| === BUGabundo_DrWho is now known as BUGabundo | ||
| h00k | Are there known...like...severe performance issues with btrfs on a SSD? | 00:26 |
|---|---|---|
| h00k | I installed the daily alternate with SSD on my netbook and it took over 12 hours. Also, upgrades are taking a ridiculously long time today | 00:28 |
| patdk-lap | what ssd? | 00:28 |
| h00k | before, when I ran ext4, it was /way/ faster. | 00:28 |
| patdk-lap | random write is critical for btrfs | 00:28 |
| patdk-lap | and most ssd's are not optimized for that | 00:28 |
| patdk-lap | unless your buying enterprise grade | 00:29 |
| Daekdroom | I believe btrfs has a specific mount option for SSDs, doesn't it? | 00:29 |
| patdk-lap | it does | 00:29 |
| h00k | It's an ASUS-phison SSD | 00:29 |
| h00k | I bet I'm not using that, I didn't specifically set it when installing | 00:29 |
| patdk-lap | check fstab | 00:29 |
| h00k | UUID=UUID-IS-HERE-I-DONT-FEEL-LIKE-TYPING-IT /home btrfs defaults 0 2 | 00:30 |
| h00k | same for /, except it's 0 1 for the last two. | 00:31 |
| h00k | /boot is ext2 defaults 0 2, but that isn't important | 00:31 |
| h00k | oh look, a convenient wiki: https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/FAQ#Is_Btrfs_optimized_for_SSD.3F | 00:32 |
| h00k | -o ssd. where would that go in the fstab line? | 00:33 |
| h00k | UUID / btrfs -o ssd 0 1 //am I doin' it right? | 00:33 |
| h00k | ah, sans the -o, I bet. | 00:34 |
| h00k | patdk-lap: ^ | 00:36 |
| patdk-lap | defaults,ssd | 00:36 |
| h00k | ah | 00:37 |
| h00k | we'll give this a shot | 00:37 |
| patdk-lap | how does your btrfs mount? from grub? | 00:38 |
| patdk-lap | is there a ro option on the kernel line in /boot/grub/grub.cfg? | 00:38 |
| h00k | no, I don't think grub will. I made a 200mb /boot, ext2 | 00:38 |
| patdk-lap | well, I am using ext4 /boot | 00:39 |
| h00k | separate /boot, /, and /home, / and /home are btrfs | 00:39 |
| patdk-lap | and btrfs root | 00:39 |
| patdk-lap | but the default is to mount root ro at first | 00:39 |
| patdk-lap | and that freaks my system out | 00:39 |
| h00k | I'd test it, but I'm waiting for my upgrades | 00:40 |
| === Yahweh is now known as poutine | ||
| robertzaccour | howdy | 06:47 |
| robertzaccour | anyone think that so far maverick is better than lucid in any way? | 06:48 |
| robertzaccour | i haven't tried it yet | 06:48 |
| robertzaccour | .... | 06:52 |
| robertzaccour | cricket, cricket cricket, cricket | 06:53 |
| ddecator | robertzaccour: slow time of day :) | 06:56 |
| robertzaccour | i know, i was being sarcastic with the crickets | 06:56 |
| mandara | will eclipse 3.6 get in repository for maverick? | 08:39 |
| ikonia | good question, have you looed whats in the current repos (if anything on it) | 08:43 |
| mandara | ikonia: 3.5.2 in maverick currently | 08:45 |
| ikonia | maybe worth speaking to the package maintainer now if you want a chance at getting it in | 08:46 |
| === hrw|gone is now known as morning | ||
| === morning is now known as hrw | ||
| mandara | yup there is still a chance. Don't know how much time it takes to package it. | 08:50 |
| dupondje | the best chance is to get it into debian | 08:55 |
| dupondje | and then sync it :) | 08:55 |
| mandara | is there a command in apt to get maintainers email .Like: apt-cache show maintainers-email eclipse :) | 09:06 |
| ior3k | anyone know how to force mysql to start on boot? Since I installed postgres, I have to start mysql manually | 09:11 |
| ior3k | mandara: does "aptitude show eclipse | grep Maintainer" do what you need? | 09:12 |
| dupondje | mandara: I recommend you open a bugreport in debian, asking to package 3.6.0 | 09:14 |
| dupondje | once its in debian, we should be able to sync without problems | 09:14 |
| BUGabundo_remote | morning! unleash the screw driver in you!! | 09:14 |
| mandara | ior3k: fkors. Thanx for tip! | 09:15 |
| === mrsun is now known as MrSunshine | ||
| MrSunshine | hmm | 09:35 |
| MrSunshine | got problems after latest firefox update :/ | 09:35 |
| MrSunshine | i get the window but then it flat out hangs :( | 09:35 |
| MrSunshine | hmm | 09:35 |
| MrSunshine | works after i move the .mozilla folder | 09:35 |
| BUGabundo_remote | MrSunshine: and in safemode? | 09:39 |
| HappyNwb | Q: Is it possible to encrypt all traffic going in and out with an irc application, like xchat for instance on Ubuntu? This was meant to be a quick generalized question. | 09:59 |
| dupondje | A: SSL | 10:00 |
| HappyNwb | So the answer is yes+ | 10:00 |
| HappyNwb | ? | 10:00 |
| dupondje | ye | 10:00 |
| HappyNwb | Thanks, i'll investigate this further. | 10:01 |
| HappyNwb | I also would like some feedback on Asus soundcard support, if anyone has a soundcard from Asus running and think it runs well on their Ubuntu machine. | 10:03 |
| HappyNwb | Just tossing the question out there. | 10:03 |
| === ikonia_ is now known as ubuntu-ops | ||
| Iraq | hi | 11:32 |
| HappyNwb | Welcome to the internet | 11:33 |
| BUGabundo_remote | humm | 11:34 |
| BUGabundo_remote | "iraq" is on autoban???? | 11:35 |
| BUGabundo_remote | or is this one of those freenode banned word?!!? | 11:35 |
| gnomefreak | looks like he was muted not banned | 11:39 |
| BUGabundo_remote | ah | 11:41 |
| Enlik | welcome to america | 11:48 |
| === naught101__ is now known as naught101 | ||
| BUGabundo_remote | is it just me, or is OOo 3.2 much faster starting? | 13:13 |
| ubuntujenkins | in evolution in mavrick can you change the tool bar to small? like it use to be | 13:38 |
| === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| om26er | ubuntujenkins, seems like a bug... | 14:04 |
| ubuntujenkins | om26er: have you seen it or would you like a screenshot? I am just looking for a bud on launchpad | 14:05 |
| om26er | ubuntujenkins, I have seen it | 14:05 |
| ubuntujenkins | om26er: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/589644 is the bug on it nothing has been done by the looks of it | 14:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 589644 in evolution (Ubuntu) "The buttons selection are huge" [Low,New] | 14:08 |
| om26er | ubuntujenkins, does it happen with other themes? | 14:13 |
| ubuntujenkins | does with elementry which is what i am using | 14:13 |
| om26er | ubuntujenkins, in Lucid I am using evolution 2.30.2 I dont see it but in Maverick I see it | 14:13 |
| om26er | bug in gnome-icon-theme according to #evolution | 14:14 |
| ubuntujenkins | om26er: that is strange, a slighlty later version in lucid? I know they are the same number, may be a bug fix was sliped in | 14:15 |
| ubuntujenkins | o sweet thanks | 14:15 |
| ubuntujenkins | om26er: i just updated the gnome-icon-theme and the spam icon has been removed which fixes it | 14:22 |
| ubuntujenkins | you do have a blank button atm | 14:22 |
| om26er | ubuntujenkins, which version did you update to? | 14:23 |
| ubuntujenkins | 2.30.3-1ubuntu2 | 14:24 |
| gnomefreak | gnome-icon-theme is no where the same version in Lucid -> Maverick | 14:30 |
| jan-pieter | I am currently faced with complete failure of ubuntu(10.10) at completely random moments. Most of the time every form of input completely stalls. I can't move the mouse, nothing on the keyboard work and pressing the power button has no effect what so ever. I can only reset my pc. Every now and then kernel panic occurs (15% of the times) and num-lock and caps-lock start flashing. If I'm... | 15:26 |
| jan-pieter | ...really lucky I can restart the X-server but that only postpones the lock-up for about 15-30 min. Where could I find info about this in the logs? | 15:26 |
| gnomefreak | jan-pieter: you are best to file a bug on that issue | 15:49 |
| gnomefreak | jan-pieter: file the bug using the command ubuntu-bug linux and that should give the kernel devs the info they need | 15:51 |
| gnomefreak | to at least start on the bug | 15:51 |
| jan-pieter | OK. I'll do that | 15:51 |
| jan-pieter | hmm the maximum is once a day but it occurs more frequently than that maybe it would be an idea to allow that? | 15:54 |
| gnomefreak | allow? | 15:55 |
| jan-pieter | well allow add an option | 15:55 |
| jan-pieter | probably just irrelevant | 15:55 |
| kroson | hi everyone, im willing to test maverick | 16:00 |
| kroson | is there any gnome 3.0 milestone on it? | 16:00 |
| om26er | define: gnome 3 :P | 16:10 |
| kroson | om26er: lol, will it be released with 10.10? | 16:11 |
| om26er | kroson, if you mean gnome shell i.e. the new interface, then, no. but also maverick is not expected to update all apps to 3.0 too. | 16:13 |
| kroson | om26er: ok tks | 16:20 |
| kroson | om26er: do you recommend the using of xorg-edgers ppa? for upgrading nouveau | 16:21 |
| om26er | kroson, that ppa broke my system for several times over the last month. | 16:22 |
| kroson | om26er: so, no lol | 16:22 |
| kroson | tks | 16:22 |
| kickingintender | what are the hot new features in alpha 2 | 16:49 |
| kickingintender | due 2 release 2morrw | 16:49 |
| mrsun_ | has alot of stuff changed from lucid to maverick ? :) | 16:50 |
| kickingintender | nothing much | 16:51 |
| kickingintender | only minor stuff | 16:51 |
| kickingintender | i like gimp going single window mode in next version | 16:51 |
| mrsun_ | ahh single window gimp, then it might not be as "gimped" anymore ) | 16:52 |
| mrsun_ | =) | 16:52 |
| om26er | kickingintender, what do you expect to change panels move to right and left ;) | 16:52 |
| om26er | kickingintender, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/ubuntu-1010-so-far-in-339-words.html | 16:56 |
| * mrsun_ finds ubuntu wonderfull, stil some hand editing to be done here and there but most stuff just works .. just like i like it without windows :) | 16:57 | |
| kickingintender | thats easy 2 change the panels back 2 right | 17:04 |
| kickingintender | i have already did that | 17:04 |
| === marcos_ is now known as Daekdroom | ||
| kroson | can you guys give me a daily version that is working? today's one cant boot after installation :S | 17:56 |
| kroson | it states an error right after grub | 17:57 |
| kroson | but i can boot normally in live mode! | 17:58 |
| Dat001 | hi all. | 18:35 |
| Dat001 | why on a new installation of meerkat do i still need to download 300MB | 18:36 |
| jcastro | it means your iso is out of date probably | 18:36 |
| Dat001 | thank you but downloaded it today | 18:37 |
| jcastro | there are usually tons of updates every day | 18:37 |
| Dat001 | ok | 18:38 |
| Dat001 | v0lv0_v5o | 18:43 |
| Daijoubu | guys is there a website or something with Maverik news? o-o | 19:52 |
| coz_ | Daijoubu, how about http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/maverick/alpha1 | 19:55 |
| Daijoubu | thanks | 19:56 |
| coz_ | Daijoubu, actually that link is in the channel topic as well :) | 19:57 |
| Daijoubu | coz_ not much news in there though :) | 19:57 |
| coz_ | Daijoubu, i think there is a link near the bottom for "Do you want to know more:" | 19:58 |
| coz_ | Daijoubu, but its still alpha :) | 19:58 |
| coz_ | I believe | 19:58 |
| Dat001 | so is the mane meerkat or maverick | 20:08 |
| Dat001 | **name | 20:09 |
| Pici | !10.10 | 20:13 |
| ubottu | Maverick Meerkat is the codename for Ubuntu 10.10, due October 2010 - Maverick is Not released and Not Stable, discussion and support in #ubuntu+1 | 20:13 |
| z0rt|work | i am running maverick on my netbook and recently my applications button on the sidebar is no longer there. any thoughts? i am unable to access anything. | 20:58 |
| z0rt|work | i can still pull up tty terminals etc | 20:58 |
| holstein | z0rt|work: this is the netbook remix? | 20:59 |
| z0rt|work | holstein: yes | 21:00 |
| holstein | hmmmm | 21:00 |
| holstein | can you login to gnome? | 21:00 |
| z0rt|work | yes | 21:00 |
| holstein | i would assume an update will fix that at some point | 21:01 |
| z0rt|work | i am updating now, hopefully it will | 21:01 |
| holstein | yeah, i wouuld try that first then | 21:01 |
| sebsebseb | Hi | 21:26 |
| dreamy_ | if im not afrayd of loosing any data, is it ok to try ubuntu 10.10 alfa? | 21:46 |
| Daekdroom | dreamy_, if you're not afraid of having to reinstall, yes. | 21:46 |
| dreamy_ | k , nice | 21:46 |
| Daekdroom | Liking to fix broken stuff is a plus if you want alpha software :D | 21:46 |
| dreamy_ | Daekdroom: may it bring perfomance improvments ? | 21:46 |
| Daekdroom | dreamy_, yes, as well as performance regressions. | 21:47 |
| vish | hmm , is this error a known one for unity : | 21:47 |
| vish | Window manager warning: Log level 16: Could not load library [/usr/lib/mutter/plugins/libunity-mutter.so.0 (/usr/lib/mutter/plugins/libunity-mutter.so.0: undefined symbol: meta_window_is_maximized)] | 21:47 |
| dreamy_ | Daekdroom: for this version u dont know ? it gets faster or slower? | 21:47 |
| dreamy_ | ty for helping | 21:48 |
| Daekdroom | dreamy_, it usually gets faster here and slower there. | 21:48 |
| yofel | faster and slower is very vague, I think my graphics performance went down on my intel 945GME since Xserver 1.8 | 21:48 |
| dreamy_ | k | 21:48 |
| yofel | but it's fine in general | 21:48 |
| dreamy_ | 9.10 with window maker on a 256 m pc.. gets slow :S | 21:49 |
| bcurtiswx3 | hey all, i couldn't see any bug yet, but is it known that gcc and cpp are having dependency wars right now and won't install/upgrade | 21:49 |
| yofel | except for some weird bug where *something* wastes about 1GiB of RAM after boot until I reboot again immediately (I suspect ureadahead reprofiling) | 21:50 |
| kroson | hi | 21:52 |
| bcurtiswx3 | cpp4.4 won't upgrade | 21:53 |
| bcurtiswx3 | boo | 21:53 |
| kroson | im having an issue with my mouse cursor, it is constantly disappearing from the screen | 21:53 |
| kroson | is this a known bug? is there a fix for it? | 21:53 |
| bcurtiswx3 | anyone else not able to upgrade cpp-4.4 | 21:55 |
| yofel | bcurtiswx3: I'm just updating, will check in a moment | 21:56 |
| bcurtiswx3 | yofel: muchas gracias | 21:56 |
| yofel | cpp-4.4: Installed: 4.4.4-6ubuntu2 | 21:58 |
| kroson | yofel bcurtiswx3 any of you have this bug? | 21:58 |
| yofel | amd64 | 21:58 |
| yofel | not here | 21:59 |
| bcurtiswx3 | kroson: not here, sry | 21:59 |
| kroson | x86 here, synaptics touchpad | 21:59 |
| kroson | didnt test with a normal mouse though but its a weird issue, other than that at this stage of development 10.10 is perfect for me | 21:59 |
| BUGabundo | evening | 22:00 |
| bcurtiswx3 | yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/457536 | 22:02 |
| z0rt|work | my netbook's cursor goes crazy too | 22:03 |
| yofel | er, that could be a corrupt .deb file IMO, tried to delete it so apt fetches it again? | 22:03 |
| bcurtiswx3 | how do I delete that specific one? | 22:04 |
| kroson | z0rt|work: its a normal notebook here, mine disappears like 2 seconds after i leave it | 22:04 |
| yofel | bcurtiswx3: the filename is mentioned on line 32, just do 'sudo rm ...' in a terminal | 22:05 |
| bcurtiswx3 | yofel: thats it, thanks :) | 22:08 |
| yofel | np ;) | 22:08 |
| sarimurat | exit | 22:24 |
| kroson | im having an issue with my mouse cursor, it is constantly disappearing from the screen | 22:25 |
| kroson | does anybody know a fix for this bug? | 22:25 |
| kroson | tks :) | 22:25 |
| z0rt|work | holstein: after updating i am still having the same issue...no applications button on the icon panel | 22:26 |
| DarkNemesis | i am sick and tired of having to set up all the same accounts on different machines i have many yahoo, jabber and msn accounts etc, and i forget the passwords etc so end up having to change them and its really not fair cus when i have to change the passwords on the lappy the next time i boot the desktop the chat accounts wont load as i dont have the right passwords so have to change them again.... so, i have a request | 22:28 |
| DarkNemesis | please can you intergrate a way of syncing account details with ubuntu one | 22:28 |
| DarkNemesis | so that you sign into ubuntu single sign on and then sync your data with ubuntu one - this would save having to change the passwords again | 22:29 |
| DarkNemesis | what do people think? | 22:29 |
| DrHalan | would be awesome | 22:32 |
| DrHalan | DarkNemesis: alternatively you can use jabber transports | 22:32 |
| DarkNemesis | DrHalan, ma and pa cant do that easy | 22:34 |
| charlie-tca | If ma and pa are changing passwords that often, why not put the same password on all the accounts for them? | 22:35 |
| DanaG | DarkNemesis: you could just symlink .purple (or such) into the UbuntuOne dir (or Dropbox). | 22:45 |
| DanaG | Say, why the heck does Maverick's Xorg treat my touchpad's middle button as a left button? | 22:46 |
| DarkNemesis | DanaG, does mavrick have a new version of gnome? | 22:46 |
| DanaG | Beats me... I'm not booted into it, at the moment. | 22:47 |
| DanaG | The middle button thing is a deal-breaker for me, for one thing. | 22:47 |
| kroson | DarkNemesis: no :S not yet | 22:48 |
| kroson | and gnome-shell (the new interface for 3.0) wont come with final | 22:48 |
| kroson | but they hope to have gnome 3.0 | 22:48 |
| === ubuntujenkins is now known as jenkins | ||
| Ian_corne | whoa | 23:25 |
| Ian_corne | nautilus just crashed | 23:25 |
| === jenkins is now known as ubuntujenkins | ||
| === ubuntujenkins is now known as jenkins | ||
| patdk-wk | shoot it with sereoids | 23:29 |
| === jenkins is now known as ubuntujenkins | ||
| === ubuntujenkins is now known as jenkins | ||
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