing in the ubuntu server installation?
[16:33] <abhi_nav> Benkinooby, ok i read it. good luck. :)
[16:33] <LjL> !ot | gay_jesus
[16:34] <gay_jesus> i want to know if ubuntu is supportative of the gay community
[16:34] <gay_jesus> LjL is a homophobe
[16:34] <LjL> gay_jesus: get out
[16:34] <abuayyoub> someone please ban gay Jesus
[16:34] <Benkinooby> lol
[16:34] <voss749> gay_jesus, as far as i know
[16:34] <rww> voss749: they're gone
[16:35] <abuayyoub> anyone here use a program called NZBGet?
[16:35] <maco> and for anyone wondering: yes, of course there are gay people involved in creating ubuntu
[16:35] <octe> ubuntu is a gay distribution?
[16:35] <Benkinooby> -.-
[16:35] <phuzion> Hi, I just ran an update from 8.04 to 10.04 (individual steps), and now my server won't boot.  Any suggestions on how to resolve this?
[16:35] <LjL> !ot
[16:35] <abuayyoub> octe, i think this is offtopic
[16:35] <maco> octe: its for all  human beings
[16:35] <phuzion> octe, go troll elsewhere.
[16:35] <Elad> I am attempting to run a perl page from my base apache install and I have tried setting up the directives but the perl page still just shows up as straight perl code.. how do I go about trouble shooting this
[16:36] <octe> phuzion, thought i might as well as probably no one knows the answer to my question :p
[16:36] <keith4> Elad: put it in /usr/lib/cgi-bin
[16:36] <cyphase> Whats the best way to install python2.5 in lucid so as not to break 2.6?
[16:37] <abuayyoub> Am I the only person on IRC that uses usenet?
[16:37] <Elad> keith4, isn't there a way to do it in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default?
[16:37] <azlon> when i nmap my ip address it says my port 80 is closed. i have apache installed, how can i open port 80?
[16:37] <abuayyoub> I been asking for weeks and can't find a single person to help me
[16:37] <voss749> there actualy is gaybuntu
[16:38] <LjL> please. seriously, stay on topic.
[16:38] <LjL> i can't believe there's still trails of the troll going on.
[16:38] <keith4> Elad: scripts aren't executable outside of a script dir, by default. but you can change that
[16:38] <phuzion> How can I tell which bootloader I have on my install?
[16:39] <Exilant> azlon: well, depends on how you connect. in a default ubuntu installation, port 80 should open to the network
[16:39] <Elad> keith4, it is bugzilla that I am trying to install
[16:39] <LJRuff> Does /boot go in fstab and what options should it get if it does?
[16:39] <OpenSourcedNick> I want to read news from a couple of sites (rss), which program would you recommend should I do it with?
[16:40] <azlon> Exilant, im sure it is something i'm not doing right, but this is my first time playing around with apache. am i correct by trying to nmap -p80 <myip>?
[16:40] <keith4> Elad: doesn't the package handle that for you, then?
[16:40] <Exilant> azlon: but that might be only local, and the dsl router/cablemodem/whatever might have a build-in fire
[16:40] <dajhorn> LJRuff:  /boot should be in the fstab if it is a separate filesystem like this:  /dev/sda1 /boot ext4 defaults 0 2
[16:40] <Elad> keith4, I wanted the newer source so I installed manually - followed the install documentation to a 'T' but just get code to display instead of a bugzilla login page
[16:40] <abuayyoub> LjL,  is there a program I can use to scan my install for errors ? I have been having some strange things lately, my computer has been bogging down and the os becomes almost completely non responsive. no idea why. I have been considering doing a fresh install but I am afraid I will loose all my customizations ( which is nearly ever aspect of the distro) if I copy my entire /home file can I restore it after a fresh install if so how?
[16:41] <phuzion> Exilant, eth0 on fire?
[16:41] <Exilant> azlon: can you try it on the machine itself? w3m localhost or so in ssh if it's headless, or use nmap there?
[16:41] <dajhorn> LJRuff: If you installed your Ubuntu system to only one filesystem, then /boot does not go in the fstab.
[16:41] <ImaLamer> abuayyoub, best to backup both /home and /etc
[16:41] <Exilant> azlon, phuzion: s/fire/firewall/
[16:41] <LjL> abuayyoub: there's a program to check your HDD, and there's a program to check package consistency, but those don't seem likely culprits of what you are describing
[16:42] <LJRuff> dajhorn: / and /home have seperate parts
[16:42] <ImaLamer> abuayyoub: you have options to restore - grsync or another might be best
[16:42] <phuzion> Exilant, reference to "lp0 on fire?"
[16:42] <abuayyoub> ImaLamer, oh yea? cool. Do you have a program that you can recommend? I been using back in time but all that does I think is copy the home folder.
[16:42] <azlon> Exilant, so i did a nmap -p80 127.0.0.1 and it says open
[16:42] <keith4> Elad: you need to allow CGI exec in that directory then. try #httpd
[16:42] <azlon> hrmm...
[16:42] <azlon> Exilant, how can i find where the firewall is?
[16:42] <ImaLamer> or you can try sbackup - though i'm limited on knowing backup applications on linux
[16:42] <Exilant> azlon: well, what is your local ip? what does ifconfig say?
[16:43] <Elad> keith4, sorry for my ignorance, does #httpd mean that I should ask in that IRC room?
[16:43] <phuzion> I just ran apt-get dist-upgrade on my server, and now it won't reboot.  Can someone help me out?
[16:43] <keith4> Elad: yes
[16:43] <azlon> Exilant, 192.168.1.10
[16:43] <Elad> keith4, thanks
[16:43] <switch10_> abuayyoub: Im pretty sure you can tell back in time to backup any dir that you choose.  I use rsync to backup.
[16:43] <Exilant> azlon: then the dsl-modem/cablesomething/whatever is probably at 192.168.1.1
[16:43] <azlon> Exilant, 192.168.1.10:80 is open
[16:44] <abuayyoub> LjL, yea, I am not sure what the problem is. The entire computer gets super hot, it boggs down even if im just using something like chrome. This is a new machine, its got enough power, and I don't think its a cooling problem because the fan is blowing fine. For some reason I think it is the power managment thing.
[16:44] <ImaLamer> abuayyoub: your home folder is going to have most of your settings - but /etc should be backed up and restored as needed
[16:44] <azlon> Exilant, right, the soho router is 192.168.1.1, nmap says 192.168.1.1:80 is open
[16:44] <Exilant> azlon: and you need that device to port-forward to 192.168.1.10
[16:44] <ImaLamer> sorry, i have to go afk
[16:44] <dajhorn> LJRuff: Then you do not need a /boot line.
[16:44] <azlon> Exilant, it is forwarding to 192.168.1.10:80
[16:44] <LJRuff> thx dajhorn
[16:44] <ImaLamer> oh wait, i have a question!
[16:45] <dajhorn> LJRuff: Welcome.
[16:45] <abuayyoub> switch10_, you recommend it? will it restore the backup after I re-install?
[16:45] <pepePlu> hey guys, i have ubuntu 10.04 and damn there's a lot of garbage on my grub menu, how to remove the garbage and keep 2 entries, Ubuntu and windows
[16:45] <LjL> abuayyoub: uhm, i wouldn't rule out overheating though. have you tried installing lm-sensors to see just how hot it gets?
[16:45] <keith4> azlon: lots of ISPs block incoming port 80...
[16:45] <ImaLamer> During an update I replaced grub with grub2 - where (if at all) can i find the old grub options
[16:45] <^DEMOSS^> i install "mysql server" then "mysql-server-5.1" then "mysql-server-CORE 5.1" \\ can i have problem if install "mysql server" & "mysql-server-5.1" ??  can i remove core ? i  need this pkg ?
[16:45] <dajhorn> pepePlu: Describe the garbage.  What is there that shouldn't be there?
[16:45] <ImaLamer> basically, i lost some custom kernel options...
[16:46] <switch10_> after you install what?  rsync is already installed on your system.  man rsync.  It will work better than any GUI application
[16:46] <abuayyoub> LjL,  no i haven't I will do that though.
[16:46] <Exilant> azlon: there is a difference between the local interface 192.168.1.1 of the router thingy, and it's world interface with the public ip
[16:46] <mistafeesh> Hi, just installed ubuntu server over a broken install of the same, and grub won't load - I just get a flashing line. I can see that this is a previously mentioned issue - grub gets confused if there was already a grub on the mbr. any ideas?
[16:46] <azlon_> Exilant, it is forwarding to 192.168.1.10:80
[16:46] <abuayyoub> LjL,  any idea what could be causing this overheating?
[16:46] <Exilant> azlon: there is a difference between the local interface 192.168.1.1 of the router thingy, and it's world interface with the public ip
[16:46] <pepePlu> dajhorn you know full description of the os, i don't need that i just want it simple text, and also i want to remove the recovery stuff and memtest and stuff i would never use
[16:47] <LjL> abuayyoub: no real idea.
[16:47] <azlon_> Exilant, can you nmap my ip for me? 78.154.204.181
[16:47] <ImaLamer> pepePlu: grub2?
[16:47] <pepePlu> yes
[16:47] <abuayyoub> LjL, it gets too hot to touch at times. could software cause this? or is it time to throw it on ebay> lol
[16:47] <nanderv> @Imalamer: I have the same question for grub1
[16:47] <pepePlu> ImaLamer yes
[16:48] <switch10_> abuayyoub: sounds like its time to clean the dust out of it...
[16:48] <Exilant> azlon_: seems to work fine
[16:48] <mistafeesh> can I install grub2 from server install CD (32 bit)
[16:48] <LjL> abuayyoub: well, "too hot to touch" may be OK, depending on which processor you have. for some, it's quite normal to get hot. it could be due to software, but software should never make it become *too* hot.
[16:48] <keith4> azlon: there's a site up at that IP
[16:48] <Exilant> azlon_: i see a hello world from wordpress
[16:48] <ImaLamer> pepePlu, did https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 help?
[16:48] <Exilant> azlon_: pictures are broken though
[16:48] <switch10_> abuayyoub: is your system shutting down due to the heat?
[16:49] <keith4> azlon: although, it's misconfigured... because all of the content is pointing at localhost
[16:49] <azlon> Exilant, ok, that is weird... how can you see it but i cant?
[16:49] <abuayyoub> LjL,  its AMD x64 newer Sony Vaio 2010
[16:49] <azlon> keith4, that makes sense because apache couldnt find my domain so it assumed localhost
[16:49] <keith4> probably a wordpress setting, no?
[16:49] <LjL> abuayyoub: well i think AMD processors can get quite hot, compared to Intel. although i'm not really sure, because i use very old processors
[16:49] <abuayyoub> switch10_,  it boggs down so i cant even open a terminal. So I end up just doing a hard reboot
[16:49] <pepePlu> ImaLamer it has a lot of stuff, there's no direct answer to my question
[16:49] <keith4> azlon: you won't be able to access your external IP from the internal network. that's just a limitation of NAT
[16:49] <ImaLamer> abuayyoub, if the heat is sudden you may be headed for an RMA... make sure you have nothing running constantly
[16:50] <azlon> keith4, nah, apache... i can fix that stuff later... i just want to be able to access the site here
[16:50] <azlon> keith4, hrm... so how can i test? if i change all of my localhost references to my external address... wont they be broken here?
[16:51] <keith4> azlon: yes. and that is why you should use relative URLs
[16:51] <switch10_> abuayyoub: install hardinfo and run the cpu benchmarks.  also check the CPU temp sensors.
[16:51] <Exilant> azlon: well, the best way would be relative links
[16:51] <ImaLamer> pepePlu, i'm looking
[16:51] <^DEMOSS^> i install "mysql server" then "mysql-server-5.1" then "mysql-server-CORE 5.1" \\ can i have problem if install "mysql server" & "mysql-server-5.1" ??  can i remove core ? i  need this pkg ?
[16:51] <Exilant> azlon: wordpress is notoriously bad there, though
[16:51] <azlon> brb, let me call my buddy and see if he can access the page... not that i dont believe you or anything... i just couldnt access it at work
[16:51] <abuayyoub> switch10_,  ok hardinfo. I will do it now.
[16:52] <switch10_> abuayyoub: a freezeup during the benchmarking is normal.
[16:52] <pepePlu> ImaLamer i wanted to edit grub.cfg but it said that i can't because it will be updated automatically anway
[16:52] <switch10_> abuayyoub: just let it go..
[16:53] <abuayyoub> switch10_, I do work this computer hard. I download a ridicules amount of data, something like 2tb a month, lappy is 6 months old so 12 -14 TB in that time, running constantly so I suppose it possible its a hardware issue
[16:53] <ImaLamer> pepePlu, with grub 2 you don't want to do that
[16:53] <ImaLamer> pepePlu: try this ... sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[16:54] <pepePlu> ok thanx
[16:54] <ImaLamer> well i see that has less options than advertised
[16:54] <^DEMOSS^> i install "mysql server" then "mysql-server-5.1" then "mysql-server-CORE 5.1" \\ can i have problem if install "mysql server" & "mysql-server-5.1" ??  can i remove core ? i  need this pkg ?
[16:55] <switch10_> abuayyoub: it is possible, but unlikely.  If its running that often, I would bet it is caked with dust, which can cause all of the problems you have described.  I clean my laptop every 6 months.
[16:55] <Aven> hello
[16:55] <Pici> ^DEMOSS^: I don't understand what you are asking, can you rephrase?
[16:56] <kesroesweyth> fa7trt62
[16:56] <abuayyoub> switch10_,  crazy, I live in the desert too super dusty I bet your probibly right. ... can I ask how do you clean this sucker? just tear it apart? lol gonna break out my hammer lol
[16:56] <Jao_madn> Anyone knows about compression packge for ubuntu 10.04 with nice gui.
[16:56] <abuayyoub> switch10_, ok i got hardinfo
[16:57] <bellman> where is the "Installed Application" list that pcmanfm uses to show a list of applications that you can possibly open a file with?    gnome mplayer is in there.. I want to use mplayer nogui  instead
[16:57] <switch10_> abuayyoub: unscrew all of the back panels, hopefully you can get to the fan/heatsink, and blow it out with compressed air.
[16:59] <abuayyoub> cool cool, i think i will try that. You know, I also have had a problem with power managment. Ubuntu STILL dosent play well with sleep and hibernate for some reason ( had this problem since Daper Drake) i have several times closed the lid and thrown it in the bag only to find it 2 hours later like an oven
[16:59] <abuayyoub> I just hope that didn;t damage it
[17:00] <aeon-ltd> mw2 ftw
[17:00] <daniel> hey guys I get this error in nautilus when Im trying to access one of my drives  Unable to mount 150 gb filesystem authentication is required please help me out
[17:00] <aeon-ltd> daniel: encrypted partition?
[17:00] <paully> is the 150gb drive from a windows pc?
[17:00] <daniel> its not encrypted partition and its a drive from a windows pc
[17:00] <aeon-ltd> daniel: run nautilus as root it should work
[17:01] <pepePlu> ImaLamer startupmanager doesn't allow me to delete stuff, so i just edited /boot/grub/grub.cfg, i removed menuentry's manually and changed the text, wish me luck going to reboot
[17:01] <paully> was it from a W7 pc?
[17:01] <switch10_> abuayyoub: there is still some hardware that does not play nice with hibernate/suspend.  I would go into power management and change the settings so the system shuts down instead of going to standby.
[17:01] <daniel> yeah
[17:01] <daniel> but I got like 5 drives
[17:01] <daniel> I cant mount
[17:02] <paully> they all give you the same message?
[17:02] <daniel> strange when I running nautilus from root terminal I cant see the discs in the list :S
[17:03] <paully> are there files on there you need or do you just want it (them) as additional hdds for storage etc?
[17:03] <dbpatankar> daniel : your /etc/fstab may be having a problem
[17:03] <shoonya> is there any gnome/gtk based id3 tagger which supports adding lyrics to mp3/flac ?
[17:04] <daniel> I just want to have access paully to all my drivers also files of course
[17:05] <daniel> dbpatankar yeah its maybe true
[17:05] <dbpatankar> daniel : so why dont you look inti it?
[17:05] <daniel> my visudo doesnt work at all. I have putted my user in the file but when I run su and enter password its fails. :S
[17:06] <daniel> ok dbpatankar  ok I can do it tell me how just :)
[17:06] <aeon-ltd> daniel: pastebin your file
[17:06] <daniel> which file aeon-ltd?
[17:06] <pepePlu> ImaLamer it worked
[17:06] <dbpatankar> daniel : yes....... as aeon-ltd said.......pastebin the file
[17:06] <aeon-ltd> daniel: visudo sudoers
[17:06] <daniel> ok ok
[17:07] <rat> .join #lisp
[17:07] <rat> ./join #lisp
[17:07] <rat> periods--
[17:07] <dbpatankar> daniel : I was talking about /etc/fstab
[17:07] <daniel> here you go http://pastebin.com/Fcu7mUBD
[17:08] <daniel> haha sorry dbpatankar
[17:08] <daniel> 2 many ppl talking to me but will I paste that one too?.
[17:08] <dbpatankar> daniel : su will not work even if you add your name to sudoers file
[17:08] <daniel> http://pastebin.com/5ZQeeXYT
[17:08] <daniel> ok ok why ?.
[17:09] <mistafeesh> agh got kicked off using freenode website as no irc client on this computer. was asking about fixing grub on my new install of ubuntu server 32 bit. There was a previous install on the same disk and it's confused grub. I'm booting into rescue mode from CD now. Someone suggested grub2, but I don't know if I can install that from CD, and it can't get it onto network as my wifi adapter needs tweaking!
[17:09] <Pici> daniel: You should be using sudo, not su.
[17:09] <Pici> !sudo | daniel
[17:09] <dbpatankar> daniel : sudoers file is used to enable common users to use the command 'sudo' and not su
[17:10] <Shinydan> hi all
[17:10] <Unbuntu> yeh
[17:10] <daniel> ok ok thanx a lot for the explaination :) dbpatankar thanks.!
[17:10] <Unbuntu> so
[17:10] <daniel> I got it.
[17:10] <Unbuntu> cjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjccccccccccccccccjccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccC
[17:10] <gonzaloaf> hello, how can I change my location preferences (number, date and currency) without modifying my applications language settings? I want to keep my system in english but set my number, currency and date to spanish
[17:10] <Unbuntu> boss
[17:10] <Pici> Unbuntu: Please don't do that.
[17:11] <Shinydan> trying to install 32-bit 10.04 Server Ed. to a Packard Bell Celeron M machine. Keeps on cutting back to the BIOS screen - any thoughts?
[17:11] <bazhang> Unbuntu, please ask a support question
[17:11] <Unbuntu> boss do wat
[17:11] <Unbuntu> boss why is roblox not on roblox
[17:11] <daniel> paully heres my discs --> http://pastebin.com/7UQ28TpW I wish I could mount em I could do it before with disk-manager but its not available I running 2.6.32-22-generic-pae
[17:11] <dbpatankar> daniel : do you have 2 hdd? or you installed from pendrive?
[17:11] <bazhang> Unbuntu, this is ubuntu support not chat
[17:11] <healer> hi everybody
[17:11] <mguy> Shinydan: it's rebooting?
[17:12] <Shinydan> mguy: every time.
[17:12] <Unbuntu> ubuntu fart
[17:12] <Unbuntu> ps
[17:12] <healer> why MC does not open some files(.avi for exaple)? i'm using ubuntu lucid
[17:12] <Unbuntu> piss ppl me serve
[17:12] <Unbuntu> r
[17:12] <healer> i mean i hit enter, and nothing happens
[17:12] <trupheenix> i need help. i'm thinking of installing Ubuntu Lucid on a brand new Vaio E-series laptop. what would you guys advise?
[17:12] <infoG> hi. i want to dual boot ubuntu and windows. i already have windows installed and i have a partition for ubuntu at the beginning of the drive. is there anything special i need to do or know?
[17:13] <mguy> Shinydan: I would try using a different media (CD, DVD, USB, whatever you aren't using now)
[17:13] <daniel> dbpatankar I using dual boot.
[17:13] <ImaLamer> trupheenix google: "lucid lynx" and the model number, or start with the live cd
[17:13] <thalib> is there a way to listen local fm channels straemed vib websites
[17:13] <ImaLamer> trupheenix, you may find users already reporting what works/doesn't
[17:13] <dbpatankar> daniel : pastebin output of sudo blkid
[17:13] <Takeasy> i'm using xubuntu, any good web design software recommended?
[17:14] <mistafeesh> trying to fix grub from server installer CD - should I execute a shell in the installer environment or my HDD?
[17:14] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: that's the problem... i can't seem to figure out what to do. especially with windoz 7 installed it's all so weird!
[17:14] <ImaLamer> trupheenix, you have win7 on the entire drive?
[17:14] <mguy> mistafeesh: What do you mean fix grub?
[17:14] <daniel> ok here you go --> http://pastebin.com/1tYTGDqP
[17:14] <ImaLamer> bc you have two options
[17:14] <Takeasy> i'm using xubuntu, any good web design software recommended?
[17:15] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: no idea! trying to figure that out
[17:15] <Shinydan> mguy: It won't boot from a USB stick. I get as far as the "Install Ubuntu Server" and that's it
[17:15] <ImaLamer> Takeasy, try sourceforge
[17:15] <cntrational> dance, soterios johnson, dance!
[17:15] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: i'm not sure how to make a recovery copy of Windoz 7 though
[17:15] <Jao_madn> Hey what file shoult i edit inorder to automount my one partition drive that does not detected by ubuntu 10.04
[17:15] <ImaLamer> trupheenix, you can either install inside windows (wubi) or shrink the volume
[17:15] <ImaLamer> Jao_madn, fstab
[17:16] <brontosaurusrex> any clues on how would one connect to eduroam?
[17:16] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: install inside windows no go
[17:16] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: shrink? but how?
[17:16] <ImaLamer> trupheenix, why no go?
[17:16] <mistafeesh> mguy, I installed ubuntu server over a broken copy of the same, and grub isn't booting - just sits there on a flashy line right at boot. I read that this is a know issue, but all that page suggested was installing gag. Not much help as I have no working OS on that computer
[17:16] <thalib> is there a way to listen local fm channels straemed vib websites
[17:16] <ImaLamer> trupheenix, you can shrink the volume in disk management - but defrag first (google defraggler)
[17:17] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: Defrag and shrink ok
[17:17] <ImaLamer> thalib, you need to find the website of the station
[17:17] <Jao_madn> is ubuntu 10.04 is limited only to detect 2 partition drive
[17:17] <ImaLamer> trupheenix, defrag first so you can get the best out of the shrink
[17:17] <dbpatankar> daniel : there are 6 ntfs partition. all are not mounting or only 5 of them?
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> thalib:  and it depends on how its streaming.  Theres a Neat adobe 'air' app called antanna (antenna?) that lets you tune in 1000's of sttions
[17:18] <thalib> the website name is like this
[17:18] <thalib> http://sunfmlive.mv/beta/images/listen-live.jpg
[17:18] <daniel> yeah 5 are available to mount 1 of em them is just system 100 mb disk to windows 7
[17:18] <thalib> sorry [ mms://sunfmlive.serverroom.us/sunfmlive ]
[17:18] <ImaLamer> trupheenix, and i'd close EVERYTHING, disconnect from the net (unplug the cable) and then your antivirus
[17:18] <rayvtirx> hi people how do i change the time in ubuntu server that it takes for the monitor to turn off
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> thalib:  mss is easy. :) vlc/mplayer/others can do that
[17:18] <ImaLamer> the defrag will go faster and be better
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> thalib:  vlc mss://whatever
[17:19] <dbpatankar> daniel : ok we will mount all of them.
[17:19] <daniel> cool.
[17:20] <tenochslb> guys, i need help. My sound is gone. It is not detecting any sound card. It used to work before
[17:20] <ImaLamer> trupheenix, btw, the windows backup can make an image, etc, works well from what i've *heard*
[17:20] <daniel> is it available to make them to automount  (when I restart the pc) I running ubuntu base system with fluxbox also gdm
[17:20] <dbpatankar> daniel : create 6 dirs named sda1 sda2 sdb1 sdc1 sdd1 sde1 in /media
[17:20] <daniel> ok ok
[17:21] <Ascavasaion> I just installed firestarter through synaptic and when I try to start it I am informed that my kernel does not support IPTables... huh?
[17:21] <daniel> ok done --> root@Home:/media# dir
[17:21] <daniel> floppy	floppy0  sda1  sda2  sdb1  sdc1  sdd1  sdel1
[17:21] <daniel> root@Home:/media#
[17:22] <daniel> ops the last one is wrong lol I fix it
[17:22] <MKM> hi.., i accidently deleted the sound icon from from my panel..., i want to get it back..., any idea how do i do it....??
[17:22] <erUSUL> MKM: add the indicator miniapp to the panel ?
[17:22] <Cyber_Akuma> Can I use a ubuntu livecd to scan a windows system for viruses? If so, what programs are there to do this?
[17:22] <Dr_Willis> Cyber_Akuma:  yes. and 'clamav'
[17:23] <thalib> dr_willis [ vlc mss://sunfmlive.serverroom.us/sunfmlive
[17:23] <thalib> VLC media player 1.0.6 Goldeneye
[17:23] <thalib> [0x8601148] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
[17:23] <thalib> [0x89007d0] main access error: no access module matched "mss"
[17:23] <thalib> [0x89057d0] main input error: open of `mss://sunfmlive.serverroom.us/sunfmlive' failed: no access module matched "mss"
[17:23] <FloodBot2> thalib: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:23] <dbpatankar> daniel : now sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[17:23] <rayvtirx_> i mean can i adjust the time it takes for ubuntu server to put the monitor on standby
[17:23] <MKM> erUSUL : ??
[17:23] <daniel> oki done.
[17:23] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: ok OK
[17:23] <Cyber_Akuma> Dr_Willis: I thought clamav scanned for linux viruses?
[17:23] <Dr_Willis> thalib:  this worjked for me ->  mms://sunfmlive.serverroom.us/sunfmlive
[17:23] <dbpatankar> daniel : fstab file open?
[17:23] <Dr_Willis> Cyber_Akuma:  I imagine it can do both cant it. :) given how few linxu viruses are out there
[17:23] <daniel> of course :)
[17:23] <Dr_Willis> Cyber_Akuma:  i even use clamav on windows.
[17:24] <dbpatankar> ok ........ now I will pastebin some lines . just add those lines at the end of the file
[17:24] <Cyber_Akuma> Heh, but are there any others? Normally when I do a manual scan I use more than one scanner
[17:24] <zezu> I've tried everything I can think of w/ alsa-base.conf  on lucid  for  ICH10 audio (ALC1200)  I don't even see a codec for ALC1200 ... anyone know how to get it working??  It pops the speakers in the kernel right before GDM but no audio from mplayer or amarok and its not muted in alsamixer
[17:24] <Cyber_Akuma> I want to make sure the computer is safe before I put it on my network
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> Cyber_Akuma:  theres a few others for linnx i think avg has a linux version.. but im not sure.. I know theres at least ONE other one..
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> Cyber_Akuma:  you are worried about Linux viruses? or windows viruses?
[17:25] <Cyber_Akuma> windows
[17:25] <MKM> erUSUL : thnx i got it...:-)
[17:25] <Cyber_Akuma> Are they in the reposotories or am I going to have to install them manually? the other scanners
[17:25] <thalib> did u get the sound
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> Cyber_Akuma:  i recall one of the av companies had their own live cd system.. but i cant recall which one
[17:25] <thalib> mine says no data received
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> thalib:  it took a little time to get started.. but it worked.
[17:26] <thalib> thanks
[17:26] <thalib> got it
[17:26] <Cyber_Akuma> ok, thanks
[17:26] <thalib> love it
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> Cyber_Akuma:  not all are in the repos.
[17:28] <daniel> how is it going dbpatankar?.
[17:28] <dbpatankar> daniel : wait
[17:29] <KnitGal> hi all . . . I'm trying to get Ubuntu 10.04, 64bit working on my Laptop - Toshiba Satellite C655.  Boot into GRUB, select 1st option - ubuntu w/linux 2.6.32-21 generic. I then hit 'e', enter acpi=off.  press Ctrl-X to boot up. And I still get a list of strange strings, ending with "child_rip+0x0/0x20" and then a blinking cursor at the end.  I can't type anything in and have to hit the Power button to restart the PC.  how can I g
[17:29] <dbpatankar> daniel : http://pastebin.com/AjaRfpt5
[17:30] <daniel> ok I just add the text under ? :)
[17:30] <dbpatankar> daniel : copy all these lines to the end of /etc/fstab
[17:30] <daniel> done
[17:30] <dbpatankar> daniel yes
[17:30] <daniel> is it just to run sudo mount -a now?
[17:30] <dbpatankar> daniel : now save the file
[17:30] <daniel> ok
[17:30] <daniel> done
[17:30] <dbpatankar> yes
[17:31] <daniel> it says: mount: mount point  does not exist
[17:31] <daniel> mount: mount point  does not exist
[17:31] <daniel> mount: mount point  does not exist
[17:31] <daniel> mount: mount point  does not exist
[17:31] <daniel> mount: mount point  does not exist
[17:31] <FloodBot2> daniel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:32] <daniel> strange dbpatankar it working but in the terminal it says: it doesnt exists :S
[17:32] <dbpatankar> daniel : can you see those drives?
[17:32] <daniel> yeah I can also get access to em
[17:33] <dbpatankar> daniel : but you got errors on mounting?
[17:33] <daniel> yeah but I can go in the folders etc lol
[17:34] <dbpatankar> daniel : ok.... just reboot and see if there are any errors ? all drives should mount automatically
[17:34] <daniel> ok I be back
[17:34] <dbpatankar> sure
[17:34] <daniel> thanks a lot master.!
[17:34] <Incarnation> hey guys i installed 10.04 and installed vuze on it, im trying to run vuze but it wont run
[17:35] <daniel> I really appreciate for the help.!
[17:35] <blackstar_> hello, i need help on lucid to reconfigure xserver
[17:35] <Incarnation> i launch the application via the menu but i see nothing
[17:35] <xangua> Incarnation: i believe vuze needs java installed, do you have it¿¿
[17:36] <Incarnation> im sure i do, i mean i ran it fine before
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> Incarnation:  it might also need 'sun java' not the other java.
[17:36] <Incarnation> maybe i should try restarting my pc?
[17:36] <blackstar_> hello, i need help on lucid to reconfigure xserver, i cant finde the xorg.cfg
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> Incarnation:  run it from terminal. look for error messatges
[17:36] <Incarnation> ok
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> blackstar_:  what are you trying to recomnfigure in it?
[17:36] <blackstar_> hello, i need help on lucid to reconfigure xserver, i cant findethe xorg.cfg
[17:36] <ImaLamer> Incarnation, try from the command line: javaws then the app name
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> !patience | blackstar_
[17:36] <blackstar_> Dr_Willis
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> blackstar_:
[17:36] <ImaLamer> Incarnation, check for errors :)
[17:37] <narcos> *kerplop*
[17:37] <blackstar_> my xserver for synaptics
[17:37] <Incarnation> incarnation@incarnation-desktop:~$ javaws vuze
[17:37] <Incarnation> netx: Invalid jnlp file vuze
[17:37] <ridin> Incarnation, did you do sudo apt-get install vuze?
[17:37] <BusterBFMC> I have a question about Pulse Audio / I was able through the help of someone here to configure my headset for Skype using a configuration that was not Pulse Audio's stock config. I have switched headsets and my system does not recognize them. Any ideas what that terminal command was?
[17:37] <ridin> Incarnation, try just putting in vuze
[17:38] <Incarnation> okay
[17:38] <Incarnation> that gave me a lot of lines
[17:38] <Incarnation> let me pastebin it
[17:38] <Dr_Willis> blackstar_:   a lot of the synaptic config tweaking is no longer done in the xorg.conf  but im not sure where its at now in 10.04 - You may want to check the forums. It can vary depending on your exact release/version of ubuntu
[17:38] <Incarnation> http://pastebin.com/LtH3GeV3
[17:39] <blackstar_> Dr_Willis thanks
[17:39] <ImaLamer> BusterBFMC, do you see the headset in the sound manager?
 no I do not
[17:39] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: i have a question. supposing i get rid of Windows 7 without taking a backup, can I ask Sony to restore it for me later?
[17:39] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: assuming I have a licence?
[17:39] <azlon__> Exilant, ok, so now my apache server is running the way i want. i have 2 sites i want to show. one is in /var/www and one is in /usr/share/zoneminder. how can i make it so when i type localhost/ it goes to /var/www and when i do localhost/zm it goes to /usr/share/zoneminder?
[17:39] <Dr_Willis> trupheenix:  sony will gladly sell you some restore disks i imagine.
 it is a pair of cheap Cyber Acoustic until I can get a new pair
[17:40] <trupheenix> Dr_Willis: w00t!
[17:40] <ImaLamer> BusterBFMC, then it may not be detected first and you are beyond my help :(
[17:40] <ImaLamer> just a line-in or usb?
[17:40] <ridin> incarnation: reading in line 34 & 35 vuze is already running, do pkill vuze and then type vuze again
 thank you
[17:40] <Dr_Willis> trupheenix:  nice of them to take up part of your HD space for a 'recovery partition' then charge you for real media. :)
[17:41] <ImaLamer> trupheenix, it may be best to do an image
[17:41] <trupheenix> Dr_Willis: ultimate nonsense. why don't they just provide the media?
[17:41] <ImaLamer> trupheenix, what is your wubi install problem?
[17:41] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: CD shops are closed
[17:41] <Dr_Willis> trupheenix:   bottom line.. $$$$$ its all about them saving $3 per pc..
[17:41] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: what is Wubi do?
[17:41] <Incarnation> ridin: pkill vuze doesnt seem to do anything i still get the same errors
[17:41] <narcos> Hello all! Anyone every do any Android development on Ubuntu? I've downloaded and installed the SDK, and have created a VM, but when I start the VM it doesn't seem to get anywhere past this screen -> http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8230/screenshot5h.png
[17:41] <trupheenix> Dr_Willis: that's so pathetic man. but will they reinstall windows if i ask them to?
[17:42] <ImaLamer> trupheenix, wubi will put ubuntu in a file on the NTFS drive, less risky, etc
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> trupheenix:  Personally on a laptop these days. I buy a 2nd hd. and image the original HD to It and use that one.. and keep the other 'safe' faster and easier then doinb their backup 'method' to optical disks.
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> trupheenix:  they will sell you some cd/dvd/s i imagine..
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> trupheenix:  and say here you go.. thany you for your money.
[17:42] <ridin> incamation: check in the system monitor under resources, see if something related to vuze is there
[17:42] <wpbrown> ubuntu 64 with latest Zimbra install.  Has been working fine for several days now I get this error and postfix wont start up.
[17:42] <ImaLamer> trupheenix, yeah don't backup to optical: bad medium and costly, etc
[17:42] <Takeasy> i'm using xubuntu, any good web design software recommended?
[17:42] <wpbrown> [ 1230.565890] master[24106]: segfault at 0 rip 7f76f23bc95c rsp 7fff2be76550 error 6
[17:43] <revarr> hello?
[17:43] <revarr> ohh sorry
[17:43] <wpbrown> any suggestions?
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> trupheenix:  theres proberly some restore partition on the HD allready. In theory you can just 'image' that.
[17:43] <erUSUL> !html | Takeasy
[17:43] <skydrome> HTML: Unable to validate | Takeasy: You need to supply a URI scheme (e.g http)
[17:43] <Incarnation> ok ridin ill try that
[17:43] <ImaLamer> Dr_Willis / trupheenix ... though these restore partition are tricky
[17:43] <trupheenix> Dr_Willis: man this is so bleddy complex. i am way happier using my Dell N series laptop without all this crap in it.
[17:43] <ImaLamer> Takeasy, try netbeans :)
[17:44] <ImaLamer> trupheenix, see those restore partitions are setup in a way that if the drive changes sometimes it won't ever work
[17:44] <Incarnation> no, nothing related to vuze listed under the processes window
[17:44] <Incarnation> im going to try rebooting
[17:44] <TeslaTony> narcos, try #android. If they can't get you going, nobody can
[17:44] <revarr> I have an Acer Aspire 5740 and I've installed Ubuntu 10.04.  I cannot change the brightness.  Any suggestions?
[17:44] <clayg> I have 4 or 5 .iso's that are in a directory, when I view them through gnome one is not present, ctrl-h doesn't show it either but in the terminal I can see it an it's green what does this mean? I'm trying to mount it with gmount but it can't find it
[17:44] <revarr> hope that is the correct protocol for questions
[17:44] <narcos> OK thanks TeslaTony
[17:44] <ImaLamer> trupheenix, i tried to divide a partition and broke one on an HP laptop
[17:45] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: sad. but if i give it in to Sony service they can restore it for me right?
[17:45] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: ideally I would like to be able to dual boot.
[17:45] <ImaLamer> trupheenix, i'd give wubi a go first
[17:46] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: eeks. what will Wubi do?
[17:46] <ImaLamer> trupheenix, they may frown upon that dual boot idea when it comes time to get service
[17:46] <trupheenix> ImaLamer:  i will have to boot into windows
[17:46] <ImaLamer> trupheenix, pop the cd while in windows, and run the wubi.exe
[17:46] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: why should they frown? it's my laptop. i can run what i please
[17:46] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: i have Usb
[17:46] <thune3> clayg: in terminal look at "ls -ld" in that dir and check owner and permissions for that file.
[17:46] <ImaLamer> or you can download wubi.exe without a disc
[17:46] <KnitGal> any suggestions as to my issue?
[17:46] <BusterBFMC>  I have a question about Pulse Audio / I was able through the help of someone here to configure my headset for Skype using a configuration that was not Pulse Audio's stock config. I have switched headsets and my system does not recognize them. Any ideas what that terminal command was?
[17:46] <ImaLamer> trupheenix, agreed - but you never know (again, to save a buck)
[17:47] <helpme> how do i turn off kms in general, andnotjust on a driver-specific level?
[17:47] <narcos> Erm, probably a stupid question, but when I try join #android I get '#android Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services', even though I've just registered my nick- 'NickServ(NickServ@services.)- You are already logged in as narcos.'
[17:47] <ImaLamer> BusterBFMC, did you say they were USB or just a line-in?
[17:47] <oCean_> narcos: ask in #freenode please
[17:47] <ImaLamer> narcos, try /nickserv identify
 USB
[17:47] <narcos> oCean_: OK sorry, thanks
[17:47] <ImaLamer> BusterBFMC, but you know they work otherwise
[17:48] <solifugus> What do I need to install to get nvidia drivers working?  (I don't have gui working, the oss driver doesn't work with nvidia nvs 295)
[17:48] <BusterBFMC> ImaLamer yes I took tham off another system
[17:48] <narcos> ImaLamer: Yeah I did that already, and it tells me I'm logged in. Weird. I'll ask in #freenode
[17:48] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: bad man. they ask us to buy a computer and tell us what we can run on it. pathetic
[17:49] <ImaLamer> BusterBFMC, can you give me the model/make again?
[17:49] <ImaLamer> trupheenix, see: iphone :)
[17:49] <Incarnation> Okay, rebooting didn't do anything - still the same problem. I'm going to try removing Vuze & reinstalling it
[17:49] <ImaLamer> trupheenix, you are already on the right path
[17:49] <ImaLamer> Incarnation, do you have the open or official java
[17:49] <jussi> !html test
[17:49] <skydrome> HTML: Not valid - Errors: 72, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.test.com
[17:50] <Incarnation> I'm not sure, ImaLamer
[17:50] <solifugus> nvidia-glx-new doesn't exist... what do I need to install?
[17:50] <ImaLamer> Incarnation, if you didn't install anything then the open set
[17:50] <Incarnation> sweet
[17:50] <ImaLamer> Incarnation, i had issues with those on 10, maybe get the official java setup
[17:50] <Incarnation> reinstall worked
[17:50] <ImaLamer> happy day!
[17:51] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: I dislike iPhone. i hope Nokia comes out with a kickass phone with MeeGo running on it.
[17:51] <BusterBFMC> ImaLamer, Cyber Acoustics AC-850
[17:51] <Incarnation> yay~
[17:51] <BusterBFMC> Internet Communication
[17:51] <BusterBFMC> USB Stereo Headset and Boom Mic
[17:51] <phuzion> How long should e2fsck take to run on a 1.5TB drive?
[17:52] <ImaLamer> BusterBFMC, are you impeteperry on the forums?
[17:52] <ImaLamer> phuzion, need moar info... sataII, etc
[17:52] <rayvtirx_> i had a look at the  "BLANK_TIME" setting in /etc/console-tools/config. but that is set to 30 mins , mine goes lank after 5 or so
[17:52] <phuzion> sataII, moderately powerful box, single drive.
 ? I am sorry ?
[17:53] <phuzion> ImaLamer, ^^
[17:53] <blouaap> i have hectic desktop lag all of a sudden and have no idea why. when i click and drag any window and shake it around i can feel/see the lag
[17:53] <ImaLamer> phuzion, i realize i can't answer this :( was hoping somone would jump in for me!
[17:53] <blouaap> any ideas on how to fix this
[17:53] <ImaLamer> BusterBFMC, look at this please: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-224797.html
 thanks :)
[17:54] <solifugus> nobody knows how to install nvidia drivers via command line?
[17:54] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: God these recovery tools are so LAME!
[17:55] <blouaap> solifugus, first ctrl+alt F1
 no that was not me
[17:55] <Leonard> solifugus: Are you using the nvidia binary, and if so does it have 'quiet' flags?
[17:56] <blouaap> then type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[17:56] <solifugus> blouaap: I chroot'd in from a gentoo livecd.
[17:56] <blouaap> then sh nvidia-blah-blah
[17:56] <Leonard> Anyone come across the 10.04 "Encountered an unrecoverable error" installation error?
[17:56] <mxe5> Just installed 10.4 on a computer next to this one - when doing 1st download & install of updates (191.5MB) Update Manager complained about not being able to get some updates - Update mgr. just sitting there with circle going around - Not sure what to do now - Won't restart, etc. Hate to just hold in the power button - Any Suggestions ? ?
[17:57] <solifugus> blouaap: nvidia-glx-new package doesn't exist.. I'm not sure what package to install..
[17:57] <solifugus> it's a quadro nvs 295
[17:57] <brandon> can anyone help me with audio on 10.04 on my 9,1 imac
[17:57] <blouaap> did u get the binary from nvidi.com ?
[17:57] <solifugus> nvidia-current?
[17:57] <blouaap> no
[17:57] <solifugus> the nouveau driver doesn't work
[17:57] <blouaap> :/
[17:57] <phuzion> mxe5, Do you have an ssh daemon installed on the box?  If so, ssh in, and run top, see if the box is actually hung or if it's just a process
[17:57] <ImaLamer> mxe5, try killing it and then fixing a broken dpkg database
[17:58] <mxe5> Shutdown or Restart not responding as well.
[17:58] <blouaap> i only use the bin from nvidia.com
[17:58] <revarr> after we ask a question how long should we wait to ask again?
[17:58] <robert__> hello, ive got some problems with my sis drivers on my Fujitsu siemens V5535. could someone help me with that? because i would like a diffrent resolution.
[17:58] <solifugus> blouaap: ok.. i will links to nvidia.com
[17:58] <ImaLamer> revarr, what's the question?
[17:59] <mxe5> phuzion: Where do I check for the ssh ?
[17:59] <phuzion> mxe5, did you ever run "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" on the box that's locked up?
[17:59] <revarr> I have an Acer Aspire 5740 with an i3 processor.  I installed Ubuntu 10.04 and everything fine but I cannot change the brightness
[18:00] <revarr> what are some steps so I can create a effectient way to maipulate it
[18:00] <brandon> im having troubles with audio on 10.04 on my imac 9,1 any help would be appreciated
[18:00] <mxe5> phuzion: No - just did a install from latest 10.4 cd.
[18:01] <phuzion> mxe5, then you don't have ssh server installed then, that's ok.  Is the system responsive at all to anything?
[18:01] <revarr> sorry Ubuntu 10.4
[18:01] <ImaLamer> revarr, function + left right arrows do nothing?
[18:01] <phuzion> mxe5, does your mouse move, does anything work whatsoever?
[18:01] <blouaap> i have hectic desktop lag all of a sudden and have no idea why. when i click and drag any window and shake it around i can feel/see the lag
[18:01] <revarr> It shows the brightnesss image changing the brightness but there is no actual change
[18:01] <mxe5> phuzion: After intial install did a reboot and did updates like I have in the past - never had this problem before.
[18:01] <blouaap> any ideas on how to fix this?
[18:02] <revarr> the screen is at 100% at all times, which hurtfull to the eyes and my power consumption on batter
[18:02] <xangua> revarr: have you tried yor brightness keys ot to add the brightness applet to the panel¿¿
[18:02] <ImaLamer> revarr, i've seen that on an HP
[18:02] <revarr> I have both tried using the brightness applet
[18:02] <phuzion> mxe5, try this, it'll quit you out of any programs in your X session.  Ctrl+Alt+Backspace (Just like Ctrl+Alt+Del on windows)  It will restart Gnome for you.  Let me know if that works when you get back.
[18:02] <revarr> and my FN key combo
[18:02] <hareldvd> A friend installed Ubuntu on a Dell Studio 1558 laptop. He is unable to listen to audio data and probably this causes video clips to stutter as well. Any idea?
[18:02] <terrylm> Hi all, how to fix a currepted apt-* database?
[18:02] <ImaLamer> revarr, i see bugs and no solutions on google
[18:03] <phuzion> Er, you won't lose your chat session becase that's on another box, right mxe5?
[18:03] <revarr> so have I
[18:03] <slow-motion> hi
[18:03] <ImaLamer> terrylm, did you break an installation in progress?
[18:03] <revarr> just wanted to see if anyone my have discovered anything
[18:03] <mxe5> phuzion: Yea -I just tried clicking on the Apps/Menu to go to Terminal - But now nothing on the screen but the update manger.
[18:03] <terrylm> yes
[18:03] <terrylm> reather, it failed
[18:04] <ImaLamer> revarr, see that it works or doesn't - maybe it's a kernel option such as acpi, noacpi, etc
[18:04] <ImaLamer> revarr, i hate laptops :P
[18:04] <mxe5> phuzion: No - On another comp. right now - next to this problem child.
[18:04] <terrylm> Now when I try to open the pkg manager it says:
[18:04] <revarr> at least it is not a major bug
[18:04] <terrylm> E: The package taskcoach needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[18:04] <terrylm> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[18:04] <revarr> I like em
[18:04] <phuzion> mxe5, try control+alt+backspace on the problem box
[18:04] <revarr> how do I check these kernel options?
[18:04] <mxe5> phuzion: ok
[18:04] <revarr> sorry I am a Linux neophyte
[18:05] <revarr> that and I don't want to kill 3 more hours on google
[18:05] <ImaLamer> revarr, you need to interrupt grub, give them there
[18:05] <mxe5> phuzion: That's a no go....
[18:05] <Andy2113> hey everyone, I'm having a problem with my iPod (mini. First generation). I installed gtkpod and am using rhythmbox. Yesterday, the iPod and all of it's music was being recognized by rhythmbox, and this morning the same music sounded all choppy and broken. I closed rhythmbox, and restarted my pc (unmounted the volume as well) and after the reboot, no music shows up on my ipod on rhythmbox, or anywhere else, though the iPod DOES get d
[18:05] <solifugus> I hope by IA65, nvidia means x86-64 and not Itanic..
[18:05] <ImaLamer> one sec terrylm
[18:05] <mxe5> phuzion: Nothing happens.
[18:05] <brandon> solifugus, i think it means itanic
[18:05] <phuzion> mxe5, ok, gimme a second, I'll try to figure something out
[18:05] <ImaLamer> revarr, google this first: kernel options + grub
[18:06] <terrylm> ok
[18:06] <brandon> any mac guys in here?
[18:06] <phuzion> brandon, if you want mac support, check out #mac
[18:06] <ImaLamer> revarr, or it's as easy as getting APM installed, but idk sorry
[18:06] <brandon> phuzion, well its more ubuntu on mac
[18:07] <brandon> im having audio issues :P
[18:07] <phuzion> Fire away then
[18:07] <ImaLamer> revarr, if it is a bug, it may not be fixed until a patch is in place - maybe bookmark the bugtrackers
[18:07] <brandon> well ive got a imac 9,1
[18:07] <ImaLamer> terrylm, can you msg me that error again?
[18:08] <brandon> and im having the notorious issue of not being able to get audio working right unless i use the lenovo-sky option in alsa-base.conf
[18:08] <terrylm> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[18:08] <brandon> however then the audio is extremely tinny.
[18:08] <Andy2113>  I'm having a problem with my iPod (mini. First generation). I installed gtkpod and am using rhythmbox. Yesterday, the iPod and all of it's music was being recognized by rhythmbox, and this morning the same music sounded all choppy and broken. I closed rhythmbox, and restarted my pc (unmounted the volume as well) and after the reboot, no music shows up on my ipod on rhythmbox, or anywhere else, though the iPod DOES get detected. Anyo
[18:08] <revarr> Imalamer no problem, thanks for trying
[18:08] <philsf> hi. when I turn my laptop on, my bluetooth applet always starts turned on, it doesn't remember when I turn it off. how can I make it honor my choice?
[18:09] <mxe5> phuzion: It's pretty much hung now - When I tried the 1st one CTRL+ALT+Backspace nothing - THen tried CTRL+AT+Del and got error (Couldn't execute command: gnome-session-save--shutdown--dialog Verify that this is a valid command.
[18:09] <ImaLamer> terrylm, try apt-get remove of the offending package first
[18:09] <revarr> alright I'll work from there
[18:09] <revarr> thanks
[18:09] <phuzion> mxe5, power cycle the box, let it run fsck if it wants on boot
[18:10] <brandon> phuzion, any thoughts?
[18:10] <ImaLamer> btw, i came here to ask a question too :P
[18:10] <abhi_nav> philsf, remove it from startup aps. so it wll not strt automatically then you can start it when you want it
[18:10] <phuzion> brandon, no experience with ubuntu on a mac, honestly.
[18:10] <ImaLamer> anyone use vpnc? should i be losing access to ports (such as IRC) once connected?
[18:10] <brandon> hmm. any idea if anyone else in here might have a clue
[18:11] <mxe5> phuzion: Yea - It's rebooting now - It's a we'll see mode now - thx
[18:11] <brandon> because ive been desperatley looking to get this working
[18:11] <phuzion> brandon, there's 1340 people in here.  If someone knows, they'll chip in and help you out.
[18:11] <philsf> abhi_nav, but that's overkill. I just want it to honor my choice. is there no way of doing this?
[18:11] <BlaDe^> For some reason im getting resource unavailable that it can't get a lock when trying to download or activate new drivers
[18:11] <brandon> okie doke phuzion
[18:11] <BlaDe^> but I don't have anything open except geany, firefox, terminal and xchat
[18:11] <abhi_nav> philsf, then check its wiki or help
[18:11] <BlaDe^> how can I find out what's causing it
[18:11] <ImaLamer> terrylm, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/e-internal-error-opening-cache-1-please-report-577973/
[18:12] <terrylm> ImaLamer, thanks.
[18:12] <solifugus> I --think-- the way to install nvidia is apt-get install nvidia-current..  but I also downloaded the nvidia driver from nvidia.com (problem is, it says its for redhat)
[18:13] <Andy2113>  I'm having a problem with my iPod (mini. First generation). I installed gtkpod and am using rhythmbox. Yesterday, the iPod and all of it's music was being recognized by rhythmbox, and this morning the same music sounded all choppy and broken. I closed rhythmbox, and restarted my pc (unmounted the volume as well) and after the reboot, no music shows up on my ipod on rhythmbox, or anywhere else, though the iPod DOES get detected. Anyo
[18:13] <Andy2113> anyone..?
[18:13] <louis11> Is there anyway to get JavascriptCore on ubuntu?
[18:13] <ubuntu_> hi
[18:13] <dizz> lo
[18:13] <sebersole> i use konversation in ubuntu and run into problems with my sound cutting out after some time.  It only effects kde apps.  it goes away after reboot, for some time until it happens again.  the complaint is about phonon
[18:13] <sebersole> i had this issue before and ended up having to uninstall something, but i cannot remember what (this came back after i accepted a prompted "upgrade"; boy never doing that again)
[18:14] <sebersole> anyone have ideas?
[18:14] <jlebar> What replaced the linux-image-debug package?
[18:14] <erUSUL> louis11: what is JavascriptCore ?
[18:15] <ubuntu_> hi
[18:15] <LjL> sebersole: have you tried asking in #kubuntu? that channel is specifically about KDE issues
[18:15] <mxe5> phuzion: Well so far everything looks good at this point - Should I check my repo's source to see if it's trying to get updates from correct place - Just opened Update Mgr. and say's it needs another 71.7MB's ??
[18:15] <PerryArmstrong> hey can anyone tell me how i can enable voice calls....the mike is unable 2 take my speech on messengers.... it works fine in windows....but in ubuntu i am not able to use it...I checked the sound preferences and sound input is unmute.....can anyone help
[18:15] <sebsebseb> Hi
[18:15] <abhi_nav> !hi | ubuntu_
[18:16] <mxe5> phuzion: Goes on the internet fine - I open FFox
[18:16] <ImaLamer> PerryArmstrong, is it set to where the mic is?
[18:16] <sebersole> LjL: even though i use ubuntu?
[18:16] <phuzion> mxe5, it's possible that it didn't get all of the packages before crashing
[18:16] <airgrace> hey fellas just got a quick question, are there any good guides to learn the CLI?
[18:16] <PerryArmstrong> ImaLamer, ya
[18:16] <erUSUL> !cli | airgrace
[18:16] <airgrace> i've been unable to find any good ones.
[18:16] <sebsebseb> !terminal | airgrace
[18:16] <LjL> sebersole: well, be sure to specify that, but since it only affects KDE apps, it's worth a shot to try asking there too.
[18:16] <sebsebseb> airgrace: basic commands in the manual
[18:16] <sebersole> i did :)
[18:16] <sebsebseb> !manual | airgrace
[18:16] <sebersole> ok, will ask there too
[18:17] <sebsebseb> airgrace: theres also a Ubuntu Pocket Guide you can download
[18:17] <airgrace> erusl sebsebseb cheers fellas :)!
[18:17] <Andy2113>  I'm having a problem with my iPod (mini. First generation). I installed gtkpod and am using rhythmbox. Yesterday, the iPod and all of it's music was being recognized by rhythmbox, and this morning the same music sounded all choppy and broken. I closed rhythmbox, and restarted my pc (unmounted the volume as well) and after the reboot, no music shows up on my ipod on rhythmbox, or anywhere else, though the iPod DOES get detected. Anyo
[18:17] <sebsebseb> airgrace: np
[18:17] <BlaDe^> FOr anyone that has the same problem I did sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock and it fixed my issue
[18:17] <mxe5> phuzion: I'll do the normal "Install Updates" button - should be ok - possibly just hung....
[18:18] <ImaLamer> BlaDe^, we just had the same question in a similar manner
[18:18] <phuzion> mxe5, have you considered running updates from the console?
[18:18] <phuzion> er, the shell rather
[18:19] <BlaDe^> ImaLamer,  i didn't see it- just tried to fix it myself instead (Or perhaps it was me who asked?)
[18:19] <tucemiux> anyone knows how to use the ATI open source drivers and where I can download them, I want to use them for ATI HD 3000
[18:19] <mxe5> phuzion: I forgot what the shell command is in Terminal for that.
[18:19] <ImaLamer> BlaDe^, no it was the same problem, different error
[18:19] <BlaDe^> ah right
[18:19] <ImaLamer> i think it's a common question
[18:19] <erUSUL> tucemiux: there should be already installed
[18:19] <BlaDe^> are you supposed to delete the file
[18:20] <ImaLamer> i have this problem a lot with my iphone + cydia (jailbroken phones use apt-get(
[18:20] <BlaDe^> yeah I use iphone+terminal/cydia too
[18:20] <BlaDe^> but haev never had that issue
[18:20] <erUSUL> !aptlock
[18:20] <ImaLamer> haha - i just fix them, not sure what is 'right'
[18:20] <BlaDe^> how do you fix them? the abve command ?
[18:20] <ImaLamer> there you go :)
[18:21] <ace__> tucemix I think if you go to System>Administration>Hardware Drivers it will install them for you
[18:21] <ImaLamer> I've had cydia crash during installs and had the same issue
[18:21] <BlaDe^> ah i see, I tend to avoid cydia
[18:21] <PerryArmstrong> ImaLamer, any solution
[18:21] <BlaDe^> I only have a 3G and unless I'm just browsing I just use apt-get
[18:21] <BlaDe^> since cydia is really slow
[18:21] <snake99> hi
[18:21] <snake99> hows evryone
[18:22] <ubuntu_> what is the command to revert back to a 'screen' session?
[18:22] <BlaDe^> screen -r ubuntu_
[18:22] <BlaDe^> ImaLamer,  do you use ifuse etc to mount your phone?
[18:22] <ImaLamer> BlaDe^, what terminal do you use?
[18:22] <Andy2113> ok... well does anyone know where I CAN get help for my issue, since nobody knows here..?
[18:22] <ubuntu_> BlaDe^: cheers, and how do i minimise the screen :)?
[18:22] <ImaLamer> Never tried anything like that
[18:22] <BlaDe^> it's just called "terminal"
[18:22] <BlaDe^> often I use ssh too
[18:22] <BlaDe^> screen -d is detach, ubuntu_
[18:23] <ImaLamer> BlaDe^, I ssh and have it mounted / bookmarked here in gnome
[18:23] <BlaDe^> what do you use to add music etc to your library?
[18:23] <ImaLamer> BlaDe^, honestly a windows box
[18:24] <BlaDe^> Ah, I hate the whole having to re-synch the entire phone
[18:24] <BlaDe^> if you use ipod-convenience and ifuse you can just drag/drop music in
[18:24] <BlaDe^> it gets the firewire-guid etc for the decryption of the itunes.db
[18:24] <ImaLamer> hrrmmm will have to try that
[18:25] <sebsebseb> Andy2113: you didn't get an update for your Ipod from Apple right?
[18:25] <sebsebseb> Andy2113: they may come out with one that brakes Ubuntu's support
[18:25] <ImaLamer> BlaDe^, so i can drop the songs in and they will show up in the libr?
[18:25] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: hey i got the recovery thing running. i'm restoring the system to factory. at the same time i'm reducing the space required for C drive. now you think I can install Ubuntu on it without getting rid of the recovery image?
[18:25] <BlaDe^> yah
[18:26] <badmox> hi im still on my solr problem "java -jar post.jar *.xml" "Unable to access jarfile post.jar" canged java from openjre to sun reinstalled solr but the error is the same
[18:26] <BlaDe^> Don't need to resynch etc
[18:26] <BlaDe^> look for gtkpod and ifuse
[18:26] <Andy2113> sebsebseb I haven't even upgraded my firmware in about 2+ years. My iPod doesn't hold charge, so I saw no reason to upgrade it. It was working yesterday as I said, but this morning it was all choppy
[18:26] <ImaLamer> BlaDe^, glad i ran into you :)
[18:26] <ImaLamer> trupheenix, so you will have some empty space there to create a new partition?
[18:27] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: yes i made C drive smaller and created an empty partition
[18:27] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: another partition basically
[18:27] <ImaLamer> trupheenix, then you are on the way :)
[18:27] <ImaLamer>  /cheer
[18:27] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: ok
[18:27] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: but now confusion. how do i get USB to boot?
[18:27] <PerryArmstrong> hey can anyone tell me how i can enable voice calls....the mike is unable 2 take my speech on messengers.... it works fine in windows....but in ubuntu i am not able to use it...I checked the sound preferences and sound input is unmute.....can anyone help
[18:27] <trupheenix> ImaLamer:I can't seem to make out
[18:27] <ImaLamer> go ahead and format the partition and label it
[18:28] <ImaLamer> just to be sure which you will later reformat (ya dig?)
[18:28] <Daekdroom> Somehow my sound icon on the notification bar disappeared and I want it back.. Lucid 10.04
[18:28] <ImaLamer> Daekdroom, do you still have sound?
[18:28] <xangua> Daekdroom: add the indicator applet to the panel
[18:28] <Daekdroom> xangua, what should I do after its already there?
[18:28] <BlaDe^> hehe ImaLamer  :) this page may help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[18:28] <ImaLamer> trupheenix, want to install from a usb stick?
[18:28] <BlaDe^> it has about iFuse, gtkpod and other alternatives
[18:29] <xangua> Daekdroom: nothing, it just appears
[18:29] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: yea USB live USB i have ready
[18:29] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: can't seem to find a boot menu or bios
[18:29] <ImaLamer> so you can pick the USB from the bios boot and it fails?
[18:29] <Daekdroom> xangua, what do I do if it doesn't?
[18:29] <Andy2113> so.. nothing? ):
[18:30] <xangua> Daekdroom: don't know, reinstall pulse¿¿ indicator¿¿
[18:30] <pipo65> buenas
[18:30] <notmorewindows> hi i have this problem with vuze:(Vuze:5503): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
[18:30] <ImaLamer> notmorewindows, sounds ominous!
[18:30] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: this is so lame. the system rebooted some 4 times before the recovery could complete.
[18:31] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: completely new architecture it seems.
[18:31] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: it's the same old XPEE this windoze 7
[18:31] <ImaLamer> lol
[18:32] <notmorewindows> im not ominous  imalamer
[18:33] <Bjartr> Hey, I recently moved to dual monitors (TwinView) and am using awn. awn appears in the correct position on my left (primary) monitor, but maximized windows now extend over awn, before they stopped above it. On my right screen maximized windows leave enough room for awn, but I don't really want to move awn to the second screen. The left monitor has a lower vertical resolution than the right.
[18:33] <PerryArmstrong> hey can anyone tell me how i can enable voice calls....the mike is unable 2 take my speech on messengers.... it works fine in windows....but in ubuntu i am not able to use it...I checked the sound preferences and sound input is unmute.....can anyone help
[18:33] <ImaLamer> notmorewindows, your error is
[18:33] <SuperMiguel> im using openbox, how do i change my resolution and set up dual monitor??
[18:34] <notmorewindows> i have a problem with vuze:(Vuze:5503): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
[18:34] <Daekdroom> notmorewindows, Well, that is the terminal output, but what causes that error message?
[18:34] <subsume> What should I set my hostname to?
[18:34] <notmorewindows> my error : i dont have the toolbar vuze for search with this error
[18:34] <Segaja> hi, which daemon do i have to (re)start in order to make ubuntu recognise my usb devices?
[18:34] <tull> i have a problem with virtualbox puel: usb doesn't work on my installation of windows xp
[18:35] <tull> how can i do?
[18:35] <germ86> hi
[18:35] <Oer> tull Vbox OSE does not have usb support
[18:35] <xangua> did you installed vbox from repository or it's web¿¿ you need to download it from it's web
[18:36] <tull> Oer, have you read well? i use virtualbox puel
[18:36] <tull> PUEL is the proprietary version
[18:36] <Pici> tull: Then you should ask in Virtualbox's support channel: #vbox
[18:36] <tull> ok
[18:37] <tull> thank you
[18:37] <subsume> What should I set my hostname of my webserver to?
[18:37] <notmorewindows> daekdroom i only to know :  i do not have the bar of the finder of vuze
[18:38] <Segaja> anybody?
[18:38] <notmorewindows> I do not have any finder of archives for vuze
[18:38] <notmorewindows> any toolbar
[18:39] <Babalabon> Is there a way to record a video of your desktop to a .avi, or mp4 or whatever without having to use a tv tuner card?
[18:39] <Phantom_Hoover> Is there an easy way to move from 32- to 64-bit Ubuntu?
[18:39] <notmorewindows> no tool search for vuze
[18:39] <Pici> !screencast | Babalabon
[18:39] <bazhang> Phantom_Hoover, full reinstall
[18:39] <Phantom_Hoover> Damn.
[18:40] <Phantom_Hoover> Ah, well, I prepared for it.
[18:40] <Black_Phantom> lol
[18:41] <badmox> hi i have a solr problem "java -jar post.jar *.xml" "Unable to access jarfile post.jar" canged java from openjre to sun reinstalled solr but the error is the same
[18:41] <jove> Hi all: I have a pkg "rpm" and don't know how to extrack or install it under dpkg...I hope someone can advice the basic Ubuntu syntax.
[18:41] <notmorewindows> balalabon the best is gtk-recordmydesktop.desktop i have it tested and is very good
[18:41] <offy> I changed fstab to mount sdb1 to /home/david/Desktop but the permissions are all root
[18:41] <kappa_52> how to take all permissions for a mounted drive ?
[18:42] <Pici> jove: What package?
[18:42] <offy> I can't change permissions of the mounted drive
[18:42] <offy> i tried chown -R david:users
[18:42] <unop> kappa_52, depends on the filesystem of the mounted volume.
[18:42] <jove> vpnclient....rpm : Pici
[18:42] <unop> offy, what filesystem?
[18:42] <sjm> !alien | jove
[18:42] <offy> ntfs
[18:43] <offy> unop: ntfs
[18:43] <unop> offy, you can't do that then -- ntfs does not understand unix permissions
[18:43] <jove> Pici: it's vpnclient.rpm
[18:43] <notmorewindows> help. s.o.s. hi i have this problem with vuze:(Vuze:5503): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
[18:43] <offy> unop: Before I formatted I had it working.
[18:43] <SuperMiguel> is there a tool for intel video card system like nvidia-settings ???
[18:43] <Pici> jove: There are a few vpn client applications in the repos, you shouldn't use an RPM package unless you absolutely have to, and chances are if it needs to integrate with other already installed packages, it won't work.
[18:43] <sjm> !alien | jove
[18:44] <jove> Pici: here is the actual pkg: vpnclient-linux-4.8-8.EL5.i386.rpm
[18:44] <unop> offy, to accept the chown command, i don't think so.
[18:44] <kappa_52> chmod 666 what was the command please tell me ! :(
[18:44] <offy> unop: Thanks. I'll probably change it to ext4
[18:44] <kappa_52> ext4 filesystem
[18:44] <Pepr> how do I change the umask in apache?
[18:44] <unop> offy, but first, why are you wanting to change the owners here?
[18:44] <notmorewindows> hi i have this problem with vuze:(Vuze:5503): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
[18:44] <Pici> jove: Have you looked in our package repositories first?
[18:45] <offy> unop: My second harddrive is used for files only. So I want all files saved there that are on desktop.
[18:45] <offy> unop: They are all root right now
[18:45] <unop> offy, you're using the ntfs drive as a backup?
[18:45] <jove> Pici, it's the specific certificate bundled in it, so I have to use rpm pkg
[18:45] <offy> unop: yes
[18:46] <dax2112rush2> I have a persistant entry in my routing table I'd like to get rid of. How can I find out what is adding it?
[18:46] <tenochslb> Guys alsa is not loading or working in my lucid lynx, it was working but now it does not. I need HELP!!1
[18:46] <unop> offy, you could use tar to create the backups -- and store the tar files on the ntfs drive - you'll preserve permissions and ownership that way.
[18:46] <Pici> !alien | jove
[18:46] <unop> offy, but yea, probably much easier if you converted to EXTx
[18:47] <jove> Pici, Currently I had my vpnclient up and run now, but the certificate will be expired the end of this month, so I have to update the vpnclient certificate
[18:47] <offy> unop: ok
[18:47] <Pici> jove: see the message from ubottu above.
[18:47] <notmorewindows> i need another vuze file with debian , i want a link please ...
[18:48] <Pici> notmorewindows: What?
[18:48] <notmorewindows> with debian pack
[18:48] <ImaLamer> If i install the restricted nvidia drivers and it says 'current' version is that the latest from the nv site?
[18:48] <tenochslb> I go to System>Preference>Sound>output and the only option is dummy or something like that
[18:48] <offy> tenochslb: I had that and a restart fixed it. Did you try a restart?
[18:49] <boybuonvn> how can I have surround sound in ubuntu 10.04 ?
[18:49] <notmorewindows> pici i need a debian package of vuze for lubuntu
[18:49] <tenochslb> offy, i noticed that too but only worked one day. I started with this problem yesterday and i would restart the system and it would work again. Today however the restart does nothing
[18:50] <notmorewindows> pici i need a link
[18:50] <ImaLamer> boybuonvn, need moar info (stereo or ?)
[18:50] <ImaLamer> ^^
[18:50] <ImaLamer> mt
[18:50] <offy> tenochslb: Yup same issue that happened to me. I gave up and reformatted
[18:50] <boybuonvn> @ImaLamer: 5.1 sound
[18:50] <boybuonvn> @ImaLamer: I use onboard soundcard
[18:50] <ImaLamer> If i install the restricted nvidia drivers and it says 'current' version is that the latest from the nv site?
[18:51] <ImaLamer> boybuonvn, like one channel is plugged to the front-right, etc?
[18:51] <Pici> notmorewindows: Whats wrong with the version in the repos?
[18:51] <tenochslb> offy, that is not good. There should be a way to fix it without reformatt. Hopefully someone knows what is wrong.
[18:51] <whlspacedude> notmorewindows: which version of ubuntu
[18:52] <Hawkeye-X> hey. does anyone here know how to make the 2nd NIC work for the internal network?
[18:52] <Hawkeye-X> the internal network consists of a Windows 2003 server
[18:52] <caffiend> Hawkeye-X, you mean ifconfig eth1?
[18:52] <ImaLamer> Hawkeye-X, you get an int address? want to do what authenticate on that network?
[18:53] <Hawkeye-X> caffiend, yeah, something like that
[18:53] <Hawkeye-X> ImaLamer, no, no int address
[18:53] <notmorewindows> pici i have istall the vuze of getdebian online and i have problems with this vuze the last version : i have a problem with vuze:(Vuze:5503): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
[18:53] <ImaLamer> you can set this in the networking applet i believe
[18:53] <ImaLamer> give it an IP
[18:53] <Hawkeye-X> but my question is, can i keep it on the same subnet for eth1
[18:53] <caffiend> Hawkeye-X, to what end?
[18:54] <Pici> notmorewindows: So you have a bug with a third party package that you got from somewhere else?
[18:54] <boybuonvn> @ImaLamer: can you help me?
[18:54] <ubuntu> caffiend: sorry
[18:54] <ImaLamer> boybuonvn, i'm not sure :P
[18:54] <boybuonvn> @ImaLamer: I don't know much English :(
[18:55] <ImaLamer> boybuonvn, maybe the profile in the sound settings (gnome applet)
[18:55] <Hawkeye-X> caffeind the reason I am asking is, is because the router provides the internal network and I'm putting this between the router and the server
[18:55] <boybuonvn> ImaLamer, i want to have 5.1 sound. how can I have it ?
[18:55] <notmorewindows> but pici getdebian online , is a site official or not official?
[18:56] <Pici> notmorewindows: It is not affiliated with Ubuntu.
[18:56] <boybuonvn> ImaLamer, I don't see any profile named 5.1 sound, i only see Analog Stereo and Digital Stereo
[18:56] <Hawkeye-X> so if I set up ifconfig for both nic cards to be on the same subnet, will I have problems?
[18:57] <ImaLamer> boybuonvn, then do research into your hardware - maybe needs a diff setting or "driver", but linux sound isn't my thing :(
[18:57] <caffiend> why not just put a cheap switch in place? But no, I don't think you can do what you want to do in any reasonable fashion
[18:57] <boybuonvn> ImaLamer, I read a tutorial about this problem, but maybe it's only for Ubuntu 8.04
[18:57] <Kangarooo> hello. im on xubuntu and on left click i had uncompress.. but it looks i dont have it for 7z files. how with one command i make all 7z files from folder to uncopress with/without making folders for themselfes?
[18:57] <sebersole> i use konversation in ubuntu and run into problems with my sound cutting out after some time.  It only effects kde apps.  it goes away after reboot, for some time until it happens again.  the complaint is about phonon.  i had this issue before and ended up having to uninstall something, but i cannot remember what (this came back after i accepted a prompted "upgrade"; boy never doing that again)
[18:58] <Hawkeye-X> caffiend: because the server is a Micr0shit Windblowz Sever 2003, and we had a massive amount of traffic come in last week hitting the server
[18:58] <caffiend> Hawkeye-X, if you did that your linux machine would not know how to route properly
[18:58] <xangua> Kangarooo: do you have 7zip installed¿
[18:58] <Ductions> Does anyone have experience with rsync? Im running " sudo rsync -azvv --exclude-from '/home/robin/.exclude' /home/robin/ /media/sda2/Backup" to back up to another hdd, but i get the error: "rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1060) [sender=3.0.7]" whilst it is copying my music over. Any ideas?
[18:58] <Hawkeye-X> trying to use exchange as a spam location
[18:58] <Kangarooo> xangua: yes
[18:58] <Hawkeye-X> so what we want to do is block that
[18:58] <daniel> hey guys
[18:58] <notmorewindows> pici their web page is very good to make linux more easy....
[18:58] <caffiend> Hawkeye-X, so then you have a router and no firewall or what?
[18:58] <Pici> Hawkeye-X: Please mind your language here.
[18:59] <Hawkeye-X> Pici: what'd I say?
[18:59] <azlon> how can i open /dev/video1 in VLC from CLI?
[18:59] <boybuonvn> ImaLamer, I can't find Volume Control
[18:59] <Hawkeye-X> caffiend: basically, yes. I am on the firewall right now
[18:59] <Pici> Hawkeye-X: Your colorful name for Mircrosoft Windows
[18:59] <Hawkeye-X> Pici: ah. :)
[18:59] <ImaLamer> boybuonvn, in gnome?
[18:59] <felix00> how to change between channels using irssi?
[19:00] <magaio> where does networkmanager store its system connection settings?
[19:00] <boybuonvn> ImaLamer, yes :)
[19:00] <Hawkeye-X> Right now: router->switch->server
[19:00] <Kangarooo> felix00: ctrl 1 or alt 1 and so on wth numbers
[19:00] <Hawkeye-X> what I want to do is set up router->switch->firewall->server
[19:00] <Pici> felix00: alt+numbers, or alt+left/right-arrow, or /win 22, or /join #channel_you_are_already_in
[19:01] <ImaLamer> boybuonvn, then you have another issue :P maybe add to the panel?
[19:01] <sebsebseb> sebersole: #kubuntu
[19:01] <notmorewindows> ipici. well i will have uninstall it
[19:01] <caffiend> Hawkeye-X, ok so then you need to move the windows box to a private subnet, add the 2nd nic in the linux box to that subnet and set up port forwarding on the linux box for the traffic you want flowing to the windows server
[19:01] <sebsebseb> sebersole: try there
[19:01] <ImaLamer> boybuonvn, or bring up the pref under the menu
[19:01] <boybuonvn> ImaLamer, the tutorial say that open Volume Control, select Playback Tab
[19:01] <sebsebseb> sebersole: for help
[19:01] <Hawkeye-X> caffeind - gotcha
[19:02] <Hawkeye-X> stand by.
[19:02] <ImaLamer> hardware tab on mine boybuonvn
[19:02] <boybuonvn> ImaLamer, I only see Volume Pref. without Playback tab
[19:02] <Hawkeye-X> if the firewall is the new subnet, what should I put down for the gateway?
[19:02] <boybuonvn> ImaLamer, where???
[19:03] <Daekdroom> Is firefox package on lucid getting updated to 3.6.6 or is it going to stay 3.6.3 while receiving any security fix?
[19:03] <sebersole> sebsebseb: did, they said try here
[19:03] <caffiend> you leave the gateway the same for the firewall and change the gateway on the windows box to the ip you assigned to the second nic on the linux box
[19:03] <sebersole> #konversation (my first try) said to try there, they said to try here
[19:04] <xangua> Daekdroom: just add this ppa https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/%2Barchive/ppa
[19:04] <ImaLamer> sound preferences in gnome
[19:04] <SuperMiguel> everything i put inside /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ is executed as soon as X starts?
[19:04] <Daekdroom> xangua, Well, I'm not asking for a way to get security fixes, I'm asking wether or not those will end up in the official repos, and if Mozilla's new subversions will as well
[19:04] <daniel>  hi guys I have installed fluxbox also xorg I should need a application like gdm but lighter also a file manager anyone prefer ?.
[19:05] <ImaLamer> If i install the restricted nvidia drivers and it says 'current' version is that the latest from the nv site?
[19:05] <Kangarooo> how to make execute command for all files in folder?
[19:06] <caffiend> Kangarooo, what are you trying to do with the files?
[19:06] <erUSUL> Kangarooo: find folder/ -maxdepth 1 -type f -exec command '{}' \;
[19:06] <Pici> Daekdroom: I was under the impression that they would, let me see if I can find a link for you.
[19:06] <boybuonvn> ImaLamer, Thanks very much. Bye :)
[19:07] <erUSUL> Kangarooo: « for file in folder/*; do if [[ ! -d "$file" ]]; then command "$file" ; fi ; done » may work too
[19:08] <Kangarooo> caffiend: since in xubuntu i cant multiple extract 7zip and becouse i dont have in left click for 7-zip option to extract i need to try then command line execute for 7z files. they each contain different files.
[19:08] <Kangarooo> thx erUSUL
[19:08] <caffiend> yeah either of those options will work fine Kangarooo
[19:09] <erUSUL> Kangarooo: if you have a suffix and you are in the folder ... « for file in *.7z; do  command "$file" ; done »
[19:09] <Royall> how would I find out the dimensions of my desktop (in pixels)?
[19:09] <erUSUL> Kangarooo: but i'm sure 7zip will accept « 7zip [whatever options] *.7z »
[19:09] <psimyn> Royall: system>preferences>display
[19:09] <psimyn> *monitors, not display
[19:10] <Jans> Trying to install Lucid. Desktop CD either forces mirroring or won't see SATA disk(s) singular or plural. Alternate disk goes so far and then asks for insertion of CD already present. Suggestions?
[19:10] <Royall> psimyn: oh yea, thanks
[19:12] <mohadib> hello
[19:12] <mohadib> can anyone tell me what fonts i need to install to make PDFs not look like crap?
[19:13] <psimyn> are there any other OS installed, jans? when i've had a similar problem it was sata settings in bios
[19:13] <mohadib> i can view a PDF fine on windows, but looks horrible on my xubuntu box
[19:14] <xangua> mohadib: what pdf viever are you using¿¿ evince works perfectly, have you tried adobe reader¿¿
[19:14] <Kangarooo> no erUSUL 7z e *.7z doenst even work 7z cant by default extract multiple files. so command is needed to execute for each
[19:15] <erUSUL> Kangarooo: i gave plenty of alternatives ... ;P
[19:16] <kimse> hi, i see alot of guides saying that you have to disable AppArmor, because it creates troubles. But they never really say which kind of problems?
[19:16] <mohadib> xangua: "Document Reader"
[19:16] <mohadib> lol
[19:16] <Jans> psi
[19:16] <Kangarooo> yes thx erUSUL the first one is working really great. thats what is needed. ill also post with thx to you to xfce to add that
[19:17] <Jans> psimyn There are no other OSes.
[19:17] <Hawkeye-X> the computer won't talk to the 2nd NIC card
[19:17] <Hawkeye-X> what am I doing wrong?
[19:17] <Hawkeye-X> also, how do I find out if the eth0 is working?
[19:18] <psimyn> try checking Hard Drive settings in BIOS. need to set "Compatible" mode or something similar. Can't remember exactly, sorry
[19:18] <daniel> hi guys I have installed fluxbox also xorg I should need a application like gdm but lighter also a file manager anyone prefer ?.
[19:18] <maco> daniel: xdm for login manager
[19:18] <maco> daniel: and i hear pcmanfm is nice for a file manager
[19:19] <Jans> Psimyn: What BIOS settings did you change? There is no setting for RAID that I could find (4 yr old ASUS board).
[19:19] <Hawkeye-X> hmmmmm
[19:20] <Hawkeye-X> Here's the current issue: I am able to ping to the server, but not able to connect to the Internet
[19:20] <Hawkeye-X> eth1 NIC cards points to the Internet
[19:20] <Hawkeye-X> eth0 NIC card points to the internal network
[19:20] <julian_> How do you configure Openbox to automatcally connect to a wireless network?  I'm using Ubuntu 10.04.
[19:20] <erUSUL> Hawkeye-X: no default gateaway defined ? routing problem ?
[19:21] <Hawkeye-X> I must have misconfigured somewhere..
[19:21] <Hawkeye-X> erUSR: any way to check?
[19:21] <Hawkeye-X> because the NIC0 card is supposed to go to the server
[19:21] <caffiend> Hawkeye-X, you need to read up on NAT
[19:21] <Hawkeye-X> and if the server cant' connect, then I got no Internet
[19:21] <erUSUL> julian_: openbox is a window manager... install a wifi manager or use /etc/network/interfaces
[19:21] <erUSUL> Hawkeye-X: "ip route" prints your routing table
[19:21] <caffiend> the linux box is acting as the firewall so it needs to NAT the traffic on the private network
[19:22] <erUSUL> !ics
[19:22] <caffiend> once you have that operational then you need to read up on port forwarding for your inbound connections which are supposed to be hitting the windows server
[19:23] <psimyn> Jans: what board are you using (model #)? When I did it I had to update BIOS, then it was IDE Configuration, and there was an item called "SATA Operation Mode", had to set it to Compatible
[19:23] <shaw1337> Hi all
[19:23] <shaw1337> :)
[19:23] <guntbert> !hi | shaw1337
[19:24] <Isonyx> Hello.
[19:24] <Isonyx> Can anyone help me out real quick?
[19:25] <shaw1337> I need u guys to fiigure out my prob
[19:25] <Isonyx> What is it?
[19:25] <shaw1337> i tried to hack my ubuntu 9.10 login scree
[19:25] <Isonyx> Ah..And what happened?
[19:25] <shaw1337> using tty commands
[19:25] <shaw1337> but it dint workd
[19:25] <shaw1337> how to change it ?
[19:26] <julian_> erUSUL, I believe .. at least for fluxbox, I was able to connect via nm-applet.  Is there anyway to make it run automatically at login?
[19:26] <^Jay2^> why is it that when i do iwconfig eth1 (i am using bcmwl) i dont see my ssid and other stuffs, but when i do sudo iwconfig eth1 then i can see everything
[19:26] <Isonyx> You could always just download an external program instead of using the tty commands.
[19:27] <shaw1337> yup i did tat also bt ..dint workd
[19:27] <shaw1337> shall i try brut forcing or directly editin as root
[19:27] <Isonyx> Try...
[19:27] <Isonyx> 1. Logout of your current session and return to the GDM
[19:27] <Isonyx> 2. Switch to the tty command line prompt using Ctrl-Alt-F1
[19:27] <Isonyx> 3. Login using your normal login/password
[19:27] <Isonyx> 4. at the command line prompt type: export DISPLAY=:0.0
[19:27] <Isonyx> 5. then type: sudo -u gdm gnome-control-center
[19:27] <FloodBot2> Isonyx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:27] <shaw1337> the gdm folder
[19:28] <shaw1337> i tried tat one only !
[19:28] <bluntu> Hey, I am trying to boot Ubuntu from an USB drive to install it on my PC. But the booting process hangs at the Ubuntu logo with the five dots under it.... Any idea how to solve this?
[19:28] <shaw1337> it dint worked
[19:28] <Z-RAY_> after amateur tries to update MLT to 0.5.6 i have left without ffmpeg modules and even ffpmeg is installed, kdenlive says that some not installed at all. also it says that some sound module is not installed. i spent all day to make "lines and dots" bug dissappear (white lines and dots - was promised to be fixed in MLT 0.5.5) and i couldn't make it, even worse - now modules "avformat module", "Quimage module", "Title module" are missing and reinstalling of th
[19:28] <Isonyx> Hmm Well then im not sure..What version are you uding?
[19:28] <Z-RAY_> e program and ffmpeg does not helping.
[19:28] <Z-RAY_> help me please to make this thing work correctly. my skype is "woanerges", or write me here. please, bro's, come on, i need some support here!
[19:28] <Z-RAY_> white dots and lines examples:
[19:28] <FloodBot2> Z-RAY_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:28] <Z-RAY_> http://kdenlive.org/sites/default/files/shot1_0.png
[19:28] <Z-RAY_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrFXr_bx2a0
[19:28] <shaw1337> ubuntu 9.10
[19:28] <Jans> psimyn It's an a8n-vm1 ASUS. There is a BIOS setting to turn on nVidia RAID and still leave RAID disabled for the disks beneath. I am trying that setting now.
[19:29] <bluntu> Hey, I am trying to boot Ubuntu 10.04 from an USB drive to install it on my PC. But the booting process hangs at the Ubuntu logo with the five dots under it.... Any idea how to solve this?
[19:29] <shaw1337> in 9.04 it works fr admin panel itself bt y canonical did tat ..i hav no idea
[19:29] <simar> bluntu, Is the pendrive work on other computers?
[19:29] <shaw1337> n the default login screen looks very dull so
[19:30] <bluntu> can;t try.. I only have one computer
[19:30] <bluntu> Simar
[19:30] <Isonyx> I personally am having a problem with my wireless network..Seems theres some processes running that are preventing me from doing what I need to..Everytime I kill these processes they come up under a new ID..Could anyone help?
[19:30] <julian_> bluntu, what do you mean by hangs?...Does the screen go bad? Or does the logo still show, and does it show the dots continuing to cycle?
[19:30] <shaw1337> Isonyx:yup
[19:30] <bluntu> julian_ that last thing with the dots
[19:30] <Isonyx> How do I close the processes?
[19:31] <julian_> ok bluntu....well doesn't seem to be a screen driver issue...
[19:31] <shaw1337> Isonyx:chk out wat process r running
[19:31] <shaw1337> first
[19:31] <bluntu> julian_ no, I huess not
[19:31] <bluntu> guess
[19:31] <shaw1337> Isonyx:type ps in terminal
[19:32] <shaw1337> then killps n process ID
[19:32] <bluntu> julian_ is there a way to make it boot into commanline or so? I really want to install this on the HD. The HD can be wiped: nothing of value sits on it
[19:32] <shaw1337> Isonyx:the process u want 2 kill
[19:33] <julian_> sorry bluntu, i'm a bit of a newbie myself...not sure about that.
[19:33] <bluntu> julian_ thnx anyway.
[19:33] <simar> bluntu, this may be a issue with the pen drive you are using. This is really difficult to test. One thing you could try is that unplug a many devices as possible and then boot again may be you could boot now.
[19:33] <tenochslb> gusy need help. i do not want to reformatt my laptop. Sound worked perfect then suddenly sound just stopped working. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/afMj9Wds
[19:34] <bluntu> simar only mouse, keyboard and pendrive are attached...
[19:34] <simar> bluntu, you could also download again and then try with a live cd if possible for you..
[19:34] <Blaze_Boy> i tried to run ubuntu hardy USb flash on emachines eM250 netbook, it display start menu (live,install,chack,...etc) i choose live, it display loading bar then a black screen with BusyBox line with prompt (initramfs), what should i do ?, the main Goal is to use Gparted
[19:34] <Isonyx> shaw1337: I know how to kill processes but everytime I kill them they come up in a new ID less then 2 seconds later...
[19:34] <bluntu> simar thats the problem here: the internal cd drive is broken... That's why I am trying to use a flashdrive
[19:34] <thune3> Isonyx: you need to stop the services that are launching these processes. what process names are you killing?
[19:35] <simar> bluntu, how do you then made this pen drive??
[19:35] <supam> hello, I inherited an ubuntu box, 10.04, I have no /etc/inittab and while I have the upstart package installed, I have no /etc/event.d - what is missing?
[19:35] <Isonyx> 	Name
[19:35] <Isonyx> 829	NetworkManager
[19:35] <Isonyx> 840	avahi-daemon
[19:35] <Isonyx> 845	avahi-daemon
[19:35] <Isonyx> 920	wpa_supplicant
[19:35] <FloodBot2> Isonyx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:35] <Isonyx> 4015	dhclient
[19:35] <mfacenet> how does one configure pae?
[19:35] <boris> hiho
[19:35] <bluntu> simar I used a friends laptop yesterday...
[19:35] <SailorReality> On the manual setup , if I select a logical partition for say /boot will it automatically be named /dev/hda5 (windows was on /dev/hada1 i have one harddrive and im using the free space) and then does that mean it sits inside which primary partition? or do i have to set up a primary first...confused
[19:35] <daniel> hey guys can someone help me out. the thing is I have installed fluxbox on ubuntu and I need a file which makes me autologin so I dont need to  wrote username  & password inkl startx
[19:36] <Isonyx> Did you see those?
[19:36] <bluntu> simar and I can use a program for it under windows....
[19:36] <boris> is there any good soul who wish to help new libuntu user :)?
[19:36] <Isonyx> NetworkManager, avahi-daemon, avahi-daemon, wpa_supplicant, dhclient.
[19:36] <bluntu> simar but I want to get rid of windows...
[19:36] <supam> daniel: gdm or any other similar package should help, although you still need to "login" once X starts, there are probably ways to skip that as well
[19:36] <supam> hello, I inherited an ubuntu box, 10.04, I have no /etc/inittab and while I have the upstart package installed, I have no /etc/event.d - what is missing?
[19:37] <thune3> Isonyx: one is "stop network-manager" ...
[19:37] <daniel> ok thanx supam
[19:37] <ramiro> h
[19:38] <SailorReality> actually i guess my question is: How do i setup a extended partition ...is it just the first primary one
[19:38] <supam> thune3: it looks like he stopped it ;)
[19:38] <boris> how to finde driver for wireless net. card?
[19:38] <SailorReality> or is there an option
[19:38] <supam> daniel: gdm, xdm, kdm, etc depending on which window manager you use
[19:38] <daniel> what do you think is the solution for me supam
[19:38] <runtu> boris, what are you mean?
[19:38] <daniel> I use fluxbox
[19:38] <supam> daniel: I'd use xdm then
[19:38] <daniel> ok ok thanx :)
[19:38] <Benkinooby> when i copy a folder with the cp command, it doen't copy the files that are linked. instead it only copies the links. how can i copy the files that are linked instead of only the link?
[19:38] <supam> but I don't know how to make it skip the login prompt
[19:38] <daniel> just to install?
[19:38] <daniel> ok
[19:38] <supam> google it up
[19:38] <supam> yeah, just install xdm and go from there
[19:39] <daniel> thankx a lot man
[19:39] <simar> bluntu, thats good bluntu but you could possibly use windows for the last time to download ubuntu 10.04 as a image and use a utility to write it to pen drive directly. I hope this may work or you get a live cd if its avaliable nearby or if not you could order it free at www.ubuntu.com if you could wait for may be a weeks time..
[19:40] <Isonyx> Back.
[19:40] <ramiro> when I log into the login screen (ubuntu 10.04) all I get is an xterm. I had previously done an apt-get upgrade and there was some issue with ubuntu trying to remove a python2.5 symlink
[19:40] <SailorReality> do all primary partitions have to be used first before i can make a logical partition?
[19:40] <bluntu> nah, can;t wait, but I have the iso file on my Mac. I could burn it from there, but that is no use... I need to boot from a USB drive
[19:40] <psimyn|away> SailorReality: you can setup extended partition wherever you would like. it will behave like a logical partition
[19:40] <thune3> Isonyx: "stop network-manager" "stop avahi-daemon"
[19:40] <ramiro> how do I reinstall the gnome packages and delete the configuration (or whatever) so that I get a working gnome again?
[19:40] <Isonyx> stop: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.146" (uid=1000 pid=5883 comm="stop) interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Stop" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init"))
[19:40] <Jordan_U> Benkinooby: cp --dereference
[19:41]  * BluesKaj wonders if 'always allow' in wallet manager actually means 'always ask' , because that's what it does
[19:41] <thune3> Isonyx: sudo
[19:41] <Benkinooby> what does cp -b exactly do?
[19:41] <simar> bluntu there are utilities available to get the iso image containing the ubuntu installing directly to pen drive. You could use that.
[19:42] <bluntu> simar: Yeah, I used those to make this pendrive
[19:42] <bluntu> simar: I just pressed ctrl+alt+ the windows logo while booting and came into an option menu. I might see what I can do from there...
[19:43] <pfifo> what is the difference between the server livecd and the alternate livecd
[19:43] <pdg1> I've got a new computer with Ubuntu on it... where should i go to find some cool stuff I can install onto it? like a list of popular apps
[19:43] <Psimyn> really depends what you want to do
[19:43] <SailorReality> psimyn: but how do i designate which one is the extended partition
[19:43] <Pici> Benkinooby: If you use cp to overwrite a file and you use the -b switch, it'll backup the file by appending a ~ to the end.
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: there is no server live cd afaik
[19:43] <simar> bluntu, could you tell me what are the options, so if I could guide something??
[19:44] <bluntu> simar that would be great!
[19:44] <Jordan_U> pfifo: They both use the same installer, and if you go into the advanced menus they both can install either Desktop or Server (or any other configuration). The difference is just what packages are contained on the CD itself and what is installed by default.
[19:44] <SailorReality> say I have 4 of them on hda would hda4 automatically be the extended one and then anything that i put as logical say hda5 as logical would sit inside it?
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: alternate will install a desktop system in text mode (faster). The server install installs an x-less system in text mode
[19:44] <p4nt0oom> java for ubuntu 10.04?
[19:44] <bluntu> simar options are F1: Help F2 Language F3 Keymap F4 Modes F5 Accessibility F6 Other options
[19:44] <p4nt0oom> do i install runtime or webstart?
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> !java | p4nt0oom
[19:45] <pfifo> it is possible to install a server with the alternate cd?
[19:45] <Jordan_U> pfifo: Yes.
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: the server kernel also has PAE enabled by default
[19:45] <Isonyx> Now I cant connect to the network because the network manager isnt running.
[19:45] <bluntu> simar under Expert mode there are some more options which I don;t udnerstand like nodmraid and noapic
[19:45] <Benkinooby> Pici, ah, ok thanks. i am looking for an option to copy files that are linke instead of only comying the link itself.
[19:45] <Benkinooby> i am using tar right now, but i wnat to copy it 1:1
[19:45] <Pici> pfifo: Not really.  The Alternate CD installs the same stuff that the Desktop CD installs, it just doesn't have a Live CD environment.
[19:45] <pfifo> is it possible to use the alternate cd to install a server and then switch to the server kernel?
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: yes, you can install the server kernel from the repo
[19:46] <Pici> pfifo: The Alternate CD installs a desktop environment though.
[19:46] <anomaly> why not just use the server install cd?
[19:46] <Psimyn> Sailor: i assume that would be the case. Don't quote me though, that could very well be wrong
[19:47] <pfifo> is it possible to start with the server cd install, switch to the desktop kernel and install X and all the other gui stuff?
[19:47] <madurax86> i want to install dsl to usb is there any GUI program? cant i do this with usb-creator-gtk?
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: yes but if you intend a desktop system then install the desktop iso\
[19:47] <thune3> Isonyx: ? you asked how to stop network manager.
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> madurax86: unetbootin
[19:47] <madurax86> ActionParsnip: thanks
[19:47] <Jordan_U> Pici: Yes, Ubuntu is just a huge set of interchangeable packages. Anything is possible.
[19:48] <Pici> Jordan_U: I'm aware.
[19:48] <simar> bluntu, Just hold on I'm trying to get some experts to help you better??
[19:48] <bluntu> simar cool. Thank you
[19:48] <thune3> Isonyx: you can always restart it with "start network-manager"
[19:48] <Jordan_U> pfifo: Yes, Ubuntu is just a huge set of interchangeable packages. Anything is possible.
[19:48] <Pici> Jordan_U: :D
[19:49] <bluntu> simar just to be sure: I am now running a memory test just to see that at least my RAM is ok
[19:49] <pfifo> can i get ubuntu on a floppy disk for use as a firewall or other barebones server?
[19:50] <Jordan_U> pfifo: You can't fit much on a floppy.
[19:50] <simar> bluntu, You could possibly help yourself more as the control of computer is in your hand. Try to do as many things as possible.
[19:50] <bluntu> simar I am, shile waiting for more help ;)
[19:50] <Th3raid0r> Odd question, but does google seem do be down to anyone. I have tried 3 different DNS servers, but google still isn't responding.
[19:50] <bluntu> shile=while
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_Linux
[19:50] <Pici> Th3raid0r: wfm.
[19:50] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: ah recovery is done
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: i'd use a usb device and use the server install or xpud
[19:50] <pfifo> ok, being realistic, more like a flash drive, preferably as small as possible
[19:50] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: took nearly 1.5 hours
[19:51] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: got live USB to boot
[19:51] <bluntu>  Th3raid0r  http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[19:51] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: i have question regarding boot loader
[19:51] <Pici> !minimal | pfifo
[19:51] <mystiq> Hey, I have a problem with a pae kernel, my wifi wont work
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> mystiq: does it work in the normal kernel?
[19:51] <simar> bluntu, Just to confirm do you made the bootable pendrive from the image from your friends computer of your friend had a ubuntu and from there you has created it using statupdiskcreater..
[19:51] <mystiq> ActionParsnip: yes
[19:52] <pfifo> in 10.04 they removed the sysvinit package didnt they? if so is there anyway to get it back?
[19:52] <Th3raid0r> Okay so obviously it is just me, but what could be the problem? I have tried my ISP DNS, OpenDNS, and even Google's own DNS, but for some reason it still won't connect
[19:52] <trupheenix> ImaLamer: ?
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> mystiq: ok under the normal kernel run: sudo lshw -C network    not the driver used, then boot to pae and do the same and compare. if they are the same then i'd log a bug
[19:52] <bluntu>  I created it on a windows 7 computer with the help of an utility and the ISO i downlaoded from Ubuntu.org
[19:52] <bluntu> simar
[19:53] <oCean_> Th3raid0r: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[19:53] <bluntu> simar: I just tested the drive with it;s own testing mechansm, and it found one error. But it doesn;t want to say what the error is.
[19:53] <simar> ActionParsnip, I hope you could possibly help a newbie bluntu trying to install ubuntu in his computer but is stuck there. I'm trying to help him but myself has limited experiance in this field ..
[19:53] <Th3raid0r> Okay so obviously it is just me, but what could be the problem? I have tried my ISP DNS, OpenDNS, and even Google's own DNS, but for some reason it still won't connect
[19:53] <Pici> Th3raid0r: Does  « dig google.com »  respond with addresses?
[19:53] <mystiq> ActionParsnip: i googled a bit and someone reccomended installing backports modules and apparently it solved the problem for them
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> simar: is the iso md5 tested and the burned cd check for errors?
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> mystiq: sounds like a plan
[19:54] <Th3raid0r> Pici, yes it does, and if i plug it into my browser it works and google comes up
[19:54] <bluntu> simar ActionParsnip : it is a pendrive and I just checked it and it found one error, but doesn't want to say what it is
[19:55] <mystiq> ActionParsnip: yep, but i've already done it. didn't work :P
[19:55] <simar> ActionParsnip, Please address all things to bluntu  too
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> mystiq: sounds like a bug to me
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> simar: please relay, md5 tests are  important
[19:55] <mystiq> ActionParsnip: ok, i'll do what u reccomended ;) thanks
[19:56] <kane77> hi, how can I view all photos that are in subfolders?
[19:56] <bluntu> ActionParsnip simar: I am seeing the screen you can see here on the net http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3200/2946893011_d919004bdf.jpg
[19:56] <simar> ActionParsnip, I don't have access to the iso so I can't say anything about it..
[19:56] <bluntu> simar: how do I do and MD5 test
[19:56] <bluntu> ?
[19:57] <Th3raid0r> Pici, yes it does, and if i plug it into my browser it works and google comes up, but for some reason www.google.com doesn't bring up anything, and it is ONLY google and its main US servers.
[19:57] <oCean_> !md5sum | bluntu
[19:58] <SailorReality> can i destroy my harddrive by constantly installing operating systems
[19:58] <simar> bluntu, About MD5 test i myself do not know much but you need to select engish from the menu .. ie press enter to proceed in the installation..
[19:59] <bluntu> ActionParsnip, simar: I did the MD5 test: numbers are the same. I proceeded to the next screen and now see the options I told you about before
[19:59] <bluntu> "Try ubuntu without installin"
[19:59] <bluntu> "Install ubuntu"
[20:00] <bluntu> "Check discs for defects"
[20:00] <bluntu> etc
[20:00] <danlock2> SailorReality, that sounds unlikely.
[20:00] <simar> bluntu, select try ubuntu without installation and Install afterwards form the shortcut in the desktop
[20:01] <simar> bluntu, I think you are done...
[20:01] <SailorReality> danlock2: because i cant afford another harddrive
[20:01] <SailorReality> and this guy said i would
[20:01] <Th3raid0r> Pici, yes it does, and if i plug it into my browser it works and google comes up, but for some reason www.google.com doesn't bring up anything, and it is ONLY google and its main US servers. Additionally, this seems to only affect Chrome, my browser of choice. Konquerer can access google just fine... this makes no sense.
[20:01] <bluntu> ActionParsnip & simar: If I choose "try ubuntu without installation" it hangs again on the bootscreen...
[20:01] <SailorReality> and i was like, ya rite ur just trying to scare me
[20:01] <bluntu> Simar: that is where I started ttoday...
[20:02] <Pici> Th3raid0r: What if you press shift-refresh when you're on google.com? Does it flush the cache and refresh the page properly?
[20:02] <simar> ActionParsnip, What do you think of this??
[20:03] <simar> bluntu, and so your install option will also not work..
[20:05] <Th3raid0r> Pici :  That doesn't seem to do anything. Google.ca comes up, but not google.com... additionally, the IP address for google works... I am pretty sure it is Chrome now, though... What is the command to reinstall a program? Sudo dpkg something something?
[20:05] <bluntu> simar: yeah... I guess so. Or do you think I should just wait, and it might be possible that booting from a pendrive might just take very very very lomg?
[20:05] <daniel_> hey guys which is the best filemanager I want access to the terminal in the file-managern so if im into a folder I can use "Open terminal here"
[20:06] <Pici> Th3raid0r: sudo apt-get install --reinstall chromium-browser
[20:06] <Th3raid0r> I am using google's proprietary browser, not the chromium ppa
[20:06] <kane77> hi, how can I view all photos that are in subfolders?
[20:07] <Knotty> ..
[20:07] <acid__> fury.com
[20:07] <Slart> daniel_: there is a package you can install that does that to nautilus
[20:07] <simar> bluntu, Thats not the case with pen drive but still you can try that. Meanwhile you could also try to copy your pen drive to the other working os you have so you can verify that you pen drive has no reading error in it.. Please perform this test also..
[20:08] <Slart> !info nautilus-open-terminal  | daniel_
[20:08] <Java_question> hello, i would like to ask if there is any class /method in java in order to read the source code of a web page
[20:09] <simar> If anyone is expert here on ubuntu installation issues please see the case of blunt. He's a newbie trying to install ubuntu in his system but is stuck during boot for the pendrive .....  HELP
[20:09] <simar> Slart, You could possibly help blunt .... I hope
[20:10] <bluntu_> simar: thnx for this extra shoutout... I am really stuck here... now trying option like noapic from the 'other options' menu, just to see if that helps
[20:10] <Th3raid0r> Well, it works again after reinstalling, i am guessing i should submit a bug report to google about this. so frustrating.
[20:10] <Slart> simar, blunt: I've never tried installing from a usb stick, sorry
[20:10] <bambr> hi, i've got trouble with grub, after googling and trying still no luck, so here is the problem: grub doesn't load by default, giving Error 15, i go to boot menu, execute kernel command in command prompt, then root command and then boot - and it goes up normally, the thing is that in kernel command i have root=/dev/sda1 and the root command itself is root (hd0,0). so tell me, what's wrong?
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> bluntu: did you check the iso? did you test the  cd for defects?
[20:10] <bluntu_> Slart" the trouble is not so much in the medium as it is in the installation process which hangs
[20:10] <Slart> bambr: have you checked what error 15 means? I can't remember
[20:11] <Roasted_> can anybody verify whether or not eiciel supports ext4?
[20:11] <mgolisch> does the installation start at al?
[20:11] <simar> ActionParsnip, yes he did and he;s cleared the md5 test..
[20:11] <bambr> Slart: file not found
[20:11] <tucemiux> !paste
[20:11] <bluntu> ActionParsnip: yes, I checked the ISO, and MD5 they are fine.
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | bluntu simar
[20:11] <Slart> bambr: perhaps it's not the kernel that it can't find but some kind of configuration file for grub.. have you tried reinstalling grub?
[20:12] <bambr> errm, it's freshly upgraded ubuntu, why would i reinstall it? :) i did setup (hd0,0) in grub command prompt though
[20:13] <bambr> and then did grub-install /dev/sda1
[20:13] <simar> ActionParsnip, Does the MD5 integrity test ensures that pendrive has no read error .. Because that may be one cause of the hang during installation??
[20:13] <kpel> hi. since yesterday i see a notification about a new dpkg package but i get a message from the updater saying that the package is not authenticated. do you know if this is a malicious package?
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> simar: no the md5 test simply ensures the iso is free of errors and is complete
[20:14] <kpel> i'm using 10.04 LTS btw
[20:14] <anomaly> screenlets has a way to display the output of a command in a small window.. any other way of having a window display output without using a terminal?
[20:14] <Slart> bambr: when upgrading to 10.04 it most probably upgraded from grub 1 to grub 2.. I was thinking something might have gone wrong in that process.. but that reinstall stuff you did should have taken care of that, if I understand things correctly
[20:14] <bluntu> ActionParsnip the basic problem is that I arrive at the spalsh screen with the five dots turning white and orange all the time. And there the system just sits... I have a 2Ghz processor and 512mb of Ram
[20:15] <Slart> anomaly: conky can also show the output of a terminal command..
[20:15] <bambr> Slart: upgrade messed with "root" part of kernel line, place UUID thingie there, i've put /dev/sda1 instead
[20:15] <anomaly> Slart was hoping for a single purpose way.. but thanks for the suggestion :)
[20:15] <Slart> bambr: as far as I know that shouldn't matter.. uuid's are just better.. they are not mandatory.. I think
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> bluntu: add boot options so you can watch the boot rather than the dumb splash hiding the useful stuff
[20:16] <bluntu> ActionParsnip how do I do that?
[20:16] <simar> ActionParsnip, bluntu Then you should also test your pendrive for read error by coping it whole in the working os that you are running .. Please do it before all
[20:16] <mgolisch> bluntu: you may want to disable the splash screen to see whats actualy going on
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Slart: it just uniquely identifys the partition, /dev entries may change
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | bluntu
[20:17] <Babalabon> msg nickserv identify souleater0909
[20:17] <Slart> Babalabon: better change that
[20:17] <simar> bluntu, also follow the boot options as Actio.... said
[20:17] <Ulmo> I've been into Gparted and my ubuntu partition seems to be split into, a: /dev/sda5 ext4, b: unallocated 1mb, and c: dev/sda6 linux-swap, is this normal?
[20:17] <Z-RAY_> bbb
[20:17] <mgolisch> quick or some ass will take your account
[20:17] <mgolisch> hopefully you dont have admin anywhere
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Ulmo: you may want to free some space, 1mb isn't a lot at all
[20:18] <Slart> bambr: what kind of setup are you using? how many hard drives.. anything weird? strange external drives? multi-boot?
[20:18] <Ulmo> ActionParsnip, No the partition is 22gb but it has a piece which is 1mb which is unallocated.
[20:18] <bambr> Slart: single hard drive, /dev/sda1 as / and /dev/sda2 as swap
[20:19] <simar> Z-RAY_, whats your issue?
[20:19] <bluntu> ActionParsnip
[20:19] <bluntu>  ubottu simar: I found this line on the help page: "As the computer boots the default action will present a Grub message with a 3 second timer." But this screen doesn't appear for me.
[20:19] <Slart> bambr: hmm.. hard to see how grub could be confused by that.. odd
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> Ulmo: i see
[20:19] <bambr> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu.com/457006/ <-- entry from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> bluntu: hold shift at boot, you can now press e to (e)dit the boot
[20:19] <Slart> bambr: eh.. menu.lst isn't used any more.. that's grub 1
[20:19] <bambr> hmm
[20:20] <Ulmo> As long as it's normal for the partition to be subdivided this way then it's fine.
[20:20] <jamesanelay> Hello people, I just installed ubuntu desktop and my resonlution is being capped at 800x600 I used to be gettin much bigger than this on widows. Anyone know how i can change it ?
[20:20] <daniel_> sorry slart was afk
[20:20] <daniel_> thanks a lot for the help
[20:20] <bambr> Slart: but when i boot it come in grub menu
[20:20] <daniel_> but I dont rly like nautilus..
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> jamesanelay: run: lspci | grep -i vga    websearch for the output
[20:20] <slidinghorn> !res | jamesanelay
[20:20] <Z-RAY_> hi i was trying to solve problem with MLT 0.5.4, but......
[20:20] <Slart> bambr: hmm.. perhaps you reinstalled grub 1? could that make any sense?
[20:20] <Z-RAY_> if you know something about that, please contact me in privat
[20:20] <Z-RAY_> e
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> daniel_: then use thunar, ro, pcmanfm instead, there are lots of file managers
[20:21] <bluntu> ActionParsnip ubottu simar: but pressing escape gave me the following: (process:259): Glib-WARNING **: getpwuid_r(): failed duw to unknown user id (0)
[20:21] <IdleOne> Z-RAY_: what is MLT?
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> rox ,not ro
[20:21] <slidinghorn> Z-RAY_, try to keep the convo in the room.  the conversations are logged, so maybe someone could benefit if they're having the same problem in the future
[20:21] <bambr> Slart: dunno, maybe grub-install did it? what conf file should i touch for grub2?
[20:21] <daniel_> I have tried thunar also rox-filer.
[20:21] <daniel_> hmm
[20:21] <kpel> hi. since yesterday i see a notification about a new dpkg package but i get a message from the updater saying that the package is not authenticated. do you know if this is a malicious package? i am using 10.04 LTS.
[20:22] <bambr> Slart: grub --version says 0.97
[20:22] <Slart> bambr: /etc/default/grub is one.. then you have to run update-grub when you're done
[20:22] <Slart> bambr: ah.. so you do have the old grub.. you are running 10.04, right?
[20:22] <bambr> Slart: yup
[20:22] <hmw> can i use nautilus to search for all .avi files in a folder tree and move it to one single folder?
[20:22] <simar> Z-RAY_, Please note that typing your message in many posts simultaneously is not a good practise rather post everything you want to say in a single line and then press enter.
[20:22] <Slart> daniel_: then I don't really know.. perhaps.. thunar? that's the one they use in xubuntu, I think
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> daniel_: nautilus is default, but it can be changed
[20:22] <Slart> hmw: yes.. there is a little search button.. *.avi should get you all matching files
[20:23] <hmw> Slart: i tried that
[20:23] <Slart> bambr: why not try running "sudo update-grub" in a terminal.. see what it says
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> hmw: find . -iname "*.mp3" -exec mv {} /path/to/desk \;
[20:23] <Slart> bambr: it should autodetect your partitions, kernels and whatnot..
[20:23] <hmw> ActionParsnip: thanks :(
[20:24] <hmw> nautlius' search sucks
[20:24] <bambr> Slart: it said that it updated /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:24] <Slart> bambr: hang on.. let me check what the different grub packages are called
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> hmw: not used it as I understand the find command
[20:25] <bambr> Slart: okay
[20:25] <Phantom_Hoover> I want to install 64-bit Ubuntu in place of 32-bit, and I am at the stage of being on the live CD. How do I install over the old Ubuntu partition?
[20:25] <hmw> ActionParsnip: i am not _always_ working in the shell. especially not, when i use my computer for mutlimedia stuff
[20:25] <mystiq> ActionParsnip: I did what you said.. http://wklej.org/id/358101/    http://wklej.org/id/358102/   these are the results, and they are  different. What shall I do now? :S
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> hmw: still doesnt stop you using terminal
[20:25] <Slart> bambr: try this.. "sudo apt-get -purge grub"  <-- that's the old version.. then "sudo apt-get install grub-common" <-- that's the new version
[20:26] <mgolisch> Phantom_Hoover: just install it again?
[20:26] <simar> bluntu, please wait till I read the boot options page. Meanwhile you should test your pendrive for read errors though by coping it whole to somewhere ...
[20:26] <mgolisch> Phantom_Hoover: or what do you mean by install over?
[20:26] <Z-RAY_> thanx simar
[20:26] <bluntu> simar: I tested the pendrive: it is fine
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> hmw: your "multimedia stuff" doesn't mean the terminal is not to be used in any way
[20:26] <slin_> re
[20:26] <bluntu> simar: I seem to have this problem: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/111396
[20:26] <Slart> bambr: you can also try "sudo apt-get install grub-pc" .. that's for pc bios's.. there are other versions for efi, coreboot and such
[20:26] <hmw> ActionParsnip: it means opening a new terminal, cding into the folder, etc etc etc
[20:26] <slin_> are there any rtfm which points how i can set up defult settings for users? i mean gnome panel locations, applets on them, whatever
[20:26] <fictorial> `man 5 init` for upstart 0.5.0+ isn't explicit about how `respawn` works with `instance`.  If I have multiple instances and specify `respawn` and any of the instances abnormally exits, does upstart respawn the one that failed, none, all?
[20:26] <Phantom_Hoover> Where I have a partition containing 32-bit, I want there to be a partition containing 64-bit.
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> hmw: so, if it does the job well then who cares
[20:26] <bluntu> simar: I am trying to solve that problem but I don;t understand this sentence: "ou can get one from the Live CD mounting your root FS to some folder and running"
[20:27] <hmw> ActionParsnip: "well" is a question of definition and mood, right?
[20:27] <Phantom_Hoover> mgolisch: ^
[20:27] <simar> bluntu, Its good that you are working yourself, I will see that  hold on
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> hmw: for repeated tasks and such, the terminal is very powerful and should be used
[20:27] <simar> Z-RAY_, you are welcome
[20:27] <mgolisch> Phantom_Hoover: you want to keep the old install or what? still dont get it
[20:27] <bluntu> simar: not gonna wai for you guys ;-) nah, really approciate your help here!
[20:27] <kholby> If I don't shut my laptop down before moving to a new location, it will not connect to any wireless networks at the new location.  Anyone else have this problem?
[20:28] <hmw> ActionParsnip:  you do not WANT to understand, do you
[20:28] <Phantom_Hoover> mgolisch: I do not want to keep the old install.
[20:28] <Phantom_Hoover> I do not have /home in a separate partition, either.
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> hmw: maybe you arent explaining it well, so far all you have said is you dont want to cd to directories etc.
[20:28] <bluntu> simar: sorry for the typos by the way
[20:28] <Slart> hmw: I might have missed a message or two here.. didn't the nautilus search thing work?
[20:29] <hmw> Slart: the window stays empty
[20:29] <hmw> now i got to read the find man page _again_ because it doesnt do as i want
[20:29] <bambr> Slart: grub-pc seemed to install grub2 thingies, i'll try to reboot now :)
[20:29] <simar> bluntu, Its our pleasure to help new people here. The whole community is so helpful. I advise you to get in the development(contribution to ubuntu) after you install ...
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> hmw: just use what I said but tweak it
[20:30] <Slart> bambr: lets hope it works
[20:30] <bluntu> simar: I am first gonna get some asperin if you don;t mind ;)
[20:30] <Eddie_6> Hi! Any thoughts on netbook edition vs "standard edition"? I'm considering one of them fro my netbook...
[20:30] <Slart> bambr: it ran the update-grub thing when you installed it , right?
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> Eddie_6: the UNE is optomised for small screens in a vertical sense
[20:30] <kholby> If I don't shut my laptop down before moving to a new location, it will not connect to any wireless networks at the new location.  Anyone else have this problem?
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> Eddie_6: although the firefox isnt very optomised and I'd use chromium instead
[20:31] <simar> But to my disguise I don;t have one ;(
[20:31] <simar> bluntu,
[20:31] <bluntu> simar:
[20:31] <hmw> ActionParsnip: i am indeed using find often, just had a typo. my synergy is killing my clipboard. argh
[20:31] <Slart> hmw: I just tried it on my machine and it seems to working fine here
[20:31] <hmw> utf vs iso8895-2 hell
[20:31] <Eddie_6> ActionParsnip: Do you know if it differs in power management, or is it same as normal ubuntu?
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> hmw: hehe, make scripts dude, makes life easier
[20:32] <hmw> Slart: try: make a folder, make 10 folders in that folder and put avis in these sub folders and then how do i select those?
[20:32] <Slart> hmw: you're not making any typos when searching?
[20:32] <Slart> hmw: that's roughly what I already have
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> Eddie_6: i'd imagine it would be similar if not identical. If you want a "normal" desktop then i'd use lubuntu as the cpu will work less and will save power
[20:33] <Slart> hmw: I search for "avi" or "doc" and get all the files that match that.. then drag drop to whereever I want
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> Eddie_6: if you have an atom cpu then there are some nicenesses for those in UNE
[20:33] <hmw> it stayed white. i dont think i mistyped *.avi
[20:33] <MaleXachi> s also a channel for aircrack backtrack or users?
[20:33] <hmw> i tried .avi also
[20:33] <Slart> hmw: try without the *.. oh.. odd
[20:33] <Pici> MaleXachi: #backtrack-linux
[20:33] <trupheenix> i'm having issues getting my touch pad working on Vaio. its not supporting vertical scrolling helo
[20:33] <trupheenix> help
[20:33] <MaleXachi> Okay, thanks again Pici
[20:33] <bluntu> how do I get a root prompt of my installation?
[20:33] <hmw> of course there is no undo for a find command...
[20:33] <mgolisch> Phantom_Hoover: use custom partitioning then and tell the installer not to format your / partition, or backup your userdata first
[20:34] <hmw> i am trying it again
[20:34] <Gumby-> trupheenix: be happy your touchpad even works.  lol.  I am installing on a vaio right now.  now touchpad, no X when I load nVidia drivers
[20:34] <trupheenix> Gumby-: please suggest fix
[20:34] <trupheenix> Gumby-: also no sound
[20:34] <Gumby-> bluntu: sudo -s
[20:34] <guntbert> hmw: just search for avi - nautilus seems to have no idea what * could mean
[20:34] <Gumby-> trupheenix: same here
[20:34] <hmw> Slart: just found out, it only looks in the current dir. how do i make it recurse the subdirs?
[20:35] <Eddie_6> ActionParsnip: Yes I have an Atom processor. Well gonna have to meditate over this one a while. Thanks for the enlightenment!
[20:35] <SailorReality> my CD didnt install
[20:35] <SailorReality> it just said checking battery states and stalled
[20:35] <hmw> oops
[20:35] <Slart> hmw: well.. I tried searching for "avi" and ".avi", those both worked.. "*.avi" doesn't work on my system.. not sure if wildcards are accepted in that find box
[20:35] <bastid_raZor> bluntu: sudo -i is the preferred method
[20:35] <hmw> it shows the subs, at the end
[20:35] <Phantom_Hoover> mgolisch: I have already backed up my data, and I want it to overwrite the old partition.
[20:35] <bluntu> Gumby- How can I enter sudo whatever if tehr eis no prompt?
[20:35] <Gumby-> trupheenix: also, installing from CD was VERY slow.  Installing from USB stick was VERY fast
[20:35] <guntbert> bluntu: what are you trying to d
[20:35] <guntbert> do?
[20:35] <SailorReality> not sure if its stalling but took 15 minutes without doing anything
[20:35] <SailorReality> did it stall?
[20:36] <Gumby-> bluntu: where are you exactly in the OS?
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> Gumby-: trupheenix: also if you use the alternate you do not have to load a full x server to install so is faster still :)
[20:36] <bluntu> guntbert Gumby- I have this problem: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/111396
[20:36] <simar> trupheenix, whats the issue??
[20:36] <SailorReality> HAlo
[20:36] <hmw> Slart: thanks.
[20:36] <bluntu> guntbert Gumby- and I don;t get the solution there
[20:36] <trupheenix> simar: two problems. 1) no sound 2) touchpad isn't supporting scrolling
[20:36] <guntbert> !here | bluntu
[20:37] <simar> bluntu have you tried "Safe graphics mode" under graphics mode of the menu that you get in the pic you uploaded??
[20:37] <jamesanelay> Sorry to be a pain guys, I couldn't fix it, anybody who can help me out with fixing the screen resolution after moving from windows if you would mind pming me that would be great :D
[20:37] <abetterswordfish> How do I download a svg file to use as an icon for a program?
[20:37] <simar> trupheenix, Take the second first..
[20:37] <bluntu> simar: no, will try that now. But I really think I need to find a solution to this here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/111396
[20:38] <simar> trupheenix, although there are many bugs filed with this ...
[20:38] <trupheenix> simar: hmm?
[20:38] <Gumby-> trupheenix: simple fix really... return the Vaio  :P
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> abetterswordfish: create a launcher then click on the icon button and set it as the svg
[20:38] <simar> bluntu, you should try that too..
[20:38] <Slart> hmw: you might want to look at the gnome-panel applet for searching for files.. it feels more.. complete, if you ask me
[20:39] <bluntu> simar: safe graphics mode is not an option here
[20:39] <guntbert> bluntu: you were asking about sudo without "prompt" - what were you trying to do with that?
[20:39] <daniel_> hey guys I have downloaded a font folder, in the font folder is it loads fonts files but all names end with .pcf.gz example  kates-bold.pcf.gz how do I install all fonts? easiest
[20:39] <hmw> I'll do
[20:39] <abetterswordfish> the svg is located at http://kde-files.org/content/show.php/World+of+Warcraft+Icon+%28SVG%29?content=41569 how do i download it?
[20:39] <trupheenix> Gumby-: i told my friend to buy a Dell or Mac but she wanted a Vaio :)
[20:39] <bluntu> guntbert I am trying to do this: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/111396
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> daniel_: they may need extracting
[20:39] <Gumby-> trupheenix: if I can get this one working I'll like it.  Otherwise, I have two weeks to return it  :D
[20:39] <simar> bluntu, Then what options do you get in Modes(F4) List all for me...
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> !font | daniel_
[20:39] <daniel_> yeah but I need to extract all and that gonna take time :S
[20:39] <trupheenix> simar: ????
[20:39] <abetterswordfish> I can't just right click and save it
[20:40] <guntbert> bluntu: and where does sudo fit into that picture?
[20:40] <hmw> Slart: wow... that looks almost as if i could do almost anything i was doing with find before... not good. I need to keep practising find... *smirks*
[20:40] <bluntu> simar: Normal, Use driver update disc, OEM install
[20:40] <simar> trupheenix,Have you enabled that in Preferences > Mouse..
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> abetterswordfish: http://kde-files.org/CONTENT/content-files/41569-wow-icon-scalable.svg
[20:40] <Slart> hmw: I'm sorry.. I'll make sure to never recommend it again ;)
[20:40] <hmw> heheh
[20:41] <bluntu> guntbert: nowhere, that is the problem, people told me to use sudo, but I can;t see how that helps me.... I am stuck here: "You can get one from the Live CD mounting your root FS to some folder" don;t know what that means
[20:41] <SailorReality> im gonna install Ubuntu on a virtual machine
[20:41] <abetterswordfish> I got that, but how do i save it, a simple right click does not seem to work
[20:41] <Gumby-> guntbert: he was first asking how to get to a root prompt, so I told him sudo -s.  I dont think that is his problem, from the page he pasted it seems like grub is broken and he cant boot
[20:41] <simar> trupheenix, Can you do vertical scroll or both inactive...
[20:41] <SailorReality> good idea?
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> SailorReality: sure, why not :)
[20:41] <bambr> Slart: no luck :(
[20:41] <bluntu> Gumby- exactly!
[20:41] <trupheenix> simar: it is enabled
[20:41] <jamesanelay> why is my resolution capped at 800x600 from moving to windows when I could get much more on windows?
[20:41] <trupheenix> simar: but it's not working
[20:41] <Gumby-> bluntu: the problem is with your initial question.  Forget sudo now
[20:41] <bluntu> Gumby- yup, I know
[20:41] <daniel_> !multiverse
[20:41] <bambr> Slart: from what i've seen in generated file, it takes hd(0,1) as root device :(
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> jamesanelay: you have the driver installed and configured in windows, but not in Ubuntu
[20:42] <mgolisch> didnt bluntu  tried to install ubuntu from a pendrive?
[20:42] <mgolisch> how is that related to fixing an existing installs grub?
[20:42] <Slart> bambr: hmm.. that can't be good.. why did it do that?
[20:42] <bluntu> mgolisch: still trying to do that
[20:42] <jamesanelay> how can I find out what driver it is and install it ? ActionParsnip?
[20:42] <bambr> Slart: no clue
[20:42] <simar> trupheenix, both vertical as well as horizontal scroll not working??
[20:42] <daniel_> umm I how do i extract  it ? actionparsnip ? :S I tried tar xzfv
[20:42] <hmw> I keep pressing SHIFT-DEL while renaming files, due to a many year long habbit from another OS. I don't want to get asked when I delete to Trash, unfortunately turning that off also turns off the security question with SHIFT-DEL. Can I either make "delete instantly" have a question or disable that short cut?
[20:42] <Slart> bambr: can you pastebin the output from "sudo update-grub" ?
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> jamesanelay: run: lspci | grep -i vga      websearch for the output to find guides
[20:42] <trupheenix> simar: yes
[20:42] <bluntu> mgolisch: I think the grub is already partly installed during a previous install that went wrong.
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> daniel_: just double click it, see whats  inside
[20:43] <oCean_> hmw: is 'locate' not an option for you?
[20:43] <simar> you should check in Prefrerences>Pointing devices as well
[20:43] <daniel_> cant :/ I dont run gdm or gnome.
[20:43] <hmw> oCean_: not while i am using nautilus
[20:43] <daniel_> I just have got file-roller
[20:43] <oCean_> hmw: ah, ok :)
[20:43] <rizla_cr0w> ooo errr wasn't expecting this. Is ther a channel to help me use irc chat?
[20:43] <daniel_> but I think its a exension I havent ?
[20:43] <hmw> oCean_: but thanks, i checked it out already
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> daniel_: gunzip file    they are not tar files, just gzipped files
[20:43] <bluntu> could some one explain me what this sentence means: "You can get one from the Live CD mounting your root FS to some folder" on this page: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/111396
[20:43] <daniel_> ok
[20:43] <trupheenix> any one help me with sound on Vaio?
[20:44] <trupheenix> ubuntu is using Alsa or Pulse Audio?
[20:44] <bambr> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu.com/457019/
[20:44] <Slart> trupheenix: both
[20:44] <Slart> trupheenix: they are not alternatives.. pulseaudio is a layer on top of alsa
[20:44] <bluntu> what is my root FS?
[20:44] <trupheenix> Slart: i think i will re build alsa and try
[20:44] <Black_Prince> bluntu: Root FS is partition where is your OS installed
[20:45] <bambr> Slart: and that is content of /etc/default/grub -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/457020/
[20:45] <simar> trupheenix, If not you should file a bug instead..
[20:45] <Gumby-> trupheenix: ubuntu is probably just using the wrong audio output.  I dont think also needs to be rebuilt (but I could be wrong)
[20:45] <MrStein> Can Ubuntu 10.4 Live be "installed" in a separate directory on an USB stick, so I could have both 32 and 64 bit versions?
[20:45] <daniel_> what is gunzip? :S
[20:45] <Gumby-> trupheenix: alsamixer detects the card
[20:45] <trupheenix> Gumby-: hmmm what u mean? where can i set it from?
[20:45] <trupheenix> Gumby-: yea it's an intel HDA
[20:45] <mgolisch> bluntu: that thing is totaly unrelated to your problem
[20:45] <daniel_> is it  a extension to which program? :S
[20:46] <mgolisch> bluntu: or do you have ubuntu installed allready?
[20:46] <simar> Slart, I request you to please help trupheenix file a bug for his touchpad using apport. I'm not sure how to...
[20:46] <bluntu> mgolisch it is related, because it exaclty the error I get
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> daniel_: its an unzipping program
[20:46] <daniel_> ok its called gunzip?.
[20:46] <Black_Prince> bluntu, you updated your system, and got that error?
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> daniel_: thats the fellah
[20:46] <nUboon2Age> rizla_cr0w:  please pop back over to #ubuntu-beginners and i'll chat w/ you to provide whatever help i can.
[20:46] <bluntu> mgolisch: I think my situation is as follows: HD with windows XP, Pendrive with ubuntu and a broken GRUB
[20:47] <help_plz> Can someone help me set up a wireless connection on uBuntunu
[20:47] <bluntu> Black_Prince: I am trying to install ubuntu and wipe my HD from Windows
[20:47] <Slart> simar: not right now
[20:47] <daniel_> haha thanks I founded out
[20:47] <daniel_> brb
[20:47] <Black_Prince> bluntu: are you now on live cd, or on windows?
[20:47] <Gumby-> trupheenix: did your mouse at least partially work out of the box?
[20:47] <Slart> bambr: can you pastebin /boot/grub/grub.cfg too?
[20:48] <bluntu> mgolisch & Black_Prince: my internal cd-drive is broken, that's why I use a pendrive
[20:48] <abetterswordfish> How do I fix notification, they seem to be messed up everytime i boot
[20:48] <bluntu> Black_Prince: I am now trying to boot from the USB, but that doesn't work
[20:48] <abetterswordfish> Right now I have two sound notification
[20:48] <trupheenix> Gumby-: touch pad is working but I cant edge scroll using it
[20:48] <trupheenix> Gumby-: also i cant find the Xorg conf file
[20:48] <Gumby-> trupheenix: well thats more than I have.  lol
[20:48] <Black_Prince> bluntu, so you booted into linux with pendrive
[20:48] <Gumby-> trupheenix: the default X doesnt use one.
[20:49] <help_plz> Can someone help me set up a wireless connection on uBuntunu
[20:49] <bluntu> Black_Prince: yes, but only into the install menu
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> !ask | help_plz
[20:49] <bluntu> Black_Prince when trying to boot the computer hangs and giveds me the error on this page https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/111396
[20:49] <bambr> Slart: here you are -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/457022/
[20:49] <help_plz> Does anyone know how to set up a wireless connection on ubuntu
[20:49] <trupheenix> Gumby-: hmmm
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> help_plz: use network manager, scan for networks and connect
[20:50] <Black_Prince> bluntu, I saw it ... I only ask can you get to some terminal, like ubuntu terminal, or live cd terminal ...
[20:50] <Slart> bambr: I'll have a look and see if I can find anything useful, I'll get back to you in a couple of minutes
[20:50] <bambr> Slart: okay
[20:50] <trupheenix> Gumby-: why doesnt Sony use standard stuff like Dell and HP so that everything just works!
[20:50] <Gumby-> trupheenix: you can just create one if you like
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> trupheenix: so they lock you in and you have to buy more sony rubbish
[20:50] <bluntu> @everyone: I just seem to have booted: In a desperate moment I just checked ALL the option under the 'extra options' menu
[20:50] <trupheenix> ActionParsnip: ok
[20:51] <Gumby-> trupheenix: well, its easy to be "standard" when you are the larger companies. Because the software industry often uses them as the standard because they have the most products out there
[20:51] <help_plz> actionparsnip how do i scan for networks?
[20:51] <bluntu> Black_Prince: I am now in the installer for some wierd reason
[20:51] <bluntu> it worked
[20:51] <Gumby-> trupheenix: to my knowledge the sony TP is just an ALPS touchpad
[20:51] <bambr> Slart: the first thing which is wrong there, to my mind, is that it uses (hd0,1) while it should be (hd0,0)
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> help_plz: its part of network manager, if you left click it you will see networks (I assume you have drivered your wireless)
[20:52] <bluntu> ok, next problem
[20:52] <bluntu> I am in the installer (booted from a pendrive) but the installer only sees the pendrive in step 4 of 7. Can;t find the internal HD...
[20:53] <trupheenix> Gumby-: how do I figure out?
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> bluntu: look under the places mnu
[20:53] <Jordan_U> bluntu: What is the output of "cat /proc/cmdline"?
[20:53] <Slart> bambr: yes.. but I have the same on my system.. odd.. it says in the manual that partition numbers start a 0.. very strange
[20:53] <bluntu> only lists my pendrive
[20:53] <bluntu> ActionParsnip
[20:53] <simar> bluntu, you got the installer running .. Good but how??
[20:54] <bluntu> simar: in the extra options menu I selected ALL the options :)
[20:54] <N0redemption> hi
[20:54] <help_plz> ActionParsnip: It says wireless disabled
[20:54] <simar> bluntu, good now you are done ..
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> help_plz: ok then run: sudo lshw -C netowork | grep -i product    one line will be your wireless, use that output to find guides
[20:54] <mgolisch> bluntu: whats is that hdd? sata ide scsi?
[20:54] <bluntu> simar: nah, not yet: the installer doesn't recognize the internal HD
[20:54] <help_plz> alright
[20:54] <bambr> Slart: i've run upgrade-from-grub-legacy, will try now
[20:54] <bluntu> simar: but the diskutility does!
[20:55] <help_plz> and thene after that?
[20:55] <bambr> rebooting
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> network, not netowork
[20:55] <bluntu> mgolisch: ATA
[20:55] <mgolisch> bluntu: what is diskutility?
[20:55] <Slart> bambr: I wonder if the "search" command that comes right after the "set root" command is supposed to figure out which partition to boot from.. so that the "set root" stuff doesn't have to use the correct partition number..
[20:56] <bluntu> mgolisch: The build in Disk Utility of Ubuntu
[20:56] <connex> I think there is a bug in VIM. Mapping macro like this:map g Iblabla bla^[o^[ . should work fine if i press g, however if i press 2g it doesn't work as expected, am i doing something wrong?
[20:56] <bluntu> if I want to erase a ATA 40Gb HD for Ubuntu installation: which format should I then choose? Ext4?
[20:57] <NoRedemption> DBAN
[20:57] <Jordan_U> bluntu: Do you care about being able to read it from windows?
[20:57] <bambr> Slart: yay, it did the job :)
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> bluntu: ext4 is default, i'd go with that
[20:57] <bluntu> ok, thnx
[20:57] <simar> bluntu,  if you choose ext4 you will not be able use see that in your windows system..
[20:57] <Slart> bambr: bah.. they've changed the partition numbering in the new grub.. partitions now start at 1... grrrr.. was that really necessary? *shakes fist at grub developers*
[20:57] <Slart> bambr: it's working?
[20:58] <icehawk78> Is there any sort of package that provides a way to run a speedtest on my machine over ssh?
[20:58] <bluntu> I want to erase windows, so that is fine! Ext4 it is then
[20:58] <bambr> Slart: yup :)
[20:58] <simar> bluntu, yes thats fine
[20:58] <help_plz> ACtionSnarsnip: Is that all I need to do?
[20:58] <bluntu> simar: whit can't erase, the device is busy
[20:58] <Slart> bambr: yay.. that command probably updated the numbering somewhere to the "new grub 2 numbering"-standard =)
[20:58] <help_plz> Par*
[20:58] <bluntu> ... buh... every solution brings a new problem
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> help_plz: you need to use the internet to search for guide based on that output
[20:59] <bambr> Slart: dunno, but now it works, anyway, had to upgrade to grub2 first
[20:59] <mgolisch> bluntu: it probably has some of its partitions mounted
[20:59] <bronek> hi
[20:59] <bluntu> mgolisch but I can;t see to unmount it
[21:00] <bambr> Slart: thanks a lot mate :) also it was all written on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 so I could have googled btter from the start :)
[21:00] <simar> bluntu, right click on all drives on desktop and select unmount
[21:00] <Jordan_U> bluntu: What is the output of "cat /proc/cmdline"?
[21:00] <Slart> bambr: it's always easy when you know the answer =)
[21:00] <Slart> bambr: you're welcome
[21:01] <mgolisch> bluntu: if you open a terminal does the mount command show any mounted filesystems on that disk?
[21:01] <bluntu> Jordan_U do you have a minute: I have to type it over
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> is the package 'indictor-me' th thing which adds the user management thing in the top right near the logoff button?
[21:03] <abetterswordfish> Is there a way I can have ubuntu auto-mount my windows partion?
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> !fstab | abetterswordfish
[21:04] <bluntu> BOOT_IMAGE=/casper/vmlinuz noprompt cdrom-detect/try-usb=true persistent file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper only-ubiquity initrd=/casper/initrd.lz quiet splash - - priority=low acpi=off noapic nolapic edd=on nodmraid nomodeset apt-setup/restricted=false apt-setup/multiverse=false
[21:04] <abetterswordfish> Alright, that should work
[21:04] <bluntu> Jordan_U that is it
[21:05] <bluntu> Jordan_U  now what?
[21:05] <abetterswordfish> One other thing, the "splash scree" (purple with dots) is the wrong resolution?
[21:05] <_newbie_> hello
[21:05] <abetterswordfish> Hi there
[21:05] <luddite1811> I have an ubuntu server 10.04 with LVM and I increased the virtual disk size from 8 gb to 60 gb, do I need to run specific lvm commands within the os to increase the size visible within ubuntu or will inflating the disk through the esxi vsphere client do it?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> abetterswordfish: http://wwww.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1472951    3rd post
[21:07] <mgolisch> luddite1811: unless you grow the lvm partition it wont do anything it still is 8gb or whatever it was before
[21:07] <bluntu> hwo can I force a drive to quit? I get : "cannot unmount because file system on device is busy"
[21:07] <mgolisch> bluntu: any filebrowsers open?
[21:08] <bluntu> nah
[21:08] <bluntu> mgolisch
[21:08] <PigeonCluster> bluntu, you can't force it. however you can use 'lsof' to find out what's using it
[21:08] <mgolisch> bluntu: also are you sure its the disk and not the stick?
[21:08] <PigeonCluster> bluntu, 'lsof /path/to/mountpoint'
[21:08] <bluntu> mgolisch yeah, my disk is 40gb and the usb only 4gb. I want to unmount the harddisk
[21:09] <PigeonCluster> bluntu, what i said applies regardless
[21:09] <pippero> salve raga
[21:09] <guntbert> !it | pippero
[21:09] <abetterswordfish> is there a way to change the window title bar transparcy without installing ubuntu tweak?
[21:10] <vodl> hi, can anyone tell me how to "make from source"? i got the RAR for linux here http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm and have a bunch of files and a makefile but don't know how to make it install. thanks
[21:10] <bluntu> PigeonCluster: output is: "lsof: WARNING: can't stat() tmpfs file system /cow Output information might be incomplete
[21:10] <PigeonCluster> bluntu, run it as root
[21:10] <guntbert> !compile | vodl
[21:10] <PigeonCluster> bluntu, uses superuser-only system calls to find all processes using a directory. it can find some when not superuser, but not all
[21:10] <_newbie_> someone help me with gadmin.proftpd ??
[21:10] <bluntu> PigeonCluster same error
[21:11] <_newbie_> i cant activate it
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> abetterswordfish: you can use emerald, you can get a theme with that if you wish
[21:11] <PigeonCluster> abetterswordfish, you can change it at all? news to me. and very good news, i wanted to do that 5 minutes ago
[21:11] <slidinghorn> !details | _newbie_
[21:11] <N0redemption> well
[21:11] <abetterswordfish> yeah you can change it with ubuntu  tweak but I dont really wanna install that
[21:11] <abetterswordfish> I guess its not that bad to install it
[21:11] <N0redemption> bluntu do you use windows?
[21:11] <bluntu> I am trying to wipe an internal HD. I started up from an USB. The internal HD can;t be unmounted. Any help here?
[21:12] <bluntu> NOredemption: no, Ubuntu
[21:12] <N0redemption> well you can use dban
[21:12] <bluntu> N0redemption: ubuntu 10.04 from a pendrive
[21:12] <bluntu> what is dban?
[21:12] <slidinghorn> bluntu...do it from a livecd
[21:12] <PigeonCluster> bluntu, why is it mounted?
[21:12] <N0redemption> a disk wiper
[21:12] <_newbie_> ubottu,  i want configure a ftp-server , i have the ftp server online but i want to configure it with (gadmin-proftpd) but the status is always (disconnected) and i cant change,taht
[21:12] <abstrakt> can someone tell me the command to install ardour?
[21:12] <abstrakt> i'm not on my ubuntu box right now
[21:12] <abstrakt> is it apt-get install ardour2?
[21:12] <abstrakt> or just ardour?
[21:12] <Slart> bluntu: if you managed to boot from the usb you should be able to unmount the internal hard drive
[21:12] <mgolisch> find out what still uses the mounted filesystem
[21:12] <bluntu> slidinghorn can't use cd's
[21:13] <PigeonCluster> abstrakt, 'apt-cache search ardour' will tell you
[21:13] <Slart> abstrakt: try apt-cache search ardour
[21:13] <PigeonCluster> Slart, beat ya to it!
[21:13] <bluntu> PigeonCluster: no idea.. it just is... and won;t unmount
[21:13] <abstrakt> PigeonCluster: apparently u guys didn't read my question...
[21:13] <Slart> PigeonCluster: =)
[21:13] <bluntu> Slart: and what if I can;t?
[21:13] <N0redemption> well take another pc and boot dban on it
[21:13] <slidinghorn> abstrakt, it's just ardour
[21:13] <PigeonCluster> abstrakt, yes we did. if you meant something different, then ask something different
[21:13] <Slart> !info ardour
[21:13] <N0redemption> the hd should be wiped
[21:13] <Slart> !info ardour2
[21:13] <_newbie_> theres any program for configure the ftp-files ?? and users... ??
[21:14] <Slart> abstrakt: I'm guessing   ardour   is the package name =)
[21:14] <PigeonCluster> bluntu, BE VERY VERY CAREFUL OF DBAN!!!!!!
[21:14] <guntbert> abstrakt: sudo apt-get install ardour - usually type part of the name and then pressing <tab> gives the remaining possibilities
[21:14] <bluntu> PigeonCluster I don;t know what DBAN is...
[21:14] <abstrakt> !info ardour
[21:14] <N0redemption> well of course backup your data first!
[21:14] <abstrakt> great, that's a nice feature
[21:14] <abstrakt> !info ams
[21:14] <abstrakt> !info hydrogen
[21:14] <Slart> bluntu: dban is a live cd that automagically wipes all hard drives connected to the computer when you use it
[21:14] <abstrakt> cool
[21:14] <PigeonCluster> bluntu, it's an nsa-safe disk data destroyer. all devices will be written with random data 5 times over. on boot. without any options. just having it in the cd drive on boot will do it!
[21:15] <abstrakt> !info rosegarden
[21:15] <bluntu> PigeonCluster I can;t use cd's on this computer
[21:15] <mgolisch> all he wants is to install ubuntu
[21:15] <guntbert> !askthebot | abstrakt
[21:15] <slidinghorn> abstrakt, you can take that to a PM with the bot....don't abuse the bots in the room
[21:15] <Slart> bluntu: it's very handy for when you want to clear lots of computers without spending lots of time on each of them
[21:15] <mgolisch> right?
[21:15] <_newbie_> ???
[21:15] <N0redemption> well you need to write autonuke in first
[21:15] <bluntu> Slart I can;t use cd;s on this computer
[21:15] <abstrakt> does the bot have a help file?
[21:15] <abstrakt> i tried help, but it didn't respond
[21:15] <guntbert> !who | N0redemption
[21:15] <slidinghorn> !factoid > abstrakt
[21:15] <Slart> bluntu: I figurar that much.. but you asked what dban was
[21:15] <YoJack> _default_ VirtualHost overlap can anyone help me with that
[21:16] <Slart> bluntu: do you get some kind of error when you try to unmount the internal hard drive?
[21:16] <bluntu> yes
[21:16] <mgolisch> bluntu: did you try the lsof on the mountpoint? alternatively you can just write a new partitiontable with fdisk and reboot from the stick
[21:16] <N0redemption> bluntu: wipe that disk!
[21:16] <bluntu> HOW?!
[21:16] <mgolisch> it wont be able to mount anything from the disk then
[21:16] <bluntu> I can;t wipe it if I can;t unmount it
[21:16] <N0redemption> bluntu: well boot dban
[21:16] <N0redemption> bluntu: autonuke...
[21:16] <bluntu> NOredemption: I can't use CD's!
[21:16] <N0redemption> bluntu: 1 hour later problem solfed
[21:16] <PigeonCluster> N0redemption, stop, he already said he can't use cds THREE TIMES
[21:16] <Slart> N0redemption: no cd drive..
[21:16] <abstrakt> is there a way to browse the package repositor without synaptic?
[21:17] <abstrakt> ideally browse + search
[21:17] <N0redemption> bluntu: u have a windows client and usb?
[21:17] <Slart> abstrakt: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> abstrakt: apt-cache search something
[21:17] <slidinghorn> abstrakt, apt-cache search searchterm
[21:17] <bluntu> Ok, I am gonna try to figure this out myself. Live chat is really great, but I am going circles trying to explain myself five times all the times
[21:17] <N0redemption> bluntu: well i just know it with windows
[21:17] <bluntu> thnx all but this is terrible...
[21:18] <jmichaelx> abstrakt: it would be worth your while to learn to use 'aptitude'
[21:18] <PigeonCluster> bluntu, i would boot into rescue mode on the flash drive, which will not mount anything but root. you can do this by pressing f6 before hitting enter on the boot screen, then hitting esc and typing "single"
[21:18] <N0redemption> bluntu: try unetbootin its awsome and handy
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> abstrakt: you can grep the output to reduce the output and make it more intelligent. Aptitude also has a terminal based gui
[21:18] <N0redemption> bluntu: try unetbootin its awsome and handy
[21:18] <PigeonCluster> N0redemption, just shut up, you're being very unhelpful
[21:18] <abstrakt> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[21:18] <abstrakt> no good :(
[21:18] <N0redemption> bluntu: its make usb sticks nearly automatic
[21:18] <abstrakt> i get a blank page
[21:18] <N0redemption> PigeonCluster: sorry
[21:18] <abstrakt> ActionParsnip: except i can't, since i'm on OSX right now
[21:18] <Slart> abstrakt: works here
[21:18] <luddite1811> anyone know what the commands are to increase the LVM partition size?
[21:18] <abstrakt> blah
[21:18] <vodl> thanks guntbert
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> !lvm
[21:19] <guntbert> vodl: you're welcome :-)
[21:19] <vodl> guntbert still looks insanely difficult, found something in the repos
[21:20] <guntbert> vodl: thats the recommended way :-)
[21:20] <guntbert> luddite1811: look at a complete lvm tutorial: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_lvm
[21:21] <bluntu_> The things is: I ask a very direct question to a problem, then people come with alternatives: changes are I already tried the alternatives and there is a REASON for the things I am doing. I tried Unetbootin last week. If you are so kind to help people on this chat, HELP THEM! and don't frustrate them with stupid ideas. If my car is broken, it is not an option to take a bicycle: I need my car fixed. The same goes here. I want to fix things!
[21:21] <gionnico> hello! i'm trying to make 10.5 livecd work !!!
[21:21] <vodl> guntbert still you run into plenty of people recommending compiling software so i had the idea it must be one command or something along those lines
[21:21] <bluntu_> sorry to rant...
[21:21] <gionnico> please tell me how i can use safemode
[21:21] <slidinghorn> !attitude
[21:21] <N0redemption> bluntu: didnt know that
[21:21] <N0redemption> bluntu: sorry dude
[21:21] <gionnico> safemode for X please!
[21:21] <luddite1811> guntbert thanks for the info
[21:21] <luddite1811> ubottu thanks also
[21:22] <gionnico> please tell me!
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> gionnico: hold shift at boot, then select it
[21:22] <gionnico> ActionParsnip: or if i'm already logged in
[21:22] <gionnico> but i cant use x
[21:22] <gionnico> but I can use console ActionParsnip ?
[21:22] <slidinghorn> startx
[21:22] <guntbert> vodl: ubunto has so much software in the repos - it really is rarely necessary to compile something yourself :-)
[21:22] <gionnico> what's the command to STOP Xorg?
[21:22] <gionnico> /etc/init.d/[x-X]* doesnt exist
[21:22] <slidinghorn> !enter | gionnico
[21:23] <guntbert> luddite1811: you're welcome :-) and happy reading
[21:23] <gionnico> ActionParsnip: shift when??
[21:23] <gionnico> after i said "try ubuntu without installing" ?
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> gionnico: before grub loads
[21:23] <gionnico> ActionParsnip: ...... no i'm talking of livecd
[21:23] <gionnico> there's no grub
[21:23] <slidinghorn> gionnico, stop using Enter as punctuation please.
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> gionnico: there is, grub boots the kernel
[21:24] <gionnico> slidinghorn: no it's just that i thought the second phrase 5 seconds after i typed the previous one
[21:24] <Slart> gionnico: sudo server gdm stop
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> gionnico: you can press space when the stickman shows and select safe video there using the options menu (I think its F6 but read the bottom bar)
[21:24] <Slart> gionnico: sorry.. sudo service gdm stop
[21:24] <luddite1811> would it be easier to go with ext3/4 instead of lvm for the ubuntu vm's we'll have? would I be able to extend these easier than with lvm?
[21:24] <N0redemption> bluntu: may i ask if you have a windows client?
[21:24] <_newbie_> how can i put (active status) in the gadmin-proftpd ??
[21:25] <bluntu_> N0redemption: you may, and sorry, I don't
[21:25] <guntbert> luddite1811: I always prefer LVM - once you get acquainted to it its really fun
[21:25] <N0redemption> bluntu: well and a friend who has one?
[21:25] <bluntu_> N0redemption: I have Ubuntu booted from a USB drive
[21:25] <bluntu_> The pendrive works fine
[21:25] <bluntu_> N0redemption: I am now trying to wipe the internal HD to install ubuntu
[21:26] <luddite1811> cool I was just curious as to the benefits of each in a virtual environment
[21:26] <bluntu_> N0redemption but the internal HD won;t unmount. SOmething is keeping it busy...
[21:26] <N0redemption> bluntu: do you have any other data on that hd?
[21:26] <N0redemption> bluntu: important data
[21:26] <bluntu_> I have a broken installation of XP I want to get rid of on that HD
[21:26] <bluntu_> No important data
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> bluntu_: then run: lsof | grep mountpoint   see what is using it
[21:26] <osmodivs> Is there a way to know wich version of ubuntu are you running from the TERMINAL?
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> osmodivs: lsb_release -a
[21:27] <osmodivs> thank you
[21:27] <N0redemption> bluntu: which media can you use beside usb?
[21:27] <vasuki> Just did a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. I not cannot activate proprietary drivers or write to my xorg.conf from the nvidia control panel. Manually editing files is np. Any ideas?
[21:27] <bluntu_> ActionParsnip: that gives me errors
[21:27] <bluntu_> N0redemption: none
[21:27] <trupheenix> damn!
[21:27] <bluntu_> N0redemption: USB is only option
[21:27] <trupheenix> how do i file bugs for this?
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> bluntu_: does:  lsof   output a tonne of text?
[21:27] <N0redemption> bluntu: you  have a second usbstick?
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> !bug | trupheenix
[21:27] <bluntu_> N0redemption: USB is fine
[21:28] <trupheenix> ActionParsnip: it's a hardware quirk. not so much a bug.
[21:28] <N0redemption> bluntu: well wipe the HD
[21:28] <mgolisch> id just zero the first 512byte of the disk
[21:28] <mgolisch> and reboot from the stick
[21:28] <mgolisch> it cant mount anything then
[21:28] <N0redemption> bluntu: you already did a boot usb or?
[21:28] <N0redemption> bluntu: in my opinion try using dban or any other wipe os
[21:28] <bluntu_> ActionParsnip "lsof: WARNING: can't stat() tmpfs file system /cow Output information might be incomplete"
[21:28] <slidinghorn> N0redemption, he can't wipe the HDD because he can't unmount it
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> bluntu_: you could boot to the ultimate boot cd and use the disk wiper there
[21:29] <osmodivs> is there a way to install a 64bit version if I have already installed 32 bit version?
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> bluntu_: ok then try:  sudo lsof | grep mountpoint
[21:29] <bluntu_> N0redemption: If I didn't know you were helping me I would think you are really trying to frsutrate me
[21:29] <N0redemption> bluntu: he cant make it under ubuntu or any other os?
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> osmodivs: no you must reinstall
[21:29] <osmodivs> <if i have Ubuntu 9.0, but want to upgrade to 10.04, is it possible?
[21:29] <sebersole> anyone else notice evolution taking a really long time and sometimes just "closing up shop" on Reply?
[21:30] <trupheenix> Gumby-: generally is there any specific sony vaio laptop u would recommend for running linux?
[21:30] <guntbert> osmodivs: there is no 9.0  - are you on 9.04?
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> osmodivs: you can upgrade 9.10 and 8.04 to 10.04, if you have 9.04 you must upgrade to 9.10 first
[21:30] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: 9.0? 9.04?  9.10?
[21:30] <Altreus> Hey my current locale is making my terminal use a weird encoding (ANSIX3.4-1968). How do I fix it?
[21:30] <N0redemption> bluntu: sorry i wanst on this irc that long
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | osmodivs
[21:30] <trupheenix> Gumby-: or should one just avoid Vaio at all costs?
[21:30] <N0redemption> bluntu: but still cant you unmount it on any destribution?
[21:31] <bluntu_> ActionParsnip: same output for lsof
[21:31] <Shinydan_> Trying to install 10.04 on an old Packard Bell laptop. It starts to install, gets through perhaps two lines of the install information, and then reboots. Any ideas?
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> bluntu_: sounds bad, lsof should output all open and in use files
[21:31] <sebsebseb> Shinydan_: How much RAM?
[21:31] <mgolisch> use sudo?
[21:31] <bluntu_> yes
[21:31] <guntbert> Shinydan_: did you check that the iso was ok?
[21:31] <osmodivs> Well, I was supose to help my cousin from another state, telling him what to do
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> Shinydan_: did you md5 test the iso you downloaded? Did you check the cd for defects once booted to?
[21:31] <kabal`court> hey why doesn't it work > http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/vMz5Jfyv < some1 pls help me
[21:31] <osmodivs> I think he has the last version of 9
[21:32] <mgolisch> like i suggested earlier id just write over the partitionztable and reboot from the stick
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> osmodivs: then s/he can upgrade to lucid
[21:32] <osmodivs> I'll check whe he connects again
[21:32] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: 9.04 is still supported untill the end of October, 9.10 is still supported untill the end of April next year.
[21:32] <osmodivs> he is rebooting
[21:32] <bluntu_> ActionParsnip: status error on l: no such file or directory, status error on grep: no such file or directory, status error on mountpoint: no such file or directory
[21:32] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: so probably no proper reason to upgrade to 10.04 really
[21:32] <Shinydan_> seb: Half a gig of ram. guntbert: not as yet. Parsnip: Not as yet. I shall do those things now.
[21:32] <osmodivs> I know this one: altf2
[21:32] <kabal`court> I need help setting the date on ubuntu server 8.4 >> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/vMz5Jfyv
[21:32] <Shinydan_> although I have just noticed something interesting...
[21:33] <sebsebseb> kabal`court: try #ubuntu-server
[21:33] <mgolisch> bluntu_: its | not l
[21:33] <guntbert> !md5sum | Shinydan_
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> kabal`court: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=5   shows the date command format so you can check your working
[21:33] <bluntu_> mgolisch: you mean 'one' instead of 'el'?
[21:33] <mgolisch> bluntu_: also you have to replace mountpoint with the actual directory the filesystem is mounted on
[21:33] <mgolisch> bluntu_: no thats the pipe symbol |
[21:33] <mgolisch> not 1
[21:34] <mgolisch> and not l
[21:34] <bluntu_> aha...
[21:34] <parag0n_> does anyone know how to convert a partition from msdos to gpt without losing all the data?
[21:34] <bluntu_> mgolisch could you maybe help me with that for a moment?
[21:34] <gionnico> hey7
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> Shinydan_: if the MD5 is wrong you have wasted a C and will explain why the install  is bad. Please MD5 test iso file BEFORE burning so youo know the data is good
[21:34] <gionnico> what is the button i have to press to choose language and settings in ubuntu livecd?
[21:34] <bluntu_> mgolisch how do I know what the mountpoint is?
[21:34] <gionnico> just after POST and UBUNTU livecd is loaded
[21:34] <Shinydan_> right.
[21:34] <gionnico> what is i should press within 2 seconds in order to get the boot menu?
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> bluntu_: i had no way of knowing the mountpoint, i thought you would have realisd the situation and changed the commands
[21:35] <gionnico> (with language selection locale, X options and kernel boot parameters??
[21:35] <ssssss> Hi
[21:35] <kabal`court> ActionParsnip: check my link before sending a new one?
[21:35] <gionnico> ENTER? ESC? when exactly??
[21:35] <gionnico> i can't see the screen
[21:35] <ssssss> How can I overwrite white space on my USB stick
[21:35] <bluntu_> ActionParsnip: sorry. Not to used to this yet
[21:35] <loopidity> how would i enable .htaccess on ubuntu?
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> kabal`court: i looked, you can check your working while I help others in here
[21:35] <sebsebseb> gionnico: I think its hold down esc whilst the computer boots
[21:35] <loopidity> ssssss what i did once was to create a new folder without spaces and mount the usb in it
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> gionnico: press space on the stickman screen and you can choose language there
[21:36] <kabal`court> ActionParsnip: i used the right format but it didnt work
[21:36] <osmodivs> he said that He can't get Ubuntu open, neither do Windows
[21:36] <mgolisch> bluntu_: the output of the mount command it should tell you, look for a line wich contains the device name of your disk (/dev/something)
[21:36] <osmodivs> He said something about error 15
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> kabal`court: ok cool, not sure then dude, its very weird
[21:37] <N0redemption> well im off
[21:37] <N0redemption> cya all again
[21:37] <shishire> grub 2 is configured to use shift by default I think?  Hold shift while booting to get a menu...
[21:37] <guntbert> kabal`court: use date -d to check the format
[21:37] <ssssss> I want to overwrite the free space on my USB stick with random chars. Is it possible to use the dd command for that?
[21:38] <kabal`court> guntbert: date: option requires an argument -- 'd'
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> ssssss: sure, thats what dd is good at, use    sudo dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/partition
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> ssssss: not sure about the free space thouh
[21:39] <guntbert> kabal`court: I thought you had read the man page - -d requires the same sort of string as -s, but displays it only instead of trying to set it
[21:39] <gionnico> sebsebseb: yes it was ESC
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> ssssss: that comand does the WHOLE partition
[21:39] <gionnico> now how i set default mode for X to safemode?
[21:39] <sebsebseb> gionnico: ok :)
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> ssssss: i think bleachbit can do it but not sure how to make it only do the usb
[21:39] <gionnico> F4 mode is not..
[21:39] <gionnico> F5 accessibility is not. F6 other options.....
[21:39] <ssssss> ActionParsnip, thx
[21:40] <gionnico> sebsebseb: my second question?
[21:40] <sebsebseb> gionnico: uhmm?  esc to show Grub I think
[21:40] <trupheenix> i've run into problem with grub2. i'm getting grub2 rescue prompt. any ideas how to boot windows using this?
[21:40] <kabal`court> guntbert: date -d string displayes w/e i set in the -s string
[21:40] <gionnico> sebsebseb: no i have start ubuntu withot installing, install ubuntu, check hard drive, start first hard drive
[21:40] <kabal`court> guntbert: but date by it self still returns different date
[21:41] <gionnico> F2 language F3 keymap F4 mode F5 accessibility F6 other options
[21:41] <abstrakt> !restricted
[21:41] <guntbert> kabal`court: yes, that was meant to check if your string is understood by the command
[21:41] <random222> Does anyone here have any experience opening large html files (>15 MB) with firefox?
[21:41] <gionnico> what's kernel BOOT PARAMETER TO START X IN SAFE MODE (FROM LIVECD) ?
[21:41] <kabal`court> guntbert: well then it was, but why it doesnt set the date?
[21:41] <abstrakt> random222: a 15M HTML file? wtf kind of file is that?
[21:41] <sebsebseb> gionnico: right, but once its installed, its installed, don't need to boot from a CD
[21:41] <gionnico> sebsebseb: it is NOT INSTALLED
[21:41] <abstrakt> random222: there's a reason that pagination was invented
[21:42] <sebsebseb> gionnico: so install it?
[21:42] <gionnico> sebsebseb: i need to start livecd's XORG IN SAFE MODE
[21:42] <random222> abstrakt: it's actually >800 html files combined into one
[21:42] <gionnico> sebsebseb: no i want only live environment
[21:42] <sebsebseb> gionnico: why?
[21:42] <guntbert> kabal`court: have you ntp enabled?
[21:42] <gionnico> sebsebseb: ... please just tell me
[21:42] <sebsebseb> gionnico: I don't think there are advanced options or any as such for the Live CD
[21:43] <abstrakt> "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubutu/pool/universe/l/lilypond/lilpond-doc 2.12.3-4 all.web Hash Sum mismatch
[21:43] <abstrakt> 4:39 EL Unable to fetch some archives"
[21:43] <abstrakt> what's up with that?
[21:43] <abstrakt> i just tried to install rosegarden
[21:43] <gionnico> sebsebseb: F6 tells apic noapic nodmraid, no-nonfree
[21:43] <sebsebseb> gionnico: basically install option and  try Ubuntu from CD option, and thats about it
[21:43] <gionnico> but where to put parameters? and what's the parameter?
[21:43] <abstrakt> well, i didn't... friend of mine did, i'm not on my ubuntu box right now
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> gionnico: http://media.photobucket.com/image/ubuntu%20live%20cd%20safe/indyank/techbliss/install-ubuntu-safe-graphics.jpg
[21:43] <gionnico> try ubuntu from CD without install is what i want but it doesnt start X correctly
[21:43] <gionnico> so i need to make it try safemode
[21:43] <sebsebseb> gionnico: uhmm
[21:43] <abstrakt> it doesn't say not found
[21:43] <abstrakt> it says hash sum mismatch
[21:44] <abstrakt> what gives?
[21:44] <sebsebseb> gionnico: if  try Ubuntu from Live CD option does not work, you have a problem
[21:44] <sebsebseb> gionnico: maybe a bad CD,  maybe just a computer that doesn't work well with Ubuntu
[21:44] <gionnico> sebsebseb: F4 should be,..
[21:44] <mgolisch> abstrakt: that means it wasnt downloaded correctly
[21:44] <mgolisch> abstrakt: mostlikely
[21:44] <gionnico> ActionParsnip: thanks.. but i didn't see the option for safe graphics......
[21:44] <abstrakt> mgolisch: yeh i figured
[21:44] <sebsebseb> gionnico: you shoudn't really need to do any of these other things,  try Ubuntu from  CD should just work
[21:44] <abstrakt> mgolisch: so i should just try again?
[21:44] <abstrakt> mgolisch: is there a cache i should clear or something?
[21:45] <Boogie0> whats the Ubuntu way of setting a locale without setting the language?
[21:45] <gionnico> ActionParsnip: why the HECK I ONLY HAVE 3 OPTIONS AND NO SAFE-MODE IN MODES (F4) ???!
[21:45] <mgolisch> abstrakt: you may need to delete it from /var/cache/apt/archives/ first
[21:45] <gionnico> sebsebseb: it does not
[21:45] <daniel> hey guys why are arch linux so popular?.
[21:46] <abstrakt> mgolisch: is it bad to clear that entire folder?
[21:46] <abstrakt> sudo rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/*
[21:46] <abstrakt> ?
[21:46] <guntbert> !ot | daniel
[21:46] <sebsebseb> daniel: since thats a good distro for proper Linux geeks
[21:46] <gionnico> sebsebseb: i guess i need the alternate cd to get that stupid option
[21:46] <k0d3g3ar> daniel, it is?  that's news to me
[21:46] <dasmalty> Did anyone experience ubuntu (fresh install, 2.6.32-22-generic) freezing for ca. 15 seconds, then rebooting - randomly?
[21:46] <gionnico> if i only knew the kernel parameter.. oh stupid standard cd
[21:46] <sebsebseb> daniel: who want to set loads of stuff up themselves, before they can use the system properly
[21:46] <mgolisch> abstrakt: no idea, it might contain other stuff, never tried that
[21:46] <abstrakt> hmm
[21:46] <gionnico> "Safe graphics mode" someone know the parameter name?
[21:46] <abstrakt> k
[21:46] <daniel> I just wonder :)
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> !caps | gionnico
[21:46] <k0d3g3ar> daniel, I think you've been misinformed
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> abstrakt: just use: sudo apt-get clean
[21:46] <osmodivs> Does anyone knows what error 15 means, he ssaid something about file not found, after rebooting
[21:47] <gionnico> and how to get the kernel parameter shell from standard livecd (x86_64)?
[21:47] <daniel> ok :) kod3g3ar
[21:47] <daniel> :)
[21:47] <sebsebseb> gionnico: if the Live CD does not work properly, your install won't either probably
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> gionnico: you could try the boot option:  vga=791
[21:47] <Slart> osmodivs: upgraded to 10.04?
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | gionnico
[21:47] <osmodivs> Is there a command in the termianl so he can write it from the live CD and know whats happening?
[21:48] <osmodivs> No, my cousin said he cannot open Ubuntu or Windows
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> osmodivs: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1470597   seems the file defined cannot be found
[21:48] <guntbert> !grub2 | osmodivs
[21:48] <gionnico> ActionParsnip: vga=791 == safe-mode graphics from F4 (modes) ??
[21:49] <gionnico> because i dont have that stupid option
[21:49] <guntbert> osmodivs: on that page you can find an explanation if erro 15
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> gionnico: not sure, seems to crop up in bing quite a lot when I searched
[21:49] <osmodivs> Yeah, but he installed the 9 version
[21:49] <osmodivs> so, I don know if he can repair it
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> gionnico: you need to use the factoid link to find out how to edit the kernel line to add it
[21:49] <sebsebseb> Shinydan_: still here?
[21:50] <gionnico> ActionParsnip: i saw that link
[21:50] <gionnico> looks like it will just work with F6
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> gionnico: there are thousands of boot options so having a menu item for each isnt feasible
[21:50] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: Live CD
[21:50] <osmodivs> he is in the LIVE CD
[21:50] <osmodivs> but what to do from there?
[21:50] <guntbert> kabal`court: I repeat my question: did you enable network time (ntpd)?
[21:50] <gionnico> ActionParsnip: you yourself posted me an image of that option what are you talking about?!
[21:50] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: ok Live CD can be used to fix that error  I guess.  it can also be used to get hold of the data
[21:51] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: then can do a clean install of 10.04
[21:51] <vladimirm> no signal on monitor after removing my ati radeon 9800 pro and connectiong the monitor to integrated intel. what to do?
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> gionnico: it may be an older version with that option in by default
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> gionnico: its not from my pc
[21:51] <osmodivs> so, He has to download 10.04, burn it and then install?
[21:51] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: thats one way to do it sure
[21:51] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: to solve the problem
[21:51] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: probably also the most easiest
[21:52] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: and good idea to check the Ubuntu ISO is good before using it
[21:52] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | osmodivs
[21:52] <sebsebseb> !hashes | osmodivs
[21:52] <gionnico> ActionParsnip: i have 10.5
[21:52] <osmodivs> all right, thank you
[21:52] <gionnico> they must have removed it from 10.4
[21:52] <gionnico> that's BAD
[21:53] <abstrakt> still getting "hash sum mismatch"
[21:53] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: and setting up a seperate /home before installing is rather useful as well
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> gionnico: i have no idea what version that screenshot is from
[21:53] <osmodivs> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ lsb_release -a
[21:53] <osmodivs> No LSB modules are available.
[21:53] <osmodivs> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[21:53] <osmodivs> Description:	Ubuntu 9.04
[21:53] <osmodivs> Release:	9.04
[21:53] <FloodBot2> osmodivs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:53] <osmodivs> Codename:	jaunty
[21:53] <abetterswordfish> How do I get youtube videos to run full screen on 64 bit ubuntu 10.04
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> gionnico: you can add boot options manually, just read the link ubottu gave
[21:53] <tim_> hey. please HELP!. I just installed Ubuntu 9.10 on my HP Pavilon zv6000 laptop and now the keyboard and touchpad won't respond!! I had Ubuntu 10.04 installed before and it worked great. I had to revert because my ubuntu 10.04 disk was defective and I didn't have internet at the time. can any one make any suggerstions?
[21:53] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: ok 9.04 not 9.10
[21:53] <gionnico> i'll try xforcevesa
[21:54] <Slart> abetterswordfish: you don't.. not on any normal machine, at least
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> tim_: try the i8024.reset boot option
[21:54] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: 9.04 is still good for now :)
[21:54] <Slart> abetterswordfish: of course.. you could download them and play them using vlc or something.. that works
[21:54] <abetterswordfish> That's a real bummer...
[21:54] <SuperMiguel> after installing idle-python2.6 how do i run it??
[21:54] <guntbert> !maverick | abetterswordfish
[21:54] <guntbert> abetterswordfish: sorry
[21:54] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: except the Grub error, which happended when exactly? upgrading from something?
[21:54] <Slart> abetterswordfish: I'm not sure how well chrome does with youtube and html5.. haven't tried it myself
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> abetterswordfish: you will need hardware accelleration and it will run fine
[21:55] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: anyway not sure if you can type again yet, but if not soon you will,  FloodBot2  got you since you flooded the channel
[21:55] <Boogie0> how can I set my locales (date format, time format, number format i.e.) to a locale format without changing the default language?
[21:55] <Guest_000> new question: can you interchange shell scripts between mac os x and ubuntu
[21:55] <littlepenguin> hi i have set up a sambaserver and its working fine except the use of users..when i allow everybody its accessable but when i want to use smbguest f.e. the pw request shows up but its  not accepting the user entered as configured..i tried several options with @workgroup ip\smbguest netbiosname\smbguest ..dunno..my firewall is configured correctly because without the use of useroptions its working
[21:55] <osmodivs> he was installing Ubuntu for the first time
[21:55] <abetterswordfish> O rly? how do I get hardware accleration
[21:55] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: ok, but what you showed me was 9.04 info
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> abetterswordfish: video drivers
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> abetterswordfish: if you run: lspci | grep -i vga   you can websearch for the output
[21:56] <littlepenguin> the share folder is the owner smbguest
[21:56] <tim_> ActionParsnip, How?
[21:56] <trism> SuperMiguel: should be under Applications/Programming, if not run idle-python2.6 in a terminal
[21:56] <tim_> ActionParsnip, in the grub boot menu?
[21:56] <abetterswordfish> is there a good all in one codec package?
[21:56] <gionnico> vga=791 xforcevesa to kernel parameters didn't help, i have blank screen with horizontal stripes when x starts
[21:56] <SuperMiguel> trism, nup :( idle-python doesnt work
[21:57] <gionnico> but i can press CTRL+ALT+F1 . some help from there to get a working X ?
[21:57] <sebsebseb> abetterswordfish: not exactly, but if you do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restriced-extras you get AVI support MP3 and such
[21:57] <trism> SuperMiguel: idle-python2.6
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> tim_: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub     add the option in the quotes in the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT part, then run:  sudo update-grub
[21:57] <sebsebseb> abetterswordfish: and if you want to play commercial DVD's wel
[21:57] <sebsebseb> !medibuntu | abetterswordfish
[21:57] <\u03b5> hi, I need help helping someone with no sound on PA
[21:58] <luddite1811> I went into the Ubuntu server vm and ran the lvextend -L60G /dev/mapper/homevol command
[21:58] <Boogie0> Gues_t000, not generally but some will work on both
[21:58] <luddite1811> and it states that there aren't enough extents
[21:58] <sebsebseb> luddite1811: #ubuntu-server support in that channel
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> abetterswordfish: theres also w32codecs (or w64codecs if you use 64bit)
[21:58] <\u03b5> we checked volume/mute, and both builtin speakers and headphones
[21:58] <inductiveload> hi. when I try to change the default file type for mp3 to banshee (from totem) using the "Open with" dialogue, the file opens with banshee as expected, but next time, totem is used again
[21:58] <\u03b5> aplay -L only shows
[21:58] <\u03b5> Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server
[21:58] <\u03b5> and I have no clue about PA myself
[21:58] <inductiveload> how can i keep banshee as the default application?
[21:59] <osmodivs> now he hates Linux
[21:59] <sebsebseb> inductiveload: system > preferences > preffered applications
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> osmodivs: let him
[21:59] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: you can help him out a lot
[21:59] <osmodivs> but I am no Linux expert either
[21:59] <Agu10> hey
[21:59] <inductiveload> sebsebseb: that says banshee
[21:59] <guntbert> luddite1811: (I'm leaving) - run sudo vgdisplay to see how much space is left
[21:59] <osmodivs> but I can't go back to Windows
[21:59] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: its Ubuntu, you don't need to be :D
[21:59] <littlepenguin> someone experience with sambashares?
[22:00] <osmodivs> How do yo...PM?
[22:00] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: anyway what is the problem exactly?  he tried to upgrade or something?
[22:00] <\u03b5>  /query recipient
[22:00] <Agu10> I have a problem when trying to resume, after having suspended my laptop. it boots from the beginning, and I loose all my opened programs
[22:00] <dasmalty> Anyone had a fresh Ubuntu 10.04 installation (kernel 2.6.33-22-generic) randomly freeze, then reboot after 20 seconds?
[22:00] <\u03b5> will open a PM window
[22:00] <osmodivs> No, it was his first time installing Ubuntu, he has Windows
[22:00] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: ok, but what you showed me earlier was for 9.04
[22:00] <katy> hi, i'm having a problem whit my wireless conection, the chipset of my wireless card is a broadcom, i have try many thinks, reading about the problem i found this:
[22:00] <katy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/550503
[22:00] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: so which version did he install?
[22:00] <Agu10> what should I do?
[22:00] <osmodivs> But, when he rebooted he said a message appeared, error 15
[22:00] <katy> sorry for my english
[22:01] <osmodivs> file not found
[22:01] <sebsebseb> !broadcom | katy
[22:01] <osmodivs> 9.04
[22:01] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: 9.04 is a good release, still supported untill the end of October, so why were you trying to get it upgraded?
[22:01] <rhin0> anyone know why i can't get rid of files off a sandisk usb stick - they won't go away - delete them they stay there - what tools should i be using to remove files from it
[22:01] <osmodivs> well, it is better to have te latest
[22:01] <rhin0> flash drive
[22:01] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: you can't directly upgrade to 10.04, you would have to go through 9.10 first, and well when 9.10 was new and such, quite a lot of people had issues upgrading from 9.04 to it
[22:02] <rhin0> says its full its empty etc
[22:02] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: Newer is not always better!  in certain ways 9.04 really is better than 10.04
[22:02] <osmodivs> Why have 9 when you can have 10?
[22:02] <osmodivs> and looks cooler
[22:03] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: oh you like how 10.04 looks, well not all of us are so keen on the new look,  as well as other things in 10.04, but this is a bit off topic.
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> osmodivs: not always better to have the latest at all, sometimes the slightly older ones are better as they are more mature
[22:03] <osmodivs> but, does 10.04 behaves difrent from 9.?
[22:03] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: anyway two options here.  1. try and fix Grub.  2.  clean install
[22:04] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: yes they do behave differnetly, take the boot up for example, very differnet
[22:04] <osmodivs> Yeah, I guess he is gonna have to download and install again
[22:04] <katy> anyone know somethings about this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/550503
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> osmodivs: not much what the user sees but under the hood there are differences
[22:04] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: also if you want to help your cousin a bit more properly, whilst not actsually being there, well yes you can
[22:04] <sebsebseb> !vnc > osmodivs
[22:05] <magnetron> hi! it used to be the case that the title of the gnome-terminal window was updated when i ssh'd into a various systems, it used to be set to "username@host.domain.example". how do i re-enable this?
[22:05] <osmodivs> Well, he lives like a 1000 miles from where i live
[22:05] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: right so she what the bot pm'd
[22:05] <sebsebseb> see not she above
[22:05] <abstrakt> how do i find out what specific release i'm on?
[22:05] <tahsin> hi every1
[22:05] <osmodivs> about flooding
[22:06] <osmodivs> ¿?
[22:06] <abstrakt> does uname -a tell me?
[22:06] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: no
[22:06] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: I just got it to send you a message
[22:06] <katy> please help me}
[22:06] <magnetron> abstrakt: type "lsb_release -a" in a terminal
[22:06] <hmw> what character encoding does Ubuntu use by default for file names on ext3?
[22:07] <sebsebseb> katy: uhmm you could try ndiswrapper maybe instead, get Windows wireless driver working
[22:07] <abetterswordfish> My notifcations for Rhythmbox and Empathy aren't appearing...
[22:07] <abetterswordfish> My notifcations for Rhythmbox and Empathy aren't appearing... How to fix?
[22:07] <tahsin> hey
[22:07] <tahsin> i have 64 bit ubuntu
[22:08] <osmodivs> How do i send PM?
[22:08] <tahsin> and 4gb ram already
[22:08] <osmodivs> like tashin: hello
[22:08] <tahsin> but my system tell me i have 2.5 gb ram
[22:08] <tahsin> how can it be?
[22:08] <freefish_> hello
[22:08] <sebsebseb> osmodivs: /msg nick  or click on the persons irc nick I guess
[22:08] <offy> I am trying to automount an ext4 harddrive. /dev/sdb1. It doesn't want to mount
[22:08] <magnetron> tahsin: how does it tell you that?
[22:08] <TheChampion> phew
[22:08] <freefish_> how can i help about hylafax
[22:08] <TheChampion> this is going to be a long day
[22:09] <tahsin> sysinfo
[22:09] <tahsin> i downloaded it
[22:09] <sebsebseb> katy: if there is a bug with wireless in Ubuntu, not much can be done, except by developers
[22:09] <tahsin> and
[22:09] <principecontrahe> hi
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> tahsin: try the pae kernel
[22:09] <daniel> hey guys I have problem I can just open mozilla firefox from my terminal not from menu why?.
[22:09] <principecontrahe> there is someone who talks spanis?
[22:09] <tahsin> memory total 2486 mb
[22:09] <sebsebseb> !es | principecontrahe
[22:09] <osmodivs> I speak Español
[22:09] <sebsebseb> principecontrahe: sure in there
[22:09] <tahsin> pae kernel?
[22:09] <tahsin> how can i do that
[22:09] <freefish_> can you help me about hylafax
[22:10] <freefish_> :)
[22:10] <katy> thank
[22:10] <magnetron> tahsin: which software did you download?
[22:10] <sebsebseb> katy: you can probably use your Wndows wireless driver in Ubuntu
[22:10] <osmodivs> well, thanks for everything
[22:10] <sebsebseb> katy: with Ndiswrapper
[22:10] <tahsin> sysinfo magnetron
[22:10] <osmodivs> "see" you guys later
[22:10] <sebsebseb> katy: if you can't get it working natively thats the next thing to try
[22:10] <magnetron> tahsin: which "sysinfo" are you talking about?
[22:10] <principecontrahe> osmodis puedes abrirmpe privado?
[22:10] <osmodivs> tal vez
[22:10] <principecontrahe> jo
[22:10] <principecontrahe> tal vez?
[22:11] <Hasanibrahim> hello, there is a real freezing problem at my PC.
[22:11] <katy> ok thanks i'm gona try
[22:11] <tahsin> i downloaded it via ubuntu software center
[22:11] <BluesKaj> daniel, what are you typing into the terminal?
[22:11] <tahsin> magnetron
[22:11] <Hasanibrahim> whlile i'm trying to dragging a window
[22:11] <bilg_e> hi all!
[22:11] <Hasanibrahim> lspci | grep VGA
[22:11] <sebsebseb> katy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[22:11] <sebsebseb> ah to late
[22:11] <Hasanibrahim>  02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV515 PRO [Radeon X1300/X1550 Series]
[22:11] <sebsebseb> just left
[22:12] <MagicIRC> Hello, how can I turn off SELinux please? :)
[22:12] <Hasanibrahim> what's the possible cause do you think ?
[22:12] <tahsin> is there any1 to help me
[22:12] <tahsin> ?
[22:12] <bilg_e> i install ubuntu 10.04 but it can not see th windows 7 on grub2. i give the command sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/linuxfilesystem /dev/sda      from the live cd but it does not worked.
[22:12] <sebsebseb> !ask | tahsin
[22:12] <magnetron> tahsin: how many memory sticks do you have?
[22:12] <BluesKaj> daniel, just type firefox, forget the mozilla
[22:13] <offy> I am trying to automount an ext4 harddrive. /dev/sdb1. It doesn't want to mount
[22:13] <freefish_> when i install hylafax-server with apt-get on Ubuntu 9.10 Server, Area Code []? line begin loop on my screen and i can stop hylafax-server installation process only. after that the FIFO.ttyS0 file not created with faxsetup. what can i do ?
[22:13] <tahsin> i dunno magnetron...but i think 2
[22:13] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | bilg_e
[22:13] <tahsin> 2gb+2gb
[22:13] <daniel> I know and it doesnt work.
[22:14] <bilg_e> sebsebseb i read them. but i can not. there is no an option to isnatll the grub 2 again ?
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> offy: ok what is the output of:    sudo mkdir /media/sdb1; sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1
[22:14] <magnetron> tahsin: on some motherboards, the memory sticks have to be installed in special slots in order to use all of them
[22:14] <nat2610> is there a way to trigger a script when ubuntu (10.4 in my case) is about to go to sleep or wakes up ?
[22:14] <magnetron> tahsin: only some combinations will work
[22:14] <BluesKaj> !who | daniel
[22:14] <aguitel> how remove all gnome stuff ?
[22:14] <sebsebseb> bilg_e: you can re configure Grub 2 again some how
[22:14] <sebsebseb> bilg_e: and stuff like that
[22:14] <sebsebseb> aguitel: why?
[22:15] <bilg_e> sebsebseb: ok. thanks . vey helpfull. see you!
[22:15] <Daekdroom> So, if I install kubuntu-desktop metapackage while running conventional ubuntu, but then I want to go back to only GNOME, is there any apt command that I can run that'll remove kubuntu-desktop and all of its dependencies that no other package depend upon?
[22:15] <Hasanibrahim>  hello, there is a real freezing problem at my PC especially whlile i'm trying to dragging a window. The result of " lspci | grep VGA " is   |||   02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV515 PRO [Radeon X1300/X1550 Series] |||
[22:15] <aguitel> sebsebseb, to install lxde and then install minimal gnome (gnome-core)
[22:15] <tahsin> i see magnetron....bun i am alredy using vista home premium 64 bit....i can use all my memory (4gb)
[22:15] <sebsebseb> nat2610: uhmm  I guess so, but there is a graphical program where you can set a time for shut down and that kind of thing
[22:15] <magnetron> !puregnome | Daekdroom
[22:15] <sebsebseb> nat2610: gshutdown
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> aguitel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE
[22:15] <Type-O> what package does ubuntu use to control the FN laptop keys?
 It Mounts fine. But in my fstab it mounts to desktop. And i want that
[22:15] <sebsebseb> aguitel: oh ok
[22:15] <sebsebseb> aguitel: well have LXDE installed first, or you might have a bit of a problem
[22:16] <sebsebseb> aguitel: I mean hardly if anything graphical will work
[22:16] <Daekdroom> magnetron, ubottu didn't answer.
[22:16] <nat2610> sebsebseb, I'm talking about getting a message from acpid to let me know that the computer is about to go to sleep
[22:16] <Boogie0> Type-O, it depends on your laptop
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> offy: then add an entry in /etc/fstab   for the partition
[22:16] <magnetron> Daekdroom: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome
[22:16] <MagicIRC> Hello, I'd like to turn off SELinux, how can I do that, please? :)
[22:16] <aguitel> sebsebseb, yes i know when i was in debian i installed lxde first and then the "minimal gnome"
[22:17] <Type-O> Boogie0, ubuntu by default detects your laptop and installs that FN key package?
[22:17] <sebsebseb> aguitel: ok
[22:17] <Agu10_> hi
[22:17] <Agu10_> how can I make the suspend function work?
[22:17] <benkevan> Agu10_: hi
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> aguitel: just install Lubuntu ;)
[22:17] <Agu10_> when I try to resume, the laptop goes off instead
[22:17] <benkevan> Agu10_: what's the problem with it?
[22:18] <Boogie0> Type-O, it depends on your lptop manufacturer if it is recicnized
[22:18] <benkevan> Agu10_: what do you mean "off" ? no video? powers off?
[22:18] <Type-O> Boogie0, Why I ask is I am using lubuntu and ubuntu by default uses my FN keys
[22:18] <aguitel> ActionParsnip, i know lubuntu but gnome-core is fine
[22:18] <sebsebseb> !lubuntu |  aguitel
[22:18] <Agu10_> it looks like it's suspended, but when I press a key, it looks like it's resuming, but after a few seconds, it powers off
[22:18] <benkevan> Type-O: what do you want your FN key to do? you can use sev to find your keycode, and setup keybindings?
[22:18] <Type-O> Boogie0, It's a Compaq laptop
[22:18] <tahsin> i see magnetron....bun i am already using vista home premium 64 bit....i can use all my memory (4gb)
[22:19] <Agu10_> benkevan, it looks like it's suspended, but when I press a key, it looks like it's resuming, but after a few seconds, it powers off
[22:19] <Type-O> benkevan, I want the brightness/sound/graphics fn keys
[22:19] <Agu10_> suspending works fine with windows seven though
[22:19] <Type-O> benkevan, actually just volume control
[22:19] <sebsebseb> Agu10_: thats not that relivent
[22:20] <Agu10_> sebsebseb, I mean, it works for the laptop
[22:20] <sebsebseb> Agu10_: Vista version 2 has built in support, or a driver came with the computer. Most standard hardware support is done by the Linux kernel :)
[22:20] <benkevan> Type-O: you can use xev to find the keycode, and fix the bindings.. (like you would in most windows managers, that are not complete DE"s)
[22:20] <sebsebseb> Agu10_: ,but suspend can be a bit of an issue  for example
[22:20] <Boogie0> Type-O, IMO it shouldn't differ if you have Lubuntu or Ubuntu
[22:20] <Type-O> benkevan, thanks
[22:21] <Agu10_> sebsebseb, is there a way to make it work? or do I have to power off and on again?
[22:21] <benkevan> Boogie0: It can greatly .. since it really depends on what the DE/WM is doing and how it's using the keybindings (ie.. you don't even know if it's using xmodmode) etc..
[22:21] <benkevan> Agu10_: have you tried it without acpi?
[22:21] <Agu10_> how's that, benkevan ?
[22:21] <tahsin> hi all...i wish u can solve my prob....i am using vista home premium and ubuntu 10.04 ....both thme is 64 bit....but i have a prob....on my vista i use all my memory (4gb).....but on my ubuntu use just 2.5 gb of my memory....Hpw can i solve the prob?
[22:22] <benkevan> Agu10_: you can try acpi=off in the kernel params defined for grub (assuming you're using grub and not lilo) ..
[22:22] <benkevan> Agu10_: also, do you see anything in the logs?
[22:22] <Daekdroom> !pae | tahsin
[22:22] <Agu10_> well, I don't think so
[22:22] <sebsebseb> Agu10_: well this computer runs another distro now, but with Ubuntu suspend didn't used to work, but then with a later release it does, just not exactly like Vista.  I mean mouse is still on with the light if Vista does it and such.
[22:23] <tahsin> ubottu: my system is 64bit
[22:23] <sebsebseb> Agu10_: I think is only hibernate where you need to have the correct amount of SWAP space
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> tahsin: try the pae kernel
[22:23] <Daekdroom> tahsin, is the Ubuntu install?
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> tahsin: ah, d'oh
[22:23] <tahsin> what is pae kernel?
[22:23] <Daekdroom> tahsin, you can run Ubuntu 32bits on a 64bits system
[22:23] <sebsebseb> tahsin: ubottu is a female bot computer program
[22:23] <sebsebseb> !gender
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> tahsin: its a way 32bit kernels can access up to 12gb ram
[22:23] <benkevan> tahsin: pae = physical address which will allow you to use your whole memory space..
[22:23] <Daekdroom> PAE kernel is a 32bits kernel that allows you to use more than 3.2GB RAM
[22:23] <Agu10_> benkevan, http://pastebin.com/9HDwdXpf
[22:23] <benkevan> Agu10_: give that a try
[22:24] <tahsin> benkevan: ow yeaaah
[22:24] <Agu10_> let me try something, ill be right back
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> tahsin: did you install 64bit ubuntu?
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> tahsin: what is the output of:  uname -a
[22:24] <tahsin> yes actionparsnip
[22:24] <tahsin> its 64 bit
[22:24] <benkevan> Agu10_: you can hold the shift key while booting and add the acpi=off in the kernel line, to give it a shot
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> tahsin: can you give the output please :)
[22:25] <tahsin> i installed 64bit ubuntu
[22:25] <sha1sum> Hey guys. I have a Logitech Comfort Cordless Keyboard K350, and I've tried KeyTouch and KeyTouch editor, and still some of the keys aren't recognized, including the windows key... I'm trying to make the windows key show the gnome panel, and I'd also like to get the expo, zoom in/out, and special function keys working. There used to be a command line program, and I think it was part of xorg, that would give you the hex code of keys that yo
[22:25] <Daekdroom> tahsin, show us the output of uname -a
[22:25] <cantoma> guys, chown gives permission to a user to user regarding a folder where a mount point exists. But once I unmount and mount it again happens that I get permission denied again. Is there a way of doing chown permanently for a folder???
[22:25] <tahsin> sorry bout that but i dunno output too!
[22:25] <benkevan> sha1sum: what's the output of xmodmap ?
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> sha1sum: i had that active using gnomenu but have never had it working any other way
[22:26] <Daekdroom> tahsin, open a GNOME terminal, type uname -a, press ENTER and tell us what it shows.
[22:26] <daniel> hey guys I have problem I cant start my firefox just from terminal why?
[22:26] <tahsin> Linux tahsin-laptop 2.6.32-22-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 3 22:02:19 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[22:26] <Jordan_U> daniel: What happens when you try?
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> daniel: run: alacarte   and check the command executed
[22:26] <sha1sum> benkevan: xmodmap! That's it! hold on... I'll get the codes for the keys
[22:26] <benkevan> daniel: how are you trying to launch firefox outside of the terminal? can you try /usr/bin/firefox ?
[22:26] <Daekdroom> tahsin, that is a 32bits install.
[22:26] <Daekdroom> tahsin, you need a PAE kernel, definitely.
[22:27] <tahsin> really
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> tahsin: i686 == 32bit
[22:27] <sha1sum> benkevan: you mean just the output of the command all by itself?
[22:27] <benkevan> tahsin: yup.. that's 32-bit.. you just need to install the PAE kernel.. simple enough
[22:27] <daniel> just applications webbrowsers and firefox
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> tahsin: if it said:  Linux tahsin-laptop 2.6.32-22-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 3 22:02:19 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:27] <tahsin> thx all
[22:27] <daniel> I trying also F2 + ctrl and wrote firefox
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> tahsin: then it would be 64bit
[22:27] <unop> cantoma, what filesystem for the volume?
[22:27] <sebsebseb> !who | daniel
[22:27] <Agu10_> what should happen if I tried to suspend with ACPI off ?
[22:27] <benkevan> sha1sum: yah.. using that output, you should be able to determine the META key.. OR you can use the keycode, which can be determined by using xev
[22:27] <tahsin> can i upgrade to 64bit witout uninstall
[22:27] <Slart> tahsin: nope
[22:27] <daniel> ok ok sorry
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> tahsin: no, you must reinstall
[22:27] <Daekdroom> tahsin, follow the instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[22:27] <cantoma> unop, NTFS
[22:28] <sebsebseb> tahsin: if you are using 32bit you can't just do 64bit without a re install
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> tahsin: or you caninstall the pae kernel to access the ram
[22:28] <Daekdroom> tahsin, you'll still be running 32bits but you're going to have your whole RAM
[22:28] <Daekdroom> Which is the great of the two worlds.
[22:28] <benkevan> sha1sum: once you have it, you can setup a keybinding for the key to open the menu :o) (I don't use gnome, so I dunno where that's configured.. maybe in gconf?) .. I'm sure gnome has a nice play for defining global shortcuts
[22:28] <daniel> jordan_u nothing happens
[22:28] <unop> cantoma, ntfs doesn't understand unix permissions or ownership .. so you can't use the usual chown/chmod route.
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> tahsin: you can install linux-image-generic-pae   and it will access all the ram in 32bit
[22:28] <daniel> benkevan Im tried the 2 ways alt f2 + ctrl
[22:29] <benkevan> tahsin: PAE kernel is ALL you need.. it's VERY simple.. I myself prefer 32-Bit w/ PAE kernel.. because of some apps not working well on x86_64 (still)
[22:29] <unop> cantoma, are you mounting this volume manually? if so, how exactly?
[22:29] <Jordan_U> daniel: Are you sure that it isn't starting a new window in another workspace?
[22:29] <daniel> yup
[22:29] <cantoma> unop, i add it to udev first then i add it to fstab
[22:29] <daniel> jordan_U Im really sure.
[22:29] <benkevan> daniel: have you used the full path? /usr/bin/firefox ? instead of just firefox?
[22:29] <daniel> benkevan no will I try that?.
[22:29] <sha1sum> benkevan: okay do you know of a tutorial for xmodmap and getting all of this functional? I've done this before, but it was like 4-5 years ago, and I need a primer.
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> daniel: check the menu is running the right thing rather than no /usr/bin/firefox
[22:29] <tahsin> thank youuuu
[22:30] <unop> cantoma, in that case, you need to use the UID/GID options for the mountpoint to specify an owner to be assumed
[22:30] <benkevan> sha1sum: primer can be found at home depot.. it's great before your final coat..
[22:30] <daniel> actionparsnip its nothing process which are firefox I checked with ps aux
[22:30] <unop> cantoma, see ''man mount.ntfs-3g''
[22:30] <magnetron> benkevan: that's neither fun nor nice or useful
[22:30] <cantoma> unop, so how i can change this --> /dev/backup2    /media/backup2  auto    user,rw,exec,nosuid,nodev   0       0
[22:30] <sha1sum> benkevan: like there's supposed to be a way that you can run a command-line command and it will just wait for keypresses then give you the output codes
[22:30] <benkevan> sha1sum: naw.. but ummmm.. really it will depend on where gnome has key bindings.. If you want.. just use xev (which will key you the keycode) and you can tie that keycode with the function you want)
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> daniel: edit the menu and check the firefox entry
[22:30] <benkevan> sha1sum: that's xev
[22:30] <sha1sum> xev!
[22:30] <daniel> ok
[22:30] <sha1sum> yes!
[22:30] <sha1sum> heh
[22:30] <sha1sum> lol
[22:31] <FloodBot2> sha1sum: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:31] <daniel> 1 sek actionparsnip
[22:31] <magnetron> try 'xev'
[22:31] <unop> cantoma, something like  /dev/backup2    /media/backup2  auto    user,rw,exec,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000   0       0
[22:31] <sha1sum> benkevan: okay so what happens if you don't get any response from xev on a key?
[22:31] <bcj> This must have been a hot topic recently: has anyone else noticed that the latest update to Flashplayer seems to be broken?
[22:31] <benkevan> sha1sum: it's fun using mouse in xev to see it go all crazy too (if you're really bored at work)
[22:31] <PigeonCluster> ((bash -c 'ls `yes`')&) #try it, i dare you (hint: it will take down your system)
[22:31] <benkevan> sha1sum: is the key broken? :)
[22:32] <Jordan_U> PigeonCluster: Please do not post such commands.
[22:32] <sha1sum> benkevan: nope. Like I just pressed the expo key and nothing happened in xev
[22:32] <unop> PigeonCluster, nice try.
[22:32] <PigeonCluster> Jordan_U, it has a warning on it </meek voice>
[22:32] <bcj> PigeonCluster: Or    :(){ : | :};
[22:32] <benkevan> sha1sum: is expo (not sure what that is) a meta key, that must be pressed with something else?
[22:32] <sebsebseb> !danger
[22:32] <benkevan> can you hold the expo key and press n
[22:32] <sha1sum> benkevan: the windows key, zoom in/out keys, etc. do nothing also
[22:32] <unop> bcj, you're looking for a ban eh?
[22:32] <benkevan> then press n by itself, to see if it has 2 different key codes
[22:32] <daniel> doesnt work actionparsnip what else can it be?.
[22:32] <bcj> unop: Nope
[22:32] <sebsebseb> !troll | PigeonCluster bcj
[22:33] <daniel> hmm when I use sudo bash in terminal and firefox does it works good
[22:33] <PigeonCluster> sebsebseb, ok fine i get it ...
[22:33] <bcj> sebsebseb: Calm
[22:33] <Jordan_U> daniel: Don't EVER run firefox as root.
[22:33] <PigeonCluster> daniel, what Jordan_U said
[22:33] <sha1sum> benkevan: actually wait a minute... xev by itself is what I should be running? because pressing letter keys while xev is running gives no output on xev but the 'n' echoes
[22:33] <unop> bcj, bctop
[22:33] <bcj> I was following on from someone else who had previously said _not_ to do it
[22:33] <benkevan> daniel: oh.. when you're launching firefox in terminal.. you're doing it as root? does it launch as your normal user?
[22:33] <anigma> if I need Java Runtime should I just install the OpenJDK Java 6 Runtime?
[22:33] <ocatacoo> !file permission
[22:33] <sebsebseb> PigeonCluster: bcj  You can get in right trouble with the ops for doing stuff like the above ^
[22:33] <daniel> no :S benkevan
[22:33] <erUSUL> anigma: why not
[22:33] <funkyHat> sha1sum: in that case the key isn't really part of the keyboard (hardware wise) and you'll need a special driver. it's possible that one isn't available at all for Linux
[22:33] <chris_> Hi, I have USB headphones connected, when I try to play audio it comes out of the internal speakers, though. How do I set the default device? My window manager is LXDE. Thanks! :)
[22:33] <erUSUL> !java | anigma
[22:34] <daniel> sorry jordan_U
[22:34] <benkevan> sha1sum: yah.. launch xev.. then go inside the little white box.. and start pushing buttons :)
[22:34] <Jordan_U> daniel: Can you pastebing the output of "sh -x $(which firefox)" ?
[22:34] <daniel> how can I fix the solution I tried to restall it too
[22:34] <sha1sum> ahh the white box. gotcha
[22:34] <cantoma> unop, thanks .. but for writing in the disk is there anything i need to do else?
[22:34] <daniel> jordan_u is it just to write in console sh -x firefox?
[22:34] <ocatacoo> ubottu: file permission
[22:34] <cantoma> unop, i can now access it but no writing on it
[22:34] <daniel> sh: Can't open firefox
[22:34] <The-Jag> hi all
[22:34] <Jordan_U> daniel: No, that won't work
[22:35] <daniel> ok
[22:35] <sebsebseb> The-Jag: hi
[22:35] <tiq> Hello. I'm trying to install Ubuntu without a CD, and have copied the contents of the iso to the same hard disk I want to install it on, but on another partition. The installer however insists on unmounting the partition, and obviously installation can't continue after that... Any ideas?
[22:35] <daniel> tell me how to write please I should appreacite it a example should make it kinda easier.
[22:35] <ocatacoo> anyone file permission
[22:35] <benkevan> daniel: can you launch firefox in a terminal as YOUR user?
[22:35] <sha1sum> benkevan: okay I think I can take it from here. Some of the ultra-special keys aren't working, but I have a code for the windows key now, which is really all I'm worried about
[22:35] <daniel> yes benkevan
[22:35] <The-Jag> is there a way to import photos to f-spot from an external HDD without copying them elsewhere?
[22:35] <unop> cantoma, have you used the right uid/userid there?
[22:35] <erUSUL> !permissions | ocatacoo
[22:35] <daniel> or no benkevan
[22:35] <unop> cantoma, you can find out what your user id is with ''id -u''
[22:36] <sebsebseb> The-Jag: yes I think so, in the import settings
[22:36] <cantoma> unop, user,rw,exec,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000   0       0
[22:36] <daniel> benkevan NO
[22:36] <benkevan> daniel: what does it give you when you type firefox in a terminal window?
[22:36] <Jordan_U> tiq: You can use the netboot installer, since everything is contained in the kernel and initrd (which are copied to ram) you don't even need to store it in a separate partition.
[22:36] <The-Jag> sebsebseb: let me check
[22:36] <unop> cantoma, well, 1000 is the default userid for the first user -- in your case, it might be different, so do check first.
[22:36] <daniel> benkevan it gives me nothing nothing happens
[22:36] <ocatacoo> erUSUL: ubottu drew blank with me
[22:36] <daniel> benkevan I must do sudo bash first then can I write firefox
[22:37] <benkevan> daniel: seems like the issue is with your .mozilla (and your account)
[22:37] <dbahiaz> hi... the  flash stopped working after upgrade ff 3.6.6
[22:37] <daniel> yeah
[22:37] <benkevan> daniel: have you tried to mv ~/.mozilla ~/mozillaold and reopen mozilla?
[22:37] <domjohnson> Is there a command that allows me to find all files of a file type that doesn't have that file extension?
[22:37] <daniel> I have tried to restall mozilla benkevan
[22:37] <zatoichi> hi
[22:38] <The-Jag> sebsebseb: I can't fins any :(
[22:38] <The-Jag> find
[22:38] <daniel> but will I try that u did?
[22:38] <unop> domjohnson, find /path/to/your_dir/ ! -iname "*.foo"
[22:38] <sebsebseb> dbahiaz: someone else seemed to have a similar issue
[22:38] <benkevan> daniel: reinstalling firefox will not do anything to ~/.mozilla
[22:38] <daniel> tell me how to write in terminal please I do it.
[22:38] <chris_> Hi, I have USB headphones connected, when I try to play audio it comes out of the internal speakers, though. How do I set the default device? My window manager is LXDE. Thanks! :)
[22:38] <unop> domjohnson, or better to limit the find to just files instead of everything else.    find /path/to/your_dir/ -type f ! -iname "*.foo"
[22:38] <sebsebseb> The-Jag: well normally when importing fiels
[22:38] <tiq> Jordan_U: it'll need the rest of the filesystem too won't it?
[22:38] <sebsebseb> The-Jag: you don't have to import them to some folder
[22:39] <Slart> domjohnson: I don't think there is a "ready to run" command.. but you could do something with a script, "file" "find" and such
[22:39] <ernz> Hi all. I am rocking a buggy 10.04 on my laptop. After an upgrade today, the mouse stopped working. It works fine in the login screen, but then it gets into the desktop and buttons and mousepad both die. Can't see anything in the forums. Anyone familiar with this?
[22:39] <daniel> benkevan please tell me how to write in my terminal , then can I fix it :)
[22:39] <The-Jag> sebsebseb: actually, some of the photos were imported with picasa software, so f-spot cannot "see" them.
[22:39] <Slart> domjohnson: you'll have to make some decisions though.. some filetypes could fit more than one extension
[22:39] <dbahiaz> Anybody know the  solution?
[22:40] <sebsebseb> The-Jag: well f-spot is ok, but a bit sucky as well,  so  in 10.10 they will have Shotwell instead
[22:40] <Jordan_U> tiq: No, everything is either copied to ram first thing during boot or grabbed from the internet (and stored in RAM, or in the filesystem you're installing to)
[22:40] <sebsebseb> !info Shotwell
[22:40] <hugo> my usb scanner gone, can someone help me?
[22:40] <The-Jag> sebsebseb: ah really? is it any better?
[22:40] <sebsebseb> The-Jag: apparantly quite a bit better yeah
[22:40] <sebsebseb> The-Jag: from things I have been reading
[22:40] <sandking> joinhey
[22:40] <sandking> hey
[22:40] <sandking> ;]
[22:40] <The-Jag> sebsebseb: I'll check it
[22:40] <sandking> in installation info i see there's a line that i need to type "make" but i got error "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."
[22:41] <sebsebseb> The-Jag: however piccassa is better than F-Spot I guess
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> hugo: run: lsusb    one line will identify the device, use the 8 character hex ID for uides
[22:41] <domjohnson> unop - that just seems to be finding every single file I have
[22:41] <sandking> so how do i need to run make?
[22:41] <dbahiaz> sebsebseb: know  how to downgrade
[22:41] <sebsebseb> The-Jag: f-spot will still be in repo for 10.10, just not a default app, being clear
[22:41] <unop> domjohnson, well, not really - it's finding everything except files that have an extension of .foo.  what do you want it limited to?
[22:41] <sebsebseb> dbahiaz: nah try another browser though?  what tends to happen with Ubuntu is this,  Flash gets issues in FIrefox, but thats on the verge of changing it seems.   and other browsers :)
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> sandking: you'll need to install build-essential    ensure your pwd is the folder containing the source
[22:42] <The-Jag> sebsebseb: it is better but I'd like to have the option of direct uploading of photos to fb or flickr too, not just picasa
[22:42] <tiq> Jordan_U: it'll take a while to download the iso again, is there a way to point to the one I've got already?
[22:42] <The-Jag> sebsebseb: that's my only problem, other than that i'm fine with picasa!
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> sandking: its easier to find a PPA
[22:42] <daniel> benkevan thanks it worked.!
[22:42] <domjohnson> a file that is of a certain type (TOC) but doesn't have that extension (.toc)
[22:42] <benkevan> daniel: no problem
[22:42] <sebsebseb> The-Jag: oh I know what you could try as an alternative, if you don't mind instaling KDE stuff
[22:42] <benkevan> daniel: you'll be missing your history and bookmarks..
[22:42] <daniel> sorry I didnt understand first lol
[22:43] <daniel> that doesnt matter to me :)
[22:43] <sandking> ActionParsnip: I got build-essential installed but i don't know what you mean about password in the folder
[22:43] <benkevan> you can import your  bookmarks from the ~/mozillaold taht you moved it to
[22:43] <unop> domjohnson, what is type?  a mime type or a file extension?
[22:43] <daniel> thanks but I got a restore file I made
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> sandking: pwd == present working directory
[22:43] <daniel> I have another problem through..
[22:43] <sandking> ActionParsnip: oh ;]
[22:43] <hugo> ok...i got the ID, what do i have to do now? (sorry i'm a begginer)
[22:43] <domjohnson> umm...not sure
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> sandking: your terminal needs to be in the sam directory as the files you are compiling
[22:43] <Jordan_U> tiq: Not easily, the netboot kernel and initrd are tiny, but you'll be downloading everything else during the install.
[22:44] <sebsebseb> The-Jag: digikam
[22:44] <The-Jag> sebsebseb: I find myself confortable in gnome so if possible i'd like to stick with it :)
[22:44] <ocatacoo> I see permissions drwx what does the d = stand for
[22:44] <sebsebseb> The-Jag: yes, but
[22:44] <domjohnson> The program I used to save something didn't give it the extension it looks for, and doesn't have a 'recent files' function
[22:44] <Dulak> ocatacoo: directory
[22:44] <chris_> Hi, I have USB headphones connected, when I try to play audio it comes out of the internal speakers, though. How do I set the default device? My window manager is LXDE. Thanks! :)
[22:44] <sebsebseb> The-Jag: you can run most KDE apps inside Gnome as well :)  just like most Gnome apps run inside KDE
[22:44] <daniel> I can mount all my drives with pysdm without 1 why?.
[22:44] <sandking> ActionParsnip: so how do i set it up?
[22:44] <ernz> Mouse stopped working after upgrade. Any takers?
[22:44] <sebsebseb> The-Jag: and neither desktop envirionment and its apps is anywhere near perfect, so I been mixing apps since 2004/5 here and there
[22:45] <unop> domjohnson,  well, let's say you knew the mime type of the file ( use the command ''file -ib /path/to/example_file'' to find out ) you could use something like this to find all text files that don't have an extension of .txt.    find . ! -iname "*.txt" -execdir bash -c '[[ $(file -ib "$1") = text/plain* ]]' _ {} \; -print
[22:45] <tiq> is there an alternative installer to ubiquity? I don't really see why that one wants to unmount anything before installing
[22:45] <The-Jag> sebsebseb: yes yes, i was talking about graphics themes of those app :)
[22:45] <coder7_w> where does empathy do its logging?
[22:45] <Unik> .
[22:45] <sandking> ActionParsnip: i'm in the dir with source in terminal if that what you mean
[22:45] <Unik> Hi all
[22:45] <Unik> I need some help pls
[22:45] <sebsebseb> The-Jag: so what if they look a bit differnet from the other apps in Gnome :D
[22:45] <sebsebseb> !ask | Unik
[22:46] <Jordan_U> tiq: Just download http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/linux and http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/initrd.gz and boot them.
[22:46] <sha1sum> Aha! The windows key is mapped to Mod4
[22:46] <The-Jag> sebsebseb: oh nothing i am just picky in this case :D
[22:46] <sha1sum> I might like this once I get used to it.
[22:46] <The-Jag> sebsebseb: shotwell doesn't seem so bad
[22:46] <sebsebseb> The-Jag: you just tried it?
[22:46] <Unik> i need drivers for ubuntu lts 10.4 Radeon 9200
[22:47] <Unik> can smb help me?
[22:47] <The-Jag> sebsebseb: just looked at its website
[22:47] <sebsebseb> The-Jag: yeah  I am not sure if it is in the 10.04 repo
[22:47] <unop> domjohnson, similarly, to find all videos that are not .mpegs.   find . ! -iname "*.mpg" ! -iname "*.mpeg" -execdir bash -c '[[ $(file -ib "$1") = video* ]]' _ {} \; -print
[22:47] <hugo> i got this: Bus 002 Device 005: ID 055f:0001 Mustek Systems, Inc. ScanExpress 1200 CU
[22:47] <tiq> Jordan_U: I'd rather not download the iso's worth of data again, I'm on a tight usage policy here :) if I can't get the current installer working, will probably just get an external cd drive and hope that works
[22:48] <darksider> ?
[22:48] <The-Jag> sebsebseb: i don't think so too
[22:48] <domjohnson> ok
[22:48] <benkevan> sha1sum: yah.. I could have told you that.. hehe.. that's the most common mapping Mod4 (or S for openbox I believe)
[22:49] <Unik> !ask driver ati  radeon 9200 ubuntu 10.4 lts
[22:49] <benkevan> sha1sum: but isn't it so much funner figuring it out yourself?
[22:49] <sha1sum> suuuuure why not
[22:50] <Unik> Guys i need help coz i'm new on liniz
[22:50] <sebsebseb> !ask | Unik
[22:50] <Unik> ati radeon
[22:50] <Slart> Unik: just describe your problem. Oh and the operating system is called Ubuntu or Linux
[22:50] <sebsebseb> !details | Unik
[22:51] <Unik> ati radeon 9200 drives
[22:51] <Unik> drivers*
[22:51] <sebsebseb> Slart: Unik  to be exact Linux is just a kernel not an operating system,  that many Linux distributions/distros use,  Ubuntu being one of them.  http://www.distrowatch.com :)  ( and yes I know you already know Slart :D )
[22:51] <chris_> Hi, I have USB headphones connected, when I try to play audio it comes out of the internal speakers, though. How do I set the default device? My window manager is LXDE. Thanks! :)
[22:52] <sebsebseb> Slart: well I assume you do
[22:52] <Slart> sebsebseb: =)
[22:53] <hugo> my usb scanner gone, i type lsusb and got this information about my scanner, Bus 002 Device 005: ID 055f:0001 Mustek Systems, Inc. ScanExpress 1200 CU, what can i do now?
[22:53] <sebsebseb> Unik: what is the ATI problem you have?
[22:53] <sebsebseb> Unik: you have only given details where we can guess what the problem might be
[22:54] <Unik> sebsebseb, i have not drivers for 9200 ati radeon
[22:54] <sebsebseb> Unik: taking  a guess,  I guess you can't install the driver?
[22:54] <Unik> yes
[22:54] <sebsebseb> Unik: why do you want to install a driver?
[22:54] <Slart> Unik: perhaps you'll find it easier to chat in italian... if you type   /join #ubuntu-it  you'll get to the italian ubuntu channel
[22:54] <Unik> to have more good 3D
[22:55] <Unik> thnx
[22:55] <ennui> does anyone here use a GUI for fan control?
[22:55] <sebsebseb> !ati | Unik
[22:55] <Slart> Unik: although your english is quite ok
[22:55] <mj8741> Hi all, getting "error probing smb1" upon boot in 10.04.  Anybody know what that is? - thanks
[22:55] <Unik> thnx
[22:55] <sebsebseb> ImaLamer: have you been using Samaba?
[22:55] <Slart> ennui: I didn't know there was one.. I've always used the command line options
[22:55] <sebsebseb> ImaLamer: not you
[22:55] <sebsebseb> mj8741: have you been using Samaba?
[22:56] <mj8741> sebsebseb: no
[22:56] <tsolox> is the linux kernel in ubuntu the original linux kernel or has it been patched to ubuntu-specific patches...and why?
[22:56] <sebsebseb> mj8741: I am thinking smbclient and samba.   When do you get that error message?
[22:56] <sebsebseb> tsolox: patched for use by Ubuntu
[22:57] <sebsebseb> tsolox: its not a vanilla kernel
[22:57] <mj8741> sebsebseb: get it while booting - system does boot ok though.
[22:57] <suicidepills> when i go to administration > shared folders and create a new share, "samba" doesn't appear as an option in the "share through" drop-down.  Does anyone know why that might be?
[22:57] <tsolox> sebsebseb: can we use vanila kernel for ubuntu?
[22:57] <sebsebseb> tsolox: you can install  your own kernel if you want to, but  support for that well not here, and maybe will cause a little upgrade issue if you upgrade Ubuntu
[22:58] <sebsebseb> tsolox: also most users don't have a good enough reason to install their own
[22:58] <idefixx> its not samba... its the nforce2 smb-us error msg. (i guess)
[22:58] <tsolox> sebsebseb: last time i used ubuntu, it was able to mount a jfs partition. How do you suggest i go around this?
[22:59] <tsolox> was not
[22:59] <sebsebseb> mj8741: sometimes when booting  Ubuntu there may be error messages,  I will ignore them :D  unless there is an actsaul problem.  Also you could Google  yours to try and find out what it means.
[22:59] <sebsebseb> tsolox: uh why are you using jfs?
[22:59] <sebsebseb> tsolox: hardly anyone uses that file system
[22:59] <tsolox> sebsebseb: okey...how about xfs
[22:59] <erUSUL> tsolox: jfs support is still there afaics « /lib/modules/2.6.32-22-generic/kernel/fs/jfs/jfs.ko »
[22:59] <mj8741> sebsebseb: ok, just didn't what it to be a security issue -
[23:00] <tsolox> erUSUL: you mean, i could just modprobe it?
[23:00] <Slart> tsolox: xfs works nicely on my system
[23:00] <sebsebseb> tsolox: hardly anyone uses xfs or reiser or any of that with Ubuntu either,  its Ext4 by default since 9.10, and Ext3  before 9.10 by default
[23:00] <sebsebseb> tsolox: and a year or so and it will be btrfs by default
[23:00] <coder7_w> wtf is btrfs?
[23:00] <sebsebseb> tsolox: 11.04 probably I mean
[23:00] <tsolox> sebsebseb: it's a portable drive i attached to usb
[23:00] <erUSUL> tsolox: yes; but you shouldn't need to do it manually the mount should trigger the module load
[23:00] <Slart> tsolox: I don't use it for the root fs.. but for my large data storage hard drives
[23:00] <Dulak> ext4 needs another 5-10 years to mature before I'd use it in production
[23:01] <sebsebseb> coder7_w: a next generation file system, that will become the default for most distros, when it is ready enough
[23:01] <sebsebseb> !language | coder7_w
[23:01] <Slart> coder7_w: the new cool file systems all the cool distros use.. or will use.. perhaps..
[23:01] <coder7_w> what? doesn't it stand for "what the face"?
[23:01] <coder7_w> geesh... some people don't watch enough TV
[23:01] <Jordan_U> Dulak: So I assume you won't be using btrfs for another decade or so?
[23:01] <tsolox> sebsebseb: by 'hardly use it anymore', did you mean it is obsolete or what?
[23:01] <Dulak> Jordan_U, nope
[23:02] <Slart> coder7_w: let's hope it's not a description of what you'll look like when you realise all your files are gone
[23:02] <sebsebseb> tsolox: jfs and xfs are still made as far as I know, but hardly any Linux users use them
[23:02] <Dulak> Jordan_U, I got burned hard by ext3, never again.
[23:02] <idefixx> Dulak: ext4 is good enough for google but nor for you!?
[23:02] <tsolox> Slart: what fs did you mean xfs | jfs?
[23:02] <sebsebseb> idefixx: well Google also hired the lead Ext4 developer
[23:02] <idefixx> so?
[23:02] <LjL> !offtopic
[23:02] <domjohnson> night all
[23:02] <Slart> tsolox: I use xfs on some of my hard drives... ext4 for root though
[23:03] <ImaLamer> If i install the restricted nvidia drivers and it says 'current' version is that the latest from the nv site?
[23:03] <Dulak> Nope, google has thousands of servers when data gets corrupted they just pull from thier cloud, I have 2 servers and no cloud
[23:03] <tsolox> sebsebseb: i think, mostly because ext4 has easier migration with their previous ext fs...
[23:03] <wildbat> hmmm which one have better compression ? bzip or gzip ?
[23:03] <sebsebseb> ImaLamer: thats the recommended version I think
[23:03] <tiq> jordan_U: managed to fool the installer by modifying mtab, and now it stopped complaining about the mounted cdrom and seems to be continuing with the installation. weird one!
[23:03] <coder7_w> Dulak: 2 servers is enough to make a cloud... :P
[23:03] <sebsebseb> ImaLamer: also only install directly from Nividia as a last resort, since problems are likely to happen if you do
[23:03] <Dulak> So google can have ext4, and figure out the bugs for me
[23:03] <erUSUL> wildbat: xz or lzma ;P
[23:04] <tsolox> sebsebseb: but xfs came close to ext4 during Google's evaluation, i think
[23:04] <Slart> wildbat: I think bzip is a little bit newer.. but I'm sure there are comparisons out there
[23:04] <wildbat> erUSUL, OH
[23:04] <ennui> Slart: What command line options for fan control? I just know 'sensors' to see the readouts
[23:04] <erUSUL> wildbat: bzip has better compression but is dog slow ( i.e not worth the gains )
[23:04] <sebsebseb> tsolox: apparantly XFS has had loads of the Ext4 advantages for well years
[23:04] <Dulak> coder7_w: if they weren't already dedicated to you know serving webpages and databases I'd agree
[23:04] <Slart> ennui: depends on which fans you want to control.. nvclock handles the fans for my graphics card, for example
[23:04] <ImaLamer> sebsebseb, what is the fear the driver is dated compared to new cards
[23:04] <sebsebseb> ImaLamer: this isn't Windows
[23:05] <coder7_w> Dulak: yeah, I know the feeling. I just built my first UEC. Had to buy new hardware
[23:05] <sebsebseb> ImaLamer: so installing new graphics card drivers or whatever in Windows, not usesaully going to cause a problem,  as long as your doing it for the correct hardware
[23:05] <unop> erUSUL, depends on the volume you're moving and then 2KiB does make a difference. :)
[23:05] <sebsebseb> ImaLamer: if you do a graphics card driver for  a Linux distro, well your messing around with xorg, and xorg can really mess up on people at times
[23:05] <coder7_w> Dulak: it is nice though. Storage controller running RAID 5 and the cloud has snapshot support.... so I really could care less what fs the instances are using
[23:05] <ImaLamer> sebsebseb, <.< of course
[23:06] <Dulak> I'm just incredibly conservative about filesystems,  reiser and ext3 both screwed me when I adopted them early
[23:06] <erUSUL> unop: well then use lzma or xz ;P they are slower but it pays of
[23:06] <ImaLamer> sebsebseb, i'm trying to help a friend with newer card and worse performance, just checking around
[23:06] <sebsebseb> ImaLamer: and most people don't need the very latest driver anyway, so what the repo has is ideal,  and what is in the repo has been tested by Ubuntu developers as far as I know
[23:06] <mj8741> sebsebseb: SMB1 error is a "packet chaining vulnerability"  I don't currently have samba installed should not be a security issue right?
[23:07] <coder7_w> Dulak: how early did you start using ext3?
[23:07] <sebsebseb> mj8741: its probably ok, but if you want to be sure or whatever, clean install :D
[23:07] <BiggFREE> Hi
[23:07] <ImaLamer> sebsebseb, i don't intend on him trying a newer set - just wanting to confirm something against for help earlier in #winehq
[23:07] <Dulak> coder7_w: about a year after it became standard
[23:07] <sebsebseb> ImaLamer: oh
[23:08] <ImaLamer> sebsebseb, who told me to go slackware (lmao)
[23:08] <coder7_w> Dulak: I'll admit I lost some data that could have been recovered if it weren't for ext3, but it was user error that caused it. Ext3 journaling has saved me many times though
[23:08] <visitor2> does anyone know what the best way to make a persistent bootable sd card or usb pen drive is?
[23:08] <Dulak> coder7_w: I will experiment with languages, database servers, etc.  Not filesystems though.
[23:08] <sebsebseb> coder7_w: yeah some people have this idea that,  file systems aren't that good, untill they are pretty old, and so they think stable
[23:08] <ImaLamer> welcome to #disk_formats!
[23:08] <mj8741> sebsebseb: this is new install - don't this I'll worry about it since samba not even installed.
[23:08] <sebsebseb> coder7_w: anyway don't worry about file system to much,  Ubuntu will only  change to another, when it is stable enough for most users
[23:09] <idefixx> visitor2: no offence to ubuntu but id' go BackTrack
[23:09] <sebsebseb> coder7_w: I mean change as the default,  hence why btrfs was only a maybe  as default for 10.10, but now probably won't be untill 11.04
[23:09] <tsolox> how does ubuntu able to automount attached jumpdrives ? i usually manually , mount it in my box here...
[23:09] <visitor2> idefixx,  what do you mean?
[23:10] <tsolox> is it thru some udev rules or somethin'?
[23:10] <Dulak> The idea gets proven enough through data loss.  Lose a job because of data loss from a new filesystem and you'll join me.
[23:10] <sebsebseb> coder7_w: plus its already been in development for like two years or something,  and at least one distro is already using it by default.  others have it as an option.
[23:10] <idefixx> visitor2: google backtrack click first link.. extremely easy to use persistent usb vise
[23:10] <erUSUL> tsolox: udev + udisk ( formely known as devicekit-disks )
[23:10] <coder7_w> so far the info on it looks decent
[23:11] <visitor2> oh - does it make the drive from a cd or windows or ubuntu, none of which I currently have?
[23:11] <sebsebseb> coder7_w: on what btrfs?  wil be interesting when it comes default, since the snapshot feature :D
[23:11] <visitor2> and persistent sd too?
[23:11] <Jordan_U> Dulak: Why didn't you have backups?
[23:11] <Chiggins> Hey, how can I change what version of Java I'm using... I wanna use sun-java5-jdk
[23:11] <coder7_w> yeah, I was looking at the btrfs wiki
[23:12] <erUSUL> Chiggins: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[23:12] <Dulak> Jordan_U the backups got corrupted too.  Biggest mess of my career
[23:12] <sebsebseb> !java | Chiggins
[23:12] <coder7_w> sebsebseb; why wont your handle tab-complete in empathy?
[23:12] <sebsebseb> coder7_w: what?
[23:12] <Gimble> Hey all, is this the place to come for help? :)
[23:12] <sebsebseb> coder7_w: I dont' use Empathy :)
[23:12] <sebsebseb> Gimble: yes
[23:12] <sebsebseb> Gimble: and to just ask the question as well
[23:13] <visitor2> does anyone know what the best way to make a persistent bootable sd card or usb pen drive is?
[23:13] <coder7_w> eh... well I haven't gotten around to installing a "real" IRC client since I installed 10.04
[23:13] <sebsebseb> !usb | visitor2
[23:13] <coder7_w> empathy was default
[23:13] <Jordan_U> Dulak: That's why you should keep backups out of band and check them regularly. With a proper backup scheme that situation shouldn't be possible.
[23:13] <coder7_w> and it wont tab complete your handle
[23:13] <visitor2> ooops seems I backtracked in another sense, sorry
[23:13] <Chiggins> How do I fully uninstall any open jdk stuff?  I still have something coming up saying I'm using javac 1.6.0_20
[23:13] <sebsebseb> coder7_w: well xchat is popular, but I like Konversation :)
[23:13] <coder7_w> it will for everyone else's handle though
[23:13] <idefixx> hes not talking about installing it from usb
[23:13] <idefixx> persistent usb means boot and keeping changes on usb
[23:13] <visitor2> not from a usb drive to a usb drive
[23:13] <Gimble> Okay, i am completely new to linux, I am trying to get my wireless to work but no joy. where should i start? im not sure if its drivers or me doing something wrong.
[23:14] <visitor2> and persistent not simple live
[23:14] <sebsebseb> Gimble: ok your going to have to get your wireless configured
[23:14] <Jordan_U> visitor2: IMHO the best way is to just do a standard install.
[23:14] <sebsebseb> Gimble: two ways.  1.  native Linux driver.  2.  Ndiswrapper with WIndows dr ver
[23:14] <Dulak> Jordan_U: I agree it was a budget issue and I screwed it up.  It has made me less of an early adopter though.
[23:14] <visitor2> most of the instructions I have found require either a cd drive, windows, or ubuntu already installed somewhere
[23:14] <coder7_w> sebsebseb: I used to have a permanent irssi session running in a screen session on my server
[23:15] <visitor2> or install to a hard drive instead
[23:15] <sebsebseb> Gimble: and if neither work for you with Ubuntu, well the wireless  may just work in some other distro.
[23:15] <sebsebseb> !wireless | Gimble
[23:15] <TheChampion> is there a reason why ubuntu won't recognize my tv for a monitor?
[23:15] <coder7_w> sebsebseb: then I rebooted after some 700+ days of uptime and never bothered to restart the session :P
[23:15] <visitor2> Jordan_U: what do you mean?
[23:15] <Gimble> okay, thanks, ill check that out
[23:15] <icelink> Hey there. Any idea why audacious will only play certain wav-files but not others? Maybe some codecs I missed out?
[23:16] <belkinsa> Do you have the restricted extras installed?
[23:16] <Jordan_U> visitor2: Install the same way you would to a normal hard drive, just make sure that you setup grub to install to the card / usb drive.
[23:16] <erUSUL> icelink: a wav file is a wav file; you only need the wav codec
[23:16] <TheChampion> anyone have an answer for why ubuntu wont recognize my tv?
[23:16] <sebsebseb> Gimble: really number 2 you should only do if you can't get it working natively, but heres the link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[23:16] <Gimble> I forgot to check what my wireless card is in windows, can i check in linux?
[23:16] <EpicCyndaquil> how can I get the IPs of all computers on my network?
[23:16] <sebsebseb> Gimble: Good luck
[23:16] <icelink> erUSUL: i know that's weird since only some files are played (and the others for certain worked on another os)
[23:16] <Slart> EpicCyndaquil: nmap is nice
[23:17] <erUSUL> Gimble: lspci | grep -i  net
[23:17] <erUSUL> icelink: only happens with audacious? what about totem (default player) ?
[23:17] <Slart> EpicCyndaquil: something like   "nmap 192.168.0.*" will give you a list of computer on that local network..
[23:18] <TheChampion> ugh i hate my life
[23:18] <Niglop> y
[23:18] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: Ubuntu tends to work best with standard hardware
[23:18] <TheChampion> but my monitor is dead, so i am forced to try to use my tv :|
[23:18] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: and no that does not exactly include using TV's, but I guess, if its just a plug the computer into the TV, it should work really
[23:18] <icelink> erUSUL: hm indeed, only adacious
[23:18] <visitor2> but can you format flash media the same way Jordan_U ?
[23:18] <icelink> *audacious
[23:19] <EpicCyndaquil> thanks Slart, somehow my server's IP got changed from *.8 to *.10 O_o
[23:19] <Jordan_U> visitor2: Yes, there's nothing really speciall about flash media.
[23:19] <Slart> EpicCyndaquil: you're welcome
[23:19] <TheChampion> i'm using a live disc if that would affect anything
[23:19] <HoldenC> Hello, I'm using hardy and I've seen that they have updated firefox from 3.0 to 3.6, which is great. The font rendering in 3.6 is pretty bad though...has anyone else noticed this?
[23:19] <visitor2> what I want to do is set it up so I press escsape each bootup and chose the media
[23:19] <TheChampion> my computer boots up the live disc and shows it on my tv, but as soon as ubuntu loads my tv rejects showing it
[23:19] <belkinsa> Does anyone know how to fix totem so it can play streams on internet radio and TV sites?
[23:19] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: also attention seeking sometimes works, but  you shoudn't really,  and people will useually reply to your support issue, if they think they can help
[23:20] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: be patient, ask the question again after a while, if no reply or no proper reply :)
[23:20] <visitor2> but dont I want to avoid things that wear out the flash media?
[23:20] <TheChampion> yeah sorry, ive just been out of a computer for a month, and got an idea to try using ubuntu and my tv to fix my computer, but after four hours it isn't working
[23:20] <belkinsa> The: Check the forums at ubuntuforums.org
[23:20] <TheChampion> alright thanks
[23:20] <Jordan_U> belkinsa: Did you try opening the stream in totem proper rather than the brower plugin? The automagic codec installation doesn
[23:21] <Jordan_U> belkinsa: ... doesn't work with the browser plugin.
[23:21] <Slart> TheChampion: you can check the xorg log file to see if it's having problems with resolutions and such.. it's in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:21] <visitor2> Jordan_U: If I understood you right that would mean to create a live usb pendrive and use it to install as if to the hard drive but just choose the appropriate device?
[23:21] <TheChampion> im completely new to linux, i have no clue how to do that lol
[23:21] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: can you see Ubuntu right now?
[23:21] <TheChampion> for the few seconds that my monitor allows it before dying
[23:22] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: right so what Slart said won't be of much help
[23:22] <TheChampion> sometimes it will let me use the computer monitor for a few minutes though
[23:22] <TheChampion> explain in case i get lucky please?
[23:22] <Slart> TheChampion:  open a terminal and write   gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log .. oh wait.. you haven't got a monitor.. ouch
[23:22] <visitor2> Jordan_U: is that right?
[23:22] <kizi86> hi folkz, i have a little problem, somehow when i restarted my computer after a kernel upgrade, my default session got stuck as xterm, and if i type exit, it goes back to the login screen, but the screen resolution is just 320x240 and i can't see the window where to enter my password in....
[23:22] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: I know they aren't exactly cheap, but better to use a real monitor instead of a TV :)
[23:22] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: as your screen
[23:23] <visitor2> I am used to knoppix where you have a live usb/sd + persistance
[23:23] <TheChampion> i dont have the money to buy a replacement atm :|
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[23:23] <visitor2> you can't do it the knoppix way with ubuntu Jordan_U ?
[23:23] <Slart> TheChampion: the tv doesn't work with the live cd either? same kind of error?
[23:23] <kevr> psi-jack, stfu
[23:23] <Slart> !troll
[23:23] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: right, but your on some other computer at the moment?
[23:24] <TheChampion> ya the tv shows the windows bios etc but when it loads the live cd the tv just loses the signal
[23:24] <Jordan_U> visitor2: You can, I just think that it's inferior if you want to use the installation long term.
[23:24] <TheChampion> sebsebseb:  im on my sisters laptop atm, but i dont have the required cables to use this one as a second monitor
[23:24] <visitor2> Jordan_U: why is that?
[23:24] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: the Windows BIOS?  no a BIOS is for the motherboard of the computer, not an OS
[23:24] <TheChampion> i guess buying them would be my next step
[23:24] <slabby> Hi. I am running 10.04 on my laptop. Sometimes (I have not worked out the pattern yet) the 'Power Information' notification sticks on the screen. Currently I have it on my screen and it keeps fading out then flashing back in again. How can I clear all notifications?
[23:24] <kevr> sebsebseb: ty.
[23:24] <kevr> i was about to cry
[23:24] <sebsebseb> kevr: oh uhmm?
[23:24] <visitor2> I have used knoppix that way for more than 5 years at a time
[23:24] <TheChampion> well sebsebseb  the computer loading screen itself, and then the option to boot from cd
[23:24] <benkevan> jtanner: hi.. i see you
[23:25] <jtanner> benkevan, these are not the channels you are looking for
[23:25] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: got Windows on there as well?
[23:25] <wildbat> "configure: error: Cannot build a 32-bit program, you need to install 32-bit development libraries." which package(s) do i need to install ?
[23:25] <TheChampion> ya it was my default os
[23:25] <idefixx> TheChampion: does you monior die regardless of resolution and such? if not try hitting crtl-alt-F1 when you see the desktop that should bring up the console and also lower the resolution in case that helps your monitor.
[23:25] <kizi86> does any1 have a clue as how to fix this problem?
[23:25] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: ok and if you try to use the TV with Windows, what happens?
[23:25] <TheChampion> it works fine
[23:26] <TheChampion> idefixx:  is there a way to change my resolution without actually being in windows? because i cant go past the windows load screen because the files are corrupt, so im stuck using bios/setup
[23:26] <suicidepills> when i go to administration > shared folders and create a new share, "samba" doesn't appear as an option in the "share through" drop-down.  Does anyone know why that might be?
[23:26] <Jordan_U> visitor2: There are certain things that you can't upgrade in a "persistent" install, like the kernel. So if you want to do a major upgrade in the future you'll have to re-install from scratch, and even between major upgrades you don't get security fixes for the kernel.
[23:26] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: if your Windows install is currupt, maybe you should re install
[23:26] <TheChampion> it wont even let me reinstall
[23:26] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: altough now I think I understand why you tried Ubuntu
[23:26] <TheChampion> well at least someone understands lol
[23:26] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: won't let you re install why?
[23:27] <kevr> suicidepills: Go to your Windows PC, then, put in your Windows CD, then let it load up. Following this, press D, then Enter to make sure. After this, power off your computer.
[23:27] <TheChampion> it freezes up
[23:27] <kevr> problem solved.
[23:27] <idefixx> TheChampion: like i said on linux switching to the console usually lowers the resolution on windows you can boot to vga modus depending on your installed os (xp/vista/7)
[23:27] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: Blue Screen of death?
[23:27] <TheChampion> no it just starts loading the "required components" to run windows from the cd, and then hangs
[23:27] <TheChampion> at "starting windows"
[23:27] <kevr> TheChampion: do you have a SATA HDD?
[23:27] <visitor2> aha Jordan_U . Knoppix by default doesn't have logins so may be slightly less vulnerable in general. but you make an excellent point
[23:28] <TheChampion> i believe so :
[23:28] <kevr> TheChampion: You may need the SATA drivers from your mobo website, and pre-load them
[23:28] <suicidepills> kevr, really?
[23:28] <idefixx> TheChampion: pressing F8 when the computer starts shows you the boot menu (windows) but since this is a linux chan I guess that is kinda off topic
[23:28] <kevr> with a floppy, or a cd
[23:28] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: Ubuntu is  an alright OS, but  configuring hardware can be a right pain
[23:28] <kevr> windows xp doesn't load them
[23:28] <ClevelandRock> Can someone help me get the microphone on my headset to work? This is my headset: http://www.plantronics.com/north_america/en_US/products/computer/gaming-headsets/gamecom-367
[23:28] <kevr> by default
[23:28] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: and if you can't even have the Live CD booted for long enough, uhmm
[23:28] <TheChampion> bleh i guess id be better off buyiing a cable to use this laptop as a monitor until i can get this sorted out
[23:29] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: yeah that sounds good to me
[23:29] <earthen> ClevelandRock, I don't think you can I have the same head set and can only manage to get the speakers to work
[23:29] <visitor2> Jordan_U: which ubuntu do you think wouldbe best for that.  I also want to make these cards for others who are new to linux
[23:29] <suicidepills> kevr, the problem that I'm having is with an ubuntu machine though...
[23:29] <visitor2> that is the reason for using ubuntu
[23:29] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: also you should maybe re install WIndows, or get rid of it completly :D
[23:29] <idefixx> TheChampion: also in case you have no clue what I'm talking about and when to press F8 ... keep hitting it until you see the boot menu and from there on you can choose vga mode which boots to a lower res... anyways google is your friend thats a common problem
[23:29] <kevr> suicidepills: sounds like its a problem with samba
[23:29]  * kevr snoozes
[23:29] <Jordan_U> visitor2: How large are the cards?
[23:29] <visitor2> 8g
[23:29] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: however you may not get much luck with configuring Ubuntu to use TV monitor, depends really on the hardware and who can help you
[23:29] <TheChampion> idefixx:  thanks ill try that
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[23:30] <visitor2> at least that is what I intend to buy
[23:30] <ClevelandRock> @earthen I may have screwed up my alsamixer settings or something. Maybe.
[23:30] <kevr> amixer>alsamixer
[23:30] <suicidepills> kevr, the strange thing is that I can share things via samba by editing the smb.conf manually.  i'd like to be able to do it through the ui though
[23:30] <TheChampion> sebsebseb: i cant get rid of windows or get rid of it completely though lol, unless there is a way to completely wipe my hd?
[23:30] <earthen> ClevelandRock, ho sorry i clicked on another link I have the bluetooth version of that head set sorry
[23:30] <kevr> suicidepills: sorry bud, i dont have any idea what to do. I have had no windows computers in my house for a good while.
[23:31] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: yes there is,  but realistically there may be a good enough reason to have Windows on there,  hence why I suggest maybe doing a clean install
[23:31] <Ego_Proctor> co
[23:31] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: I mean if Windows isn't working properly, you have a problem to sort out
[23:31] <earthen> ClevelandRock, so yours should work i think
[23:31] <ClevelandRock> @earthen What do you mean/
[23:31] <ClevelandRock> ^?
[23:31] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: Ubuntu isn't always the magic solution to  Windows problems
[23:31] <idefixx> kevr: you can use samaba without windows you know ;)
[23:31] <suicidepills> kevr, how do you prefer to share files?
[23:31] <Juniksz> Hello! When I login a TTY interface, and then i've entering the "exit" command (or just press Ctrl + D), it appears I logged out. Then when I wanna shutdown the system from the X, it didn't halt the system, because it says there is a TTY login. Why?
[23:32] <earthen> ClevelandRock, i thought i had the same headset as you but mine is Bluetooth
[23:32] <visitor2> Jordan_U: I will have to do everything for them, presumably with scripts unless they have me ssh in (or nx)
[23:32] <TheChampion> sebsebseb:  i know, but i cant even access windows is my problem, my files are so corrupted i cant even get it to load, is there a way to wipe your hd from bios?
[23:32] <ClevelandRock> earthen: But what do you mean mine should work? Like I said, I think I screwed up the alsamixer settings or something.
[23:32] <earthen> ClevelandRock,  your connects via wires doesn't it
[23:32] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: no, but there are bootable CD's that can do it, such as The Ultimate Boot CD
[23:32] <ClevelandRock> earthen: Yes.
[23:32] <visitor2> Jordan_U: or when we are in the same city, do it live -- not likely
[23:32] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: also maybe you have a virus on Windows or something, that is making it freeze
[23:33] <Jordan_U> visitor2: I'd go with standard Ubuntu then.
[23:33] <kevr> suicidepills: ssh and rsync
[23:33] <chris_> sebsebseb: or dban.
[23:33] <sebsebseb> chris_: yes, which is also on that CD
[23:33] <visitor2> the most recent?
[23:33] <earthen> ClevelandRock, I mean you should be able to get yours to work since it is wired
[23:33] <chris_> sebsebseb: hm, afaik wasn't UBCD proprietary?
[23:33] <suicidepills> kevr, do you use any UI for that or do you go all cmd?
[23:33] <chris_> or am i thinking of something elese
[23:33] <visitor2> I will install and set up all sorts of stuff for them before sending them the cards
[23:33] <chris_> oh wait, i'm thinking of ERD, never mind
[23:33] <ClevelandRock> earthen: But, again, I think I screwed up my alsamixer settings or something.
[23:33] <kevr> suicidepills: all cmd, but there are UIs
[23:33] <sebsebseb> chris_: however last time I  cleaned  a hard disk, the other computers,  I ended up using some other program, since dban was being odd, dban itself, but also on the CD
[23:33] <TheChampion> sebsebseb:  maybe :|, but i cant even get into safe mode to clean it, ill look up that ultimate boot cd
[23:34] <sebsebseb> chris_: no its freeware or something
[23:34] <chris_> sebsebseb: yeah, was thinking of ERDBC
[23:34] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: have you got data on there?
[23:34] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: I mean thats a CD that can be used to get rid of everything on the hard disk
[23:34] <TheChampion> sebsebseb:  nothing i cant do without, is this the site for it btw? http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[23:34] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: yeah
[23:34] <suicidepills> kevr, cool i'll check that out.  i'll need samba in the meantime 'cause i have a bunch of windows computers on my network but i can get by with editing the smb.conf manually
[23:34] <earthen> ClevelandRock, OK I'm not sure if i can help you there sorry
[23:34] <TheChampion> sebsebseb:  thanks ill try that
[23:34] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: then put Windows on first
[23:34] <Shadowsong> Hello
[23:34] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: well if your going ot have Windows on dual boot
[23:35] <visitor2> Jordan_U: i haven't tried the latest ubuntu yet, would you recommend that for them?
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> TheChampion: remember to partition windows to a portion of the space available
[23:35] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: and then you can dual boot with Ubuntu as well a bit later on
[23:35] <alket> I was at gimp channel but no one replied, how can I transform black color to blue ?
[23:35] <TheChampion> sebsebseb:  ya ill do windows first since i cant get ubuntu to recognize my tv
[23:35] <visitor2> one child one adult computer-phobic person and a normal adult Jordan_U
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> Technoviking: rather than using the default 100%, this will save you having to mess with resizing
[23:35] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: and if there are still problems after using that CD, to clean out your hard disk, with Windows,  well  you got hardware issues I guess
[23:36] <Jordan_U> visitor2: Yes. In fact I would highly discourage using anything older for this purpose.
[23:36] <TheChampion> sebsebseb:  time to try that ultimate boot cd, thanks for the help
[23:36] <visitor2> Jordan_U: and me
[23:36] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: well yes thats one reason, another is this, if you were to do Ubuntu first then put WIndows on,  Windows would go over the Grub bootloader, so only Windows can boot up
[23:36] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: and re  configuring the bootloader can be a right pain
[23:36] <TheChampion> sebsebseb:  that would be bad haha
[23:36] <Jordan_U> visitor2: Plus, with the newest Ubuntu you won't have to make excuses for it being brown :)
[23:36] <Shadowsong> I've been reading various sites on web hosting servers. I've been wondering why they always tell you that you "have to" install a dns server?
[23:37] <visitor2> ok, so make a live usb to install from and create standard installs on the sd and usb cards
[23:37] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: anyway three hard disk cleaning tools on that CD you can try
[23:37] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: I think only three
[23:37] <visitor2> Jordan_U: excellent point, especially for the child who would hate it
[23:37] <suicidepills> if i wanted to talk to the devs of share-admin, how could i do that?  is there a dev channel or a dev forum?
[23:37] <visitor2> is it true that hald is gone?
[23:37]  * sebsebseb likes the old brown human-clearlooks theme, the one before 9.10 :)
[23:37] <sebsebseb> visitor2: yes no HAL in 10.04
[23:38] <visitor2> and that you have to use pulseaudio
[23:38] <chris_> hm
[23:38] <chris_> is there any way to get apt-get to ignore hash sum mismatches?
[23:38] <TheChampion> sebsebseb:  alright thanks
[23:38] <visitor2> how dreadful
[23:38] <Shadowsong> anyone know?
[23:38] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: sometimes you need to use a CD such as the one I mentioned
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> visitor2: you can theme ubuntu as you wish, default means very little
[23:38] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: since  virsues in Windows and such, can cause issues when it comes to re installing
[23:39] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: for example  it seems we had one on our family computer  not that long ago,  and  the XP CD was even blue screen of deathing. and trying to boot XP gave a right error message, and so on
[23:39] <visitor2> ActionParsnip: yes but this is for others who don't know how to and I would get blamed for the choices.  It the defaults I can blame it on someone else.
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> Shadowsong: sounds weird, I'd just go alog with it
[23:39] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: and data disappared whilst using The Ultimate Boot CD for Windows.   anyway good luck
[23:39] <TheChampion> sebsebseb:  luckily i dont think its a virus though, rather my monitor was constantly going out during start up, so id reboot during startup in hopes my monitor would start working again
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> visitor2: i guess, but users need to realise they can chnage stuff
[23:40] <kashif> hi
[23:40] <devyll> how can I set my external microphone to play through speakers in ubuntu 10.04 ?  (in realtime)
[23:40] <devyll> ?
[23:40] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: well then a normal format using  the Windows or Ubuntu CD would work or whatever
[23:40] <Shadowsong> I just don't get why you would need a dns server for a web hosting server.
[23:40] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: just need a monitor that keeps the image on the screen for long enough
[23:40] <visitor2> ActionParsnip: for the normal adult yes, but the child and computer-phobic adult - no such luck
[23:40] <kashif> can any body help me on bind10 setup
[23:41] <Dulak> Shadowsong: how would domain->ip mapping happen without dns?
[23:41] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: also you haven't been messing around in your BIOS right?  except for maybe changing the boot order.  if so  that could be why you have a probelm
[23:41] <Shadowsong> through the domain you buy from somewhere like godaddy.com
[23:41] <TheChampion> sebsebseb:  yeah. is the ubcd for linux? because theres a site for ubcd4windows
[23:41] <TheChampion> sebsebseb:  yeah all i did was change the boot order
[23:41] <earthen> gparted is not seeing my USB hard drive does anyone know how to make it see it
[23:42] <visitor2> can anyone tell me why the default is to have Ctrl+Alt+Backspace,  Ctrl+Alt+Fn etc
[23:42] <Dulak> Shadowsong: domain registration is not the same as dns
[23:42] <visitor2> disabled
[23:42] <Shadowsong> buy domain, assign to your ip
[23:42] <visitor2> that seems like insanity
[23:42] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: yes UBCD is a bootable Linux distro with tools on it.  Can use a legal copy of Windows and make own bootable Live CD  with some tools using the other one.
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> earthen: did you change the device in the devices menu? Does the disk show up in: sudo fdisk -l  ?
[23:42] <TheChampion> sebsebseb:  oh ok, well im going to try that, so thanks for the help
[23:42] <Dulak> Shadowsong: my registrar charges for dns on top of the domain
[23:42] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: so the OS/s that are on there when it comes to UBCD is irevelivent doesn't matter
[23:43] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: UBCD?
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> ultimate bootcd
[23:43] <Dulak> Shadowsong: the docs you are reading are aimed at isp type setups, if dns is handled you don't need bind
[23:43] <visitor2>  Ctrl+Alt+Backspace,  Ctrl+Alt+Fn etc  are critical if anything goes wrong.  what were people thinking?
[23:43] <BiggFREE> UBCD is done for Windows XP
[23:43] <TheChampion> sebsebseb:  ultimate boot cd
[23:44] <BiggFREE> I tried it
[23:44] <sebsebseb> BiggFREE: yes indeed
[23:44] <earthen> ActionParsnip, it doesn't show up in the drop down list in gparted if thats what you mean
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> BiggFREE: how do you mean "done for windows xp"?
[23:44] <TheChampion> so it doesn't matter if i use that one or the windows version?
[23:44] <sebsebseb> will clean out a hard disk and what not, whatever OS/s are on there
[23:44] <BiggFREE> It is not perfect :(
[23:44] <idefixx> kashif: have you got a specific problem with bind or do you want general info? because well you should know a little something about dns/tcp/subneting etc., and its not that difficult to read up on bind if you do.
[23:44] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: the Windows version uhmm
[23:44] <BiggFREE> Only
[23:44] <Jordan_U> visitor2: ctrl+alt+Fn works the same way it always has, as does alt+sysrq+K which is more reliable than ctrl+alt+backspace anyway.
[23:44] <earthen> ActionParsnip, but ubuntu see it. it puts an icon on the desktop and i can brows it just fine
[23:44] <Shadowsong> Dulak, huh?
[23:44] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: well you need to be on Windows for a start, get there program, have your WIndows CD, and make your own UBCD for win using that, takes quite a long while
[23:45] <BiggFREE> Read vcarefully on the web.
[23:45] <TheChampion> oh
[23:45] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: you only need the standard UBCD for what your doing
[23:45] <BiggFREE> carefully
[23:45] <TheChampion> alright ill use that one then, thanks, i was kind of confused
[23:45] <kizi86> hi folkz what is the command to upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 in terminal?
[23:45] <Dulak> Shadowsong: I will say that a large majority of providers handle thier own dns though.  It does not look professional to sell hosting where you can't also handle dns
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> TheChampion: just burn the ISO / transfer to USB and boot, you dont need windows at all
[23:45] <TheChampion> gotcha
[23:45] <Shadowsong> why?
[23:45] <prakriti> What script keeps running this: SELECT data_free FROM tables WHERE ENGINE = 'InnoDB' LIMIT 1
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> earthen: does the fdisk output show the disk?
[23:45] <Dulak> Shadowsong: are you wanting to just host your own sites or resell hosting?
[23:45] <Shadowsong> i still don't see a reason to run a dns server
[23:46] <Shadowsong> resell hosting
[23:46] <visitor2> oh Jordan_U they didnt on the last ubuntu I tried.  Of course it isnt hard to get them to work, but I couldn;t understand the reasoning
[23:46] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: maybe the UBCD will stop showing on the TV after a while as well, if so you can't use it at the moment
[23:46] <Dulak> Shadowsong: dns is not the same as registering a domain, it's seperate
[23:46] <kashif> idefixx: when i am doing configure bind 10-devel-20100602
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> Shadowsong: makes name resolution very quick and can speed up the web
[23:47] <Shadowsong> so why do i need a dns server for web hosting?
[23:47] <visitor2> ok off the buy the cards and sticks to do this thanks for the help idefixx and Jordan_U et al
[23:47] <Dulak> Shadowsong: as a provider
[23:47] <kizi86> am i invisible here or?
[23:47] <sebsebseb> kizi86: no
[23:47] <TheChampion> sebsebseb:  might as well try, oddly enough my monitor is working fine at the moment
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Shadowsong: no idea, contact the guide makers and ask them
[23:47] <sebsebseb> kizi86:  well not when you type something anyway
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> kizi86: no, wassup?
[23:47] <Dulak> Shadowsong: so domains will resolve
[23:47] <kizi86> well look up a bit
[23:47] <idefixx> Shadowsong: you don't you can simply enter the hosts ip.. unless you need vhosts
[23:47] <BiggFREE> You can create you ISO UBCD by using Windows XP only.  After booting is possible.
[23:47] <kizi86> i asked a question not long ago
[23:47] <visitor2> I see you kizi86
[23:48] <warewolf> wow
[23:48] <Jordan_U> visitor2: You're welcome. Remember to install grub to the stick and not your hard drive, it's an option from the "advanced" button on the last screen of the installer.
[23:48] <belkinsa> I smell bots...
[23:48] <warewolf> yeah that was damn quick
[23:48] <BiggFREE> From Windows XP only (Setting up first)
[23:48] <earthen> ActionParsnip, what command do i use to list hard drives fdisk -l or something?
[23:48] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: well if your hardware so RAM and such, can handle it.  virtual machineing WIndows inside Ubuntu is well rather :)  for most stuff not 3D WIndows games though.  anyway this is something you may want to do later on
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> BiggFREE: i think you are confusing ultimate boot cd with bart pe
[23:49] <BiggFREE> It is a mess :(
[23:49] <belkinsa> I thought they are working on killing a spam of here?
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> earthen: sudo fdisk -l
[23:49] <idefixx> kashif: was that everything... shouldn't there be something like "... bad things happen" at the end of that sentence?
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> BiggFREE: they are drastically different
[23:49] <Dulak> Shadowsong: I think you need to read up on how dns works.  If you want to sell hosting you will also be running dns for your customers, as that's an expected feature of hosting
[23:49] <kizi86> if you dont see what i wrote i shall write it again, what is the command to upgrade my distro from the terminal? im using 9.10 and want to upgrade to 10.04
[23:49] <BiggFREE> Yes It is Bart pe
[23:49] <BiggFREE> I am talking about.
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> BiggFREE: ultimate boot cd is not bart pe
[23:49] <TheChampion> sebsebseb:  seems like it would take a while to get that working, and im not sure my monitor would last that long
[23:49] <bastid_raZor> kizi86: sudo do-release-upgrade
[23:49] <BiggFREE> Sorry :(999999999999
[23:49] <kizi86> thank you bastid_raZor
[23:50] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: I meant later on when you have a proper monitor or the TV working properly with Ubuntu
[23:50] <wildbat> hmmm, anyone know y i don't have build-dep package available to install ?
[23:50] <earthen> ActionParsnip, looks like it is there
[23:50] <BiggFREE> I misunderstood you
[23:50] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: and it doesn't take long to set up a virtual machine in Virtualbox :)
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> BiggFREE: http://www.softpedia.com/screenshots/Ultimate-Boot-CD_1.gif
[23:50] <vock> I'm just trying to load from a LiveCD but when it gets to starting gdm all I get are a bunch of tightly packed beige stripes across the screen. It's on both the 32 and 64 bit Ubuntu LiveCDs. The burns should be good, I used them before yesterday on the same machine
[23:50] <ocatacoo> what is a good program to edit or view binary
[23:50] <TheChampion> ah, maybe once i get this working then, because i would like to start running ubuntu
[23:50] <BiggFREE> Thanks :)
[23:50] <idefixx> ocatacoo: vim ^^
[23:50] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: yeah and dual boots are a bit sucky really
[23:51] <kashif> idefixx: how i do fix this problem
[23:51] <sebsebseb> TheChampion: well depends
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> earthen: ok, if you run:  sudo fdisk /dev/diskname    you can use fdisk to partition it then use  mkfs.* to format it
[23:51] <Shadowsong> grrr
[23:51] <Shadowsong> finally
[23:51] <idefixx> kashif: I don't even know what your problem is since you said nothing that indicated any problem
[23:51] <thune3> vock: do you know what brand of graphics chip you have?
[23:52] <vock> thune3: I believe it's nvidia
[23:52] <earthen> ActionParsnip, I don't want to format it I want to copy a partition for it over to my internal hard drive
[23:52] <Gryllida> is there some system setting that makes keyboard behave as if caps lock is on, while it isn't? so that I have to keep caps lock on to type this sentence
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> earthen: then i'd use partimage
[23:52] <idefixx> kashif: unless maybe my irssi killed the last half of your problem description witch i doubt
[23:52] <earthen> ActionParsnip, I switch out my hard drives in my laptop and I want to save my old win XP partition
[23:53] <Shadowsong> only thing I can see a dns server needed for is for personal use in order to speed up web browsing (useful for slow connections)
[23:53] <earthen> ActionParsnip,  ok I'll try that thanks
[23:53] <vock> thune3: Actually i'm wrong, it's an ATI Radeon Xpress 1150, just googled it
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> Gryllida: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5118295
[23:53] <kashif> idefixx: http://pastie.org/1024226 see last line
[23:54] <idefixx> Shadowsong: that would be for you persoanlly... EVERY time you enter 'anydamnname.com' anywehere you ask (or your computer does) a DNS server for an ip for that name.
[23:54] <ennui> does anyone know of a way to color code files/folders in the file browser like in OSX? These emblems just don't cut it I'm afraid
[23:54] <ennui> I'm using Nautilus by the way
[23:54] <thune3> vock: when booting ESC-enter_lang-F6-Esc. Try adding "xforcevesa" to the grub line after quiet splash. This is a workaround, and you will need to find a real fix (maybe installing proprietary drivers) if you choose to install.
[23:55] <idefixx> kashif: why are you tyring to build your own bind? why not install the package from the ubuntu servers?
[23:55] <vock> thune3: that's at the beige screen?
[23:55] <vock> thune3: or during the splash?
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> ennui: right click a folder -> properties. Click the folder icon in the top left and change the icon to something else
[23:55] <thune3> vock: the very first graphics screen with the two icons at the bottom.
[23:55] <kashif> idefixx: it is bind9 i need bind 10
[23:56] <vock> thune3: i'll give it a try
[23:56] <vock> thanks
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> ennui: you can download some folder icons and set them as you wish
[23:56] <Xantios> Hi
[23:56] <osmosis> Can anyone tell my why on lucid, kvm guest instances will sometimes become unresponsive and go to 99% cpu usage???
[23:56] <LinuxUser123> hey gang, i have a situation where i installed a brand new harddrive, installed windows xp and then installed Ubuntu Lucid.   During the install of Lucid, I let the system auto config Grub where the option explains that it will install windows and linux side by side.  I have used this option before on other computers without a problem.  In this case, once ubuntu is done installing, it reboots to a Grub rescue prompt. WHat do I do?
[23:56] <idefixx> kashif: well in that case you should install the boost-libs and sources (i guess) since that is what bind needs to compile
[23:57] <idefixx> kashif: and seriously I doubt you really need bind10 if you dont know what boost is
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> LinuxUser123: boot to livecd and reinstall grub
[23:57] <Xantios> im trying to compile the madwifi drivers @ ubuntu 10.04 , thoug im fairly sure im not missing any dependencies stil its just a crash and burn when i try to run the make command... any suggestions ?
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> Xantios: use http://pastie.org   to give the output of your commands
[23:58] <Jordan_U> Xantios: Why are you trying to compile madwifi drivers?
[23:58] <LinuxUser123> ActionParsnip: booting from cd now....you mean the cd that asks you to either install or try Ubuntu, right?
[23:58] <Xantios> because i want to setup the wireless device in my old laptop to act as an accespoint
[23:58] <cached> top claims that 1.5GB of ram is in use, but none of the programs running are taking more than 40MB (most take much less than that) is there any possibility top isn't showing some things?
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> LinuxUser123: yes, use try ubuntu then you can install grub / tweak the boot
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> cached: can you use a pastebin to copy the output so we can see
[23:59] <LinuxUser123> ActionParsnip: ok, btw, the error before the grub rescue prompt was "no such partition"
[23:59] <Cyrusthebeast> How do you use a .deb? I'm on Ubuntu
[23:59] <vock> thune3: Didn't work, got the stripes again
[23:59] <sha1sum> Anybody know of a good tutorial on mounting FTP directories using LUFS? Apparently google is giving me crap results.
[23:59] <ridin> Cyrusthebeast, double click it
[23:59] <Cyrusthebeast> And from what I saw, .deb is for Debian