=== BUGabundo_DrWho is now known as BUGabundo [00:26] Are there known...like...severe performance issues with btrfs on a SSD? [00:28] I installed the daily alternate with SSD on my netbook and it took over 12 hours. Also, upgrades are taking a ridiculously long time today [00:28] what ssd? [00:28] before, when I ran ext4, it was /way/ faster. [00:28] random write is critical for btrfs [00:28] and most ssd's are not optimized for that [00:29] unless your buying enterprise grade [00:29] I believe btrfs has a specific mount option for SSDs, doesn't it? [00:29] it does [00:29] It's an ASUS-phison SSD [00:29] I bet I'm not using that, I didn't specifically set it when installing [00:29] check fstab [00:30] UUID=UUID-IS-HERE-I-DONT-FEEL-LIKE-TYPING-IT /home btrfs defaults 0 2 [00:31] same for /, except it's 0 1 for the last two. [00:31] /boot is ext2 defaults 0 2, but that isn't important [00:32] oh look, a convenient wiki: https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/FAQ#Is_Btrfs_optimized_for_SSD.3F [00:33] -o ssd. where would that go in the fstab line? [00:33] UUID / btrfs -o ssd 0 1 //am I doin' it right? [00:34] ah, sans the -o, I bet. [00:36] patdk-lap: ^ [00:36] defaults,ssd [00:37] ah [00:37] we'll give this a shot [00:38] how does your btrfs mount? from grub? [00:38] is there a ro option on the kernel line in /boot/grub/grub.cfg? [00:38] no, I don't think grub will. I made a 200mb /boot, ext2 [00:39] well, I am using ext4 /boot [00:39] separate /boot, /, and /home, / and /home are btrfs [00:39] and btrfs root [00:39] but the default is to mount root ro at first [00:39] and that freaks my system out [00:40] I'd test it, but I'm waiting for my upgrades === Yahweh is now known as poutine [06:47] howdy [06:48] anyone think that so far maverick is better than lucid in any way? [06:48] i haven't tried it yet [06:52] .... [06:53] cricket, cricket cricket, cricket [06:56] robertzaccour: slow time of day :) [06:56] i know, i was being sarcastic with the crickets [08:39] will eclipse 3.6 get in repository for maverick? [08:43] good question, have you looed whats in the current repos (if anything on it) [08:45] ikonia: 3.5.2 in maverick currently [08:46] maybe worth speaking to the package maintainer now if you want a chance at getting it in === hrw|gone is now known as morning === morning is now known as hrw [08:50] yup there is still a chance. Don't know how much time it takes to package it. [08:55] the best chance is to get it into debian [08:55] and then sync it :) [09:06] is there a command in apt to get maintainers email .Like: apt-cache show maintainers-email eclipse :) [09:11] anyone know how to force mysql to start on boot? Since I installed postgres, I have to start mysql manually [09:12] mandara: does "aptitude show eclipse | grep Maintainer" do what you need? [09:14] mandara: I recommend you open a bugreport in debian, asking to package 3.6.0 [09:14] once its in debian, we should be able to sync without problems [09:14] morning! unleash the screw driver in you!! [09:15] ior3k: fkors. Thanx for tip! === mrsun is now known as MrSunshine [09:35] hmm [09:35] got problems after latest firefox update :/ [09:35] i get the window but then it flat out hangs :( [09:35] hmm [09:35] works after i move the .mozilla folder [09:39] MrSunshine: and in safemode? [09:59] Q: Is it possible to encrypt all traffic going in and out with an irc application, like xchat for instance on Ubuntu? This was meant to be a quick generalized question. [10:00] A: SSL [10:00] So the answer is yes+ [10:00] ? [10:00] ye [10:01] Thanks, i'll investigate this further. [10:03] I also would like some feedback on Asus soundcard support, if anyone has a soundcard from Asus running and think it runs well on their Ubuntu machine. [10:03] Just tossing the question out there. === ikonia_ is now known as ubuntu-ops [11:32] hi [11:33] Welcome to the internet [11:34] humm [11:35] "iraq" is on autoban???? [11:35] or is this one of those freenode banned word?!!? [11:39] looks like he was muted not banned [11:41] ah [11:48] welcome to america === naught101__ is now known as naught101 [13:13] is it just me, or is OOo 3.2 much faster starting? [13:38] in evolution in mavrick can you change the tool bar to small? like it use to be === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [14:04] ubuntujenkins, seems like a bug... [14:05] om26er: have you seen it or would you like a screenshot? I am just looking for a bud on launchpad [14:05] ubuntujenkins, I have seen it [14:08] om26er: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/589644 is the bug on it nothing has been done by the looks of it [14:08] Launchpad bug 589644 in evolution (Ubuntu) "The buttons selection are huge" [Low,New] [14:13] ubuntujenkins, does it happen with other themes? [14:13] does with elementry which is what i am using [14:13] ubuntujenkins, in Lucid I am using evolution 2.30.2 I dont see it but in Maverick I see it [14:14] bug in gnome-icon-theme according to #evolution [14:15] om26er: that is strange, a slighlty later version in lucid? I know they are the same number, may be a bug fix was sliped in [14:15] o sweet thanks [14:22] om26er: i just updated the gnome-icon-theme and the spam icon has been removed which fixes it [14:22] you do have a blank button atm [14:23] ubuntujenkins, which version did you update to? [14:24] 2.30.3-1ubuntu2 [14:30] gnome-icon-theme is no where the same version in Lucid -> Maverick [15:26] I am currently faced with complete failure of ubuntu(10.10) at completely random moments. Most of the time every form of input completely stalls. I can't move the mouse, nothing on the keyboard work and pressing the power button has no effect what so ever. I can only reset my pc. Every now and then kernel panic occurs (15% of the times) and num-lock and caps-lock start flashing. If I'm... [15:26] ...really lucky I can restart the X-server but that only postpones the lock-up for about 15-30 min. Where could I find info about this in the logs? [15:49] jan-pieter: you are best to file a bug on that issue [15:51] jan-pieter: file the bug using the command ubuntu-bug linux and that should give the kernel devs the info they need [15:51] to at least start on the bug [15:51] OK. I'll do that [15:54] hmm the maximum is once a day but it occurs more frequently than that maybe it would be an idea to allow that? [15:55] allow? [15:55] well allow add an option [15:55] probably just irrelevant [16:00] hi everyone, im willing to test maverick [16:00] is there any gnome 3.0 milestone on it? [16:10] define: gnome 3 :P [16:11] om26er: lol, will it be released with 10.10? [16:13] kroson, if you mean gnome shell i.e. the new interface, then, no. but also maverick is not expected to update all apps to 3.0 too. [16:20] om26er: ok tks [16:21] om26er: do you recommend the using of xorg-edgers ppa? for upgrading nouveau [16:22] kroson, that ppa broke my system for several times over the last month. [16:22] om26er: so, no lol [16:22] tks [16:49] what are the hot new features in alpha 2 [16:49] due 2 release 2morrw [16:50] has alot of stuff changed from lucid to maverick ? :) [16:51] nothing much [16:51] only minor stuff [16:51] i like gimp going single window mode in next version [16:52] ahh single window gimp, then it might not be as "gimped" anymore ) [16:52] =) [16:52] kickingintender, what do you expect to change panels move to right and left ;) [16:56] kickingintender, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/ubuntu-1010-so-far-in-339-words.html [16:57] * mrsun_ finds ubuntu wonderfull, stil some hand editing to be done here and there but most stuff just works .. just like i like it without windows :) [17:04] thats easy 2 change the panels back 2 right [17:04] i have already did that === marcos_ is now known as Daekdroom [17:56] can you guys give me a daily version that is working? today's one cant boot after installation :S [17:57] it states an error right after grub [17:58] but i can boot normally in live mode! [18:35] hi all. [18:36] why on a new installation of meerkat do i still need to download 300MB [18:36] it means your iso is out of date probably [18:37] thank you but downloaded it today [18:37] there are usually tons of updates every day [18:38] ok [18:43] v0lv0_v5o [19:52] guys is there a website or something with Maverik news? o-o [19:55] Daijoubu, how about http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/maverick/alpha1 [19:56] thanks [19:57] Daijoubu, actually that link is in the channel topic as well :) [19:57] coz_ not much news in there though :) [19:58] Daijoubu, i think there is a link near the bottom for "Do you want to know more:" [19:58] Daijoubu, but its still alpha :) [19:58] I believe [20:08] so is the mane meerkat or maverick [20:09] **name [20:13] !10.10 [20:13] Maverick Meerkat is the codename for Ubuntu 10.10, due October 2010 - Maverick is Not released and Not Stable, discussion and support in #ubuntu+1 [20:58] i am running maverick on my netbook and recently my applications button on the sidebar is no longer there. any thoughts? i am unable to access anything. [20:58] i can still pull up tty terminals etc [20:59] z0rt|work: this is the netbook remix? [21:00] holstein: yes [21:00] hmmmm [21:00] can you login to gnome? [21:00] yes [21:01] i would assume an update will fix that at some point [21:01] i am updating now, hopefully it will [21:01] yeah, i wouuld try that first then [21:26] Hi [21:46] if im not afrayd of loosing any data, is it ok to try ubuntu 10.10 alfa? [21:46] dreamy_, if you're not afraid of having to reinstall, yes. [21:46] k , nice [21:46] Liking to fix broken stuff is a plus if you want alpha software :D [21:46] Daekdroom: may it bring perfomance improvments ? [21:47] dreamy_, yes, as well as performance regressions. [21:47] hmm , is this error a known one for unity : [21:47] Window manager warning: Log level 16: Could not load library [/usr/lib/mutter/plugins/libunity-mutter.so.0 (/usr/lib/mutter/plugins/libunity-mutter.so.0: undefined symbol: meta_window_is_maximized)] [21:47] Daekdroom: for this version u dont know ? it gets faster or slower? [21:48] ty for helping [21:48] dreamy_, it usually gets faster here and slower there. [21:48] faster and slower is very vague, I think my graphics performance went down on my intel 945GME since Xserver 1.8 [21:48] k [21:48] but it's fine in general [21:49] 9.10 with window maker on a 256 m pc.. gets slow :S [21:49] hey all, i couldn't see any bug yet, but is it known that gcc and cpp are having dependency wars right now and won't install/upgrade [21:50] except for some weird bug where *something* wastes about 1GiB of RAM after boot until I reboot again immediately (I suspect ureadahead reprofiling) [21:52] hi [21:53] cpp4.4 won't upgrade [21:53] boo [21:53] im having an issue with my mouse cursor, it is constantly disappearing from the screen [21:53] is this a known bug? is there a fix for it? [21:55] anyone else not able to upgrade cpp-4.4 [21:56] bcurtiswx3: I'm just updating, will check in a moment [21:56] yofel: muchas gracias [21:58] cpp-4.4: Installed: 4.4.4-6ubuntu2 [21:58] yofel bcurtiswx3 any of you have this bug? [21:58] amd64 [21:59] not here [21:59] kroson: not here, sry [21:59] x86 here, synaptics touchpad [21:59] didnt test with a normal mouse though but its a weird issue, other than that at this stage of development 10.10 is perfect for me [22:00] evening [22:02] yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/457536 [22:03] my netbook's cursor goes crazy too [22:03] er, that could be a corrupt .deb file IMO, tried to delete it so apt fetches it again? [22:04] how do I delete that specific one? [22:04] z0rt|work: its a normal notebook here, mine disappears like 2 seconds after i leave it [22:05] bcurtiswx3: the filename is mentioned on line 32, just do 'sudo rm ...' in a terminal [22:08] yofel: thats it, thanks :) [22:08] np ;) [22:24] exit [22:25] im having an issue with my mouse cursor, it is constantly disappearing from the screen [22:25] does anybody know a fix for this bug? [22:25] tks :) [22:26] holstein: after updating i am still having the same issue...no applications button on the icon panel [22:28] i am sick and tired of having to set up all the same accounts on different machines i have many yahoo, jabber and msn accounts etc, and i forget the passwords etc so end up having to change them and its really not fair cus when i have to change the passwords on the lappy the next time i boot the desktop the chat accounts wont load as i dont have the right passwords so have to change them again.... so, i have a request [22:28] please can you intergrate a way of syncing account details with ubuntu one [22:29] so that you sign into ubuntu single sign on and then sync your data with ubuntu one - this would save having to change the passwords again [22:29] what do people think? [22:32] would be awesome [22:32] DarkNemesis: alternatively you can use jabber transports [22:34] DrHalan, ma and pa cant do that easy [22:35] If ma and pa are changing passwords that often, why not put the same password on all the accounts for them? [22:45] DarkNemesis: you could just symlink .purple (or such) into the UbuntuOne dir (or Dropbox). [22:46] Say, why the heck does Maverick's Xorg treat my touchpad's middle button as a left button? [22:46] DanaG, does mavrick have a new version of gnome? [22:47] Beats me... I'm not booted into it, at the moment. [22:47] The middle button thing is a deal-breaker for me, for one thing. [22:48] DarkNemesis: no :S not yet [22:48] and gnome-shell (the new interface for 3.0) wont come with final [22:48] but they hope to have gnome 3.0 === ubuntujenkins is now known as jenkins [23:25] whoa [23:25] nautilus just crashed === jenkins is now known as ubuntujenkins === ubuntujenkins is now known as jenkins [23:29] shoot it with sereoids === jenkins is now known as ubuntujenkins === ubuntujenkins is now known as jenkins