[00:00] demonstrated by BluesKaj and me :) [00:00] nUboon2Age: you're welcome [00:03] nUboon2Age, np , good luck :) [00:03] dmatt: BluesKaj: you two did great. ty so much!!! [00:04] nUboon2Age, perhaps in the near future , you might consider dual booting windows and kubuntu [00:18] BluesKaj: perhaps... i've been checking it out for me gf, who had used kde before and whom i'm trying to help migrate from Windoze... [00:19] BluesKaj: i've got an all-ubuntu system now and used Wubi to check out kubuntu... [00:22] nUboon2Age, ok , understood === warren is now known as Guest66563 [01:13] holy crap! Kubuntu 10.04 is freaking fast! and Plasma actually works now. [01:21] How can I get the Korganizer tray icon? it simply refuses to wrok no matter what I do(though the daemon is running) [01:28] afief: sorry, I don't run it myself [01:28] Typos_King, It's a wonderful piece of software, been using it to organize most of my life [01:33] heh [01:34] sooooo [01:34] well, there are others as well, like basKet [01:53] Is grub 2...the boot load manager for kubuntu [01:53] moes: yes [01:53] moes, for which version of kubuntu? [01:54] bazhang, 10.04 lts [01:54] moes, yep [01:54] !grub2 [01:54] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [01:55] bazhang, I now have lucid with grub 2 when I install kubuntu along side to I also use the grub [01:56] moes, alongside? why not just install kubuntu-desktop on existing install? then choose from login window [01:56] bazhang: i was just about to ask that :) [01:56] xubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop etc [01:57] ubuntustudio and edubuntu as well iirc [02:32] clear === ajmal is now known as jjunk [02:33] how do i clear window of quassel [02:50] test [02:51] all of my files are showing up in quadruplicate when i search for them in dolphin. is this normal? [02:53] i dont think so cato [02:53] i have problem here [02:53] when i select 3 of them (such as a pdf) i get error messages, but one of the four will load. [02:53] there isnt update manager nor nothing like synaptic in kubuntu?> [02:54] please report a bug dude [02:56] i think the kubuntu package manager is kpackagekit. (at least that is what the name reads when selecting it from the launch menu) [02:57] ya [02:57] but its no where close to update manager of ubuntu [02:58] i think room is dead now [02:59] it might be worldwide lunchtime. :) [02:59] not really its morning in india dude [03:00] <[CM]> jjunk in the trunk [03:00] <[CM]> sorry had to [03:00] <[CM]> L:P [03:00] now how do i configure kmail for accessing gmail account [03:01] <[CM]> I tried setting up kmail [03:01] <[CM]> and it kept putting sent emails in the LOCAL FOLDER [03:01] <[CM]> even though I told it save on my imap server [03:01] <[CM]> server* [03:55] what is the file limit of dolphin?? [03:56] how many files can it handle in a folder? [04:51] I am having an issue opening a website on browsers in kubuntu [04:51] that doesn't happen with other os's [04:51] i am wondering if anybody has any guidance with settings === yutaka_ is now known as Guest33541 === SockPupCameOn is now known as CuMmYeYeZ [05:23] hello guys! [05:24] i use ubuntu since dapper. Now i decided to give kde a try... i really enjoy kubuntu 10.04, but i think something is wrong here! the performance is too slow! as if im using software rendering... i dont know, please help! === promulo_ is now known as promulo [06:26] hi [06:26] i need a vnc client [06:41] Khaotic: there are many VNC clients (and servers) for Linux. KRDC is one I use frequently. It can do both VNC and RDP, and is build on KDE. Wow, that was a lot of acronyms. [06:46] e_t_: can i vnc to it from my andriod app? [06:47] Oh, you want a VNC *server* on your computer so that you can connect from your phone. [06:49] Hi there... Silly question - I'm new to KDE (on Kubuntu 10.04). How do I set the default application for files? Every time I double-click a PDF (or open it from an e-mail), GIMP starts up and I really want Okular to handle it. [06:49] KDM/X won't start. nvidia graphics card. fixable? [06:50] UrielCorinthian: right click -> open with -> other [06:50] UrielCorinthian: pick okular in there and check the "remember" checkbox [06:54] maco - I've done that though... [06:54] It still seems to reset it... [06:54] Plus - check the image attachment here - why is there a million copies of Okular in the list of choices here...? http://imagebin.org/103402 [06:56] UrielCorinthian: You can also right click -> properties, then click on the wrench icon to the right. The lower half of the window that appears allows you to select which applications to use for a file type, and in what order. [06:58] e_t_ - thanks... Just found that one... Looks more promising, since I can see that it stays on Okular now :) Do you have any idea why there would be so much repetition in the Open With dialog though? [06:58] There are other apps that also have multiple instances listed there... [06:59] anyone know how to install wine? [06:59] e_t_: yes [06:59] UrielCorinthian: That I do not know. [06:59] Okay :) Thanks for the help though [07:00] UrielCorinthian: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gimp/+bug/599785 [07:01] UrielCorinthian: bah wrong bug [07:01] :) [07:01] i need help [07:01] I'll wait [07:01] Khaotic: The counterpart of KRDC is KRFB, the KDE Remote Frame Buffer. It is a VNC server, and you can either send invitations or allow open connections. If you've got a VNC client on your phone, you should be able to connect. That's the nice thing about standards. [07:01] UrielCorinthian: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gimp/+bug/574342 [07:01] UrielCorinthian: kdesu kate /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache [07:01] UrielCorinthian: move okular to first [07:01] so get KRFB? [07:03] Khaotic: Or, you can pick something from "aptitude search vnc". As I said, there are many clients and many servers. [07:03] i want something that i can view windows stuff too [07:03] i really want realvnc [07:04] but idk how to set it up [07:04] maco2 - thank you. THink that should do it... [07:04] I'll check it out [07:04] Khaotic: VNC is VNC. If you have a Windows box with a VNC server on it, you'll be able to connect to it. [07:05] well i have 2 windows computers and this linux laptop [07:06] i wish teamviewer worked on linux [07:06] Khaotic: so you want to view the Windows boxes from the Linux laptop? [07:06] yes [07:09] Khaotic: OK. Install KRDC, then open it. You can press alt+F2 and type krdc, or you can search for it in the K menu > Programs > Internet > KRDC. [07:12] e_t_: i need a client like teamviwer [07:12] viewer* [07:12] Thanks for the help guys, I'm out [07:12] Later! [07:18] Khaotic: I do not know of a Linux app that does as many things as teamviewer seems to do, but a combination of (any) VNC client + FileZilla FTP + Kopete/Pidgin IM seems like it would offer similar features. [07:19] wats a vnc client like it [07:20] guys i tried to manually reinstall kdenlive and MLT from source, because i had these white dots and lines and now kdenlive don't see many modules! help me, please to make this thing work [07:20] Khaotic: how does this look? http://www.ubuntusquad.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/screenshot-rdp-krdc.png [07:21] yuh [07:22] like i wanna vnc to and from linux [07:22] to and from windows === ajmal is now known as jjunk [07:25] Khaotic: Then you need a client and a server on each end. I think your choice of specific software is a matter of preference. Try several and see what you like. You can always remove the others. [07:25] how? [07:25] i never found how to remove software lol [07:27] Khaotic: apt-get or aptitude can both install and remove software. "sudo apt-get install $package" installs, and "sudo apt-get remove $package" uninstalls. [07:30] oh [07:30] can you help me install realvnc? [07:30] krdc isnt seeming to let me connect [07:31] Khaotic: Have you configured your server to allow connections? [07:31] can i install hdd temperature monitor on kubuntu [07:31] ? [07:31] any software....? [07:35] Khaotic: realvnc is a proprietary/commercial app. I'll refer you to their website: http://www.realvnc.com/products/enterprise/4.5/install_debian.html [07:35] im on ubuntu [07:36] Khaotic: Ubuntu is a Debian derivative. You'll follow the same steps. [07:36] oh awesome [07:38] Khaotic: Just put "sudo" on the front of the commands to run them as root. [07:43] ok [08:15] hey all [08:15] good morning [08:15] hey emre [08:16] i was using ubuntu and switched to kubuntu-desktop. but i'm having sound problems right now. [08:16] emre: maybe pulseaudio will be the solution.. [08:16] noaXess, which packages i should install? [08:17] trying it, thanks [08:18] emre: just a german page.. http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Pulseaudio#Nachtraegliche-Installation [08:19] emre: i installed this packages... in kubuntu.. sudo apt-get install pulseaudio pulseaudio-utils gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio pavucontrol [08:20] emre: but i haven't switech from ubuntu to kubuntu-desktop.. but maybe it can help you [08:21] does anybody work with racoon? i start racoon with sudo racoon and with specific settings.. after few minutes the racoon connection goes down, cause sudo timeout.. then i need to insert the racoon command again.. [08:24] can i set a temprary timeout for a specific sudo command? === Programmer is now known as Guest46173 === hrw|gone is now known as morning === morning is now known as hrw [09:07] * Hiryu is gone. Gone since Tue Jun 29 11:24:00 2010 [09:10] !away > Hiryu [09:10] Hiryu, please see my private message [09:31] is kde 4.4.5 an unofficial release? [09:32] (there's no news about in on kde nor kubuntu site, but it's already in the kubuntu ppa) [09:33] no, its the rc1 [09:33] http://www.kubuntu.org/node/157 [09:36] jussi: I don't use the beta repo (as the link says), only ppa and backports... is an RC supposed to be there? [09:36] amichair: Im not sure. I dont use the "ppa" - is it the experimental ppa? if so, could be anything there... [09:37] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuPPAs [09:38] jussi: as I understand it, it's supposed to be updates akin to ubuntu updates repo [09:43] join #gentoo [09:43] oops [09:56] jussi: Riddell clarified that it's not 4.5RC, but indeed a 4.4.5 - which just hasn't been anounced yet by anyone (upstream or kubuntu). Sounds safe, in any case. Thanks! [09:56] :) [10:15] erm [10:15] im on an INM Thinkpad and have no sound [10:15] what do i do [10:15] i think my sound driver was lost when i installed linux [10:21] How install file .tar.zg ? please step by step [10:21] Iraq, on bt4? [10:21] Allah Akbar [10:21] what you doing here again [10:21] Iraq, #backtrack-linux for bt4 support not here [10:22] i didn't asked your help so please if you can do not insert your noise in some thing not your business and thank [10:23] Iraq, as has been explained to you many times, backtrack is not supported in ubuntu channels. #backtrack-linux is the support channel for bt4 NOT here [10:24] man can you keep your noise , do not talk with me i will not reply you [10:26] interesting [10:26] what is back track? [10:26] it's an ubuntu dirivitive [10:27] not to worry though, kubuntu is the distro of choice here [10:27] i think my sound driver was lost when i installed linux === amichairo is now known as amichair === ikonia_ is now known as ubuntu-ops [11:57] hio [11:57] hi === naught101__ is now known as naught101 === ivan_ is now known as ToxinPowe_ [12:37] hi [12:46] hello [12:46] I am looking after some source about Dreamworks using Kubuntu [12:47] I don't know if it is true, though so if someone here knows anything about it... === ofirk is now known as ofirk_ === ofirk_ is now known as ofirk [12:51] ofirk: contact dreamworks, it's not really something the community can help with unless they work for drreamworks [12:52] ikonia: thanks [12:52] sorry it's not the best response [12:52] but anything else would just be speeculation, if it does help I do know they have linux machines for rendering, but its not really #kubuntu sort of discussion, join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to chat about it === djordjelacmanovi is now known as cleric^^ [13:51] any1 on this channel? O_o === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [14:24] can anybody tell me what is -fPIC and how to recompile with it? [15:03] 1 [15:08] Greetings. I can't make my headset's mic to work at all in Kubuntu 10.04. Can someone please help? Some detail can be found here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1514371 [15:11] I have a web meeting in 6h and i'd hate to forcely look for a cyber cafe to do this... =/ [15:19] galvao: mic it is microphone ? [15:19] Soldier3: Yes, sorryt about that: Microphone === Y0Y0 is now known as yoyo [15:22] I have same problem. Skype do not work. but... [15:22] but...? [15:23] I install pulseaudio [15:24] sudo aptitude install pulseaudio [15:24] and sudo apt-get install pavucontrol [15:24] I've already installed pavucontrol [15:24] it's there, on the post [15:25] !info padevchooser [15:25] padevchooser (source: padevchooser): PulseAudio Device Chooser. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.3-2ubuntu4 (lucid), package size 19 kB, installed size 132 kB [15:26] galvao: look pavucontrol/inpute Devices [15:27] Soldier3: where can I find that? [15:27] pulse audio? LoL [15:27] if you install pulse audio you might regret it later [15:28] Soldier3: My pavucontrol doesn't work. Once again, it's all there in my post in ubuntuforums [15:30] On an unrelated note: Can I just add the ppa and upgrade KDE? Nothing to worry about here? (Yes, I have a backup, but it's always better not to use it, if you know what I mean) [15:30] galvao: Good [15:30] Soldier3: Good? [15:30] make sudo apt-get install pulseaudio [15:31] I don't wanna sound bitchy, but shouldn't pavucontrol installed that as a dependency in case it wasn't already installed? [15:31] I mean pavucontrol must depende on pulse audio... or at least that seems to be logic [15:33] galvao: I know English bad. [15:33] Soldier3: Where are you from? [15:34] galvao: jast do what I seid [15:34] [upgrading to KDE 4.4.4] [15:35] galvao: Ukraine [15:36] galvao: first install pulseaudio [15:37] Soldier3: Sorry, I'll pass on that [15:37] this shouln't be necessary at all [15:37] galvao: did you do it [15:37] something is just wrong with the whole case [15:37] no, and wont do it [15:37] unless someone proves me that's an excellent reason to do so [15:38] In console [15:38] I'm not an advanced [k]Ubuntu/Linux user as you can see, but I'm not too new either and I need good arguments. This whole pulseaudio thing just doesn't seem logic [15:38] sudo apt-get install pulseaudio [15:39] Soldier3: Sorry to take yoour time and thanks for the help so far === Riddell_ is now known as Riddelll [15:40] aloha, i am using kubuntu 10.04, i got a question about activities, there are 2 kinds avail at moment: "Desktop" and "Folder View", but on kde.org i see more kinds, like a quickstarter activity etc. how to install them on kubuntu ? [15:40] galvao: :-) [15:46] If anyone can jump in here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1514371 and give some help I'd really appreciate it. [15:46] galvao: You on mic at Kmix ??? [15:53] bye [16:05] exit [16:09] ................ [16:23] hi guys [16:23] is this the right place the discuss kubuntu development? [16:23] or is it another channel? [16:24] falktx: #kubuntu-devel [16:24] ok, thanks [16:27] how to install mplayer-plugin? i'm unable to find it in the repositories. [16:54] hi, I've booted a laptop with kubuntu 10.04 live just for test. Seems that everything is ok except the keyboard F1..F12 keys. To use them I have to press the "Fn" key first, while their usual behaviour is the second function (like mute, brightness, etc.) [16:54] any glue? [16:54] clue? emh, tip? [16:59] check the right keyboard is selected markit === warren is now known as Guest49654 [17:32] hi [17:32] anyone around? [17:34] between the miriads of joins and parts there are probably quite a few people around [17:34] lol [17:34] questions get answered often [17:34] anyone around that can help me out? [17:34] but not if you don't ask [17:35] im looking to dual boot windows 7 with Kubuntu [17:35] and wondering the best way to go about it === mohammed is now known as Guest86684 [17:35] also......does wubi actuall install the OS? or does it run it from the iso? [17:36] * urgen checks what wubi is [17:37] It installs it to a file inside your windows partition. [17:37] does it run any slower than a proper install would? [17:37] what i mean is....is it the same as running from the live CD? [17:38] becasue thats hella slow [17:38] No, it is much more like a 'real' install. [17:38] hmmm [17:39] could i partition my hard drive with the windows 7 disc....then install 7 on one of the partitions and then boot from the kubuntu cd and install it on the other partition? === mohammed_ is now known as Guest92207 [17:40] hi how can i install kubuntu along windows 7? [17:41] HELP!!!! PLEASE!!! [17:41] hehe [17:41] two in one [17:41] LoL [17:41] so can u help [17:41] along can mean a few things [17:41] dual boot [17:42] usually you make multiple partitions and use a boot manager [17:42] but this wubi thing looks cute [17:42] can u explain? [17:42] Guest92207: install windows7 first. then just do the next-next-next stuff for kubuntu. it splits/shrinks/dual-boots with windows by default.. [17:42] a virtual virtual system [17:42] screw wubi [17:43] i already have windows 7 installed [17:43] Guest92207, when you start the installation via the cd, you have the chance to resize your partitions [17:43] how [17:43] Guest92207: just next next next the kubuntu installer disc then [17:43] partitions can be resized if there is space [17:43] wait [17:43] dont worry about partitions. just boot the disc. and follow the installer. [17:43] hehe [17:44] i put the cd in my computer now what [17:44] ouch [17:44] isn't there a wiki? [17:44] should i click run wubi.exe [17:44] no [17:44] then? [17:45] Guest92207, how big is your harddrive [17:45] 500 GB [17:45] oh, you'll get a small kubuntu partition, either like 30/15 gb [17:46] how [17:46] what do you mean how [17:46] i don't know what i should do to install kubuntu in windows 7 [17:46] * urgen looking for the wiki steps [17:46] I don't feel like holding hands today [17:46] Guest92207, do you want to try it out or install it completely with more disk space? [17:46] sorry but could u plz help thanks [17:46] http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Lucid#Dual-Booting_Windows_and_Ubuntu [17:46] intall it completley [17:47] well, you need to restart your computer, and boot from your cd [17:47] will that replace my windows &? [17:47] read the wiki first [17:47] windows 7? [17:47] Guest92207: after you put the disc in, reboot the computer. kubuntu should boot. [17:48] Guest92207: if not, you may have to enter your computers bios and tell it to boot from cd drive. [17:48] Guest92207: after kubuntu boots, there is an 'installer' icon. [17:48] so it won't replace windows 7 right? [17:48] Guest92207: nope [17:48] Guest99207, no you have the chance to install side by side [17:48] thanks [17:48] ill try it now [17:48] installing side-by-side is the default. [17:48] plz wait thanks a lot [17:49] overwriting everything is a nondefault option. so you must tell it explicitly to do so. [17:49] Guest92207: np :) [17:49] Guest92207: welcome to kubuntu [17:49] thks [17:50] ubuntu is the best! [17:50] chakra is the best sir. ;) meanwhile, until you gain wizardly skills. *ubuntu is best. [17:51] i heard gentoo and arch was for advanced [17:51] i see a blue screen asking for language [17:51] hmmm [17:51] all linux is for advanced [17:51] go to your language [17:51] but things are still changing [17:51] i selected enlish and now i see a another screen i should slect install right? [17:52] it is always a good idea to be capable of not letting technology push you around [17:52] Guest92207: no. [17:52] Guest92207: does it say Try Kubuntu out without installing and install kubuntu? [17:52] yes [17:52] Guest92207: try it first. just to see if it works with your computer. [17:52] ok [17:53] i just see a black screen with nothing on it now [17:53] ridin: they are. but they take days to configure. chakra is preconfigured. like ubuntu. except based on simplicity rather than inclusive complexity. [17:53] Guest92207: wait ;) [17:53] ok [17:54] yes, wait because kubuntu is a bit "chunky" [17:55] someone has a few moments help me fixing a dpkg error? [17:55] heh. itz the 4.4.3 stuff. and the cron jobs. and the debian 'way' that are chunky. kubuntu is just a few metapackages.. [17:55] guest135: maybe.. what is it? [17:55] alright [17:55] its an uncofigured package [17:56] the install guide says: The Ubuntu installer will overwrite your Master Boot Record and you will later be forced to recreate it. [17:56] is that true [17:56] "sudo dpkg --configure -a" [17:56] error is quite long, where should i post it? [17:56] Guest92207: no. at the end of the install, it installs grub to the master boot record. automatic like. [17:56] guest135: pastebin.ca [17:56] k tnx [17:58] thanks djustice, i appreciate the help, peace [17:58] pastebin is not responding, ill just paste the last few lines here [17:58] dpkg: error processing qt4-qmake (--configure): [17:58] subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2 [17:59] guest135: hm. thats no help. try pastebin.com, i need the command you ran too. and the goal in question. [17:59] kde-devel? aspiring qt-devel? [18:00] well its basically every command i run involving dpkg [18:00] like apt-get ... [18:01] guest135: ah.. so.. pastebin.com the output of 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'? [18:01] gonna paste at pastebin [18:02] paste.ubuntu.com may help too [18:03] ya. ive always been a pastebin.ca fan.. the custom account/syntax stuff is kewl. ;P and kde's pastebin widget can drag'n'drop there. and to imagebin, filebin, etc. [18:04] ok its this one [18:04] http://pastebin.com/9cwy1Hq3 [18:05] kk. one sec. [18:07] guest135: kk. do this. 'cd /var/cache/apt/packages; sudo dpkg --force-all -i ./qt4-qmake*' [18:07] somebody made a bad qt4-qmake pkg.. ;D.. or you can just keep apt-get updateing until they fix it.. [18:08] there is no packages below apt [18:11] guest135: hrm.. idr the name.. i havent used kubuntu in ages.. its somewhere under cache/apt tho.. [18:11] archives. thats it. [18:13] me and dpkg dont jive... or the update-alternatives stuff... or the built-in cronjob stuff.. or the broken/busted pkgz.. or the hacks.. [18:13] the whole stack is wrong. its for servers not desktops. dpkg stacks must be -seriously- solidified before distrobution... [18:13] mumblemumble.. [18:14] well i tried the command above [18:14] guest135: same error? [18:14] the error is... gimme a sec [18:15] you may have to edit the status file by hand... [18:15] you mean /var/lib/dpkg/status? [18:16] i do.. [18:16] http://www.khattam.info/2009/08/04/solved-subprocess-pre-removal-script-returned-error-exit-status-2-error/ <- a guide on how to fix it. [18:16] what did --force-all say tho? [18:17] says: cannot acces archive: no such file or directory [18:17] when tried with ./qt4-qmake* (--install) [18:20] the status for qt4-qmake looks as the one in the link above, i'm gonna try that out [18:22] guest135: hm.. id use --force-all first.. but you must find the actual qt4-qmake deb file.. which i dont guess is in your apt/archives cache... [18:22] guest135: the status way is more of a hack than a solution.. === kayla is now known as Geo === Geo is now known as kayla [18:23] and what about that postinst script mentioned in the first error? [18:24] i see there is one in /var/lib/info called qt4-qmake.postinst [18:24] but its empty [18:25] may that be involved? [18:25] <[1]choppa> hi, i have a friend of mine on KDE 4.4.4 et he has a problem connecting on wifi; sometimes it works; sometimes it stays on 'activation' and asks the password again; it's the same with knetworkmanager, nm-applet, and wicd, so for now i'm staying on knetworkmanager, could someone help please? [18:28] kwallet? [18:29] <[1]choppa> ? [18:29] guest135: probably not.. i think you may have just got a corrupted qmake pkg from your mirror.. [18:29] guest135: you can probably download the new pkg from somewhere (online), and --force-all -i on it to fix everything. [18:30] instead of mucking about in your status file.. [18:30] ok im gonna try that out [18:30] thanks alot djustice [18:32] Hmm, there's a new kernel upgrade today. [18:37] there's a way to know wich daemons are running on my pc? [18:38] Renovatio: "ps auxww | less" will show you all processes running on your machine. [18:40] DarthFrog, thank you. do you know if there is a daemon for audio? [18:43] Phonon or pulseaudio. [18:44] In my experience, pulseaudio causes more problems than its worth. [18:45] Audio in Linux is a mess, a real dog's breakfast. [18:49] ok, cause i have a problem, audio don't works :) [18:57] Use System Settings/Multimedia to try different audio devices. [18:58] Also use Kmix to play with the various volume settings. Check that your output channels aren't muted. === kayla is now known as Geomodal === pamaury_ is now known as pamaury === jtheuer is now known as jt|away === jt|away is now known as jtheuer [19:16] hi [19:17] i encounter strange problems with kubuntu 10.04 [19:17] in the kpackagekit, i deactivate "auto install system update" [19:17] but the system still persists to install some system component itself [19:18] like openoffice update, and just right now kernel update [19:18] is it normal ? [19:18]