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zkriessehello ridin and _schism_01:49
ridinhi01:50
zkriesseikt: son o' gun!01:55
iktheya :)01:55
zkriesseikt: where the hell have you been?01:55
_schism_evening zkriesse01:56
iktat the moment I'm just trying to finish up my schoolwork01:59
stlsaintwhats the best way to install skype? heck, the most successful should i say?02:52
duanedesignstlsaint: as of 10.04 it is in  the repos02:54
stlsaintduanedesign: i didnt see it, unless it was the python-skype stuff02:55
duanedesignhmm02:55
stlsaintduanedesign: or is it skysentials?02:56
duanedesignstlsaint: none of those look right :\02:56
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checkoutubuntuzkriesse: collinp: here's nUboon2Age checking out the webchat..., ZachK_04:27
duanedesignhello nUboon2Age04:28
nhandlercheckoutubuntu: You can custimize the webchat to have them automatically join a certain channel04:29
checkoutubuntuoh, even better, would that be in the url nhandler?04:29
nhandlercheckoutubuntu: Click the little wrench icon in the upper left corner04:31
checkoutubuntunhandler: okay checking now...04:31
checkoutubuntunhandler: here's my result http://tinyurl.com/irc-ubuntu-beginners04:39
nhandlercheckoutubuntu: Why not just http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-beginners04:40
checkoutubuntunhandler: that works.  didn't see you could do that.04:41
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newboon2age_Just wanted to say that with the help of many Beginner's Team folks here, i was finally able to solve my 'stuck on Plymouth boot screen' problem.  For more, see my post here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151931206:52
iktgood to hear newboon2age_ :)07:00
newboon2age_ikt: wow, what an ordeal that was.07:00
newboon2age_ikt: i think i may have broken my printing when i was trying to fix it, unfortunately.  I had been previously amazed that printing 'just worked' (even though in my case it involved a windoze print server) and i'm not sure if it was the stock cups setup that worked so well or if it was because i'd installed ebox and ebox was handling it.07:03
newboon2age_ikt: i uninstalled ebox (and other things) while i was trying to figure out what was wrong, and now my printing doesn't work.  I don't have the energy to mess w/ it much right now though...07:04
newboon2age_ikt: anyway i'll celebrate that with the help of lots of Beginners Team folks i got that crazy thing fixed.  That was a REALLY difficult problem to troubleshoot and fix, and since i'm trying to help/persuade my gf to migrate from windoze, i didn't want to expose her to the difficulty i was going through.07:07
iktthat's alright07:08
iktonce you get an understanding of it things become a lot easier07:08
iktjust like windows07:08
newboon2age_ikt: so I'm so happy that's over and it built up my confidence in being able to resolve tough Ubuntu problems.  Now I've tackled boot problems, disk problems and wireless problems, three of the more difficult ubuntu troubleshooting areas.07:09
duanedesignhello there ikt07:09
duanedesignmorning hobgoblin07:16
hobgoblinhi07:19
iktheya duanedesign :)07:22
hobgoblinnUboon2Age: hi - I see you are all fixed now - saw your thread on the forum07:24
* zkriesse going to bed08:58
newboon2age_zkriesse: nite...09:02
Anilhttp://fpaste.org/naKZ/ --> can someone pls help me troubleshoot this softlockup?09:34
Anildsf --> our own block device driver09:34
Anilwhen we do IO, we notice these errors...09:35
Anilwe're using bottom half handler as workqueue09:35
Aniland while processing something holding the spin_lock, scsi interrupts are causing softlockups09:37
Anilis someone there to help me?09:37
dazzharro11:29
dazzubuntu 10.04  - fresh install.  Has no gnome panels.  "gnome-panel --replace" fixes the issue but on reboot the same error occurs.  Been trolling forums for some time now and found similar issues, but none of the suggested solutions work.  Any thoughts?  Where/Which log would I look into for more issues?11:31
Conzeit_hey all...I'm trying to mount a NTFS drive on startup following this tutorial http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindowsfstab#fstab but I'm lost at the point where it says "sudo nano /etc/fstab" I typed that into the terminal, but what I got doesnt look like the following step12:35
dazzcan you take a screendump and show me what it is you are getting12:50
dazzcopy/paste what you do see into http://pastebin.com/ or something.12:51
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sonu_I'm recieving this error "failed to fetch: http://archive.linux.duke.edu/ubuntu/pool/main/l/language-pack-en-base/language-pack-en-base_10.04+20100422_all.deb"15:12
sonu_hello15:13
sonu_I'm recieving this error "failed to fetch: http://archive.linux.duke.edu/ubuntu/pool/main/l/language-pack-en-base/language-pack-en-base_10.04+20100422_all.deb"15:14
mohi1sonu_: what you did?? during an install?15:14
sonu_reloading synaptic package15:14
sonu_when reloading synaptic package15:15
sonu_hello mohi115:16
mohi1sonu_: the package you are trying to download is the english language base released at 22nd april and that happened during your system update??15:17
sonu_YES15:18
sonu_ya mohi1 you're right15:18
mohi1give me a secong to search for that sonu_15:19
mohi1second*15:19
sonu_the download stops at 42%15:19
mohi1awww tried downloading again?15:19
sonu_yes, i tried a direct download but it stops a 42%, no further download15:20
mohi1sonu_: I dowloaded it. Its 800kb15:21
mohi1heya shredder1215:21
shredder12hi mohi115:21
sonu_is it something to do with servers?15:22
sonu_what server you downloaded from?15:22
mohi1I dont think sonu_. I thin it works fine15:22
sonu_which one is the best15:22
mohi1may be you try after a restart sonu_15:22
sonu_i tried, same problem15:23
sonu_what server did u downld from?15:23
mohi1sonu_: you are downlaoding from official sites in synaptic right?15:23
sonu_yes15:24
sonu_i tried several severs listed, but smae problems15:24
sonu_is it a bug???15:24
mohi1starcraftman: ping15:24
mohi1sonu_: I dont think so15:25
mohi1ApOgEE__: there?15:25
starcraftmanmohi1: yes?15:25
mohi1<sonu_> I'm recieving this error "failed to fetch: http://archive.linux.duke.edu/ubuntu/pool/main/l/language-pack-en-base/language-pack-en-base_10.04+20100422_all.deb"15:25
mohi1i tried several severs listed, but smae problems15:25
mohi1starcraftman: what you think about that?15:26
sonu_right now the update is running and i can se the mentioned file stop at 42%15:26
sonu_the rest are working fine15:26
mohi1you install the other packages and try a restart and then check the download again15:26
sonu_ok15:27
starcraftmansonu_: I'd just change update servers for a time, go to System > Administration > Software Sources and just pick a new server. Sometimes there are temporary hiccups.15:27
sonu_i'll see u soon15:27
starcraftmanI just pinged server and works.15:27
sonu_bye15:27
starcraftmanAlso, have to dash a bit, lunch.15:27
mohi1see ya sonu_15:27
* mohi1 steals starcraftman's lunch15:27
starcraftmanmohi1: It is in a safe, you'll never get it :p15:28
mohi1starcraftman: look at your back. I am there :P15:28
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apparatusHas anyone here used Unigine graphic benchmark engines on Linux? If so then a little help would be appreciated.16:11
apparatusI just need to test if my graphics are working properly as the computer managed to crash when trying to run Heroes of Newerth.16:12
duanedesignhello apparatus16:18
apparatusHello-hello. :p16:19
apparatusPerhaps someone could just suggest a graphics benchmark/test for Ubuntu that would be more intensive than glxgears? Thanks in advance.16:20
duanedesignapparatus: i remember a few years ago someone tried to get a wiki page started to compare graphics and create a 'quasi-standard'16:27
duanedesignhttp://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34863416:27
apparatusOkay, thanks, I'll see what I can achieve.16:29
iceflatlineapparatus: you might want to check out the site www.phoronix.com. they do quite a bit of benchmarking.16:31
duanedesigniceflatline: good point16:34
duanedesignapparatus: there is a phronix test suite16:34
kaushalHi16:43
duanedesignhi kaushal16:45
kaushalI am running a Ubuntu generic kernel on all the hosts running 8.04 server. is there a way to install server kernel on this host ?We have found a bug on the automated install16:46
kaushalPlease suggest/guide16:46
duanedesignkaushal: you wish to reinstall the kernel on an install of Ubuntu Server?16:48
apparatusThe Phoronix Test Suite just refuses to start. I click on it, "Starting Phoronix..." appears on the lower bar and then disappears, that's it.16:49
zkriessehey hobgoblin17:01
zkriessehello guerd8717:01
iceflatlineapparatus: I'm afraid I can't be much help. Perhaps others here may be more familiar with the suite.17:09
apparatusI guess I'll just download a random shooter and see if it runs since the final goal is to find out if Heroes of Newerth crashes because of my hardware not meeting the specs or because of a malfunction.17:15
iceflatlineapparatus: let me know which one you end up using.17:31
apparatusWarsow was the one.17:32
apparatusIt ran, and also..after dragging the graphic settings down on Newerth it worked..so I guess that instead of lagging at high settings it just crashed.17:32
ibuclawapparatus, Sauerbraten was made for light hardware systems. =)17:44
apparatusYou mean this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauerbraten17:45
apparatus: D17:45
apparatusWarsow ran just fine, it's Heroes of Newerth that required lower settings.17:46
apparatusI think I'm gonna install Warcraft 3 via wine though.17:46
apparatusJudged by the trailer Sauerbraten is like quake. I'll check it out tho. Thanks for mentioning it.17:48
_CommandeR_hm18:21
_CommandeR_ping hobgoblin19:34
hobgoblinpong19:34
_CommandeR_:)19:34
_CommandeR_still no answer about wubi post :/19:34
ridinwhat wubi post19:35
_CommandeR_http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9522206#post952220619:35
hobgoblin_CommandeR_: see pm19:36
actiniumso i'm having trouble installing ubuntu on my new pc20:18
actiniumthe normal install cd would just go black, so i tried the alternate cd and it doesnt recognize my HD20:18
actiniumguess i'll ask again later20:48
Joss_hello all21:08
Joss_Someone can help me ?21:08
Joss_pleasez21:08
drubinJoss_: depends are you going to tell us what you need help with?21:10
drubinguess we can't ask people what they need help with21:11
_CommandeR_HEHE21:11
_CommandeR_hehe*21:11
bobo123is it possible to see if small stupid things is planned to be fixed for next version of ubuntu? like that there are two different commands for safely remove an usb-memory (and only one of them works, the other one gives an error message wrongly) ?21:35
bobo123in the file manager I mean21:36
_CommandeR_dunno21:36
_CommandeR_maybe it will be fixed before nex version eh?21:37
holsteinbobo123: you might be interested in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaperCut21:37
_CommandeR_also i think they have bigger bugs on their minds21:37
bobo123ah..21:38
zkriessehello team21:45
zkriessehow goes the war?21:45
bobo123zkriesse:  what war? vi vs. emacs?21:48
zkriessethe war against no knowledge21:50
zkriessewe live to educate!21:50
drubinbobo123: Actually links no working should be bug against nautilus.22:02
drubinbobo123: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ because both my links work on Lucid. so it is bug22:02
bobo123links?22:03
drubinbobo123: both menu options;22:04
bobo123aha you mena the two commands. I don't know what they is called in english though. "Koppla säkert från enhet" and "Mata ut" in the "Arkiv" menu in swedish22:04
bobo123I assume the menu is called "File" in english, and they probably is "safely eject unit" and "eject"22:05
drubinbobo123: In english it is un mount, and safely eject22:06
drubinmmm but Lucid doesn't seem to have it. only karmic22:06
bobo123what am I using... (I really really don't like the names becaus I canä't remember them)... lets see... Ubuntu 10.04 LTS  - Lucid Lynx22:07
bobo123only some usb-disks seems to have both commands? my usb-harddisk only have the 'safely' one but the normal usb-memories and the camera have both22:09
bobo123and is seems to be only when I use the command frmo the 'Arkiv' (File) -menu that it itsn't working. if I use it from rightclick instead, it works.22:11
bobo123btw, do "mount" mean anything (that is logical for a user that don't know the linux term) in english?22:13
DarkNemesisis there a way of saving account details to ubuntu one so that one can transfer all your accounts (yahoo, hotmail,gmail icq... irc... jabber.. everything) to the new machine (web book / lappy 2nd desktop) via ubuntu one? like syncing account details, and passwords if not would any one build this as it would  be good and improve ubuntu22:34
zkriesseDarkNemesis: ah i'm sure there is an account folder for that which you could save to a usb drive22:38
zkriesseone sec i'll lookk22:39
DarkNemesiszkriesse, i mean using ubuntu one22:39
zkriesseDarkNemesis: oh22:40
zkriesseDarkNemesis: then i've no idea22:40
zkriessei'm sure you could upload the info and then pull it22:40
DarkNemesiszkriesse, so ma and pa can do it via signing into single aign on22:40
DarkNemesisso it's constantly synced22:40
mohi1duanedesign: ping22:40
DarkNemesismohil pong22:40
mohi1DarkNemesis: I was calling duanedesign to help ya :D22:42
DarkNemesismohil ahhhh :D22:43
DarkNemesisits more a development idea22:43
mohi1and my nick is mohi'one' :(22:43
DarkNemesismy client cant handle it22:43
DarkNemesisthe ' is an invalid expression22:43
mohi1aww mohi1 1= 'one' DarkNemesis :'(22:44
DarkNemesisohhh mohi122:45
mohi1yep22:45
duanedesignhello mohi122:55
* duanedesign reading scrollback22:55
* mohi1 makes duanedesign to find the word Ubuntu One22:55
duanedesignDarkNemesis: there is a program called stipple that is working on backing up .dot files22:56
DarkNemesisduanedesign, possible to build it into ubuntu one?22:57
duanedesignDarkNemesis: you currently cant sync files in your $HOME, but you can sync folders22:58
duanedesignso if  the info is in a directory in your home folder you can sync it22:58
DarkNemesisalso what if you encrypt your home dir? you wouldnt be able to use these files in anouther machine22:59
duanedesignDarkNemesis: alot of programs are starting to use CouchDB to sync program settings across multiple computers via ubuntu one22:59
nhandlerDarkNemesis: I think there is a way to decrypt them on another machine (depending on how they are encrypted)23:00
* DarkNemesis would like a ma and pa solution :D single sign on is awesome for that23:01
duanedesignthere is also work being done on OneConf https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneConf23:06
Math932903I am following this thread to solve a problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=973637 and I can't find System > Preferences > Sound or Session, is that normal?23:39
Math932903I am using Ubuntu 10.0423:39
zkriesseMath932903: sound?23:39
Math932903zkriesse: yup23:41
zkriesseSystem -> Preferences -> Sound23:41
zkriesseshould be there23:41
Math932903zkriesse: that's right, it's not. I find it strange too23:41
zkriessehmm23:42
zkriesseweird23:42
Math932903zkriesse: I have Volume Control23:42
zkriesseok23:42
Math932903but I can't set anything to autodetect in there23:43
zkriesseMath932903: click on your volume icon in status bar and choose sound preferences23:43
Math932903zkriesse: I don't have a volume icon either!23:45
zkriessedamn23:45
zkriesseok hold on23:45
Math932903zkriesse: I must be missing a package or something but try googling "sound preferences"!!23:46
zkriesseMath932903: hmm23:59
zkriesseMath932903: one minute..or two23:59
Math932903zkriesse: I'm still looking as well23:59

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