[00:00] <lex79> we want Lex in kubuntu-dev team :D
[00:01] <Riddell> lex79: oh aye, good point
[00:02] <Riddell> lex79: what's your launchpad username?
[00:02] <lex79> alessandro-ghersi
[00:02] <Riddell> added, welcome in
[00:03] <lex79> thank you :)
[00:03] <Riddell> thanks for following the process, hope it wasn't too harsh
[00:03] <lex79> seems plasma-scriptengine is in main and depends on plasma-scriptengine-ruby
[00:03] <Riddell> yes that's why it wants to go to main
[00:03] <lex79> should go then
[00:03] <Riddell> I'll just move plasma-scriptengine to universe
[00:04] <lex79> oh ok
[00:08] <lex79> kdebase-workspace-bin is in main and depends on plasma-scriptengine
[00:08] <Quintasan> kubotu: order cookies for lex79 
[00:09]  * kubotu slides a whole bunch of world's finest cookies down the bar to lex79.
[00:09] <Quintasan> lex79: grats :P
[00:09] <Riddell> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4.5  (not on front page yet)
[00:09] <lex79> Quintasan: thank you :-*
[00:10] <Quintasan> Riddell: well, think if Project Neon's Qt will build tomorrow then the rest should work, I'll just copy dependencies from our packages and add everything else to provide everything!
[00:10] <Quintasan> :P
[00:11] <lex79> kdebase-workspace-bin is in seed also
[00:11] <lex79> uhm
[00:12] <lex79> oh ok I wrong :P
[01:02] <ScottK> lex79: kebase-workspace-bin we need.
[01:03] <ScottK> Isn't plasma-scriptengines just a metapackage of all the script engines?
[01:04] <lex79> yes it is
[01:05] <ScottK> Thank I'm reasonably certain kdebase-workpace-bin doesn't need to depend on it.
[01:05] <lex79> kebase-workspace-bin only suggests plasma-scriptengines
[01:05] <ScottK> Thank/Then
[01:05] <ScottK> Ah. OK.
[01:05] <ScottK> That's reasonable.
[01:05] <lex79> I wrong before :)
[01:05] <ScottK> No problem.
[01:05] <ScottK> I was wrong on Sunday and now the Ubuntu Server EC2 images are unbuildable.
[01:06] <ScottK> Some folks are unhappy about that.
[01:06] <lex79> oh :(
[01:06] <ScottK> So guess what I'm doing tonight ...
[01:06] <ScottK> I sort of broke python.
[01:06] <ScottK> Fortunately only in one case.  It just happens that case matters for one image.
[01:06] <lex79> just curiosity, an email to the lists is required when someone join in kubuntu-dev? like for motu or core-dev ?
[01:07] <ScottK> Normally we do that.
[01:07] <ScottK> I'll take care of it later if Riddell doesn't.
[01:07] <lex79> thank you :)
[01:08] <lex79> good luck with python stuff....
[01:08] <ScottK> lex79: Were you MOTU before?
[01:08] <lex79> no I have to apply... :P
[01:11] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1144470 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/Messages.sh Delete utils/qapt-batch/Messages.sh. Dunno why I copied this over from muon, especially since qapt-batch is already handled in the top-level Messages.sh for qapt CCMAIL:aacid@kde.org
[01:14] <lex79> uhm there is no motu meeting soon
[01:14] <lex79> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Meetings
[01:14] <lex79> oh last change in that page was 2009-08-25
[01:15] <lex79> maybe it's the wrong page
[01:18] <lex79> found it, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/Agenda
[02:16] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1144477 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/workerinstallprogress.cpp Run the progress update at 30 frames per second, as to not peg the CPU by reporting progress every waking cycle.
[02:17]  * JontheEchidna hadn't noticed that because it was only taking up one of two cpus
[02:21] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1144479 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (8 files in 3 dirs) Eek, forgot to commit this. Adapt to new libqapt API changes
[05:46] <ScottK> Riddell: I just sent the announcement mail about lex79 joining kubuntu-dev.
[06:55] <fabo> Riddell: for Qt Mobility, yes
[07:21] <NCommander> Riddell: ping?
[07:23] <jussi> o/
[07:52] <fabo> Riddell: I'm starting to work on qmf. It is needed at some point to be feature complete wrt other Qt componenents.
[08:30] <Quintasan> \o
[08:52] <Riddell> i
[08:52] <Riddell> jussi: ring ring?
[09:39] <seaLne> is printing kcmodule known to be broken in lucid with 4.5rc1?
[09:39] <Riddell> hmm, fooey
[09:40] <Riddell> broken here too
[09:43] <amichair> mornin fellas
[09:46] <amichair> if kde 4.4.5 is actually 4.5 RC, why is it in the updates ppa? isn't that for actual releases?
[09:46] <NCommander> Riddell: I'm not sure where to put my BoF :-/
[09:48] <Riddell> amichair: 4.4.5 is not 4.5 RC
[09:48] <Riddell> NCommander: put it anywhere there's a gap?
[09:48] <NCommander> Riddell: does it actually matter that miuch?
[09:49] <amichair> Riddell: so what is it? it's not mentioned on either kde or kubuntu website
[09:50] <Riddell> NCommander: no I don't think it does matter when it goes so long as its not scheduled against something obviously clashing
[09:50] <Riddell> amichair: it's a new release of 4.4, upstream were going to announce it yesterday but didn't get round to it
[09:50] <NCommander> Riddell: Maybe on Wednesday?
[09:50] <Riddell> NCommander: Wednesdays are good
[09:50] <NCommander> or Tuesday at 18:00 (that's a bit late though)
[09:51]  * NCommander rather do it earlier than later
[10:07] <Riddell> apachelogger: I think both me and dholbach would like to know what Widgetcraft is
[10:07] <apachelogger> Riddell: already described it
[10:07] <apachelogger> it is the art of creating plasma widgets ;)
[10:07] <CIA-99> [docmessages] zepires * 1144549 * trunk/l10n-kde4/pt/ (18 files in 10 dirs) Finished HEAD for now
[10:08] <Riddell> ooh
[10:08] <Riddell> amichair: using 4.4.5?
[10:09] <amichair> Riddell: just got it from the ppa
[10:09] <Riddell> amichair: any problems?
[10:09] <amichair> Riddell: in the first 90 seconds - no :-)
[10:10] <amichair> (not to say there were problem after that - but I just finished the installation)
[10:10] <Riddell> good, now stop using it before you find problems :)
[10:11] <amichair> ok, I'll just try to brick my router with a firmware upgrade, and then I'll call it quits :-)
[10:11] <jussi> trying to import mozilla bookmarks in to konqui with the RC1 http://pastebin.com/4KbC4U0B
[10:13] <Riddell> jussi: upstream issue I'd say -> bugs.kde.org
[10:15] <jussi> what form do b.k.o logins take? (on a new install here, have got my usernames and passwords available)
[10:15] <jussi> is it email address? or?
[10:16] <Riddell> e-mail yes
[10:16] <amichair> jussi: email
[10:16] <jussi> ahh thanks, Im in now. :)
[10:18] <Riddell> fabo: what's the issue with qmf?  why is it different from any other part of qt mobility?
[10:23] <jussi> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=243236
[10:25] <jussi> can someone confirm that? ^
[10:25] <ulysses> let's see
[10:26] <fabo> Riddell: it's a new package (messaging framework), we don't have it. It's more and more used.
[10:27] <fabo> Riddell: for Qt Mobility, it means a missing API/feature.
[10:27] <Quintasan> jussi: yup, crashes
[10:27] <Quintasan> every time
[10:29] <Riddell> fabo: so it's a separate tar from qt mobility?
[10:29] <fabo> yeah
[10:29] <Riddell> I wonder why
[10:30] <fabo> Riddell: it's a completely separate module
[10:30] <fabo> Riddell: http://qt.gitorious.org/qt-labs/messagingframework
[10:30] <Riddell> but then that's better than including the same thing in both qt and qt mobility (multimedia)
[10:31] <fabo> Riddell: no, you don't understand me, they don't overlap, qmf is another build-dep of mobility.
[10:45] <amichair> Riddell: Configure File Sharing dialog doesn't open (but I can't tell if it broke on 4.4.5 or earlier... it's been a while)
[10:53] <Riddell> fabo: oh qmf is a backend to a mobility API?
[10:53] <Riddell> amichair: that's been broken for years, rbelem is hoping to fix it
[10:53] <amichair> Riddell: ah, ok. And good :-)
[10:56] <fabo> Riddell: http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/category/qtmessaging/
[12:05] <CIA-99> [docmessages] zepires * 1144608 * trunk/l10n-kde4/pt/ (52 files in 20 dirs) Finished HEAD for now
[12:08] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: ^
[12:09] <Riddell> anyone onto k3b 2.0?
[12:38] <Riddell> ryanakca: hmm, I looked at the website in the wrong way and it broke, are you able to click the publish button on https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/node/158/edit ?
[12:48] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: pong
[12:48] <Riddell> good morning JontheEchidna 
[12:49] <JontheEchidna> good morning
[12:49] <ofirk> hello everyone !
[12:50] <ofirk> Is it true that Dreamworks are using Kubuntu?
[12:50] <Riddell> not that I know of, but Weta Digital do
[12:52] <ofirk> good!
[12:52] <Riddell> bulldog98: rekonq daily not compiling?
[12:53] <Riddell> "Missing build dependencies: glib-dev"
[12:54] <ofirk> Riddell: thanks a lot!
[12:56] <Quintasan> ofirk: \o
[12:56] <Quintasan> smarter: \o
[12:56] <smarter> o/
[12:57] <ofirk> Quintasan: hi
[12:58] <ofirk> Riddell: the source for Weta Digital using Kubuntu is http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2010/01/39000-core-ubuntu-cluster-renders.html ?
[12:58] <Riddell> yes
[13:02] <amichair> ofirk: may I pm?
[13:03] <ofirk> amichair: ok
[13:13] <ryanakca> Riddell: Aye, published
[13:13] <Riddell> thanks
[13:14]  * ryanakca patiently waits for the sysadmins to make Ofir's site live :)
[13:14] <Riddell> any day now...
[13:28]  * Riddell wonders what to pack for Finland
[13:28] <jussi> Riddell: you have spare space? head down the store for me then...
[13:29] <jussi> Double cream plskthxbai
[13:29] <jussi> and scampi flavoured crisps
[13:29] <jussi> and and and...
[13:31] <Riddell> you don't ask for things which travel easily do you :)
[13:32] <jussi> *G*
[13:42] <asac_> ScottK: hola. shall i review alf__'s qt-qws package for sponsoring? or is there a official kubuntu-devel procedure to follow?
[13:42] <ofirk> ryanakca: I am waiting too :) I am in contact with him. He is very helpful and I hope we will launch it in a week
[13:51] <Riddell> asac_: nothing official except have it reviewed, I wouldn't mind a look too, where is it?
[13:53] <asac_> Riddell: one sec
[13:53] <asac_> alf__: can you give riddell your .dsc location?
[13:53] <asac_> for qt-qws=?
[13:54] <asac_> Riddell: we probably will tweak maintainer to have Linaro User Platforms etc. in it so its clear we commit to maintain it; so dont sponsor directly if its ok. let me know so can do the final modifications and push
[13:54] <asac_> Riddell: https://edge.launchpad.net/~afrantzis/+archive/qt4-qws/+files/qt4-qws_4.7.0~beta1+git20100522-0ubuntu1~alf3.dsc
[13:54] <asac_> alf__: let him know if thats not recent or something
[13:59] <alf__> asac_, Riddell: That is the latest I have
[14:30] <shadeslayer> \o
[14:34] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ill poke the k3b stuff... hope it doesnt bite :P
[14:35] <shadeslayer> oooohhhh
[14:35] <shadeslayer> new ISO build!
[14:36] <shadeslayer> bah.. K3b haz been done :)
[15:15] <ulysses> KDE 4.4.5 announced
[15:19] <shadeslayer> ulysses: i guess its in the PPA...
[15:19] <ulysses> shadeslayer: sure, but it wasn't announced until now ;)
[15:20] <shadeslayer> Nightrose: your box fixed? 
[15:20] <shadeslayer> ulysses: :P
[15:20] <maco> jjesse: weird seeing you referred to as jonathan j instead of jjesse
[15:20] <jjesse> sorry
[15:20] <jjesse> :)
[15:21] <jjesse> on yelp
[15:21] <jjesse> i think because it is pulling info from facebook
[15:21] <maco> ah
[15:21] <maco> yelp filters my reviews out
[15:21] <jjesse> the orginial username was jjesse
[15:21] <jjesse> what do you mean filters your reviews out?
[15:21] <maco> i think its because i only review really awesome places and really crappy places and no "meh" places
[15:22] <maco> at the bottom of a restaurant's page theres "X filtered reviews" click it to see the filtered ones
[15:22] <maco> they dont contribute to the star rating
[15:22] <maco> some algorithm to determine if you're a plant
[15:23] <maco> jjesse: http://www.yelp.com/faq#whyFilter
[15:24] <jjesse> wierd my reviews show up does that make me a more established reviewer?
[15:24] <jjesse> dont' understand that
[15:24] <maco> youve done 30 reviews, so yeah
[15:24] <maco> ive only done 6
[15:25] <jjesse> ah
[15:26] <CIA-99> [docmessages] yurchor * 1144686 * trunk/l10n-kde4/uk/ (15 files in 9 dirs) SVN_SILENT Ukrainian translation update
[15:32] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: could bug 600197 be caused by the new pkg-kde-tools translations crack?
[15:34] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: nope
[15:34] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: seems like missing files in .install
[15:34]  * shadeslayer was just going over that bug :D
[15:34] <shadeslayer> cp po/desktop_extragear-graphics_digikam.pot po/desktop_extragear-graphics_digikamimageplugins.pot
[15:34] <JontheEchidna> ^that comes after the install target, nothing to do with .install files
[15:35] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: no i mean the translations are not correctly installed 
[15:35] <shadeslayer> cp: cannot stat `po/desktop_extragear-graphics_digikam.pot': No such file or directory << probably changed name or something
[15:35] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: btw this bug is in which version?
[15:36]  * shadeslayer cant figure that part out
[15:36] <JontheEchidna> the current version...
[15:36] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: ah.. but thats already built isnt it
[15:36] <JontheEchidna> it's a rebuild that failed
[15:36] <shadeslayer> quite similar to 600177
[15:37] <shadeslayer> oh...
[15:37] <JontheEchidna> 600177 is a totally different problem
[15:38] <shadeslayer> i think i saw the same failure about 2-3 months ago
[15:38] <shadeslayer> on the git build..
[15:39] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: btw after a package gets a rebuild,how is it superseded in the archives?
[15:39] <JontheEchidna> it's just a rebuild test. it doesn't ever get published
[15:39] <shadeslayer> since the version is essentially the same
[15:39] <shadeslayer> ohhh..
[15:39] <JontheEchidna> anyhow, I still suspect that the new pkg-kde-tools crack is causing the .pot not to be generated
[15:39] <shadeslayer> and why do we need a rebuild?
[15:39] <JontheEchidna> to test for failures
[15:40] <shadeslayer> Riddell: \o
[16:23] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: very possible
[16:23] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: think the rebuild environ. doesn't set the stuff as it would appear in the main archive?
[16:24] <apachelogger> then it should just not do that translation foo
[16:24] <apachelogger> man
[16:24] <apachelogger> I hate pkg-kde-tools
[16:24] <JontheEchidna> We have a cp of the .pot hardcoded in debian/rules
[16:24] <falktx> hi guys
[16:24] <JontheEchidna> for some reason
[16:24] <apachelogger> if this thing had any less structure and any more build systems it would be sooo BRRR
[16:24] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: well, that would obviously fail then
[16:24] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: what is the exact line?
[16:25] <apachelogger> ah
[16:25] <apachelogger> ehm
[16:25] <apachelogger> well
[16:25] <apachelogger> you know
[16:25] <JontheEchidna> cp po/desktop_extragear-graphics_digikam.pot po/desktop_extragear-graphics_digikamimageplugins.pot
[16:25] <apachelogger> this whole translation stuff is so dirty messy ugly fckd screwed and ewwww that I could go die right away just because of that
[16:25] <falktx> quick question - will kde 4.5.0 packages be uploaded to kubuntu updates? or it will always be on the beta ppa?
[16:26] <apachelogger> in fact I had plenty of other reasons to die right away, but that whole craps is making it all even worse
[16:26] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: needs an if file exists do that foo
[16:26] <apachelogger> or cp -f should do the job too, or -cp ...
[16:26] <apachelogger> doubtlessly if pot exists is more lovely though
[16:26] <tsimpson> falktx: we don't use kubuntu.org for packages any more, we only used it because there was no better option. PPA are that better option :)
[16:27] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: and report a bug against pkg-kde-tools to incorporate a solution for that particular problem + assing to me + subscribe me
[16:27] <falktx> tsimpson: just need to know for sure that kde 4.5.0 will not go to the kubuntu updates ppa
[16:27] <apachelogger> kthxbai -> need to go back to maths *scared*
[16:27] <falktx> ?
[16:27] <JontheEchidna> falktx: kubuntu backports (but not beta backports)
[16:27] <shadeslayer> falktx: probably not
[16:28] <falktx> any way to know for sure?
[16:28] <falktx> so kde 4.4.5 in updates and kde 4.5.x in backports ?
[16:28] <apachelogger> what JontheEchidna said is for sure
[16:28] <apachelogger> there is a whole policy around what goes where
[16:29] <apachelogger> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuPPAs
[16:29] <shadeslayer> apachelogger designed it himself :P
[16:30] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: bug 600197
[16:30] <falktx> thanks, good docs
[16:30] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: now : This is a problem with the translations setup in pkg-kde-tools. that is wrong :P
[16:31] <JontheEchidna> feel free to correct
[16:58] <JontheEchidna> Which layout is better? This: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopvx1583-jpg.jpg or this: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopfm1583-jpg.jpg ?
[16:59] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: first one
[16:59] <JontheEchidna> (stuff will go below the boxes)
[16:59] <shadeslayer> http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopvx1583-jpg.jpg << that one :P
[16:59] <Riddell> people needed to help with alpha 2
[17:00] <Riddell> not immediately but over the next 24 hours
[17:00] <shadeslayer> Riddell: \o
[17:00] <shadeslayer> thou wish is my command
[17:00] <Riddell> I need to get an early night tonight to fly to Finland at 4 in the morning so I can't do it
[17:00] <shadeslayer> but... does it have btrfs support
[17:00] <Riddell> currently we have images which are broken with bug 600244
[17:01] <Riddell> so someone needs to sit on #ubuntu-release and watch for the new images being built
[17:01] <Riddell> also subscribe to the kubuntu cases on iso.qa.ubuntu.com
[17:01] <Riddell> ensure they get tested, report back, etc
[17:01] <saidinesh5> JontheEchidna: the second one
[17:02] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I'm afraid I had to disable google voice talk in kopete, it brought in libavcodecs and that can't go on the CD for legal reasons
[17:02] <Riddell> it'll need split out into a separate binary package
[17:02] <shadeslayer> aww..
[17:02] <Riddell> (after alpha 2)
[17:02] <shadeslayer> ok..
[17:03] <shadeslayer> will poke it after main is opened 
[17:03] <shadeslayer> or maybe tonight.. 
[17:03] <shadeslayer> if i can get neon sorted out... :P
[17:05] <Riddell> yo Sime, going to akademy?
[17:18] <maco> Riddell:  SRUable?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-qt4/+bug/590140 
[17:20] <shadeslayer> Riddell: oh can you SRU this bug 565376 as well
[17:36] <apachelogger> Qt 4.6 had QtMultimedia?
[17:37] <apachelogger> oh indeed, scary
[17:59] <maco> apachelogger: for school im doing an experiment in converting dragon direct from c++ to python. sebas thinks this is masochistic. it actually wasnt *too* awful til i hit that bug
[18:02] <apachelogger> Oo
[18:02] <apachelogger> oh dear
[18:02] <apachelogger> maco: I am with sebas :P
[18:02] <apachelogger> and not just because of python :P
[18:02] <maco> well finding out python doesnt like circular imports was annoying too...until i realised i could just put both classes in one file and call it a day
[18:12] <maco> apachelogger: lucid has 4.7 anyway
[18:14] <apachelogger> maco: your's might :P
[18:14] <apachelogger> !info libqt4
[18:14] <apachelogger> !info libqt4-core
[18:14] <apachelogger> see :P
[18:14] <maco> !info python-qt4
[18:15] <apachelogger> python-qt4 is not part of Qt
[18:15] <maco> well i'm using python
[18:15] <maco> so i care about the python version :P
[18:18] <apachelogger> maco: the python version is only a cheap rip off of the real deal, so... :P
[18:20] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1144735 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (MainWindow.cpp MainWindow.h) Don't allow quitting during the middle of a commit
[18:25] <JontheEchidna> KMainWindow::queryExit() should really be in KApplication :/
[18:26] <JontheEchidna> I'd like to use it with qapt-batch, too
[18:26] <JontheEchidna> but it's a KDialog-based app
[18:27] <JontheEchidna> I suppose I could re-implement KApplication::quit
[18:29] <JontheEchidna> but it's not a virtual function :(
[18:36] <maco> lp doesnt work well in rekonq
[18:36] <maco> rekonq just spins its gears never finishing loading some pages, like the "add a gpg key" page
[18:46] <Nightrose> shadeslayer: nope :/   i gave up and will reinstall after akademy
[18:46] <Nightrose> now that i know that i can keep my /home thanks to Riddell that is still sucky but a lot less than having to move all my data
[18:47] <Nightrose> Riddell: btw any chance you have a 10.4 CD for me at akademy to take home? :)
[18:55] <shadeslayer> Nightrose: too bad :(
[18:56] <lex79> ScottK: thanks for sent the email :)
[18:56] <Nightrose> indeed but well i've upgraded this box for so long at some point an upgrade had to fail badly...
[18:56] <ScottK> lex79: You're welcome.
[18:56] <Nightrose> so far they all failed but the problems were always minor compared to this
[18:57] <neversfelde> lex79: congratulations
[18:57] <lex79> thanks neversfelde
[19:02] <shadeslayer> lex79: poke
[19:03] <lex79> shadeslayer: o/
[19:03] <shadeslayer> lex79: now im going to take advantage of you and get stuff sponsored into main
[19:03] <lex79> :)
[19:03] <shadeslayer> lex79: im working on bug 264752
[19:04] <shadeslayer> the patch is already attached,ill attach a debdiff in a few moments,can you sponsor it?
[19:04] <lex79> main is frozen
[19:05] <shadeslayer> lex79: i mean after it gets un frozen :P
[19:05] <shadeslayer> after alpha 2...
[19:05] <shadeslayer> or is it hard frozen? :(
[19:06] <lex79> I can upload that package, but I'd like to upload only kde related packages, you shold poke some core-dev
[19:06] <shadeslayer> lex79: hehe.. well.. i like to fix *buntu
[19:07] <shadeslayer> not just k :P
[19:07] <lex79> I'm a kubuntu-developer, not core-dev :)
[19:07] <shadeslayer> lex79: ok,advice needed,what do i call that package ? :P
[19:07] <shadeslayer> s/package/patch
[19:08] <lex79> maybe fix_user_status_detection
[19:08] <lex79> .diff
[19:09] <shadeslayer> hmm.. and do i need to add the patching to debian/rules
[19:09] <lex79> I didn't see the package shadeslayer, so dunno
[19:10] <shadeslayer> lex79: http://pastebin.com/YpkmYsDv << rules file
[19:10] <shadeslayer> no source/format
[19:10]  * shadeslayer thinks that we will need a patching system
[19:11] <lex79> are there other patches in that package?
[19:11] <shadeslayer> nope
[19:12] <lex79> maybe you can do the patch with quilt...and add quilt to build-deps
[19:13] <shadeslayer> hmm..
[19:14] <lex79> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/PatchSystems
[19:14] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1144754 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp package.cpp) Ssshhh...
[19:14] <maco> so dunno if any of you are interested in made-for-linux laptops/desktops, but there's a Q&A about to happen in #zareason with the owners of the company. that's the company i bought my laptop from (and yeah, they ship kubuntu)
[19:15] <shadeslayer> maco: the ones which ship the Ubuntu logo on the Meta key ?
[19:16]  * shadeslayer joins anyway 
[19:20] <maco> shadeslayer: yeah
[19:20] <shadeslayer> zareason++ 
[19:37] <shadeslayer> lex79: btw can i remove the ## in patches? ( the part in the README )
[19:38] <lex79> if the comments in the header of the patches are useful why you want to do that?
[19:39] <shadeslayer> lex79: oh no no,im authoring those comments,so i want to know,that do we have to remove the ## part in the starting :P
[19:39] <ScottK> Did anyone look at porting konq-plugins to Qt 4.7 yet?
[19:39] <ScottK> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/konq-plugins/4:4.4.0-2/+build/1844855/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-i386.konq-plugins_4:4.4.0-2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[19:40] <neversfelde> anyone else having problems with pbuilder on Maverick? Everytime I start a process everything gets freezed
[19:44] <JontheEchidna> http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopay1583-jpg.jpg
[19:45] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: i swear... you need to ship muon in 10.10
[19:45] <shadeslayer> or is Moo-on :P
[19:45] <JontheEchidna> It....
[19:45]  * JontheEchidna puts on sunglasses
[19:45] <JontheEchidna> has super cow powers
[19:45] <shadeslayer> +it
[19:45] <JontheEchidna> YEEEEEAAAAAH
[19:46] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: it cant be... super cow powers were removed from *buntu
[19:46] <JontheEchidna> sudo apt-get moo
[19:47] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: the cow does not need sudo :P
[19:47] <JontheEchidna> well, yeah
[19:47] <JontheEchidna> habit :P
[19:47] <shadeslayer> hehe :D
[19:48] <JontheEchidna> But, in all seriousness, I'd like to let it cook until 11.04
[19:48] <shadeslayer> :(
[19:48] <JontheEchidna> We've never, ever had a good experience rushing to the latest-n-greatest package manager
[19:48] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Come on.  It wouldn't be Kubuntu if we weren't prematurely switching to half baked package managers.
[19:48] <JontheEchidna> but I will make some form of Muon available for 10.10 users
[19:48] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: ;)
[19:49] <lex79> ScottK: indeed :)
[19:50] <JontheEchidna> http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopii1583-jpg.jpg
[19:50] <shadeslayer> ScottK: :P
[19:50] <lex79> uhm
[19:50] <lex79> good
[19:50] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: you killed it :P
[19:50] <shadeslayer> on purpose :o
[19:50] <ScottK> Riddell: Are we ditching the netbook image yet?
[19:51] <shadeslayer> lex79: quilt isnt helping
[19:52] <lex79> why?
[19:52]  * shadeslayer thinks about switching to source format 3
[19:52] <shadeslayer> lex79: http://pastebin.com/50PUXZN9
[19:53] <shadeslayer> without quilt it works
[19:53] <lex79> uhm
[19:55]  * shadeslayer goes to fix qipmsg till then
[19:55] <JontheEchidna> well
[19:56] <JontheEchidna> the good news is that I think I just fixed it
[19:56] <JontheEchidna> (that crash)
[19:56] <JontheEchidna> hmm, and that usually means that there's also bad news
[19:56] <JontheEchidna> but
[19:56] <JontheEchidna> I can' t think of any
[19:56] <JontheEchidna> \o/
[19:59] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1144766 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/DetailsTabs/ (TechnicalDetailsTab.cpp TechnicalDetailsTab.h) Add maintainer, section, and source package labels to the Technical Details tab
[20:00] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1144767 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs) Change the package when the selection is changed, not only when a package is clicked. This means that the selected package and the details tab are always in sync. Also fix a crash that sprung up because of that change
[20:02] <JontheEchidna> That was the only crash I knew of
[20:05] <JontheEchidna> nice,latest xorg-common upgrade is 1 MB less on disk
[20:06] <CIA-99> [messages] aacid * 1144768 * trunk/l10n-kde4/ (5 files in 5 dirs) delete muon was a mistake
[20:06] <JontheEchidna> ^(I accidentally made a muon.po for qapt-batch)
[20:06] <JontheEchidna> ^.^
[20:13]  * shadeslayer pokes Adityab with kubuntu stick
[20:13] <ulysses>  /var/cache/apt/archives/krita_1%3a2.2.0-1~pre1ubuntu2_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[20:13] <Adityab> Anyone working on fingerprint recognition? Is there a PAM module integrated in (k)ubuntu ?
[20:13] <ulysses>  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/applications/kde4/krita_jp2.desktop', which is also in package krita-data 1:2.2.0-0ubuntu2
[20:14] <shadeslayer> ulysses: Lucid?
[20:14] <ulysses> shadeslayer: Maverick
[20:14] <shadeslayer> hmm
[20:14]  * ulysses slaps himself to use pastebin next time
[20:14] <shadeslayer> ulysses: lemme see
[20:16] <ulysses> it's hungarian http://paste.ubuntu.com/457498/
[20:16] <shadeslayer> ulysses: im installing koffice now
[20:17] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1144769 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/Messages.sh - Fix the .pot name for qapt-batch. (Name in KAboutData is qaptbatch) - The test app doesn't need to be translated, disable
[20:31] <shadeslayer> ulysses: seems to be working here
[20:38] <ulysses> I've installed it yet before, maybe that's the problem
[20:43] <ScottK> NCommander: Here's a new (to me) armel specific failure: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/51186649/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-armel.kdewebdev_4:4.4.90-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[20:43] <ScottK> NCommander: I think kdenetwork suffers similar, but it didn't finish the retry yet.
[21:15] <ulysses> shadeslayer: there aren't any problems after remove and install koffice
[22:26] <lex79> JontheEchidna: what do you think about this? bug 599490
[22:26] <JontheEchidna> lex79: looks like the package got corrupted during download or something
[22:27] <lex79> I found another user with the same problem: http://osdir.com/ml/kubuntu-users/2010-06/msg00328.html
[22:27] <lex79> yes seems so
[22:27] <lex79> but seems he is unable to fix
[22:37] <ScottK> lex79: Make sure they still have the PPA enabled.   I could only reproduce it by disabling the PPA.
[22:39] <ScottK> NCommander: kdenetwork too: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/51201023/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-armel.kdenetwork_4:4.4.90-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[22:51] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1144819 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp Disconnect the "preview changes" signal when the button changes to "go back", and vice versa. Fixes a bug where going to and from the preview widget would progressively take more and more time.
[23:10] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: Austria is broken: http://failblog.org/2010/06/29/epic-fail-photos-street-fail/
[23:48] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1144826 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (MainWindow.cpp MainWindow.h) A more event-based method of deciding when the app should quit.
[23:52] <lex79> they released kdepim-runtime inside kdepim lol
[23:53] <JontheEchidna> O.o
[23:53] <JontheEchidna> and they also expect us to somehow use 4.4 translations if we still ship 4.4 kdepim :/
[23:55] <lex79> this is an example of a perfect quality assurance